Session Start: Wed Jan 01 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <QueenVee> well, i've been aware of the poleshift since i was very young, from a variety of sources.... but discovered zetatalk about a year ago....
[00:00] <QueenVee> so none of it came as a surprise to me
[00:00] <QueenVee> i'd been expecting it sometime around the beginning of the millennium
[00:00] <QueenVee> but zetatalk put a firm date on it
[00:01] <Bruce> I read Sitchin's first book when it came out and I've been following the topic over the years
[00:01] <Bruce> I got interested in the Sumerian language for awhile.
[00:02] <Bruce> I think it was because I wanted to know what the language that the people he talked about used
[00:02] <Bruce> But that was years ago.
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[00:04] <QueenVee> wow, they've now gotten pictures of the damage on the Solomon Islands
[00:05] <QueenVee> after Cyclone Zoe stormed through
[00:05] <QueenVee> they describe it as "total devestation" http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone/index.html
[00:05] <Bruce> I can believe it.
[00:06] <QueenVee> and it's only just starting
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[00:08] <QueenVee> hello syferme, what brings you to this room?
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[00:08] <syferme> name attracts attention
[00:09] <QueenVee> wrong answer
[00:09] <syferme> where does your info come from?
[00:09] <Bruce> woops, he's toast
[00:09] <QueenVee> hehe
[00:10] <QueenVee> do you read?
[00:10] <QueenVee>  'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[00:10] <syferme> hey!! didnt say you were wrong?
[00:10] <syferme> ok!!
[00:10] <QueenVee> go to www.zetatalk.com
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[00:11] <QueenVee> i like it when they go quietly
[00:11] <QueenVee> HOLY SHIT!
[00:11] <QueenVee> breaking news....
[00:11] <fetus> wha?!
[00:11] <Bruce> Waht?
[00:11] <Bruce> er, what
[00:11] <QueenVee> 5.4 quakes in Alaska
[00:11] <fetus> oooo
[00:12] <Bruce> mainland or the aleutians?
[00:12] <fetus> http://www.emsc-csem.org/cgi-bin/ALERT_all_messages.sh
[00:12] <QueenVee> Southern Alaska and the Aleutians
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[00:13] <Valdrix> HNY!
[00:13] <Bruce> The Aleutians are famous for earthquakes
[00:13] <QueenVee> Happy Poleshift Year!
[00:14] <QueenVee> bruce: it's part of a pattern of quakes that we've been monitoring for some time
[00:14] <Bruce> I believe it
[00:15] <QueenVee> it was predicted that new quakes would hit any day now
[00:15] <QueenVee> in alaska, that is
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[00:19] <QueenVee> noactuality -- what brings you to this room?
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[00:20] <QueenVee> hello magnetos
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[00:20] <Bruce> I''m knocking off for tonight.  
[00:21] <QueenVee> okay, nite bruce
[00:21] <Bruce> nite
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[00:25] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room, Bill?
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[00:46] <TrinityofLight> HAPPY FUCKIN NEWYEAR!!!!!!!!!!!
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[01:10] <obany> for those who are here best wishes
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[01:15] <humvee> hello happy new year still 2 happen here in 40 minutes
[01:17] <humvee> zzzzzzzzz
[01:18] <obany> aha hawai
[01:18] <humvee> rite how was ur new years
[01:19] <obany> good good not finished yet but it was good
[01:19] <humvee> excelent!
[01:23] <obany> going to eat something... woke up about 24 minuts ago
[01:23] <obany> went to bed aroun 3:00am or so
[01:23] <humvee> ur time?
[01:25] <obany> 10:26am
[01:25] <humvee> is a good new year & many happy returns obany
[01:26] <obany> thnx thnx
[01:26] <obany> the same
[01:27] * obany will return later
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[01:45] <obany> sigh
[01:45] <obany> I'm sure some Zeta Drones are seeing this post, like Obany, who seems to be
[01:45] <obany> the most paranoid person I have ever witnessed (through the logs) and Dell,
[01:45] <obany> but if we could do this right, they wouldn't kick me off for a little while.
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[01:46] <obany> sigh
[01:46] <obany> again my name
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[03:02] <JLOfan> Anyone up
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[03:08] <obany> i was here kinda
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[04:41] <QueenVee> xxx
[04:42] <obany> hi Queen
[04:42] <QueenVee> hi obany
[04:42] <QueenVee> Happy Poleshifty Year
[04:42] <obany> a little wierd to say happy new year but best wishes i could give you
[04:43] <obany> queenvee : sigh
[04:43] <QueenVee> yes.....
[04:43] <QueenVee> i had lunch with my cousin the other day....
[04:43] <QueenVee> the one whose place in the country i will be at during the shift....
[04:44] <QueenVee> and she has an ex-boyfriend in BC who is an amateur astronomer with a big scope
[04:44] <obany> ah interresting
[04:44] <QueenVee> we're going to send him the coordinates and ask him to take pics
[04:45] <obany> Interresting, also give him the other info that's on the page what to look for etc....
[04:45] <QueenVee> oh, yes, for sure
[04:45] <QueenVee> the next time nancy gives new coordinates
[04:46] <obany> QueenVee: she already did gave some new coordinates also for february
[04:46] <QueenVee> oh, okay (duh)
[04:47] <obany> RA 4.35941 Dec 12.11749 Feb 09, 2003
[04:47] <obany> RA 4.35948 Dec 12.11813 Feb 02, 2003
[04:47] <obany> RA 4.36007 Dec 12.11875 Jan 21, 2003
[04:47] <obany> RA 4.36239 Dec 12.11946 Jan 13, 2003
[04:47] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword03m.htm
[04:47] <QueenVee> obany, i'm on a site that gives MIRC commands; it says to obtain a list of people who are on your ignore list you type the following: /msg x showignore....
[04:48] <QueenVee> but it doesn't say what "x" should be
[04:51] <QueenVee> damn, this site is giving me all kinds of bad commands
[04:55] <obany> QueenVee: there is a better way to show wich people are on your ignore
[04:55] <obany> let mee see
[04:56] <QueenVee> i would love to know if
[04:56] <QueenVee> know it
[04:57] <QueenVee> i put people on ignore, then i forget they're on ignore, and it causes all kinds of confusion
[04:57] <obany> to revome them /unignore nickname ... let me see what more i can find
[04:59] <obany> QueenVee: How do I put someone on ignore? How to remove them?  (top)
[04:59] <obany>   To put someone on ignore just type /ignore nick 3 To remove someone from your ignore list, type /ignore -r nickname 3
[04:59] <obany> http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/beg-faqs.html#16
[05:00] <QueenVee> grrrrrrrrr
[05:00] <QueenVee> i know that obany
[05:00] <QueenVee> but i have to know they are on my list before i can take them off
[05:01] <QueenVee> someone showed me once how to access my ignore list, so i know it can be done
[05:01] <QueenVee> just can't remember how
[05:02] <obany> file options ... highlight and then ignore ... it might also be next to the file options in the other menu
[05:02] <obany> but it's there
[05:02] <obany> in mirc
[05:06] <obany> since i don't have mirc over here , but well it's there
[05:07] <QueenVee> okay, it looks like a pop-up....
[05:07] <obany> try file options highlight
[05:07] <QueenVee> go to this page: http://www.ircbeginner.com/files/xw-popups.mrc
[05:08] <obany> ah that's a script
[05:08] <QueenVee> see where it says     ..Ignore List :/msg x showignore
[05:08] <QueenVee> i need to add that to pop-ups, yes?
[05:08] <obany> mmm nah does work in a different manner
[05:09] <obany> better try to follow my advice
[05:11] <QueenVee> obany: i did, there's nothing called "ignore" under File Options
[05:11] <obany> nah nah
[05:11] <obany> use hightligt
[05:11] <obany> highlight
[05:11] <obany> or messages
[05:12] <obany> else use one of the options in the menu next to file
[05:12] <QueenVee> what do you mean "use" it?
[05:12] <QueenVee> what do i do when i'm in there?
[05:12] <obany> choose one of those
[05:13] <QueenVee> under highlight, there's a big box where i can add or remove
[05:13] <obany> see if the window also contains another tab
[05:15] <QueenVee> it has a little box (Enable Highlighting), a big blank box, beside it ADD, EDIT, DELETE, UP, DOWN
[05:15] <QueenVee> when i click HELP, it says this:
[05:15] <QueenVee> Highlight
[05:15] <QueenVee> The highlight feature allows you to assign colors and sounds to incoming messages that contain certain words that you want to watch for.
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[05:19] <QueenVee2> obany: are youstill there?
[05:20] <QueenVee2> i got disconnected, and now i can' t reconnect via MIRC
[05:20] <QueenVee2> keeps telling me  "connection refused"...
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[05:22] <QueenVee> weird
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[05:30] <Ixtalan> Hello
[05:30] <QueenVee> hello ixtalan, what brings you to this room?
[05:30] <Ixtalan> Nibiru
[05:30] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[05:30] <Ixtalan> about a year
[05:31] <tex-away> QueenVee: that's 3 in a row
[05:31] <QueenVee> so whereabouts are you located?
[05:31] <Ixtalan> NY
[05:31] <QueenVee> tex: three what in a row?
[05:31] <tex-away> early days
[05:31] <QueenVee> lol
[05:31] <QueenVee> damned dog
[05:32] <tex-away> better get used to it... it's starting to be a pattern
[05:32] <QueenVee> he's an old fella, just can't hold it anymore
[05:32] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: are you in New York City, or just NY state?
[05:33] <Ixtalan> Long Island....moving in 2 weeks to Midwest
[05:33] <QueenVee> very wise -- because of the poleshift?
[05:34] <Ixtalan> certainly...
[05:34] <QueenVee> good for you...
[05:34] <QueenVee> whereabouts in the midwest?
[05:34] <Ixtalan> I see that the movie The Core is due out in March 2003 ....little late ehh
[05:34] <QueenVee> yes, indeed
[05:35] <Ixtalan> Small town in Wisconsin
[05:35] <Ixtalan> Westby
[05:35] <QueenVee> nancy's state
[05:35] <Ixtalan> nesteled in a valley
[05:35] <QueenVee> good place to be
[05:35] <Ixtalan> I feel so
[05:36] <Ixtalan> Westby is up on the ridge....so its out of the missipi valley
[05:36] <QueenVee> sounds like you've got it all well in hand; are you on your own, or with a family, children?
[05:36] <Ixtalan> Girlfriend and animals
[05:37] <QueenVee> do you know about this chat group's website?
[05:37] <Ixtalan> Looking to get a Besengi dog
[05:37] <Ixtalan> yes
[05:37] <QueenVee> www.shift2003.com
[05:37] <Ixtalan> no
[05:37] <Ixtalan> lol
[05:37] <QueenVee> it's ok, it's the same site
[05:37] <QueenVee> we just got a domain name change
[05:37] <Ixtalan> ok...
[05:37] <Ixtalan> yes I have read it all
[05:38] <QueenVee> this is the old address: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/index.php
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[05:38] <Ixtalan> and found that I have belived it for a long time....without it being put together in the way it has
[05:38] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: oh, you're talking about the www.zetatalk.com site
[05:38] <Ixtalan> but I feel it is importaint to pull information from all different subjects
[05:39] <Ixtalan> yes
[05:39] <Ixtalan> ahh
[05:39] <QueenVee> absolutely!
[05:39] <Ixtalan> did not realize
[05:39] <obany> queenvee did you found your info yet about the ignore list?
[05:39] <QueenVee> well, check out www.shift2003.com
[05:39] <QueenVee> -l
[05:39] <Ixtalan> just added it to favorits
[05:39] <Ixtalan> 4 months now
[05:39] <QueenVee> :-)
[05:40] <obany> 5
[05:40] <QueenVee> obany: no, not yet
[05:40] <obany> 5 before the shift
[05:40] <QueenVee> obany: 4 months and 2 weeks
[05:40] <Ixtalan> its exciting.....
[05:40] <Ixtalan> even if its 2 years
[05:41] <Ixtalan> because I am not sure what else could usher life into the next age
[05:41] <Ixtalan> I sure dont want Nuclear fire....
[05:41] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: right there on the same page with ya
[05:41] <obany> Ixtalan: i know about it for more then 7 years now, in March of this year it will be 8 years since i first read that it will occur in 2003
[05:41] <QueenVee> a long time coming for you obany
[05:41] <obany> yes
[05:41] <Ixtalan> actually....it has been more then a year
[05:42] <Ixtalan> learned about it about 4 months before 911
[05:42] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: are you planning or hoping to hook up with other poleshifters in Wisconsin?
[05:42] <Ixtalan> they are there?
[05:42] <QueenVee> well, Nancy Lieder's there, for one
[05:42] <Ixtalan> I am sure I can be of help
[05:42] <Ixtalan> where abouts is she
[05:43] <QueenVee> well, today i will be launching a new section on our website, called NETWORK WITH OTHERS....
[05:43] <QueenVee> where people can hook up with others in the same area
[05:43] <Ixtalan> good deal...
[05:44] <Ixtalan> what city is she near?
[05:44] <QueenVee> if you give me your email address on a private channel, i can send you info about it; otherwise check the site tomorrow and the first profiles will be up....
[05:44] <QueenVee> that we don't know, Ixtalan
[05:44] <Ixtalan> I wonder if shes near Greys lake...
[05:44] <Ixtalan> lol
[05:45] <Ixtalan> They have pyramids at the bottom of a lake there
[05:45] <Ixtalan> its crazy
[05:45] <QueenVee> so far i have a profile from at least one person who lives in Wisconsin.... and once it gets going, there will be more....
[05:45] <QueenVee> really???
[05:45] <Ixtalan> yes
[05:45] <Ixtalan> really
[05:45] <Ixtalan> they say that they are older then the mounds
[05:45] <Ixtalan> old old
[05:46] <Ixtalan> but thats just what I heard from people who live there
[05:46] <QueenVee> Obany: AH HAH! I GOT IT!
[05:47] <QueenVee> Obany: you type this:  /ignore -l
[05:47] <Ixtalan> whats that
[05:47] <QueenVee> lol
[05:48] <Ixtalan> Did you hear about the Waves that made Italy evacuate the Island of Sardina today?
[05:48] <QueenVee> for the longest time i've been trying to figure out how to obtain a list of the people i have on "ignore'....
[05:48] <QueenVee> Ixtalen: yes, the waves that were started by the volcano
[05:48] <Ixtalan> They were caused by volcanic landslides
[05:48] <Ixtalan> yes
[05:48] <Ixtalan> lol
[05:49] <Ixtalan> and they expect more
[05:49] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: you'll have a hard time beating me to the punch when it comes to poleshift news...... ;-)
[05:49] <Ixtalan> starting 2003 off right
[05:49] <Ixtalan> I am allways looking
[05:49] <QueenVee> i have an article about that on our website
[05:49] <obany> QueenVee: i ain't that bad either :)
[05:49] <QueenVee> obany: you are the king
[05:49] <Ixtalan> we are all in this together
[05:49] <QueenVee> we all bow to obany
[05:50] <Ixtalan> hows the sun been?
[05:50] <QueenVee> obany is  kind of elder statesman of zetatalk (even though he is a young man)
[05:50] * tex-away so we have a King and a Queen
[05:50] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: well, i don't pay a lot of attention to the solar flares....
[05:50] <QueenVee> because ZT says their effects are being exaggerated
[05:51] <Ixtalan> they have been pretty nuts
[05:51] <QueenVee> text: hehe
[05:51] <obany> QueenVee: well young, 31 :)
[05:51] <QueenVee> obany: a toddler
[05:52] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: so far there are two people Wisconsin-related people who have submitted profiles -- one who has recently relocated there, and one who is in the process of relocating there
[05:53] <Ixtalan> wow ....you do have tons of news
[05:53] <Ixtalan> do you know where they are ?
[05:53] <Ixtalan> abouts?
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[05:53] <QueenVee> hold on Ixtalan...
[05:54] <QueenVee> hello sotos
[05:54] <QueenVee> Happy Poleshift Year
[05:54] <sotos> hello :)
[05:54] <Ixtalan> Hello ......LOL
[05:54] <sotos> same to you hhehe
[05:54] <Ixtalan> It is a happy year
[05:54] <Ixtalan> lol
[05:54] <Ixtalan> been a long wait......
[05:55] <Ixtalan> us old souled virgos a have exausted our patience with this world
[05:55] <Ixtalan> .......
[05:55] <Ixtalan> Its harder to live in everyday
[05:56] <Ixtalan> Its nice to see that there will be relief soon......humans living again......
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[05:57] <sotos> Yesterday I was saying to friends and everybody "happy new year and good poleshift". :)
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[05:58] <QueenVee> yes, Ixtalan, i agree
[05:58] <Ixtalan> that warms my soul
[05:58] <QueenVee> we Leos are equally impatient with this world -- no one listens to us anymore!
[05:58] <QueenVee> hehe
[05:58] <Ixtalan> tell me about it....
[05:58] <Ixtalan> lol
[05:59] <QueenVee> i have had some very very close Virgo friends, i know the sign well
[05:59] <QueenVee> you are the caretakers of the universe
[05:59] <Ixtalan> It would be nice for me to play my traditional astrological role in a post Babylon world
[05:59] <Ixtalan> IT will
[06:00] <obany> did you read that tt-watch email yet from Jeremy about England
[06:00] <Ixtalan> yes the pattern
[06:00] <QueenVee> well, Leos can't but help play their traditional roles, we're compulsive
[06:00] <QueenVee> obany: yes, indeed
[06:00] <obany> floods
[06:00] <Ixtalan> lol....it would be nice for leos to run free as well
[06:00] * from_Texas time to go to the office for awhile
[06:00] <Ixtalan> wiil
[06:00] <Ixtalan> will
[06:01] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: i am an odd bird, astrologically speaking: Sun in Leo, Moon in Taurus, Libra rising
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[06:01] <Ixtalan> lol
[06:01] <QueenVee> obany and tex: what are your zodiac signs?
[06:01] <obany> i don't know my ascendant, but well i was born feb the 20th
[06:01] <obany> so well pisces
[06:02] <QueenVee> Capricorn
[06:02] <Ixtalan> lol
[06:02] <QueenVee> on the cusp
[06:02] <obany> altough there are others who say Aquarian ...
[06:02] <obany> at leat i am from the sea :)
[06:02] <QueenVee> wait, i'm confused
[06:02] <Ixtalan> Anyone ever noticed the Middle Earth / Earth reality ?
[06:03] <Ixtalan> from Tolken
[06:03] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: for sure
[06:03] <QueenVee> brb, coffee
[06:03] <Ixtalan> its just awesome how its comming out now.......just awesome.....too bad no 3 if it is 4 months away
[06:04] <Ixtalan> oh well ........we know how it ends....
[06:07] <QueenVee> exactly
[06:07] <QueenVee> yes, i just saw the second instalment last week
[06:07] <Ixtalan> yes....I enjoyed it...
[06:08] <QueenVee> a tale appropriate to our times
[06:08] <Ixtalan> I dont watch tv....so I did not have to suffer with the commercials spoiling everything
[06:08] <Ixtalan> Did u notice that they did not have any film footage for the films to be comming out in 2003?
[06:08] <QueenVee> no, didn't notice that
[06:09] <Ixtalan> Its wierd......
[06:09] <QueenVee> Obany: i think you are very much an Aquarian
[06:10] <QueenVee> Nancy was saying that the trailer for the movie The Core says something creepy at the end....
[06:10] <QueenVee> something like "The world is going to end in May 2003"
[06:10] <QueenVee> obany: do you remember what the line was?
[06:13] <Ixtalan> lol
[06:13] <Ixtalan> its funny
[06:14] <Ixtalan> they have said that so many times allready with movies
[06:14] <Ixtalan> and now....
[06:14] <QueenVee> yes, and now....
[06:14] <Ixtalan> hehe
[06:14] <QueenVee> i must think of a new phrase other than Happy Poleshift Year....
[06:14] <QueenVee> "happy" isn't the right word....
[06:14] <QueenVee> "Good Poleshift Year"
[06:15] <Ixtalan> Yes......the only thing that I am not ejoying is the rise in Anxiaty and Panic in the World...
[06:15] <Ixtalan> I am very sensitive to that
[06:15] <QueenVee> it is only beginning my frien
[06:15] <QueenVee> friend
[06:15] <Ixtalan> I know...
[06:15] <QueenVee> everything is increasing exponentially on a daily basis
[06:16] <Ixtalan> I can feel that it
[06:16] <Ixtalan> with out doubt....
[06:16] <Ixtalan> It extends my awake hours
[06:17] <Ixtalan> I am on a 35/12 sleep schedual
[06:17] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: what do you currently do for a living, if you don't mind my asking
[06:17] <Ixtalan> I dont workl
[06:17] <Ixtalan> Layed off.......
[06:17] <QueenVee> ah
[06:17] <Ixtalan> Tired of it
[06:17] <QueenVee> i hear ya
[06:17] <Ixtalan> so I am done
[06:17] <Ixtalan> no more being a slave
[06:17] <QueenVee> i hear ya
[06:17] <Ixtalan> I am lucky
[06:18] <Ixtalan> that the love of my life likes what she does and makes decent money
[06:18] <Ixtalan> and that she prefers me not to work
[06:18] <QueenVee> i hit that wall a year ago, quit my stressful, salaried, 16-hour-a-day job.... went freelance
[06:18] <QueenVee> actuallly, it's more like 2 years ago
[06:19] <Ixtalan> Its perfect timing for me......It is like we planed this before we were here.....well we did in fact...lol
[06:19] <Ixtalan> yes ......I did sales mostly...
[06:19] <QueenVee> yes, my life went the same way....
[06:19] <Ixtalan> I actually had a job at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter......
[06:19] <Ixtalan> 5 months before 9-11
[06:19] <QueenVee> circumstances caused me to leave Toronto (my home for 20 years) and move back to my hometown of London, Ontario to look after my mom when she was ill....
[06:20] <Ixtalan> I lived in Toronto......How is you mom..?
[06:20] <QueenVee> at the same time, a cousin of mine moved back to the area too, from BC....
[06:21] <Ixtalan> I love when life is Uncanny
[06:21] <QueenVee> when i was a kid i used to have dreams of her and i surviving some kind of a catastrophe together....
[06:21] <Ixtalan> I live my dreams .......
[06:21] <QueenVee> she now has a place in the country not far from here, in a perfect location for the shift
[06:21] <Ixtalan> nice
[06:21] <QueenVee> we're gonna ride it out together (with as many friends and family as we can persuade)
[06:22] <QueenVee> my mom is ok now
[06:22] <Ixtalan> Good....
[06:22] <QueenVee> she's a tough old bird
[06:22] <QueenVee> when did you live in toronto?
[06:22] <Ixtalan> when I was 3...lol
[06:22] <QueenVee> my mom is actually quite receptive to what i have told her about the shift....
[06:22] <Ixtalan> mine too
[06:23] <QueenVee> though i have not really told her how bad it's gonna be
[06:23] <Ixtalan> My Mom used to tell me stories when I was young...(as all moms do...lol)
[06:23] <Ixtalan> One she said about how two beautiful ppl came to visit her when she was 5
[06:23] <Ixtalan> one man
[06:23] <Ixtalan> one woman
[06:24] <Ixtalan> they took her on a craft
[06:24] <Ixtalan> made her change cloths
[06:24] <QueenVee> holy crum!
[06:24] <Ixtalan> then took her to a "green place" and fed her graps
[06:24] <Ixtalan> then told her it was time to go...
[06:24] <Ixtalan> she cried
[06:24] <Ixtalan> they siad
[06:24] <Ixtalan> dont worry you will be back
[06:25] <QueenVee> geez, what does she think about that now?
[06:25] <Ixtalan> When she moved to Idaho she told me that she saw that valley that she was in when she was a girl
[06:25] <Ixtalan> and that she knows that she should be there
[06:25] <QueenVee> wow
[06:25] <Ixtalan> yeah....she is a little to close to Yellowstone for me....
[06:25] <Ixtalan> but I think she will be allright....
[06:26] <Ixtalan> but when she told me that...
[06:26] <Ixtalan> she did not know about aliens
[06:26] <Ixtalan> lol the world did not know about aliens
[06:26] <Ixtalan> not like they do today
[06:26] <QueenVee> yes
[06:27] <Ixtalan> it was years later while researching and reading about other ppls similar experiances with "beautiful ppl" visiting them when they are children
[06:27] <Ixtalan> me on the other hand....
[06:27] <Ixtalan> never had that kind of experiance....
[06:27] <Ixtalan> as I would have a heart attack
[06:28] <Ixtalan> especially if immobilized
[06:28] <Ixtalan> lol
[06:28] <Ixtalan> I think they know that
[06:28] <Ixtalan> so we meet on more netural ground
[06:28] <Ixtalan> dream land
[06:28] <Ixtalan> not to really sound wierd
[06:29] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: not in the least weird, very similar to my own experiences with the zetas
[06:29] <Ixtalan> but I used to see shadows as a kid....they were blobs in the corners of the room and would race along the cieling/wall crack
[06:29] <Ixtalan> I used to send them racing ....
[06:29] <Ixtalan> with my thoughts
[06:29] <QueenVee> when i was younger, in my 20s, in was really into experimenting with consciousness, did out of bodies everyday, etc.....
[06:29] <Ixtalan> years later
[06:30] <QueenVee> sorry, continue
[06:30] <Ixtalan> I would dream.....and in those dreams I would see snapshots of shadow ppl (kinda looked like the bic man) running through my life....
[06:30] <Ixtalan> before I lived there
[06:30] <Ixtalan> I know figure that it was me that I was telling to race
[06:31] <Ixtalan> now
[06:31] <Ixtalan> I never done one.....
[06:31] <Ixtalan> obe
[06:32] <QueenVee> everyone does them all the time, they just don't do them consciously
[06:32] <Ixtalan> anyway
[06:32] <Ixtalan> yes
[06:32] <Ixtalan> that I agree with
[06:32] <QueenVee> i learned to do them consciously is all
[06:32] <Ixtalan> I am not sure that I need to do that........
[06:32] <Ixtalan> as I Remember everyday and living it allready
[06:33] <Ixtalan> .......perpetual preminitions
[06:33] <QueenVee> well, that was a period of my life where i needed affirmation and confirmation of what i was experiencing....
[06:33] <Ixtalan> I understand
[06:33] <QueenVee> it all eventually became too much....
[06:33] <QueenVee> and i consciously suppressed it all
[06:33] <QueenVee> in order to have a normal life
[06:33] <Ixtalan> yes
[06:33] <Ixtalan> that path does not bode in well with 16 hr days
[06:33] <Ixtalan> working for $$$
[06:33] <QueenVee> exactly
[06:33] <Ixtalan> lol
[06:34] <Ixtalan> well now
[06:34] <Ixtalan> we will have plenty of time
[06:34] <QueenVee> during that period, long before the image of zetas was well known as it is today....
[06:34] <Ixtalan> and perhaps more clarity as to what gifts we have.....
[06:34] <Ixtalan> and how to use them....
[06:34] <QueenVee> i used to see zetan faces when i meditated....
[06:34] <Ixtalan> really
[06:35] <Ixtalan> I see static
[06:35] <Ixtalan> and 3d shapes forming out of it
[06:35] <QueenVee> briefly, giving me reassuring messages, like not to worry about the future
[06:35] <Ixtalan> or a really high res portal opens up on a scene......and then closes....ever had that?
[06:35] <QueenVee> there was one in particular who appeared quite consistently and he once told me his name
[06:36] <QueenVee> Elpinor
[06:36] <QueenVee> anyways, one day was meditating on my bed, with my eyes open, trying to see images on the blank wall in front of me....
[06:36] <QueenVee> and a kind of trap door appeared on the wall, hinged at the top.....
[06:37] <QueenVee> as real as real can be
[06:37] <QueenVee> the door opened from the botttom, someone from the other side pushing it open....
[06:37] <QueenVee> and out climbs what i now know was a zeta
[06:37] <QueenVee> looking very pleased with himself
[06:37] <QueenVee> needless to say, I FREAKED
[06:38] <QueenVee> and the whole thing just evaporated
[06:38] <Ixtalan> lol
[06:38] <Ixtalan> awesome
[06:38] <Ixtalan> allways there......
[06:38] <QueenVee> since then i feel i've had an understanding with them -- i like you guys, i want to be in contact with you, but i just can
[06:38] <QueenVee> can't handle doing it consciously
[06:39] <QueenVee> end of story
[06:39] <Ixtalan> yes....I agree
[06:39] <Ixtalan> I belive
[06:39] <Ixtalan> I just dont need them poping out of metaphysical trapdoors all day long
[06:39] <QueenVee> used to feel them "around" a lot and that kind of animal fear would rise from the pit of my stomach, and i would say, no, no, no, i don't want to SEE you, okay?
[06:40] <QueenVee> then, weirdly, when i discovered zetatalk, that feeling of them being around, and the fear, just completely evaporated
[06:41] <QueenVee> a zeta could pop out of the wall now and i wouldn't think twice about it
[06:41] <Ixtalan> really...
[06:41] <QueenVee> yeah, really weird
[06:41] <Ixtalan> I need a note...
[06:41] <QueenVee> a very dramatic psychological change
[06:41] <Ixtalan> lol
[06:41] <Ixtalan> although I would love to sit and chat for a while
[06:42] <Ixtalan> they should leave me a sign......letting me know what time they plan to arrive
[06:42] <QueenVee> ha, yes
[06:42] <QueenVee> so you can prepare
[06:42] <QueenVee> but they are busy guys -- they show up on their schedule
[06:43] <QueenVee> and just expect you to DROP EVERYTHING
[06:43] <QueenVee> seriously, though....
[06:43] <Ixtalan> lol figures
[06:43] <QueenVee> there was this distinct point where i felt that they were "finished" with me....
[06:43] <Ixtalan> well I guess my schedual is open
[06:44] <QueenVee> and now i have this sense that they are off "elsewhere", very busy....
[06:44] <obany> i don't have any problems with them either in fact, the Zetas that is ... don't dind them scary
[06:44] <QueenVee> obany: ya, but i'm sure you'd like a little notice if one decided to climb out of your wall
[06:44] <QueenVee> lol
[06:45] <Ixtalan> I would find it interesting to monitor DMT levels.while someone is having an experiance
[06:45] <QueenVee> heck, a human climbing out of my wall would freak me out
[06:45] <Ixtalan> yeah
[06:45] <QueenVee> DMT?
[06:45] <Ixtalan> The Spirit Molocule
[06:45] <Ixtalan> Very interesting
[06:45] <Ixtalan> Very
[06:46] <Ixtalan> IT answeres a lot of questions
[06:46] <Ixtalan> DMT is the most powerfull psycoative on the face of the earth....
[06:46] <Ixtalan> and it exists in all life
[06:46] <QueenVee> mmmmm
[06:46] <Ixtalan> Our primary release is from our Pineal gland
[06:47] <Ixtalan> although
[06:47] <obany> let me tell you, that exierences are not caused bye DMT ..
[06:47] <Ixtalan> if the Pineal is damaged anyother organ can synthesize it
[06:47] <Ixtalan> well
[06:47] <Ixtalan> hold on
[06:47] <Ixtalan> I just have a though
[06:47] <Ixtalan> t
[06:47] <Ixtalan> The Pinieal is the seat of the soul
[06:47] <Ixtalan> the Third Eye
[06:48] <Ixtalan> in fact
[06:48] <obany> Ixtalan: wrong again
[06:48] <QueenVee> do tell, obany
[06:48] <Ixtalan> ....
[06:48] <obany> the soul is in the whole body
[06:48] <Ixtalan> yes
[06:48] <Ixtalan> hold on
[06:48] <Ixtalan> listen for a second
[06:48] <Ixtalan> Seat of the soul
[06:49] <Ixtalan> The Pineal is one of the first features to be recognized in a developing fetus
[06:49] <Ixtalan> in fact....
[06:49] <Ixtalan> the fetus has no sex untill DMT is released by the Pineal on the 48th day of gestation
[06:49] <Ixtalan> once that happens
[06:50] <Ixtalan> the fetus starts to develop more rapidly and the pineal gland recides into the skull
[06:50] <QueenVee> what does that have to do with the soul?
[06:50] <obany> Nothing
[06:50] <Ixtalan> sitting eventually between the two hemispheres of the brain....and being the only point that is touching both
[06:51] <Ixtalan> ever seen the art by Alex Grey?
[06:51] <Ixtalan> it has everything to do with the soul
[06:51] <obany> soul is neither male of female so what does it have to do with the soul
[06:52] <Ixtalan> The role the Sould decides it is going to play does have sex
[06:52] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: but what has it got to do with the Pineal gland?
[06:52] <Ixtalan> The Pineal Gland sits in the center of our brains.....
[06:52] <obany> Nothing..... the soul is not some kind of chemical procces in the body
[06:52] <Ixtalan> .....
[06:52] <Ixtalan> listen
[06:53] <QueenVee> are you saying the soul developes when the DMT is released?
[06:53] <Ixtalan> anything that happens in our body must take on a pysical form
[06:53] <Ixtalan> no I am saying that the soul enters the body when DMT is released
[06:53] <Ixtalan> and then is able to also leave when DMT is released
[06:53] <QueenVee> wrong again
[06:53] <Ixtalan> every Night
[06:53] <Ixtalan> no I am not wrong
[06:53] <Ixtalan> it is your BELIFE
[06:53] <QueenVee> ZT indicates that the soul usually enters the body AFTER birth
[06:54] <QueenVee> as do other sources
[06:54] <obany> QueenVee: right
[06:54] <Ixtalan> well yea...you dont just sit there
[06:54] <QueenVee> such as the Seth Material
[06:54] <Ixtalan> think about it like attachning your static line
[06:54] <QueenVee> the body is just a recepticle
[06:54] <obany> there are no lessons to learn etc ... when the child is still only sleeping, and eating and pooping
[06:54] <Ixtalan> What lessions ?
[06:54] <Ixtalan> we are here to remember
[06:55] <obany> every soul has lessons to learn . Ixtalan
[06:55] <QueenVee> mmm, i think that falls into the hocus pocus kind of myths about the astral cord and that kind of thing
[06:55] <Ixtalan> We know everything when were dead.......
[06:55] <QueenVee> the soul is 100% free of the body. period.
[06:55] <QueenVee> 'wrong again, ixtalan: we are here to forget. it's called the Rule of Forgetfulness
[06:55] <QueenVee> we can't learn our lessons unless we can focus in this particular lifetime
[06:55] <Ixtalan> We dont allways forget
[06:56] <QueenVee> no, but it would be pointless if we retained conscious knowledge of our complete self
[06:56] <obany> if someone has a out of body expierence that simply happens because of the DMT .. doh
[06:56] <QueenVee> it's like taking on a role in a play, it is necessary to lose yourself in the part for it to be convincing
[06:57] <Ixtalan> yes Queen....I know
[06:57] <Ixtalan> listen....
[06:57] <Ixtalan> You are tripping on DMT every NIGHT of your life....
[06:57] <Ixtalan> and when you die...
[06:57] <Ixtalan> The pineal DUMPS every last drop of DMT into your brain
[06:57] <obany> Ixtalan: you are simply wrong about the soul maybe not about DMT but about the soul yes
[06:58] <QueenVee> well, it's not that important
[06:58] <obany> Ixtalan: yes and that would be your explanation for the almost dead expierence
[06:58] <QueenVee> the mechanics between the body and the soul
[06:58] <obany> doh
[06:58] <obany> again
[06:58] <Ixtalan> yes....
[06:58] <Ixtalan> I am explaining the mechanics
[06:59] <QueenVee> as you understand them
[06:59] <Ixtalan> as much as I can.....
[07:00] <Ixtalan> and like I was saying
[07:00] <Ixtalan> I would like to monitor DMT levels during an encounter
[07:00] <obany> Ixtalan: but  why??
[07:01] <QueenVee> okay, Ixtalan, i want to know more about this theory -- is it connected to Chakras?
[07:01] <Ixtalan> as I do belive that if the soul is accepting contact with a 4th dimensional being ...then there has to be some chemical reaction to bypass the Thalimus (our lizard brain which filters reality)
[07:01] <Ixtalan> I think it would be definate proof of an encounter.....
[07:01] <Ixtalan> even if no one else in the room could see it
[07:02] <Ixtalan> If its personal that is the only way to detect it....
[07:02] <QueenVee> you might want to read this page from ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b19.htm
[07:03] <Ixtalan> I am not human
[07:03] <Ixtalan> no worries
[07:03] <Ixtalan> lol
[07:04] <QueenVee> ZT suggests that the Heart Chakra is the central element...
[07:04] <Ixtalan> I dont disagree
[07:04] <Ixtalan> at all
[07:05] <Ixtalan> one more thing on the pineal....
[07:05] <Ixtalan> All life forms have one
[07:05] <obany> but i think you misunderstand how contact works .. altough you are curious about it how it works
[07:05] <Ixtalan> in Lower life forms.....such as lizards...
[07:05] <Ixtalan> it is atually sensitive to light...
[07:05] <Ixtalan> and heat
[07:06] <Ixtalan> and as life forms become more complex emotional beings the pineal recides
[07:06] <Ixtalan> away from the light.....
[07:07] <Ixtalan> which is why it is released at night when we sleep.....when our MAO's are at their lowest levels
[07:07] <QueenVee> mmm, interesting, i had never read ZT on out of body experiences before. seems bang on.  http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b24.htm
[07:07] <Ixtalan> our brains love DMT ......in fact it only weighs 8 microns more then our brains food...Glucose....
[07:08] <QueenVee> i very much felt at the time, when i was younger and experienced them a lot, that they were a kind of "distraction" that i should give up....
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[07:08] <Ixtalan> And our brains eat it up
[07:08] <QueenVee> hello RN
[07:08] <rnthomas> Howdy
[07:08] <rnthomas> How goes it
[07:08] <Ixtalan> Hello
[07:09] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d22.htm  http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d20.htm  
[07:09] <obany> The spirit communicates to the mind by biochemical means, by inciting biochemical activity. It does so by adjusting itself to the density of the incarnated body and to the peculiar biochemistry of the life form. This feat is no more spectacular than tuning an x-ray machine to penetrate the thickness of an object. During each incarnation the spirit quickly familiarizes itself with its new physical body, and gets down to busines
[07:09] <Ixtalan> nice
[07:09] <Ixtalan> it is spectacular though....lol
[07:09] <QueenVee> good quote obany
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[07:09] <QueenVee> clearly there are quite a few chemical interactions going on
[07:09] <QueenVee> hey tex
[07:10] <tex-at-work> hey QV
[07:10] <obany> tex-at-work:  have you seen the latest planet x sightings update yet
[07:10] <Ixtalan> the 28th?
[07:10] <QueenVee> obany: are there jpegs and analysis yet?
[07:11] <tex-at-work> No
[07:11] <QueenVee> yes!
[07:11] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[07:11] <Ixtalan> yeah ....I was playing with that FITS viewer.....I dont know what Im looking at ...lol
[07:11] <Ixtalan> It needs to be a tad closer for me to make it out
[07:13] <Ixtalan> Amazing.....almost everysingle earth quake ....is 5.0 or greater.....
[07:13] <Ixtalan> it was not like that last year....
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[07:13] <Ixtalan> it would be a bunch of 2's and 3's .......and once in a while a 5....
[07:13] <Ixtalan> now its 5's everyday....
[07:14] <Ixtalan> with pepperings of 6's
[07:14] <Ixtalan> and a dash or two of 7's
[07:14] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: bear in mind that the quakes reported on our website are ONLY  those 5.0 and greater
[07:14] <QueenVee> there are plenty of smaller ones
[07:14] <Ixtalan> yes.....but I am talking the chart sheet
[07:14] <QueenVee> don't know of any 7s in the last year, Ix
[07:14] <Ixtalan> ?
[07:14] <Ixtalan> Alaska
[07:15] <Ixtalan> Indonesia
[07:15] <QueenVee> it got up to a seven?
[07:15] <Ixtalan> there were back to back 7's
[07:15] <Ixtalan> yes
[07:15] <QueenVee> i thought it was, like 6.8
[07:15] <Ixtalan> well thats after the USGS does some "readjusting"
[07:15] <Ixtalan> *wink*
[07:16] <QueenVee> i don't use USGS
[07:17] <QueenVee> i use: http://www.emsc-csem.org/cgi-bin/ALERT_all_messages.sh
[07:17] <QueenVee> obany: i find this page particularly compelling, re the images: http://www.emsc-csem.org/cgi-bin/ALERT_all_messages.sh
[07:18] <Ixtalan>  Large / Noteworthy Earthquakes in 2002
[07:18] <Ixtalan> January 2 -- Vanuatu Islands -- 7.3M
[07:19] <Ixtalan> March 3 -- Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan -- 7.4M
[07:19] <QueenVee> where are you getting these figures from Ix?
[07:19] <QueenVee> do you have a link?
[07:19] <Ixtalan> March 5 -- Mindanao, Philippines -- M7.5
[07:19] <Ixtalan> yes
[07:19] <Ixtalan> http://gldss7.cr.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/02_EVENTS/
[07:19] <Ixtalan> there are 10 more
[07:21] <QueenVee> i'm VERY surprised that the USGS is even reporting those
[07:21] <Ixtalan> wow there have been 30 quakes today....allready
[07:21] <Ixtalan> yeah....
[07:21] <Ixtalan> they kind of have to....
[07:21] <QueenVee> interestingly, the list ends around the time that the USGS started doing its serious underreporting of quakes
[07:21] <QueenVee> they only started the underreporting quite recently
[07:22] <Ixtalan> yes
[07:22] <QueenVee> very very interesting
[07:22] <Ixtalan> and I really noticed it with the 7.4 in Alaska...
[07:22] <Ixtalan> and there was another one 24hours later.....which was reported and now I cant fid
[07:22] <QueenVee> brb
[07:23] <Ixtalan> unless they are considering it a 7.0 after shock
[07:23] <Ixtalan> lol
[07:26] <QueenVee> the underreporting of quakes really shocked me
[07:26] <QueenVee> because it wasn't gradual
[07:26] <QueenVee> it was all of a sudden
[07:26] <QueenVee> and so OBVIOUS
[07:26] <QueenVee> begs the question: why would there be a need to underreport quakes?
[07:27] <QueenVee> Ixtalan -- thank you SO MUCH for directing me to that page
[07:27] <QueenVee> i've been ignoring USGS of late, and didn't expect to actually find something USEFUL there
[07:28] <Ixtalan> np anytime
[07:28] <QueenVee> you see all those quakes in Alaska/Aleutian Islands today?
[07:29] <Ixtalan> on the link you provided yes...
[07:29] <Ixtalan> not on the USGS....they have 8 listed....thats it
[07:30] <Ixtalan> for today....yours allready has 30
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[07:30] <QueenVee> wow, the visual on this page really shows how much PX has been on the move: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/dell22.htm
[07:31] <Ixtalan> that bright star to the left is our sun?
[07:32] <QueenVee> no
[07:32] <Ixtalan> oh ok...
[07:32] <Ixtalan> I was about to say....wheres it going
[07:32] <Ixtalan> lol
[07:32] <QueenVee> obany: what is the bright star to the left in the PX pics?
[07:32] <Ixtalan> come back....
[07:33] <obany> quenvee: moment
[07:34] <Ixtalan> and I also assume that our movement is playing a large role as to its travels acrosse the sky....
[07:34] <Ixtalan> hmm that makes sense now
[07:34] <obany> QueenVee: SAO 93912 that's the name of that star
[07:34] <Ixtalan> Space is insane....
[07:35] <Ixtalan> do any of you play online games...
[07:35] <Ixtalan> Earth and Beyond has proven to be a fun time killer......
[07:36] <Ixtalan> flying around space......they do a decent job at trying catch the scope of those massive bodies out there
[07:36] <Ixtalan> there is a twin star system....
[07:36] <Ixtalan> just nuts
[07:38] <QueenVee> obany: thanks!
[07:39] <Ixtalan> so what have they been saying on sci-astro debates....it dont look like much anymore
[07:40] <QueenVee> i don't follow it, ix -- obany could tell you
[07:40] <Ixtalan> Well I dont see them saying that much anymore......
[07:41] <QueenVee> the debunkers on tt-forums are just getting more shrill....
[07:41] <Ixtalan> lol have they resorted to being spelling police yet?
[07:42] <QueenVee> haha
[07:42] <Ixtalan> thats allways the last gun
[07:42] <QueenVee> yeah -- the water pistol
[07:42] <Ixtalan> lol
[07:42] <QueenVee> yeah? well, take that!
[07:42] <Ixtalan> trying to put out the wild fires of truth
[07:43] <QueenVee> hehe
[07:43] <Ixtalan> oh I wish I could take a 4 month nap
[07:43] <Ixtalan> like a bear
[07:44] <QueenVee> well, i don't know about you, but i've got a heck of a lot to do between now and then
[07:44] <obany> mmmm well just the typical thing, saying it's noise and then the name calling
[07:44] <Ixtalan> lol
[07:44] <Ixtalan> obany...
[07:45] <obany> Ixtalan: yes ... name calling
[07:45] <Ixtalan> yeah....I am trying to think of what else I need
[07:45] <obany> they found a new victim now
[07:45] <obany> me :)
[07:45] <Ixtalan> obany: lol
[07:45] * JurAFK is now known as Jurian
[07:45] <QueenVee> obany: you're not a victim unless you agree to be. you're just a target.
[07:45] <Ixtalan> true
[07:46] <Ixtalan> there are no victems
[07:46] <obany> target then
[07:46] <obany> i am their latest target
[07:46] <Ixtalan> lol
[07:46] <Ixtalan> so what else is there to do?
[07:47] <Ixtalan> I am going to buy some more salt
[07:47] <Ixtalan> its cheap enough....
[07:47] <obany> QueenVee: even a posting from someone who doesn't take zetatalk serious but yet want to enter the chat ... acting like he takes it serious etc
[07:48] <QueenVee> oh yeah, it's polarization, pure and simple
[07:49] <Ixtalan> QV could you please post that website again....that quake one...I forgot to add it and now its out of the scroll range
[07:49] <obany> QueenVee: there was also news that more people well in the Netherlands joined a enviromental organisations
[07:51] <QueenVee> ixtalan: http://www.emsc-csem.org/cgi-bin/ALERT_all_messages.sh
[07:51] <QueenVee> obany: interesting
[07:51] <obany> let me see if i still can find it
[07:51] <Ixtalan> thank you
[07:53] <obany> just only in dutch, there is no englisn news about it.. it was wel just national news
[07:54] <Ixtalan> uh-oh....Enviromental groups are on the FBI hit list for Terror groups....
[07:54] <Ixtalan> how conveinent
[07:54] <obany> In the Netherlands here
[07:54] <obany> we don't have a thing to do with the FBI
[07:55] <Ixtalan> that those thugs can now silently silence those pesky profit killers ....known as Enviromentalists
[07:55] <QueenVee> well, kids, i have to take the dog out, then do a little work around here....
[07:55] <QueenVee> i'll be back later
[07:56] <Ixtalan> later QueenVee
[07:56] <QueenVee> Ixtalan: feel free to idle here, but if you are not here, please change your nick to something like Ixtalan-away, or Ixtalen-afk
[07:56] <QueenVee> like this:
[07:56] * QueenVee is now known as Queen-away
[07:56] <Ixtalan> how did you do that?
[07:56] <tex-at-work> bye QV
[07:56] <Queen-away> otherwise i'll boot you off after a certain period of inactivity
[07:57] <Queen-away> ixtalan: just type the following:  /nick Ixtalan-away
[07:57] <Queen-away> try it
[07:57] <Queen-away> adios tex
[07:57] <obany> and then press enter
[07:57] * Ixtalan is now known as Ixtalan-away
[07:57] <Ixtalan-away> cool thanks
[07:57] <Queen-away> there ya be
[07:57] <Queen-away> now change it back
[07:58] * Ixtalan-away is now known as Ixtalan-upupandaway
[07:58] <Ixtalan-upupandaway> lol
[07:58] <Ixtalan-upupandaway> neat
[07:58] <Ixtalan-upupandaway> I allways wondered that
[07:58] <Ixtalan-upupandaway> thanks
[07:58] * Ixtalan-upupandaway is now known as Ixtalan
[08:00] <Ixtalan> ok later all
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[08:56] <West_coast> bbl
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[10:08] <Wee> hi
[10:08] <QueenVee> hello Wee
[10:08] <Wee> happy new year
[10:08] <QueenVee> Good Poleshift Year to you
[10:08] <Wee> ... or not depending on one's point of view
[10:09] <QueenVee> it extends to all eventualities....
[10:09] <Wee> How long have you been aware of the PS QV?
[10:09] <QueenVee> :-)
[10:10] <Wee> Did you have a party last night?
[10:11] <QueenVee> no
[10:11] <QueenVee> caught up on some work
[10:11] <QueenVee> went out to dinner at my uncles in the afternoon, but got home around 9pm
[10:11] <Wee> HOw pedestrian.
[10:11] <QueenVee> that's the way i likes it
[10:12] <Wee> I don't party much but some of my friends got pretty looped last night.
[10:13] <Wee> I'm starting to look forward to not working ... perhaps ever again. We'll probably head to our "secret location" around April 1
[10:13] <Wee> Beat the last minute rush
[10:13] <QueenVee> i year ya
[10:14] <Wee> I had one PS conversation at last night's party that started with my friend saying "oh, are you still worried about that PX nonsense?"
[10:14] <QueenVee> yeah, well....
[10:15] <Wee> As Sarah Connor says in Terminator 2 " Well, it's gonna seem pretty fucking real to you too on May 15, 2003"
[10:15] <QueenVee> ha!
[10:16] <QueenVee> yep, they'll be running to you for advice at that point
[10:16] <Wee> But they won't find me. I have a saying, if anyone finds me at my camp, they're probably lost.
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[10:16] <Wee> hi sotos
[10:17] <sotos> hi wee :)
[10:17] <Wee> wassup? hangover?
[10:17] <QueenVee> my cousin, who owns the country place where i will be riding out the poleshift, and i have an agreement: i've told her what to expect, starting with PX in the sky 7 weeks before, and at that point we quickly put my plan into place without questions asked.....
[10:18] <QueenVee> yesterday she said, honey, if that thing appears in the sky as you say....
[10:18] <QueenVee> i wont be asking ANY questions
[10:18] <QueenVee> hello sotos
[10:18] <Wee> Does she call you honey because you are a queen vee?
[10:18] <QueenVee> sotos: how are things on Knossos?
[10:18] <QueenVee> hahaha
[10:19] <sotos> Is it true that you can see the px with an amateur telescope?
[10:19] <Wee> what size?
[10:19] <sotos> very bad !!
[10:19] <QueenVee> no, because she's my cousin and we grew up together, and she's actually even tougher than i am and can get away with it....
[10:19] <sotos> 50 cm?
[10:19] <Wee> Knossos? Crete?
[10:19] <QueenVee> sotos: not yet
[10:19] <Wee> how many inches is 50 cm?
[10:20] <Wee> about 19 right?
[10:20] <Wee> Well, Steve's scope was only 11 inches, so it should be good.
[10:20] <sotos> today a 5 righter earhtquaqe hit a vilage "Agrinio" in Greece
[10:21] <Wee> 50 cm is the lens size?
[10:21] <QueenVee> Wee: the Knossos story is here: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=70
[10:21] <sotos> no no 50 cm is the phisical length
[10:21] <QueenVee> Wee: where do you get the idea Steve is using an amateur scope?
[10:21] <QueenVee> he's using the online services of an observatory in Arizona
[10:21] <Wee> I know.
[10:22] <Wee> I'm just trying to compare sizes.
[10:22] <Wee> What is the lens size sotos?
[10:22] <QueenVee> sotos: thank you for that news about the earthquake in Greece..
[10:22] <obaway> busy here in the house, because of newyearsday
[10:22] <sotos> but is catoptric telescope so the actual size should be 2,5 time more than the phisical. around 125 cm
[10:23] <sotos> 10 cm diameter of catoptric lens
[10:23] <Wee> that's just under 4 inches
[10:24] <Wee> can you do extended exposures to photographic plates?
[10:24] <sotos> is big ok. And my friend will give it to me to try to find px...thats why I am asking if its visible
[10:24] <Wee> do you have a red filter?
[10:24] <sotos> I have not idea but he shoul have some set with parts
[10:24] <Wee> lens size is still only about one third that of Steve's ... so
[10:25] <Wee> please keep us posted sotos, we need as much independent confirmation of PX as possible
[10:26] <sotos> yeah is too early to see something...
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[10:26] <Wee> yo scoob
[10:26] <scooby-atwork> hey
[10:27] <scooby-atwork> workin a full day today....
[10:27] <scooby-atwork> 10-10
[10:27] <Wee> that's zero time
[10:27] <scooby-atwork> lol
[10:28] <Wee> like the old Monty Python skit " why in my day, we had to get up a half hour before we went to bed, work all day and then our father would beat us with a broken bottle and we'd thank him for it."
[10:28] <scooby-atwork> rofl
[10:29] <Wee> scoob, we were just discussing sotos' 10 cm telescope and when it might see px
[10:29] <scooby-atwork> kewl
[10:30] <scooby-atwork> QV: just looking at the site and tried to follow a link to the story about terrorism vs. natural disasters
[10:30] <Wee> It seems to me that a lot of it depends on whether it can take extended exposures
[10:30] <scooby-atwork> and i got bounced to reuters.com's home page
[10:30] <QueenVee> scooby: mmmm, okay, i'll lookinto it
[10:31] <scooby-atwork> wee: i don't really know too much about taking those kinda pics....  :(
[10:31] <scooby-atwork> thanks QV
[10:31] <scooby-atwork> where are you sotos?
[10:31] <sotos> Athens
[10:32] <scooby-atwork> nice
[10:32] <scooby-atwork> happy new year everyone, by the way....
[10:32] <Wee> likewise
[10:32] <scooby-atwork> oppah!
[10:32] <scooby-atwork> sotos: have you seen the movie My Big Fat Greek Wedding?
[10:32] <sotos> happy new year scooby :)
[10:32] <scooby-atwork> very funny!
[10:32] <sotos> no hahah
[10:33] <scooby-atwork> you should
[10:33] <scooby-atwork> you will laugh hysterically
[10:33] <sotos> Is it greek production?
[10:33] <scooby-atwork> no
[10:33] <scooby-atwork> hollywood
[10:33] <QueenVee> no, canadian
[10:33] <scooby-atwork> about a greek woman who grew up in the states
[10:34] <scooby-atwork> oh, lol
[10:34] <sotos> I will find it at videoclub :)
[10:34] <scooby-atwork> what do i know about hollywood
[10:34] <QueenVee> i know the actress who wrote and stars in it
[10:34] <QueenVee> she is a candian who lives in toronto
[10:34] <scooby-atwork> kewwwwwl
[10:34] <Wee> QV is very proud of her Canadian heritage
[10:34] <QueenVee> Canada Rocks!
[10:34] <scooby-atwork> as she should be
[10:34] <Wee> My relatives are from Quebec, originally fled France during the Revolution.
[10:35] <QueenVee> cool
[10:35] <QueenVee> Quebec is a country until itself
[10:35] <Wee> Canada is the Grandmother country according to the Native Americans
[10:35] <Wee> older and wiser, with just a hint of the mystical
[10:36] <QueenVee> mmmmmm, i don't know about that....
[10:36] <Wee> I'm going to hike to Canada 5 years after the PS
[10:36] <QueenVee> but we are certain CALMER and more SENSIBLE than our neighbours to the south
[10:37] <Wee>  hmmmmm.....
[10:37] <scooby-atwork> a tad
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[10:37] <enohpelt> hi
[10:37] <scooby-atwork> hello
[10:37] <QueenVee> hello enohpelt
[10:37] <Wee> that's a big generalization ...not all Americans are the same
[10:37] <sotos> hi
[10:37] <scooby-atwork> how would one pronounce that nick?
[10:37] <Wee> just 99% of them!
[10:37] <scooby-atwork> wee: lol
[10:38] <scooby-atwork> ee-no-pelt?
[10:38] <QueenVee> Wee: aw now, you're being unfair, i'm sure it's no more than 96%....
[10:38] <Wee> I sometimes have trouble believing the USA is not firmly in the STS camp!
[10:38] * QueenVee bites her tongue
[10:39] <Wee> owch ... hope it's not bleeding
[10:39] <enohpelt> ')
[10:39] <enohpelt> How can someone distinguish a STS from STO person?
[10:40] <Wee> kick them in the shin and see what they do
[10:40] <enohpelt> ;;;;;)
[10:40] <enohpelt> I don't think that's a good test hehe
[10:41] <QueenVee> eno: well, to start, here's a description of the key characterizations of each orientation: http://www.zetatalk.com/orientat/o14.htm
[10:41] <enohpelt> :) QV, you give me good links allways .) tnx
[10:41] <obaway> enohpelt: check http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x17.htm
[10:42] <enohpelt> ok, i will tnx
[10:42] <Wee> I have a saying: Actions speak louder than words; reactions speak louder than actions. When something happens unexpected, I think that that is when STS or STO colors show through the most.
[10:42] <QueenVee> thanks obany, you beat me to it, i was looking for that link
[10:43] <QueenVee> Wee: i think you mean when people are under stress
[10:43] <Wee> I think I said what I mean AV
[10:43] <QueenVee> when the going gets tough, the STOs show their true colours
[10:43] <Wee> QV
[10:43] <QueenVee> (as do the STOs)
[10:43] <Wee> right
[10:44] <enohpelt> What if things get too rough and a person which is basicaly of STO colour gets scared too much to act?
[10:44] <enohpelt> Is that person still a STO?
[10:45] <enohpelt> I guess action is not the point.
[10:45] <Wee> STS or STO is a function of the spirit, but fear is a function of the mind-body
[10:45] <QueenVee> yes, action IS the point
[10:45] <QueenVee> the STO person does what is best for the whole, not for themselves
[10:45] <enohpelt> But not phisical action?
[10:45] <QueenVee> most selfishness comes from fear
[10:45] <QueenVee> yes, physical action
[10:46] <enohpelt> ok
[10:46] <Wee> selfishness comes from worry
[10:46] <QueenVee> most are in the category of UNDECIDED
[10:46] <scooby-atwork> QV: did you see this one?
[10:46] <QueenVee> if you don't do the STO thing in a given situation, it doesn't necessarily mean you are STS....
[10:46] <scooby-atwork> Islanders desert Italy's Stromboli after giant wave
[10:46] <Wee> worry is anxiety over needs; fear is anxiety over threats
[10:46] <QueenVee> just not STO yet
[10:46] <scooby-atwork> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/latestnewsstory.cfm?storyID=3049484&thesection=news&thesubsection=world
[10:46] <enohpelt> That is because the goal is not clear
[10:46] <scooby-atwork> ROME - Almost all the residents of a small island off Italy have left since a giant wave caused by volcanic activity crashed into a coastal village, a rescue services spokesman said on Tuesday. (Wednesday NZT)
[10:47] <QueenVee> scooby: yes, saw it, thanks
[10:47] <QueenVee> i'm determined to get this NETWORK WITH OTHERS section up before updating my NEWS SECTION
[10:47] <QueenVee> and i'm almost there
[10:47] <scooby-atwork> you go
[10:47] <Wee> scoob, what is the island's name?
[10:47] <scooby-atwork> Stromboli
[10:48] <scooby-atwork> About 260 people have left Stromboli, fearful of what the island's volcano might do next after it caused a massive wave to hit the village of Ginostra on Monday, injuring three people, damaging several homes and overturning boats.
[10:48] <Wee> am looking up in atlas now
[10:48] <Wee> that's sort of your neck of the world, sotos
[10:49] <Wee> is this related to Mt. etna?
[10:49] <enohpelt> probably
[10:49] <scooby-atwork> 3rd cousin
[10:49] <scooby-atwork> LOL
[10:49] <Wee> 3rd cousin with the Italians is like identical twins with anyone else
[10:50] <scooby-atwork> lol
[10:51] <Wee> My significant other is nursing a hangover and spending the day watching the Buffy marathon on FX.
[10:52] <Wee> I must go do some house cleaning. Will check back with you other cult droids later.
[10:53] <scooby-atwork> OK wee
[10:53] <enohpelt> cya wee
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[11:01] <tex-away> http://www.rambocam.com/sitedir.html
[11:03] <tex-away> tikopia island pictures
[11:03] <tex-away> slow loading site
[11:04] <scooby-atwork> interesting pics, tex...
[11:04] <scooby-atwork> thanks!
[11:04] <QueenVee> thanks tex
[11:06] <scooby-atwork> http://www.rambocam.com/gmsc.jpg
[11:06] <sotos> I ll be right back ....
[11:06] <scooby-atwork> wow!!!!!
[11:06] <scooby-atwork> ok
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[11:14] <QueenVee> hi edude
[11:14] <edude> hello qv
[11:14] <edude> how are you this day
[11:16] <QueenVee> not bad, yourself?
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[11:16] <QueenVee> hi DrGren
[11:16] <QueenVee> Green
[11:16] <edude> not bad
[11:16] <DRGREEN> hello everyone.
[11:17] <edude> heelo drgreen
[11:17] <DRGREEN> shit. No red persona in latest images? I'm really dissapointed. Everyday more and more doubts about 2003 kick in. No PX
[11:18] <QueenVee> well, i feel the opposite. i become more and more certain.
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[11:19] <DRGREEN> how?
[11:19] <DRGREEN> Signs sure do increase, but the latest images are bull
[11:19] <QueenVee> the images are not conclusive yet, that's all you can say
[11:20] <QueenVee> doesn't cause me to throw everything out the window
[11:20] <QueenVee> but i'm not here to convince you, you have to listen to your own gut instincts
[11:20] <DRGREEN> I understand, I wouldn't do that.
[11:20] <DRGREEN> throwing it all out.
[11:20] <DRGREEN> But the latest images do not show PX, and red is on USN
[11:20] <DRGREEN> as steve said.
[11:21] <DRGREEN> So, no red. Large planet becomes invisible suddenly.
[11:21] <QueenVee> there are so many variables
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[11:22] <DRGREEN> yes, could be to make it easier to find a PX with so many variables.
[11:22] <QueenVee> hello glenn
[11:22] <DRGREEN> But, I'll just wait.
[11:22] <QueenVee> glenn: what brings you to this room?
[11:22] <QueenVee> DrGreen: but i understand your impatience
[11:22] <QueenVee> :-)
[11:23] <DRGREEN> thank you.
[11:24] <QueenVee> Glenn: ARE YOU THERE?
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[11:27] <GlennAgain> hello-
[11:27] <GlennAgain> i could not figure out before, how to get my words onto the main screen...
[11:27] <DRGREEN> hey glenn
[11:27] <humvee> hello - welcome 2 the year o the shift - horse in China
[11:27] <GlennAgain> then i figured out you had to hit 'enter'
[11:28] <DRGREEN> haha
[11:28] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room, Glenn?
[11:29] <GlennAgain> have been monitoring the troubled times/zetatalk sites for a few years
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[11:30] <humvee> Question:  does anybody else get lost looking at pierre's precise finder star chart?
[11:30] <QueenVee> whereabouts do you live?
[11:30] <QueenVee> humvee: i don't even try
[11:30] <GlennAgain> but have heard little in the open source press about the 12th planet, other than the z.sitchen books...
[11:31] <QueenVee> nor will you
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[11:31] <QueenVee> if you're waiting for that....
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[11:31] <humvee> i keep looking at it w/no results  --  so ordered a used star atlas 2000 so i can figure out wat up
[11:32] <QueenVee> ANNOUNCEMENT: The Network With Others section of the website is finally up. Just click on the link on the main page of the site (www.shift2003.com), or go directly to the Networking Page: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=40
[11:32] <Magnetos> Five more months until destruction it would seem.
[11:33] <QueenVee> actually 4 months and two weeks
[11:33] <humvee> congradulations good job
[11:33] <Magnetos> I see.
[11:33] <QueenVee> humvee: please check out your page and test your email link by sending yourself an email
[11:33] <humvee> ok will do brb
[11:34] <Magnetos> 4 months and two weeks would be mid-April..
[11:34] <Magnetos> I thought it was going to begin in May--late May.
[11:34] <GlennAgain> what got me fascinated in the first place was a series of books i read years ago regarding past poe shifts--one that was probably responsible for the noah/gilgamesh floods
[11:35] <QueenVee> NO: January = 1 month; February = 2 months; March = 3 months; April = 4 months; May 15 = 2 weeks
[11:35] <QueenVee> Glenn: Velikovsky?
[11:35] <Magnetos> Opps, I was actually counting the month that it would begin in.
[11:36] <QueenVee> Magnetos: you have no idea how many people argue with me over that
[11:36] <Magnetos> lol
[11:36] <GlennAgain> read him 20 years ago or more, about collision of planets, but more recently, there has been serious writing about the origins of maps
[11:36] <Magnetos> It's something that's easy to make an error on.
[11:37] <GlennAgain> that include antarctica before it was covered in ice---ancient maps
[11:37] <Magnetos> I didn't know the exact date of the shift.
[11:37] <QueenVee> somebody even started arguing with Nancy about it in zetatalk last saturday....
[11:37] <Magnetos> I just knew May 2003 in general.
[11:37] <Magnetos> Really, Queen? That's just due to ignorance probably.
[11:37] <QueenVee> Glenn: yes, i know the maps you are referring to
[11:37] <Magnetos> As it was in my case.
[11:37] <QueenVee> Glenn: there kinda  hard to explain away
[11:38] <Magnetos> Last I read it was late May/early June.
[11:38] <Magnetos> So I simply rounded.
[11:38] <QueenVee> Magnetos: It has ALWAYS been May 15, 2003 -- has never changed
[11:38] <Magnetos> Actually, that's the first time I've read that. lol
[11:38] <Magnetos> And I remember clearly reading late May/early June months ago.
[11:38] <DRGREEN> Dammit, I so wish the armageddon to be as soon as possible. We need it. The world and humanity s crap. We need change. I wonder what I would do if nothing happens. Suicide probably.
[11:38] <GlennAgain> gotta go for now--a friend is knowcking on the door...bye
[11:39] <DRGREEN> bye
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[11:40] <Magnetos> I could imagine that more specific information has been given since I've last been to zetatalk.com though.
[11:40] <Magnetos> Yeah, DrGreen, it's time that us humans reach a higher level of consciousness.
[11:41] <DRGREEN> yes, and fast.
[11:41] <DRGREEN> I'm running out of patience. I truly think living after a non-event in 2003 is worse than having armageddon.
[11:41] <QueenVee> Magnetos: i repeat, it has ALWAYS been May 15, 2003. one of the reasons i trust in the material so much is that Nancy has never waffled on the date.
[11:41] <Magnetos> I agree, DrGreen.
[11:42] <QueenVee> well, one should prepare for the possibility as well -- but i agree, it would be pretty devastating
[11:42] <obaway> The same for me, and well i was convinced even before the pictures
[11:42] <obaway> in 1995 there was no troubled times, no pictures nothing yet
[11:42] <obaway> only zetatalk
[11:42] <QueenVee> yes, obany has first whining rights here....
[11:43] <Magnetos> Well, I'm not suggesting that the date has changed at all.
[11:43] <obaway> so if one would base his preparing and his moving on pictures alone .. sigh
[11:43] <Magnetos> Simply saying that the description of the general time period it would occur in was given to me as late may/early june.
[11:43] <Magnetos> That's not to say that the date wasn't May 15, 2003 all along.
[11:44] <obaway> don't let logic dictate whole your life
[11:44] <Magnetos> Perhaps I just failed to assimilate that information somehow.
[11:44] <obaway> trust your intuition
[11:45] <DRGREEN> My intuition has failed me many times before.
[11:45] <Magnetos> My intuition tells me to survive.
[11:46] <DRGREEN> of course we need the images, that's proof.
[11:47] <obaway> proof for what that there will be a pole shift, as i said i had to do it withouth those pictures, and i wasn't begging for pictures at that time ...
[11:47] <obaway> but yes, i can understand there are people who will seee the pix as proof
[11:47] <Magnetos> Okay, this is something I failed to understand while reading zetatalk..
[11:48] <Magnetos> I understand the the Earth will cease to rotate a day before the shift.
[11:48] <DRGREEN> Ah. No, I believe a poleshift will come, quite soon. I just need images to believe 2003.
[11:48] <QueenVee> yes, begin to slow down a week before
[11:48] <Magnetos> So a day before the shift, there should be a period of total daylight/darkness?
[11:49] <DRGREEN> a week before actually.
[11:49] <DRGREEN> 7 days of darkness, or day, depending on location.
[11:49] <Magnetos> Right.
[11:49] <obaway> i didn't had those pix at that time ... guess you and me differ on that issue
[11:49] <Magnetos> Good, good..
[11:49] <DRGREEN> I'm carsick, so I guess the rotationstoppage would make me rotationsick.
[11:50] <Magnetos> Seven days is all the time I need to get where I need to get, and collect who I need to collect.
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[11:50] <QueenVee> hello Spiff -- what brings you to this room
[11:50] <QueenVee> Magnetos: wouldn't count on that
[11:50] <DRGREEN> yes Mag, do not count on that.
[11:50] <Magnetos> I don't have much of a choice..have some obligations here as well.
[11:50] <DRGREEN> It'll be chaos everywhere.
[11:50] <SPiff> Discuss poleshift
[11:51] <DRGREEN> so spiff, discuss then :)
[11:51] <Magnetos> But I'll be resolved enough to realize what is going on and escape.
[11:51] <QueenVee> Spiff: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk>
[11:51] <Magnetos> And, if necessary, eliminate whoever stands in my way of survival. ;-)
[11:51] <DRGREEN> I can only wish you the best of luck my friend.
[11:51] <Magnetos> Thank you.
[11:52] <SPiff> QueenVee: 11 Years
[11:52] <DRGREEN> wow spiff.
[11:52] <DRGREEN> Zetatalk isn't that old :)
[11:52] <QueenVee> Spiff: okay, you've been aware of the poleshift for 11 years, but how long have you been aware of zetatalk?
[11:53] <Magnetos> He could be speaking of the poleshift alone though.
[11:53] <DRGREEN> but the knowledge of a poleshift is.
[11:53] <QueenVee> and what was your original source for information about the coming poleshift?
[11:53] <obaway> zetatalk started well at about Jan 1995
[11:54] <SPiff> I didn't know it was about the poleshift
[11:54] <DRGREEN> zetatalk?
[11:54] <Magnetos> Neither did I originally.
[11:54] <SPiff> I have been reading zetatalk for years by now
[11:54] <Magnetos> I read through zetatalk about a month before discovering information about the poleshift.
[11:54] <DRGREEN> go read it! lots if inforrmation, or, if 2003 comes to pass without armageddon, lots of BS.
[11:55] <DRGREEN> allright.
[11:55] <SPiff> I had some dreams in the beginning after a car crash
[11:55] <QueenVee> Spiff: so what part of the world do you live in, and what are you doing to prepare?
[11:55] <SPiff> that started the quest for the unknown
[11:55] <QueenVee> yes, a lot of us have had dreams
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[11:55] <obaway> and i know zetatalk since about feb of that year or so
[11:56] <Magnetos> I've had dreams as well that were suggestive of a poleshift.
[11:56] <obaway> when it was still small and on ISNI
[11:56] <obaway> ISCNI
[11:56] <SPiff> i have moved two years ago to the montains and away from the main citys in Scandinavia
[11:56] <SPiff> What ´ave you done?
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[11:57] <SPiff> I had a dream about that we said to people that the poles have moved but they denied
[11:58] <QueenVee> hello Humor -- what brings you to this room?
[11:59] <SPiff> So in the dream I sneaked inside a big ship but I was the only white person
[11:59] <QueenVee> fascinating, Spiff -- so which mountain range are you near?
[11:59] <Humor> Hello, QuenVee...nice to see you here.  I have waited all my life for this shift to occur.  I did not know what I was here for until I began reading ZetaTalk.  Thanks for all the work you all do!
[12:00] <QueenVee> thanx humor
[12:00] <QueenVee> humor: what part of the world do you live in?
[12:00] <SPiff> Scandia really near Norway
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[12:00] <Humor> Maryland...planning to relocate to Mountains in Virginia or Tuscan, Arizona.
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[12:01] <SPiff> QueenVee how long have you been aware of the shitf?
[12:01] <SPiff> "Shift"
[12:01] <QueenVee> Humor and Spiff: do you know about this group's website: www.shift2003.com
[12:01] <QueenVee> Spiff: since i was very young
[12:01] <Humor> Yes.  
[12:01] <SPiff> I have seen it for the first time yesterday
[12:02] <QueenVee> Spiff: had recurring dreams as a child about it, then read Cayce, then heard all about it from a local psychic that i studied with as a teenager.... but didn't know the exact date until i discovered ZetaTalk about a year ago
[12:02] <humvee> Queen checked email like it opened outlook but adder @yahoo is that correct?  (humvee@hawaiian.net@yahoo.net)
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[12:02] <Ralf> speaking of the website
[12:02] <QueenVee> hold on humvee
[12:02] <Ralf> there's going to be about a 10-minute interruption of service
[12:02] <QueenVee> Ralf: please dont give me bad news today
[12:02] <Ralf> not bad news
[12:02] <QueenVee> oh, that's okay
[12:02] <Ralf> i just need to move the server
[12:02] <Humor> I have been reading ZetaTalk and weekly session since September.  Even purchased the book.  Excited about all of this.
[12:03] <QueenVee> ralf: well, don't hurt yourself; bend from the knees
[12:03] <Ralf> it's in a bad spot, i keep kicking it
[12:03] <scooby-atwork> helicopters are not supposed to be able to do this:
[12:03] <scooby-atwork> http://cache.techtv.com/binaries/2002/aggressive.wmv
[12:03] <Ralf> and flesh vs. metal is not good
[12:03] <scooby-atwork> ralf: yes, lift with your legs, not yer back
[12:03] <Ralf> lol
[12:03] <scooby-atwork> looks like DNS is all good too
[12:03] <Ralf> it's not *heavy*
[12:03] <scooby-atwork> btw
[12:03] <Ralf> yeah
[12:03] <Ralf> everything is working fine
[12:04] <Ralf> 12:13PM  up 35 days, 23:57, 2 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.04, 0.00
[12:04] <Humor> Good news..Ralf!
[12:04] <Ralf> ugh
[12:04] <QueenVee> well, anyone who is not currently on my mailing list and would like to be, just give me your email address in a private channel
[12:04] <Ralf> i don't wanna kill the uptime.
[12:04] <scooby-atwork> lo
[12:04] <scooby-atwork> l
[12:04] <Humor> Ok...QueenVee!
[12:05] <QueenVee> As of about 10 minutes ago, we just launched our new NETWORK WITH OTHER POLESHIFTERS section, which you may find of use: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=40
[12:05] <humvee> scooby link 2 media wont open
[12:05] <Humor> Thanks...QueenVee
[12:05] <scooby-atwork> OK.. will send other link
[12:05] <scooby-atwork> http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/showtell/story/0,24330,3406140,00.html
[12:05] <scooby-atwork> try that one
[12:06] <humvee> ok brb
[12:06] <SPiff> QueenVee: Have you moved to safe location yet?
[12:07] <QueenVee> Humvee: did you try sending yourself an email, and did you receive it?
[12:07] <QueenVee> Spiff: yes, i have
[12:07] <SPiff> Where about?
[12:08] <humvee> it added @yahoo 2 the end of my email address so thought would not work u want me 2 try like that?
[12:08] <QueenVee> i've lived in Toronto for the past 20 years, but about a year ago circumstances caused me to move (I thought temporarily) back to my hometown of London, Ontario to look after my mother who was ill at the time....
[12:08] <QueenVee> humvee: please try it
[12:08] <humvee> ok brb
[12:10] <SPiff> Good :-)
[12:11] <QueenVee> Humvee: no, that was an error. i've fixed it now.
[12:11] <habbak> is london ontario up near the hudson bay?
[12:11] <QueenVee> Spiff: like you, everything in my life seems to have been leading up to that
[12:11] <QueenVee> habbak: no!
[12:11] <QueenVee> habbak: that area will be flooded, completely under water
[12:11] <QueenVee> i am in southwestern ontario, near the Great Lakes
[12:12] <habbak> near thunder bay?
[12:12] <SPiff> Have you experience problem too speak with other about the poleshift?
[12:12] <QueenVee> habbak: no again, much further south, near the american border
[12:13] <QueenVee> Spiff: yes, of course
[12:14] <SPiff> Its not that many people that believes
[12:14] <Humor> SPiff...that is true.
[12:14] <habbak> what about the rocky mountains?...will they be safe?
[12:14] <QueenVee> well, it's a tough sel
[12:14] <QueenVee> sell
[12:14] <QueenVee> habbak: relatively
[12:14] <QueenVee> habbak: where are you?
[12:15] <Humor> Flew over the Rockies last week, looks pretty with the snow.
[12:15] <Ralf> ok folks
[12:15] <QueenVee> oh, ralf
[12:15] <QueenVee> are you shutting me down?
[12:15] <habbak> probably in a borderline area...near kokomo, indiana
[12:15] <Ralf> for a few minutes
[12:15] <Ralf> we will be back online ASAP.
[12:15] <Humor> ok..Ralf
[12:15] <QueenVee> okay, hold onto your seatbelts, folks
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[12:16] <habbak> but i have a plane...if it becomes clear that a poleshift is imminent...pack the shovel and fly into the rocky mountains
[12:16] <habbak> well...not into them...onto them
[12:17] <Humor> Do not forget to pack your ski's.habbak!
[12:18] <habbak> 1000gram thinsulate boots and thermal gear ready to go...
[12:18] <Humor> Exellent!  You will be warm after the shift!
[12:19] <QueenVee> Humor: where did you say you live?
[12:19] <QueenVee> Hello Kai -- didn't see you come in...
[12:19] <Humor> Maryland.  I will email you soon.
[12:19] <Kai> hello
[12:20] <QueenVee> Kai: what brings you to this room?
[12:20] <humvee> Link now shows only my name & worked a ok - thansk QV
[12:21] <Kai> well i came in here the other day..when nancy was here..
[12:21] <Kai> so i thought ied pop back in..
[12:21] <QueenVee> Kai: yes, that's a more formal situation, the saturday chats; this is informa.
[12:21] <Humor> Thanks for poppin in again..kai
[12:21] <Kai> np
[12:22] <QueenVee> Kai: you're in the UK, right? what part?
[12:22] <Kai> er south yorkshire
[12:22] <QueenVee> ah, spent some really lovely time cycling through Yorkshire
[12:22] <SPiff> Heard on the news about the rain flooded some streets in south UK
[12:23] <QueenVee> Spiff: yes, but Kai is in the north
[12:23] <Kai> im more up north
[12:23] <Humor> Later folks...work to do and to send my email to QueenVee.
[12:23] <QueenVee> bye humor
[12:23] <QueenVee> or as we say in canada, Humour
[12:23] <scooby-atwork> by humor
[12:23] <QueenVee> (silly American spellings)
[12:23] <habbak> didn't some hurricane force winds hit the uk a month or so ago?....just out of the blue?
[12:23] <Kai> bye
[12:24] <Kai> we had a earthquake here just out the blue a few months ago
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[12:24] <Kai> in the middlands area and round abouts..
[12:24] <Kai> a small one
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[12:24] <Kai> but it shook the house
[12:24] <QueenVee> yes, i remember that Kai
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[12:25] <habbak> i remember reading how hurricane force winds suddenly blew across england and killed a bunch of people awhile back...they were caught totally by suprise
[12:25] <Kai> oh yeah
[12:25] <Kai> that was like er last month or 2 that
[12:26] <QueenVee> Kai: i'm just reading that there are 121 flood warnings in place in Britain right now; they're expecting things to get pretty bad
[12:27] <Kai> its never flooded round here where i am
[12:28] <QueenVee> yes, they say it's concentrated in the south
[12:28] <Kai> a hwell
[12:28] <Kai> ah*
[12:29] <SPiff> One of my collegues was in london during the time and he said it sounded like a subway passing under the bed
[12:29] <QueenVee> Kai: so are you in a safe part of England? how are you preparing for the shift?
[12:31] <Kai> er ill be in penang when it happens
[12:31] <Kai> malaysia
[12:32] <sotos> QueenVee: Is there any info inside zetatalk about extraterestial propultion??
[12:32] <QueenVee> Kai: malaysia is not a good place to be....
[12:32] <Kai> so ive read heh
[12:32] <QueenVee> sotos: i don't know what you mean
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[12:33] <Kai> i have a pdf of what places are safe and whats not
[12:33] <habbak> has anybody noticed mars getting brighter every morning in the eastern sky?...i'm no astronomy expert....is that really mars?...lol
[12:33] <QueenVee> Kai: so if you are following through with your plan of being in malaysia at the time, you must not take it very seriously
[12:33] <QueenVee> hello Boy
[12:33] <BoY> hi
[12:34] <Kai> no, just the woman i love is there
[12:35] <habbak> ahhhhhh...at least you will be happy
[12:36] <habbak> maybe you will survive...
[12:36] <sotos> QueenVee: I mean how their ufos fly...  I can't find any info on that. If they could give us their technology we could be more safe. Or maibe they don't want to give it to us. How US military deal with zetas and we cant, in that aspect?
[12:36] <habbak> you might need some thermal gear
[12:36] <Kai> heh maybe
[12:37] <QueenVee> sotos: they are prevented from the Rules of Interference from giving us any technology
[12:37] <sotos> I don't understand really that
[12:37] <QueenVee> US Military were dealing with STS aliens many many years ago, before the Rules of Interference were imposed
[12:38] <sotos> i see
[12:38] <QueenVee> besides, the aliens didn't actually give them any technology
[12:38] <QueenVee> they agree to leave one of their ships....
[12:38] <QueenVee> so that they could try to figure out how they work
[12:38] <sotos> same
[12:38] <habbak> the sts aliens really messed with the military brass' minds
[12:38] <QueenVee> to date they have not figured it out
[12:39] <habbak> i have read some generals killed themselves...committed suicide
[12:39] <sotos> and all those antigravity testings??
[12:39] <sotos> Where they get the tech?
[12:39] <QueenVee> testings -- not successful
[12:39] <sotos> but most of sightings are people's
[12:40] <sotos> from earth
[12:40] <QueenVee> no, they are not
[12:40] <SPiff> I think you need to be a believer to drive one of this ships.
[12:40] <QueenVee> what makes you think that?
[12:41] <sotos> 1 sec
[12:41] <sotos> phonecall...
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[12:42] <SPiff> I have to get to bed work tomorrow
[12:42] <habbak> maybe aspects of their technology that cannot be comprehended with 3 dimensional existence
[12:42] <scooby-atwork> nite spiff
[12:42] <SPiff> I might tune in tomorrow fare well.
[12:42] <SPiff> Bye
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[12:44] <habbak> were the sts aliens messing with the military?...like giving chimpanzees a loaded pistol to play with?
[12:45] <QueenVee> no, like giving a chimpanzees an empty pistol...
[12:45] <QueenVee> and suggesting they figure out how to make the bullets for it
[12:46] <sotos> I have done alote of research about ufo tech and all shows me that many groups have the tech in their hands
[12:46] <habbak> ahhh....the proof remains in the pudding
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[12:46] <QueenVee> sotos: well, ZT says they don't
[12:46] <QueenVee> they have bits and pieces, but don't know how to put it together
[12:47] <habbak> i hope to gosh they don't have the tech
[12:47] <sotos> check that for example..http://www.personalflightsystems.com/
[12:47] <habbak> that would be like giving the chimps a loaded bazooka
[12:47] <sotos> they are almost ready to make those
[12:47] <sotos> I know that for sure
[12:47] <QueenVee> sotos: you are being very silly
[12:48] <sotos> Ok i would not say anything about ufos again sorry
[12:48] <habbak> look at what our government does now....uses nuclear waste to make bullets, invades and kills millions for oil, uses nuclear bombs on cities
[12:49] <sotos> and?
[12:49] <habbak> the sts aliens would probably have to kill us if they somehow figured out anything...lol
[12:50] <QueenVee> habbak: true enough
[12:50] <sotos> That does not proove that they don't have the tech
[12:50] <sotos> my opinion
[12:51] <QueenVee> Sotos: read this section on ALIEN TECHNOLOGY from ZetaTalk: http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r26.htm
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[12:52] <scooby-atwork> temporary loss of connection....
[12:52] <scooby-atwork> ack!
[12:52] <sotos> thank QueenVee...
[12:56] <scooby-atwork> anyone here remember pong?
[12:56] <scooby-atwork> here is a bowling game combined with PONG:
[12:56] <scooby-atwork> http://www.playtonium.com/games/pongling/pongling.htm
[12:56] <scooby-atwork> pretty cool
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[12:58] <habbak> what is up with the space station?....as in...why?
[12:59] <sotos> ok... all those ufo sightings... are from the same aliens or how many spieces of aliens?
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[12:59] <QueenVee> many different aliens
[12:59] <habbak> the wtiters of "the millinium group" have an interesting opinion
[12:59] <habbak> writers
[13:00] <QueenVee> hi WestCoast -- thankyou so much for your thoughtful email of the other day, much appreciated
[13:00] <West_coast> your welcome
[13:00] <QueenVee> :-)
[13:00] <West_coast> happy new year
[13:00] <QueenVee> opinion about what, habback
[13:00] <habbak> they say that soho and nears satellite imaging reveals an armada of alien ships surrounding the sun and earth...even jupiter
[13:00] <QueenVee> and a Good Poleshift Year to you
[13:01] <QueenVee> habbak: you mean the so-called "sun cruisers"?
[13:01] <West_coast> happak: an armada or ORCA?
[13:03] <habbak> they believe that this armada is here to carry out the judgement predicted in isaiah 13-14, 24 joel 2, revelation 6-7
[13:03] <QueenVee> oh lord
[13:03] <habbak> yes...the sun cruisers are part of it
[13:03] <QueenVee> religion tends to dull people's thinking...
[13:04] <West_coast> mellenium group has changed their tune, then
[13:04] <QueenVee> they could be ships....
[13:04] <habbak> joel 2:2 "a people come, great and strong, the like whom has never been;"
[13:04] <humvee> vehicles 2 carry away r souls - zot!
[13:05] <QueenVee> i'll stick to the more pragmatic-minded Zetas, thank you very much
[13:05] <West_coast> probably is a ship, or two...armada??
[13:06] <humvee> I wonder what they smoke?
[13:06] <QueenVee> indeed
[13:07] <QueenVee> ZT predicted that we would start seeing a halo effect around the moon (which has happened).... does anyone remember if ZT talked about "solar rings"?
[13:08] <habbak> joel 2:3 "a fire devours before them, and behind them a flame burns; the land is like the garden of eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; surely nothing shall escape them."
[13:08] <habbak> now that would take some alien tech
[13:08] <West_coast> haven't seen anything about solar rings...yet
[13:09] <West_coast> except during a few chemtrails
[13:10] <scooby-atwork> QV: i have been seeing lunar rings for a while... back to '95
[13:10] <scooby-atwork> they almost always coincide with upcoming rains
[13:10] <scooby-atwork> and looking for a solar ring is gonna be very painful
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[13:10] <Ralf> there we go
[13:10] <Ralf> all up and fixed
[13:10] <Ralf> i think
[13:11] <scooby-atwork> looks up from here
[13:12] <habbak> joel 2:10-11 "the earth quakes before them, the heavens tremble; the sun and the moon grow dark, and the stars diminish their brightness. the Lord gives voice before His army, for His camp (armada) is very great; for strong is the One who executes His word. for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible.; who can endure it?"
[13:12] <QueenVee> thanks Ralf
[13:12] <habbak> just the millinium group's opinion....who knows
[13:13] <Ralf> btw, your bouncer works again
[13:14] <QueenVee> mmmm, 3.4 quake in southern california
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[13:14] <QueenVee> ralf: bouncer?
[13:14] <QueenVee> hello domicile
[13:14] <Ralf> yeah
[13:14] <Domicile> Hi
[13:14] <Ralf> the thing that changed your hostname
[13:14] <QueenVee> ah....
[13:14] <QueenVee> Domicile: remind me what part of the world you're in....
[13:15] <Domicile> Wisconsin
[13:15] <QueenVee> ah, NancyLand
[13:16] <West_coast> :-)
[13:16] <Domicile> I think she's quite a ways away. I'm in the west central area
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[13:16] <airman_contagious_corpses_of_1> hello
[13:16] <Domicile> hello
[13:17] <Domicile> anyone getting into ham radio at all?
[13:17] <West_coast> thinking about it
[13:17] * Ralf is away: not here (l/p!on)[jrl@hsds.net] : os-2/bx
[13:18] <West_coast> troubled-times has some links and info
[13:18] <Domicile> Just bought a transciever and will take the test next Saturday
[13:18] <West_coast> you know morse?
[13:18] <Domicile> I checked them out but there isn't much.  You don't need to know the morse code for the Technicians
[13:19] <West_coast> oh
[13:20] <Domicile> QueenVee, where are you located at? Hows the group locations going?
[13:21] <QueenVee> Domicile: the NETWORK WITH OTHERS section is now up on the website, which now has a new domain name: www.shift2003.com
[13:22] <QueenVee> i'm in southwestern Ontario canada
[13:22] <habbak> queen vee...were you going to comment on the sun cruisers?
[13:22] <West_coast> would be nice to link PC through radio packet (short wave)
[13:23] <QueenVee> well, the images are unsual for sure; i've thought about asking nancy about them...
[13:23] <Domicile> Thanks, your website looks real good.
[13:23] <QueenVee> :-)
[13:24] <QueenVee> there are more profiles coming in all the time....
[13:24] <airman_contagious_corpses_of_1> hello
[13:25] <habbak> unusual name....:)
[13:25] <West_coast> airman: are you contagious?
[13:25] <airman_contagious_corpses_of_1> POST: 16027
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[13:26] <QueenVee> scooby: re solar rings: http://allafrica.com/stories/200212280002.html
[13:26] <QueenVee> WC: he's an odd bird
[13:26] <West_coast> oh
[13:27] <habbak> contagious corpses of 1....lol...ominous
[13:28] <sotos> see you later all ...Happy new year
[13:28] <West_coast> C U
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[13:28] <Domicile> bye
[13:30] <habbak> is airman a chemtrail pilot?
[13:30] <habbak> i wonder
[13:33] <Domicile> Lots of people in Florida wanting to move.
[13:33] <Domicile> from the network site
[13:33] <QueenVee> fer sure
[13:34] <habbak> really?....are real estate prices dropping?
[13:34] <scooby-atwork> QV: thanks for the link
[13:34] <habbak> so many economic reasons for dismissing nibiru
[13:34] <Domicile> QueenVee, are you all settled in for the most part.
[13:35] <habbak> they say the real estate bubble will be the last to pop.....and how
[13:35] <QueenVee> well, the location is in place, and the planning is fairly complete, ready to be implemented at the right time
[13:37] <West_coast> locatin is the hard part, I think
[13:37] <West_coast> location
[13:37] <Domicile> I've been floowing ZT nearly since it started. Researching and such. I had a long time to take action. I moved from St.Paul, MN out to the country of WI. Took a class at monolithic and made a dome.
[13:38] <habbak> what is your dome made out of?
[13:38] <obaway> Domicile: since it started... well it started in Jan of 1995 you know it since then ?
[13:38] <Domicile> Cement
[13:38] <habbak> sounds good
[13:39] <habbak> anybody ask you why you built a concrete dome?...:)
[13:39] <Domicile> Yes, regret not getting more involved with TT
[13:40] <Domicile> I live in a geodisic so it's not that unusual here.
[13:40] * obaway is now known as obany
[13:40] <obany> if you know it for that long .. i guess you know me too or ?
[13:41] <obany> since i know it well since it was just started
[13:41] <habbak> how well do pyramids survive poleshifts?
[13:41] <Domicile> Obany, maybe. Here's another dome I helped with. Theres six pages
[13:41] <habbak> obviously pretty well
[13:41] <QueenVee> habbak: take a look at the ones still standing
[13:41] <Domicile> http://www.alternativepower.com/pict4.htm
[13:42] <QueenVee> habbak: they were built by the annunaki to withstand poleshifts
[13:42] <habbak> sounds very believable
[13:42] <obany> Domicile: interresting page
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[13:43] <Domicile> That's me in the upper right pic. The one with the shirt on.
[13:43] <Domicile> http://www.alternativepower.com/pict4_C.htm
[13:44] <QueenVee> well, kids -- time to take the dog out for a walk
[13:44] <habbak> a very logical explanation for the pyramids....instead of some silly story about them being nothing but monuments and tombs built by slaves for centuries
[13:44] <scooby-atwork> see ya in a bit Queen V
[13:44] <Domicile> bye
[13:44] <QueenVee> habback: look up pyramids in ZT -- you'll find it interesting
[13:44] <QueenVee> be back later
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[13:45] <scooby-atwork> domicile: are you familiar with earthships?
[13:45] <Domicile> Spaceships?
[13:45] <scooby-atwork> no, houses built into the earth
[13:45] <scooby-atwork> http://www.earthship.org/edu/what.php
[13:46] <scooby-atwork> http://www.earthship.org/edu/international.php
[13:47] <scooby-atwork> basically, you take a bunch of used rubber tires and pack them with dirt
[13:47] <Domicile> Yes, there is actually someone making one in the vacinity. Very labor intensive
[13:47] <scooby-atwork> and then dig into the south side of a hill
[13:47] <scooby-atwork> and stack them up in a U shape
[13:47] <scooby-atwork> totally off the grid and no indoor heating/cooling req'd
[13:47] <scooby-atwork> south wall is all glass
[13:47] <Domicile> and pound sand in each tire
[13:47] <scooby-atwork> yup
[13:47] <scooby-atwork> where r u?
[13:48] <scooby-atwork> near Taos by any chance?
[13:48] <Domicile> In Wisconsin
[13:48] <scooby-atwork> lol
[13:48] <scooby-atwork> guess ot
[13:48] <scooby-atwork> not
[13:48] <scooby-atwork> i grew up in indiana
[13:48] <Domicile> I skied/skydived in Taos
[13:48] <scooby-atwork> and wisconsin sounds like a good place to be post shift
[13:50] <Domicile> There is not enough coordination with those preparing. Everyone is doing their own thing and being overwhelmed with work.
[13:50] <Domicile> A team together would work so much better.
[13:50] <scooby-atwork> are there many folks preparing in your area?
[13:51] <Domicile> No, but there are some who feel something may happen.
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[13:51] <humvee> more coop now as time is rite 4 comunication re arewa plans & cooperations
[13:51] <humvee> area plans etc
[13:51] <Domicile> Anyone who's into building monolithic domes certainly knows of the rumors
[13:53] <humvee> of concrete liquidifaction during the shift?
[13:53] <Domicile> When I was helping build one, a high ranking person from Fortt mckoy in WI came to see. They, at the time were planning on building 23 one hundred fifty footers
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[13:54] <humvee> looks like u used insteel foam panels for the shape 2 shot crete?
[13:55] <Domicile> Here's a discription. http://www.monolithicdome.com/thedome/index.html
[13:56] <humvee> I built a house here on kauai of 4x8' insteel foam panels that grid pattern is very familliar on ur site
[13:58] <Domicile> There was someone in the Hawaian islands who were going to build a bunch of monolithics. Although they knew nothing of PX and wanted them build near the shore.
[14:00] <humvee> 99% of everything habitable here is below 500' asl  we r calling them future REEFS
[14:03] <scooby-atwork> LOL
[14:04] <humvee> scoobr ur helocopter was cool took more than hour 2 load w/slo dialup but then they pay me - cheap
[14:04] <scooby-atwork> lol
[14:04] <scooby-atwork> i am at work on a high speed LAN
[14:04] <scooby-atwork> sorry hummer....
[14:05] <humvee> spiffy
[14:05] <scooby-atwork> next time i will link to a black and white stick figure drawing...
[14:05] <scooby-atwork> LOL
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[14:05] <scooby-atwork> http://www.stic-cil.org/images/blackboard.gif
[14:06] <scooby-atwork> lol
[14:06] <humvee> costs 100/month here - hav dialup clicked discount program 3 times on sign-up so sends me a ck ea month
[14:06] <scooby-atwork> what ISP?
[14:07] <humvee> hawaiian.net
[14:07] <humvee> local discount
[14:07] <Domicile> do you mean $10 per month?
[14:07] <scooby-atwork> must be
[14:07] <humvee> half off x3
[14:08] <scooby-atwork> $100 is a lot!  even for hi speed
[14:09] <humvee> yea need dsl +isp + service  or  cable + isp + net
[14:09] <scooby-atwork> ouch....
[14:09] <humvee> either way u pay 3 people
[14:09] <scooby-atwork> hmmm...
[14:09] <scooby-atwork> sux
[14:09] <humvee> dial up is cheap & good 4 wat i do
[14:10] <humvee> will mis it in may
[14:11] <Domicile> me too. I'm on the net a lot.
[14:12] <humvee> is addictive - lol
[14:12] <Domicile> Games are addictive
[14:12] <Domicile> 3D games
[14:12] <humvee> so r real things
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[14:13] <humvee> i look everything up immeadiately to get up 2 speed on breaking news & theorys
[14:14] <Bruce> Hello Hummer.  Looks like the queen bee is 'away'
[14:14] <humvee> hi bruce hows the easy plan going?
[14:14] <Bruce> QV didn't like me expounding on it
[14:14] <Bruce> she kicked me off of here for delving into odd ideas
[14:15] <humvee> saying planning is a spap & then u would just suc off other instead did sound a little shaky
[14:15] <Bruce> probably so
[14:16] <Bruce> what kind of plan does she favor?
[14:16] <humvee> we all get real as we think about this a bit more deeply - np
[14:16] <humvee> water-food shelter
[14:17] <Bruce> The problem seems to be how to get prepared to handle those things within the next four months
[14:17] <humvee> start as simple as u can what is the minimum i / we need 2 survive  1st then add more when that parts IS
[14:18] <humvee> where am i going to be
[14:18] <humvee> what should i bring there 1st
[14:18] <Bruce> After reading about what zeta said about the various cities and how they'll fare should be a prime consideration
[14:18] <humvee> if i had 2 move by foot could i do that
[14:18] <humvee> etc
[14:19] <Bruce> But you're on an island, so you can't go very far can you?
[14:19] <Bruce> On the other hand, it sounds like places near the ocean will fare well because there will be lots of fish there in the aftertime
[14:19] <humvee> i can either be able to move around here by foot  or
[14:20] <Bruce> You just have to get through the mile high tsunami
[14:20] <humvee> I could go to a spot off island I buy what i need 4 minimum needs
[14:21] <Bruce> You said there was a place on the island high enough to stay out of water didn't you? 3500 ft?
[14:21] <humvee> no itdal bore is water like tsumi just comming in not a wave
[14:21] <humvee> yes then later 2 move all down 2 fish etc
[14:21] <Bruce> Sounds like a good idea to me
[14:22] <Bruce> What do you do for a living?
[14:22] <humvee> build / fix whats broken
[14:22] <Queen-away> x
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[14:23] <humvee> u
[14:23] <QueenV> mmmmm
[14:23] <Domicile> for food I recommend lots of Power Bars. The PowerPlus and the Harvest bars are very good. High calorie, protien and vitamins.  No prep needed and stores very well.
[14:23] <humvee> what is ur work or talent?
[14:24] <Bruce> Mine?
[14:24] <humvee> yes wat do u do
[14:24] <Bruce> Right now I trade commodity futures (derivatives).  It's lucrative but hair-raising.
[14:25] <QueenV> Domicile: i wonder if you could buy those bars in bulk at a reduced rate
[14:25] <Domicile> sounds very stressful
[14:25] <Bruce> it is
[14:25] <Domicile> Yes, in Sams club. I bought lots
[14:25] <humvee> sounds fast pace  -  but not to grounded in hands on things
[14:26] <QueenV> Domicile: what's the cheapest you have been able to get them per bar?
[14:26] <Domicile> I had a job as a paramedic...very stressfull as well
[14:26] <Bruce> definitely not hands on.  All on paper done on the computer
[14:26] <Domicile> I think it's about $1.20
[14:26] <obany> and those bars for what purpose, as a source of food in the moment after thie shift?
[14:26] <humvee> para-medic experience will be invaluable however
[14:26] <Bruce> very
[14:27] <Bruce> That should be part of our preparation
[14:27] <Domicile> I don't know. We always had  technology, radios, meds, bandages
[14:27] <obany> i know some stuff about health etc. not that much but still
[14:27] <Bruce> but basic stuff like cpr, first aid, etc is important
[14:28] <humvee> in a community peoples contributions will be varied and complementry  -  with maybe the barter system  there u should shine as a trader
[14:28] <Bruce> my brother is into barter big time
[14:28] <Domicile> Being calm when things are wild is also very important.
[14:28] <humvee> i just got all my dental very expensive but was on barter so no $ involved
[14:29] <Bruce> I guess that's one advantage of pressure cooker trading all right
[14:29] <Domicile> he he
[14:29] <Bruce> my bro trades for everything you can imagine.
[14:29] <Bruce> he only uses money when he has to
[14:29] <humvee> if u can work ok under that pressure - when u slo down can be very much more on target
[14:29] <QueenV> gotta reboot. brb.
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[14:30] <Bruce> but then you can be bored if you don't have anything to do
[14:30] <Bruce> (except stay alive)
[14:30] <Domicile> Has anyone here had experiance with aliens at all?
[14:30] <humvee> believe me there will b more 2 do after
[14:30] <Bruce> According to my bro, bartering will be a crucial skill in the aftertime
[14:31] <humvee> Nanct so far
[14:31] <humvee> Nancy
[14:31] <Bruce> he thinks you can trade for anything you need
[14:31] <Domicile> I mean here in the group
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[14:31] <humvee> only if its available where u r
[14:31] <Bruce> I have not
[14:31] <butch> happy new years all:)
[14:32] <Bruce> yes.  you have to work with what you have to work with whatever it is
[14:32] <Bruce> but if you have a trading mentality it helps
[14:32] <humvee> MN & Wiss r states that will b effected less & so carry on just a bit easier
[14:32] <scooby-atwork> happy new year butch!
[14:32] <humvee> they it says on ZT b able 2 help other areas after the shift
[14:32] <Bruce> you can raise food there 'relatively' easier too
[14:32] <butch> how's it goin scooby?
[14:32] <scooby-atwork> werkin
[14:33] <scooby-atwork> you know...
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[14:33] <butch> yeah...gotta go back tomorrow myself...dreading it...lol
[14:33] <humvee> now ur thinking water-food shelter
[14:33] <Bruce> only problem MN and WI will be water
[14:33] <butch> hi Gothic_Fantasy01
[14:33] <Gothic_Fantasy01> Hello.
[14:33] <Bruce> On the other hand you have the great lakes there.  will they still be there?
[14:34] <Domicile> Hi
[14:34] <humvee> no anything above the lows like red river valley will b relitively good
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[14:35] <humvee> all of the Islands of America = US & Canada will be isolated areas after the shift
[14:35] <Bruce> I think the water table  isn't too far down there too but it's exposed to wind
[14:35] <humvee> The question is which part do i want to be in
[14:35] <Bruce> The Zeta rundown on cities says stay away from the big cities
[14:35] <humvee> higher places with a tie down should do fine
[14:36] <Bruce> I agree
[14:36] <Bruce> If it doesn't get washed away  Hawaii sounds pretty good
[14:36] <humvee> my dad is there now & is going 2 put sod on some low structures so wind goes over them
[14:36] <Bruce> That's a good idea
[14:37] <Bruce> That goes along with QV's mention of getting into a low trench of some kind at the moment it happens
[14:37] <humvee> every place has its problems - just have 2 read n plan for thoes things in ur area
[14:38] <Bruce> There are some places you definitely don't want to be, like southern Europe and the Caribbean side of S. America
[14:38] <butch> any coastal area is not a good place to be...
[14:38] <humvee> wind - quakes - gravel/fire falling - no air up higher than 5000' - water movement - rainy weather - vog = gloom fm volcanos
[14:39] <butch> sound like fun, huh, humvee...:(
[14:39] <Bruce> But in the aftertime, access to the ocean will be a good source of food
[14:40] <humvee> yea i cant wait - lol
[14:40] <Bruce> So like Hawaii, if you can be in a high area near a coast then come down to sea level in the aftertime, that should work
[14:40] <butch> yeah, but i wouldn't get near the coast until things settle down a bit...
[14:40] <Bruce> right
[14:40] <obany> hi butch
[14:41] <butch> hi obany...happy new years
[14:41] <butch> welcome to 2003...:)
[14:41] <butch> how've you been?
[14:41] <humvee> hawaii = completely cut off fm any supplys contact - trading al most all food now imported
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[14:42] <Bruce> Fish will be your big deal
[14:42] <Bruce> but that's okay if you can get some green nutrients like seaweed too
[14:42] <humvee> yes but no way 2 power boats must row out 2 fish but not far as current cant get back
[14:42] <obany> i am fine fine butch ...
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[14:43] <butch> good idea to get some hooks, lines, and maybe some netting stashed away...
[14:43] <Bruce> No place will be easy
[14:43] <butch> hi QueenVee
[14:43] <butch> happy new years
[14:43] <QueenVee> hiya butch
[14:43] <tex-away> !op QueenVee
[14:43] <humvee> what r u giong to do - pick a place & rent a house till no more rent due?
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[14:43] <QueenVee> thanks, tex
[14:44] <Bruce> Humv: Me?
[14:44] <humvee> then but food & supplies by urself or maybe with some others?
[14:44] <humvee> bruce yes
[14:45] <Bruce> I think I favor the ranch in Wyoming or Idaho idea personally.  I know of a couple that would work
[14:45] <Bruce> It would be like MN or WI you mentioned
[14:46] <humvee> friends there or just go & lease 4 now i think = simple plan
[14:46] <Bruce> If it were far away from big cities and had food and water there it should work
[14:46] <Bruce> I'd probably use the friends there option if I only have four months to work on it
[14:47] <humvee> yes i think planting after of low light tolerant veges having enough food 4 year maybe remember no refrigeration
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[14:48] <Bruce> what do you think of this idea:
[14:48] <Bruce> suppose just before May, say April
[14:48] * obany brb
[14:48] <Bruce> you use all the credit you can scrape together and buy a couple of containers of
[14:48] <humvee> then there is how 2 store all that food so it will not blow away / be available to get at seperate spots
[14:48] <Bruce> wheat.  THese would be truck-sized containers.
[14:48] <Bruce> The wheat would be in these metal shipping containers
[14:48] <humvee> u c what i mean a lot to do in 4 months
[14:49] <humvee> at some time money wont buy food any more - maybe
[14:49] <butch> correct, humvee
[14:49] <Bruce> It won't take a long time to order three trucks to haul the containers to Wyoming and dig a pit to park them in
[14:49] <Domicile> You need to bury your food. That way it can't be stolen or found out.
[14:50] <Bruce> Right.  Dig a pit (which takes 15 minutes) and put the containers in there
[14:50] <Domicile> Tree truck loads of wheat!
[14:50] <humvee> climate will b more like here & with constant rains everything stored improperly will MILDEW big time
[14:50] <Domicile> three
[14:50] <Bruce> yes. it would last a long time for just a family and wouldn't spoil
[14:50] <Domicile> Think of the mice
[14:51] <humvee> Domicile a hand wheat grinder?
[14:51] <Domicile> There would be thousands after your wheat
[14:51] <humvee> mill
[14:51] <Bruce> mice can't get into the steel containers
[14:51] <butch> hey...you can eat mice...;)
[14:51] <Bruce> extra protein
[14:51] <butch> yep..lol
[14:51] <Domicile> if you can catch them
[14:52] <humvee> the containers here beatles and mice get into on a regular basis they arent tight
[14:52] <butch> stock up on mousetraps...
[14:52] <Bruce> Each truck would cost abt $3,000
[14:52] <Bruce> You could put in a little mold inhibitor to prevent mildew and mold
[14:52] <Bruce> they do it all the time in tropical places
[14:52] <Bruce> very inexpensive
[14:53] <humvee> sounds good i thing the stuff we r shipping from here 2 family in US mainland will have 2 go soon or no delivery
[14:53] <Bruce> That's true, but you're going to use fish mainly
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[14:53] <Bruce> I think it takes a couple of weeks for containers to get to Hawaii
[14:53] <humvee> nothing is inexpensive when u add all u must do 2 make it happen - things will shortly fall apart fast
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[14:54] <humvee> we want 2 b in r safe location by February
[14:54] <Bruce> I thought you were already in a safe place
[14:55] <Bruce> don't you just have to stake out a spot at 3500 and hang onto something?
[14:55] <humvee> no there has been a dock strike I am still waiting 4 months noe 4 pinto beans i ordered in September
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[14:55] <Bruce> that's bad.  I hope you can fish
[14:56] <humvee> not much on fishing so far - 2 tell u the truth
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[14:56] <Bruce> Well, I have to go.  See y'all some other time.
[14:56] <butch> bye Bruce
[14:56] <humvee> bye bruce
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[14:57] <humvee> i think i wore him out
[14:58] <humvee> he is power trader elite - use to just giving the orders
[14:59] <Domicile> Hard to imagine someone like that here.
[14:59] <Domicile> QueenVee.
[15:00] <humvee> city dude comes 2 cow country in rental car for a plesent holiday
[15:01] <butch> where are you located, humvee?
[15:01] <Domicile> What does AFK mean?
[15:01] <humvee> in hawaii / island of Kauai
[15:02] <scooby-atwork> away from keys
[15:02] <Domicile> Are you near the airport in Kauai?
[15:02] <humvee> u butch?
[15:02] <butch> ah..nice...never been there...always wanted to though..:)
[15:03] <humvee> yes airport 18'asl here in Lihue4
[15:03] <butch> west virginia for now...thinking about moving back to virginia where i'm originally from...
[15:03] <humvee> it will b the first place 2 go
[15:03] <humvee> airport building will however make fien reefs
[15:04] <humvee> you can alwasy sail here after
[15:05] <scooby-atwork> bbl...  be back later...
[15:05] <Domicile> By that time I'll be in a space ship
[15:05] * scooby-atwork is now known as scooby-atlunch
[15:06] <humvee> good point
[15:06] <scooby-atlunch> one link b4 i go...
[15:06] <scooby-atlunch> http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/txt/al.html
[15:06] <scooby-atlunch> Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativit