Session Start: Wed Jan 08 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <hummer> scooby priv chat
[00:01] <scooby-atwork> sorry hummer... got a call...
[00:11] <hummer> good nite
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[00:28] <scooby-atwork> nite
[00:28] <scooby-atwork> to anyone left....
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[00:42] * juditness is back.. HI!!!! [been gone for: 9hrs 6mins 56secs] at 09:44:09
[00:54] <elwood> Hello all.
[01:05] <elwood> When Planet X is a no-show, you can find Nancy Lieder at 115 Lieder Street, North Freedom, Wisconsin 53951, (608) 522-4365.
[01:05] <Ixtalan> ......
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[01:06] <Ixtalan> lol
[01:06] <Ixtalan> later all
[01:06] <Ixtalan> OneLove
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[01:11] <obany> mmmm seems that our good friend himitsu showed someone how to get to Nancy's house in a posting of his
[01:12] <juditness> so?
[01:14] <obany> well,  would you like to have stranger knocking on your door ... yelling at you .. cause you have done something wrong in their eyes /?
[01:15] <obany> there is still a matter of privacy i think
[01:16] <obany> their=his/her
[01:17] <juditness> well
[01:18] <juditness> they aren't knocking on anyone's door.
[01:18] <juditness> it said "When Planet X is a no-show, you can find Nancy Lieder..."
[01:18] <juditness> maybe in may they will start knocking on that door.
[01:18] <juditness> who knows.
[01:19] <tenshu`zz> lol
[01:19] <tenshu`zz> if planet-x is a no show.. there's gonna be some pissed off people
[01:20] <juditness> *some*? :)
[01:20] <obany> well her adress is their to find, so i could see your point ..
[01:20] <obany> it's Nancy who said " they will burn me at the stakes"
[01:20] <tenshu`zz> heh yeah ALOT of pissed off people
[01:21] <juditness> obany, why do you treat nancy as if she was some sort of a leader and a superior being?
[01:21] <juditness> she's a person like you and me
[01:21] <juditness> and not a prophet
[01:21] <juditness> sorry.
[01:21] <juditness> you can ban me for this
[01:21] <juditness> although you know i never get into these discussions
[01:22] <juditness> but uhh... treating some woman as if she was a goddess just because the zetans supposedly talk to her... is silly.
[01:22] <obany> i don't think she is a goddess or so
[01:22] <tenshu`zz> wow .. i just noticed alot of people starting to say its not gonna happen
[01:23] <juditness> it is not my place to say whether it's going to happen
[01:23] <juditness> imo it won't, but i keep that to myself.
[01:23] <juditness> i am not gonna try to convince believers that they are wrong.
[01:23] <obany> juditness: is just here for other purposes, ... she is well basicly allowed to stay here
[01:23] <tenshu`zz> so why don't you think it's gonna happen?
[01:24] <obany> ask that in private please
[01:24] <juditness> tenshu`zz: i am not going to get into this discussion any further. sorry.
[01:24] <tenshu`zz> okay sorr.
[01:24] <juditness> not even in private.
[01:24] <tenshu`zz> sorry*
[01:24] <juditness> mainly because i have to work soon, and because i am not going to try to convince anyone.
[01:25] <tenshu`zz> lol not gonna convince me. i'm just curious on others view points but sorry :)
[01:25] <juditness> it's ok
[01:25] <juditness> i couldn't give you any scientific reason anyway.
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[01:25] * tenshu`zz shrug
[01:25] <sotos> hello
[01:26] <juditness> i simply think it isn't gonna happen... and that is it.
[01:26] <juditness> =)
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[01:26] <tenshu`zz> hehe :)
[01:29] <tenshu`zz> i'm havin a hard time believing it and not beliving it at same time. that's why i'm curious..
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[01:31] <sotos> A personal "Geiger-Miller" module "radiation detector" will be a MUST after the PS. Many areas will be full of radiation.
[01:32] <sotos> Their price starts at $200 and up. A model like ND20 will be perfect for everyone. http://www.ndsproducts.com/LI.htm
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[01:35] <sotos> Hello
[01:40] <sotos> test
[01:40] <tenshu`zz> hi
[01:40] <sotos> hello
[01:41] <sotos> hard time believing?
[01:42] <sotos> By April you will be sure.. if it comes or not
[01:42] * tenshu`zz nods
[01:42] <tenshu`zz> i know.
[01:44] <sotos> where are you tenshu?
[01:44] <tenshu`zz> indiana
[01:44] <tenshu`zz> few miles south of kokomo
[01:44] <sotos> Wow cool place ee?
[01:45] <sotos> nice girls!
[01:45] <tenshu`zz> haha
[01:46] <sotos> try to save those girls ;)  They will help you after the ps..
[01:46] <obany> they said for what i read a kind of prediction that the full moon will occur on April first, .. .. a day sooner
[01:47] <tenshu`zz> heh. some of 'em can be nice :)
[01:48] <sotos> Obany yes at the past session ZT says that
[01:48] <BoY> full moon in april is in middle of month
[01:48] <BoY> new moon is on april fool day
[01:51] <sotos> Obany What Nancy do as a job?
[01:52] <obany> sotos: i don't know... but she does have a job
[01:52] <sotos> ok
[01:54] <sotos> When She communicate with ZTs.. Does she need to be alone in a quiet place ? or She can communicate any time? Those Answers at the sessions are preanswered or real time or both?
[01:57] <sotos> ?
[01:58] <tenshu`zz> i'ma try to get what sleep i can.
[01:58] <tenshu`zz> see ya
[01:59] <sotos> bye zz
[01:59] <tenshu`zz> haha zz = sleep ;)
[01:59] <sotos> :)
[01:59] <obany> sotos: all answered: http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t115.htm   
[01:59] <sotos> thank you Obany..
[01:59] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t110.htm
[02:00] <obany> and there is a bit more over here
[02:00] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t00.htm
[02:00] <sotos> ty ;)
[02:06] <sotos> I wonder if we can ask them if that earthquake prediction method is valid http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo23b.htm ... or any other simmilar way
[02:06] <sotos> them = ZTs
[02:08] <scooby-afk> yeah, I wondered about that
[02:08] <scooby-afk> brb
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[02:10] <sotos> maybe we can schedule that question to Nancy..
[02:11] <sotos> It could save lifes
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[02:16] <obany> btw keep in mind that the Zetas and i know this question is about something else , can't say when and at what place an earthquake will occur  
[02:20] <sotos> Ok .. but to say just "it is working" or "not working" about a method already discused inside Nancys site, It will be no warning for comming earthquakes. Is just a validation on human technology,.. as in many parts inside ZT site discuss the human technology as to be good, bad, workin, not working.
[02:24] <obany> okay will return later ...
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[02:25] <Tizza> hey
[02:26] <sotos> hi tizza
[02:26] <BoY> hi <Tizza>
[02:27] <Tizza> so were you allat?
[02:27] <BoY> i am disappointed in the pole shift senario date as i still have unfinished bussiness i want to complete
[02:28] <Tizza> starting to look like ya better speed it up a little :)
[02:28] <sotos> same with me...:)
[02:29] <sotos> Good time for loans :)
[02:29] <Tizza> i see bush is about to pump a massive amount into U.S.'s ecconemy....the problem is now so large he cant hide it anymore
[02:30] <BoY> i hope zeta aren't wrong on date & it happens sooner
[02:30] <Tizza> maybe you could ask him for a loan?
[02:30] <sotos> heh
[02:30] <Tizza> just say your from israel :)
[02:30] <Tizza> interest free....never have to pay it back !!
[02:31] <BoY> they can't pay the minimum on the credit crd any more
[02:31] <sotos> Bush doen't care about economy anymore. It is obvious!
[02:31] <Tizza> can you print a figure that big on a credit card?? wow i want one!!
[02:31] <Tizza> scary to actually see tho
[02:32] <Tizza> either of you two in america?
[02:33] <BoY> i am in us of a
[02:33] <sotos> I am in Athens Greece
[02:33] <Tizza> greece...hows that volcanoe in the mediteranian going over there?
[02:33] <BoY> i like gulosh
[02:34] <BoY> mt etna
[02:34] <sotos> We have earthquakes every single day , sometimes 2 or 3 per day
[02:34] <Tizza> that sounds like the one...tho wasnt one going to come up thru the sea?
[02:34] <BoY> is greece a safe location according to zeta's
[02:35] <sotos> Not much :)
[02:35] <Tizza> sotos : you would normaly have some tho yes?
[02:35] <sotos> I have some plans for safe locs in Greece
[02:35] <sotos> but not comleted my serch yet
[02:36] <sotos> Olympus mountain shows good
[02:36] <BoY> r u gonna wait till px is visible is sky
[02:36] <Tizza> im in aust...Z's say a rough ride but should fair ok
[02:37] <sotos> No No hehe I am prepering my self every day, and 1 month before I pick my people and go to hide
[02:37] <Tizza> guess that would depend on how fast this bloody war gets out of control and things get hairy
[02:37] <BoY> many r awaiting to see px in sky before move to safety place, i wonder where there faith is in Zeta talk
[02:38] <sotos> I only feel sorry for the Good people around earth, after that I wish the ps to come to clean the "dirt"
[02:38] <sotos> It is time to change , don't you think?
[02:38] <Tizza> think we're all waiting for that
[02:39] <BoY> change is a constant
[02:39] <Tizza> just alittle more vigorous at times :)
[02:39] <BoY> whoa!
[02:40] <BoY> yes
[02:40] <Tizza> sorry....slight understatement there :)
[02:41] <Tizza> so are you just stockpiling stuff or r you figuring out the "long term" issues
[02:42] <sotos> ZT is extrimely logical...As non has found ever any dublicated missinformation. SO they know very well what is going to hapen and their infos can't be wrong.
[02:43] <BoY> <Tizza> where did you hear about the land up rising in Mediterranean etna area
[02:43] <Tizza> while the Zeta's argument and explantions is very compeling,i believe i would be foolish to trust 100%....tho i am getting closer to that figure as world events unfold
[02:44] <BoY> yes trust but tie your ca,el as the arabs say
[02:44] <BoY> camel
[02:44] <Tizza> boy : not sure now...could have been rense or something
[02:44] <Tizza> thats it,a "fall back" so to speak
[02:44] <BoY> that comes from the cayce readings
[02:44] <BoY> about rising land
[02:45] <Tizza> oh? oh ok
[02:45] <Tizza> didnt know that
[02:45] <Tizza> may be able to find a link
[02:47] <BoY> Hutton site is good info about him
[02:47] <BoY> http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/index.html
[02:48] <BoY> & earth changes
[02:48] <sotos> The fact that Nancy can't in any way have all that lifetimes knowledge is a strong proof.
[02:48] <Tizza> soz...cant remember were i saw it...the article said they were expecting an under water eruption that would force up a new peice of land in the mediteranian
[02:49] <Tizza> compeling yes ...proof....not so sure
[02:49] <BoY> the proof is in the dates a coming real soon
[02:49] <Tizza> this stunt of bush's has certainly backed up the claim of a big crash and it being proped up
[02:50] <BoY> 1 way or the other
[02:50] <Tizza> to a cinema near you !!
[02:50] <Tizza> "reality tv"
[02:51] <sotos> ofcourse is better to prepear than denie ZTs, as the ps in reaaly on next corner
[02:51] <Tizza> naturaly :)
[02:51] <Tizza> i always try to prepare for all outcomes no matter whot the situatuion is
[02:52] <sotos> A personal "Geiger-Miller" module "radiation detector" will be a MUST after the PS. Many areas will be full of radiation.
[02:52] <Tizza> i've found it does create more stress but a smoother trip thru life :)
[02:53] <BoY> preparing for pole shift may be possible but after time is another story
[02:53] <Tizza> i believe Aust will have very minimal due to us not having any...only one plant on the east coast
[02:53] <sotos> Their price starts at $200 and up. A model like ND20 will be perfect for everyone. http://www.ndsproducts.com/LI.htm
[02:54] <sotos> There are places "factories" with radioactive materials that we do not know
[02:54] <Tizza> wouldnt the amount of radiation post poleshift be directly related to wether we have nuclear war?
[02:54] <BoY> i heard radiation can't penetrate 6 inches of salt..do you know
[02:54] <Tizza> if we dont then it should be dispersed relativly well wouldnt it
[02:55] <sotos> Salt apears as a sheald on radiation but is known not so praktical
[02:55] <Tizza> no idea if the salt bit works or not
[02:56] <BoY> salt is cheap
[02:57] <sotos> A radioactive uniform is cheaper ;)
[02:57] <Tizza> why is the story from the bible coming to mind something about " leave this place and dont look back or you shall turn to salt" one looked back and turned to salt....i believe this story could have been about a nuclear exchange]
[02:57] <BoY> would asbestos suit help
[02:58] <Tizza> i forget now which  city it was but it was definatly destroyed in one hit according to the bible
[02:58] <sotos> Alote of it ..yes
[02:59] <sotos> http://www.uscav.com/shop/uscsearchresultsr.asp?search=ctgy&subcatname=Biological%2FChemical&catname=Personal+Protection
[03:00] <BoY> that site is for Biological/Chemical what about radiation
[03:01] <Tizza> interesting site that Hutton one...ill scope it later but now im outa here...l8r :)
[03:01] <sotos> cya tizza
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[03:05] <sotos> No I haven't any URL for radioprotective suits right now, and I don't know any. By "cheaper" I meant other protections "salt" will be unpracticaly expencive
[03:06] <sotos> Radioactive Suits there are in fire stations
[03:06] <sotos> and governmental groups for emergeny maters
[03:07] <sotos> Radioactive protection suit gives you freadom to move
[03:07] <BoY> yes it would
[03:08] <BoY> i already have asbestos suit
[03:08] <sotos> radioprotective shelters can give you a good hide ...but for how long can you stay there
[03:08] <sotos> ?
[03:08] <BoY> till u gotta go to bathroom.
[03:08] <BoY> :)
[03:09] <sotos> So if you have a friend in Fire department...you know what to ask him
[03:09] <BoY> oh yeah
[03:10] <sotos> The difficult part is that you have to save other people "friends ""family"
[03:10] <BoY> have to..bogus
[03:11] <BoY> also if 1 had radiation suit , another would want it if seen
[03:11] <sotos> right..
[03:12] <sotos> But breathing masks is a MUST and are chip
[03:12] <BoY> got 'em
[03:12] <sotos> What is your Job?
[03:13] <BoY> right after 911 i bought shipment on ebay & marked 'em $! & sold same day kept several for my slef
[03:13] <sotos> ;)
[03:14] <BoY> am unemployed
[03:15] <sotos> That is the best job :)
[03:15] <BoY>  use to be a printer before i quit
[03:16] <BoY> then went into home repairs
[03:16] <sotos> I work my business 2 years now and I find it extremely dificult to stay on bussiness, as nobody invest or have money those days
[03:17] <BoY> it's true people r not spending like they were
[03:17] <sotos> Is a counddown for bussiness all around countries
[03:17] <BoY> waiting to see what happens i think
[03:19] <sotos> I do outdoor advertising... When I start had dreams, now I try to pay checks to stay alive
[03:19] <sotos> Nothing on the horizon
[03:20] <BoY> it's the same ole story went from 1 bread winner to 2 , now even that don't get many ahead
[03:20] <BoY> just pay the bills
[03:20] <sotos> The only hope for me is the PS :)
[03:21] <sotos> terrible to say so
[03:21] <BoY> yes i'd say so
[03:21] <sotos> but if GOD want that I welcome it
[03:21] <BoY> pole shift senario is worst than anything
[03:22] <sotos> terror..
[03:22] <BoY> yes it's the keyword of our time
[03:22] <sotos> Are you maried?
[03:23] <BoY> it bothers me when i realize what effect it has on the children growing up in world of terror
[03:23] <BoY> am divorced
[03:24] <sotos> It will be worst to matures I think...as children are easy adaptable and acceptable than matures who has already lived in a confort world..
[03:28] <sotos> As ZT sead after Summer the earth will be quite livable
[03:29] <BoY> it wil take decades for things to calm down after poleshift
[03:29] <BoY> long term
[03:30] <sotos> So the children will rather think of it as an adventure, on the other hand matures having their responcibilitys will drive them craizy
[03:30] <BoY> nobody will see adventure in pole shift if they understand what it is
[03:31] <BoY> catstraphy
[03:32] <sotos> Sure decades, volcanos even centuries. But most of floods and other unnatural events will be calm during next months
[03:32] <sotos> of ps
[03:32] <BoY> oh maybe but still food/water surviavl will be on going struggle
[03:33] <sotos> Childrens have their own reality limits, in fact the understanding of ps will be expressed to them more kindly to their world.
[03:34] <BoY> the struggle will be man against man more than likely
[03:34] <sotos> Guns is a must as well
[03:36] <sotos> not for annimals "not many if any" but for other humans trying to take from you..
[03:36] <BoY> to me i see that possibilty
[03:39] <BoY> what you think aboutthe density stuff  sto/sts
[03:39] <BoY> sounds like humanitarism
[03:41] <tenshu`zz> i'm a child myself
[03:41] <sotos> how old?
[03:42] <tenshu`zz> 14 when i found all this out.. 16 now.
[03:43] <tenshu`zz> alright i have to go to school
[03:43] <sotos> your parnts know about ps?
[03:43] <tenshu`zz> nah they don't. i'm almost ready to break the news to em
[03:43] <tenshu`zz> they are divorced so i think im gonna give it to my dad first
[03:43] <sotos> ok cya zz :)
[03:43] <tenshu`zz> hehe
[03:43] <tenshu`zz> =P
[03:44] <tenshu`zz> take care everyone. peace love light
[03:44] <sotos> Boy how old are you?
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[03:45] <BoY> 43
[03:46] <sotos> I am 35
[03:46] <BoY> been aware of pole shift over 20 years
[03:46] <sotos> how come so early?
[03:46] <BoY> only thing with this zeta talk is a date has been given
[03:46] <BoY> specific 1
[03:47] <BoY> before that it was just this time frame with out a specific date
[03:49] <sotos> makes you think eee?
[03:51] <BoY> i do beleieve pole shift is coming whether may 15 or so is date is up in air still
[03:51] <sotos> So after all those years knowing about the comming ps... How much convinced you are in percentage
[03:51] <BoY> many have been preparing for years & years
[03:51] <sotos> I know
[03:51] <BoY> precentage of what
[03:52] <sotos> For example I give 90% the ps is comming
[03:52] <sotos> sometimes more I guess
[03:52] <BoY> 100% that pole shift is imminent
[03:53] <BoY> not 100% certain of exact date tho
[03:54] <sotos> ZT said around 15 may.. That can be a -+week i Guess
[03:54] <BoY> yes
[03:56] <sotos> I plan to install a container on a horizontal place on a mountain
[03:57] <BoY> i threw my plans out the window & realized all i need is trust
[03:57] <sotos> away from trees and falling rocks
[03:58] <sotos> Trust who? your self? or god? or both?
[03:59] <BoY> i don't think i can do it with my knowledge witout divine guideance least i make an error
[03:59] <sotos> So when you plan to move to safe place?
[04:00] <BoY> i think i oughta be there already yet am not so now maybe late feb or even ait till it's in sky,,just don't know
[04:01] <BoY> with all the plans i have made in my life & what actually happened i know my plans mean little in the scheme of things
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[04:02] <BoY> yet i still think / plan
[04:02] <sotos> That is general truth to all I guess
[04:03] <sotos> Anyway I wish you find your way soon
[04:03] <sotos> As to everyone else including my self
[04:04] <BoY> it was said that the fire captain that died at wtc use to say to the fireman "make plans" in reference that it coincided with god's
[04:05] <sotos> I see your point...but we have to fight
[04:06] <BoY> yes it seems so
[04:06] <sotos> Is in our blood
[04:08] <BoY> the only thing that seems to matter is if we r in divine compliance or not...nothing else
[04:08] <sotos> We know alote thank to ZT. Fire captain didn't had any plan prepeared for the twins attack. So he was unprepeard, listening only his internal voice saying make a plan
[04:09] <BoY> the fire captain gave the most anyone could give his life to help others
[04:09] <BoY> no plan reaction
[04:10] <BoY> he was the fire chaplain i meant
[04:14] <sotos> I mean he couldn't imagine that the buildings will fall.
[04:14] <BoY> nope
[04:15] <sotos> We can imagine what will hapen at the ps more or less
[04:15] <BoY> i got call from a stem fitter who was working with a steel worker,,they knew it was coming down before it did
[04:15] <BoY> steam fitter
[04:16] <BoY> so did the fire captains i believe
[04:16] <sotos> Maibe..
[04:17] <sotos> maybe he did
[04:17] <sotos> the thing is if Bush knew...
[04:18] <sotos> what will hapen to the twins
[04:18] <BoY> twins?
[04:18] <sotos> There are some senarios saying that he his inteligence groups knew
[04:19] <sotos> twins = wtc
[04:21] <sotos> I have to go right now....I'll see you later BoY..bye
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[04:22] <BoY> all i know is the people that tell me about it are same 1's that say oswald shot kennedy in 60's....bogus
[04:22] <BoY> it was a miltary coup
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[04:24] <BoY> we are now facing what he said in 1 of his last speeches in 60  with atomic bomb to kill planet 10x , if don't get it in check now what r we gonna do when many small rogue nations will have it
[04:24] <BoY> it was him who got the above ground test ban signed
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[04:28] <obany> quiet here
[04:29] <BoY> hi obany
[04:29] <obany> hi
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[04:30] <obany> hi VB
[04:30] <VB> hello
[04:30] <VB> so what's all this about the pole shift..?
[04:30] <obany> well VB : check www.zetatalk.com   
[04:30] <VB> I've just been scooting about following links after checking out this raelian guy
[04:31] <VB> I've been there
[04:31] <VB> looked for the IRC chat room and there was 1 person in there who didn't say that much
[04:31] <VB> well... didn't say anything actually
[04:31] <obany> and did you read about the pole shift, keep in mind this has nothing to do with the raelian cult
[04:32] <VB> scanned through a previous discussion... but thought I'd find a bit more out first hand chatting.. you know..
[04:32] <VB> is it a planetary pole shift..?
[04:32] <obany> zetatalk basicly .. says then in some 4 months and 2 weeks a pole shift will occur ..
[04:32] <obany> around the 15th of may
[04:33] <VB> well as far as I'm aware the last pole shift could have been the previous cause of the Ice age
[04:33] <obany> that will cause world wide destruction and a decrease in the popluation of the earth by a 90%
[04:33] <VB> looks like we're in for a cold year.... :
[04:34] <obany> VB: well it was some 3657 years ago the Exodus of Moses, but the Ice age also has to do with it. ...
[04:34] <obany> an earlier on
[04:34] <obany> e
[04:35] <VB> It's funny... I've had a lot of theories about life the universe and everything... I've never really came across anybody who thought the same things as I have always done... then all this stuff about the raelian movement... it's a bit scary that they kinda go on about things I've always thought myself
[04:35] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p146.htm you might read this
[04:35] <VB> although I'd never heard of them until the cloning thing on the news the other day
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[04:36] <obany> VB: http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m75.htm is what zetatalk says about Cloning and Clonaid
[04:36] <Igorenia> hi
[04:36] <VB> hello
[04:36] <obany> " Thus, cloned human infants are being developed, have been developed, but until the product is certain, no publicity will be forthcoming. Those making the most noise, however, have not, themselves, done this cloning. They are seeking the spotlight, and have secured it, as no court in the land can force them to produce something protected under doctor/patient laws."
[04:36] <VB> have you read any Immanuel Velokovsky....?  [obany]
[04:37] <obany> VB: i had worlds in Collision (the dutch translation) at at home a couple of times fro the library
[04:37] <obany> so i know what the says
[04:38] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword082.htm
[04:38] <VB> I just liked the angle he took on things... even though a lot of people say he was a charletan and only wrote the books for the money
[04:39] <VB> intersting
[04:40] <obany> i don't think he was like a charlaten VB .. i think he was honest in his books ... he didn't know about Planet X so he tought that Venus was to blame
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[04:40] <obany> zetatalk says he was a starchild with a mission
[04:41] <VB> I agree... there was a lot left to guessing on his part to fill in the gaps , but it certainly doesn't take the fact away that a lot of what he had to say was very valid...
[04:42] <VB> as with everything today and in the past... recognised scientist will refute anything they cannot explain as nonsense
[04:42] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p52.htm
[04:42] <obany> moment
[04:42] <obany> brb
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[04:43] <VB> agreed...
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[04:43] <VB> this is the first time I've been able to discuss these topics with anyone who dowsn't think I'm mad
[04:44] <obany> well i disagree with the Rael movement, but i take earthchanges and zetatalk serious ..
[04:44] <obany> and you ain't MAD
[04:44] <VB> lol
[04:45] <VB> I don't know anything about these raelians... but it's always interesting to find something else that's leads to a little more insight... or lets you consider things from a different angle
[04:46] <obany> i find zetatalk way more truthfull and it rings a bell for me... not like the Rael Movement ..   
[04:46] <VB> Do you think we evolved on this planet or were placed here or even developed here...?
[04:52] <obany> Not places, but being involved yet, but not by the Elohim as Rael says.. according zetatalk more alien races played a role .. check about genetic contributions http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w18.htm
[04:53] <obany> and http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s24.htm
[04:53] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w30.htm
[04:53] <obany> places=placed
[04:54] <obany> just a typo :P
[04:54] <VB> interesting...
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[04:59] <obany> yes it is
[05:01] <VB> I must say I'm not a religious person, although I do more than any other believe in the principles of Bhudism... but do you think that references in the bible have been misinterpreted in the past
[05:01] <obany> yes, and twisted around ...
[05:01] <obany> and i like some of the principles of Budhism too ..
[05:02] <VB> even people I know tend to forget that the bible was made up of many scripts from different ages and different places... it's not just the story of Jesus and his life
[05:02] <obany> zetatalk says that the 10 commandments are Service to Self base, and so does the book of RA (wich is some channeled info)    
[05:03] <obany> zetatalk says that there is no such thing as "sin"
[05:04] <obany> and "
[05:04] <obany> egarding Jesus being the Son of God. This is a touchy subject. As the saying goes, if one wants to remain above a bickering argument, don't talk about religion or politics. However, it seems a third item should be added to this list, that being the alien presence. As we are already embroiled in controversy, what's a little more heat?
[05:04] <obany> Jesus was not an ordinary man, but he was no more the son of God than any other human. Jesus was an entity from a higher dimension, who had earned the right to function in a higher density, that being above 3rd Density."
[05:04] <VB> I had thoughts about the story of Noah... I [even when I was young] was very interested in new developements... and when I learbt about DNA thought that that would have been the easiest was to preserve all the different species of life... you certainly wouldn't need a big ship... just a small vessel
[05:05] <VB> you lost me... [3rd density]
[05:06] <obany> Zetas live in 4th density, .. the there is 5th density (no body anymore) . earth is now in 3th density, but will move into 4th density in some hundred years ... plants, animals etc are in 2tn density , rocks are 1st density  
[05:07] <obany> and then there are the orientations
[05:07] <obany> Service to Others - Service to Self .. and there are people who are still undecided
[05:08] <obany> btw brb
[05:09] <VB> similar to the beliefs of enlightenment... or the same booko with a different cover
[05:10] <obany> VB: http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d00.htm  http://www.zetatalk.com/orientat/o00.htm
[05:10] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d11.htm
[05:11] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d05.htm
[05:11] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m01.htm
[05:13] <VB> Do you think that death is the end... or the step to another level...?
[05:13] <obany> VB: reincarnation
[05:14] <obany> so i don't believe dead is the end
[05:14] <VB> possibly... I unsure about re-incarnation... I just think my physical body obviously dies and an etheral mart my 'self' becomes part of something else
[05:15] <obany> VB: reincarnation seems well also very logical to me in fact
[05:16] <VB> I just can't think that there are so many people who have died and are waiting in limbo to become once again living and learn more abouts the mistakes they made in a previous existence
[05:17] <VB> therewould just be too many people in the waiting room...
[05:17] <VB> who takes priority..?
[05:17] <VB> and when do you get frsh people... not reincarnations..?
[05:18] <obany> it has to do with lessons also ... VB ..... in 3th density one has to make a choise... so reincarnation is used for that (as far as i understand)
[05:19] <obany> VB: http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d23.htm
[05:19] <VB> I say I don't firmly believe in reincarnation... but I think that I have personally had a past existence... or am influenced by a person who existed before myself
[05:20] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d57.htm
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[05:20] <obany> and here why incarnations are done http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d53.htm
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[05:23] <VB> sounds quite a lot like bhudism to me
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[05:23] <tex-away> hi obany
[05:23] <obany> maybe so VB
[05:23] <obany> Buddha was also a starchild acc zetatalk http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m28.htm
[05:25] <obany> this about Jesus and this about Mohammed http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m25.htm
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[05:32] <QueenVee> hello VB
[05:32] <VB> hello
[05:32] <obany> Queen
[05:32] <obany> hail to the Queen
[05:33] <obany> :P
[05:33] <obany> i bow for you my queen :P
[05:33] <VB> lol
[05:33] <VB> So QV... are you the enlightened master of these here parts...?
[05:33] <QueenVee> no, just the master
[05:33] <QueenVee> hehe
[05:33] <VB> lol
[05:34] <VB> I've had quite an interesting convo with obany
[05:34] <QueenVee> actually, i like to think of myself as a benevolent dictator
[05:34] <VB> ooh... nice
[05:34] <QueenVee> you're in the UK i see
[05:34] <VB> I am
[05:34] <VB> U..?
[05:34] <QueenVee> southwestern ontario canada
[05:34] <QueenVee> it is only 8:30am here
[05:34] <VB> nice... chilly up there..?
[05:34] <VB> 13:34 here
[05:35] <QueenVee> no, because of PX we've been having unseasonably warm winters for several years now
[05:35] <VB> PX...?
[05:35] <QueenVee> Planet X
[05:35] <VB> I see
[05:35] <QueenVee> so what brings you to this room, VB?
[05:35] <VB> Well because of Planet x we've been having unseasonably cold summers her in the UK
[05:36] <QueenVee> yes, and severe flooding.... and now snow i understand....
[05:36] <VB> Well I was checking out this raelian stuff I've been hearing about and followed a couple of links which led me to zetachat ..[noone there]... spotted poleshiftdiscussion and thought I'd pop in
[05:37] <VB> seems like I've found some peeps who share the same views as yours truly
[05:38] <VB> quite refreshing really to have been chatting about something my frineds and family would would have thought me mad for even thinking
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[05:38] <QueenVee> well, this is a chatroom for those who are quite familiar with zetatalk and the coming poleshift....
[05:38] <vn> u guys know any very active messageboards about conspiracys, ufo's etc ?
[05:38] <QueenVee> no, vn
[05:39] <vn> okay
[05:39] <vn> I once had one but I lost the address
[05:39] <VB> I'm not familiar with zeta talk.. until today... obany has been kind enoug to post urls to the various points in my conversations where it is all explained in zetatalk
[05:40] <obany> It has a lot of info VB, and it has a search function too and a keyword page ..
[05:40] <QueenVee> VB: you'll find this room more useful once you have familiarized yourself with the basics there, as there is a lot assumed in the conversations here, a kind of shorthand takes place....
[05:40] <obany> so that you can look up things
[05:40] <vn> I read it constantly last summer,but now I have been a bit off lately...
[05:40] <VB> I have read most of velikovsky so I suppose that's where my personal thoughts were first realized by someone else
[05:41] <QueenVee> vn: have you been here before, where are you located?
[05:41] <QueenVee> VB: good start....
[05:41] <vn> I was here once before,i live in finland
[05:42] <VB> I gotta shoot for an hour or so... hope to speak to you when I get back QV... I'll stay in the room while I'm gone so I can catch up on the convo if you don't mind
[05:42] <QueenVee> VB: if you are not in the room, please change your nick to VB-away
[05:42] <QueenVee> do you know how to do that?
[05:43] <vn> vb you here first time?
[05:43] <obany> /nick newnickname
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[05:43] <obany> k
[05:43] <QueenVee> excellent....
[05:43] <QueenVee> see you later
[05:43] <vn> well i'm here first time with this nick at least..I just came up with this..quite a coinsidence :)
[05:43] <VB-away> yup...1st time... hopefully not the last
[05:43] <VB-away> cya later y'all
[05:43] <QueenVee> vn: please stick with one nickname so as not to confuse things...
[05:43] <vn> c you
[05:44] <vn> i will
[05:44] <QueenVee> we are careful about who we allow in here, and if i recognize your nick i'm not likely to interrogate you
[05:44] <vn> okay but I'll leave now
[05:44] <vn> cya
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[05:45] <tex-away> hi QV
[05:45] <QueenVee> heya tex
[05:46] <QueenVee> i may have found a new dog...
[05:46] <tex-away> that is great
[05:46] <tex-away> what kind
[05:46] <QueenVee> a 3 year old beagle
[05:46] <obany> ah ..
[05:46] <QueenVee> i had a beagle when i was a kid, so i'm quite partial to the breed.... plus a beagle will be useful in the aftertime.... they're excellent hunters....
[05:47] <QueenVee> but they're small enough to suit my current apartment size
[05:47] <QueenVee> my cousin heard that someone is looking to give him away, and is just waiting to hear back from him...
[05:48] <tex-away> i wish the best.. i'm off to work
[05:48] <QueenVee> our cat misses Ben something terrible
[05:48] <QueenVee> ok tex...
[05:48] <QueenVee> have a good one
[05:49] <tex-away> they are all good... some just better than others
[05:49] <QueenVee> good attitude  ;-)
[05:51] <obany> http://www.itv.com/news/World1422160.html flood alert for Paris or so
[05:52] <QueenVee> wow, look at that
[05:53] <QueenVee> amazing
[05:54] <obany> the last line about the cold "
[05:54] <obany> Government ministers admitted the cold snap had caught them by surprise and apologised for the traffic chaos."
[05:55] <QueenVee> ha
[05:55] <QueenVee> things are out of control
[05:55] <obany> yes for real
[05:55] <QueenVee> and it's only going to get worse
[05:56] <obany> i agree on that and you know that :)
[05:56] <QueenVee> hehe
[05:56] <QueenVee> they all think they're dealing with temporary situations
[05:57] <obany> yes, but it's not temporary ...
[05:57] <obany> wonder what will be the next thing to happen
[05:57] <QueenVee> yelp
[05:57] <QueenVee> yep
[05:58] <QueenVee> i feel pretty sheltered here, no extreme weather....
[05:58] <obany> last year there where periods of time that it well all seemed fine .. ..like short breaks but this year    
[05:58] <QueenVee> how people must be feeling in the places that it is hitting hard...
[05:58] <obany> over here it's well okay too .. in fact. not extreme or so ..
[05:59] <obany> but that well is the danger of it, it seems like nothing is going .. on
[05:59] <QueenVee> so much that's not even making the news....
[05:59] <obany> but if you only look around you ..
[06:00] <obany> and check the Internet
[06:00] <obany> it's overwhelming
[06:00] <QueenVee> all the press coverage of the cyclone in the solomon islands, but that was followed by strong earthquake activity -- no one has mentioned that....
[06:00] <obany> earthqukes ther ?
[06:00] <obany> there?
[06:00] <QueenVee> yep, solomon islands
[06:01] <obany> mmmm forgot that ususaly i know where to find the nws etc
[06:01] <QueenVee> yep, 5.8, 5.5, 5.3....   http://www.emsc-csem.org/cgi-bin/ALERT_all_messages.sh
[06:01] <QueenVee> yesterday
[06:06] <obany> sigh
[06:06] <obany> anyway going now to job that is, but took a paracetemol at first, ... have a bit of a cold and so
[06:06] <obany> i will return later on
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[06:07] <QueenVee> bye obany
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[06:13] <Spiff> hi there!
[06:13] <QueenVee> hello spiff
[06:13] <Spiff> How are yoy today QV?
[06:14] <QueenVee> not bad, gotta go to the doctor's soon.... trying to get some stuff on the website before i go....
[06:14] <QueenVee> lots of news today
[06:14] <Spiff> Question:
[06:14] <QueenVee> getting difficult to keep up
[06:14] <QueenVee> shoot
[06:15] <Spiff> Don't you think it should be any transmitting traffic from PX vy now?
[06:15] <Spiff> "by now"
[06:16] <Spiff> Like radio knitter sprakling stuff etc.
[06:16] <QueenVee> transmitting traffic?
[06:17] <Spiff> If the planet contains human look alike I don't think they communicate with snail mail
[06:17] <QueenVee> Spiff: well, no, for several reasons (1) it's still very far away, (2) they are technologically more advanced than us and probably do not use radio transmission anymore; and (3) the planet is quarantined from us, which i imagine would include any communication static....
[06:18] <Spiff> even if they have more advanced stuff it should be something
[06:19] <QueenVee> Spiff: that's like a primitive society that communicates with smoke signals wondering why a more advanced society is not producing smoke signals as well.... and assuming they must not be there, or must not be communicating because of the lack of smoke signals....
[06:20] <Spiff> You right I guess we have to wait and see
[06:20] <QueenVee> remember, we're dealing with ALIEN beings and planets, so everything about them is going to be ALIEN....
[06:20] <QueenVee> we can't make assumptions
[06:21] <Spiff> Of course we don't know yet how doplhins communicate
[06:21] <Spiff> But they do.....
[06:21] <QueenVee> exactly
[06:21] <Spiff> Even Doplhins are Alien for us
[06:21] <QueenVee> yep
[06:22] <QueenVee> zetas communicate by telepathy -- and we can't monitor that....
[06:23] <Spiff> I'm a believer that we not have anything imaterial
[06:23] <Spiff> soo if we had instrument or mind that could tune in we could hear them
[06:23] <Spiff> But don't understand
[06:24] <Spiff> Nice talking to you any great news today?
[06:24] <QueenVee> just tons and tons of weather-related stuff.... it'll all be on the website later today....
[06:25] <QueenVee> :-)
[06:26] <Spiff> You want to hear something fishy
[06:26] <Spiff> Out temperature raised from -35C to +7C in matter of 1 day and 1 night
[06:26] <QueenVee> wow, where's that?
[06:26] <Spiff> Know falling again
[06:26] <Spiff> Sweden
[06:27] <QueenVee> geez, yeah, we're having the same thing here in canada, wild temperature fluctuations
[06:27] <Spiff> High up north app. 4 hours from polarcircle
[06:43] <QueenVee> well, i'm off to the doctor's now, be back later
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[09:31] <QueenVee> hello yggdrasil
[09:31] <yggdrasil> herro
[09:31] <yggdrasil> how u doing?
[09:32] <QueenVee> i'm good, just got back from the doctor's
[09:32] <yggdrasil> oh yea?
[09:32] <yggdrasil> real doctor or a ...
[09:32] <QueenVee> just a check-up, after my operation
[09:32] <yggdrasil> um
[09:32] <yggdrasil> what operation
[09:32] <QueenVee> hysterectomy, 6 weeks ago
[09:33] <QueenVee> everything's a-ok
[09:33] <yggdrasil> they removed your hystory ?
[09:33] <QueenVee> lol
[09:34] <yggdrasil> what is that ?
[09:34] <QueenVee> hysterectomy is removal of the uterus
[09:34] <yggdrasil> whoa
[09:34] <yggdrasil> that sucks baby
[09:34] <QueenVee> routine operation these days
[09:36] <yggdrasil> well glad to hear everthing is ok
[09:37] <QueenVee> yep
[09:38] <yggdrasil> u need any work done ?
[09:45] <QueenVee> yeah, i need some dental work done
[09:49] <yggdrasil> haha
[09:49] <yggdrasil> im hungry can u help me
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[10:14] <humvee> aloha
[10:14] <QueenVee> hello humvee
[10:14] <QueenVee> how's the weather in hawaii, it's going nuts everywhere else
[10:15] <humvee> its birght n beatiful morning here jus a little cold 4 us @ 70 deg tho
[10:16] <humvee> how is the queen's country?
[10:16] <QueenVee> cold, right
[10:16] <QueenVee> unseasonably warm
[10:16] <humvee> good
[10:17] <humvee> we r sorting stuff today into needed vs going 2 the dump now
[10:18] <humvee> preparation we decided is not having too much
[10:18] <QueenVee> exactly right
[10:18] <QueenVee> i've been doing a lot of that myself lately
[10:18] <QueenVee> actually, i've been doing it over the past year
[10:19] <QueenVee> i got rid of most of my stuff when i moved here to stay with my mother, a year ago, seeing the need to "travel light"....
[10:20] <humvee> & b ready for several dif outcomes
[10:20] <humvee> 2 stay r to move etc
[10:20] <QueenVee> exactly
[10:20] <QueenVee> a difficult balance
[10:20] <humvee> a must do
[10:21] <QueenVee> but it's very liberating to free yourself from your "stuff" whether there's a poleshift coming or not
[10:21] <humvee> I will never before ben this organized
[10:21] <yggdrasil> yea tell me about it
[10:21] <humvee> all tools found & sorted
[10:21] <yggdrasil> i jsut had to move houes
[10:21] <yggdrasil> houses
[10:21] <yggdrasil> i love steve miller
[10:23] <QueenVee> steve miller?
[10:23] <humvee> the gay rights activist?
[10:24] <yggdrasil> is he?
[10:24] <QueenVee> not heard of him, sorry -- why did you bring him up...?
[10:25] <yggdrasil> cuz im listenign to him
[10:25] <QueenVee> is he in the news?
[10:25] <yggdrasil> mean harmonica palyer
[10:26] <QueenVee> i see -- plays with a band?
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[10:27] <QueenVee> hello obany
[10:30] <yggdrasil> go dl some tunes
[10:30] <yggdrasil> be happy with his magnicficense
[10:30] <yggdrasil> um
[10:31] <yggdrasil> magninfisence
[10:39] <humvee> back 2 work now - later
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[10:41] <humvee> QV: did anyone mention the guy (value) who came on cussing @ us 4 an hour last nite
[10:41] <humvee> jurian or who ever was moderator was asleep
[10:41] <QueenVee> no....
[10:41] <QueenVee> when was that?
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[10:42] <QueenVee> humvee: you should have got his ip address
[10:42] <QueenVee> hello abdull -- what brings you to this room?
[10:42] <humvee> yea we spent time during time new ppl wanted 2 inter act - dealing w/disrupt
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[10:43] <humvee> is there a way some 1 who is on be @ temp 4 such times
[10:43] <Abdull> fuck
[10:43] <QueenVee> yes, i'm very very sorry -- i should have ensured someone was opped before i leave
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[10:43] <humvee> np jus thought i would mention it
[10:43] <Abdull> mata
[10:44] <Abdull> fuck
[10:44] <QueenVee> Abdull: did you just come on here to swear?
[10:44] <humvee> bye 4 now
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[10:45] <Abdull> sorry i swered
[10:45] <JurAFK> Abdull: swear again and I'll ban you from the network
[10:45] <QueenVee> what's your problem?
[10:45] <Abdull> ok
[10:45] <Abdull> i am ok
[10:45] <QueenVee> what are you here for, Abdull?
[10:45] <Abdull> for girls
[10:46] * QueenVee sets mode: +b *!*@213.233.102.204
[10:46] <JurAFK> well, you wont get any if you just say "fuck"
[10:46] * Abdull was kicked by QueenVee (buy bye Abdull)
[10:46] <JurAFK> at least add "please"
[10:46] <JurAFK> fool
[10:46] <QueenVee> lol
[10:46] <QueenVee> a little foreplay would be nice too
[10:46] <obaway> eheheh
[10:46] <JurAFK> yah :P
[10:48] <JurAFK> hrm, a romanian
[10:48] <JurAFK> that explains it then :)
[10:48] * JurAFK is now known as Jurian
[10:48] <Jurian> I swear, I've *never* seen a romanian on IRC, that behaved himself
[10:48] <Jurian> in over 6 years
[10:49] <QueenVee> ha
[10:49] <obaway> Abuse contact : abuse@xnet.ro :)
[10:49] <QueenVee> oafs
[10:49] <QueenVee> well, those guys must be busy....
[10:49] <Jurian> with what? getting girls?
[10:50] <Jurian> if they all use that approach.. they're gonna be busy for a while
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[10:50] <obaway> right, that aproach doesn't work :P
[10:50] <Jurian> "sex, you, me, now"
[10:50] <Jurian> very intelligent :)
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[10:51] <QueenVee> oh, great, thanks Julian
[10:51] <obaway> you said it the moment someoene joined Jurian hehehe :P
[10:51] <Jurian> err, buh :/
[10:51] <Jurian> it was in quotes..
[10:52] <Jurian> oh buh.. I"ll just go away again, this day stinks anyway
[10:52] * Jurian buries his dead pc
[10:52] <QueenVee> hehe
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[11:01] <obaway> QueenVee: http://www.fr1.cyberabuse.org/whois/?page=whois might be easy on occasion
[11:03] <QueenVee> well, what does that do, obany?
[11:03] <obaway> fill in the part after the @ and you can find the contact info etc.. IP range etc
[11:03] <QueenVee> oh...
[11:03] <QueenVee> and then what?
[11:03] <obaway> if someone is real abusive
[11:04] <QueenVee> yeah....
[11:04] <QueenVee> how would you use that information to stop them?
[11:05] <obaway> well not for IRC purposes, but if someoene let's say is pinging you sending abusive emails all the time ... the nasty things then it can be used
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[11:06] <RNTHOMAS> Howdy all... How goes it?
[11:06] <obaway> fine fine
[11:06] <QueenVee> obany: how can it be used?
[11:06] <QueenVee> hi rn
[11:06] <QueenVee> how's the weather on the west coast today?
[11:06] <RNTHOMAS> good to hear...  Just takin a quick pause before lunch...
[11:08] <RNTHOMAS> Probably beautiful everywhere else...
[11:08] <obaway> QueenVee: by sending a email to the provider .. wich also is included with that whois ... that's how .. but only for the nasty type of behaviour .. not for ban evasions etc..
[11:08] <RNTHOMAS> We have the typical Port Alberni inversion today..
[11:08] <RNTHOMAS> Very fogged in in Port Alberni...
[11:08] <QueenVee> ah
[11:08] <RNTHOMAS> That usually means SUNNY to an extreme in Vancouver / Parskville and Nanaimo...
[11:09] <obaway> it's a little below zero here ..
[11:09] <obaway> and going to a friend later on
[11:09] <RNTHOMAS> But Port Alberni is in the bottom of a deep hole...  When it's cool, we get fogged like this thru the winter...
[11:09] <RNTHOMAS> The paper mill pumping water vapour into the air doesn't help...
[11:09] <obaway> sigh ... they are talking now on sci.astro about nominating Nancy for the kook of the month award
[11:09] <obaway> what next
[11:10] * obaway is now known as obany
[11:10] * obany is now known as obaway
[11:10] <QueenVee> obany: hey, keeps em occupied
[11:10] <RNTHOMAS> Well, Steve's pics are hardly "in your face" conclusive at this time...  
[11:10] <QueenVee> obany: oh, you would have laughed....
[11:10] <QueenVee> that Elwood guy was in here last night....
[11:11] <obaway> and?
[11:11] <RNTHOMAS> When Px occupies about 1/2 the pic, and they can see the whites of the onanaki's eyes, then maybe
[11:11] <QueenVee> you know, the one who said talking to us was like talking to a bunch of heroin addicts?
[11:11] <RNTHOMAS> they'll believe...
[11:11] <QueenVee> obany: when he came in, i said, hey elwood, got any stuff, man....
[11:11] <QueenVee> he said what do you mean?
[11:12] <QueenVee> i said, you know, heroin, stuff...
[11:12] <QueenVee> he said "i don't know what you're talking about...."
[11:12] <obaway> and?
[11:12] <QueenVee> i said well, didn't you say something on sci astro about our all being like heroin addicts in this channel?
[11:12] <QueenVee> long silence
[11:13] <QueenVee> then, oh, yeah, i did say that
[11:13] <QueenVee> i said, funny thing is, we don't remember you talking to us....
[11:13] <QueenVee> you just came in here and said you wanted to listen, not talk....
[11:13] <QueenVee> long silence
[11:13] <obaway> ehhehe
[11:13] <QueenVee> so he says, well, i don't feel like talking with you tonight either
[11:13] <QueenVee> i said, good -- cause we don't feel like talking to you
[11:13] <QueenVee> KICK
[11:13] <QueenVee> BAN
[11:14] <obaway> go figure
[11:14] <QueenVee> buh bye Elwood
[11:14] <RNTHOMAS> QV: I sometimes wish I were a heoin addict...  I wouldn't have to worry about all this Px stuff... It means a pile more work on my part... LOL!
[11:14] <obaway> heehehe
[11:14] <QueenVee> RN: you and me both; i'd love to escape reality....
[11:15] <obaway> anyway will return later going to drink some coffee now .. and then to a friend of mine ... bye and later
[11:15] <QueenVee> obany: what? no heroin?
[11:15] <obaway> nope ... coffee. no herion ,, but i got some coke if you want it ?? :P
[11:15] <QueenVee> hehe
[11:15] <QueenVee> later gator
[11:16] <RNTHOMAS> Hmm.. obany is a drug addict...   Caffine!!!
[11:16] <RNTHOMAS> So am I... Sugar and Caffine...
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[11:17] <QueenVee> hello sotos
[11:17] <sotos> Hello :)
[11:17] <RNTHOMAS> Howdy sotos...
[11:18] <QueenVee> how's the weather in greece today?
[11:19] <sotos> It was ok in general ...18 celsius
[11:19] <sotos> wind and sun sometimes
[11:20] <QueenVee> not bad
[11:20] <sotos> no rain yet... but whethr reports are worried for comming floods
[11:20] <QueenVee> really? floods predicted?
[11:20] <sotos> And the earth opens in Greece in many areas
[11:21] <RNTHOMAS> Must be nice...  Port Alberni is the only place on the west coast that keeps an almost Permenant Wet, Damp soggy think fog cloud above it!
[11:21] <RNTHOMAS> It's sunny everywhere else on the west coast of Canada...  If I drive about 2 K out of the city limits, the cloud is gone...
[11:22] <RNTHOMAS> GRRR! It sucks, whine whine snibble snibble!
[11:22] <QueenVee> weird
[11:22] <sotos> Yesterday inside Athens A huge hole opens 30 meters wide side by side
[11:22] <QueenVee> sotos: the earth opens -- you mean quakes?
[11:22] <RNTHOMAS> Sinkhole.
[11:22] <QueenVee> sotos: ????
[11:22] <sotos> a car drops inside 20 meters deep
[11:22] <QueenVee> my god!
[11:22] <sotos> and the houses around have cracks
[11:23] <QueenVee> oh, my god -- i just inputted the word "sinkhole" into Google News, and it has produced a SLEW of stories about sinkholes all over....
[11:24] <sotos> also.. In Gianena vilage 40 kilometers square ground travel 30 meters
[11:24] <sotos> earth opens and eats houses..
[11:25] <sotos> earthquakes every single day...even 2 or 3 quakes per day
[11:25] <sotos> I am not sure I will be alive after ps :)
[11:25] <QueenVee> okay: check this out, in New York City: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/08/nyregion/08COLL.html?ex=1042693200&en=cd7084ad3ac246fa&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
[11:26] <sotos> gotit..
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[11:26] <QueenVee> hello mara -- what brings you to this room?
[11:26] <sotos> I also read your first page news..are realy extreme!
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[11:26] <QueenVee> yep -- and that's only half of them, i'm still posting
[11:27] <QueenVee> oh, right....
[11:27] <QueenVee> hope you're having fun, David
[11:28] * QueenVee sets mode: +b *!*@Montreal-ppp3536620.sympatico.ca
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[11:28] <QueenVee> what a jerk
[11:29] <QueenVee> ah, sotos....
[11:29] <QueenVee> i've found it: http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_100003_08/01/2003_24962
[11:29] <QueenVee> thank you for bringing that to my attention!
[11:30] <sotos> my pleasure
[11:31] <QueenVee> building collapses in india too: http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=40329
[11:33] <sotos> Landslides
[11:33] <sotos> Landslides continued in the small community of Plaka in the mountainous area of Zagori, near Ioannina in northwestern Greece, for the fourth day in a row yesterday. Experts said it was safe for Plaka residents to remain in their homes — for the time being — although stables and vehicles have been buried in tons of earth and rocks over the last few days. The mud yesterday reached the Ioannina-Trikala national road but caused no traffic pr
[11:34] <sotos> http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/news/politics_11252506KathiLev&xml/&aspKath/politics.asp?fdate=08/01/2003
[11:35] <QueenVee> geez, i can't keep up with this....
[11:38] <sotos> My future job plans are meaningless :(
[11:38] <QueenVee> it's looking very bad....
[11:39] <sotos> brb
[11:39] <QueenVee> i'm feeling very badly for my brother; after many years of financial problems, he now has a thriving restaurant business and is doing well....
[11:45] <sotos> ..
[11:47] <sotos> well lets say that GOD knows what he is doing..!
[11:47] <QueenVee> i hope so
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[11:48] <QueenVee> well, at the very least i will have a highly trained chef in my camp, who should be able to make even bugs and worms taste good...
[11:48] <QueenVee> hello woogles
[11:48] <woogles> hello
[11:48] <woogles> any noteworthy news today?
[11:49] <QueenVee> tons
[11:49] <QueenVee> i'm in the middle of posting it all on the website: www.shift2003.com
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[11:53] <QueenVee> hey ralf
[11:53] <Ralf> morning
[11:53] <Ralf> :-)
[11:53] <QueenVee> how's the weather been where you are? did you experience those winds?
[11:53] <Ralf> like
[11:53] <Ralf> last week?
[11:54] <QueenVee> yeah
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[11:59] <QueenVee> hello bruce
[12:00] <Bruce> Hello.  Quiet here today.
[12:00] <QueenVee> yep
[12:00] <sotos> =
[12:00] <Bruce> I'm being a spectator here  while I work
[12:03] <Bruce> have to go. bye
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[12:15] <tied2> Is anyone up yet?
[12:17] <QueenVee> hello tied
[12:17] <QueenVee> it was active here earlier, quiet now
[12:18] <tied2> any big news today?
[12:19] <RNTHOMAS> Nope...
[12:19] <QueenVee> yes, actually....
[12:19] <RNTHOMAS> QV: sorry bout kinda dissapearing there... I'm at work, had a few things to go chase...
[12:19] <QueenVee> lots of weather related news....
[12:19] <tied2> do tell
[12:19] <QueenVee> also implosions....
[12:20] <tied2> where?
[12:20] <QueenVee> i'm in the middle of posting it all on the site
[12:20] <tied2> ok
[12:20] <RNTHOMAS> QV: Yeah, sotos was pretty interesting...
[12:20] <QueenVee> apartment building walls collapsed in Brooklyn and India....
[12:20] <RNTHOMAS> The big hole... I missed what it was...
[12:20] <QueenVee> huge sinkhole in Athens swallowed a car
[12:20] <tied2> geeeze
[12:21] <RNTHOMAS> yup...
[12:22] <tied2> there was a case back severial mths ago where a whole community colapsed I think that was in Grease
[12:24] <RNTHOMAS> tied2 That sounds pretty wild... Do you still have the URL for that community in Creece crashing?
[12:24] <RNTHOMAS> brb:- work issue.
[12:26] <tied2> No maybe I could find it, when I get my linux box back up
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[12:38] <QueenVee> hello Aaaaa
[12:38] <Aaaaa> hello
[12:38] <Aaaaa> checking in at lunch, any chat/
[12:38] <Aaaaa> ?
[12:39] <QueenVee> yes, earlier, but not now....
[12:39] <QueenVee> i'm in the middle of updating the website, lots of news there: www.shift2003.com
[12:40] <Aaaaa> ok, back later, bye
[12:40] <QueenVee> later
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[12:41] <woogles> anyone here ever used a program called "past life regression" from astralware?
[12:41] <QueenVee> nope
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[12:56] <johnigga> hello
[12:56] <QueenVee> hello john
[12:56] <johnigga> damn are you on all the time queen?
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[12:57] <johnigga> any news in here>
[12:57] <johnigga> ?
[12:57] <QueenVee> i work at home, so my computer is on all the time
[12:57] <johnigga> oh
[12:57] <QueenVee> i'm logged in here while doing other things.
[12:57] <johnigga> i see
[12:58] <QueenVee> lots of news on our website, i'm still updating it, there's been so much today....
[12:58] <QueenVee> www.shift2003.com
[12:58] <johnigga> so has it changed from last night to know at all cause i was there last night
[12:59] <QueenVee> yes, i posted about 20 new items
[12:59] <johnigga> ok
[13:01] <johnigga> the implosions are interesting
[13:01] <QueenVee> mmm
[13:01] <QueenVee> i've got some stories about sinkholes too...
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[13:03] <QueenVee> helly Boy
[13:03] <QueenVee> hello, i mean
[13:03] <BoY> hell-o
[13:03] <QueenVee> lots of news stories on the website today: www.shift2003.com
[13:04] <BoY> on my way
[13:04] <BoY> :)
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[13:30] <QueenVee> hello zod
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[13:40] <Valdrix> ello
[13:41] <QueenVee> hello valdrix
[13:41] <QueenVee> lots of news today, all up on the website: www.shift2003.com
[13:41] <Valdrix> ??!!
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[13:48] <QueenVee> hello Mad
[13:48] <Mad_Hatter> Hi Queen
[13:49] <QueenVee> lots of interesting news today, Mad....
[13:49] <QueenVee> it's all posted on the website: www.shift2003.com
[13:49] <Mad_Hatter> Have you adopted a new dog yet?
[13:49] <QueenVee> working on it.....
[13:49] <QueenVee> waiting to hear about a 3-year old pupppy that someone wants to give away....
[13:49] <QueenVee> 3-year-old Beagle, i meant
[13:50] <Mad_Hatter> Yea, I've been at the URL...you have been busy!  Activities are increasing
[13:50] <QueenVee> there are also two young cocker spaniels available for adoption, but i would have to travel to Toronto for pick-up...
[13:50] <QueenVee> it's getting hard to keep up....
[13:50] <Mad_Hatter> Beagles are excellent dogs...hope it works out
[13:50] <QueenVee> i'm really hoping that the Beagle comes through....
[13:50] <QueenVee> i had one when i was a kid, so i'm partial to the breed....
[13:51] <QueenVee> they're small enough for my current living situation, but would also be very useful in the aftertime.... they're great hunters....
[13:51] <Mad_Hatter> Just don't call it "Snoopy"...
[13:51] <QueenVee> oh, please
[13:51] <QueenVee> i have a great aversion to giving dogs cutesy or pretentious names
[13:51] <QueenVee> simple one-syllable names
[13:51] <QueenVee> my beagle's name was Sam
[13:52] <QueenVee> my cocker spaniel's name was Ben
[13:52] <QueenVee> i had a friend who named his two dogs "Chaucer" and "Keats"  -- gag me with a spoon...
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[13:53] <Mad_Hatter> Starting to rain again...been raining all day...we do need it.
[13:53] <QueenVee> where's that?
[13:54] <Mad_Hatter> Phoenix...actually I am in a town called Chandler..just outside Phoenix
[13:55] <QueenVee> i've always wanted to name a female dog Madge....
[13:55] <QueenVee> so it's been dry?
[13:56] <Mad_Hatter> Yep...we are still in drought alert....reservoir capacity at 26%...
[13:57] <QueenVee> oy
[13:57] <QueenVee> i didn't realize that Arizona was having that kind of problem
[13:57] <Mad_Hatter> Not good when you live in a desert
[13:58] <QueenVee> is that an unusual situation, or...?
[13:58] <Valdrix> queen? did you say was named ben? what happioned?
[13:58] <QueenVee> Valdrix: my dog Ben suffered a stroke last Friday and had to be euthenized
[13:58] <Mad_Hatter> Yes, driest it's been in many years...think it was ~ 30yrs.
[13:58] <Valdrix> oh no!
[13:59] <QueenVee> he was 16 years old, with a heart condition
[13:59] <Valdrix> thats sad tho :(
[13:59] <QueenVee> he was diagnosed with an enlarged heart about a year ago, so it was not unexpected
[13:59] <QueenVee> every day of the past year has been a gift
[13:59] <QueenVee> i was a complete basket case for a couple of days
[13:59] <Valdrix> nod.. i rememberd you saying that ben would not be around after the px.. i just assumed you ment you would get rid of him...or something
[14:00] <QueenVee> well, i knew he'd die before that....
[14:00] <johnigga> anyone in here located in indiana?
[14:00] <QueenVee> i'm in southwestern ontario canada
[14:01] <Valdrix> is it cold in sw ontario?
[14:01] <johnigga> we are probably located in the safest places, yeha there is snow here
[14:01] <johnigga> yeah**
[14:02] <Valdrix> :P
[14:02] <QueenVee> john: yeah, but you've got the government types to deal with....
[14:02] <johnigga> like who?
[14:02] <QueenVee> Valdrix: no, it's not; we've been having unseasonably warm winters for a few years now....
[14:03] <Valdrix> nod.. but on a normal year? does it get cold? heh im not the best lover of cold weather, and after px, im guessing that the climet will be about what you have there (here).
[14:03] <QueenVee> john: well, you've got a major government bunker there in Kokomo Indiana
[14:03] <johnigga> thats right grissom...
[14:04] <QueenVee> Valdrix: well, we used to get a lot of snow.... we don't get much snow now, and when we do get it, it usually melts fast
[14:05] <Valdrix> nod
[14:05] <johnigga> there is alot of snow here
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[14:07] <QueenVee> john: read this: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx229.htm
[14:07] <johnigga> k
[14:07] <QueenVee> and this: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx041.htm
[14:09] <johnigga> well, that some shit
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[14:09] <QueenVee> yep
[14:10] <johnigga> well my friend has a couple guns, so i can use one of them to defend myself
[14:11] <Mad_Hatter> Queen: I just looked a a map...Ontario is very close to the US border...just above the great lakes region
[14:11] <johnigga> whats your real name queen?
[14:12] <QueenVee> Mad: yes indeed
[14:12] <QueenVee> john: why?
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[14:13] <johnigga> i dont know i just wanted to know...
[14:13] <johnigga> u dont have to tell me
[14:15] <johnigga> my name is john, as you probably thought
[14:15] <QueenVee> :-)
[14:16] <Mad_Hatter> Canada takes in a lot of territory..esp to the North..all the way to the Queen Elizabeth Islands.. bigger then all US territories combined
[14:16] <QueenVee> she's a big country
[14:16] <QueenVee> sorry, i have to disappear for a bit. be back in about 10 minutes.
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[14:17] <Mad_Hatter> me too...off for a smoke break...damn bad habit!
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[14:37] <Inspiron> hello
[14:38] <RNTHOMAS> Howdy...
[14:39] <Inspiron> hi
[14:42] <RNTHOMAS> What's new and exciting...
[14:42] <Inspiron> nothing you ?
[14:42] <RNTHOMAS> I am at work, so my response to you may be a bit spotty...  So if I dissapear all of a sudden, I'm not trying to be rude...
[14:42] <Inspiron> lol
[14:42] <RNTHOMAS> Have you been in here before?
[14:43] <Inspiron> ya
[14:43] <Inspiron> you do anything for shelter ?
[14:43] <RNTHOMAS> Coowel... QV is off running around, and other then that it's been kinda quiet here...
[14:44] <RNTHOMAS> Well, that's a hard on, quite a few people are building Dome houses...
[14:44] <Inspiron> i see
[14:44] <RNTHOMAS> Others say simply dig a ditch and put a well secured lid overtop...
[14:44] <Inspiron> ya thats what im doing
[14:44] <RNTHOMAS> With foam and other soft things...
[14:45] <RNTHOMAS> so you don't crack you head or body during the shift...
[14:45] <Inspiron> foam ?
[14:45] <Inspiron> i see
[14:45] <RNTHOMAS> Myself, I dunno if a dome house will be able to survive the quake...  
[14:46] <RNTHOMAS> And wind...
[14:46] <RNTHOMAS> The ditch I think is better, then build a dome house after...
[14:46] <RNTHOMAS> I also dunno about the fire-storms...
[14:46] <Inspiron> the dome will survive the quakes
[14:47] <RNTHOMAS> I was considering taking a few scuba tanks in the ditch in case of bad air...
[14:47] <Inspiron> domes do that
[14:47] <Inspiron> and fire
[14:47] <Inspiron> to
[14:47] <Inspiron> and wind
[14:47] <RNTHOMAS> But you'll need a harness to secure yourself to the floor...
[14:47] <RNTHOMAS> I kinda like the ditch with a lid... It seems the simplest...
[14:48] <Inspiron> ya
[14:48] <RNTHOMAS> Maybe bury a few dozens bags of concrete for the house for after the shift...
[14:48] <RNTHOMAS> Mind you we will probably be nomadic in existance in the aftertime...
[14:49] <RNTHOMAS> I am thinking of getting a food-saver, and de-hydrator up...
[14:50] <RNTHOMAS> start de-hydrating meats / fruits and other supplies...
[14:50] <Inspiron> that wont last long
[14:50] <Inspiron> better investing in crops
[14:50] <Inspiron> greenhouses etc
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[14:50] <Inspiron> turn vegan
[14:51] <RNTHOMAS> But for the first 2 years there will not be enough light to grow anything...
[14:51] <RNTHOMAS> And it's gonna be cold... I would suspect...
[14:51] <Inspiron> ya
[14:51] <RNTHOMAS> Most of the water will be full of lead...
[14:51] * Woog[A] is now known as woogles
[14:51] <RNTHOMAS> Mushrooms and other low light items will be all there is...
[14:51] <RNTHOMAS> Hopefully one can save seeds...
[14:51] <Inspiron> thers plenty
[14:51] <Inspiron> carrots
[14:51] <Inspiron> potatoes
[14:51] <RNTHOMAS> Then there's the blight issue...
[14:51] <Inspiron> beats
[14:52] <Inspiron> onions
[14:52] <Inspiron> blight issue ?
[14:52] <RNTHOMAS> carrots, beats - those are low light?
[14:52] <RNTHOMAS> Yeah...
[14:52] <Inspiron> no light
[14:52] <Inspiron> or low light
[14:53] <Inspiron> how many people are you with RNT ?
[14:54] <RNTHOMAS> Not very many...
[14:54] <RNTHOMAS> I am still trying to figure out where I'm gonna go.
[14:54] <Inspiron> where are you ?
[14:55] <RNTHOMAS> Vancouver Island, B.C.
[14:55] <Inspiron> vancouver will be safe i think
[14:55] <woogles> According to zt it will be very nice after the shift, but not the best place during I think
[14:56] <Inspiron> do not trust the aliens
[14:56] <Inspiron> they are hostile
[14:56] <Inspiron> soon there will be a staged war
[14:56] <Inspiron> alien attack
[14:56] <Inspiron> to make the NWO
[14:56] <woogles> oh?  Well if your not going to trust them you might as well just die in the shift, because you won't know where is safe
[14:57] <Inspiron> there safe places
[14:57] <Inspiron> go with my research into safe places
[14:57] <Inspiron> so that is truth
[14:57] * woogles shrugs
[14:57] <Inspiron> im just saying
[14:57] <RNTHOMAS> Sorry...
[14:58] <RNTHOMAS> I am actually at work... Got a call...
[14:58] <woogles> as long as it makes some kind of sense goegraphically taking into account all the things that are supposed to happen
[14:58] <woogles> I mean, if the zetas were going to wage war on us, why would they give us any warning at all?
[14:58] <Inspiron> becouse
[14:58] <Inspiron> they are just tools
[14:58] <Inspiron> if they started attacking
[14:59] <Inspiron> the whole world would fight them off
[14:59] <Inspiron> most liklye winning
[14:59] <Inspiron> but if they just wait
[14:59] <Inspiron> for the shift
[14:59] <Inspiron> and gain our trust
[14:59] <Inspiron> it will be much easier for them no ?
[14:59] <obaway> hi
[14:59] <woogles> why not just wait for the shift, and not tell us the shift will happen. that way, like 99% of the people die in the shift instead of 90%
[14:59] * obaway is now known as obany
[15:00] <Inspiron> like i said
[15:00] <obany> came back about 30 minuts ago
[15:00] <Inspiron> to gain our trust
[15:00] <Inspiron> and to promote the anti-christ
[15:00] <Inspiron> the same ammount of people will survive
[15:00] <Inspiron> regardless of zetatalk
[15:00] <obany> inspirion... what are you doing here?
[15:00] <woogles> oi, any aliens having anywhere near the techonology purported to be in possesion of the zetas cold kick our ass any time, end of story.
[15:00] <obany> we are not here into demon talk ... take overs by aliens etc
[15:01] <Inspiron> it takes aliens to use the technology
[15:01] <Inspiron> either way
[15:01] <Inspiron> there plan is that
[15:01] * ChanServ sets mode: +o obany
[15:02] <woogles> promote the antichrist...right of course how silly of me.
[15:02] <Inspiron> listin
[15:02] <Inspiron> it is right in front of you
[15:02] <obany> The Zetas are not planning for a takeover nor are they promoting the Anti Christ..
[15:02] <Inspiron> they completly rewright the creation of man
[15:02] <Inspiron> taking credit for it
[15:02] <Inspiron> open youre eyes
[15:03] <obany> !addtimedban Inspirion 2300 you have been here before..... and this is not the channel for your religious babble
[15:03] <Inspiron> ok ill stop
[15:03] <obany> you better do
[15:04] <Inspiron> ok
[15:04] <obany> we ain't into this over here, not into they are here to promote the Anti Christ .. not they have rewrite the creating of man
[15:04] * obany sets mode: +b Inspirion!*@*
[15:04] * obany sets mode: +b *!*heck@*.sympatico.ca
[15:04] * Inspiron was kicked by obany (Inspiron)
[15:05] * obany sets mode: -b Inspirion!*@*
[15:06] * obany sets mode: -b *!*heck@*.sympatico.ca
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[15:09] <JFull> Is every one eating dinner?
[15:09] <RNTHOMAS> It's only about 3 PM...
[15:09] <RNTHOMAS> At least here...
[15:09] <QueenVee> yeah, dinner time here, 6pm
[15:10] <JFull> 600 pm here also
[15:10] <QueenVee> brb, gotta reboot
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[15:10] <RNTHOMAS> Hey ob, timeed ban...  Is that a real command?
[15:10] <JFull> RN: you in CA
[15:10] <RNTHOMAS> CANADA...
[15:10] <obany> yes, but i can't do it ... to bad
[15:10] <obany> doesn't work here
[15:11] <obany> but i use it in #zetatalk and in #troubled_times
[15:11] <RNTHOMAS> So Chanserv doesn't support timed ban then...
[15:11] <obany> it's a command for chanserv
[15:11] <obany> yes it does
[15:11] <JFull> This is my first try on browser
[15:11] <obany> but i don't have the well rights in this channel
[15:12] <RNTHOMAS> But it doesn't work here...  Well rights?  
[15:13] <RNTHOMAS> Just asking, cuz I op in #earthchanges, and would like timedban ...
[15:13] <RNTHOMAS> If I ever needed to...
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[15:14] <RNTHOMAS> How do you check the who's banned list..
[15:16] <obany> double click in channelwindow of mirc
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[15:38] * Topic is 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
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[15:38] <Ogmios> some role playing game
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[15:38] <QueenVee> Guest: Please change your nickname to something other than Guest, or you will be automatically disconnected
[15:38] <Guest> so is it going to happen
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[15:39] <QueenVee> hello Mad
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[15:40] <raphael> Tha t better?
[15:40] <QueenVee> hello raphael -- what brings you to this room?
[15:40] <QueenVee> raphael: please note:
[15:40] <QueenVee> Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[15:41] <raphael> a ha ...I see
[15:41] <raphael>  So i will watch and observe the seroius chat on the subject then  ....if you dont mind.....
[15:42] <QueenVee> actually, we do mind. i suggest you go to #earthchanges
[15:42] <raphael> why?
[15:42] <QueenVee> bye raphael
[15:42] <raphael>  i am curious to know what people are doing?
[15:42] <QueenVee> well, we are not here for your curiosity
[15:42] <QueenVee> sorry -- find a new hobby
[15:43] <raphael> so how can I partake in the disscussion then?
[15:43] <QueenVee> you can't, because you don't qualify -- get it?
[15:43] <QueenVee> you can discuss the subject in #earthchanges
[15:43] <raphael> why dont I qualify?
[15:43] <raphael> I am a human too....
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[15:46] <QueenVee> hello insomniac
[15:46] <JFull> thanks for the forwards from HumVee l
[15:46] <InSoMniaC420> Hey
[15:46] <QueenVee> np, jfull
[15:47] <JFull> his in law is looking for farm in NM
[15:47] <JFull> MN
[15:47] <QueenVee> yes, so i hear
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[15:49] <JFull> we had to take our doughter to hospital yesterday
[15:50] <JFull> will be at least a couple of more days
[15:50] <Kate> Hello
[15:50] <QueenVee> hello Kate -- what brings you to this room?
[15:50] <Kate> Just read your updates today - great site
[15:50] <QueenVee> thanx kate
[15:51] <obany> she had a small accident?
[15:51] <Kate> It is frustrating - whenever I mention earth changes to people - they just switch off
[15:51] <QueenVee> Kate, have you been here before?
[15:51] <JFull> no has reoccuring sedu seizures
[15:51] <QueenVee> are you the woman who is moving from Australia back to New Zealand?
[15:51] <Kate> No - today is my first visit
[15:51] <QueenVee> oh, ok
[15:51] <obany> to bad jfull
[15:52] <QueenVee> kate: so how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
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[15:52] <JFull> thks
[15:52] <QueenVee> hey islander
[15:52] <islander> hi q
[15:52] <Kate> no that isn't me
[15:52] <RNTHOMAS> Hey Islander... Gather the weather's nicer out your way!
[15:52] <Kate> People either don't look at world events - or they are steadfastly not interested in what is going on - or so it seems to me
[15:53] <islander> just like summer again, its just the ice on the road that doesn't make sense
[15:53] <islander> cold night, hot day
[15:53] <Kate> Islander - where are you?
[15:53] <islander> victoria
[15:53] <Kate> Victoria - where
[15:53] <RNTHOMAS> Well here in Port Alberni, the usual FOG Bank!
[15:53] <islander> bc canada
[15:54] <Kate> oh
[15:54] <QueenVee> kate, you've got to be totally unaware not to think that there isn't something seriously amiss
[15:54] <QueenVee>  kate: so how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[15:54] <Kate> That is what I think!
[15:54] <JFull> crazy, 74 inMN and 35 in FL
[15:54] <Kate> um - lets see - I guess about 1 year or so
[15:55] <QueenVee> Kate: so are you planning to relocate? are you in a safe location?
[15:55] <JFull> got to go --wife home--thanks all
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[15:56] <Kate> Well I am in a large city, so it is just a question of getting out I suppose
[15:57] <Kate> I am making rather slow progress - I must say
[15:57] <Kate> trying to plant and collect seeds
[15:57] <Kate> finding the right sort of building structures
[15:58] <Kate> Hello - anyone still there?
[15:59] <islander> still here
[15:59] * obany is
[15:59] <QueenVee> yep, still here
[16:00] <Kate> How about those floods in Europe!
[16:00] <QueenVee> kate: what do you mean by "the right sort of building structures"?
[16:00] <QueenVee> the weather is insane
[16:00] <islander> and alaska... spring coming early?
[16:01] <Kate> Well, I have been drawn to domes - but have been agonizing about whether a canvas cover or concrete or adobe
[16:01] <QueenVee> Kate: you don't mean for the poleshift itself, do you?
[16:01] <InSoMniaC420> All around my state.. Tempatures are breaking records by about 20 degrees
[16:01] <Kate> Town planning comes into it - for a permanent structure there are so many regulations - I thought canvas - then afterwards build something more lasting
[16:02] <Kate> for the shift
[16:02] <InSoMniaC420> 200 mph winds lol
[16:02] <InSoMniaC420> canvas?
[16:02] <QueenVee> Kate: you shouldn't be in a structure of any kind during the hour of the shift
[16:02] <Kate> oh
[16:02] <QueenVee> you should be in a shallow earth trench with a secure metal lid
[16:02] <Kate> oops
[16:02] <InSoMniaC420> Find a nice open crop field<--is what I am doing
[16:03] <islander> regulations, you can out wait-them, build later
[16:03] <QueenVee> you should also not build anything BEFORE the shift, as it is not likely to survive the shift undamaged
[16:03] <QueenVee> this is what ZT advises
[16:03] <Kate> what about a dam wall that is threatening to break
[16:03] <InSoMniaC420> lol
[16:03] <InSoMniaC420> if it is going to break under normal conditions...
[16:04] <Kate> no seriously I have this person digging in a shipping container and he noticed that a dam wall had a weakness
[16:04] <islander> white river rafting downstream if it goes
[16:05] <InSoMniaC420> it probably will lol
[16:05] <Kate> and wants to tie up quiet a bit of my finances to fix it
[16:05] <Kate> How do you fit a secure metal lid to a trench?
[16:06] <Kate> and how thick does it have to be?
[16:06] <InSoMniaC420> article on MSNBC : "What is causing all this weird weather"   hmmm lol
[16:06] <islander> depends on the span, get as thick as yow can, like corrugated siding
[16:07] <Kate> I must say this isn't something I am looking forward to
[16:07] <QueenVee> Kate: enough to withstand heavy objects falling on it
[16:07] <QueenVee> i hear ya
[16:07] <Kate> how do we know what side of earth will get the tail going through
[16:07] <QueenVee> that's on the ZT site kate
[16:07] <InSoMniaC420> What is anyone doing about the debri that will fall after pX passes?
[16:08] <QueenVee> what do you suggest we do?
[16:08] <Kate> sorry for all the questions - but where on zt site?
[16:08] <islander> keep your hard hat on until it stops
[16:08] <QueenVee> i can't recall offhand; there's a search engine on the main page; key in the word "tail", and ignore anything that comes up that isn't ZetaTalk
[16:08] <Kate> How long will one have to spend huddled inside the shallow ditch?
[16:08] * woogles is now suggesting people to take a simple hand operated car jack into their ditch with them, just in case somehow you do get buried
[16:09] <Kate> oh ok thanks
[16:09] <QueenVee> Kate: the poleshift will last one hour
[16:09] <Kate> oh - terriffic - buried alive - bloody wonderful!!!!
[16:09] <InSoMniaC420> I have no idea.. going under structures isn't safe.. underground--not even close.. Really, we are at the mercy of the debri
[16:09] <QueenVee> Kate: you should really familiarize yourself with the POLESHIFT section of zetatalk, particularly from the third paragraph down, which discusses preparation...
[16:10] <Kate> oh ok - thankyou.  What about a shipping container?
[16:11] <Kate> would that be reasonably safe - or is that just best for storage of things?
[16:11] <Ogmios> Bronski Beat - small town boy
[16:11] <obany> runaway runaway runaway
[16:11] <QueenVee> half buried shipping container would be very good
[16:11] <Ogmios> heard today metal version from that
[16:12] <Ogmios> was cool
[16:12] <QueenVee> Kate: i believe they can be rented in australia for about $150 per month...
[16:12] <woogles> he see if you can pay at the end of the month ;)
[16:12] <Kate> that is what I have planned - but to stay in - or to store - because if it is for heavy objects falling from they sky then the roof's aren't that strong
[16:13] <Kate> I will buy one second hand
[16:13] <Kate> I couldnt rent one knowing that I would never be giving it back to them
[16:14] <InSoMniaC420> lol
[16:14] <Ogmios> actually i am small town boy
[16:14] <QueenVee> well, Kate, if whatever is going to fall on you is going to crush a metal shipping container, i doubt that anything can protect you from it
[16:15] <Kate> Oh well that is reasurring
[16:15] <Kate> Maybe I can put some more things on the top - just in case
[16:15] <islander> or shore it from inside like a mine tunnel
[16:16] <QueenVee> yep, logs are good
[16:16] <Kate> that sounds difficult
[16:17] <Kate> I tell you - I have discovered a new found respect for the male of the species during all this!
[16:17] <islander> aisle made down the centre and storage each side, that way your stored goods act like padding
[16:17] <Kate> It is amazing how they work some things out - even the most unprepossessing - show remarkable skill
[16:17] <islander> just incase something comes knocking
[16:17] <obany> Ogmios: i know the verion from that bronski beat, but never hears a metal version of it
[16:18] <Kate> That is a good idea Islander - thanks
[16:18] <QueenVee> i plan to put several layers of matresses in mine
[16:18] <Kate> what have you done about ventilation?
[16:19] <QueenVee> you have to put holes in the thing
[16:19] <islander> don't get a false sense about part of the species, this seriousness could just be a break from playtime
[16:19] <Kate> the modification crew charge quite a bit to put extra doors in them.
[16:20] <Kate> yeah - they can play rough
[16:22] <islander> sounds like you need to find the type of people that you would see on Junkyard Wars to solve the retrofit issues
[16:23] <QueenVee> now, those are the guys you want to have with you during the aftertime
[16:23] <islander> for ventilation set smething up like you see on ships, pipe going up and bending over to keep the rain out
[16:23] <islander> something
[16:23] <QueenVee> excellent suggestion islander
[16:24] <Ogmios> hmmmm 2 airplane crashes
[16:24] <islander> and put something on it to control the airflow
[16:24] <Kate> I am getting an insulated container - which is  more difficult to modify - cant you just leave the doors open a bit
[16:25] <islander> wiyth high winds you don't want to over pressurize the container
[16:25] <Kate> What do you mean?
[16:25] <islander> and winds will tear doors off, review some hurricane videos to see the results
[16:26] <Kate> groan
[16:26] <islander> control the coming and leaving, eg fumes or hot air = closed
[16:26] <islander> or dust or?
[16:27] <Kate> can you open and close a container from the inside?
[16:27] <islander> you need to modify it and rmove anything on the outside that could be weged locked
[16:27] <islander> wedged
[16:28] <islander> a round knob is best, can break off and leaves inside operating
[16:28] <islander> and make sure that locking is by multiple strike points in case one breaks
[16:28] <Kate> I think I will leave the container for storage and just go into a shallow groove with metal roof
[16:29] <islander> half buried armoured vehicles?
[16:29] <Kate> the thought of being trapped in one of those things doesn't sit well with my claustraphobia
[16:29] <QueenVee> Kate: another option is a shallow trench with a metal or concrete culver....
[16:30] <QueenVee> but that has a claustrophobic element as well
[16:30] <islander> you will overcome that fear when the time comes
[16:30] <Kate> at least you could get out
[16:30] <QueenVee> the idea behind the earth trench is that you can at least dig yourself out
[16:30] <Kate> (just to be struck down by a hurtling rock)
[16:30] <islander> don't pop your head out too soon
[16:31] <islander> :)
[16:31] <Kate> If the earth changes don't get you then panic will!!
[16:31] <woogles> yeah you should all take stress managment, having a heart attack in your pit would suck.
[16:31] <Kate> haha
[16:32] <QueenVee> on the subject of how to secure the lid -- how about a couple of concrete reinforced short posts in the floor of your trench, which can be tied by strong rope to hooks on the inside of your trench lid?
[16:32] <Kate> Yeah - after all the preparation - sitting in your little hidy hole and you feel your heart, or tooth, or side! - just my luck
[16:32] <QueenVee> that way you can't be locked in from the outside
[16:33] <woogles> hmm, how to get air in your ditch? since the space i'm think of only holds about 10 minutes worth and is conceniently coffin sized ;)
[16:33] <Kate> Yes Queen Vee - that sounds excellent.  With good foundations and a lid - dug in - sounds good
[16:33] <islander> needs to be held firmly down, you dont want to beocome the tail of a kite
[16:33] <Kate> hang on - air
[16:33] <Kate> open the door
[16:33] <QueenVee> woogles: i would use islander's suggestion, metal pipes bent over
[16:34] <RNTHOMAS> Myself, I was thinking vents and fans... But a backup would be scuba tanks... 2 provide for 30 but probably more like 2-3 hours of air...
[16:34] <islander> nascar has the answer , withstands 200 mph
[16:34] <woogles> you don't want to be opening the door with those winds, the pipe should work, or 2 or 3... (just in case) as long as they are secure
[16:34] <QueenVee> RN: hey, there's an idea....
[16:35] <RNTHOMAS> If you get the firestorm, you have an air supply...
[16:35] <woogles> heh o2 is quite explosive though :|
[16:35] <islander> 2 hours breathing air
[16:35] <Kate> A firestorm is only in volcanic areas - right?
[16:35] <QueenVee> do oxygen tanks pose any danger, explosion wise?
[16:35] <RNTHOMAS> Each tank works for about 30-40 minutes at the surface...
[16:35] <QueenVee> Kate: right
[16:35] <QueenVee> like Australia
[16:35] <RNTHOMAS> But that's if you breath it out as a single breath...
[16:35] <islander> when they leak they help everthing else to burn
[16:36] <Kate> oxygen tanks would  - but most scuba things are air - so a mix of o2 with other things
[16:36] <woogles> well, if you breathe all yoga like you could probably triple or even quadruple that time period islander, especially since you wont be physically active
[16:36] <RNTHOMAS> But in the bunker, you can re-breath the air about 2-3 times before it goes stale...
[16:36] <RNTHOMAS> I was gonna have some breathing thru regulators...
[16:37] <woogles> breath in 8 seconds, hold 8 seconds, breath out 8 seconds, hold 8 seconds, repeat.
[16:37] <Kate> yoga breathing at such a time - what are you a master meditator?
[16:37] <RNTHOMAS> When they exhale, then other would be able to re-breath that...
[16:37] <Kate> how about those short shallow breaths you do - like at the dentist
[16:37] <RNTHOMAS> I already have the scuba tanks...
[16:38] <RNTHOMAS> But vents and fans would work OK while the shift happens...
[16:38] <Kate> don't forget pure oxygen can be toxic
[16:38] <RNTHOMAS> Also have a small shovel available in case one has to dig their way out...
[16:38] <QueenVee> big shovel
[16:39] <islander> breathing to a count, woogles: prenatal classes might help there, learn breathing patterns to control the panic
[16:39] <RNTHOMAS> Big shovel is too hard to maneuver in cramped areas...
[16:39] <RNTHOMAS> An army shovel for digging trenches seems better to me...
[16:40] <RNTHOMAS> I gotta run... Time for dinner... TTFN....
[16:40] <islander> by rn
[16:41] <obany> :/ http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/573306
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[16:41] <woogles> hmm, i never thought of those islander, i've been doing meditation exercises for a while, but i think you have a good idea.
[16:42] <Kate> Really Queen Vee - your updates are second to none
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[16:42] <QueenVee> Kate: well, they're getting really hard to keep up with
[16:43] <QueenVee> the quickening and all....
[16:43] <islander> pretty soon we'll need 4 queens to keep up
[16:43] <QueenVee> i find the other sites get cluttered with items that are often only marginally related, and often not related at all....
[16:44] <QueenVee> my intention was to create a record of the most directly related and obvious events
[16:44] <QueenVee> lol -- i've always wanted a staff of queens
[16:44] <islander> i was thinking of a full deck
[16:44] <QueenVee> hehe
[16:44] <islander> :)
[16:44] <QueenVee> i could use a full deck....
[16:45] <QueenVee> i only just discovered the wonders of using Google News....
[16:45] <QueenVee> you put a keyword in, and it gives you all of the very latest news stories on that subject
[16:46] <islander> thats handy
[16:46] <QueenVee> came up with some really interesting stuff there when i put in the keyword "sinkhole"
[16:46] <Kate> I guess I have been reluctant to think that the authorities would conceal something like this - but they don't seem to act in anyone's interest
[16:47] <QueenVee> nope, they don't....
[16:47] <obany> queenvee; it's good yes ..
[16:47] <Ogmios> http://www.fmi.fi/en/index.html
[16:47] <obany> i use news.google.com too
[16:47] <Ogmios> warm
[16:47] <Ogmios> atleast here
[16:47] <QueenVee> though ZT says that the people in govt are not all bad, that they are good ones who want information to get out
[16:47] <islander>  I use Copernic to search
[16:47] <islander> they have a free download
[16:47] <obany> and also the moreover.com page for the news ..
[16:48] <obany> copernic: news.google.com and moreover.com are better for news
[16:48] <islander> http://www.copernic.com/index.html
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[16:49] <Kate> So I guess that no one here lives in California?
[16:49] <QueenVee> obany: have you seen what Mark Hazelwood has been posting on his listserve about Nancy?
[16:49] <QueenVee> hello HBO
[16:49] <HBO2> hiy QV
[16:49] <HBO2> what's new?
[16:49] <QueenVee> HBO: tons of stuff -- i refer you to the website: www.shift2003.com
[16:50] <Kate> I thought he was always quiet supportative of Nancy - but she was rather rude about him - or so I remember
[16:50] <islander> kate: they do visit, but not here now
[16:50] <obany> queenvee; i kinda know what he says, that's CIA and missinformation etc
[16:51] <QueenVee> Kate: well, she has every reason to be rude about him -- he has stolen all her material; and is now calling her a CIA agent spreading misinformation
[16:51] <QueenVee> loony
[16:51] <Kate> wow
[16:51] <Kate> how come he has changed his tune?
[16:51] <QueenVee> he lifted nancy's stuff word for word
[16:51] <obany> he is well into that James guy or so ...
[16:52] <Kate> He certainly did that - but he didn't pretent otherwise from what I can remember
[16:52] <QueenVee> obany: yeah, but those guys really confuse me... Jim McCanney i thought said the May2003 date was bullshit, but now Mark is saying that Jim is saying that May is possible....
[16:52] <obany> i heard him once, sayin the same things as on troubled times, zetatalk and not a mention of the source
[16:52] <QueenVee> Kate: but he didn't have permission
[16:53] <Kate> I understood his point of view that as she was channelling the zeta's it may not get wide acceptance
[16:53] <QueenVee> he approached nancy with an offer to do a book together using her material, and split the profits; she declined because she did not want to be seen as profiting from it... he did the book anyway without her permssion
[16:53] <obany> QueenVee: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/mccanny.htm
[16:54] <Kate> well I have to admit that wasn't good
[16:54] <QueenVee> really weird, obany
[16:54] <QueenVee> well, give me nancy and ZT for consistency any time
[16:54] <islander> have to go to work for a while, cu later
[16:54] <QueenVee> these guys jump around and change their tunes and theories whenever it's convenient for them....
[16:54] <QueenVee> bye islander
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[16:55] <QueenVee> nancy has remained absolutely consistent and unwavering for the past 5 years
[16:55] <QueenVee> it says something
[16:55] <Kate> certainly - but then again you probably have an open mind - I was thinking about the millions of dunderheads who would have totally spun ouut of talk with alaliens
[16:55] <obany> and yes Hazlewood was on the troubled times mailinglist some time ago posting about making money ..
[16:55] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/index/hazelwod.htm
[16:56] <QueenVee> Kate: i don't buy that Mark had some kind of altruistic motive for getting through to such dunderheads, one that justified him stealing someone else's work and profiting from it
[16:56] <QueenVee> he saw an opportunity to make some money, and he's making a tidy profit
[16:56] <woogles> IF mark was so concerned about people, he would be giving that movie and those  books away, not selling them
[16:57] <Kate> Oh - I guess I fell for the altruistic motives
[16:57] <QueenVee> that his book may actually sway some people is only a side effect
[16:57] <walt> Money, power and ego
[16:57] <walt> always the driving forces
[16:57] <QueenVee> i bet that even George Bush has inadvertently done some good in the world....
[16:57] <obany> walt http://www.zetatalk.com/index/hazelwod.htm also what the Zetas are saying about him
[16:57] <Kate> ha ha
[16:58] <walt> does ZT have a page about what the Z are saying about me????  : )
[16:58] <QueenVee> Hazelwood certain seems to be very gullible -- he's always posting the most outlandish "inside information" from highly questionable sources, on his listserve....
[16:59] <walt> if they do I cant find it
[16:59] <QueenVee> i'm sure none of us would want to know what the zetas think about us and our tiny little mental capacities
[16:59] <Kate> When I mention this to other 'spiritual' people - they kind of look down their 'spiritual' noses saying that I was dwelling in fear.
[16:59] <QueenVee> yeah, i hear ya on that one, Kate
[17:00] <obany> and why would they say something about you
[17:00] <QueenVee> there's a slew of sites out there that tell people a poleshift is coming, but that if you are one of God's "chosen", or if you work at achieving the right spiritual "vibration", you can escape it....
[17:00] <obany> QueenVee: read this yet http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/573306
[17:00] <Kate> They say - don't feed the negativity - implying that if you were really spiritual  - you wouldn't be worried about this
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[17:00] <obany> http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/573306
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[17:01] <QueenVee> hello tenshu
[17:01] <tenshu> ahh i have a question but i need to go relieve myself lol sry.
[17:01] <tenshu> hey qv :)
[17:01] <tenshu> brb
[17:01] <QueenVee> wb Mad
[17:01] <QueenVee> tenshu: too much information
[17:01] <Mad_Hatter> Hi Queen
[17:02] <walt> TMI TEN
[17:02] <QueenVee> obany: yeah, i saw that..... i had an earlier report about Malawi.....
[17:02] <obany> floods there
[17:02] <Kate> brb
[17:05] <tenshu> sorry queen
[17:05] <tenshu> hehe
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[17:05] <tenshu> brb i need to grab somethin for my question
[17:05] <QueenVee> hello Peter -- what brings you to this room?
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[17:06] <QueenVee> ok....
[17:07] <tenshu> alright
[17:07] <tenshu> i'm tryin to find planet x basically on my own.. and i wanna ask a few things before i do start searching for it
[17:07] <tenshu> it's possible to view it with an amateur telescope right now right?
[17:07] <QueenVee> i don't think so tenshu -- better ask obany that
[17:08] <QueenVee> not my specialty area at all
[17:08] <tenshu> alright :)
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[17:08] <QueenVee> hey tex
[17:08] <from_Texas> hey QV
[17:08] <QueenVee> can you answer tenshu's question?
[17:09] <from_Texas> obany would be best
[17:09] <tenshu> hehe
[17:09] <obany> tenshu: check http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword032.htm
[17:09] <from_Texas> but i think u reall need ccd camera to capture at this time
[17:09] <QueenVee> oh, there he is -- Mr. ZetaLink
[17:10] <woogles> I have access to a professional observatory,  I could in theory look while I'm "cleaning" the place up
[17:10] <tenshu> i can't really capture any images right now.. i'm not planning on that right now.
[17:11] <woogles> but if i didn't find it, no one in here would believe me. and if i did, no one out of here would believe me, so what would it accomplish?
[17:11] <obany> and tenshu http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p155.htm
[17:13] <tenshu> i been looking at the images on zetatalk and i been having a hard time actually seeing the planet where they claim it to be
[17:13] <QueenVee> brb, gotta do the dishes
[17:13] <tenshu> i see a lil blurr in the circled areas.. but i mean.. i can't doubt or accept somethin i don't understand that well
[17:13] * obany going to bed now ehehhee
[17:13] <obany> 2:13am :P
[17:14] <from_Texas> goodnight obany
[17:14] <tenshu> heh ok.. night.
[17:14] <obany> tenshu: did you read the latest answer in the log ?
[17:14] <tenshu> i can check that out right now
[17:15] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/index/cjan0403.htm it's about the 7 weeks before the pole shift visibility
[17:15] <obany> anyway going now
[17:15] <obany> bye
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[17:16] <tenshu> yeah i knew about that.. i just wanted to post some information about my telescope and find out if its possible to see it with this thing or not
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[17:18] <walt> WOOGLE if you saw it you can get it registered in your name Planet WOOGLE
[17:19] <walt> Im sure the the people in Sci.astro can tell you where to register it
[17:19] <HBO2> lol
[17:20] <woogles> hah
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[17:20] <woogles> nah I couldn't do that, since i would be looking at nancy's coordinates
[17:24] <walt> first one to get a sighting wins
[17:26] <HBO2> walt, it's a moving target tho
[17:28] <HBO2> the next 60-90 days should produce pix of such increasing size and magnitude that even the sci.astro numbnuts will have to back down
[17:31] <walt> or not
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[17:39] <HBO2> does anyone here subscribe to Michael Scallion's newsletters?
[17:40] <from_Texas> HBO2: i don't
[17:41] <HBO2> he predicted major R9+ quake along the New Madrid fault during early spring of 2003, and I was wondering if he has reiterated this recently
[17:41] <from_Texas> that would be interesting to know
[17:41] <HBO2> I heard this on Art Bell a few months ago
[17:42] <HBO2> but, I don't believe in paying out $$ for info that should be given freely, as Nancy does
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[17:43] <HBO2> call me chintzy
[17:49] <HBO2> from_Texas: your'e in South TX, right, not near the coast?
[17:49] <from_Texas> west texas.. not near the coast
[17:49] <HBO2> ok, have you heard anything about that sinkhole in Houston?
[17:50] <from_Texas> i read a story on it today
[17:50] <HBO2> QV was really busy today...lots of implosion stories I haven't heard about
[17:51] <from_Texas> http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/10703_local_sinkhole.html
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[17:51] <HBO2> hiya G
[17:51] <samsara2003> Greetings
[17:51] <HBO2> and salutations :))
[17:52] <samsara2003> Major reorganziation of my website: Take a look at the test site and tell me how you like it:
[17:52] <samsara2003> http://home.earthlink.net/~samsara2003/New/new-main.htm
[17:52] <HBO2> brb
[17:53] <from_Texas> samsara2003:looking good there
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[17:54] <slycli> Hello all.
[17:54] <Ogmios> hi samsara
[17:55] <HBO2> samsara2003, saved it to favorites to sutdy in depth late, but I like the presentation
[17:55] <samsara2003> Thought I'd break it up a little
[17:55] <samsara2003> The nice thing is that Babelfish translation can now handle each and every section
[17:56] <HBO2> samsara2003, anything new with bringing your gf out of Asia?
[17:56] <samsara2003> It does 5-6 langues
[17:57] <HBO2> Hi slycli
[17:57] <samsara2003> HBO: She may be coming back early, circa March or so, but there are no gurantees.  
[17:58] <HBO2> samsara2003, I will add her to my prayers
[17:58] <samsara2003> Thank you HBO.  Every little bit helps
[17:58] <HBO2> amen to that
[17:59] <samsara2003> I have grown to have an acceptance of this situation.  Whatever God's plan is will be.
[18:00] <samsara2003> I am looking forward to the time when I'll be able to inform others of this.  Right now, no one wants to listen.
[18:00] <HBO2> as QV told me, plans for survivl are not the only preparations being made
[18:03] <HBO2> the Zetas said that as the PS comes closer, people will be too busy with other concerns (global warfare, economy, starvation, earth changes) to pay any attention to the approaching cataclysm
[18:04] <HBO2> becomes more clear every day, except here in the good ole' USA, where everything is just rosy!
[18:05] <samsara2003> Yes.  Very warm today..it was in the mid 50's here in wisconsin.
[18:05] <HBO2> God bless America and all of the Rupublicans
[18:05] <HBO2> 60 deg in TN
[18:05] <samsara2003> HUGE chemtrials all over the sky in my parts today.  Gigantic X's all over the place.
[18:05] <samsara2003> My eyes stung a little this afternoon.
[18:06] <HBO2> one would think the testing stage of chemtrails should be over
[18:06] <samsara2003> It just hit on me today, that part of the reason the govt may be spraying is to warn those of the approaching planet...thus, the X patterns...
[18:06] <samsara2003> Sort of a covert way of letting many know....
[18:06] <woogles> That sounds a bit obscure and extreme samsara2003
[18:06] <samsara2003> Without announcing it...
[18:06] <samsara2003> Just a thought...
[18:06] <HBO2> a little esoteric for the masses
[18:06] <woogles> the only people who would draw that conclussion are the people who know about x already
[18:07] <samsara2003> Not really...it gives those who do know about the conspiracy further visual confirmation
[18:07] <QueenVee> hello samsara
[18:07] <samsara2003> Just a thought...
[18:07] <HBO2> QueenVee, that was a lot of dishes:))
[18:07] <samsara2003> Greetings Queen
[18:07] <QueenVee> hehe
[18:08] <QueenVee> sorry, one thing led to another....
[18:08] <HBO2> just like a bath, huh, once a week?
[18:08] <HBO2> lol
[18:08] <QueenVee> yeah, used to be that way; but not since i've been staying with my mother....
[18:08] <QueenVee> she does them three times a day
[18:09] <HBO2> QueenVee, btw, you were very busy today with articles...I checked early this am, but now the implosion articles are overwhelming
[18:09] <QueenVee> yes, they are, aren't they?
[18:09] <HBO2> wowser
[18:10] <QueenVee> it all increases exponentially, each day
[18:10] <woogles> keeping the news up to date on your site may become a full time job ;)
[18:10] <samsara2003> Yes Queen...nice news links
[18:10] <samsara2003> How about those implosions!
[18:10] <QueenVee> when you look at it all together like that all in one place....
[18:10] <samsara2003> Did you see the side of that building?
[18:10] <QueenVee> it's quite overwhelming
[18:10] <Mad_Hatter> You'll need an assistant(s) to help log them all soon!
[18:11] <QueenVee> of course, they're coming up with "explanations" for the events.....
[18:11] <QueenVee> but they're not very convincing
[18:11] <HBO2> did you send them to Fox News, "fair and impartial"?
[18:11] <samsara2003> The latest was shoddy construction...the one that collapsed in New York...
[18:12] <QueenVee> the one in california was the result of a water pipe breaking -- not such an unusual event, since when does something like that cause an entire street to collapse?
[18:12] <HBO2> madiosa construction co, no doubt
[18:12] <HBO2> = mafiosa
[18:12] <woogles> uh, if planet x is exhibiting the effects on earth, from that distance, i have to say that the people who wonder about the other planets being effect are right.  
[18:12] <QueenVee> samsara: what makes you so sure it was shoddy construction?
[18:13] <samsara2003> I'm not sure it was: I was just refering to the excuse they used
[18:13] <QueenVee> oh, i see
[18:13] <QueenVee> well, we shall see if we see more such reports....
[18:13] <woogles> maybe that giant ever swirling cloud on jupiter was caused by x at one point.
[18:14] <Mad_Hatter> Understand the earth crust is about 30km deep or about 18 miles at its thickest... the "skin" is not really that thick campared to total radius (magma)
[18:15] <HBO2> somehow I doubt that changes on other planets are going to receive a lot of media attention
[18:15] <slycli> QueenVee, I emailed a starmap indicating the aproximate location of PX to a friend of mine in NM, where there is no light polution.
[18:15] <QueenVee> slycli: cool
[18:16] <slycli> he called me this afternoon discribing a bright star putting on quite a show, with changing colors close to the horizon.
[18:17] <slycli> Could this be PX?
[18:17] <Mad_Hatter> more like Venus
[18:17] <woogles> was he naked eye or telescope?
[18:17] <QueenVee> no, not PX
[18:17] <slycli> Naked.
[18:18] <woogles> prob a satelite, plane, or other "normal" planet
[18:18] <slycli> Oh, is Venus in that direction?
[18:18] <slycli> I thought I indicated clearly in relation to Orion.
[18:19] <woogles> isn't x supposedly a day time object these days?
[18:20] <slycli> Any estimates on when a night time viewing might be possible?
[18:20] <QueenVee> slycli: with naked eye, or with a scope?
[18:20] <slycli> Naked.
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[18:20] <QueenVee> Slycli: where on earth did you get that idea?
[18:20] <HBO2> QueenVee, et al, gotta go for now....all take care
[18:21] <QueenVee> it was be visible in the sky in the daytime with the naked eye until 7 weeks prior to the shift
[18:21] <QueenVee> hi WC
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[18:21] <West_coast> hi QV
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[18:22] <West_coast> another nice day in the Pacific Northwest.. record temps again for Jan
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[18:23] <Aaaaa> cold nites tho
[18:23] <West_coast> mornings, too
[18:23] <QueenVee> yeah, i got to post the stuff i've collected on unseasonably warm temperatures.... and volcano activity.... but i'm all tired out from all the other stuff there was to post today
[18:23] <West_coast> you were busy
[18:24] <West_coast> collapsing buildings, sink holes...hmmmm
[18:25] <QueenVee> ha, check this out: Miami's extensive canal system is being overhauled to prevent flooding in the future. With a $50 million grant from FEMA, installation has begun on massive pumps that move 4,500 gallons of water per second at canal floodgates.
[18:26] <QueenVee> i don't think that's going to help them in may....
[18:26] <West_coast> I think they need bigger pumps
[18:26] <Aaaaa> they will never get to spend it
[18:27] <QueenVee> wow, in a matter of about 48 hours, weather in Alberta went from 15 degrees celcius (spring-like weather), to minus 25 degrees celcius....
[18:27] <QueenVee> bizarre
[18:28] <West_coast> what's that in degrees, F
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[18:28] <QueenVee> hold on
[18:29] <Aaaaa> 15c is 60f
[18:29] <Aaaaa> -25c is-2f
[18:29] <West_coast> thanks
[18:30] <walt> -25 is -13
[18:30] <Aaaaa> big change
[18:30] <QueenVee> 15c is 60F, and -25c is -13F
[18:30] <West_coast> thanks
[18:31] <Aaaaa> oops on the minus!
[18:33] <West_coast> Aaaaa: you are in Hawaii?
[18:33] <Aaaaa>  I wish!
[18:34] <West_coast> Aaaaa: where are you?
[18:34] <Aaaaa> Oregon, Columbia River
[18:34] <Aaaaa> near Portland
[18:35] <QueenVee> great town, Portland
[18:35] <West_coast> Have a sister in Bend
[18:35] <Aaaaa> in the summer!
[18:35] <Aaaaa> wet winters
[18:35] <Aaaaa> normally
[18:35] <Mad_Hatter> Rains to much..
[18:35] <Aaaaa> Bend has good skiing
[18:36] <QueenVee> people keep emailing me, trying to convince me that the poleshift isn't going to happen -- why do they have such a need to convince me...?
[18:36] <West_coast> they are scared, I think
[18:36] <Aaaaa> you must be deluded
[18:36] <West_coast> trying to convince themselves, maybe
[18:36] <Mad_Hatter> cause they are really not convinced it isn't gonna happen...
[18:37] <QueenVee> i don't have a need to convince the Raelians that their leader is a nutbar, and that their clones don't exist -- even though that's what i believe....
[18:38] <Aaaaa> you could try that to fill your spare time:)
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[18:38] <West_coast> QV:It is a good question, though
[18:38] <Mad_Hatter> I like his white robe....
[18:39] <QueenVee> hi insomniac
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[18:39] <West_coast> QV: I mean, why they e-mail you
[18:39] <[AC-in-PA]> Hi psd
[18:39] <QueenVee> but, then, i've never understood why people have a need to change other people's beliefs.... if they're not harming anyone....
[18:40] <QueenVee> hi AC
[18:40] <QueenVee> oh, well, stupid ponderings on my part
[18:40] <QueenVee> human nature, i guess
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[18:41] <QueenVee> hi scooby
[18:42] <West_coast> what does scooby..do (at work)?
[18:43] <InSoMniaC420> lol scooby..do
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[18:43] <englishrelay1eu> test
[18:43] <InSoMniaC420> yeah..
[18:44] <englishrelay1eu&