Session Start: Mon Dec 30 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:01] <inkpen> hell my monitor isnt even configure properly in my device manager
[00:01] <islander> thank the guy in the lower left
[00:01] <inkpen> gates
[00:01] <scooby-atwork> LOL
[00:02] <inkpen> i need a new computer
[00:03] <islander> just a reload
[00:03] <inkpen> whos that guy in the lower right?
[00:03] <scooby-atwork> jobs?
[00:03] <inkpen> i though he looks like the co founder of apple
[00:04] <inkpen> i dont think jobs
[00:04] <scooby-atwork> wozniak?
[00:04] <scooby-atwork> paul Allen?
[00:04] <islander> maybe, but the caption in the main picture?
[00:05] <inkpen> is the guy on the top right jobs?
[00:05] <scooby-atwork> not sure, really
[00:05] <islander> checking....
[00:05] <inkpen> bill screwed him lol
[00:08] <inkpen> drama
[00:08] <scooby-atwork> nite boyz
[00:08] <inkpen> gnight
[00:08] <inkpen> nite
[00:08] <islander> gnite scoob
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[00:09] <scooby-atwork> see ya l8r...  maybe when i get home
[00:09] <inkpen> heh ya
[00:09] <scooby-atwork> hi vamp
[00:09] <inkpen> hi vam
[00:09] <scooby-atwork> LOL
[00:09] * vamp is now known as Jurian
[00:09] <Jurian> sup
[00:09] <islander> haha
[00:09] <scooby-atwork> Jurian: posing as NancyL?
[00:09] <inkpen> you know impersonating a irc op isnt a smart thing to do
[00:10] <Jurian> its ok
[00:10] <inkpen> vamp
[00:10] <Jurian> after a week
[00:10] <Jurian> they unban you
[00:10] <Jurian> i've been banished
[00:10] <Jurian> like 3 times
[00:10] <Jurian> for it alreayd
[00:10] <Jurian> :P
[00:10] <Jurian> wont resist
[00:10] <scooby-atwork> NancyL@ool-4354a831.dyn.optonline.net
[00:10] <scooby-atwork> buh bye
[00:10] <Jurian> that too
[00:10] <Jurian> www.thecoremovie.com
[00:10] * Jurian was kicked by inkpen (dont impersonate)
[00:11] <scooby-atwork> thank you...
[00:11] <scooby-atwork> now i can go
[00:11] <inkpen> heh
[00:11] <scooby-atwork> buh bye!
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[00:11] <islander> ink on pic.....jobs has dark, guy lower right has light but attached to logo?
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[00:11] <JuRRRAhian> kicking me out
[00:11] <JuRRRAhian> thats a classic
[00:11] * inkpen sighs
[00:11] <JuRRRAhian> loLolOloLOOl
[00:11] * inkpen sets mode: +b *!*@ool-4354a831.dyn.optonline.net
[00:11] * JuRRRAhian was kicked by inkpen (immature)
[00:12] <inkpen> ya... i thought the guy at the top right matched jobs and the apple guy his origenal counterpart
[00:13] <islander> lower right was ex ms pres that left last year?
[00:13] <inkpen> billy
[00:14] <inkpen> yep
[00:14] <inkpen> still richest guy
[00:14] <islander> i'm horrible at names, don't get into the who's who of persons dipping into my pocket
[00:15] <islander> just hate payng for the upgrade
[00:15] <inkpen> the guy who 'opened fire with an AK 47  in a walmart' i think hes jobs
[00:15] <inkpen> lol
[00:16] <islander> didn't remember that caption in the press
[00:16] <inkpen> http://2trak.com/go-today.jpg
[00:16] <inkpen> if i were jobs id prolly go nuts :)
[00:17] <islander> resatate, i read it on the picture , but was it an event?
[00:17] <inkpen> prolly a joke :)
[00:18] <islander> probably
[00:18] <inkpen> heh
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[00:18] <rduke> Hello
[00:18] <inkpen> hi
[00:19] <rduke> hows the world
[00:19] * inkpen sets mode: -b *!*@ool-4354a831.dyn.optonline.net
[00:19] <inkpen> it will be taken off tommarow any ways
[00:20] <rduke> what will?
[00:20] <inkpen> taht ban
[00:20] <rduke> ahhh ok
[00:20] <rduke> what would you like to discuss?
[00:21] <inkpen> weather...brrr chille here
[00:21] <rduke> where?
[00:21] <inkpen> here
[00:21] <inkpen> victoria bc
[00:21] <rduke> yeah its brrr here
[00:21] <inkpen> where do you live?
[00:21] <rduke> Wisconsin
[00:21] <inkpen> ah
[00:21] <rduke> but we have only had one snow
[00:21] <rduke> ........this is Wisconsin
[00:22] <rduke> we are usually knee deep by now....
[00:22] <rduke> nothing
[00:22] <inkpen> there has been no snow here although its been like minus 1 overnites
[00:22] <rduke> which is another great way to bring up the shift in a conversation
[00:22] <inkpen> indeed
[00:22] <rduke> yikes
[00:22] <rduke> stay inside...
[00:22] <rduke> pack a bowl
[00:22] <inkpen> http://2trak.com/go-today.jpg
[00:22] <rduke> watch some movies
[00:22] <inkpen> heh
[00:22] <rduke> wait it out...
[00:23] <rduke> might as well get used to that
[00:23] <islander> it was snowing 20 miles north of inkpen about 2 hours ago
[00:23] <inkpen> untill the power goes out
[00:23] <rduke> I think we will have to stay low.....
[00:23] <rduke> conserve energy
[00:23] <inkpen> wow i have a city or town named after me ?
[00:23] <islander> no... where you live
[00:24] <inkpen> van island
[00:24] <inkpen> u
[00:24] <islander> yes
[00:24] <inkpen> ?
[00:24] <islander> in vic
[00:24] <inkpen> REALLY??!!
[00:24] <rduke> nice
[00:24] <islander> yes
[00:24] <rduke> lol
[00:24] <inkpen> wow
[00:24] <rduke> I am comming out there as well
[00:24] <rduke> not that far ...
[00:24] <inkpen> now i see the connection to the nick :)
[00:24] <islander> land of the big box in the west
[00:24] <inkpen> heh...
[00:25] <inkpen> how old are u?
[00:25] <islander> amost 50
[00:25] <rduke> 25
[00:25] <inkpen> mmm
[00:25] <inkpen> thats three so far who live here
[00:26] <inkpen> including myself
[00:26] <islander> rduke: have you made many connections yet
[00:26] <rduke> no
[00:26] <rduke> I have friends scattered around
[00:27] <islander> how about plans or is it wait and see?
[00:27] <rduke> ohh
[00:27] <rduke> I have plans
[00:27] <rduke> all kinds of plans
[00:27] <islander> good
[00:27] <rduke> I would love to go to canada now
[00:27] <rduke> but I dont feel like giving up my AK
[00:27] <rduke> I think it is a Valuable tool to have
[00:28] <rduke> just to keep away Vultures that are sure to be let loose
[00:28] <islander> i think a quieter approach is better, less attention
[00:28] <rduke> true
[00:28] <rduke> thats the plan
[00:28] <rduke> I am not planning Rambo missions
[00:28] <rduke> lol
[00:29] <rduke> I am planning going out to where no men have been in years
[00:29] <inkpen> islander...what was your name...perhaps we may have met?
[00:29] <islander> thats too much sfx for me
[00:29] <islander> ink: chris
[00:29] <rduke> sfx?
[00:29] <inkpen> mmm
[00:29] <inkpen> im dave
[00:29] <islander> special effects
[00:30] <rduke> yeah....you are also not where I am at the moment.....lol
[00:30] <inkpen> but i know only one other chris and hes not 50
[00:30] <inkpen> too bad
[00:30] <islander> its a big world out there
[00:30] <rduke> yes indeed
[00:30] <rduke> and very crowded down here
[00:31] <rduke> its nice that I have a huge strech of nothing and Train Tracks headed north
[00:31] <rduke> Trees and Bluffs
[00:31] <rduke> and Valleys
[00:32] <inkpen> nice
[00:32] <rduke> yeah....its going to be a big timing thing
[00:32] <rduke> as I would like to use a vehicle to travel as far as I can.....
[00:33] <rduke> we will prob drive out to Idaho...
[00:33] <rduke> The Northen Highways in the states are pretty obscure....
[00:33] <islander> validation still plays a part, is taht one of your timing issues
[00:33] <rduke> no....
[00:33] <rduke> as I belive it more and more each day........I feel it
[00:33] <rduke> I cant say that I dont Want it either
[00:34] <rduke> so perhaps it is conflicted
[00:34] <rduke> but that is ok....
[00:34] <rduke> Because what will be in store for us if the event does not happen .......
[00:34] <islander> there is no certainties to life anyways
[00:34] <rduke> well thats a reality that I cant live in anymore
[00:34] <rduke> true
[00:35] <rduke> thats what makes it fun
[00:35] <rduke> so either way I am headed out to Nature.......
[00:35] <rduke> Come Nibiru or not.......
[00:35] <inkpen> yep
[00:35] <islander> it almost makes evey day more challenging an enjoyable
[00:35] <rduke> Yes....
[00:36] <rduke> I will tell you.....for some to grasp the concept of what could happen is too much.........well I say
[00:36] <rduke> if thats all they took out of it ....
[00:36] <rduke> the fear
[00:36] <rduke> then they did not do the correct thing
[00:36] <rduke> fear is a teacher.........
[00:36] <rduke> because when you see it....
[00:37] <rduke> its not scary at all
[00:37] <inkpen> fear is a mind killer
[00:37] <rduke> or focuser
[00:37] <inkpen> it holds us back from our potenial
[00:37] <rduke> if you let it
[00:37] <rduke> if your scared of it........
[00:38] <rduke> Fear is our ally
[00:38] <rduke> We cant ignore it.....
[00:38] <rduke> or it will
[00:38] <rduke> incapacitate
[00:38] <rduke> and rot
[00:39] <rduke> I say accept it.....
[00:39] <rduke> and it goes away.....
[00:39] <inkpen> i guess that is a matter of opinion... i dont ignore fea..when confronted with it i clear my mind and find a practical solution
[00:40] <rduke> that is because you approach it as an ally
[00:40] <rduke> most of people dont confront fear.........
[00:40] <inkpen> as an indicator u mean?
[00:40] <rduke> because they feel all alone......
[00:40] <rduke> no as a Teacher......
[00:40] <rduke> its a lession to jog our memeories
[00:41] <rduke> Collectivly.......
[00:41] <rduke> Imo the monkey.........ring any bells?
[00:42] <rduke> ok now we are leaving the issue of fear........for a sec
[00:42] <islander> yes
[00:42] <rduke> you know of Imo then...
[00:42] <inkpen> in my opinion
[00:43] <islander> fom sci.astro
[00:43] <rduke> no
[00:43] <rduke> a real Monkey
[00:43] <inkpen> oh that guy?
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[00:43] <rduke> no guy....a female monkey that lives on some islands near japan
[00:43] <inkpen> why not turtle?
[00:43] <yggdrasil> liars
[00:43] <rduke> well about 25 years ago....
[00:44] <inkpen> hi yggdrasil
[00:44] <rduke> would you like to hear about it...it is highly interesting........IMO
[00:44] <yggdrasil> herro
[00:44] <inkpen> ok
[00:44] <rduke> ok .........
[00:45] <rduke> Imo....(the monkey) was the first of her kind to wash the sweet potatoes that researchers would leave on a beach  for them in the ocean .....
[00:46] <rduke> The researchers figured out that she must of not liked to eat grains of sand
[00:46] <rduke> which is pretty smart .....considering teeth...
[00:46] <rduke> well a funny thing happend.....but not somthing unheard of.....
[00:46] <rduke> The younger monkeys also would start to wash their potatoes
[00:47] <rduke> ....untill now...all the monkeys on that island wash their potatos
[00:47] <rduke> but thats not it....
[00:47] <rduke> becuase ready
[00:48] <rduke> The island that Imo was on is not the only island inhabited by monkeys....
[00:48] <rduke> there are others
[00:48] <rduke> They too now wash theirs................
[00:48] <rduke> no contact
[00:48] <rduke> pure collective concience at work.........
[00:48] <yggdrasil> i think chimps on the island of doctor maurou now washes thier potatoes too
[00:49] <inkpen> other monkeys mabey thought of that too...grains of sand= yuk
[00:49] <rduke> yeah ........but none washed theirs before imo
[00:49] <inkpen> but an interesting story
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[00:49] <inkpen> hmm
[00:49] <inkpen> hi m away
[00:49] <rduke> in fact it was highly documented how the elder monkeys would not do it
[00:49] * M-AWAY is now known as M
[00:50] <M> hello all?
[00:50] <rduke> hello
[00:50] <yggdrasil> liar
[00:50] <inkpen> hia
[00:50] <yggdrasil> im interested in watching a new show on science channel
[00:50] <inkpen> why do you call people liars yggdrasil?
[00:50] <M> what did i walk into?
[00:51] <yggdrasil> it describves what current animals could evolve into
[00:51] <yggdrasil> cuz im dumb forgive me
[00:51] <yggdrasil> its my internet turrets syndrome
[00:51] <inkpen> ok...lol
[00:51] <M> location check   where is every1 from?
[00:51] <yggdrasil> maybe the older monkeys thought sand was good
[00:51] <rduke> they have a foundation for that??
[00:52] <islander> rduke: was it the grain of sand avoidance as concurred by the scientists or the discovery of salted potatos?
[00:52] <inkpen> vancover island
[00:52] <islander> same
[00:52] <inkpen> u?
[00:52] <M> hawaii
[00:52] <inkpen> nice
[00:52] <rduke> interesting idea....I thought that as well
[00:52] <yggdrasil> im tring to pop a pimple
[00:52] <inkpen> which one?
[00:52] <rduke> as the salt would make them taste better
[00:52] <rduke> and washing them off would be more comfortable to eat
[00:52] <yggdrasil> maybe they thought it was like caviar
[00:52] <yggdrasil> kinda stays in the mouth afterward
[00:53] <rduke> Well they live almost 40 years....
[00:53] <rduke> and like humans by a few years old they are pretty set in their ways
[00:53] <yggdrasil> well could a monkey figure otu how to heat a vw van?
[00:53] <yggdrasil> i dont think so
[00:53] <M> well im out dont think i know any of you all
[00:54] <M> except ink
[00:54] <yggdrasil> um
[00:54] <inkpen> seeya later
[00:54] <rduke> thats all the more reason to stay
[00:54] <yggdrasil> nice nick
[00:54] <inkpen> m
[00:54] <M> see ya ink
[00:55] <rduke> ok....
[00:55] <M>        ~~*      Oo      O
[00:55] <inkpen> im a getin tired
[00:55] <rduke> how bout this.....
[00:55] <inkpen> lol
[00:55] <rduke> Animals and intoxicants
[00:56] <inkpen> heh
[00:56] <rduke> they do do them
[00:56] <inkpen> incognito time
[00:56] * M is now known as M-AWAY
[00:56] <islander> catch you later ink
[00:56] <yggdrasil> liar
[00:56] <inkpen> seeya
[00:56] <rduke> later
[00:57] * inkpen is now known as Q
[00:57] <yggdrasil> thats the name i was thinkgi of too
[00:57] <rduke> Q
[00:57] <Q> kewl
[00:58] <rduke> Q is cool.........kinda like a sadistic Don Juan.........
[00:58] <Q> mabey ill use Q from now on
[00:58] <Q> hehe
[00:58] <islander> any ideas q, like tips...?
[00:58] <Q> man its windy out
[00:58] <Q> on what?
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[00:59] <Q> wb scoob
[00:59] <scooby> : )
[00:59] * M-AWAY has quit IRC
[00:59] <Q> im a teasure trove of info
[00:59] <scooby> gonna go grab some dinner
[00:59] <Q> good thinken
[00:59] <scooby> so is this your other evil twin inky?
[00:59] <Q> nah
[00:59] <Q> i got rid o him awile back
[01:00] <islander> q: must be near the water?
[01:00] <Q> saanich
[01:00] <rduke> you know......
[01:00] <islander> close to the snow then
[01:00] <scooby> that character is in #zetatalk
[01:00] <rduke> a huge Sunami would be an awesome site to see
[01:00] <scooby> posing as NancyL
[01:00] <Q> actually no, im anticipating it if it reaches -1 again though
[01:00] <scooby> who is that?
[01:01] <Q> VAMP
[01:01] <scooby> User 4 NancyL[ool-4354a831.dyn.optonline.net
[01:01] <scooby> i know...  who is vamp
[01:01] <rduke> I'd buy that for a dollar
[01:01] <scooby> brb
[01:01] <islander> north wind blowing?
[01:01] <rduke> thats -1 c?
[01:01] <islander> hi scoob
[01:01] <Q> not sure not out side yet
[01:02] <Q> will be shortly for a looksy
[01:02] <islander> rduke yes its that bilingual canadian stuff
[01:02] <islander> even in science c=1.8f
[01:02] <rduke> ok now I know....
[01:02] <rduke> cold
[01:03] <rduke> but I keep that for future reference
[01:03] <rduke> so when he says -20
[01:03] <islander> double digit c is cold,
[01:03] <rduke> I know...
[01:03] <rduke> yeah...very
[01:04] <rduke> but I still would rather have that kind of winter then the one we have......Damp and Grey
[01:04] <Q> brb
[01:04] <rduke> wet cold .....bleaghh
[01:05] <rduke> I like the nice mountain cold better
[01:05] <rduke> if more fun to be out in
[01:06] <rduke> and at least the sun is out somtimes
[01:06] <islander> on the coast damp and grey and 100 percent humidity is normal, penetrates all clothing
[01:06] <rduke> ....see
[01:06] <islander> makes a sunny day feel really good
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[01:07] <obany> hi
[01:07] <rduke> I hear you have great summers there though
[01:07] <rduke> hi
[01:07] <islander> hi o
[01:07] <obany> i kicked him .. just now .... rduke... and i warned Jurian about him
[01:07] <obany> because vamp got g-lined for some tie .
[01:07] <obany> woop i mean Q
[01:07] <obany> time
[01:08] <rduke> and if all pans out then your climate will be really nice
[01:08] <islander> hard to really judge yet, depends on where it all ends up
[01:08] <rduke> true.......
[01:10] <rduke> so anyone seeing panic in goverentment yet....lol
[01:11] <rduke> .
[01:11] <islander> i would call it unexplained behavior
[01:11] <rduke> lol
[01:11] <islander> but that is normal poilitics here
[01:11] <Q> hia obany
[01:12] <rduke> well we have had a bunch of people leave here in the states...
[01:12] <Q> vamp ticks my fiddle
[01:12] <rduke> all to spend more time with family
[01:12] <Q> he impersonated juria in here
[01:12] <rduke> there has been a bunch....
[01:13] <Q> any one seen 007 today?
[01:14] <Q> i need to show him my newest gadget
[01:15] <Q> hey wait... im supposed to be dead!
[01:15] * Q is now known as inkpen
[01:15] <islander> how does it feel?
[01:16] <inkpen> islander are you considering moving off the island for the shift?
[01:16] <islander> not yet, looking at other possibilities
[01:17] <rduke> how high are they?
[01:17] <islander> pop areas 100 metres and less onn average
[01:17] <islander> hills up to 2000
[01:17] <inkpen> really? what area you in?
[01:18] <islander> langford
[01:18] <islander> loking at mid island
[01:18] <islander> for the high hill
[01:18] <inkpen> i wouldnt want to be in langford going into the shift :)
[01:19] <islander> or the peninsula
[01:19] <inkpen> true
[01:20] <islander> are you planning to vacate or just man the life boats
[01:20] <inkpen> but im more concerned about agriculture here... and that there are allot of sts's here
[01:20] <inkpen> im still not sure yet...getting closer to a possible solution...there are lots of things to consider
[01:21] <islander> sea farming for that area, start planting kelp beds?
[01:21] <inkpen> mmm a possibility
[01:21] <islander> on the top of dean park?
[01:21] <inkpen> wheres that?
[01:22] <islander> middle of the peninsula
[01:22] <inkpen> oh ok
[01:22] <inkpen> crazy winds tonite
[01:22] <islander> there are sts everwhere
[01:22] <islander> no wind here
[01:23] <inkpen> really...what part of lang u in?
[01:23] <inkpen> id think id would be more windy there
[01:23] <islander> 1 k from the log house pub
[01:24] <inkpen> wow...i used to live near there
[01:24] <inkpen> close to the highlands
[01:24] <inkpen> ?
[01:24] <islander> that it is
[01:25] <inkpen> kewl
[01:25] <islander> rd: getting any cold north winds from the great white north?
[01:26] <rduke> not really
[01:27] <rduke> but we did have a Thunder stom on the 18th of December
[01:27] <rduke> if thats not WIERD
[01:27] <islander> is that normal?
[01:27] <rduke> Winter Thunder storms....Well I am not a local here ....but I have never heard of them
[01:28] <rduke> I am from ny
[01:28] <rduke> originaly
[01:28] <rduke> and the thunder was pretty heavy......
[01:28] <rduke> it was really odd...
[01:29] <rduke> I thouhgt anyway....but I am sure most of the ppl around here have forgotten.....
[01:30] <islander> did that tie in with the extremes in temperature?
[01:30] <rduke> no it was cold, grey and wet.....
[01:30] <islander> all day?
[01:30] <rduke> and it was at night
[01:31] <rduke> lol....hold on...Don rumsfeld is a fool......
[01:31] <rduke> here listen to this.......
[01:32] <rduke> damn I lost it...
[01:32] <inkpen> <islander> that it is
[01:32] <inkpen> <
[01:32] <inkpen> oopps
[01:33] <inkpen> sorry bout that
[01:33] <islander> we're not allowed to call your politicians names...
[01:33] <rduke> lol
[01:33] <inkpen> lol
[01:33] <rduke> yes you are
[01:33] <inkpen> yay!
[01:33] <rduke> their not mine
[01:33] <islander> not to keep jobs
[01:33] <rduke> their ...."THEM"
[01:33] <rduke> or THEY
[01:34] <inkpen> or it
[01:34] <rduke> and their not on our side.....
[01:34] <rduke> any of them
[01:34] <inkpen> they look out foe #1
[01:34] <islander> got it
[01:35] <rduke> Well we all do......they just have no qualms about how they do it
[01:35] <inkpen> man 0140 hours already
[01:35] <islander> interesting slip ink
[01:35] <islander> foe?
[01:35] <inkpen> lol
[01:35] <inkpen> foe-for
[01:35] <inkpen> typo
[01:35] <rduke> lol
[01:35] <islander> i know ...its getting late
[01:36] <rduke> it worked
[01:36] <inkpen> true enough :)
[01:37] <rduke> Man Lieberman is Scary
[01:37] <rduke> thats some choice huh
[01:37] <rduke> Lieberman or Bush....
[01:37] <inkpen> dos.....c:\dos....c:\dos\run....run\dos\run  
[01:38] <inkpen> thats my little blip for the evening
[01:39] <rduke> lol
[01:39] <islander> thank you i
[01:39] <inkpen> heheh
[01:39] <rduke> 780,000 jobless are not getting AID anymore because Congress did not extend the benifits........
[01:40] <rduke> lol
[01:40] <rduke> here we go
[01:40] <rduke> they are not wasteing anything
[01:40] <rduke> hoarders
[01:40] <rduke> they have all the money in the world to secure resources and murder....not to mention building space stations
[01:41] <islander> things that make you go hmmmmmmm...
[01:41] <rduke> thats just going to drag the economy down further
[01:41] <rduke> which will pull down production
[01:41] <rduke> which will mean less in the stores and warehouses
[01:41] <rduke> which will mean people will starve faster
[01:41] <rduke> if they just let us ride it out
[01:42] <rduke> I am getting my skate board.........
[01:42] <rduke> Cause I feel fine....
[01:42] <inkpen> thats theyre plan: the common poeple should die lest they come after the super rich
[01:42] <islander> like a roller coaster, watch out big cuve ahead
[01:43] <rduke> now I see it though.....its one thing to speculate...and another to have it materialize
[01:43] <rduke> just a reality check
[01:43] <rduke> lol
[01:43] <inkpen> heh
[01:44] <inkpen> not a very pleasant reality
[01:44] <rduke> and to think how many have no clue......
[01:44] <rduke> at least its real........
[01:44] <rduke> and not hollywashed/Friends World
[01:44] <inkpen> true...no wishy washy snow flaked life for me thank you
[01:45] <inkpen> ignorance is bliss
[01:45] <rduke> as if....
[01:45] <rduke> not for me.......
[01:45] <inkpen> but its ignorant
[01:45] <rduke> I must find the precious
[01:45] <inkpen> ignorance is not understanding...my opposite goal
[01:46] <rduke> the precious?
[01:47] <rduke> would you like to hear another ODD thing?
[01:48] <islander> sure
[01:48] <rduke> been to the movies recently?
[01:48] <inkpen> rduke are you looking for that precious ring that was stolen from you?
[01:48] <rduke> YOU HAVE THE PRECIOUS
[01:48] <rduke> !!!
[01:48] <rduke> lol
[01:48] <rduke> they did a good job with that
[01:49] <rduke> but have you been to the movies recently?
[01:49] <islander> once
[01:49] <rduke> ok...
[01:49] <rduke> did you notice the previews?
[01:49] <rduke> was there anything odd about them?>
[01:49] <inkpen> thoses hobitz is false tricksy liarz they are my precousssss
[01:50] <rduke> lol
[01:50] <inkpen> lol
[01:50] <rduke> nice
[01:50] <rduke> so notice anything  odd about the previews?
[01:50] <inkpen> good new movie
[01:51] <inkpen> car comercials?
[01:51] <islander> wasn't watching the screen that much
[01:51] <islander> what did you notice?
[01:51] <rduke> like for anything comming out in 2003 there is not one frame of film to be seen
[01:51] <rduke> sure there were a few movies....
[01:51] <rduke> that were made
[01:52] <rduke> but  the rest were just nothing......even the Terminator 3 movie....
[01:52] <rduke> all it has is some lame screens and a totally cheesy tralier...
[01:52] <rduke> its like they are not even working on anything
[01:52] <islander> q is, how fast will recent movies make it to vid and dvd, does the rate accelerate?
[01:52] <rduke> yes absolutly
[01:53] <rduke> make as much as you can.......
[01:53] <inkpen> havent noticed
[01:53] <rduke> its like the movie the core....
[01:53] <rduke> its not out yet
[01:53] <rduke> but it was filmed years ago
[01:53] <rduke> wtf is the hold up
[01:53] <rduke> lol
[01:55] <islander> the best never make the screen, when was the last documentary in a theatre?
[01:55] <rduke> ....
[01:55] <rduke> there has been a few....
[01:55] <rduke> if you are in the art centers of the country
[01:55] <rduke> like ny and such
[01:56] <islander> which subjects?
[01:56] <rduke> music, skateboarding, just off the top of my head....Scratch and Dog Town and Z boys
[01:56] <rduke> which one of is a video now
[01:57] <rduke> but your right....
[01:57] <rduke> No one wants to know they are learning....
[01:57] <islander> its all about sales in the first weekend now
[01:58] <islander> who beat who and whos number one
[01:58] <rduke> Documentarys are my favorite thing to watch....because I dont have to put up with lame storys and hack actors
[01:59] <islander> as long as there is two points of view or some objectivity
[01:59] <rduke> Well yes....as long as its fair.......
[02:00] <inkpen> hi magnetos
[02:00] <rduke> Remember all those Dubunker shows that used to be on tv in the late 89's early 90's
[02:00] <inkpen> opps...i accidentally scrooled up
[02:00] <inkpen> lol
[02:00] <inkpen> saw other stuff
[02:01] <rduke> where they would act like they had proof
[02:01] <rduke> but would just wind up debunking it and casting doubt....
[02:01] <rduke> most times it was clearly fraud....
[02:01] <islander> imagine the lengths of distraction now, would you watch naked news because the news seems nicer or believe it or not because it was unbelievable?
[02:02] <rduke> I dont watch TV anymore......
[02:02] <rduke> I killed it
[02:02] <islander> good step, i also cancelled the paper
[02:03] <rduke> yeah ....papers piss me off....they really build up fast
[02:03] <islander> besides, no sense paying for it when its free on the net
[02:03] <rduke> next thing you know your living in piles of papers.......
[02:03] <rduke> which is mostly adds for total garbage
[02:04] <rduke> SALE
[02:04] <rduke> SALE
[02:04] <rduke> SALE
[02:04] <islander> good for packing the boxes though
[02:04] <rduke> CONSUME
[02:04] <rduke> lol
[02:04] <rduke> or keeping warm
[02:04] <inkpen> heh
[02:05] <rduke> fuel
[02:05] <rduke> I am carrieng my fuel in the form of wax
[02:05] <islander> or a thousand other uses, too bad you couldn't just order it without the ink, like a burger, hold the ketchup
[02:05] <rduke> lol yes....
[02:05] <islander> good choice
[02:06] <rduke> yeah....I burn those wax discs for the smell
[02:06] <islander> a can be replenished
[02:06] <rduke> but after a few times you are left with all this wax...
[02:06] <islander> a=and
[02:07] <rduke> so I have been pouring it into pasta sauce jars
[02:07] <rduke> I have 4 of them....
[02:07] <rduke> and it is still going
[02:07] <rduke> lol
[02:07] <islander> how you explored how too make your own? sources
[02:07] <rduke> a little wax can go a long way too
[02:07] <rduke> honey bees is my first choice....
[02:08] <rduke> but I know that they have been getting wiped out these past two years
[02:08] <islander> do some research on bayberry
[02:08] <rduke> bay berry....
[02:08] <rduke> ok
[02:08] <rduke> I do like that smell
[02:08] <islander> other source was whales before the petro companies took over
[02:08] <rduke> I will research it...
[02:09] <rduke> yeah ...I am not going to go whalin
[02:09] <rduke> lol
[02:09] <rduke> me and my ak....lol
[02:09] <rduke> and a boat
[02:09] <rduke> with my g-friend steering
[02:09] <rduke> lol
[02:10] <islander> not in wisconsin yet
[02:10] <rduke> lol
[02:10] <islander> growing sounds easier,
[02:10] <rduke> Well I think Wax will be a fairly easy thing to salvage later anyway
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[02:10] <rduke> yeah Growing is my plan
[02:11] <rduke> I couldent figure out how to get seeds in the winter.........
[02:11] <rduke> they dont sell them like they used to
[02:11] <rduke> and I dont want GMO seeds
[02:11] <islander> also look at sources from palm etc, depends on climate and weather
[02:12] <rduke> Pine tree sap is also great fuel
[02:12] <obany> he is still online
[02:12] <obany> NancyL] (~NancyL@ool-4354a831.dyn.optonline.net) : NancyLieder
[02:12] <obany> --- [NancyL] Naaldwijk.NL.EU.FunNet.Org :Kabelfoon IRC Server
[02:12] <obany> --- [NancyL] is away ($$?="stfu")
[02:12] <obany> --- [NancyL] idle 01:53:50, signon: Mon Dec 30 09:07:15
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[02:12] <rduke> and Alcohol is fairly easy to make.....
[02:12] <rduke> I do plan on building a distiller
[02:13] <rduke> I could make two
[02:13] <islander> seed sources may just come out prior to april, hybrid seeds will revert to original if you sort out and catalogue over time
[02:13] <islander> everything needs to be double or triple for backup
[02:13] <rduke> yeah....I just went to my co-op bought some fruits and veges....
[02:14] <rduke> opened them up and took the seeds....dried them
[02:14] <rduke> and now have them stored
[02:14] <rduke> yeah I am a fan of backups...
[02:14] <scooby> obany: can you g-line?
[02:14] <obany> i can't
[02:14] <scooby> :)
[02:14] <islander> something i've done for years, just felt right
[02:14] <scooby> :(
[02:14] <scooby> lol
[02:14] <scooby> wrong one
[02:14] <islander> hi scoob
[02:14] <obany> i wish i could
[02:15] <scooby> hi islander
[02:15] <obany> :)
[02:15] <rduke> g-line?
[02:15] <inkpen> just msged him
[02:16] <rduke> I also have a collodial silver generator....
[02:16] <rduke> so I can help heal lots of people
[02:16] <scooby> rduke: you shoulda been here earlier when nightbird was talking about CS
[02:16] <rduke> why....
[02:17] <scooby> she was full of good info
[02:17] <scooby> but you prolly already know it
[02:17] <rduke> pro or con?
[02:17] <inkpen> rduke how much does it cost to buy 99.9% silver wire?
[02:17] <scooby> very PRO
[02:17] <rduke> yes
[02:17] <rduke> I agree
[02:17] <rduke> inkpen- I have my two silver electrodes for $15 I think
[02:18] <rduke> I have two sets....and will prob get another one
[02:18] <inkpen> allright...im going to make a cs genorator!
[02:18] <rduke> one pair would last YEARS
[02:19] <rduke> and make hundreds and hundreds of gallons
[02:19] <islander> oh so much to do and so little time...
[02:19] <rduke> lol
[02:19] <rduke> thats why we need to work together...
[02:19] <rduke> we cant do everything
[02:19] <islander> im just gonna collect the materials to build later
[02:19] <rduke> just what we can
[02:19] <rduke> oh yeah
[02:19] <rduke> me too
[02:19] <inkpen> like 9v batteries
[02:20] <rduke> nahh
[02:20] <rduke> I purchased my CS generator....
[02:20] <inkpen> sc will only be around the next 20 yrs or so
[02:20] <rduke> although it is fairly simple to make
[02:20] <rduke> my unit can use any powersource
[02:20] <rduke> solar....car battery.....
[02:21] <rduke> etc
[02:21] <inkpen> nix solar...25 year gloom
[02:21] <islander> i'm not going to depend on anything that will wear out, batteries etc, if I can't built and maintain, its toast
[02:21] <rduke> lol
[02:21] <islander> build
[02:21] <inkpen> mmm what type of power cell does your gen have?
[02:22] <rduke> I am not sure....
[02:22] <rduke> I know that it is very versitle....
[02:22] <rduke> and very simple
[02:22] <rduke> and works
[02:22] <rduke> really good
[02:22] <rduke> I can make ppm at any level...
[02:23] <rduke> the other thing about CS that is really cool is what it looks like
[02:24] <rduke> look at it straight when its about 8ppm-10ppm and its clear......tilt the container....and its blue/white
[02:24] <rduke> florescent allmost
[02:25] <rduke> anyone know how to make and maintain bacteria cultures...?
[02:26] <inkpen> good nite time to sign off now
[02:26] <rduke> gnight
[02:26] <rduke> seeya later
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[02:27] <inkpen> hia j...bia j
[02:27] <islander> good morning ink
[02:27] <inkpen> mmm
[02:27] <inkpen> lol
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[02:28] <islander> rd: try this http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab/b030.htm
[02:31] <islander> time for me to go too, catch you all later
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[02:58] <obany> :\
[02:58] <obany> http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=B3DCD4F6-5613-4530-B35FE406C0D4BBE8
[02:58] <obany> n the South Pacific, all contact has been lost with three small islands that were hit by a massive cyclone with winds gusting over 300 kilometers per hour.
[02:58] <obany> Government officials in the Solomon Islands asked Australia to send a search plane to fly over the remote islands, which have a population of about 1,000. A Solomon Islands patrol boat also has been ordered to head for the territory, Tikopia, Fatala and Anuta islands, at the eastern edge of the Santa Cruz group in the Solomons.
[02:58] <obany> Nothing has been heard from the isolated islands since Cyclone Zoe passed directly over them on Sunday.
[02:58] <obany> The cyclone, which had sustained winds close to 200 kilometers per hour and wind gusts measuring over 300 kilometers per hour, would have caused major flooding. When Zoe passed over the islands, it was rated as a maximum-strength, category-five, capable of the highest level of destruction and damage.
[03:01] <scooby> yeah... i heard about that here
[03:01] <scooby> haven't heard boo in the news tho...
[03:01] <scooby> : \
[03:02] <scooby> just registered www.shift2003.com for QueenVee's website
[03:02] <scooby> should be working by tomorrow this time
[03:02] <obany> interresting
[03:02] <obany> :)
[03:02] <scooby> she doesn't know yet...
[03:03] <obany> that must have been one cyclone :/
[03:03] <scooby> 300 KM/hour
[03:03] <scooby> ouch
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[04:28] <obany> QueenVee: check sci.astro
[04:28] <obany> i mean tt-watch
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[04:28] <obany> i posted about a Greek Island
[04:28] <QueenVee> hi, okay, hold on
[04:28] <obany> ASSOS FLOODS
[04:28] <obany> Disaster specialists arrive on battered Dodecanese island
[04:28] <obany> The small Aegean island of Kassos suffered extensive damage over the weekend after heavy rains on Friday and Saturday caused two torrents to swell and overwhelm homes, roads and even the island’s port with rubble and mud. Four of the island’s five villages were left without water, roads across the island were destroyed and some 25 houses in the villages of Fri and Arvanitohori were flooded. Disaster specialists from the fire
[04:28] <obany> gade’s EMAK unit arrived from Crete while other rescue workers came from Rhodes. An estimate of the damage is expected today. Meanwhile, the Merchant Marine Ministry issued another storm warning yesterday, saying winds of up to 9 Beaufort were expected in the central Aegean and south of Crete overnight.
[04:29] <obany> SMUGGLERS
[04:29] <QueenVee> geez
[04:29] <QueenVee> thanks for that
[04:30] <QueenVee> imagine what these islands are going to experience during the poleshift
[04:30] <obany> the name of that Island is KASSOS
[04:30] <obany> forgot an S
[04:30] <obany> http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_100016_30/12/2002_24698
[04:30] <QueenVee> it's hard to keep up with it all
[04:30] <obany> there is so much going on
[04:31] <obany> i read it before, but couldn't find an article yet. so i searched on news.google.com today
[04:31] <obany> and found news about it
[04:31] <obany> i read it on a dutch site
[04:31] <QueenVee> i don't know hw people cannot be wondering what the heck is going on
[04:32] <obany> i agree
[04:32] <obany> like they are walking around on this planet with their eyes closed
[04:33] <QueenVee> i directed someone to our website the other day, and she said ALL THAT HAS HAPPENED IN JUST ONE MONTH?
[04:34] <QueenVee> the daily documentation is important -- when looked at as a whole, it's very compelling
[04:34] <obany> it's hard for people got grasp o=upon
[04:34] <obany> QueenVee: i agree
[04:34] <obany> one has to look at the bigger picture
[04:35] <QueenVee> have you seen this: http://www.herald-dispatch.com/2002/July/06/LNtop1.htm
[04:35] <QueenVee> and this: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/environment/story.jsp?story=365018&dir=58&host=3
[04:37] <obany> mmm a increase on derailments and news about 2003
[04:38] <QueenVee> zetas right again
[04:38] <obany> Yes ..
[04:39] <obany> quenvee: and you send the herald article to tt-watch yet or to Nancy .. about the derailmnets ?
[04:39] <QueenVee> no, i'm just getting it up on my website -- feel free to do so yourself....
[04:39] <QueenVee> take anything from my site
[04:44] <obany> going to post to Nancy now .. mention that you mentioned the derailment article to me
[04:44] <QueenVee> :-)
[04:48] <obany> on it's way now to Nancy
[04:53] <QueenVee> http://adn.com/front/story/2388800p-2441643c.html
[04:56] <obany> about Alaska a quake that can happen like any minut or so
[04:56] <QueenVee> yep
[04:57] <QueenVee> this one closer to anchorage
[04:57] <QueenVee> like nancy said, they will start hitting cities soon
[04:57] <obany> yes yes
[05:03] <obany> i agree, and flooded cities .. etc
[05:04] <QueenVee> i don't know how people can remain in california...
[05:05] <obany> dead wish probably, but well the same counts for me ... ... not safe where i live either
[05:05] <obany> i live like 5 minuts from the beach or so
[05:05] <QueenVee> obany: yeah, but you know when the floods are coming, and can get out in time
[05:05] <QueenVee> in california the devestation could happen any minute
[05:06] <obany> I agree
[05:06] <QueenVee> what the hell is UP with those debunkers????
[05:06] <QueenVee> they are lunatics
[05:07] <obany> i know
[05:07] <obany> here
[05:07] <obany> he crowd's suspension
[05:07] <obany> of reality seems to the be the key to their overall cluelessness, they're
[05:07] <obany> all playing along at some wierd game.  Like obany's comment at the last
[05:07] <obany> IRC - Michael and Silk were 'spoiling it' for him and it was pissing him
[05:07] <obany> off.  Strange....
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[05:07] <obany> they keep on talking about me on sci.astro
[05:07] <Messadot> hi allll....
[05:07] <QueenVee> really weird
[05:08] <QueenVee> hiya Messadot
[05:08] <obany> i am like their next target or so sigh
[05:08] <QueenVee> messadot: lots and lots of stuff happening around the world: check out today's news stories on our website when you have the chance: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[05:08] <Messadot> sorry, i am drink some vodka.... and my english is bad....
[05:08] <QueenVee> lol
[05:09] <QueenVee> vodka good
[05:09] <Messadot> yessss very good... i am happy
[05:09] <QueenVee> but it is too early to drink vodka here -- it is only 8am...
[05:09] <Messadot> it's your 8am
[05:10] <QueenVee> what time is it in Russia?
[05:10] <Messadot> 18.07
[05:10] <Messadot> in Ufa
[05:10] <QueenVee> it is never too early to drink vodka in russia, right?
[05:10] <Messadot> yes
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[05:14] <Messadot> QV, look at http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p05.htm   ".... Following this I am given a vision of a house in what seems to be a hot, desert like place, with a dry wind blowing...." I saw it
[05:14] <QueenVee> hello Chip, what brings you to this room?
[05:15] <QueenVee> Messadot: very interesting
[05:15] <Messadot> Is there anybody from Russia?
[05:16] <QueenVee> Messadot: yes, there are several who visit this room from Russia.... none here right now though
[05:16] <QueenVee> Chip: ARE YOU THERE?
[05:16] <Chip> Just lurking
[05:17] <QueenVee> Chip: sorry, but we don't allow newcomers to lurk
[05:17] <Chip> Why not?
[05:17] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[05:18] <QueenVee> we need to talk to you to determine whether you are serious
[05:18] <QueenVee> it is also a channel where people are required to contribute as well as pick up information
[05:18] <QueenVee> you may find #earthchanges more to your liking
[05:18] <Chip> I'm very serious.
[05:19] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[05:19] <Chip> About a year.
[05:19] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in?
[05:19] <Chip> Switzerland
[05:20] <QueenVee> ah, i believe you are the first Swiss person to visit here.... a number from Netherlands, Finland, Denmark, but not Switzerland
[05:20] <Chip> How many people all together?
[05:21] <QueenVee> well, i have a mailing list of over 200 people who have been to this room over the past six months
[05:21] <QueenVee> but we have a core group of maybe 50 participants who are here everyday
[05:22] <Chip> Kind of an esoteric group.
[05:22] <QueenVee> exoteric?
[05:22] <QueenVee> esoteric?
[05:22] <Chip> Rather small still.
[05:22] <QueenVee> yep
[05:23] <QueenVee> are you far enough inland for safety during the shift?
[05:23] <QueenVee> i assume you've read this: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx026.htm
[05:23] <Chip> yes, I think so.
[05:23] <Chip> I've read it.
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[05:25] <QueenVee> Chip: what are you doing to prepare for the poleshift?
[05:26] <Chip> Thats what I'm here to find out.
[05:26] <QueenVee> you're here to find out what you're doing to prepare?
[05:27] <Chip> What I should be doing now.
[05:28] <QueenVee> you should be determining the relatively safety of the area you are living in, and making relocation plans if it is a risky area
[05:28] <QueenVee> you should have located a safe place well away from any city where you can be during and after the poleshift
[05:28] <Chip> I live next to a big lake, 1200 feet high.
[05:29] <QueenVee> you should be aware of how to protect yourself during the poleshift itself
[05:29] <Chip> There's a big tunnel wih
[05:29] <QueenVee> you should at the very least have an extensive list of all of the food and supplies you will need to stock up on shortly before the shift
[05:29] <QueenVee> 1200 feet above sea level?
[05:30] <QueenVee> how far from the coast?
[05:30] <Chip> The tunnel nearby has lots of food stored for everybody.
[05:30] <Chip> Far from coast but next to a lake.
[05:31] <QueenVee> Chip: who has stored food in the tunnel?
[05:31] <Chip> The Government
[05:31] <QueenVee> bear in mind that the tunnel will NOT be a safe place to be during the shift, and will probably collapse, probably trapping all the supplies
[05:31] <QueenVee> and you are confident that the govt will provide such foods to the people?
[05:31] <QueenVee> i wouldn't be
[05:32] <Chip> That's bad news.
[05:32] <QueenVee> how far are you from the lake?
[05:32] <Chip> Right on it.
[05:33] <QueenVee> you are not in a safe place. you should be AT LEAST 50 miles inland from the Lake to avoid sloshing (preferably 100), and at a higher altitude. remember that your area will be LOSING 150 feet with the stretching of the atlantic
[05:34] <Chip> I thought 750 feet was the minimum.
[05:35] <QueenVee> not where there will be a loss of elevation
[05:35] <Chip> Like sinking Alps?
[05:35] <QueenVee> and not in a country where coastal waters will be CLIMBING....
[05:36] <QueenVee> no, alps won't sink, the coast will sink, causing general elevation loss
[05:36] <Chip> I'm far from the ocean.
[05:37] <QueenVee> well, read the section on Switzerland very carefully and plan accordingly
[05:37] <Chip> Right.
[05:37] <obany> hi Chip
[05:37] <Chip> Hi
[05:39] <Chip> Do you know the best way to heat a room when the power goes off?
[05:42] <QueenVee> via a fire with a vent for the smoke
[05:42] <Chip> What type of fire?
[05:42] <QueenVee> wood, coal, anything that will sustain a flame
[05:43] <Chip> Would coal be better than wood or kerosine?
[05:44] <QueenVee> if there isn't a fireplace, a covered potbellied stove with a stove pipe directed out the window would work
[05:44] <QueenVee> all about the same
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[05:44] <QueenVee> wb messadot
[05:44] <Messadot> hello again!...
[05:45] <Messadot> what's new?
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[05:46] <QueenVee> nothing since you were last here
[05:46] <QueenVee> check out our website
[05:46] <Messadot> ok.....
[05:47] <Messadot> qv, where are you from?
[05:47] <QueenVee> ontario canada
[05:48] <Messadot> your weather is cold?
[05:49] <QueenVee> no, we've been having increasingly milder winteres every yaer
[05:50] <Messadot> it's good
[05:51] <QueenVee> yes, and will be even better after the shift
[05:52] <Messadot> our winters is increasingly milder also, but this winter is very cold - 30C - 45C
[05:52] <Messadot> is my english so bad?
[05:52] <QueenVee> yes, i heard
[05:52] <QueenVee> no, your english is very good
[05:53] <Messadot> thank you...
[05:53] <QueenVee> much better than my russian   ;-)
[05:53] <Messadot> my car is stopped... :(
[05:53] <Messadot> not running
[05:53] <QueenVee> oh dear
[05:54] <Messadot> look here - http://www.ufanet.ru:8080/photo/servlet/executer?action=fotoList&gid=63
[05:54] <Messadot> it's Ural
[05:56] <QueenVee> yes, where the russian government has its bunkers
[05:56] <Messadot> yeee.... we have many secret places
[05:57] <QueenVee> see this on our website: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=34
[05:59] <Messadot> yes, these mountain nears Ufa
[06:00] <Messadot> it's closed zone
[06:00] <Messadot> one minute plizzzzz... i have link on map
[06:01] <QueenVee> ok
[06:06] <Messadot> look here - http://www.bashedu.ru/encikl/fiz.JPG       it's Republic of Bashkortostan
[06:07] <Messadot> in middle of this map is Ufa sity
[06:08] <Messadot> are you here?
[06:08] <Messadot> qv?
[06:09] <QueenVee> yes, that link doesn't work
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[06:10] <Messadot> oopsss....
[06:11] <Messadot> try it again
[06:12] <QueenVee> why would it work now?
[06:12] <Messadot> our communication is not good
[06:12] <QueenVee> still doesn't work
[06:13] <Messadot> sorry
[06:20] <Messadot> well... have you any interesting information?
[06:21] <QueenVee> it's all on our website, messadot....
[06:21] <QueenVee> i'm putting new articles up there right now....
[06:21] <Messadot> ok
[06:21] <QueenVee> obany: are you still there?
[06:33] <Messadot> obany is out there...
[06:33] <QueenVee> hehe
[06:33] <Messadot> :)
[06:33] <QueenVee> well, ihave to take a little big of a nap, was up very early this morning with my dog.....
[06:33] <QueenVee> later....
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[06:37] <Messadot> by!
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[08:12] <loitus> lol
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[08:29] <Dsarith> Good Morning all
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[08:54] <Red> greetings allaway ;)
[08:54] <Red> y'all have a great New Years!
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[09:15] <QueenVee> hello all
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[09:33] <QueenVee> hello DrGreen
[09:34] <DRGREEN> hello everybody.
[09:34] <QueenVee> did you get my email?
[09:34] <DRGREEN> yep.
[09:34] <QueenVee> i'm so so so so sorry
[09:34] <DRGREEN> never mind.
[09:35] <QueenVee> there's a massive amount of new stuff up on our website today:http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[09:36] <DRGREEN> weather is really going mad here. Belgium had lots of flooding lately, because of heavy rain. The Netherlands are starting to have troubles with the dykes, and also heavy rainfall.
[09:37] <QueenVee> yes, i can hardly keep up with it, it's just one thing after another
[09:38] <QueenVee> do you realize it is only 2 months and 3 weeks until it will be visible in the sky with the naked eye?
[09:38] <DRGREEN> I'm gonna move soon. Oer plan is working out fortunately, and Sweden is really relaxed concerning rules.
[09:38] <DRGREEN> yes.
[09:38] <DRGREEN> But
[09:39] <DRGREEN> the latest pictures seem very strang to me. I hope more analysis will be up soon.
[09:39] <QueenVee> i'm meeting with my cousin today, the one who's farm i will be at the time of the shift.... to firm up our plans....
[09:39] <DRGREEN> Soon, I'll try to take my own with a couple of friends.
[09:39] <QueenVee> oh, yes, still plenty of "but" to be considered....
[09:39] <QueenVee> nothing conclusive yet
[09:40] <DRGREEN> yes. The signs sure are increasing. Damn, I wish to be sure, I bet everyone does.
[09:41] <QueenVee> yep
[09:41] <DRGREEN> I just wonder how much injustice there would be if nothing happens. Then all those mindless sheep are still right.
[09:42] <QueenVee> i'm in a state of limbo until things firm up -- don't want to tell my friends and relatives to bankrupt themselves by laying in supplies, etc. yet, but also don't want to tell them too late....
[09:42] <DRGREEN> that's a difficult situation.
[09:43] <QueenVee> well, if nothing happens, Nancy will go down as the most diabolically clever con-artist ever
[09:43] <DRGREEN> I already told everyone close to me, and fortunately they're all very open. But they're only prepared to spend money on preps if they are sure. Understandable.
[09:43] <DRGREEN> sure.
[09:43] <QueenVee> absolutely understandable
[09:44] <DRGREEN> Sorry if I type a little slow, my little finger just broke recently. Lucky for me it doesn't hurt a bit.
[09:45] <QueenVee> poor you
[09:46] <DRGREEN> The only thing that bothers me about it is that I cannot play any 3dshoot 'em up-games anymore.
[09:47] <QueenVee> a tragedy
[09:47] <DRGREEN> hehe.
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[09:54] <DRGREEN> I see (the new news). Here also more derailments lately. Also a recent constructionproject led by the best failed. A bridge/tunnel-combination fell apart during construction because of unforseen and unexplained landslides.
[09:54] <QueenVee> wow, do you have any links about the tunnel?
[09:55] <DRGREEN> No, it was on the televisionnews. I have not looked up any internetinfo.
[09:55] <QueenVee> well, you must read this, about the noises being heard in India, which are now assumed to be seismic in nature: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2611307.stm
[09:56] <DRGREEN> It happened here in the netherlands. Experts guess that heavy rainfall in 2002 caused the ground to be much wetter, so more slides.
[09:57] <DRGREEN> Yes, I heard it about India on the news.
[09:57] <DRGREEN> Sonic booms?
[09:57] <DRGREEN> Noone there can really explain why.
[09:58] <QueenVee> scary
[09:58] <DRGREEN> Maybe it's a secret underground STS alien assault on the government secret bases haha.
[09:59] <DRGREEN> I'll just stick with the sonic booms.
[09:59] <QueenVee> hehe
[09:59] <DRGREEN> Hey, I gotta go shopping. Bye see you later best to you.
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[10:24] <obany> queen, you away ?
[10:24] <obany> :p
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[10:25] <kingobany> hehehehe :)
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[10:27] <obany> hi spanky
[10:27] <obany> just don't spank me :P
[10:27] <Spanky> hi obany
[10:28] <obany> hi
[10:28] <Spanky> do you still think its gonna happen?
[10:28] <obany> YES
[10:29] <obany> just look at this page ... things that happend http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/ news
[10:30] <Spanky> either that or bush will start ww3
[10:30] <obany> i doubt that bush wil succeed ....
[10:31] <Spanky> maybe there will be no poleshift but the Niburians will attack us.
[10:32] <obany> well that is not the purpose of this channel .. spanky ...
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[10:36] <obany> hi red
[10:39] <Red> hiya obany
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[10:41] <yggdrasil> thos pictures dont mean much to m
[10:41] <yggdrasil> e
[10:42] <obany> ygdrassil: why not?
[10:42] <yggdrasil> looks like the back of my toilet
[10:42] <obany> so then what do you want?
[10:42] <yggdrasil> a circle
[10:42] <yggdrasil> well what am iloooking at?
[10:43] <yggdrasil> or for i should say
[10:43] <obany> well then you will have to wait a bit longer... ygdrassil ... but well i think you deny the fact that there are things going on and ythat you will only will take it serious once you will see a good picture ?
[10:43] <obany> is that it
[10:43] <yggdrasil> yep
[10:43] <obany> as this channel is for discussion about people who prepare ... and not for discussiong wether it's right or wrong
[10:44] <obany> better go to #eartchanges then
[10:44] <yggdrasil> i just said that the pics dont make anysence to me
[10:44] <obany> yes, and ?
[10:45] <obany> they do make sense to others
[10:45] <yggdrasil> thoguht maybe somone would say its the third dot on the left
[10:45] <yggdrasil> ;-)
[10:45] <obany> well probably you will wait until you will see in the sky ... ... .. will you still have time to move at that time ?
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[10:46] <yggdrasil> i dont have to move
[10:46] <obany> so you don't prepare at all ?
[10:46] <yggdrasil> im ready
[10:46] <obany> so you deny the signs ... just because you don't see a good picture
[10:46] <obany> go figure
[10:47] <Spanky> anyone think gollum looks like a hybrid?
[10:47] <obany> gollum?
[10:47] <reticuli> lol
[10:48] <obany> lotr 2 ....... i guess ... well spanky i am sure that is not how hybrids look like ... altough i haven't seen lotr 3 yet
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[10:48] <obany> 2
[10:48] <BB> hi
[10:48] <obany> hi
[10:48] <reticuli> where do u live ygg?
[10:48] <BB> will ther eprobs with Grav?
[10:49] <BB> Sorry
[10:49] <BB> will there be probs with gravity?
[10:49] <obany> BB: no
[10:49] <reticuli> can you give me an example of a prob with gravity?
[10:50] <yggdrasil> new mexico
[10:50] <reticuli> sounds like a pretty safe place
[10:51] <yggdrasil> i think so
[10:51] <yggdrasil> just said it might  get pretty dry
[10:51] <yggdrasil> i can live with that
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[10:52] <BB1> was I booted?
[10:53] <obany> no no
[10:53] <BB1> want to see dream?
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[10:53] <BB1> read*
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[10:57] <reticuli> what the fuck! http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_alert_123002_general.html
[10:57] <reticuli> ew
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[11:11] <reticuli> hello
[11:12] <Rich> hi
[11:12] <Rich> what time of day at your place
[11:12] <reticuli> 11:15pm
[11:12] <reticuli> oops
[11:12] <reticuli> am
[11:13] <Rich> its just after 8am Tuesday here
[11:13] <reticuli> where?
[11:13] <Rich> New Zealand
[11:13] <Rich> you?
[11:13] <reticuli> seattle
[11:13] <Rich> ok
[11:14] <Rich> things are moving fast on the daily news front
[11:14] <Rich> see the piece about UK may stop people moving out of cities
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[11:14] <reticuli> no
[11:15] <reticuli> link?
[11:15] <Rich> its on the news section of Queenvee's shift2003 site
[11:15] <Rich> you have that URL
[11:15] <reticuli> I dont remember
[11:15] <Rich> also reported in NZ Herald here
[11:16] <Rich> hold on
[11:16] <reticuli> heard about the baby eater?
[11:16] <reticuli> thats sick
[11:16] <Rich> http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/
[11:16] <reticuli> http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_alert_123002_general.html
[11:16] <Rich> what baby eater?
[11:17] <reticuli> go to the linl i sent
[11:17] <Rich> I think many people will begin "losing" it soon
[11:17] <reticuli> yeah... check this one out http://www.iht.com/articles/80749.html
[11:18] <Rich> on TV ... crazy ... anything to keep peoples minds 'elsewhere'
[11:18] <reticuli> I am at a loss to understand what the artistic statment there is?
[11:19] <Rich> yeah the Germany thing I had already heard about
[11:19] <reticuli> "i am a performance artist.... I shit on public sidewalks"
[11:19] <reticuli> hehe
[11:19] <Rich> no artistic statement just low gratifying sensation
[11:20] <Rich> so you believe in the coming pole shift?
[11:21] <Rich> no need to answer yah or neigh
[11:21] <reticuli> not really... I do believe sonething big is coming nect year... not sure what. I have an open mind so for me its not a question of belief. If I see it then i will prepare
[11:22] <reticuli> you?
[11:22] <Rich> i'm not sure if we are going to have too much time to prepare. The shit has become happening already
[11:23] <Rich> I believe stronger and stroner each day
[11:23] <reticuli> hmm, well according to zetatalk we will have some time
[11:23] <Rich> I hope so
[11:23] <Rich> i'm striving to get things together
[11:23] <reticuli> good deal
[11:23] <reticuli> what r your plans?
[11:23] <Rich> you still have to lead a daily life as well and thats the hard bit
[11:24] <reticuli> my wife and I just had a baby
[11:24] <Rich> i wish you well
[11:25] <Rich> my youngest daughter just had a baby as well
[11:25] <Rich> my 1st grandchild
[11:25] <reticuli> so, buying weapons and canned food really isnt in the budget... I think being prepared for these things is important... just cant justify those kinds of expenditures at the moment
[11:25] <Rich> you read all of the zetatalk site?
[11:26] <reticuli> not even close, just parts
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[11:48] <airman_contagious_corpses_of_1> hello
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[12:01] <reticuli> hi
[12:01] <Red> Hey reticuli   How goes it?
[12:01] <Red> kinda quiet ....
[12:01] <reticuli> pretty good.. you?
[12:01] <Red> great here thanks
[12:02] <reticuli> where are you again?
[12:02] <Red> Alberta, Canada, you?
[12:02] <reticuli> seattle wa
[12:02] <reticuli> I was told that I should go to alberta... that it was the closest safe place
[12:03] <Red> sO THEY SAY..
[12:03] <Red> How's your weather there?   I am headed to Vancouver for a couple weeks
[12:03] <reticuli> the zetas told me this
[12:03] <reticuli> its been wet
[12:04] <reticuli> bring rain gear
[12:04] <Red> yeah we just got a bit of snow   I'm not looking forward to the rain  hehe
[12:04] <Red> the zetas?  are you a contactee?
[12:04] <reticuli> yes
[12:05] <Red> do you get any other details or just like that
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[12:12] <Danvaldan> hi all!
[12:12] <reticuli> hello
[12:13] <obany> hi
[12:14] <Red> fyi... CBC's Ideas program tonight is airing a discussion on New Millennium Doomsday prophesies etc... might be worth a listen.   You can access on the web real audio   I think if you surf the www.cbc.ca  look for Radio One.  I think its runs 9PM local time, you can select locations from the site
[12:14] <Danvaldan> Obany I have something I want to make into a question - but I dont want to get you upset...
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[12:15] <reticuli> ribbit
[12:15] <Danvaldan> heh
[12:15] <froggy> ribbit
[12:16] <Danvaldan> ok here goes -
[12:17] <Danvaldan> planet x inhabitants are aware they will pass us
[12:17] <Danvaldan> planet x inhabitants have 'levitation' technology
[12:18] <Danvaldan> levitation 'blocks' gravity
[12:19] <Danvaldan> some planet x inhabitants are sympathetic to out cause
[12:19] <Danvaldan> our
[12:20] <Danvaldan> should we not be able to communicate with them to try and help ourselves out of this 'shift'?
[12:21] <Danvaldan> perhaps, but ZT indicates we and tem are quarantined from each other - basically for our protection.
[12:22] <Danvaldan> but if it could mean our survival, wouldnt contact be to both our benefits?
[12:23] <Danvaldan> giving them an extraordinary chance to make a great STO move, and us a chance to broaden our monds and possibly not loose a huge percentage of our population?
[12:25] <froggy> that's an interesting twist
[12:25] <Danvaldan> isnt this logical?
[12:26] <froggy> is any of this logical?
[12:26] <Danvaldan> I guess - you have to use whats given - right?
[12:26] <froggy> no, i don't think it will happen
[12:26] <froggy> like that
[12:26] <Danvaldan> how do you mean?
[12:27] <froggy> i thought of that before
[12:27] <Danvaldan> yes and?
[12:28] <froggy> honestly, i don't think i should be here anymore, because i don't think any of this is going to happen....
[12:28] <Danvaldan> ugh - why not?
[12:28] <froggy> i love the message though
[12:29] <froggy> and i love the values
[12:29] <Danvaldan> love? worlds gonna end, prepare to die?
[12:29] <reticuli> you must be a leftist froggy
[12:29] <reticuli> hehe
[12:29] <froggy> and if it does happen why wouldn't they hop on from another plantet....being so close
[12:30] <froggy> what is a feftist?
[12:30] <froggy> leftist
[12:30] <reticuli> how old are you froggy?
[12:30] <froggy> i like the message of everybody getting along no matter what
[12:31] <froggy> why
[12:31] <Danvaldan> yes - but thats after most people are gone
[12:31] <reticuli> just curious, want to put some details with your face
[12:31] <Danvaldan> I love peace and love too.
[12:32] <reticuli> i should say, I want to put a face with your name
[12:32] <froggy> why, what diffrence does it make?
[12:33] <Danvaldan> retic - what do you think of this idea?
[12:33] <reticuli> well, people are biological beings. I assume you are a person. So that detail will help me to better understand you as a human
[12:33] * JurAFK is now known as Jurian
[12:33] <froggy> i liked zt because of the message, but i don't think px is coming
[12:33] <Danvaldan> hi Jurian
[12:33] <froggy> hi
[12:33] <Red> Hey Jurian... see y'all later
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[12:34] <froggy> how i look has nothing to do with how i think and feel
[12:34] <reticuli> the major weakness with your theory dan is that you assume that an STO being would be helping us by averting the passing
[12:35] <Danvaldan> what the problem with thet?
[12:35] <reticuli> maybe doing service to us is letting us die
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[12:35] <Danvaldan> if we have a chance to avert our deaths and we dont - thats suicide
[12:36] <reticuli> yeah, key word "we" the nibiruians are not "we"
[12:36] <Danvaldan> if the greater good is working tohether and expanding conciousness -
[12:36] <reticuli> you presume to know, ok
[12:36] * Looking up Queen-away user info...
[12:36] <reticuli> froggy, sorry, I dont care what you look like. I was just curious as to how old you were. It helps to interpret your statements
[12:37] <froggy> i'm 42
[12:37] <Danvaldan> they are characterized as STS - but given a chance to save a boatload of lives - perhaps it could intrique them.
[12:37] <Danvaldan> have they been given a chance to do a good deed?
[12:38] <reticuli> huh
[12:38] <Danvaldan> or are we all in a zoo, divided by fences and fed and bread at others whims?
[12:38] <reticuli> like I said, you assume that saving us is a "good deed" maybe it snot
[12:38] <reticuli> snot=not
[12:38] <reticuli> :)
[12:38] <Danvaldan> snot
[12:38] <froggy> :)
[12:39] <Danvaldan> I personally would like to participate in convinicing someone that we are worth saving.
[12:39] <reticuli> good luck
[12:39] <Danvaldan> good gravy
[12:39] <froggy> Danvaldan, nobody is going to save you
[12:39] <Danvaldan> great
[12:39] <reticuli> lol
[12:39] <Danvaldan> thats a vote of confidence
[12:39] <froggy> and you can't save anybody
[12:39] <Danvaldan> great
[12:40] <froggy> sorry
[12:40] <Danvaldan> someone give me a mr.microphone to planet x and I will convince them - they will do it for our cable tv -
[12:41] <reticuli> i think you have answered your own question as to wether we are worth saving
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[12:41] <Danvaldan> hi tex
[12:41] <froggy> hi
[12:41] <tex-at-work> hey
[12:41] <tex-at-work> what's going on
[12:41] <Danvaldan> I have a plan to avert the poleshift
[12:42] <tex-at-work> interesting
[12:42] <Danvaldan> planet x folks have levitation technology right?
[12:42] <Danvaldan> they are aware of us right?
[12:43] <froggy> levitation is not technology
[12:43] <Danvaldan> no?
[12:43] <reticuli> levitation is not cable tv
[12:43] <Danvaldan> they made pyramids right?
[12:43] <froggy> not that i know of.....maybe you know something i don't
[12:43] <DRGREEN> why do you assume Anunaki have levitation ability?
[12:43] <Danvaldan> isnt that in ZT?
[12:44] <DRGREEN> Nope, they made deals with STS aliens who built the pyramids for the Anunaki.
[12:44] <Danvaldan> didnt thay flowt the stones to make the pyramids?
[12:44] <Danvaldan> oh great
[12:44] <DRGREEN> these STS aliens are 4th density.
[12:44] <reticuli> lol
[12:44] <Danvaldan> argh...
[12:44] <reticuli> your dead buddy
[12:44] <reticuli> go back to tv
[12:44] <Danvaldan> well why cant we talk to those chaps?
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[12:45] <DRGREEN> It's forbidden so says the universal government.
[12:45] <Danvaldan> yes yes - forbidden to help
[12:45] <froggy> hi jed
[12:45] <DRGREEN> They would sabotage our spiritual growth.
[12:45] <jed> hi froggy
[12:45] <Danvaldan> who - the Annuki?
[12:45] <jed> what's forbiddn?
[12:46] <DRGREEN> no, the STS aliens whom helped the Anunaki.
[12:46] <reticuli> cable tv on nibiru
[12:46] <reticuli> is forbidden
[12:46] <DRGREEN> hehe.
[12:46] <jed> very funny.  i forbid it here too
[12:46] * DRGREEN is now known as DRG-away
[12:47] <Danvaldan> I want us to help ourselves - that may mean getting in front of this Universal Law Body and making our case.
[12:47] <froggy> go ahead......lots of luck to you
[12:48] <reticuli> maybe johhny cochran is available
[12:48] <reticuli> hehe
[12:48] <Danvaldan> Give us a chance to turn all our factories into some kindof save the world effort - or whatever it takes.
[12:48] <reticuli> people would never go for it
[12:48] <froggy> fat chance
[12:48] <Danvaldan> sure they would.
[12:49] <Danvaldan> soon as someone sees an Annuki on tv they will all be on board.
[12:49] <reticuli> lol, "dubya turns over US industry to the Annunaki"
[12:49] <Danvaldan> hahhaa
[12:49] <reticuli> you have a very sunny perspective of human nature dan
[12:50] <froggy> i like the idea of sto community.....it's just an impossible dream
[12:50] <Danvaldan> Yes - give people a chance to do something right and they wil take it
[12:50] <froggy> in my lifetime
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[12:50] <reticuli> how old are you dan?
[12:50] <Danvaldan> 34
[12:50] <reticuli> wow, you are optimistic
[12:51] <reticuli> i thougtht maybe you were just young
[12:51] <Danvaldan> well how often do people clearly get a chance to do something good -
[12:51] <reticuli> everyday
[12:51] <tex-at-work> http://www.space.com/news/area51_exempt_021230.html
[12:51] <Danvaldan> and not have to fit in with their past or what not
[12:51] <froggy> Danvaldan, you are cute
[12:51] <froggy> i have to go....later :)
[12:51] <Danvaldan> heh - thanks
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[12:52] <reticuli> troubled times is so dead these days... its funny.
[12:53] <reticuli> take away all the people with something to say, leave the critics all alone and they have nothing to criricise
[12:53] <Danvaldan> I never went there
[12:53] <reticuli> you missed nothing
[12:54] <reticuli> a lot of shit talk and jokes about nancy
[12:54] <reticuli> bunch a losers
[12:54] <reticuli> I see jurian finally came over to this side
[12:55] <Danvaldan> ok I am out of here....
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[12:56] * reticuli is now known as ret-lunch
[12:56] <obany> right, it's not my kind of channel anymore #troubled_times that is ... altough is till hang around over here
[13:03] <DRG-away> Why is TT so empty lately?
[13:03] * DRG-away is now known as DRGREEN
[13:04] <obany> mostly because i turned into the debunking channek,  people can't speak freely ... as they might be joked about etc
[13:06] <DRGREEN> course. Gerard je had mn broer gister een ICQ berichtje gestuurd met een link naar rtlnieuws ofzo, over het rare weer en klimaat. Zet de link even hier neer aub ik heb het nog niet gelezen en ik zit nu achter een andere comp.
[13:06] <obany> http://www.rtl.nl/videotext/rtl4/pag106/01
[13:06] <DRGREEN> thx
[13:07] <DRGREEN> hehe het broeikaseffect.
[13:08] <obany> ja dat denken ze ja
[13:08] <obany> ik weet het
[13:08] <obany> maar als je dan het bedrag bekijkt 55 miljard euro
[13:09] <DRGREEN> ja dat is vrij duidelijk. meer dan 50% erbovenop (2001).
[13:10] <obany> komt mede oa door Duitsland natuurlijk denk ook met z'n overstromingen
[13:11] <DRGREEN> gaat wel erg snel ineens de laatste tijd dat broeikaseffect, is er zoveel meer uitstoot plotseling? Waarom nemen mensen het toch aan.
[13:11] <DRGREEN> de rampen lopen uit verhouding met het broeikaseffect.
[13:12] <obany> vindt ik ook ....
[13:13] <obany> maar ja er zijn er altijd bij die alleen maar 'geloven' wat het nieuws ze voorkauwt... dus als dat zegt broeikaseffect
[13:13] <DRGREEN> vinden is nog zacht uitgedrukt, het is zo.
[13:13] <DRGREEN> yep.
[13:14] <DRGREEN> nah jah ik ga nog maar wat eten dan. CUl8er
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[13:32] * Queen-away is now known as QueenVee
[13:38] <Dsarith> Hi QV
[13:38] <QueenVee> hi there
[13:38] <Dsarith> I was just reading over the logs from Saturday :-)
[13:38] <QueenVee> i'm a little tipsy, just spend a few hours in the local pub with my cousin....
[13:38] <ret-lunch> cheers
[13:38] <Dsarith> The weather here in Texas is unbelievable.
[13:39] <QueenVee> how so>
[13:39] * ret-lunch is now known as reticuli
[13:39] <QueenVee> this is the cousin that i'll be riding out the poleshift with
[13:39] <Dsarith> I have been in texas for 24 years, since I was 12 and it is like spring weather, complete with tornados today
[13:40] <reticuli> did ya raise your glasses to nibiru?
[13:40] <QueenVee> i just found out that she has a friend in BC who is an amateur astronomer with a huge scope, who can take pictures, etc.....
[13:40] <QueenVee> we'll be sending the coordinates to him....
[13:40] <reticuli> cool
[13:40] <QueenVee> Dsarith: tornados???
[13:40] <reticuli> keep us posted
[13:41] <QueenVee> this thing is getting very serious and very real
[13:41] <QueenVee> what my cousin and i have been discussing theoretically, we are not discussing in deadly ernest
[13:41] <QueenVee> not=now
[13:41] <reticuli> if the BF with the huge scope sees it i will agree with you queen
[13:41] <Dsarith> Yes, but nothing big I dont think. Hard to catch the news from my desk, but stuff is being picked up and dropped. Tornadic storms are unheard of in the dead of winter and usually it sits in the 20 - 30 here in north texas
[13:41] <QueenVee> the more people looking, the better
[13:42] <QueenVee> Dsarith: yep, hearing the same stories from all over
[13:42] <Dsarith> Its been floating 50 - 75
[13:42] <QueenVee> check this story out, guys. zetas right again: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=76
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[13:45] <QueenVee> hello enohpelt
[13:45] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[13:45] <enohpelt> hi all
[13:45] <enohpelt> :) well... is quite a long story
[13:45] <QueenVee> we're all ears
[13:46] <enohpelt> hehehe
[13:46] <QueenVee> start with how long you've been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift
[13:46] <enohpelt> well, just don't mind... I saw the "link" on www.zetatalk.com
[13:46] <reticuli> whew, thats a long yarn
[13:47] <QueenVee> no, i'm not a bot
[13:47] <QueenVee> i'm the moderator of this room
[13:48] <enohpelt> lol, yes, I shortened the story a bit ')
[13:48] <reticuli> come on, admit it you are too a bot
[13:48] <enohpelt> :)
[13:48] <enohpelt> not realy
[13:48] <Dsarith> She is a chatty bot :-)
[13:49] <reticuli> queen-bot
[13:49] <enohpelt> ;))) I guessed right then
[13:49] <reticuli> we are all bots here
[13:49] <QueenVee> back to my question, eno: how long you've been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift
[13:50] <enohpelt> Queen, I realy don't won't to be rude, but is that important?
[13:51] <QueenVee> enohpelt: yes, it is that important. please take note of the notice that greets you when you enter this room:
[13:51] <QueenVee>  * Topic is 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[13:51] <QueenVee> it's also generally important to get along with the moderator if you expect to stay in her chat room
[13:51] <QueenVee> :-)
[13:51] <reticuli> hehe
[13:52] <enohpelt> I see i see
[13:52] <enohpelt> :)
[13:52] <QueenVee> another volcano has erupted in Italy: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=77
[13:52] <enohpelt> another?
[13:53] <enohpelt> OMG!
[13:53] <QueenVee> i'll give you one more chance to answer the question, eno
[13:53] <reticuli> i hear the jeopardy timer
[13:53] <QueenVee> ten
[13:53] <QueenVee> nine
[13:53] <QueenVee> eight
[13:53] <enohpelt> ok, ok, don't be so too serious about serious stuff...  I feel attacked; I'm not an native english speaker
[13:53] <QueenVee> seven
[13:53] <QueenVee> six
[13:54] <enohpelt> give me a minute ;)
[13:54] <QueenVee> five
[13:54] <QueenVee> four
[13:54] <QueenVee> three
[13:54] <QueenVee> two
[13:54] <QueenVee> one
[13:54] <QueenVee> ?
[13:54] <QueenVee> Reticuli: the guy's english sounds pretty good to me; what about you?
[13:54] <reticuli> yep
[13:55] <reticuli> sounds perfect
[13:55] <Dsarith> QV look in the news tomorrow and see the events for North Texas. Should be able to post something about that on the website.
[13:55] <enohpelt> Samo verjamem, da ne razumete niti besede, kar vam zdaj pisem :)
[13:55] <Dsarith> Yep
[13:55] <enohpelt> Capisci?
[13:55] <QueenVee> buh bye
[13:55] <reticuli> lol
[13:55] * enohpelt was kicked by QueenVee (enohpelt)
[13:55] <QueenVee> okay, dsarith, thanks
[13:55] <QueenVee> save any links if you run across them....
[13:55] <Dsarith> Will do
[13:56] <tex-at-work> Dsarith... what events
[13:56] <QueenVee> hey tex
[13:56] <Dsarith> Hey Tex
[13:56] <tex-at-work> sorry just walked back in... had to run to the store
[13:56] <Dsarith> We are getting Tornado weather up here
[13:56] <tex-at-work> it's 66 here today
[13:56] <Dsarith> In the middle of Winter... I am so sure
[13:57] <tex-at-work> I was afraid you might be having a spell with the weather overthere
[13:57] <Dsarith> Yep... They had evacuated all of us into our Safe Rooms for about 30 minutes
[13:57] <QueenVee> wow
[13:57] <reticuli> "they"
[13:57] <Dsarith> Yip it was a bad one.. First time we have ever been evacuated
[13:58] <Dsarith> Even in spring
[13:58] <reticuli> "we"
[13:58] <Dsarith> The company I work for is They and we being the employees :-)
[13:58] <reticuli> aaaahhhhhhhhh
[13:58] <tex-at-work> brb
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[13:58] <Dsarith> Tornado Sirens going off all over the place
[13:58] <enohpelt> 6months
[13:58] <reticuli> I see I am not the only one being paid here
[13:59] <QueenVee> enohpelt: there, that wasn't so hard, was it?
[13:59] <reticuli> lol
[13:59] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in eno?
[13:59] <enohpelt> Europe, near italy
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[13:59] <reticuli> near italy?
[13:59] <QueenVee> and you hadn't heard about the Stromboli volcano?
[13:59] <reticuli> is that a country?
[14:00] <enohpelt> Seems like etna is not alone... I tought stromboli was "off" some time...
[14:00] <enohpelt> reticuli: Slovenija
[14:00] <enohpelt> from where are you guys?
[14:00] <reticuli> seattle
[14:00] <reticuli> USA
[14:00] <Dsarith> Dallas TX
[14:01] <QueenVee> Enohpelt: Ka ku je?
[14:01] <enohpelt> Anyone  from EU ?
[14:01] <enohpelt> ;))) hahahahaha @ queen ;)))))))
[14:01] <enohpelt> kaku je
[14:01] <enohpelt> is a dialect ;)
[14:02] <enohpelt> Kako je? :)  
[14:02] <enohpelt> dobro hvala
[14:02] <QueenVee> hehe
[14:02] <enohpelt> Nice, now you have impressed me .)
[14:02] <QueenVee> :-)
[14:02] <enohpelt> From where are you Queen?
[14:02] <QueenVee> Ontario Canada
[14:03] <QueenVee> are you in a safe area, eno?
[14:04] <enohpelt> Safe? You mean ... volcano...
[14:04] <enohpelt> yes
[14:04] <QueenVee> safe during the poleshift
[14:04] <enohpelt> well... I guess so
[14:04] <enohpelt> Don't have any special place, if you're asking that
[14:05] <QueenVee> This is what ZT says about your area: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx181.htm
[14:05] <enohpelt> let me check
[14:06] <obany> hi Queeeeeeeeeeen
[14:06] <QueenVee> hi obany
[14:06] <enohpelt> good
[14:06] <QueenVee> you will need to relocate, eno
[14:07] <enohpelt> Not so bad news still ;)
[14:07] <enohpelt> I live near the alps
[14:07] <QueenVee> ah, ok
[14:07] <QueenVee> Eno: Obany is in the Netherlands
[14:07] <QueenVee> Obany: Eno is in Slovania
[14:07] <obany> aha
[14:08] <enohpelt> Slovania?
[14:08] <QueenVee>  Slovenija
[14:09] <enohpelt> ;)) lol better
[14:09] <enohpelt> I almost tought you were speaking about someone from Slovakia
[14:09] <enohpelt> ;)
[14:09] <QueenVee> haha
[14:09] <enohpelt> mess mess... I'm checking www & switching back
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[14:10] <QueenVee> obany: have you heard about the Stromboli volcano eruption:  Slovenija
[14:10] <QueenVee> doh
[14:10] <inkpen> hello
[14:10] <QueenVee> Stromboli eruption in Italy: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=77
[14:10] <QueenVee> hi inkpen -- did you kick/ban DrGreen yesterday?
[14:10] <obany> yes yes ... .. i know ... queenvee, ogmios mentiod it to me ... and a friend of mine also saw it on tv ..
[14:10] <inkpen> yes
[14:11] <enohpelt> I'm waiting for some news on the italian tv
[14:11] <QueenVee> he's a regular, serious guy, he was just fooling around when he came on....
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[14:11] <QueenVee> hello walt
[14:11] <walt> hi
[14:11] <inkpen> ok...i asked why he was in hear...he replyed the voices in his head
[14:11] <obany> updated also http://www.troubled-times.com/awakening/
[14:12] <inkpen> sorry
[14:12] <QueenVee> np
[14:12] <inkpen> i had no clue
[14:12] <reticuli> inkpen, he was just stoned prolly
[14:12] <walt> INK give them this site for voices  http://zapatopi.net/
[14:13] <walt> : )
[14:15] <QueenVee> obany: that email from nancy didn't come through....
[14:15] <QueenVee> just the "from" line
[14:16] <reticuli> mj-12 interference me thinks
[14:17] <QueenVee> mmm, no reply from obany -- they must have got him....
[14:17] <reticuli> lol
[14:18] <QueenVee> yes, i got that obany
[14:18] <QueenVee> is that it?
[14:18] <QueenVee> just one word
[14:18] <QueenVee> mmm
[14:18] <obany> yes
[14:18] <reticuli> well, you know he has met the mj-12 agent angelic, so its possible
[14:18] <reticuli> its not him
[14:19] <inkpen> oh not theyre pick us off one by one!
[14:19] <QueenVee> gotta take the dog out. be right back.
[14:19] * QueenVee is now known as Queen-away
[14:20] <inkpen> later
[14:20] <inkpen> brb...cooffee almost ready
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[14:24] <inkpen> walt lol...where did you get this site :)
[14:25] <reticuli> what site?
[14:25] <inkpen> http://zapatopi.net/
[14:25] <reticuli> oh, hehe
[14:25] <reticuli> long live cascadia
[14:25] <inkpen> heheh
[14:26] <reticuli> i thought the cascadia concept was dead
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[14:27] <inkpen> hi enohpelt
[14:27] <enohpelt> hi again
[14:27] <enohpelt> got a computer freez
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[14:44] <enohpelt> anyone knows what happened to www.cosmiverse.com?
[14:44] <inkpen> foobar
[14:44] <inkpen> fubar
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[14:45] <inkpen> hi cobainer
[14:46] <obany> hi
[14:46] <cobainer> real pictures of a hybrid http://www.members.cox.net/g0llum/
[14:46] <inkpen> no clue enohpelt
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[14:46] <enohpelt> rgr k
[14:46] <inkpen> lol
[14:51] <inkpen> thozess hobitzssz false! Tickzy liarz they iszzss, my prreciousss
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[14:55] <reticuli> anyone here fammliar with operation phoenix during the vietname war?
[14:55] <reticuli> vietnam
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[14:55] <inkpen> hia humvee
[14:55] <humvee> hiya ink
[14:56] <QueenVee> hi humvee
[14:56] <QueenVee> ret: what's operation phoenix?
[14:56] <QueenVee> inkpen: you've got gollum down pat
[14:56] <humvee> jus got bac fm proceedure at hospital  1 doctor & 2 nurses now planning 4 earth changews
[14:57] <QueenVee> ha, good stuff
[14:57] <inkpen> wb Qv
[14:57] <humvee>  never did get that gollum?
[14:57] <inkpen> wow i must be color blind
[14:58] <QueenVee> i had a long liquid lunch with my cousin today, who was previously merely open to the idea, and is now fully committed
[14:58] <inkpen> wow
[14:58] <humvee> good o - thats the way
[14:58] <reticuli> It was a horrific counter insurgency program in vietnam meant to ferret out VC support in south vietnam. Basically it used anonymous tips to round up and torture and murder people
[14:58] <inkpen> are you ok humvee?
[14:59] <inkpen> oh
[14:59] <reticuli> I was not surprised to hear that tom ridge, the homeland security fuhrer here in the states was associated
[14:59] <reticuli> http://www.counterpunch.org/ridge2.html
[14:59] <humvee> yes found nNO pollups so clean bill o health
[14:59] <QueenVee> ret: not surprising at all
[14:59] <QueenVee> hum: congrats
[14:59] <humvee> thnks
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[15:00] <Ogmios> hi
[15:00] <inkpen> hi ogmios
[15:01] <Ogmios> flooding in belgium
[15:02] <Ogmios> stromboli another active volcano
[15:02] <obany> yes i know
[15:02] <obany> i just saw it on tv about Belgium
[15:02] <obany> Dutch news
[15:04] <QueenVee> ogmios: do you have a link for the belgium news?
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[15:05] <Dsarith> Hi tied2
[15:05] <inkpen> hia tied
[15:05] <obany> QueenVee: i am well searching for it ...
[15:06] <tied2> hello ya all
[15:06] <QueenVee> hi tied
[15:06] <tied2> hi QV
[15:07] <inkpen> wow how very gloomy it is today
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[15:07] <tied2> get used to it
[15:08] <reticuli> lol
[15:08] <inkpen> OMG there must be like 500 crows swarmingeast
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[15:08] <tied2> any new news today?
[15:09] <obany> QueenVee: didn't find it as yet
[15:09] <QueenVee> inkpen: this is what my cousin was telling me today, that were she lives (in the country) they've got all these crows who have moved in, along with other kinds of animals
[15:09] <inkpen> yes very odd\
[15:09] <enohpelt> Has anyone a good link, or better, a .pdf or something about survival techniques? Possibly for different environments, sandy, forest, jungle, etc. etc.
[15:09] <QueenVee> tied: there has been a TON of news today, which i have posted up on the website: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[15:09] <inkpen> like something you would see in a disaster movei :)
[15:10] <QueenVee> eno: yes, just a second
[15:10] <enohpelt> ok, tnx :)
[15:10] <enohpelt> There's a Stephen King movie... starting with a crow ;)
[15:10] <inkpen> heh
[15:11] <QueenVee> eno: if you go to the POLESHIFT LINKS section of our website (on this page: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Web_Links), and click on GENERAL SURVIVAL SITES, you will find a wealth of sites that provide such information
[15:11] <enohpelt> The movie is about a virus which kills about 90% of earth population... odd again
[15:11] <QueenVee> very odd
[15:11] <enohpelt> ...can't remember the title
[15:11] <inkpen> i know what movie that is
[15:11] <enohpelt> Tnx for the link QV
[15:12] <inkpen> whats the name...
[15:12] <enohpelt> let me check
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[15:13] <QueenVee> hello ydgrasil, zod
[15:13] <zod> Hi there
[15:13] <inkpen> hia zod and ydrasil
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[15:13] <tied2> whats the differace in a cyclone and a hurricane?
[15:14] <QueenVee> dunno
[15:14] <inkpen> ones bigger?
[15:14] <QueenVee> zod and ydrasil: lots of news today, can be found here: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/
[15:14] <tied2> I think one crosses land
[15:14] <zod> OK
[15:14] <inkpen> ??
[15:16] <zod> A movie on, see you all another time
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[15:17] <inkpen> well gatta tidy and prepare some food brb
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[15:20] <enohpelt> http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/A1.html     <<< about hurricane, tropical cyclon, etc.
[15:20] <humvee> cyclone/hurricane/typhoon/yoronado  =  different parts of world mean almost the same thing
[15:20] <enohpelt> exactly ;)
[15:27] <humvee> enophelt what part of the gobe u at
[15:28] <enohpelt> Slovenija europe
[15:28] <enohpelt> near Italy
[15:29] <humvee> oh i thought maybe bec my last name hsa same ending & is holland - m in hawaii now though
[15:29] <humvee> yes i visited that area once
[15:29] <enohpelt> yes?
[15:30] <reticuli> r u dutch?
[15:30] <humvee> was on a floating university
[15:30] <humvee> first gen american but w/ german/holland roots
[15:31] <obany> humvee: dutch ancestors .. ah
[15:31] <humvee> yea alwasy looking 4 a solution 2 everything
[15:31] <enohpelt> ')
[15:32] <reticuli> r u dutch or slovenian eno?
[15:33] <enohpelt> Slovenian :)
[15:34] <humvee> what do u see as the prognosis 4 ur area re the shift?
[15:35] <Ogmios> i know some bosnian sentence
[15:35] <reticuli> massive death
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[15:35] <QueenVee> hello nightbird
[15:35] <Nightbird> Hi everyone
[15:35] <Nightbird> Hi Queen
[15:35] <reticuli> chirp
[15:35] <humvee> maybe moving to alps 4 a while
[15:36] <enohpelt> bad prognosis... at last I have the Alps close
[15:36] <enohpelt> Ogmios: shoot :)
[15:36] <humvee> ur area has a long history of people migrating about
[15:37] <humvee> I use t have some gypsy friends who were always on the move
[15:37] <enohpelt> quite, slovenija is geographicaly known to be very... hm, don't know the word... passable?
[15:37] <enohpelt> trade routes and stuff
[15:37] <humvee> yes if no shift i would come 4 a visit - lol
[15:38] <enohpelt> ;;;))))))LOl
[15:38] <Nightbird> Didn't the Alps have tidal bore before?
[15:38] <QueenVee> i have to move my computer to another room, necessitating a reboot. be right back.
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[15:38] <Nightbird> Or am I thinking of another group of mountains
[15:38] <enohpelt> bore? don't know the word
[15:39] <Nightbird> Enohpelt.. its where the water is forced through ravines carrying animals.. people etc in its path
[15:40] <humvee> Night Alps r very high & use to accomodating refugies
[15:40] <enohpelt> well, some low lands were created by ice slides, but the water is quite peacefull :)
[15:40] <Nightbird> Ok, Humvee.. I am pulling up that file
[15:40] <humvee> bore = water moving across
[15:41] <enohpelt> Nope, there are some strong rivers, but they're still not so big
[15:43] <enohpelt> Io worry about where to go to survive... I care more about what is going to be important to DO to survive.
[15:43] <Nightbird> Yes, your right.. no tidal bore.. but mountain building.. here is what it says
[15:43] <enohpelt> ...reading some survival guides
[15:43] <enohpelt> yep
[15:44] <enohpelt> mountains can get messy if there are earthquakes tough
[15:44] <Nightbird> or volcanoes within the ranges
[15:44] <enohpelt> Etna, Stromboli (italy booth)
[15:44] <enohpelt> not so close
[15:45] <Nightbird> Here is the rest of it.. it cut it off
[15:45] <Nightbird> sliding along as well as subducting under, the Eurasian Plate.
[15:45] <enohpelt> but still (I guess) there can be more volcanoes then...
[15:45] <Nightbird> Where is Vesuvius? Cayce warned about that one
[15:45] <Nightbird> thats in Italy isn't it
[15:46] <humvee> y
[15:46] <enohpelt> yes
[15:46] <enohpelt> It is spent if I'm not wrong
[15:46] <Nightbird> Fraid I am not up on my European Geography
[15:47] <humvee> I now keep an atlas on table here have refered 2 it much
[15:47] <Nightbird> What Cayce said was when Vesuvius goes.. watch for the BIG ONE in California within 3 months or was it the shift... been too long since I read it
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[15:48] <Nightbird> Hi HBO
[15:48] <HBO> hi everyone
[15:49] <HBO> anything new today?
[15:49] <humvee> calif 2 shear off in 3 locations in weeks just before shift eventually bringing LA harbor to 4 corners Colorado
[15:49] <Nightbird> Ok.. I guess vesuvius could be a warning to all that is to come then
[15:50] <Nightbird> that is if Cayce was right
[15:50] <HBO> but, THIS is just weeks before the shift, actually 20 weeks +or-
[15:50] <enohpelt> Well, at some point in history Vesuvius destroyed a whole city *pompey*
[15:50] <enohpelt> ;)
[15:51] <Nightbird> that was Vesusvius, Eh.. I see shows about it all the time on TV.. didn't realize it was the same volcano
[15:51] <HBO> 2 other Cayce end time predictions...
[15:51] <humvee> wen i went 2 Pompai Itally say volcanic rock people frozen in positions they were when Vesvious went off last
[15:51] <Nightbird> where they have dug out Pompeii
[15:51] <enohpelt> yes yesyes!
[15:51] <enohpelt> true
[15:52] <Nightbird> OK.. that is what I have seen Humvee.. only on TV though
[15:52] * obany goes now bye bye
[15:52] <HBO> changing of So Pacific region and raising of land across the world from there, which could be the raising island off the coast of Greece
[15:52] <Nightbird> Bye Obany, Love and Light to you
[15:52] <humvee> very famous and striking archelogical dig & display
[15:53] <Nightbird> Do you happen to know when it last went off?
[15:54] <HBO> damn, gotta go and feed the beast...tell QV I said hi :)
[15:54] <HBO> bye for now
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[15:54] <Nightbird> OK, HBO
[15:54] <enohpelt> arround 76ad
[15:54] <enohpelt> wait
[15:54] <Nightbird> I just looked it up.. says 63 AD
[15:55] <enohpelt> ok
[15:55] <Nightbird> damn, says 2 million people now live within the immediate vicinity
[15:55] <enohpelt> Napoli
[15:55] <Nightbird> another website says 79 AD for the eruption
[15:56] <enohpelt> vesuvio is near Napoli
[15:56] <reticuli> 79 AD
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[15:56] <Nightbird> 12, 000 websites about it
[15:57] <humvee> 79 ad, 1631,1945,2002 & 2003
[15:57] <Nightbird> lots of info.. too bad they don't agree on the date
[15:57] <Nightbird> 2002 & 2003?
[15:58] <enohpelt> then maybe is still active :)
[15:58] <Nightbird> it erupted this year, then?
[15:58] <humvee> they do pretty much I added 2003 to the list
[15:58] <humvee> Erupting just now
[15:58] <enohpelt> ;))
[15:58] <Nightbird> getting alot closer in dates
[15:58] <enohpelt> nope, that is stromboli
[15:58] <humvee> wonder why?
[15:58] <Nightbird> from 79 to 1631 is a long time compared to 1945 and 2002
[15:59] <humvee> yes Stromboli  but story on volcanos making noise & magma now
[15:59] <enohpelt> yep
[15:59] <Nightbird> Cayce died in 1945.. wonder if that date was counted as the major eruption.. if so then he missed that California Big One
[16:00] <humvee> last 7 years u have to forgive a volcano as is in alot of more sress w/px & all
[16:00] <Nightbird> the prediction missed
[16:00] <Nightbird> I noticed more seem to be going off
[16:00] <Nightbird> or they get more press
[16:01] <humvee> more than in the memory of man r friends the zetas say
[16:01] <Nightbird> I guess it could be I am watching for them, too...LOL
[16:01] <Nightbird> I believe them
[16:01] <enohpelt> Da allora si susseguirono numerose eruzioni, tra le più significative ricordiamo quelle del 1694, 1767, 1794 (che rase al suolo Torre del Greco), 1872 e 1906. L'ultima eruzione è stata nel 1944.
[16:01] <enohpelt> Il vulcano attualmente è in stato di quiete.
[16:01] <enohpelt> this is from an Italian site
[16:01] <humvee> u could get free energy with a little pipe over the hot rocks
[16:01] <Nightbird> too bad I don't know Italian
[16:01] <enohpelt> Il vulcano... in stato di quiete means that is now at peace
[16:02] <enohpelt> ;)
[16:02] <enohpelt> I do
[16:02] <enohpelt> eruzioni = erruptions
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[16:02] <humvee> an easy and fun language - night: stick around & we can learn it together
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[16:02] <enohpelt> hehe
[16:03] <Nightbird> OK.. I could learn Spanish very easily... doesn't look that different
[16:03] <enohpelt> I can understand alot of spanish because of Italian
[16:03] <humvee> say habla espanol
[16:03] <Nightbird> English, Italian, Spanish are all based in latin
[16:03] <humvee> I took Latin
[16:03] <Nightbird> muy picito..
[16:03] <Nightbird> I didn't..
[16:03] <enohpelt> quod tibi fieri non vis, alteri ne feceris :)
[16:04] <Nightbird> I used to work with alot of Chicanos
[16:04] <reticuli> nightbird, english is a germanic language that was latinized by the french speaking normans
[16:04] <Nightbird> Ok, I will take your word for it
[16:04] <dwander> no hablo espanol...solamente leerla....
[16:04] <enohpelt> french has also alot similiarities with italian-spanish
[16:04] <Nightbird> I am a far cry from a lingustic scholar.. very far cry
[16:04] <reticuli> french is a latin based language
[16:05] <reticuli> they are called romance languages
[16:05] <enohpelt> :) romance
[16:05] <Nightbird> I dropped out in the 10th grade
[16:05] <humvee> we will all have lots of tiume 4 r language hobbys in the aftertime
[16:05] <Nightbird> yes, if we make it
[16:06] <Nightbird> and who knows what language I will speak in next lifetime
[16:06] <humvee> by world standards the 10th grade is highly educated
[16:06] <Nightbird> or any here for that matter
[16:06] <reticuli> humvee you will have nothing but time for survival
[16:06] <dwander> language?? what of telepathy??  :)
[16:06] <Nightbird> I did take my GED 6 years later.. maxed parts of it..
[16:06] <humvee> exactly my point
[16:06] <enohpelt> ;))
[16:07] <reticuli> :)
[16:07] <Nightbird> But it was just from reading.. I am an informationaholic..LOL
[16:07] <Nightbird> My math sux.. even though I am a Numerologist
[16:07] <humvee> congrads
[16:07] <reticuli> lol
[16:07] <Nightbird> Thank you.. it was too easy
[16:08] <Nightbird> except the math... LOL
[16:08] <inkpen-choping> back
[16:08] <dwander> math/science is easy stuff...
[16:08] <inkpen-choping> hello
[16:08] <enohpelt> LOl
[16:08] <Nightbird> My husband is just the opposite.. he can figure faster in his head than I can with a calculator
[16:08] <Nightbird> Science is easy
[16:08] <humvee> bring a calculator & xtra cecharge batteries
[16:08] <enohpelt> ;))
[16:08] <Nightbird> so is social studies and english
[16:09] <reticuli> anything is easy if you are good at it
[16:09] <dwander> hehe...so go solve the social probs in the mid-east...:)
[16:09] <Nightbird> Hubby isn't very bright with reading comprehension though
[16:09] <Nightbird> yeah right...
[16:09] <humvee> I always like the sound of SOCIAL studies but still waiting
[16:09] <Nightbird> greater brains than mine have tried..
[16:10] <Nightbird> MIdeast is a religious problem.. not a social one
[16:10] <dwander> religion isn't social????
[16:10] <Nightbird> no
[16:10] <dwander> I always considered it just another social disease...:)
[16:10] <humvee> maybee in the aftertime communities will be much more SOCIAL
[16:10] <Nightbird> social is getting on with others
[16:10] <Nightbird> religion is about power
[16:10] <enohpelt> Mideast is not a "problem", we have "problem" everywhere
[16:11] <reticuli> nightbird, mideast problem is caused by economics and colonialism, religion is just a justification
[16:11] <dwander> societies are about power
[16:11] <dwander> as they currently exist, at least
[16:11] <Nightbird> they could work together on the economics.. if they could get past the religion
[16:11] <humvee> spirituality=religeon  really
[16:11] <reticuli> puhlease
[16:12] <dwander> maybe we could blow up Mecca and Jeruselam for them??  :)
[16:12] <Nightbird> Not in my opinion, Humvee.. spiritual is between you and God.. religion is rules.. preachers, powertrips, guilt and the rest of it
[16:12] <humvee> I think they will go during the shift & melt after just watch
[16:12] <Nightbird> I agree with you..
[16:12] <inkpen-choping> religeon=dogma spirituality=understanding subtliets of self and others
[16:13] <Nightbird> religion will be a thing of the past
[16:13] <dwander> don't count on it
[16:13] <reticuli> night, when you force people off their land and force them to live in prisions and work at menial jobs , humiliate them everday and use the legal system to oppress them then they will fight back.. thats has nothing to do with religion.
[16:13] <Nightbird> Then the 4th will be just as bad as this one
[16:13] <reticuli> or guilt
[16:13] <enohpelt> religion is our conprenhanding of reality
[16:13] <humvee> most will not think of those rules as time goes by & everyone sees them 4 wat they R
[16:14] <Nightbird> I agree with you, Humvee
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[16:14] <Nightbird> The Pope living in granduer.. doesn't help someone get to "Heaven"
[16:14] <humvee> i dont go by rules not & why would I ?
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[16:14] <reticuli> religion is used within a society to control people through alienation from their souls and its used by socities to oppress others, but that is only a justiofication which mystifies the true reasons for the conflict
[16:14] <enohpelt> You don't kill...
[16:15] <inkpen> wb qv :)
[16:15] <QueenVee> :-)
[16:15] <Nightbird> WB Queen
[16:15] <Nightbird> Religion controls through fear
[16:15] <inkpen> agreed bird
[16:15] <humvee> knowledge liberates thru freedom
[16:16] <QueenVee> my mother just told me she heard that a hammerhead shark attacked a young girl today in Australia
[16:16] <Nightbird> no fear... no control
[16:16] <enohpelt> modern religion has nothing to do with fear anymore
[16:16] <reticuli> ?
[16:16] <enohpelt> "fear" - like dictatorship
[16:16] <dwander> Islam isn't exactly 'modern'
[16:16] <humvee> love is the answer
[16:16] <enohpelt> :)
[16:16] <enohpelt> it is
[16:17] <QueenVee> Nightbird: that's why the person who has learned to overcome their fear is a free person
[16:17] <reticuli> whats the question?
[16:17] <Nightbird> I disagree with you Enoph
[16:17] <QueenVee> i also disagree with eno
[16:17] <dwander> most people just believe what they grew up with
[16:17] <Nightbird> Modern religion still preaches.. hell if you don't "do as we say"
[16:17] <humvee> unless they dont
[16:17] <reticuli> people are monkeys
[16:18] <enohpelt> Modern religion is religion of the modern society
[16:18] <humvee> i am a monkey and proud of it
[16:18] <reticuli> money is the modern cult
[16:18] <reticuli> we all worship it, it is as unreal as angels and devils
[16:18] <enohpelt> is a "way"... essence to our existence
[16:18] <Nightbird> Enoph.. with spiritual wisdom.. you don't need religion
[16:18] <humvee> $ soon tobe BARTER
[16:19] <enohpelt> i agree with reticuli, just that is money+unaware christianity
[16:19] <inkpen> does any one know how much a cb radio goes for these days?
[16:19] <Nightbird> Religion restricts, controls throough fear
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[16:19] <Nightbird> Ink, you can get a decent one at a truckstop for about 50 bucks
[16:19] <reticuli> religion is to spirituality as marriage is to sex
[16:20] <inkpen> ok thanx bird
[16:20] <inkpen> i need a long range radio
[16:20] <Nightbird> There are cheaper ones.. and better ones
[16:20] <humvee> wats wrong w/sex?
[16:20] <Nightbird> these are moblie units I was speaking of.. don't know about a base station
[16:20] <reticuli> huh?
[16:20] <reticuli> i dont know humvee, you said it
[16:20] <inkpen> humvee ABSOLUTLY NOTHING:)
[16:21] <enohpelt> ;))
[16:21] <humvee> relis to spirit as marr 2 sx  u said it first
[16:21] <PGill> that was a good analogy ret
[16:22] <humvee> the answer is they are all good or not depending what u do with them
[16:22] <inkpen> det could you pleaz define what religion means to you?
[16:22] <inkpen> ret
[16:22] <reticuli> there is nothing inherently wrong with sex.... marriage channels the urge to fuck into productive activities (ideally) in much the same way that religion is meant to channel our spirituality into socially productive ends. A human society where people fucked all day long or prayed all day long would soon die off
[16:22] <humvee> ultimately there is no good or bad only what work and what doesent
[16:23] <Nightbird> For I say we are all on the same journey, which is like that on an ocean. The destination is to become one with God. Each spiritual belief system and the way we conduct our lives is the vessel we are traveling in, on this journey.
[16:23] <inkpen> ok so religion is acting on your spirituallity
[16:23] <humvee> but what a way 2 go
[16:23] <reticuli> lol
[16:23] <enohpelt> And which God is the "true" one? :)
[16:24] <humvee> eno  YES SHE IS
[16:24] <enohpelt> ;)))
[16:24] <inkpen> but could that also apply to how you are oriented spiritually? a person who acts acording to their spiritual nature?
[16:24] <Nightbird> There are some of us who find the journey filled with great joy. Our vessel is sercure and we have confidence in ourselves. We are engulfed in love to and from others. The waters are calm and our course is steady.
[16:24] <reticuli> god is a symbol to allow us to communicate with one another about something we feel inside of us? it is not objectively real. In fact nothing is
[16:25] <reticuli> religion is a cultural activity
[16:25] <enohpelt> and a beliefe
[16:25] <enohpelt> believe
[16:25] <humvee> The whole being saved or any other version IS the ORIONTATION choise  it was jus hard 2 explain without giving it away
[16:25] <enohpelt> belief ? sob... should check a dictionary lol
[16:26] <reticuli> it relgated to a belief in the west becuase of the high degree of psychological alienation in our culture
[16:26] <reticuli> relgated = relegated
[16:26] <Nightbird> There are others who find themselves in stormy waters. They often go astray. Their journey is filled with fear, hostility and distrust. Although they seek the same destiny, their journey shall be much longer as they travel in troubled waters.
[16:26] <reticuli> who r you quoting?
[16:27] <reticuli> shirley maclaine?
[16:27] <Nightbird> As Jesus told Paul, " God's love is like sunshine, but there are many who choose to stand in the shade."
[16:27] <QueenVee> uh..... where did Jesus say that?
[16:27] <reticuli> lol, yeah white people get burned
[16:27] <humvee> dont u think all religeons r talking about ORIOTATION  when u remove the rules that got added
[16:27] <reticuli> what?
[16:27] <Nightbird> No, Nick Bunick from the book "The Messengers" by Julia Ingram and GW Hardin
[16:27] <enohpelt> i agree with humvee
[16:27] <QueenVee> humvee: all spiritual traditions do, but not organized religions
[16:28] <humvee> the choise to be "saved"  =  STO
[16:28] <reticuli> i for one refuse to stand in the sun all day long
[16:28] <reticuli> :)
[16:28] <Nightbird> Queen, this book is about Nck Bunick.. the reincarnation of Saul/Paul of Tarsus
[16:28] <humvee> most only act good on sunday kind of thing
[16:28] <inkpen> saved...that implys some one saving u...rescuing you, but you really 'save' yourself
[16:29] <Nightbird> I agree with Ink
[16:29] <reticuli> humans are inacapble of that
[16:29] <humvee> STS = 6 days per week
[16:29] <reticuli> if humans could save themselves then why would rteligion be around
[16:29] <humvee> yes u do through ur choice
[16:29] <inkpen> ret...controll
[16:29] <humvee> that is how all the higher orders of the univ word
[16:29] <Nightbird> The econd half of the book relates through hypnosis the life of Jesus as seen through the eyes of Paul
[16:29] <reticuli> lol, then how did religion develop?
[16:29] <Nightbird> second
[16:30] <reticuli> peopole are confused monkeys
[16:30] <Nightbird> desire for power.. Reticuli
[16:30] <humvee> u cant go further until u make the choice of ur ORIENTATION
[16:30] <enohpelt> I agere with Reticuli!! ;))))
[16:30] <enohpelt> totaly
[16:30] <reticuli> sure, but there are lots of forms of secular power, if people did not need saving then they would abandon themselves to religion nightbird
[16:31] <reticuli> oops, "then they would not abandon..."
[16:31] <Nightbird> Reticuli.. saved from what?
[16:31] <QueenVee> yeah, saved from what?
[16:31] <inkpen> look back to ancient times...have things really changed in terms of orginized religion? well aside from murdering those who dont follow you
[16:31] <reticuli> misery, alienation
[16:31] <Nightbird> Reticuli.. we do that to ourselves.. so saved from ourselves?
[16:31] <humvee> saved fm only thinking about them selves thats what
[16:32] <inkpen> or sell out your soul to greed selfishness in controll
[16:32] <reticuli> how do i do that to myself.... I need to learn a language to be a human... language is inhereltly alienating. I did not chose to be socialised, so how is that a choice?
[16:32] <humvee> first beings become sentient  they as they progress they become aware of other beings  a basic of the univ
[16:33] <Nightbird> Reticuli, we alienate ourselves from God.. we bring our own misery upon ourselves by that alienation
[16:33] <reticuli> how?
[16:33] <inkpen> bird, agreed
[16:34] <QueenVee> here is ZT on the subject of religion: http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b02.htm
[16:34] <humvee> I think there r beings without language etc that r here making crop circles because they r STO
[16:34] <reticuli> god is a religios concept anyway, bu your own definition nightbird that is just a way to control us
[16:34] <enohpelt> ret. go a good point. As we're born and go through few steps of socialization we aquire social morals and one is also religion
[16:34] * QueenVee sets mode: +m
[16:34] <QueenVee> The major religions of mankind, now and throughout the history of mankind, have almost invariably fostered an impression of selectivity - a theme that those holding to the beliefs taught, or those strictly adhering to the practices required, will be selected for special treatment both before and after death.
[16:34] <QueenVee> Of course this is entirely false, and purported only to secure and hold adherents. Christians are told that a few words spoken by a member of the religious elite, along with a sprinkling of water blessed by these same religious elite, is the ticket to heaven. We are speaking here of baptism. Absence of these steps damns non-Christians to hell. What nonsense.
[16:34] <QueenVee> Does the entity not earn their future path by the steps taken? Whom does such a belief benefit? Look to this to understand why this falsehood is promulgated. Those most insistent on holding out false hopes of an easy road in the future are those who benefit most directly from widespread belief - the religious elite, who in most cases are charging for their services.
[16:34] <QueenVee> Just so, throughout history, religious elites have required that their enemies be persecuted and eliminated, their bed be feathered, their followers submit to sexual advances, and their coffers be filled - all in the name of a glorious future for the faithful followers.
[16:35] <QueenVee> There is no right or wrong religion, only ignorant or enlightened practices.
[16:35] * QueenVee sets mode: -m
[16:35] <reticuli> Amen!!!
[16:35] <enohpelt> ;)))
[16:36] <Nightbird> Agree with that Queen.. Z's I take it
[16:36] <reticuli> hallelujia
[16:36] <humvee> oh wi