Session Start: Fri Jan 03 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:01] <funkpen> !!??!!
[00:01] <funkpen> wha wha?
[00:01] <funkpen> anthrax in alberta?
[00:01] <funkpen> any deaths?
[00:03] <humming> edmonton canada package found in post office tested +
[00:03] <humming> no one sich so far
[00:03] <humming> but is anthrax
[00:03] <funkpen> hm
[00:04] <humming> got a loose cannon bioligist some where out in them woods
[00:05] <funkpen> wierd
[00:05] <humming> it aint natturally occuring from cattle when it comes by mail
[00:05] <funkpen> something to ask nancy
[00:05] <humming> good point do it
[00:05] <humming> sometimes this seems like aq cult
[00:06] <funkpen> O O!...i think i may have found a virus
[00:06] <humming> n we r all zetadrones
[00:06] <humming> i drive a zetavan
[00:06] <funkpen> and WHOW! we just had a funny power surg
[00:06] <funkpen> e
[00:06] <humming> i should put a big comet on the sides
[00:06] <funkpen> lol
[00:07] <humming> u hav a power strip
[00:07] <funkpen> all lights whent dim and fan (big) slowed quite noticabley
[00:07] <humming> px getting too close 4 comfort i guess
[00:08] <funkpen> mmm ja
[00:08] <funkpen> lol
[00:08] <humming> oh is coasttocoastam.com
[00:08] <humming> not eye glass site - lo
[00:09] <funkpen> lol
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[00:11] <humming> The what
[00:11] * Looking up The user info...
[00:11] <funkpen> hi the
[00:11] <The> heretic
[00:11] <The> prboly misspelled
[00:12] <The> eyes crossin   LOL
[00:12] <funkpen> excuse me?
[00:12] <humming> cuts - lol
[00:12] <The> what you no like the name?
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[00:12] <it> heheh
[00:12] <The>   :)
[00:13] <thoes> nick/ IT
[00:13] <it> is that your normal nick the?
[00:13] <it> lol
[00:13] <The> The heretic?
[00:13] <The> yeah in some circles
[00:13] <The> why
[00:13] <thoes>  
[00:13] <thoes>  
[00:13] <it> ive never seen you here befor
[00:13] <The> my second time to visit
[00:14] * thoes is now known as da
[00:14] <da>  
[00:14] <it> how do you stand with regard to the upcoming poleshift?
[00:14] <The> queen bitch kicked my lastime because I didnt talk
[00:14] * da is now known as humvee
[00:14] <The> dont guess she likes men
[00:14] <it> sorry but youl have to leave
[00:14] <The> I was here to learn something new maybe
[00:14] <The> but never got chance
[00:14] <humvee> should hav posted something - lo
[00:15] <The> LOL
[00:15] * The was kicked by it (The)
[00:15] <humvee> i have fat fingers type many letters at same time
[00:15] <it> hehe
[00:16] <humvee> do u believe ritual undercurrent at nasa/whitehouse
[00:16] <it> what is ritual undercurrent?
[00:16] <humvee> hoaglandtalk
[00:17] <humvee> r u listening
[00:17] <it> no radio downstairs
[00:17] <humvee> makes me want 2 call in
[00:17] <it> why not?
[00:17] <humvee> we hav radios in bathrooms even
[00:18] <humvee> talkradiorules
[00:18] <it> lol...have a shower and listen to art...hehe
[00:18] <it> yes
[00:19] <humvee> b careful use battery radio
[00:19] <it> mmm ya
[00:22] <humvee> hoagland is close 2 answer but does not quite see it
[00:23] <humvee> he thinks politics nasa symbolist has 2 do with Masr
[00:23] <humvee> he needs 2 focus on px annunaki connection
[00:24] <humvee> is mars centric
[00:24] <humvee> I will go n email him the answer - noe
[00:24] <humvee> bye
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[00:26] <Funk> power trying to go out
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[00:26] <Funk> VERY windy outside
[00:26] <Funk> ello? humvee?
[00:27] <Funk> musta left
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[00:54] <Funk> any one awake?
[00:58] <Funk> power flickers
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[01:06] <obany> hi and i will return later
[01:11] <Funk> okydoky
[01:12] <obany> http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,3367,1429_W_738063,00.html now this also
[01:12] <Funk> hmm, interesting...wee bit stormy here too :)
[01:13] <Funk> 170 kph is hurricane force, wow
[01:14] <obany> yes, wow... it's just not normal anymore ...
[01:14] <Funk> hehe wher are my manners
[01:14] <obany> but this was to be expected
[01:14] <Funk> hia obany and hia freddo
[01:14] <Funk> really?
[01:15] <Funk> freddo? you still here?
[01:15] <obany> bbl/brb
[01:15] <Funk> later
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[01:22] <Funk> wb obany
[01:22] <Funk> why the 2 clients?
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[01:25] <Funk> HELLO
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[01:29] <Funk> cmon
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[01:30] <Funk> there it is
[01:30] <Funk> hia humvee
[01:30] <Funk> wb
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[01:30] <humvee> hi funk is that u pen?
[01:31] <Funk> yep
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[01:31] <humvee> I just wrote a letter to fax to hoagland
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[01:31] <funkpen> nice...email?
[01:32] <humvee> no he only reads his morning fax  no public email
[01:32] <humvee> i connected a few of the dots 4 him
[01:32] <funkpen> what did you say?
[01:33] <humvee> the connection between annunaki and mars nasa leak 2 him & what it meant
[01:33] <funkpen> cool
[01:33] <humvee> the reason we are not ever planning 2 go to mars
[01:34] <humvee>  why the mars surveyer failed/shot down
[01:34] <humvee> that shoulb be enough
[01:34] <funkpen> i thought that nasa still were considering alternative 3?
[01:35] <humvee> told him re: images and link 2 shift2003 site re images link
[01:35] <funkpen> do you think he will believe that there are inhabitants on Iuo?
[01:35] <humvee> no they hav realized that they dont hav the option
[01:36] <funkpen> ok
[01:36] <humvee> someone at nasa sliped him enough 2 figure it out
[01:36] <humvee> he just has not quite seen the connect 2 px
[01:37] <funkpen> nasa knows about annunakis?
[01:37] <funkpen> ya
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[01:37] <obany> humwee: on that entrprisemission website of his is well a article that denies 2003
[01:38] <humvee> he has images but not seeing the link bet 12th planet ppl and mars and us ppl on earth
[01:39] <humvee> I know but he is the king of images so if he looks at steves pics he will b hooket - ZOL!
[01:40] <humvee> if he denies it we will know where he stands
[01:41] <humvee> i think he will b convinced
[01:41] <humvee> lol
[01:42] <funkpen> !hugle
[01:42] <funkpen> !huggle
[01:42] <humvee> rite
[01:43] <obany> http://www.artbell.com/afterdark/index.html will be a interview in the afterdark magazine with Nancy
[01:44] * obany is goint to drink some coffee will return later
[01:45] <funkpen> later o
[01:45] <humvee> yes how can we get a copy of that interview?
[01:45] <funkpen> im sure it will eventually turn up...
[01:45] <funkpen> if you dont want to pay for a full subscription
[01:46] <humvee> yes somebody on this chat will b a subscriber
[01:46] <funkpen> ill ask my local supermarket to buy some :)
[01:46] <humvee> = 2 bags of pinto beans
[01:46] <funkpen> lol...
[01:46] <humvee> beans r more powerful
[01:46] <funkpen> when is jan issue due out?
[01:47] <humvee> now
[01:47] <funkpen> I WANT!
[01:47] <humvee> we could all split it
[01:48] <humvee> we could ask nancy 2 post it
[01:48] <funkpen> all we need is a scanner and we could all have it :)
[01:48] <humvee> exactly my point
[01:48] <funkpen> you think she really subscribes?
[01:48] <funkpen> nancy?
[01:48] <humvee> she gave the interview on the basis that they used her written responces & cc her
[01:49] <funkpen> and what was art bell so right about?
[01:49] <humvee> no 1st interview w/geo nory
[01:49] <funkpen> ya...but why was he right?
[01:49] <humvee> actually she wrote it they edited it to fit the columb
[01:50] <funkpen> ok
[01:50] <humvee> it is not the one on the air
[01:50] <funkpen> nacy wrote an interview?
[01:50] <humvee> it is a follow up from her
[01:50] <funkpen> oh! i see...cool
[01:50] <funkpen> she should post it some where
[01:51] <humvee> did u read the partial exerpt on the site
[01:51] <funkpen> yes
[01:51] <humvee> was written by nancy  also much better picture of her
[01:51] <humvee> looks like she finnaly fixer her hair
[01:51] <funkpen> heh
[01:52] <funkpen> let me see if i can find it
[01:54] <funkpen> mabey it can be found online somewhere
[01:56] <humvee> dont think online as copywrited material
[01:56] <humvee> unless it is
[01:57] <funkpen> oh it is...but there is always some one who doesnt give a damn
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[02:00] <funkpen> hia scooby
[02:00] <funkpen> http://www.cosmictribune.org/pnw.htm
[02:00] <scooby-afk> hey penhead...
[02:00] <scooby-afk> LOL
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[02:01] <funkpen> heh
[02:01] <scooby-puterhead> trying to fix my "new" mobo
[02:01] <funkpen> ah ok
[02:01] <scooby-puterhead> grrrrr...
[02:01] <funkpen> Boy Kills Himself To Become Ghost
[02:01] <funkpen> Dec. 14 2002    Malaysia Star
[02:01] <funkpen> A 12-year-old schoolboy, who wanted to be a ghost in order to see the world, leapt to his death from the 8th floor of a flat block in Lip Sin Garden here early yesterday. The Standard Six pupil had left a brief suicide note addressed to his parents and elder sister. The note written in Chinese stated, "I am a ghost without strength. I want to become a ghost so that I can see the world."      MORE
[02:02] <funkpen> grrrl
[02:02] <funkpen> It's Raining Fish In Greece
[02:02] <scooby-puterhead> was his name Casper?
[02:02] <scooby-puterhead> LOL
[02:02] <funkpen> lol
[02:02] <scooby-puterhead> poor misguided kid
[02:03] <scooby-puterhead> Here is the problem with my puter if you care:
[02:03] <scooby-puterhead> http://www.motherboards.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14253
[02:03] <scooby-puterhead> any ideas are welcome....
[02:03] <funkpen> Scientists Try To Spot Elusive Gravity Waves
[02:03] <scooby-puterhead> I am about to update with the latest status
[02:03] <funkpen> interestiong
[02:04] <scooby-puterhead> that page what your quoting from?
[02:04] <scooby-puterhead> that the..
[02:04] <funkpen> not to shaby a computer
[02:04] <funkpen> need more ram though :)
[02:04] <funkpen> yes
[02:04] <funkpen> first one i mean
[02:04] <obany> mmm guess i need another browser for that can't see it with netscape 7.0
[02:05] <funkpen> i hate netscape :)
[02:05] <obany> i can't run ie here .. running linux :)
[02:05] <funkpen> i go with the evil corps explorer :)
[02:05] <funkpen> smart
[02:05] <obany> btw scooby, what kind of mianboard do you have ?
[02:05] <funkpen> bit of a learning curv from windows
[02:06] <obany> i used to have a asus pc32000 and that one had problems ... with reboots to
[02:06] <scooby-puterhead> the new one is a Asus A7M266
[02:07] <scooby-puterhead> and the new proc is AMD 1.7G
[02:07] <scooby-puterhead> RAM is new DDR 256+128
[02:07] <scooby-puterhead> video card is new 32MB
[02:07] <scooby-puterhead> AGP
[02:07] <scooby-puterhead> and the power supply is also new 400W
[02:07] <funkpen> hehe
[02:08] <scooby-puterhead> I bought the items peicemeal, one at a time, in that order
[02:08] <scooby-puterhead> except P/S and video are reversed
[02:08] <funkpen> That's Not Bigfoot, That's My Wife
[02:08] <obany> scooby http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Asus+A7M266&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=nl&btnG=Google+zoeken
[02:08] <scooby-puterhead> funk: you're right, more RAM is needed....
[02:08] <funkpen> Was Maya Pyramid Designed To Chirp Like A Bird?
[02:09] <funkpen> lol some of the stuff
[02:09] <funkpen> i need at least 500mgs(hey! i can dream):)
[02:09] <funkpen> but then id need a whole new comp
[02:09] <funkpen> not some stupid one
[02:11] <scooby-puterhead> obany: long and short: any combo I try of new/old mobo/processor/video will not elicite as much as a beep from the speaker...
[02:11] <funkpen> India Kid Has Been Eating Sand For 16 Years
[02:11] <scooby-puterhead> funkpen: Indian kid shits a glass bead
[02:11] <humvee> read whole site -  cool
[02:11] <scooby-puterhead> LOL
[02:11] <funkpen> lol
[02:12] <funkpen> Moon Landing Conspiracy Theory Re-Examined
[02:12] <scooby-puterhead> QV should link to this site....
[02:13] <scooby-puterhead> I think I will snd it to Wrzl
[02:13] <scooby-puterhead> http://guitarstart.com/weblog/eng/
[02:14] <funkpen> County To Permit Scientific Search For Ghosts
[02:14] <funkpen> anouther perl site?
[02:14] <scooby-puterhead> Jack Ass sues over 'Jackass' show
[02:14] <scooby-puterhead> http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/TV/12/31/offbeat.jackass.reut/index.html
[02:14] <scooby-puterhead> The guy's name is Jack Ass
[02:14] <scooby-puterhead> What a fuckin moron
[02:14] <funkpen> lol...like the tv show
[02:15] <scooby-puterhead> that's who he's suing
[02:15] <funkpen> heh
[02:15] <obany> mmmmmm ... imagine to have that last name
[02:15] <scooby-puterhead> LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Jack Ass says "Jackass" has given him a bad name.
[02:15] <scooby-puterhead> A Montana man who legally changed his name to "Jack Ass" in 1997 has sued media giant Viacom Inc. , claiming its stunt-heavy, gross-out TV show and movie "Jackass" had defamed his character.
[02:15] <obany> ehhee
[02:15] <obany> hi mr ass
[02:15] <scooby-puterhead> HI my name is Jack
[02:15] <scooby-puterhead> Jack Ass
[02:15] <funkpen> lol
[02:15] <scooby-puterhead> ROTFLMAO!!!!
[02:16] <scooby-puterhead> obany: how do I know if I have ECC RAM?  Is it marked on the chips?
[02:16] <funkpen> lol
[02:16] <scooby-puterhead> i will examine
[02:16] <obany> for what i know it will show if the PC stars up
[02:16] <obany> at least it used to be that way i think
[02:17] <funkpen> hia jackass!
[02:17] <funkpen> lol
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[02:18] <funkpen> 700 Year Old Pic Of Mickey Mouse Found In Austrian Church
[02:18] <funkpen> lol
[02:18] * Dick_Head is now known as scooby
[02:19] <funkpen> lolololol
[02:19] <scooby> obanY: computer is not even POSTing
[02:19] <funkpen> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_709660.html
[02:19] * humvee is now known as funky
[02:20] <scooby> funk: I saw that when it was on Drudge
[02:20] <scooby> funking crazy!
[02:20] <funkpen> heh
[02:20] <funkpen> i wounder if the church will sue disney?
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[02:21] <funkpen> winmx officialy sucks now in my books
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[02:23] <funkpen> A man who died of complications after having a tooth pulled and his girlfriend who committed suicide from grief were married in a traditional "ghost wedding", it was reported on Monday. Some 30 family members attended the wedding ceremony of Chen Yen-jen (26) and Chiang Chia-ling (21) held at the city mortuary in Keelung, north of Taipei on Sunday, the United Daily News said.      
[02:23] <scooby> have you tried direct connect?
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[02:23] <funkpen> died of a tooth pulling? thats new
[02:23] <scooby> bye hummer
[02:23] <bye_all> bye
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[02:23] <funkpen> ok
[02:23] <funkpen> hia scooby
[02:24] <scooby> done dumping links?
[02:24] <scooby> LOL
[02:24] <scooby> I need to roll up a number...
[02:24] <funkpen> 50!
[02:24] <scooby> I like 42
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[02:24] <funkpen> good good i could of sail 4,869
[02:25] <funkpen> sail-said
[02:25] <funkpen> or 420
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[02:26] <scooby> do you not know the significance of the number 42?
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[02:26] <funkpen> wb O
[02:26] <obany> :)
[02:26] <obany> heheh
[02:26] <scooby> then you have not read Douglas Adams "Life the Universe and Everything"
[02:26] <scooby> hey ob
[02:26] <funkpen> A man who died of complications after having a tooth pulled and his girlfriend who committed suicide from grief were married in a traditional "ghost wedding", it was reported on Monday. Some 30 family members attended the wedding ceremony of Chen Yen-jen (26) and Chiang Chia-ling (21) held at the city mortuary in Keelung, north of Taipei on Sunday, the United Daily News said.      
[02:26] <funkpen> lol
[02:26] <funkpen> Author Says He Knows Where UFOs Come From
[02:26] <scooby> haha
[02:27] <scooby> inky make a funnny linky
[02:27] <funkpen> wow this site rocks
[02:29] <funkpen> "Ghost Squirrel" Haunts Texas Campus
[02:31] <funkpen> WOW big wind!
[02:31] <funkpen> things crashing on roof
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[02:39] <obany> hi sotos
[02:43] <funkpen> hia sotos
[02:44] <obany> brb
[02:44] <funkpen> ABSTRACT - University of California astronomer Adam Burgasser and other researchers, reporting in recent issue of Astrophysical Journal Letters, discover that celestial bodies classified as brown dwarfs exhibit planetlike weather with clouds of liquid metals and thunderstorms of liquid iron rain; finding challenges conventional wisdom that planets are only astronomical bodies that exhibit weather changes; photo (M) Celestial bo
[02:44] <funkpen> classified as brown dwarfs exhibit planetlike weather with clouds of liquid metals and thunderstorms of liquid iron rain, researchers have discovered. The finding challenges the conventional wisdom that planets are the only astronomical bodies to have dynamic changing weather.
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[02:45] <funkpen> hia tex
[02:45] <tex-away> hi ink
[02:45] <funkpen> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00A1EF7385F0C758CDDA10894DA404482
[02:47] <tex-away> ty
[02:47] <funkpen> interesting artical
[02:47] <scooby> yeah, it is...
[02:48] <scooby> I gotta go finish working on the puter....
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[02:48] <scooby-afk> : (
[02:48] <funkpen> seeya
[02:48] <scooby-afk> c'ya
[02:48] <scooby-afk> thanks for the Cosmic Tribune link!
[02:48] <funkpen> np
[02:50] <funkpen> http://chandra.harvard.edu/xray_sources/browndwarf_fg.html
[02:51] <funkpen> wow anouther PX site
[02:51] <funkpen> http://www.planet-x.150m.com/iras.html
[02:54] <tex-away> i'm going back to bed... later ink
[02:54] <funkpen> later
[02:54] <obany> funkpen: that's from jtrv ... that planet-x.150 m is just well con Planet X
[02:54] <obany> not pro but con
[02:54] <funkpen> ah
[02:54] <funkpen> Discovering a Brown Dwarf
[02:54] <funkpen> In 1984, astronomers Donald McCarthy and Ron Probst reported the discovery of an object which is halfway between a planet and a star — a stillborn star, if you will — too small to engage in the nuclear fireworks that sustain a star. The term astronomers use for such an object is brown dwarf and, although they had been predicted to exist by a number of astronomers, this would be the very first of this cosmic species to be found
[02:54] <funkpen> The brown dwarf orbits one of the very faintest and coolest stars we know, called van Biesbroeck 8 (after the astronomer who found it) Located at about 21 light years away, in the direction of the constellation Ophiuchus, VB8 (as we affectionately and more pronounceably call it) was found in 1983 by astronomers at the U.S. Naval Observatory to show just a bit of a wobble.
[02:56] <obany> Interresting
[02:57] <funkpen> talks briefly about iras and mentions the year 1983...but nothing more on px
[03:00] <obany> mmm
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[03:01] <Spiff> Hi all
[03:01] <funkpen> hia spiff
[03:02] <funkpen> have you been here befor spiff?
[03:02] <funkpen> NY Times June 19, 1982--Something out there beyond the furthest reaches of the known solar system is tugging at Uranus and Neptune. A gravitational force keeps perturbing the two giant planets, causing irregularities in their orbits. The force suggests a presence far away and unseen large object, the long-sought Planet X.
[03:04] <funkpen> In August, 1988 a report by Dr. Robert S. Harrington of the U.S. Naval Laboratory calculated that its mass is probably four times that of Earth. Planet X is 4 to 5 times larger than earth, 20-25 times its mass and nearly 100 times as dense. It is a slow, smoldering, brown dwarf star.
[03:07] <Spiff> brb
[03:13] <funkpen> Large Object Discovered Orbiting Sun
[03:13] <funkpen> By Larry O'Hanlon, Discovery News
[03:13] <funkpen> July 3 — The discovery of a large reddish chunk of something orbiting in Pluto's neighborhood has re-ignited the idea that there may be more than nine planets in the solar system.
[03:13] <funkpen> http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20010702/kuiper.html#
[03:14] <funkpen> nvrmind that link...bad ref
[03:15] <obany> hi spiff
[03:18] <funkpen> http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20021202/hubble.html
[03:19] <funkpen> ah! nvrmind...diff b.dwarf
[03:21] <funkpen> AH! 3:30am!...i need togo to bed  now goodnite obany
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[03:24] <obany> bye funk
[03:24] <obany> wow 3:30am
[03:24] <obany> sigh
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[03:34] <Mugada> G'day all
[03:34] <Spiff> i'm here but I'll brb
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[03:37] <scooby-afk> hey now
[03:37] * scooby-afk is now known as scooby
[03:37] <Queen-away> hey there
[03:37] <scooby> just reading this link funkpen, er, inkpen, posted earlier...
[03:37] <scooby> http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20021202/hubble.html#jump
[03:38] <Mugada> hi
[03:38] <Queen-away> ok
[03:38] <scooby> Dec. 3 — After two years of painstaking research, scientists have determined the precise size of a planet beyond our solar system by measuring tiny shifts in the tilt of light coming from its parent star.
[03:39] <scooby> Oops.. here's the title:
[03:39] <scooby> Extrasolar Planet Twice as Big as Jupiter
[03:40] <scooby> QV: Have you seen this website:
[03:40] <scooby> http://www.cosmictribune.org/pnw.htm
[03:40] <Queen-away> holy crum
[03:40] <Queen-away> i guess nasa allows these obscure little articles out every now and then....
[03:41] <Queen-away> neat site, thanks
[03:41] <scooby> yeah, lotsa good stuff there
[03:41] <Queen-away> what are you doing up so early,scoob?
[03:41] <scooby> another one from inky
[03:41] <scooby> uh... actually up so late...
[03:41] <Queen-away> what time is it where you are?
[03:41] <scooby> i work till midnite, remember?
[03:42] <scooby> 3:43 AM
[03:42] <Queen-away> ah,ok
[03:42] <scooby> got off 45 minutes late
[03:42] <Queen-away> it's 6:43am here
[03:42] <scooby> what are u doing up so early?
[03:42] <Mugada> 11pm here
[03:42] <Queen-away> i'm not normally up at this hour....
[03:42] <Queen-away> hello Mugada
[03:42] <Mugada> hi
[03:42] <scooby> yes, that is why you are "away"
[03:42] <scooby> lol
[03:43] <Queen-away> i'm up because my dog is very sick....
[03:43] <scooby> throwing up sick?
[03:43] <Queen-away> i will be taking him to the vet today to be put down
[03:43] <scooby> sorry to hear that...
[03:43] <Queen-away> no, not throwing up
[03:43] <scooby> i'm so sorry
[03:43] <scooby> how are you doing with it?
[03:44] <Queen-away> he was diagnosed a year ago with heart disease.... he appears to have had a stroke or something....
[03:44] <Queen-away> i'm doing terrible
[03:44] <Queen-away> but it has to be cone
[03:44] <scooby> !huggle Queen-away
[03:44] <Queen-away> done
[03:44] * Queen-away is now known as QueenV
[03:45] <scooby> {{{{{{hugs}}}}}}
[03:45] <QueenV> he's 16 years old, he's had a great life
[03:45] <scooby> exactly
[03:45] <QueenV> in a way i take it as another sign of what's coming in may
[03:46] <QueenV> in my personal life, i mean
[03:46] <scooby> right
[03:47] <scooby> are you gonna do a funeral/burial?
[03:47] <QueenV> did you see that article i posted on my website about the hole in the lake ice in Minnesota?
[03:47] <scooby> yeah, very interesting
[03:47] <QueenV> no, i'm just gonna get it over with as quickly as possible
[03:47] <scooby> that's prolly best
[03:47] <scooby> you must be a mess
[03:47] <QueenV> well, it's not unexpected, so....
[03:47] <scooby> look at the bright side...  
[03:48] <scooby> now you'll have no excuse to leave the chat room
[03:48] <scooby> LOL
[03:48] <QueenV> lol
[03:48] <QueenV> very good
[03:48] <scooby> <<<<half full
[03:48] <QueenV> well, i plan to get another dog as soon as possible
[03:48] <scooby> good for you
[03:48] <scooby> what is your dog's name?
[03:48] <QueenV> our cat is going to miss him terribly, she adores him
[03:48] <QueenV> Ben
[03:49] <QueenV> Ben the Wonder Dog
[03:49] <scooby> awww
[03:49] <scooby> lol
[03:49] <scooby> what kinda dog is Ben?
[03:49] <scooby> other than a wonder dog
[03:49] <scooby> LOL
[03:49] <QueenV> he's a blonde american cocker spaniel
[03:49] <scooby> do you tell him blond jokes?
[03:49] <QueenV> oh yeah
[03:49] <scooby> LOL
[03:50] <scooby> I'll take a couple tokes right now for Ben....
[03:50] <QueenV> in my old neighbourhood in toronto (where EVERYONE has a dog and hangs out in the dog park), they used to call him Blonde Ambition because he would always try to dominate dogs five times his size....
[03:50] <scooby> dogs like to get irie...  usually
[03:50] <scooby> LOL
[03:50] <scooby> Blonde Ambition...
[03:51] <QueenV> about that minnesota lake....
[03:51] <QueenV> i want to ask a question about that this saturday
[03:52] <QueenV> must be related to earthchanges, i would think
[03:52] <scooby> i think  its an underground plume
[03:52] <scooby> of rising heat
[03:52] <scooby> that's the only thing it could be
[03:52] <QueenV> yep
[03:52] <scooby> maybe some volcanic underbubbling
[03:52] <scooby> very interesting
[03:52] <scooby> that was rense's site, yes?
[03:52] <QueenV> there are probably other lakes where this is happening as well...
[03:53] <QueenV> yes, rense's site, but the article is from a Minnesota newspaper
[03:53] <scooby> so amazing how this escapes the national media...  but not really
[03:53] <QueenV> yes
[03:54] <scooby> do you believe dogs have souls?
[03:54] <QueenV> of course
[03:54] <scooby> threy have to
[03:54] <QueenV> yes
[03:54] <scooby> you'll meet Ben again down the road
[03:55] <QueenV> yes
[03:55] <scooby> be strong for the children...
[03:55] <scooby> : )
[03:55] <QueenV> well, the good thing is he doesn't seem to be in any pain
[03:56] <QueenV> hasn't lost control of his bladder or bowels or anything
[03:56] <scooby> yeah, that's good
[03:56] <QueenV> just came back from taking him for a walk
[03:56] <scooby> still likes to go on long walks...
[03:56] <QueenV> yes, up until yesterday
[03:56] <QueenV> he had a roll in the snow while he was out
[03:57] <QueenV> but he is disoriented and unsteady on his feet
[03:57] <QueenV> we figure he's had a stroke or something
[03:57] <scooby> does he respond to you?
[03:57] <QueenV> yes!
[03:58] <scooby> good
[03:58] <QueenV> but his eyes are dialated and he's experiencing rapid eye movement
[03:58] <scooby> oic
[03:58] <QueenV> which indicates something awry in the brain
[03:59] <QueenV> but otherwise, he's resting comfortably right now
[03:59] <QueenV> not in pain
[03:59] <scooby> that's a good way to be
[03:59] * JurAFK is now known as Jurian
[03:59] <scooby> hello Jurian
[03:59] <Jurian> hey :)
[04:00] <QueenV> hi jurian
[04:00] <scooby> what time is it where you are Jurin
[04:00] <scooby> Jurian
[04:00] <Jurian> 13:00
[04:00] <scooby> that would put you in Europe somewhere?
[04:00] <Jurian> yep
[04:01] <scooby> raining today?
[04:01] <Jurian> no, maybe snow, but no rain, this time a year :p
[04:01] <Jurian> its freezing here :)
[04:01] <Jurian> -24 celcius
[04:01] <Jurian> that's -11.2 F ;p
[04:02] <Jurian> was -22F earlier
[04:02] <Jurian> now THAT, is cold :p
[04:02] <scooby> wow.  That's cold
[04:02] <scooby> we are experiencing some major weather changes here.  It is always sunny and hovers near 70-75, but gets really cold at night, like down to 50.
[04:02] <scooby> F
[04:02] <scooby> LOL
[04:02] <Jurian> hehe
[04:03] <scooby> I am in San Diego
[04:03] <scooby> heh heh
[04:03] <Jurian> I'm in sweden :)
[04:03] <Spiff> It never rains in southern calif. right?
[04:03] <scooby> nice
[04:03] <Jurian> very :)
[04:03] <scooby> once, spiff
[04:03] <scooby> one
[04:03] <scooby> lol
[04:03] <Spiff> lol
[04:03] <scooby> jurian: when you step out side does the snot in your nose freeze?
[04:04] <scooby> Is it that cold?
[04:04] <Spiff> I was there in the 90th it rain or drizzle every day
[04:04] <Jurian> yep :)
[04:04] <scooby> i grew up in indiana, USA...  I remember that
[04:04] <Jurian> even worse.. if you step outside, and breathe in, you feel your nose-hairs freezing :)
[04:04] <scooby> yup
[04:04] <Spiff> don't smile your teeths maight crack
[04:05] <scooby> lol
[04:06] <Spiff> -32C today Jurian with your -24C looks like you will have a nice afternoon
[04:06] <scooby> where are you spiff
[04:06] <Spiff> Sweden
[04:06] <Jurian> hehe
[04:06] <scooby> lol
[04:06] <Spiff> North of Jurian
[04:07] <Jurian> was -30C this night
[04:07] <Jurian> that's cold enough for me :)
[04:07] <Jurian> burning lots of wood :p
[04:07] <scooby> ouch
[04:07] <Spiff> I guess that far south the sun heat it up
[04:07] <Spiff> lol
[04:07] <scooby> too cold thank you
[04:07] <Spiff> I use a lot of wood for the moment too
[04:08] <Jurian> heh, we see the sun here for about an hour now :)
[04:08] <scooby> short day....
[04:08] <Jurian> yep
[04:08] <scooby> long night tho...
[04:08] <scooby> heh heh
[04:08] <Jurian> shortest day, we saw the sun for 1 minute :)
[04:08] <scooby> woah!!
[04:08] <Jurian> that's quite weird :p
[04:08] <scooby> was it even shorter in the north?
[04:09] <scooby> was it kinda "dawnish" midday?
[04:09] <Jurian> if you get within the polar circle, you dont see the sun at all, during the winter
[04:09] <scooby> right
[04:09] <Jurian> yeah, its dawnish :p
[04:09] <scooby> hmmmm
[04:09] <scooby> i want to experience that sometime.  sounds kewl
[04:09] <scooby> being a nite person and all
[04:10] <Jurian> hehe, I have no problem with it, but some get depressive without seeing the sun at least once a day
[04:10] <scooby> Queen Vee: I wish you well with your task today.
[04:10] <scooby> Jurian: I can imagine
[04:10] <scooby> I have to go to bed now it is 4 AM here and I have stuff to do in the AM.
[04:10] <scooby> g'nite all
[04:11] * scooby is now known as scooby-afk
[04:11] <Jurian> hehe
[04:11] <scooby-afk> nice talking to you Jurian
[04:11] <scooby-afk> peace to you and Spiff
[04:11] <Jurian> yeah, it was :)
[04:11] <scooby-afk> try and stay warm eh.
[04:11] <Jurian> cya later! :)
[04:11] <Jurian> sleep well :)
[04:11] <scooby-afk> cya
[04:11] <scooby-afk> heh heh
[04:11] <scooby-afk> hey.. checkj out my website:
[04:12] <scooby-afk> ckeck, even
[04:12] <scooby-afk> http://haywoodjahelpme.com
[04:12] <scooby-afk> those are real calls
[04:12] <scooby-afk> I am really a tech support person
[04:12] <scooby-afk> LOL
[04:12] <scooby-afk> nite
[04:12] <Jurian> hehe, poor you :D
[04:12] <scooby-afk> I suffer for the sake of the people
[04:12] <scooby-afk> LOL
[04:13] <scooby-afk> thank god for your web client tho
[04:13] <scooby-afk> it is yours isn't it?
[04:13] <Jurian> sort of
[04:13] <Jurian> I didn't make it
[04:13] <Jurian> just bought a license :p
[04:13] <scooby-afk> oic
[04:14] <scooby-afk> its a nice one
[04:14] <scooby-afk> license is good
[04:14] <Jurian> its the only one I could find, that wasn't a #*$&)@*$# piece of shit
[04:14] <scooby-afk> ROTFLMAO
[04:14] <scooby-afk> open source?
[04:14] <Jurian> nope :/
[04:14] <scooby-afk> o well
[04:15] <Jurian> I could write one that doesn't even need java.. but its too much work.. I code too much as it is, can't be arsed to code more :p
[04:15] <scooby-afk> right arm
[04:16] <scooby-afk> what would it be?
[04:16] <scooby-afk> php?
[04:16] <Jurian> yep :)
[04:17] <Jurian> php is my god :p
[04:17] <scooby-afk> yes... me like php
[04:17] <scooby-afk> ever use phpBB?
[04:17] <Jurian> nope
[04:17] <scooby-afk> cool bulliten board community
[04:17] <Jurian> I hardly use any pre-coded stuff, other than phpMyAdmin
[04:17] <scooby-afk> that is a good one
[04:18] <scooby-afk> check out http://phpbb.com
[04:18] <Jurian> I look at the source code, and usually get scared of the insecure coding people do :)
[04:18] <scooby-afk> there are many different skin and language packs out there
[04:18] <scooby-afk> not to mention smilies and avatar
[04:18] <scooby-afk> easy to admin
[04:18] <scooby-afk> and many mods available
[04:18] <Jurian> yeah, I've heard of it :)
[04:19] <scooby-afk> what little I know of php, this seems very well designed
[04:19] <obany> kinda cold huh Jurian over there ... wow -20 .. sigh :)
[04:19] <Jurian> -30 last night :p
[04:19] <scooby-afk> how do yo ustand it
[04:19] <scooby-afk> i gotta head for bed guys...
[04:19] <obany> heating :)
[04:19] <scooby-afk> nite ob
[04:19] <scooby-afk> LOL
[04:19] <scooby-afk> i guess you don't go out...
[04:20] <scooby-afk> i remember those days....
[04:20] <scooby-afk> anyway.. nite
[04:20] <Jurian> hehe, nite! :)
[04:20] <obany> is toch lekker warm he Jurian ... -30 :P
[04:21] <Jurian> heerlijk :p
[04:24] <Spiff> Dutch?
[04:25] <obany> dutch yes
[04:25] <Spiff> Jurian speak dutch?
[04:25] <obany> Jurian is Dutch :)
[04:25] <Jurian> yeah, I'm dutch :p
[04:25] <Spiff> Speak swedish?
[04:25] <Spiff> Norsk?
[04:25] <Spiff> danish?
[04:25] <Jurian> jag talar lite svenska :p
[04:25] <Jurian> inte bra :p
[04:25] <Spiff> Va bra
[04:26] <obany> ik kan een heel klein beetje Zweeds?
[04:26] <Jurian> jep :)
[04:26] <Jurian> gloof ik teminste :)
[04:27] <obany> lite lijkt nammelijk op little
[04:27] <Spiff> Liknar Svenska
[04:27] <Jurian> what's liknar?
[04:27] <Spiff> Similiar
[04:28] <Jurian> right
[04:28] <Jurian> my swedish is still rather bad :p
[04:28] <Spiff> I always say dutch and german its kind of bad Danish
[04:28] <Jurian> oi
[04:29] <Jurian> danish = drunken people's language
[04:29] <Jurian> I swear, they ALL sound like they're druk all the time
[04:29] <Jurian> then again
[04:29] <Spiff> And Danish/Norwegian/Swedish/Icelandic same
[04:29] <Jurian> they ARE drunk all the time
[04:31] <Spiff> Jepp more fun in Danmark
[04:32] <Jurian> nah
[04:32] <Jurian> sweden is nicer :p
[04:32] <Spiff> I had Danish girlfriend in Copenhagen ones and I can't remeber anything
[04:32] <Spiff> lol
[04:33] <obany> http://www.post-gazette.com/columnists/20021226diana1226fnp1.asp read it
[04:33] <obany> it's a link someone emailed to tt-watch
[04:34] <obany>  But the space aliens called Zetas, whose Earthly contact is someone named Nancy, give us until late summer, tops. According to the Zetas, Earth will pass through the tail of a comet, possibly as early as April. Earth will stop rotating long enough for some turbulence to occur -- humongous lightning bolts, mad winds, firestorms of petrochemicals, pole shifts, continental rips, rising and sinking land masses, tidal waves, ocean v
[04:34] <obany> xes, melting ice caps, and a few other incidentals.
[04:34] <QueenV> hello obany
[04:35] <obany> hi Queenvee will be only be on shortly and then back later on .. in the evening ... but well
[04:35] <obany> QueenV: did you read about the hurricane in the south of Germany  yet?
[04:36] <QueenV> no, obany, i haven
[04:36] <QueenV> haven't
[04:36] <QueenV> the woman with the colum writes:  The Zetas didn't tell Nancy how long this "brief" period of chaos would last.
[04:36] <QueenV> silly woman
[04:37] <obany> well you can email her so ... and when mike o did send the article to tt-watch he also put in a cc
[04:37] <obany> to that woman
[04:38] <QueenV> i am very sad today, i am taking my dog to the vet's to be put to sleep
[04:39] <obany> :/ ah that's a sad expierence
[04:39] <QueenV> yes, well, he seems to have had a stroke or something
[04:39] <obany> when our dog was brough to the vet, and was put to slee i cried a little :/
[04:39] <QueenV> he's very old, 16, so it is not unexpected
[04:39] <obany> yes yes
[04:39] <QueenV> just a little?
[04:39] <QueenV> ;-)
[04:41] <QueenV> obany: it is interesting, though, that column....
[04:41] <obany> QueenV: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=1987106
[04:41] <obany> http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,3367,1429_W_738063,00.html
[04:41] <obany> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=germany+storm+
[04:41] <QueenV> reading about it must have affected the woman to some degree, for her to write about it, even tongue in cheek....
[04:43] <obany> yes yes
[04:44] <QueenV> did you see this?
[04:44] <QueenV> http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20021202/hubble.html#jump
[04:45] <obany> big planet
[04:46] <obany> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2624733.stm
[04:50] <obany> just posted 2 articles about the weather in Europe to tt-watch
[04:50] <QueenV> great links, obany, thanks
[04:50] <QueenV> ok
[04:51] <obany> hurricane in south Germany
[04:51] <obany> not well something for Europe in fact
[04:52] <obany> uncommon
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[04:55] <obany> Habitable planets may be common
[04:55] <obany>   10:18 03 January 03   Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition  
[04:55] <obany> One in four of the planetary systems identified to date outside the Solar System are capable of harbouring other Earths, say astrophysicists, a much higher proportion than anyone expected.
[04:56] <obany> http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993223
[04:57] <QueenV> interesting
[04:58] <obany> http://www.adn.com/24hour/world/story/699797p-5174811c.html earthquake in Indonesia
[04:58] <obany> but you already have that one i think
[04:59] <QueenV> no, i didn't, thanks
[05:01] <obany> food now .. and then i will be off for some hours ...
[05:01] <obany> brb
[05:03] <Mugada> midnite now bye all
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[05:12] <Ogmios> hi
[05:13] <Jurian> hey :)
[05:13] <QueenV> hello ogmios
[05:13] <QueenV> i hear it's really cold in Finland
[05:14] <Ogmios> yes
[05:14] <QueenV> what's the temp today?
[05:14] <Ogmios> we have problems becouse of it
[05:14] <Ogmios> -26 here
[05:14] <Ogmios> C
[05:15] <Jurian> -22 here at the moment
[05:15] <QueenV> lord, that's cold
[05:16] <QueenV> it's -5C here, and that's plenty cold enough
[05:16] <Ogmios> electricity probs
[05:16] <QueenV> i bet
[05:17] <Ogmios> just heard that must save it..so less sauna
[05:17] <QueenV> oh no
[05:18] <Ogmios> and becouse so few rain..its even worse
[05:18] <QueenV> what would the usual temperature be at this time of year?
[05:18] <Ogmios> around -10 i guess
[05:19] <QueenV> mmmmm
[05:19] <Jurian> -12 here, average for december
[05:20] <Jurian> been seeing colder than -20 for quite a while now
[05:20] <Ogmios> finland is big...there was -40 somewhere
[05:21] <QueenV> mmm, the opposite over here; been seeing warmer-than-usual weather for a few years now
[05:21] <QueenV> i can't imagein -40
[05:21] <QueenV> is there a windchill factor too?
[05:21] <QueenV> how would your face not freeze off?
[05:22] <Ogmios> need to cover it
[05:23] <Ogmios> hmmm no wind atm
[05:24] <QueenV> i can take cold, but i can't take a cold wind
[05:25] <Ogmios> less wind in inland
[05:27] <Ogmios> 1977 was the last time this bad energy crisis
[05:28] <Ogmios> dont know how we manage if this continues weeks
[05:28] <Ogmios> cant run factories..
[05:30] <obany> i have to go will return well later
[05:30] <Ogmios> high tech country is vulnerable
[05:30] <obany> back in let's say 4 hours or so
[05:30] <Ogmios> ok
[05:30] <QueenV> ok, bye obany
[05:30] <Ogmios> bye
[05:30] <obany> bye
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[05:31] <Ogmios> how they manage in siberia..they are used to coldness
[05:32] <Ogmios> despite foreigners keep us like eskimos. we havent used to these temperatures
[05:34] <Ogmios> maybe gulf stream has weakened?
[05:34] <Ogmios> if so..its end of farming in finland
[05:35] <Jurian> I dont know :/
[05:39] <Ogmios> hmmm already end times feeling..
[05:40] <Ogmios> getting stronger every month now
[05:41] <Ogmios> funny to see sun..wont warm at all
[05:41] <Ogmios> can even look at it
[05:45] <Jurian> heh, I know the feeling
[05:49] <sotos> I have some news that I translate from Greek internet news-site for you read...
[05:50] <sotos> almost every day we have earthquaqes here in Greece!!
[05:51] <sotos> that is the url
[05:51] <sotos> http://www.alphatv.gr/cgi-bin/hwebnews.exe?-V=alphanews_ie:ALPHATV&-F=0=9396&-DpoliticsNews.asp&-b=1
[05:55] <Ogmios> i need to go. see you later
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[06:02] <Spiff> Hi again
[06:02] <QueenV> wb spiff
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[07:32] <Dsarith> Hi all
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[08:20] <Dsarith> Hi QV
[08:20] <QueenVee> hi there
[08:20] <Dsarith> Its so quiet :-)
[08:20] <QueenVee> yes
[08:21] <QueenVee> well, i've been preoccupied, not here...
[08:21] <QueenVee> i'm having a very difficult day
[08:21] <Dsarith> Why is your day difficult?
[08:21] <QueenVee> i'm taking my dear old dog to the vet's today to be put to sleep
[08:21] <Dsarith> I am sorry QV
[08:21] <QueenVee> well, it's his time
[08:22] <QueenVee> he's 16 years old and has had a great life
[08:22] <Dsarith> Yes, he is pretty old
[08:22] <Dsarith> Still doesnt make it easy
[08:22] <QueenVee> it's not unexpected, i've been preparing for this for about a year, since he was diagnosed with a heart condition
[08:22] <QueenVee> he appears to have had a stroke or something during the night
[08:23] <QueenVee> he's not in any pain, but he's very disoriented, having trouble walking
[08:23] <Dsarith> I am very sorry QV
[08:23] <QueenVee> thanks
[08:24] <QueenVee> i will get another dog as soon as possible
[08:24] <Dsarith> When are you going to the Vet
[08:24] <QueenVee> not for another 6 hours
[08:25] <Dsarith> I got caught up on all the logs yesterday
[08:25] <Dsarith> At least the recent ones
[08:25] <QueenVee> good for you
[08:25] <QueenVee> it's a lot of reading
[08:25] <Dsarith> I am going to try to be on Saturday
[08:25] <Dsarith> Its pretty interesting
[08:25] <Dsarith> Lots of information
[08:26] <QueenVee> i want to put together a little "map", so to speak, guiding people to specific poleshift information on the site....
[08:26] <Dsarith> Thats a cool idea
[08:26] <QueenVee> e.g. HOW TO PREPARE: go to such and such links....
[08:26] <QueenVee> COUNTDOWN SIGNS: go to such and such links....
[08:27] <Dsarith> Having everything at your fingertips would be awesome. That is what I think is missing
[08:28] <QueenVee> yes
[08:28] <QueenVee> well, it's next on my to do list....
[08:28] <QueenVee> by the time i get done all the things i want to do on my website..... the poleshift will be here....
[08:28] <QueenVee> lol
[08:29] <QueenVee> i'm starting to wish there was more time
[08:29] <Dsarith> lol... and no way to get to it... lol
[08:30] <Dsarith> brb on phone
[08:30] <QueenVee> np
[08:32] <Dsarith> I think a lot of people will wish they had more time
[08:33] <QueenVee> i gotta take the dog out, be back in a bit
[08:33] <Dsarith> ok
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[09:21] <QueenVee> hey spiff
[09:21] <Spiff> Hi there
[09:22] <Spiff> got any news?
[09:22] <QueenVee> quiet day here
[09:22] <Spiff> really
[09:22] <QueenVee> just reading through my usual sources here, nothing really of note.... yet....
[09:25] <QueenVee> Spiff: what's the general attitude in Sweden about the U.S., iraq, etc?
[09:30] <Spiff> Qv: I don't know I guess quite divided
[09:31] <QueenVee> really?
[09:31] <Spiff> How about over there?
[09:31] <QueenVee> here in canada there has always been a lot of anti-american feeling, and that is especially so now
[09:32] <QueenVee> i was just curious about how they are perceived in the rest of the world...
[09:32] <QueenVee> sometimes i think that anti-Americanism is stronger in canada than in Europe
[09:32] <Spiff> American are more afraid for terror then europeans be course it have always been there
[09:33] <QueenVee> yes, they think it was suddenly invented 9/11/2001
[09:34] <Spiff> We trying to avoid to travel when a threat have been issued but thats all.
[09:35] <QueenVee> we are untouched by it all, we are very sheltered from the kind of horrors that most of the world experiences all the time
[09:35] <QueenVee> so were Americans.... until 9/11....
[09:36] <Spiff> But PX will probably shake you as well ;-)
[09:36] <QueenVee> yes indeed, as ZT says, it is the GREAT EQUALIZER....
[09:37] <QueenVee> although most of canada will fare better than most places...
[09:37] <QueenVee> according to zt
[09:38] <Spiff> I feel safe here We are far away from the masses and hidden up in the montains.
[09:38] <QueenVee> yes, i was about to say, Sweden is also predicted to do well
[09:38] <Spiff> No civilizations around
[09:39] <Spiff> I need to travel with 2 hours to reach nearest store with clothes in!
[09:40] <Spiff> (with car)
[09:40] <QueenVee> yes, inconvenient now, but will be a good thing later
[09:41] <QueenVee> my safe place is about an hour from the nearest city... which is too close for my comfort...
[09:41] <Spiff> Any stored supplys yet?
[09:42] <QueenVee> no, my cousin and i have very limited resources. we have been preparing a very extensive list of what is needed and where to get it, but are not prepared to shell out our money until things firm up a little more....
[09:43] <QueenVee> when PX appears in the sky will be the very very latest that we will put our plan into action
[09:43] <Spiff> I had a dream last week:.....
[09:43] <QueenVee> do tell
[09:44] <QueenVee> i have poleshift related dreams quite a lot
[09:45] <Spiff> It was fire crackers chinees style with (papper poppers) and I guy and a lady that was not human reptile eyes and in the background I saw the comet
[09:46] <Spiff> Everybody celibrating something unaware of the comet is not a comet it
[09:46] <Spiff> it's something else that will affect soon
[09:46] <Spiff> Scary?
[09:46] <QueenVee> yes, very interesting
[09:47] <QueenVee> my cousin had a dream recently of standing out in her backyard (her place in the country), thinking what a good view she will have of PX when it appears in the sky....
[09:47] <QueenVee> i have ongoing dreams about organizing people in survival communities....
[09:48] <QueenVee> everyone is very calm, but there is a sense of urgency that we have to have everything in place by a certain time
[09:48] <Spiff> I have dream of walking long distanses to fetch stuff
[09:48] <Spiff> (aftertime I guess)
[09:49] <QueenVee> well, one could argue that  because we are thinking about this all the time, it is natural that we have related dreams....
[09:49] <QueenVee> on the other hand, they could be precognitive in some way
[09:49] <QueenVee> who knows?
[09:49] <Spiff> I had a crazy dream that was really clear about..
[09:51] <Spiff> I sneaked omboard on a ship and white was not alowed to be on board but the community where I came from did not believe that pole have moved
[09:51] <Spiff> so I sneaked aboard and hide and jumped of to photograph the pole area
[09:52] <QueenVee> wow
[09:52] <Spiff> It was all gravel
[09:52] <QueenVee> the pole?
[09:52] <Spiff> Southpol
[09:53] <QueenVee> very interesting
[09:55] <Spiff> Very vivid and clear dreams
[09:55] <QueenVee> ha, this is interesting:
[09:55] <QueenVee> ZT has predicted that they will be blaming all of the weird weather, earthchanges, etc on solar activity....
[09:56] <QueenVee> so check this out: http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=2256
[09:56] <Spiff> A change is on the way but when May maybe I don't know
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[09:57] <Spiff> Ups logged out
[09:57] <QueenVee> i wondered....
[09:57] <Spiff> Shoot
[09:58] <QueenVee> i'll repeat what i said just before you got disconnected
[09:58] <QueenVee> ZT has predicted that they will be blaming all of the weird weather, earthchanges, etc on solar activity....
[09:58] <QueenVee>  so check this out: http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=2256
[09:58] <Spiff> I saw it thanks
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[09:59] <QueenVee> it echoes what ZT has been saying about increased disruption of communications -- e.g. sattelites and cell phones -- but blames it on solar flares....
[10:00] <QueenVee> "A storm on the sun can cut off our cell phones on Earth. "We are seeing our satellite and communication systems becoming more susceptible to damage by space weather"...
[10:01] <Spiff> True
[10:04] <Spiff> Any new pic on Px?
[10:05] <QueenVee> this is the latest: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=3
[10:06] <Spiff> I have to go, bring in the horses
[10:06] <Spiff> bye
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[10:12] <QueenVee> hey! samsara!
[10:12] <QueenVee> nice to see you
[10:12] <samsara2003> Hi
[10:12] <samsara2003> Well, this is the year we've all been waiting for our whole lives
[10:13] <QueenVee> yes indeed
[10:13] <QueenVee> i was just telling Spiff about this:
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[10:13] <QueenVee> you recall that ZT has predicted that they will be blaming all of the weird weather, earthchanges, etc on solar activity....
[10:13] <QueenVee> hi obany
[10:13] <QueenVee> ill start again for obany's benefit
[10:13] <samsara2003> I expected to do somthing extrodinary, but wound up just going out for a few drinks, as usual
[10:13] <obany> okay okay
[10:13] <QueenVee>  you recall that ZT has predicted that they will be blaming all of the weird weather, earthchanges, etc on solar activity....
[10:13] <obany> Yes
[10:13] <samsara2003> right...
[10:14] <obany> hi samsara2003
[10:14] <samsara2003> hi obany, happy ny
[10:14] <obany> you 2
[10:14] <QueenVee> so check this article out: http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=2256
[10:14] <QueenVee>  it echoes what ZT has been saying about increased disruption of communications -- e.g. sattelites and cell phones -- but blames it on solar flares....
[10:14] <QueenVee> "A storm on the sun can cut off our cell phones on Earth. "We are seeing our satellite and communication systems becoming more susceptible to damage by space weather"...
[10:14] <samsara2003> You know what...my cell phone is cutting out all the time now...
[10:15] <samsara2003> I had to replace it with a landline, though I anticipated having increasing problems with it...havn't seen that Verizon has hade any kind of general announcement...
[10:15] <samsara2003> The executive are probably aware of the approach...
[10:16] <samsara2003> They mention 2012
[10:16] <samsara2003> They also reference John Jenkins work
[10:16] <samsara2003> Met John in Huntsville in Nov, talked with him for a few hours
[10:17] <QueenVee> john?
[10:17] <samsara2003> John Major Jekins, author of Galactic Alighnment...
[10:17] <obany> yes queen: also saying that solar flares has an influence ... on the weather, someoene should email to Strieber about Zt ..
[10:17] <samsara2003> He's an authority on the Mayan calander
[10:17] <QueenVee> ah, ok
[10:17] <obany> and?
[10:18] <samsara2003> Glactic alighnment stuff...mentioned to him the possibility of Annunaki influence on the Mayan Calander...he's quite open-minded and doesn't rule anything out...great guy
[10:18] <QueenVee> what do you guys make of this weird story: http://rense.com/general33/hole.htm
[10:18] <samsara2003> Neither the poleshift nor 2003 was discussed..
[10:19] <obany> mmm
[10:19] <samsara2003> I found some plans for the building of a water distiller at: http://info.tzo.com/#filter
[10:19] <samsara2003> I'll let you know if they're any good
[10:20] <samsara2003> Nice thing is that it tells you how to build it yourself, so if it breaks, you can fix it - I'm going to become proficient at it
[10:20] <QueenVee> great, thanks for that!
[10:20] <obany> okay okay .. anyway brb
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[10:20] <samsara2003> Or try to anyways...
[10:21] <QueenVee> best ya can do... try....
[10:21] <QueenVee> things are really heating up, eh?
[10:21] <samsara2003> Yes they are...policitcally things are getting extreamely tense
[10:21] <QueenVee> now if only the pics would become more clear
[10:21] <samsara2003> I'm sure you've been hearing about N. Korea
[10:21] <QueenVee> oh yes
[10:22] <samsara2003> I'm sure the NWO folks would love to piss them off as much as possible in hopes that they'll pop off a nuke somewhere...
[10:22] <QueenVee> but i believe what ZT has been saying, that there won't be any large-scale war before the shift....
[10:22] <samsara2003> I couldn't believe the outragous rehtoric used by Donald Rumsefeld...the arrogance of this administration is unbelievable
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[10:22] <obany> back
[10:23] <samsara2003> Most people and news sources are just toddling along like it's no biggie
[10:23] <samsara2003> "And men will walk as if asleep" -Mother shipton
[10:25] <QueenVee> great line
[10:25] <samsara2003> It appears the Bush junta going to have a bit of trouble in imposing martial law and/or an Iraq invasion...UN & most allies aren't buying the BS
[10:25] <QueenVee> yep
[10:25] <samsara2003> Except Sharon and Blaire, of course...
[10:26] <obany> Blair is well a ally so ... but mos others they don't buy it anymore i think ..
[10:26] <obany> brb
[10:26] <QueenVee> well, i fully believe what ZT is saying, that they're really just positioning themselves, putting everything in place, to take over everthing after the shift....
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[10:26] <QueenVee> they're completely deluded
[10:26] <samsara2003> Right...the idiots
[10:26] <samsara2003> They should have disclosed extraterrestrial technologies & spirituality 50 years ago
[10:26] <QueenVee> the utter recklessness with which they are pursuing their agenda tells me that they know exactly what's coming down the pipe
[10:27] <QueenVee> because what they're doing does not make sense in terms of long-term goals...
[10:27] <QueenVee> only in terms of short-term ones
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[10:27] <QueenVee> they've thrown politics and diplomacy and ally-building right out the window
[10:27] <QueenVee> because they know it's irrelevant
[10:27] <samsara2003> Yes they have...
[10:28] <QueenVee> in their minds, all that counts now is who will have the biggest guns
[10:28] <QueenVee> the most control
[10:28] <samsara2003> You can really see a shift in foreign policy that goes WAY beyond the affects that might have been a result of 9/11
[10:28] <QueenVee> brute strength
[10:28] <obany> well i am not a USA citizen .. but well i don't like the Bush admin
[10:28] <obany> European here
[10:28] <QueenVee> yes, especially when you realize that the shift was planned long before 9/11
[10:28] <QueenVee> Canadian here
[10:29] <samsara2003> I studied this crap for 4 years as an International Relations major in college...biggest waste of time I've ever spent
[10:29] <samsara2003> It's like watching spoilled kiddies with expensive toys on playground
[10:30] <samsara2003> It's quite sad
[10:31] <obany> to bad it's like this
[10:31] <samsara2003> It doesn't have to be
[10:31] <samsara2003> lol...http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=2247
[10:33] <samsara2003> Boy, it'd be great if we were waiting around for a disclosure of the ET presense in May, instead of a cosmic cataclysm
[10:33] <QueenVee> yeah, right
[10:33] <QueenVee> as if
[10:34] <QueenVee> is this guy and his cronies the anti-christ, or what?
[10:34] <samsara2003> Dubya would be the last person in the world to disclose the cosmic conspiracy
[10:34] <QueenVee> yeah, he probably thinks he can keep secrets from the aliens
[10:34] <QueenVee> figgers he's got a leg up on em
[10:34] <samsara2003> I heard that it was one of the first question Bill Clinton asked when he become president
[10:35] <obany> brb
[10:35] <QueenVee> yeah, Carter too
[10:35] <QueenVee> but even the presidents are not privy
[10:35] <QueenVee> unless they can be
[10:35] <QueenVee> unless they can be counted on to maintain the status quo
[10:36] <samsara2003> They don't want another JFK situation...
[10:36] <QueenVee> ha, you beat me to it
[10:36] <samsara2003> You know I can't find a copy of Prof. Lawrence Merrick's book, "Killing the Messenger"
[10:36] <QueenVee> don't know that one
[10:37] <samsara2003> Documented evidence of Gov. Connoly's notecards that had JFK's alien disclosure speech on them...
[10:37] <samsara2003> Looked all over the place...
[10:37] <samsara2003> Even Amazon didn't have it
[10:37] <QueenVee> whaaaaa?
[10:37] <QueenVee> when was that written?
[10:38] <samsara2003> Note sure...90's sometime
[10:38] <QueenVee> you read it?
[10:39] <samsara2003> NO I haven't
[10:39] <samsara2003> Just excepts
[10:39] <QueenVee> sound convincing?
[10:39] <samsara2003> I haven't read it, but I certainly buy the story...
[10:39] <QueenVee> do you read the excerpts before or after ZT said the same thing....
[10:39] <QueenVee> do=did
[10:40] <samsara2003> Some before others afterwards...I knew about a good portion of the government writeup before it was published on ZT, in any case...
[10:40] <samsara2003> Heck, just about everything on the cosmic conspiracy was already known
[10:41] <samsara2003> It was Bill Cooper that said, "There's no coverup!"
[10:42] <samsara2003> It was some of the real obscure information presented in that section that convinced me Nancy was a valid channel
[10:42] <samsara2003> That was long ago
[10:42] <QueenVee> well, if ZT is just a hoax.... nancy clearly has incredibly broad knowledge and understanding of all of the ufo/alien literature and documentation out there, and has managed to weave it together in a very convincing package....
[10:42] <samsara2003> hehe...no chance of that
[10:43] <samsara2003> Have you seen the new images?
[10:43] <QueenVee> well, i'm a skeptic by nature and one part of my mind is always looking for the holes in ZT.... looking for some other explanation of the material...
[10:43] <samsara2003> Even Mandelker agrees that Nancy is a valid contact
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[10:44] <samsara2003> However, it is still considered by many that ZT is a negative channel...
[10:44] <QueenVee> like i said to my cousin the other day, you know me, you know what a hard-ass i am.... i keep looking for the holes in this thing, keep hoping to find them -- but can't....
[10:44] <QueenVee> hi tex
[10:44] <QueenVee> negative channel? what do you mean?
[10:44] <tex-at-work> HI QV
[10:44] <samsara2003> That those of Zeta are of negative oreintation, STS
[10:44] <QueenVee> who is Mandelker?
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[10:44] <samsara2003> Dr. Scott Mandelker (www.universal-vision.com)
[10:45] <QueenVee> samsara: well, i can see no evidence of that
[10:45] <QueenVee> hi humvee
[10:45] <humvee> hi Queen
[10:45] <humvee> did u hear hoagland last nite
[10:45] <samsara2003> As I said, it's one possible out, for those not comfortable with the message
[10:46] <QueenVee> samsara: yeah, a long-shot
[10:48] <QueenVee> humvee: no, didn't hear him
[10:48] <QueenVee> hoagland never has anything new to say....
[10:49] <humvee> he almost has answer 2 annunaki px just needs dots connected 4 him
[10:49] <QueenVee> can you elaborate, humvee?
[10:49] <humvee> wrote him a fax 2 connect them
[10:50] <humvee> he is disinfo because someone at nasa is leaking 2 him
[10:50] <humvee> they wan him 2 figure it out & tell
[10:50] <QueenVee> samsara: i can see how someone like Mandelker -- or anyone with a more "touchy-feely" spiritual bent -- might interpret the zeta's hard-edged scientific bent as "negative"....
[10:51] <QueenVee> humvee: interesting
[10:51] <humvee> would u want 2 see ltr before i fax it?
[10:51] <QueenVee> sure
[10:51] <humvee> ok email
[10:51] <QueenVee> queenvee59@hotmail.com
[10:51] <humvee> ok thanks
[10:53] <QueenVee> samsara: when talking to my cousin the other day, she asked if the zeta message had a "religious" aspect to it (knowing that if it did, i wouldn't go near it). i said they discussed spiritual matters to a degree, but tend to be "yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that later -- right now there's a poleshift coming and you've got to prepare!"
[10:53] <QueenVee> stop thinking about your chakras and dig a trench!
[10:53] <samsara2003> hehe
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[10:54] <QueenVee> hello phyrephli -- what brings you to this room?
[10:54] <samsara2003> The spiritual message of the Zetas does not bode with me and is not worth taking anything frome...there are much better sources for this information
[10:54] <Phyrephli> interesting topic:)
[10:54] <QueenVee> i agree, samsara
[10:55] <QueenVee> Phyrephli: take note:
[10:55] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[10:55] <samsara2003> Those of Ra, Q'uo will give you a much more guidence
[10:55] <obany> i have read some off the RA info ..
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[10:56] <samsara2003> Those of Zeta have difficulty understand some 3rd density emotions due to their genetic deliquency
[10:56] <samsara2003> They're more technicians than theologans
[10:56] <samsara2003> so to speak
[10:57] <QueenVee> samsara: yep, i hear ya
[10:58] <obany> i know what kind of stuff a starchild would say or write, Buddha was one ... Jesus was one.. i have been to Mandelker's site
[10:58] <samsara2003> So, take the Zeta material with a grain of salt, as they don't know it all and are not as wise as they sometimes make themselves out to be
[10:58] <samsara2003> That's just my take on it, of course
[10:59] <samsara2003> Though we all have our own way of looking at it
[10:59] <QueenVee> well, i don't see them as trying to make themselves out as wise
[10:59] <QueenVee> just more technologically knowledgeable than us
[10:59] <QueenVee> they are very upfront about the fact that they know nothing more about god than we do
[10:59] <obany> samsara2003: but just don't think that the the book of Ra is of a higher value then ZT
[10:59] <samsara2003> Exactly. They're technicians
[11:00] <QueenVee> in that respect i see them as very honest
[11:00] <QueenVee> i see no reason not to trust them on the information they are providing us
[11:00] <QueenVee> but i can see that they would fall short for someone looking for gurus
[11:01] <obany> keep in mind that Zetatalk says that the lessons about the plan of God are for 6th density
[11:01] <obany> so even those of 5th don't know everything
[11:02] <obany> gee wish that site of that friend of mind would get a little more known in the Netherlands, it's pretty good info
[11:02] <samsara2003> The nice thing about channeled sources is that we can all draw our own conclusions from it and take what we want
[11:02] <humvee> Queen going 2 work now - sent ltr 2 u email - I will wait to fax it till after lunch so u can see it first / bye
[11:03] <QueenVee> okay, bye
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[11:03] <samsara2003> How is preparation going?
[11:04] <QueenVee> it's going
[11:05] <obany> for me ... well ... a friend of mine who knows by intution that it will occur.. who even had his visions .. etc... will go with me .. will go to Sweden in Feb
[11:05] <QueenVee> sorry, i have to disappear for a bit....
[11:05] * QueenVee is now known as Queen-away
[11:05] <samsara2003> You're going to Sweeden?
[11:05] <obany> but i am still here
[11:05] <obany> yes
[11:05] <samsara2003> Where are you now?
[11:05] <obany> Netherlands
[11:05] * juditness is back.. rock steady =x [been gone for: 19hrs 51mins 29secs] at 20:09:21
[11:06] <obany> so not safe at all
[11:06] <samsara2003> I see...probably a good idea to get a little higher up
[11:07] <samsara2003> Inner mountains of sweeden I hear will be best
[11:07] <samsara2003> Better bring shorts with you, it'll be hot
[11:07] <obany> yes ... as the Netherlands will be flooded by the sea
[11:07] <obany> samsara2003: i will :)
[11:07] <samsara2003> Iceland is going to nearly be over the new equator
[11:07] <samsara2003> unbelievable
[11:08] <obany> right and sweden will turn into a tropical country, right now it's below 0 . or so for what i know
[11:08] <obany> like -20
[11:08] <samsara2003> I hate cold
[11:08] <obany> i don't like it either
[11:08] <samsara2003> I can deal with this poleshift as long as I don't have to deal with cold
[11:08] <samsara2003> Cold will get me
[11:10] <samsara2003> I'm considering going a little ways into Canada for the event, but I'll likely wind up somewhere in northern Wisconsin
[11:10] <samsara2003> It should be a little warmer after the shift
[11:11] <obany> as long as will survive that's what's important
[11:11] <obany> as you
[11:11] <samsara2003> I just realized that during the shift, North America is going to moving through the north pole
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[11:12] <samsara2003> I wonder if it'll get frigid during the shift itself?
[11:12] <obany> doubt so as it will occur fast for what i know, right
[11:13] <samsara2003> Right...about an hour
[11:13] <samsara2003> Probably won't make a difference
[11:13] <samsara2003> I bought a shovel the other day
[11:13] <samsara2003> For my PS shelter...lol
[11:14] <samsara2003> Probably be using the hood on my car for shelter
[11:15] <obany> have a shovel already.. one that is used in the army, will have to buy some good boots .. have a knive .. .. but have to buy some other things still
[11:16] <samsara2003> I got some great gordox boots for Christmas
[11:16] <samsara2003> Also have a couple knifes with sharpening tools
[11:16] <samsara2003> Plans for a water distiller...also will probably buy one as well
[11:16] <obany> good thinking
[11:16] <samsara2003> Just looking at the basics
[11:16] <samsara2003> Not sure about food yet
[11:17] <samsara2003> I got a video on eatable plants from the library the other day
[11:17] <samsara2003> Got a book entitled, "Free food" from the library
[11:17] <obany> aha
[11:18] <samsara2003> http://www.distillerwarehouse.com/Nonelec.htm
[11:18] <samsara2003> Non-electric distiller
[11:18] <samsara2003> It runs around 200...150 cheaper than some other distiller I saw on Yahoo shopping
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[11:19] <obany> anod nothing on ebay or so ?
[11:19] <samsara2003> Didn't check ebay
[11:19] <samsara2003> What's the most basic food that will keep you alive...can't you mix wheat and water and live on that?
[11:20] <samsara2003> I want something VERY cheap and VERY abundant that you can fall back on
[11:20] <samsara2003> Any ideas?
[11:20] <samsara2003> The kidn of food the UN ships to Etheopia
[11:20] <Nadine> I am shocked by what I have ljust discovered - I am based in Cambridge, England and urgently need to contact any individual or group in the vicinity familiar with this problem!
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[11:21] <QueenVee> hello Nadine
[11:21] <obany> hi nadine
[11:21] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the poleshift, nadine?
[11:21] <Nadine> Hello everyone!
[11:21] <obany> what did you discovered nadine hi
[11:21] <obany> maybe i will be able to help you
[11:22] <Nadine> About ten months or less - and I didn't really take it seriously!
[11:22] <QueenVee> so when did you start taking it seriously?
[11:23] <Nadine> Any help would be appreciated - I have a three year old son!
[11:23] <QueenVee> ( lived in Cambridge for about 9 months, by the way)
[11:23] <QueenVee> have you read the zetatalk site? www.zetatalk.com
[11:23] <samsara2003> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0967512395/ref=ase_thegroovebox/002-7955830-9136804
[11:23] <samsara2003> Great book
[11:23] <Nadine> I started taking it seriously about two months - and am now scared rigid.
[11:24] <obany> Nadine: there is no need to be scared, calm down a little we are here to hel
[11:24] <QueenVee> start with the ZetaTalk site, specifically the POLESHIFT and AFTERTIME sections
[11:24] <QueenVee> also check out this group's website: www.shift2003.com
[11:24] <QueenVee> our website has just launched a NETWORKING WITH OTHERS section....
[11:24] <obany> QueenVee: don't push her, talk first
[11:24] <obany> just listen what she has to say
[11:25] <QueenVee> the NETWORKING WITH OTHERS SECTION can be found on this page, when you're ready to start thinking about that: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=40
[11:25] <Nadine> I have had a look at a few of the sites but there seems to be a sea of info to digest
[11:26] <obany> let nadine take the time a bit ...
[11:26] <samsara2003> Nadine, you may find my site useful, I've summerized the most pertinent information so you don't have to fish for it : http://www.samsara2003.com/
[11:26] <obany> samsara2003: there you go .... she is her to talk now, not to look at sites :)
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[11:27] <obany> Nadine: don't leave i will return a bit later going to make some coffee and rink a bit
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[11:28] <obany> i will return a little later
[11:28] <samsara2003> Mirc is so much nicer
[11:28] <QueenVee> nadine: please at least copy down the website addresses that we have given you, as they are the best source for information and guidance
[11:29] <obany> but maybe she needs the guidance now from a person and not from a website
[11:29] <QueenVee> but we're also happy to answer any questions you might have (even if it is only to direct you back to those sites)
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[11:29] <obany> she is her to talk now
[11:29] <obany> anyway later
[11:29] <QueenVee> obany: yes, you have expressed that point of view very clearly
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[11:29] <QueenVee> hello spiff, slether
[11:30] <slether> hello qv
[11:30] <Spiff> Hi again
[11:32] <Nadine> This is the first time I have ever communicated with anyone via a chat room and please excuse my inexperience.  When I first heard of this infof from a contact in a Uni dept I looked at the Zetatalk site and the site I found this chat room on and printnted out quite a lot of info but I did not read it.  As a result offurther info fromUni contact I am now pertrified!
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[11:34] <QueenVee> well, you need to give yourself some time to calm down....
[11:34] <QueenVee> what is the nature of the "further info from Uni contact"?
[11:34] <slether> qv, did you get a chance to look at the hoarding laws site that nightbird shared yesterday
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[11:35] <Nadine> Further info is photos from NASA!
[11:35] <Nightbird> Hi everyone
[11:35] <slether> hello nightbird
[11:35] * Looking up Nadine user info...
[11:35] <Nightbird> Hi Slether
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[11:36] <Nightbird> any news?
[11:37] <QueenVee> slether: no, i didn't -- do you have the url?
[11:37] <QueenVee> Nadine: how do you know they were photos from nasa? are they on the web?
[11:37] <Nadine> No - they aren't!
[11:38] <obany> Nadine: and what did you saw on those pictures?
[11:38] <QueenVee> again: how do you know they are photos from nasa. where did your contact say he obtained them from?
[11:39] <slether> brb
[11:39] <Nadine> Can't say - suffice to say the small cross now looks like a very big cross!
[11:40] <QueenVee> ok
[11:41] <QueenVee> so, Nadine: what are you doing to prepare?
[11:41] <obany> so you are well convinced now that it will occur and you seek for guidance .. so that you will less scared so that you could make the right steps
[11:41] <obany> ?
[11:42] <Nadine> obany - have seen pictures and cannot ignore any longer am unsure of first steps - NEED GUIDANCE!
[11:42] <obany> will = will feel
[11:42] <obany> so okay ... we will give it a try ... ..
[11:42] * obany will return a little later going to drink some coffee now
[11:43] <QueenVee> ok, Nadine, what kind of guidance are you looking for
[11:43] <Nightbird> Nadine, are in you in a relatively safe spot now?
[11:43] <Nadine> I cannot find an accurate UK guide to safe locations.
[11:44] <samsara2003> Jeremy's site might offer you some assistance...he's in England himself
[11:44] <Nightbird> seems I remember the Z's saying UK isn't a safe spot
[11:44] <slether> qqv, i wasnt quite sure how to put the url up
[11:44] <Nightbird> that the elite are planning to go to Australia for the shift
[11:45] <samsara2003> England SafeLoc Writeup: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx015.htm
[11:45] <slether> nightbird can you post the site of the hoarding laws for qv please
[11:45] <Nadine> samsara2003, who is jeremy and where can I find him?
[11:45] <samsara2003> Let me get the site...
[11:45] <Nightbird> Sure Let me find them again
[11:45] <samsara2003> http://www.poleshiftprepare.com/
[11:46] <Nadine> Nightbird - I didn't think Australia was very safe!
[11:46] <samsara2003> He has a nice list of supplies - all UK sources
[11:46] <QueenVee> Nadine: first of all, there are no SAFE locations, only ones that are less dangerous than others. England wil not sink during the shift, but you want to get as far inland and away from large population centres as you can
[11:47] <Nightbird> Here you go Queen and Slether
[11:47] <Nightbird> http://209.68.8.137/eo.html
[11:47] <Nightbird> That is a list of Execuative orders about it
[11:47] <slether> thanks alot again
[11:47] <Nadine> QueenVee - I was looking towards Cornwall (Bodmin) or Wales.
[11:48] <Nightbird> Happy to be of service, Slether
[11:48] <QueenVee> your priorities in planning should be 1. ESTABLISH SAFE LOCATION; 2. ESTABLISH SOURCE OF SAFE DRINKING WATER; 3. PREPARE AT LEAST 2 YEARS WORTH OF FOOD FOR THE AFTERTIME; 4. PREPARE AFTERTIME SHELTER; and 5. KNOW HOW TO BUILD YOUR EARTH TRENCH FOR THE HOUR OF THE POLESHIFT ITSELF.
[11:48] <QueenVee> Wales would be good
[11:48] <QueenVee> Cornwall not so good
[11:48] <Nadine> samsara2003 - thank you will look at site.
[11:48] <samsara2003> Highest Point: The highest point in the UK is Ben Nevis, Scotland, which is 1,343 m above sea level.
[11:48] <QueenVee> go as far inland as you can, and as high as you can
[11:48] <Nightbird> Queen also a means of storing the food you can grow.. such as home canner
[11:48] <QueenVee> samsara: the mountains of Wales are pretty high as well
[11:49] <Nightbird> and mason jars
[11:49] <slether> qv very well said
[11:49] <QueenVee> yes, nightbird, we are just dealing with the basics right now
[11:49] <Nightbird> sorry.. been preparing a long time.. and just remembered to suggest that last night
[11:50] <Nadine> Nightbird - how long have you been preparing?
[11:50] <Nightbird> I was prepared for Y2K.. and kept those supplies.. I have since been adding to my supplies
[11:51] <Nadine> Am scared now - do I have enough time to prepare?!?
[11:51] <Nightbird> I have known about the PS for 22 years
[11:51] <Spiff> What kind of supplies Nightbird?
[11:51] <slether> qv did you get the site
[11:51] <samsara2003> You've got time
[11:51] <Nightbird> Water.. I have cisterns to catch rainwater off barns
[11:51] <Nightbird> I have 30 55 gal barrels full of rainwater
[11:52] <Nightbird> 12 buried in the ground
[11:52] <Nightbird> 18 above ground
[11:52] <QueenVee> slether: yes, thank you
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[11:52] <slether> np
[11:52] <QueenVee> hello Mad
[11:52] <Nightbird> I also have 10 drums of canned food sealed on parafin wax
[11:52] <Mad_Hatter> Hi QueenVee!
[11:53] <Nadine> I had understood that being in a large group for survival was best - I don't think that is possible - will I survive in a small unit?
[11:53] <Nightbird> 5 conatiners of dried food sealed on mylar
[11:53] <Nightbird> I ahve seeds stored, hand tools
[11:53] <Nightbird> home canned stews and soups
[11:53] <samsara2003> Nightbird - what do you think of Perma-paks?
[11:53] <Nadine> Nightbird - THANK YOU VERY MUCH - I GET THE PICTURE - I HAVE NOTHING!!!!!!!
[11:53] <Nightbird> femine hygeine products and toliet paper
[11:54] <Nightbird> Perma paks? those little packets you drop in with the dried food?
[11:54] <slether> nadine its time to start
[11:54] <Mad_Hatter> Well it's an abnormally warm day here in Phoenix expect high of 76F.... no normal to say the least.
[11:54] <samsara2003> Nadine - can you provide your email...I can mail you a word document that will get you started with a list...it's only a suggestion
[11:55] <samsara2003> I guess..they're dehydrated options
[11:55] <Nadine> Slether - am trying but very confused!
[11:55] <samsara2003> http://www.josephs-storehouse.com/StorageMethods.htm
[11:55] <Nightbird> I used those packets with my dried buckets of food.. Sam, if that is what you mean
[11:55] <Nightbird> But I also sealed the food in mylar with a perma pak inside as well
[11:56] <Nadine> samsara2003 - will email seperately.
[11:56] <Nightbird> I can't open my Y2K stash to see what shapw its in.. it is quite buried.. only 4 people know wher
[11:56] <Nadine> Nightbird - care to share the info of buried treasure?
[11:57] <slether> nadine youll get it together
[11:57] <Nightbird> I bought sheets of mylar and then used a hair straightening iron to seal it up
[11:57] <Nightbird> Nadine.. I am a long way from England
[11:57] <Spiff> brb
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[11:57] <Nadine> Slether - I hope so for my son's sake!
[11:58] <Nightbird> Queen did you egt that link about hoarding?
[11:58] <Nightbird> EO #10995 Federal seizure of all communications media in the United States
[11:58] <Nightbird> EO #10997  Federal seizure of all electric power, fuels, minerals, public and private
[11:58] <Nightbird> EO #10998 Federal seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private and all farms and equipment.
[11:59] <Nightbird> EO #10999  Federal seizure of all means of transportation, including cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind, and total control over highways, seaports and waterways.
[11:59] <slether> nightbird crazy govt huh
[11:59] <Nightbird> EO #11000  Federal seizure of American people for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government so desires
[11:59] <Nightbird> EO #11001  Federal seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, both private and public
[11:59] <samsara2003> LOL
[11:59] <Nightbird> EO #11002  Empowers the Postmaster General to register all men, women and children in the United States
[12:00] <Nightbird> EO #11003  Federal seizure of all airports and aircraft
[12:00] <slether> thats real deal
[12:00] <Nightbird> EO #11004  Federal seizure of all housing and finances and authority to establish forced relocation. Authority to designate areas to be abandoned as "unsafe", establish new locations for populations, relocate communities, build housing with public funds.
[12:00] <Nightbird> EO #11005  Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways, and storage facilities both public and private.
[12:00] <Nightbird> EO # 11051  Provides FEMA complete authorization to put above orders into effect in times of increased international tension of economic or financial crisis.
[12:00] <Mad_Hatter> FYI - Europe weather report:  http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=1989015
[12:01] <Nadine> Nightbird - do you have the dates of these Orders?
[12:01] <Nightbird> Better hope the stock market doesn't crash
[12:01] <slether> june 6 1994
[12:01] <Nightbird> let me see.. nadine
[12:01] <Nightbird> Yep.. that was one of Bill Clnton's legacies
[12:02] <obany> back back
[12:02] <Nightbird> read it for yourself at http://209.68.8.137/eo.html
[12:03] <slether> thats the main reason why everyone should have a stash spot for food in several locations
[12:03] <obany> Nadine: any more you like to talk about ... as we are still here :
[12:03] <slether> 30 days or more they take
[12:03] <Nightbird> This means that your money that you earn and pay taxes on does not allow you the freedom to by a few cases of toilet paper! You have to ask yourself, who or what is calling the shots at the highest levels here. It is obvious that it is not in the best interest of the American people. You would think a government that really cared about it's people would be delighted if they had a little extra stored away!
[12:04] <QueenVee> OKAY, EVERYONE. I AM PUTTING MODERATION MODE ON FOR A MINUTE. OBANY, PLEASE BE QUIET WHILE MODERATION MODE IS ON.
[12:04] * QueenVee sets mode: +m
[12:04] <QueenVee> Nadine, listen to me for a second: You are having a lot of information thrown at you in this room, and that is NOT the way to begin.
[12:04] <QueenVee>   You need to calm down and start with the basics, and go right to the proper source to ensure you are not given confused, inaccurate, or misleading information
[12:04] <QueenVee> The place to start is the ZetaTalk site. For now, ignore all of the site except the POLESHIFT and AFTERTIME sections.
[12:04] <QueenVee> They can be found on the following pages: POLESHIFT http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p00.htm / AFTERTIME http://www.zetatalk.com/Xtime/x00.htm
[12:05] <QueenVee> In the POLESHIFT SECTION, feel free to skip the history and background aspects, and skip right to the PREPARATION sub-sections that appear in the THIRD PARAGRAPH
[12:05] <QueenVee> Nadine, once you have absorbed this basic information, you will be in a better position to come back here and get further information to build on the basics.
[12:05] <QueenVee> That’s my advice. End.
[12:05] * QueenVee sets mode: -m
[12:05] <Nadine> QueenVee - Many thanks for all your help.
[12:05] <Nightbird> I'm sorry for adding to your confusion, Nadine
[12:06] <obany> so nadine: what do you wanto to know, as maybe i could point to some things, have you been to the safe locations page yet?
[12:06] <Nadine> Nightbird - it's okay I just wish I was in your position.
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[12:06] <Nadine> obany - yes but it refers to England generally and is not very helpful.
[12:07] <slether> nadine it is all alot to take in be patient and youll be alright
[12:07] <QueenVee> Bip-Bip: this is not the chatroom for you, go to #earthchanges or #troubled_times, please
[12:07] <Nadine> Slether - thank you for your kind words.
[12:07] <Nightbird> The thing is don't let yourself become "shellshocked" into not doing anything at all...
[12:07] <Bip-Bip> eh ? um, why, may I ask ?
[12:07] <QueenVee> Bip-Bip: take note:
[12:07] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[12:07] <obany> Nadine: but you know, that you could ask questions about certain areas
[12:08] <Nadine> Nightbird - I think that is the way I am feeling.
[12:08] <obany> QueenVee: for what i remember bip bip is serious about it
[12:08] <QueenVee> not from what i remember
[12:08] <slether> nadine im just glad to see alot of ppl not blinded to the fact of poleshift existing and happening
[12:08] <Nightbird> The thing is don't panic.. and decide what is most important first.. like location
[12:08] <Bip-Bip> hehehe,... familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime <- I am
[12:08] <QueenVee> where are you located, bip?
[12:08] <Bip-Bip> Kosova, Europe
[12:09] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the coming poleshift and zetatalk?
[12:09] <Bip-Bip> hmph,.. since january 2001
[12:09] <QueenVee> Bip: so what are you doing to prepare for the shift? are you in a safe area?
[12:09] <obany> as if you get paniced you could make wrond decisions, wich ain't good... also keep yourself from gettig depressed
[12:10] <Nadine> obany - that is how I am feeling!
[12:10] <Nadine> Slether - if I wanted to involve anyone around me they would think I am nuts!
[12:11] <Nightbird> Nadine.. believe me.. I understand
[12:11] <obany> Nadine: that's something you ain't, you ain't nuts
[12:11] <Bip-Bip> Queen: I'm not exactly in a safe area,.. but I got something you call a 'safe area', yes. and, its safe. Listen if I'm not wanted here for any reason, just say so. I'm into this seriously, I don't wanna caouse any trouble.
[12:11] <slether> yes i  know its happened to me but i still keep my head up and proceed with preparations
[12:11] <Nightbird> They won't prepare, but they will remember that you DID
[12:11] <obany> you feel depressed and down ?
[12:12] <obany> nadine?
[12:12] <Nadine> obany - yes a bit I worry more about my son than myself!
[12:12] <QueenVee> Bip-Bip: as long as you are serious
[12:12] <Nightbird> So I suggest keeping it quiet
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[12:13] <slether> nadine i have a 2 yr old and a month old, and that makes me prepare
[12:13] <Nightbird> Nadine.. after you decide about your location.. next step is water.. you can only live 3 days without it.
[12:14] <Nightbird> food 21 days
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[12:14] <Nadine> Nightbird - I was considering involving in-laws they have skills I do not possess but I don't think I can afford the time to try and convince them.
[12:14] <obany> i can understand that... you want that your child survives it, wich i understand of course ..
[12:14] <Nadine> Slether - thank you!
[12:14] <obany> Nadine: maybe you are capable of doing more things then you think right now
[12:14] <Bip-Bip> stupid internet connection
[12:15] <slether> your welcome
[12:15] <Nightbird> Nadine, perhaps you can ask them wihtout asking them.. such asking to learn how to build something or some other skill they may possess
[12:16] <Nightbird> such as home canning
[12:16] <Nadine> Nightbird - I just can't help thinking it is all too late.
[12:16] <Nightbird> and then "practice" your canning by putting up food
[12:17] <Nightbird> maybe you have more help than you realize
[12:17] <obany> Nadine: there is still time for you to make plans and to realize them, don't try worry that much
[12:17] <Nightbird> the thing is if you let yourself become shell-shocked and do nothing.. it will defintely be too late
[12:18] <slether> good advice
[12:18] <Nightbird> as my dad used to say.. "when the going gets tough.. the tough get going"
[12:19] <Nadine> obany - am born worrier - take after mum!
[12:19] <Nadine> Nightbird - you are absolutely right!
[12:21] <Nightbird> Well folks.. I need to get some housework done.. so I will leave you to it
[12:22] <obany> Nadine: you might could take a look at this http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p150.htm zetatalk about first steps
[12:22] <Nadine> I WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO YOU ALL - AM GOING TO CONSIDER INFO THIS WEEKEND - NOT TONIGHT AM TOO EMOTIONAL.
[12:22] <slether> later nightbird
[12:22] <Nightbird> Nadine.. I will keep you in my htoughts and prayers
[12:22] <Nightbird> Love and Light to you, all
[12:22] <Nightbird> bye
[12:22] <slether> bye
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[12:22] <obany> Nadine: stay calm .. you are going to leave the channel now?
[12:23] <Nadine> obany - have not left yet - I was a bit wary at first but I am so glad I have been able to talk to everyone.
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[12:25] <obany> good to hear that nadine, keep in mind we are still here to chat with you and it's good to talk about it,  keep in mind that you are not alone in this ...
[12:26] <Nadine> obany - thank you!
[12:26] <slether> exactly
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[12:27] <slether> nadine how old is your child
[12:28] <Nadine> slether - 3 years old and a bright spark!
[12:28] <slether> nice
[12:28] <Nadine> lovely age
[12:28] <slether> my 2yr old is a blasts
[12:28] <slether> the month old just sleeps and eats
[12:29] <Nadine> mine asks questions all the time
[12:29] <slether> why, how come,why
[12:29] <slether> lol
[12:30] <Nadine> exactly
[12:30] <slether> my 2 yr old can cast a fishing pole far
[12:32] <Nadine> obany - I feel as though brain is in spin - even with looking at sites how do you just concentrate on info you really need?
[12:32] <Nadine> slether - I hope our children will be able to fish and laugh in aftertime.
[12:33] <slether> your telling me, me tooooo
[12:33] <slether> i try to prepare as often as possible
[12:33] <Nadine> obany - have you gone for coffee?
[12:34] <slether> obany your in canada?
[12:35] <Nadine> slether - I need to change my way of thinking from may be (to help me cope) to get on with it NOW!
[12:35] <slether> yep i agree
[12:36] <obany> slether no i am on the other side of the ocean ..
[12:37] <obany> Netherlands
[12:37] <slether> oh i see
[12:37] <slether> how is it on that side
[12:37] <obany> Nadine: well i know it for some time now about the shift, more then 7 years, so i read most of it
[12:37] <obany> slether: rainy and Belgium having problems with rain etc...
[12:38] <obany> Problems in europe
[12:38] <Nadine> obany - are you in a safe place?
[12:38] <obany> Nadine: not yet
[12:38] <obany> but will
[12:38] <slether> obany where you goin
[12:38] <obany> Sweden
[12:38] <slether> nice
[12:39] <Nadine> obany - how did this first come to your attention?
[12:39] <obany> Nadine: well it was brough to my attention
[12:39] <obany> moment
[12:39] <Mad_Hatter> gotta go...Alice  is calling... must walk dogs... bbl.   PS:   LOVE is always free!
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[12:40] <obany> i know about 2003 since it well was mentioned by the Zetas
[12:41] <Bip-Bip> that's a really long time....what did you first think about it, do you remember obany ?
[12:41] <slether> well everyone bbl have a good day and nadine chat later in this room
[12:42] <Nadine> slether - thank you for kind words and support - much appreciated.
[12:42] <obany> Bip-Bip: well not going to tell you all but let me tell you that i took it serious even then
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[12:42] <Bip-Bip> hm, ok.
[12:43] <Nadine> obany - thank you also.
[12:43] <obany> i was around when zetatalk was only on that forum on iscni ... know it before it got on the world wide web
[12:43] <obany> nadine :)
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[12:44] <Nadine> obany - ;)
[12:45] <Nadine> obany - am going to leave now - but I will return - I hope we can talk more after I have looked at info?!
[12:45] <obany> bye nadine
[12:45] <Nadine> obany - bye bye
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[12:46] <Dsarith> I am playing catch up since I have been away
[12:46] <Dsarith> What pictures did she see?
[12:47] <obany> A:  We are delighted to see an ISCNI member poking about in the Question from
[12:47] <obany> the Netherlands thread!  Welcome, and where have you been?  We felt, for a
[12:47] <obany> time, that ISCNI was considering the Netherlands to be apart from the rest of
[12:47] <obany> the world, or certainly the United States.  We are all one world.  http://www.zetatalk.com/index/iscnilog.htm  wich is from March 1995 know about 2003 since then
[12:47] <obany> Dsarith: she says she saw pictures of a cross in the sky from Nasa, but that ain't on the web
[12:48] <Dsarith> I didnt think it was
[12:48] <Dsarith> hmmmph
[12:48] <Bip-Bip> mm nice.
[12:48] <Bip-Bip> she saw pictures from nasa ??? what ????
[12:49] <Bip-Bip> pics from Hubble or what ?
[12:49] <Dsarith> No idea
[12:50] <Dsarith> She said she just saw the pictures and was worried
[12:50] <Dsarith> Said it was on the NASA site, but there are not pictures of a cross on the NASA site
[12:50] <Bip-Bip> hehe, I see pictures all of the time :P.
[12:50] * obany will go to a friend now ...
[12:51] <Dsarith> Ok Obany have a good time
[12:51] <Dsarith> See you tomorrow
[12:51] <Bip-Bip> but no seriously, obany,.............on their website ? hmmm....
[12:51] <Bip-Bip> bai
[12:51] <Dsarith> It would not be on NASAs site. They will be the last to admit it
[12:52] <Bip-Bip> yeah... I wonder what got into her.....
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[13:25] <Ogmios> hello
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[13:31] <sotos> Hello all
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[13:39] <Funk> hello
[13:40] <Funk> HELLO
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[14:01] <Funk> HELLO
[14:03] <Ogmios> hi
[14:03] <Funk> yellow
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[14:08] * juditness is away.. night. [mail: judit@geekychick.org] at 23:11:22
[14:08] * Queen-away is now known as QueenVee
[14:08] <funkpen> WB QV
[14:08] <QueenVee> hi inkpen
[14:08] <funkpen> very quiet here
[14:08] <QueenVee> yes, well, i haven't been here much myself....
[14:09] <funkpen> niether :)
[14:09] <QueenVee> i'm having a very difficult day
[14:09] <funkpen> really? computer troubles?
[14:10] <QueenVee> no, my dear old dog had some kind of a stroke last night, and i'm taking him to the vet's in about an hour to have him put to sleep
[14:10] <QueenVee> it was not unexpected
[14:10] <funkpen> O...
[14:10] <QueenVee> but still hard
[14:10] <funkpen> im sorry'
[14:10] <QueenVee> he's had a great life, it's his time to go
[14:10] <funkpen> that can be very difficult
[14:11] <funkpen> evrything moves on
[14:11] <QueenVee> he was diagnosed a year ago with congestive heart failure, so everyday of the last year has been a gift
[14:11] <QueenVee> it was just a matter of time
[14:11] <funkpen> mmm, im sure your dog has fully enjoyed life
[14:12] <QueenVee> he's had little spells before now, but he has always rallied and his quality of life remained high...
[14:12] <funkpen> thats good
[14:12] <QueenVee> but that's not the case now, he's disoriented, has some paralysis on one side...
[14:12] <QueenVee> but he does not appear to be in any pain whatsoever
[14:12] <QueenVee> otherwise i'd be a complete basketcase
[14:13] <funkpen> indeed...its hard to see the ones you love suffer in any form
[14:13] <QueenVee> yes, but especially an innocent animal, for some reason
[14:13] <QueenVee> just breaks your heart
[14:13] <QueenVee> as it is, it was so hard to see him fall over a couple of times when we went for a walk earlier
[14:14] <funkpen> that would be difficult
[14:14] <QueenVee> but he took advantage of the moment, and decided to have a roll in the snow while he was down there....
[14:14] <funkpen> lol
[14:15] <funkpen> that is very light harted of him :)
[14:15] <QueenVee> he's always been a glass-half-full kinda dog
[14:15] <funkpen> heheh
[14:15] <QueenVee> has taught me a lot
[14:16] <funkpen> thats good if you two were able to learn from each other :)
[14:16] <QueenVee> i don't think he learned anything from ME -- except maybe how to avoid getting hit by cars....
[14:17] <funkpen> heh...even for dogs that is a good thing to know
[14:17] <QueenVee> yeah, high up their on the list of skills to have
[14:17] <funkpen> some people could learn that too
[14:17] <QueenVee> lol
[14:17] <funkpen> heh
[14:17] <QueenVee> yeah, and some people could use a good roll in the snow now and then
[14:18] <funkpen> very true :)
[14:18] <QueenVee> dogs live in the moment
[14:18] <QueenVee> and that's why they're such a delight to have around
[14:18] <funkpen> for sure
[14:18] <QueenVee> because when you're with them, you're forced to live in the moment as well
[14:18] <funkpen> hehe ive noticed that :)
[14:19] <funkpen> brb...need more coffee
[14:19] <QueenVee> me too...
[14:23] <Ogmios> -22C outside...and the next week will be cold too
[14:24] <funkpen> back
[14:25] <funkpen> mmm good, microwaved coffee
[14:25] <QueenVee> hi ogmios
[14:25] <QueenVee> i have fresh, myself
[14:25] <Ogmios> listening jean michel jarre concert from tv
[14:25] <funkpen> heh...fresh is best
[14:25] <QueenVee> i need all the coffee i can get to face what i have to face
[14:25] <funkpen> indeed
[14:25] <QueenVee> then i'll need a good 40 ouncer of vodka
[14:26] <funkpen> lol
[14:26] <funkpen> thats quite a bite
[14:26] <QueenVee> hey, when i drink i DRINK
[14:26] <Ogmios> drinking 8% beer now
[14:26] <funkpen> heheh
[14:27] <QueenVee> i drink a danish beer called Faxe -- 10% beer
[14:27] <Ogmios> i drink karhu
[14:27] <QueenVee> finnish beer?
[14:27] <Ogmios> yes
[14:27] <Ogmios> my hometown beer
[14:28] <funkpen> you finnished your beer already?'
[14:28] <funkpen> :)
[14:28] <QueenVee> Canadian beer is pretty good, 5% to 8% alcohol
[14:28] <Ogmios> one of the best in finland..some say its the best
[14:28] <QueenVee> but American beer sucks big time
[14:28] <QueenVee> 3-4% alcohol
[14:28] <funkpen> 3% LOL
[14:29] <Ogmios> hehe
[14:29] <QueenVee> or has it gone up in recent years?
[14:29] <funkpen> where was it... i was watching on tv a program about beer
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[14:30] <funkpen> and there is this speceal mixture cook stirr up in beer...for which country they do this... beer is considered a delicacy
[14:30] <funkpen> an eu country
[14:31] <QueenVee> hi sonik
[14:31] <funkpen> hi sonik__, have i seen you befor?
[14:31] <QueenVee> what part of the world are you in, sonik?
[14:32] <sonik__> L.a.
[14:32] <sonik__> i've been here before
[14:32] <sonik__> i would like to see one of the zetas chat with us ;P
[14:32] <QueenVee> well, there's a zetatalk session in here every saturday
[14:33] <funkpen> what nick did you use last you were here sonik
[14:33] <funkpen> ?
[14:33] <QueenVee> did you have a specific question for them?
[14:33] <sonik__> this one
[14:33] <sonik__> why are you interrogating me funkpen? lol
[14:33] <funkpen> oky
[14:33] <sonik__> oh no
[14:33] <sonik__> just here to chat
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[14:33] * sonik is now known as Sonik23
[14:33] <QueenVee> what did you want to chat about sonik?
[14:33] <Sonik23> pole shift of course
[14:34] <Sonik23> i live in l.a. so if i want to live i'd have to move
[14:34] <funkpen> of coarse :)
[14:34] <Sonik23> so in the next couple of months i have to make a decsion
[14:34] <QueenVee> where are you planning to move to sonik?
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[14:34] <funkpen> hi doro-hog
[14:34] <QueenVee> hello Doro-Hog
[14:34] <Doro-Hog> evening
[14:34] <Sonik23> i've heard austrailia is safe
[14:35] <Sonik23> but probably vancouver if its safe
[14:35] <QueenVee> Doro: you're in Finland, right?
[14:35] <funkpen> heh
[14:35] <Doro-Hog> yes
[14:35] <QueenVee> Vancouver is not safe during the poleshift
[14:35] <Ogmios> eastern australia is safe
[14:35] <funkpen> umm some of ustralia, maney
[14:35] <QueenVee> and only central australia is safe
[14:35] <Ogmios> western half will sunk
[14:35] <QueenVee> Ogmios is in Finland as well
[14:35] <Ogmios> yes
[14:35] <Sonik23> what part of canada is safe
[14:35] <QueenVee> southern part
[14:36] <QueenVee> Alberta is good
[14:36] <QueenVee> Manitoba, Ontario, parts of Quebec
[14:36] <funkpen> bcs good too, gonna be warmer here ):
[14:36] <funkpen> :)
[14:36] <QueenVee> yes, eastern bc
[14:36] <QueenVee> but ya gotta stay away from the coast during the shift
[14:37] <funkpen> definately
[14:37] <funkpen> no vertical earthquakes for me pleaz
[14:37] <QueenVee> ha, yes
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[14:37] <QueenVee> well, inkpen, i have to go and do the deed now
[14:37] <funkpen> good luck
[14:37] <QueenVee> Guest: please change your name to something other than Guest or you will be automatically disconnected
[14:38] <funkpen> and ill see you later
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[14:38] <Iskatel> Hello there
[14:38] <funkpen> hi
[14:38] <funkpen> HELLO
[14:38] <QueenVee> yeah, you'll see me here later drunk
[14:38] <QueenVee> hello iskatel
[14:38] <funkpen> lol
[14:38] * QueenVee sets mode: +o funkpen
[14:38] * QueenVee sets mode: +o obany
[14:38] <funkpen> good idea
[14:39] <QueenVee> later
[14:39] * funkpen sets mode: -o funkpen
[14:39] <Iskatel> I watched my TV today, it's terrible new about Europe, the floods.. ohh
[14:39] <funkpen> lol
[14:39] <funkpen> !op inkpen
[14:39] <QueenVee> you don't want to be op?
[14:39] <Iskatel> I were skeptic till this time
[14:39] <Iskatel> Now i'm not
[14:39] <funkpen> no im just working something out with chanserv
[14:39] <QueenVee> yes, iskatel, the weather is getting insane
[14:39] * QueenVee sets mode: +o funkpen
[14:39] <funkpen> in case i have to leave and come vack
[14:39] <QueenVee> sorry, but i have to go now
[14:40] <QueenVee> i'll be back later
[14:40] <funkpen> seeya
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[14:40] <funkpen> now why didnt this user auth properly???
[14:40] <funkpen> hmmm...
[14:40] <funkpen> one way to find out
[14:41] <funkpen> YAY!
[14:41] <funkpen> worked!
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[14:42] <funkpen> better start using regular nick
[14:42] * funkpen is now known as inkpen
[14:43] <inkpen> iskatel-away: what are your views on the poleshift?
[14:43] <Sonik23> isnt our DNA supposed to be upgraded?
[14:43] <Sonik23> or something like that
[14:43] <inkpen> no
[14:43] <inkpen> why would that happen?
[14:45] <Sonik23> start using more than 10% of our brains
[14:45] <inkpen> there are hybrids which contain our dna yes... but i believ that human genectic altering through mechanical methods is no longer going on
[14:45] <Sonik23> unlock the 12 strands of dna or something
[14:45] <inkpen> ytouve been reading to many markiniak books :)
[14:46] <inkpen> and we already use more than 10% of our brain
[14:46] <inkpen> that is an old wives tale
[14:47] <inkpen> ill get a link
[14:49] <inkpen> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/gray/186.html#i678
[14:49] <inkpen> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/gray/187.html
[14:49] <inkpen> and on and on
[14:51] <inkpen> interesting read
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[14:56] <obany> hello
[14:57] <Ogmios> hi obany
[14:57] <obany> Sonik23: check http://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h00.htm
[14:57] <iskatel> inkpen - i don't afraid this cataclysm, i don't have safe place but i know that i will not die, for this is some reasons
[14:58] <inkpen> that is good
[14:58] <inkpen> HELLO
[14:58] <inkpen> obany
[14:58] <iskatel> :)
[14:58] <inkpen> HELLO
[14:59] <inkpen> iskatel
[14:59] <iskatel> inkpen
[14:59] <iskatel> :-)
[14:59] <inkpen> gatta have manners :)
[14:59] <iskatel> Nice nick
[14:59] <inkpen> thanx yours is interesting
[14:59] <iskatel> I'm from Ukraine
[14:59] <inkpen> cool....logn ways away
[14:59] <iskatel> Yep
[15:00] <iskatel> Our country will be very safe, i have read this on the Zeta site
[15:00] <iskatel> But i think i will need a boat soon :-)
[15:01] <iskatel> And God help
[15:01] <inkpen> heheh
[15:01] <iskatel> I'm not good in English though :-)
[15:02] <inkpen> np...im not good at speaking ukraine
[15:02] <inkpen> :)
[15:02] <iskatel> hehe :-)
[15:03] <iskatel> Do you build your safe place ?
[15:03] <inkpen> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/gray/fig/681.html goo pic of part of brain
[15:04] <iskatel> Wow Zetas anotomy
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[15:04] <inkpen> hia juditness z
[15:04] <iskatel> Wow, the brains make really impress
[15:05] <inkpen> ues they are very complex
[15:05] <juditness> hi inkpen
[15:06] <iskatel> I think if Zetas watch our TV programs they will be shocked, we in most parts of our life look like a barbarians
[15:06] <obany> not Zetas anatomy
[15:06] <obany> human
[15:06] <inkpen> brb
[15:06] <iskatel> And i guess to get knowlege about this brains, they killed this alien
[15:07] * inkpen is away: in desperate need of tidying kitchen...back right quik
[15:07] <obany> iskatel: that's the human brain
[15:07] <obany> it's not the anatomy of a gray
[15:08] <inkpen> lol...i bet a zetas brain is 10 fold more complex :)
[15:08] <iskatel> Really, hmm but it don't seems a human brains
[15:08] <obany> he Bartleby.com edition of Gray's Anatomy of the Human Body features 1,247 vibrant engravings - many in color - from the classic 1918 publication, as well as a subject index with 13,000 entries ranging from the Antrum of Highmore to the Zonule of Zinn.
[15:08] <iskatel> :-)
[15:08] <inkpen> it is the center of the brain, and part of the stem
[15:09] <iskatel> Oh
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[15:09] <inkpen> no wait
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[15:09] <inkpen> it is The Hind-brain or Rhombencephalon
[15:10] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[15:10] <iskatel> I seems not good in human anatomy
[15:10] <iskatel> :-\
[15:11] <obany> inkpen: well yes i think it's more complex ... anyway different then ours  
[15:11] <inkpen> ya
[15:12] <Zetapal> James McCanney site update:
[15:12] <Zetapal> http://neworac.dayton.net/full/viewtopic.php?t=1653
[15:12] <Zetapal> here's the page with the lectures on pX etc:
[15:12] <Zetapal> http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/p0000010.htm
[15:12] <inkpen>  ~~*      .o    O
[15:13] <inkpen> damnb
[15:13] <iskatel> Guys, where do we know that after cataclysm they just not make peoples like a slaves ?
[15:13] <iskatel> Is any warranty of this ?
[15:13] <inkpen> ~~*      .o    O
[15:13] <inkpen> YAY!
[15:13] <Zetapal> there ya go inky
[15:14] <inkpen> alrighty...brb
[15:14] <obany> iskatel: they won't turn us into slaves ... don't worry about that
[15:14] <iskatel> I hope it's so.. but what about Reptoids ?
[15:15] <iskatel> I heared they much bloody, they hate humans and Jesus name
[15:15] <iskatel> I'm a few years reading ufology books and i heared about it
[15:16] <iskatel> Who will protect us then ?
[15:16] <obany> iskatel: just read about Service to Self and Service to Others ... and read about the change to 4th density
[15:17] <iskatel> Oh yes i remember this chapter, but where do we know that all it's really working
[15:17] <iskatel> It's hard to understand
[15:17] <iskatel> And hard to take as truth
[15:17] <obany> well i understand it... so don't worry about human eating reptois enslaving us
[15:18] <iskatel> Time will show anyway
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[15:23] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c10.htm  http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c49.htm  and the rule section of ZT http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r00.htm
[15:30] <iskatel> A few days ago, we with my wife was walking by the park at the evening time, and i saw the
[15:30] <iskatel> moveing star on the sky, when i put my finger on the sky place where this star was moveing
[15:31] <iskatel> that to show my wife where i saw it, the star was immediately light off and was fast move from our eye
[15:31] <iskatel> And i'm sure that it were aliens
[15:31] <iskatel> I usually like to look on the night sky and i saw many interesting things
[15:31] <obany> might have been a ufo
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[15:32] <iskatel> I'm sure that it wasn't a satellite
[15:32] <inkpen> hi walt
[15:32] <walt> hi
[15:32] <inkpen> ~~*      .o    O
[15:33] <iskatel> So if aliens even don't like to be shown, even on the far sky.. doesen't it's mean that they seems do some dark affairs ?
[15:33] <iskatel> Why need to hide like a thiefs ?
[15:34] <walt> because they have no mouthes to smile to the camera
[15:34] <iskatel> Why just don't turn off the ship