Session Start: Thu Jan 09 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <nibi> the petro corps keep them under wraps
[00:00] <ZeroPointAlchemy> indeed
[00:00] <hysterix> exactlly a recharchable battery made of water, what more do you need?? o yes the sun to charge it!!!
[00:00] <walt> ever notice how technology really took off after we learned to take care of our selves properly
[00:00] <walt> and we had the time
[00:02] <scooby-atwork> OK, I gotta go home now..
[00:02] <scooby-atwork> see y'all laters
[00:02] <hysterix> see ya later scoob
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[00:03] <Tizza> greetings all
[00:03] <humvee> hi tiz
[00:03] <Tizza> hey hum
[00:04] <humvee> scooby who is the op
[00:04] <scooby-atwork> me when i get home
[00:04] <humvee> ok
[00:04] <nibi> i'm wondering if when the earth stops spinning if the diminished magnetic fields usually generated by the spinning iron core will allow solar radiation to start cooking the surface?...
[00:04] <scooby-atwork> see ya in a bit
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[00:05] <humvee> nibi - the generator will still b running as usual
[00:05] <nibi> like the plot in that movie coming out..."the core"
[00:05] <Tizza> plus possibly the trail and moons would bloke out some sun?
[00:05] <humvee> cool plot
[00:06] <nibi> at least everybody will know what a pole shift is after the core comes out
[00:07] <humvee> the mag fields r kept up by the fusion in the plutonium core
[00:07] <Tizza> i will be in darkness but not able to c X so assuming the trail will be on the other side of planet?
[00:08] <humvee> if they stop rotating or even flip upside down it stil gewns fields like any other magnet
[00:08] <walt> TIED
[00:08] <humvee> tied up?
[00:08] <Tizza> tied down? :0
[00:09] <humvee> Tiz if ur on the atlantic side u will see even if in dark
[00:09] <Tizza> hope so....wouldnt want to go thru it all and not lay eyes on the bugger!
[00:10] <humvee> we will c 4 7 weeks prior 2 shift in any case till rotation stops
[00:10] <Tizza> not on atlantic tho...between indian and pacific :)
[00:10] <nibi> if one does survive, there will always be a second chance to see nibiru...it passes by twice
[00:11] <Tizza> but nto with much detail till the last coupla weeks
[00:11] <humvee> oh what country is in the ocean there
[00:11] <nibi> inbound and out
[00:11] <Tizza> nibi : the second passing is further away i believe
[00:11] <Tizza> we like to call it australia :)
[00:11] <humvee> I think this will b the most visual event
[00:12] <humvee> 2nd passing we will b in volcanis gloom so poor viewing if any at all
[00:12] <Aaaaa> 2nd pass other side of sun while our skys are clouded over
[00:13] <Tizza> i get a kick out of watching nature at her best but this is should be something else :)
[00:13] <nibi> that's right....the skies will probably be filled with ash and debris
[00:13] <Tizza> plus a much lower atmosphere
[00:14] <nibi> we'll be looking for scraps of wood to burn to keep from freezing....2nd pass won't be high on the list
[00:14] <Aaaaa> scraps of DRY wood
[00:15] <Tizza> if that is,you even remember whot date it is
[00:15] <nibi> lol
[00:15] <hysterix> Who else has read on zetatalk that also the oxygen could be ripped out of the atmosphere for a little bit? How in the world can you defend against that?? O yes I scuba dive, so I will need also a full tank and reg. as well.
[00:16] <Tizza> this is why the atmosphere is lower
[00:16] <Tizza> it shrinks to fill the whole
[00:16] <Aaaaa> oxy burned off, some areas
[00:17] <Aaaaa> near volcanos, mostly, only temp
[00:17] <nibi> so the people who go wayyy up in the mountains to escape the flooding....may not have any air
[00:17] <Tizza> true....but luck of the draw
[00:17] <Tizza> the sky will appear to"burn in falling sheets
[00:18] <walt> only 2 of us in the room will survive
[00:18] <walt> who is the other one : )
[00:18] <Tizza> me!
[00:18] <Tizza> :):)
[00:18] <Aaaaa> it would be easier to be dead and watch from a distance
[00:19] <Tizza> with correct knowledge and prep most of us should make it i think
[00:19] <nibi> i just want to live long enough to say, "farrrr out, man"
[00:19] <Tizza> im with ya
[00:19] <Aaaaa> :)
[00:20] <Tizza> to prove beyond doubt all the questions you've always wanted answered....
[00:20] <hysterix> I want to be the first person to have a smoke after the PS....No not ciggarett's!
[00:20] <Tizza> sounds a bit much dont it
[00:20] <hysterix> O yes, if only I can make it that far...
[00:21] <humvee> hysterix - bring ur seed!
[00:21] <Tizza> ah whot the hell....sit back and enjoy the show.....last one!!
[00:21] <nibi> i think psychedelic mushroom tea will be a popular item
[00:21] <nibi> after the ps
[00:21] <Tizza> dunno if ill need it?!
[00:21] <hysterix> diffently humvee, for sure, and yes, mushrooms grow well in damp dark locations, bring your shrooms aswell!
[00:21] <humvee> good trading items
[00:21] <Tizza> might get up to that level on my own account :)
[00:22] <humvee> so will soap 4 that matter
[00:22] <Tizza> matches and seeds
[00:22] <humvee> i bet ppl would kill 4 a cigerette
[00:22] <Tizza> no doubt will
[00:23] <tenshu> night everyone
[00:23] <humvee> nite ten
[00:23] * tenshu is now known as tenshu`Zz
[00:23] <hysterix> zetatalk says salt will become the best item to bartor with
[00:23] <Tizza> so i wanna know when steveh is gunna front some more pics?
[00:23] <humvee> soap or dope?
[00:24] <Tizza> and more than just 3?!?!
[00:24] <hysterix> DOPE!
[00:24] <hysterix> no question
[00:24] <humvee> both will b leagle
[00:24] <hysterix> I'll be dirty yet happy, much mother
[00:24] <nibi> unfortunately anything will be legal
[00:24] <humvee> or fortunately
[00:25] <hysterix> much better rather...haha
[00:25] <Tizza> i am lucky to live in such a low density country...mush less of the gangs problem
[00:25] <humvee> tizza what is ur loc
[00:26] <nibi> where do you live, tizza?
[00:26] <Tizza> said b4 :) Australia
[00:26] <nibi> uhhhh....errr...
[00:26] <humvee> oh missed it afk
[00:26] <Aaaaa> western, I hope
[00:26] <Tizza> nice one :(
[00:26] <hysterix> Australia huh?? so you planning on moving east or out of the country?
[00:27] <Aaaaa> or Eastern?
[00:27] <Aaaaa> sorry
[00:27] <Tizza> leave my country?? gota be jokin mate...not leavin here for quids
[00:27] <Tizza> Z's say well get hammered but fair pretty well
[00:28] <hysterix> well mate, you better get moving east if you aint already, most of your country is going under, down under, under water
[00:28] <humvee> eaetern going up western 2/3 going down is that rite?
[00:28] <hysterix> yes thats correct
[00:28] <Tizza> im inclined to agree, we sit in the middle of our plate...no fault lines of any conciderable worry
[00:28] <Tizza> yes
[00:28] <Tizza> mate we love it down under!! :)
[00:29] <humvee> u read the zt safe loc on aus?
[00:29] <hysterix> I have always wanted to go to australia, seems like such a nice place
[00:29] <Tizza> na im organised....i come from the outback anyway so i already know a lot of it
[00:29] <humvee> tiz u read zt on aus rite?
[00:29] <nibi> just keep an inflatable rift handy
[00:30] <Tizza> just like goin home to me....kinda hangin out ina funny way
[00:30] <nibi> raft
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[00:30] <Tizza> hum : yes
[00:30] <humvee> ok - great
[00:30] <Tizza> trying to gt more detail out of them tho...they're a little vague
[00:30] <hysterix> Hey everybody has seen the zeta maps after the shift right? Well isn't thier a new contanent coming up?
[00:30] <Tizza> antarctica isnt it?
[00:31] <nibi> probably will be alot of new land
[00:31] <Tizza> it will be next to us....dunno if i wanna build a boat.......
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[00:31] <Tizza> they said man will find more ancient city ruins on it
[00:31] <humvee> will b on new equator i would like to go n c
[00:32] <Tizza> tempting yes.....fresh...clean...warm...fertile...just gets better ay
[00:32] <humvee> just wait till defrosts then move in
[00:32] <Tizza> shouldnt take long
[00:32] <humvee> 2 yrs i guess
[00:33] <Aaaaa> there is some secret archeology going on in antartic now
[00:33] <humvee> go early n save on ac
[00:33] <Tizza> but in order to do so i would have to go to the far east coast currently which is the highest population density in the country....bit risky
[00:33] <Tizza> that area im keeping well away from post-shift
[00:34] <nibi> i have a feeling everything is going to get wiped out...civilization will start all over again....it'll be like the medieval days...with "undiscovered continents" and sailing ships
[00:34] <humvee> hav u tried asking a more difinitive question here when nancy is on chatroom
[00:34] <hysterix> I would imagine that all the oriental country's are going to hell, they are all coastal, most population as tizza said, I would imagine they are going to do the worst
[00:35] <humvee> saturdays 4 2 hours a half hour apart
[00:35] <nibi> the few that survive will be occupied with just trying to stay alive
[00:35] <nibi> no technology will survive....it'll all have to be rediscovered
[00:35] <Tizza> i have partisipated for some time now in those chats
[00:36] <humvee> I think if u frased the question u could get a bit more clarity
[00:36] <Ralf> someone do me a favor
[00:36] <Tizza> all those ppl on east coast will head into the "blue mountains" i dont know if that many will get wipped initially
[00:36] <Ralf> please
[00:36] <humvee> I got 1 ans re: hawaii islands tidal bore
[00:36] <Ralf> and try to connect to http://webcam.kgmweb.com
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[00:37] <Ralf> i saw that
[00:37] <Ralf> whoever that was
[00:37] <Ralf> i need to know if it works
[00:37] <Ralf> humvee thanks
[00:38] <Tizza> besides...the pacific ocean...post shift?? maddness
[00:38] <humvee> splatter/not 4 the faint o heart - rite?
[00:38] <Tizza> in a home made boat whots more :(:(
[00:38] <hysterix> alright everyone, I'm turning in for the night. I'll talk to all ya'll tommorow...
[00:38] <Tizza> night hyst
[00:39] <hysterix> later guys
[00:39] <humvee> Ralf is this a way we will b able 2 see re: zt sessions
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[00:39] <Tizza> is funny actually i use to attend those chats when there was this many ppl each week...seems so long ago now
[00:40] <Tizza> now we have whot....100 plus each week?
[00:41] <tenshu`Zz> omg internet explorer has so much spywar
[00:42] <nibi> nibiru brings new meaning to ecclesiastes 1:9 "that which has been is what will be, that which is done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun."
[00:43] <nibi> we have probably been doing this same crap for thousands and thousands of years...build it up and knock it down
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[00:44] <tenshu`Zz> its nature. :D
[00:44] <Ralf> humvee: i have no idea, i'm not in charge of anything related to zt or ps or anything
[00:44] <humvee> oh - what is the viewer 4?
[00:44] <scooby> night hysterix
[00:45] <scooby> lol... issed that line...
[00:45] <scooby> missed
[00:45] <scooby> i gotta get a new monitor...
[00:45] <Tizza> :)
[00:45] <scooby> there..
[00:45] <scooby> better
[00:45] <scooby> the old whack
[00:45] <Tizza> smack around the chops
[00:47] <nibi> anybody think it's strange with all the fuss over iraq?....ancient sumeria?....city of the anunnaki?
[00:47] <Tizza> hey had a thought if anyone cares , if anyone is relying on car battery power,once they cack it(which they will) you can break em up and melt down the lead for sinkers for fishing
[00:47] <humvee> not strange profetic
[00:47] <Tizza> weres the connection from iraq to sumeria?
[00:48] <nibi> iraq is sumeria
[00:48] <scooby> yeah
[00:48] <Tizza> we do know that 100%?
[00:48] <scooby> any one listening to coast to coast?
[00:48] <Tizza> anything good on scooby?
[00:48] <scooby> guest says that within 90 days there will be a major calamity
[00:48] <humvee> iraq is sumer / babylon
[00:49] <scooby> says he has seen these types of things b4
[00:49] <scooby> claims to have called the authorities re: 9/11
[00:49] <humvee> yes did u hear him confirm px
[00:49] <scooby> 3 days prior
[00:49] <scooby> missed that if he did
[00:49] <scooby> it might be man made
[00:49] <nibi> iraq is mesopotamia, sumer, babylon...all the above....the cradle of civilization
[00:49] <scooby> now he's waffling a little on the time frame
[00:50] <scooby> could be anywherer from 30-130 days
[00:50] <humvee> he said yes but did not know time but sci correctly
[00:50] <Tizza> just a touch vague
[00:50] <humvee> says iminent destruction world wide cant see exactly why
[00:50] <scooby> hum: he said planet X is coming?
[00:50] <humvee> doesnt quite connect the dots but is rite on
[00:51] <scooby> he is just a human interpreting a vision
[00:51] <scooby> just like Nancy
[00:51] <Tizza> i have noticed many people seem to be so close to realising yet...i wounder if they ever will
[00:51] <scooby> possible to misinterpret
[00:51] <humvee> said he believes px is scienticicly proven n true
[00:51] <scooby> hmmm
[00:51] <scooby> musta missed that
[00:52] <humvee> good program hope his book comes out in time - so i can reas in my saf loc
[00:52] <scooby> what book?
[00:52] <Tizza> just logged in...listening
[00:52] <humvee> he is writting a book exp what prof and meanings
[00:52] <scooby> claims a major city will be destroyed by earthquake
[00:52] <humvee> should go to press 15th may 2003
[00:53] <scooby> lol
[00:53] <humvee> hehe
[00:53] <Tizza> lol alright
[00:53] <Tizza> who exactly is this guy?
[00:53] <scooby> Father something or other
[00:53] <scooby> one sec
[00:53] <Tizza> father????
[00:53] <scooby> yeah!
[00:53] <humvee> a priest who worked w/ father malici martin
[00:53] <scooby> right
[00:54] <Tizza> yes well...."little pebble" claims to be one too
[00:54] <humvee> talking on the ps earthquake
[00:54] <humvee> now
[00:54] <Tizza> he's a bloody nut but once again some threads coincide
[00:54] <scooby> yeah
[00:54] <scooby> he's way off on some stuff
[00:54] <scooby> but there is a nugget of truth
[00:55] <scooby> a big nugget
[00:55] <humvee> he is pretty close 2 the truth
[00:55] <Tizza> ive got it on...he sounds fair dinkum...
[00:55] <scooby> and i'm not talking about those green stinky ones either
[00:55] <humvee> everything he has seen is true but not how he interps
[00:55] <Tizza> yours are green??? woh!!
[00:55] <scooby> Spotlight on:
[00:55] <scooby> Signs of Possession
[00:55] <scooby> Tonight's guest, Father Andrew Wingate, was acquainted with the late Jesuit priest (and beloved Coast guest) Malachi Martin. In fact he even assisted him on one of his exorcisms. The documented practice of exorcism dates back to the time of Jesus and was frequently mentioned in the New Testament.
[00:55] <scooby> In his fascinating book which explored the secretive world of exorcisms, Hostage to the Devil, Father Martin detailed some of the common traits of possession which church authorities use to verify a case...cont.
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[00:55] <scooby> http://www.coasttocoastam.com
[00:55] <scooby> hey obany
[00:55] <obany> hi
[00:55] <Tizza> hey ob
[00:56] <nibi> does father wingate insist the zetas are demonically possessed?
[00:56] <Tizza> obany we r listening to interesting fella on coast to coast at the moment...might be worth a listen
[00:56] <humvee> no
[00:56] <nibi> are that the zetas are indeed demons?
[00:57] <humvee> no he is an exorist has exp w/demonics so not zetas
[00:57] <Tizza> thanks for that last bit too scooby
[00:58] <scooby> np
[00:58] <Tizza> background is always nice :)
[00:58] <obany> brb and then i will show something
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[00:59] <scooby> yup
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[01:00] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c19.htm
[01:00] <nibi> ironic how in the movie, "the exorcist" the demon went into the priest
[01:01] <Tizza> yes that all makes sense
[01:02] <nibi> attack the source
[01:03] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c24.htm
[01:03] <obany> brb again
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[01:03] <walt> Ok...Ok……..I will admit I am minion of Satan, but I swear the duties are purely ceremonial
[01:04] <walt> : )
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[03:05] <scooby> hey raincity
[03:08] <Tizza> most of em have gone, yes
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[03:19] <obany> look at the topic
[03:19] <obany> Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.
[03:21] * sti1gar is putting a garden in the back yard.
[03:22] * juditness is back.. =/ [been gone for: 11hrs 55mins 50secs] at 12:23:26
[03:22] <obany> the point is ... stay serious about it if you are in this channel ...
[03:26] <sti1gar> I am serious, we have the first water restrictions in Canberra for 30 years.. seriously weird weather.
[03:28] <obany> did you saw this yet www.shift2003.com lots of news
[03:30] <scooby> good site...
[03:30] <sti1gar> but what about all those books that predicted 2000, then 2001, then 2002?
[03:30] <scooby> they were wrong :)
[03:30] <obany> right . ... simply wrong
[03:31] <scooby> doesn't mean all others are wrong...
[03:31] <sti1gar> I guess the 'boy who cried wolf' principle kicks in eventually.
[03:33] <scooby> there are many people who have said 2003 is the year
[03:33] <scooby> the only other year that comes up is 2012
[03:33] <scooby> it's coming
[03:34] <scooby> just a matter of when
[03:34] <sti1gar> 2012 is the mayan calander one?
[03:34] <scooby> so either you are prepared now or you prepare later
[03:34] <scooby> and others
[03:34] <sti1gar> so how serious are people getting? underground bunkers, megalitres of water?
[03:34] <scooby> yes,
[03:34] <scooby> many are getting very serious
[03:35] <sti1gar> or just a rucksack with some biscuits & matches?
[03:35] <scooby> many others are spiritually preparing as well
[03:35] <scooby> different strokes for different folks
[03:35] <obany> underground bunkers won't be safe
[03:35] <scooby> right, didn't catch that one
[03:36] <sti1gar> practitioners of falun gong beleive it is about peoples hearts returning to truth, kindness & tolerance.
[03:36] <scooby> underground bunkers are supposed to be very unsafe
[03:36] <scooby> that is the same thing
[03:36] <scooby> ZT says
[03:36] <scooby> major changes in the orientation of humans
[03:36] <sti1gar> because changes in the earth are tightly controlled by higher beings,
[03:36] <scooby> towards each other and ourselves
[03:37] <scooby> interesting
[03:37] <scooby> Falun Gong says that?
[03:37] <sti1gar> if you read some of li hongzhi's lectures/books, he talks a lot about the future.
[03:40] <sti1gar> it is hard to see a change of heart, with GWB's attitude to iraq, not to mention Australia's current policies of bigotry and fear mongering.
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[03:43] <obany> hello
[03:43] <Messadot> hi
[03:46] <scooby> I can see why the Chinese fear it
[03:47] <Messadot> what can you see?
[03:48] <Tizza> Australia has just begun to follow a very dangerous path
[03:49] <Tizza> being an australian i lay the blame squarly at the feet of George W Bush
[03:49] <sti1gar> Tizza, what about johnny H ?
[03:50] <scooby> <sti1gar> practitioners of falun gong beleive it is about peoples hearts returning to truth, kindness & tolerance.
[03:50] <Tizza> johnny is a bush's ass licker
[03:50] <scooby> we were kinda talking about the falun gong
[03:50] <scooby> tizza: he is worthy of that blame
[03:50] <Tizza> not to mention that usa has SUCH political sway power in this country johnny couldnt rebel even if he wanted too (which i doubt)
[03:51] <scooby> pardon my ignorance, but johnny who?
[03:51] <scooby> your PM?
[03:51] <sti1gar> Tizza, I think there is much more than meets the eye to Australian politics,
[03:51] <Tizza> the sanctions to our country impossed by that dickhead over there would cripple us
[03:51] <Tizza> he has no choice
[03:51] <sti1gar> just look at the people overboard scam, the way the Aust. Defence minister speaks up about 'strike first' and suddenly rumsfield is cheering him on.
[03:52] <Tizza> oh right and that was his idea????
[03:52] <Tizza> com on
[03:53] <sti1gar> I mean it seems clear that the Australia govt are being spoonfed their lines by the US.
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[03:53] <Tizza> sorry if that offends any one....but we have just about had enough here
[03:59] <sti1gar> what is planet-x ?
[04:00] <obany> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3E1CB607.5C79C152%40zetatalk.com&output=gplain
[04:00] <obany> stilgar: check www.zetatalk.com
[04:00] <obany> it's there
[04:00] <obany> anyway brb
[04:00] <scooby> no offense taken
[04:01] <scooby> i hate the W too
[04:02] <sti1gar> he is a member of a species, a part of all humankind.
[04:02] <sti1gar> his flaws are reflected in all human beings,
[04:04] <Tizza> who bush?
[04:05] <sti1gar> yep...
[04:05] <Tizza> hes on his own i reckon....not part of my breed
[04:05] <sti1gar> greed, arrogance, deception, charm, charisma..
[04:05] <scooby> he is one of the illuminati
[04:05] <scooby> exactly
[04:06] <Tizza> yes we all have it...but most know were to keep it
[04:07] <sti1gar> how many people do you know who would suffer a little themselves, to do good for another person?
[04:08] <sti1gar> who would give up their place in a queue at a shopping sale?
[04:08] <sti1gar> who would tell the truth if it meant great disadvantage in material or emotional terms?
[04:08] <Tizza> yes i do know one for a fact
[04:09] <sti1gar> there are many on the planet, but I don't think they are in the majority.
[04:09] <Tizza> i have done those things and will again because i was raised to do the right thing...to think of others around you
[04:09] <Tizza> its not much to ask
[04:09] <Tizza> couldnt you?
[04:10] <Tizza> (and i definatly aint no angel!! :)
[04:14] <sti1gar> looks like Canberra is a safe place to be according to the Zeta's whoever they may be.
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[04:20] <Tizza> sorry my server booted me :(
[04:21] <Tizza> sti: whot i wanted to say was that my family and my wifes family would all do those things :)
[04:22] <Tizza> there is still plenty of good people in the world never fear :)
[04:22] <Tizza> ok im done night! :)
[04:22] <sti1gar> sleep well :)
[04:22] <Tizza> :):)
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[04:23] <sti1gar> and then there were none..
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[05:12] <from_the_TheNetherlands> hi
[05:13] <from_Texas> hi obany
[05:13] <from_the_TheNetherlands> hi
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[05:13] <from_TheNetherlands> you fine from_Texas
[05:13] <from_TheNetherlands> ?
[05:14] <from_Texas> doing good here
[05:14] <from_TheNetherlands> good to hear that
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[05:17] <obany> had some discussion here ... .... like an hour ago or so
[05:17] <from_Texas> anything exciting
[05:19] <obany> not much, someoene listened to a father on coasttocoastam talking about 3 days of earthquakes
[05:19] <obany> and richter 9 earthquakes or so
[05:20] <from_Texas> sounds interesting
[05:20] <from_Texas> time for me to get ready for work... talk to you later
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[05:21] <tex-away> have a great day obany
[05:21] <obany> will go to my part time job in aprox 35 minuts or so ... so well thnx and talk to you later
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[05:29] <obany> my Queen :P
[05:29] <QueenVee> hi obany
[05:30] <QueenVee> obany, it looks like i will have to cancel this saturday's zetatalk session in this channel...
[05:30] <obany> hiwhy?
[05:30] <QueenVee> i can't be here
[05:30] <QueenVee> i'm going to toronto to pick up my new dog
[05:31] <obany> woops but does that mean that there is a reason to cancel it, then again it's up to you ...
[05:31] <QueenVee> my cousin is driving me and that's the only time she is available to do it
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[05:31] <QueenVee> well, i think it's probably best
[05:32] <obany> well it's up to you ... you decide, then the #zetatalk session could be a little longer maybe
[05:33] <obany> or start a little earlier
[05:33] <QueenVee> yes....
[05:33] <obany> think that would be best .. i think ... If Nancy wants to do that that is ..
[05:33] <QueenVee> maybe she would appreciate the break.... ;-)
[05:34] <obany> maybe maybe ..well i will ask
[05:35] <obany> think i will email to her about this, ... ...
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[05:35] <QueenVee> well, don't ask yet, i still have to confirm when i'm going on saturday....
[05:35] <obany> okay okay
[05:35] <QueenVee> hello cappy -- what brings you to this room?
[05:35] <cappy> i am wondering where i might find zetas so that i may cap as many of their asses as possible
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[05:36] <obany> sigh
[05:36] <obany> what a dickhead
[05:36] <obany> brb
[05:37] <QueenVee> i *may* be able to get my cousin to go later in the day, as well....
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[05:37] <obany> okay okay .... .
[05:48] * tex-away off to work.. have a good day
[05:48] <QueenVee> bye tex
[05:52] <obany> sigh some postings about Nancy's adress and phonenumber on sci.astro ... grasping at straw it seems
[05:52] <obany> talking about going there in may for a starparty, because well they still say that it won't occur
[05:55] <QueenVee> strange people
[05:56] <obany> yes
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[06:43] <Earth420> Hey J Man whats up?
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[07:31] <Dsarith-away> Good Morning all
[07:31] <Curiosity> morning
[07:32] <Dsarith-away> I just saw you post in TT
[07:32] <Dsarith-away> Yes there are humans
[07:32] <Dsarith-away> They are just asleep
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[07:32] * Dsairth is now known as Dsarith
[07:32] <ukuz> zzzzzzzz...
[07:33] <Dsarith> :)
[07:33] <Curiosity> where are the majority of people from in there?
[07:33] <Curiosity> i didnt think it could be night everywhere in the world at once
[07:34] * Queen-away is now known as QueenVee
[07:34] <QueenVee> hello Curiosity -- what brings you to this room?
[07:35] <Curiosity> just wanted to talk to others about the pole shift, etc
[07:35] <Dsarith> Hi QV
[07:35] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[07:36] <QueenVee> hey dsarith -- how's it going?
[07:36] <Curiosity> about a year
[07:36] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in? are you in a safe location?
[07:37] <QueenVee> you're in australia, yes?
[07:37] <Curiosity> yeah
[07:37] <Curiosity> thankfully
[07:37] <Curiosity> i have a rough idea of where i can head to with my "group"
[07:38] <QueenVee> and who does your "group" consist of? at what point where you be relocating with them?
[07:39] <Curiosity> im 19, my group consists of me, my mum, my brother, my girlfriend and her mum and possibly stepfather
[07:39] <Curiosity> its kinda hard to convince them of things like the poleshift though.
[07:40] <QueenVee> ah....
[07:40] <Curiosity> im not packing my bags yet, but trying to reason through what will need to be done
[07:40] <dave7> Hi Queen/everyone, just had a major break through on my waterfilter which i thought to share. STEFANI make a 'STERILAQUA CANDLE' that has a double silver-coloidal coating. Will remove 99.9% of bacteria & 99.7% lead. i plan to use it in a homemade SIPHON CARTRIDGE which has plastic tube connected. Can add 100% polyester padding in between cartridge & filter to catch larger nasties.
[07:40] <QueenVee> that's good, having a well thought out plan in place...
[07:41] <QueenVee> dave: cool, do you have a link for us?
[07:42] <dave7> Just type in Stefani. brb
[07:46] <QueenVee> dave7: can't find anythihng under "Stefani" -- it would be great if you could provide a link....
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[07:48] <DRGREEN> hello everybody
[07:48] <QueenVee> hey DrGreen
[07:49] <dave7> Sorry, to many stafani's
[07:49] <dave7> www.stefani.ind.br/ingles.htm
[07:50] <QueenVee> ah, fab, thanks
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[07:51] <QueenVee> hello yggdrasil
[07:52] <dave7> And this is a great one on water=www.cairns.net.au/~sharefin/markets/alt9.htm
[07:52] <QueenVee> ygg: please remember to mark yourself as "away" when you're not in the channel....
[07:53] <QueenVee> dave7: when you post URLs, make sure they have a space on either side, that way people can just click on them and go directly to them....
[07:53] <QueenVee> like this: www.cairns.net.au/~sharefin/markets/alt9.htm
[07:53] <Dsarith> Hi yggd and Drgreen
[07:53] <QueenVee> Dave: mmmm, bad link
[07:53] <yggdrasil> herro
[07:53] <Dsarith> I got it QV
[07:53] <Dsarith> I think I did anyway :-)
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[07:55] <dave7> Dont think that wiggle was right . to high. shold be in middle. Leave space Queen, will do. your teachin me.
[07:55] <QueenVee> Dsarith: got what?
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[07:56] <QueenVee> Dave7: do you have a corrected version of that link?
[07:56] <QueenVee> Juditness: hello
[07:56] <juditness> hello
[07:56] <dave7> brb
[07:56] <QueenVee> Juditness: don't take this the wrong way, i'm just curious: why have you been idling in this channel of late?
[07:56] <QueenVee> i don't have any problem with it....
[07:57] <QueenVee> just curious....
[07:57] <juditness> in case you needed some help
[07:57] <QueenVee> ah, that's what i thought
[07:57] <juditness> you could ask
[07:57] <QueenVee> THANKS!!!
[07:57] <juditness> =]
[07:57] <QueenVee> much appreciated
[07:57] <juditness> yw ;)
[07:57] * juditness is away.. work :) [mail: judit@geekychick.org] at 16:59:06
[07:57] <juditness> bbl
[07:57] <QueenVee> in other words, you're here out of pity..... lol, just joking
[07:58] <juditness> no not really
[07:58] <juditness> you just had a lot of questions in connection with bans, your bnc etv
[07:58] <juditness> etc*
[07:58] <QueenVee> i know, i was just joking
[07:58] <juditness> so i thought i'd stick around to help
[07:58] <juditness> :)
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[08:04] <QueenVee> hello steve
[08:04] <steve> hi there
[08:04] <steve> im new
[08:05] <Curiosity> hey steve
[08:05] <QueenVee> so what brings you to this room, steve?
[08:05] <steve> the pole shift
[08:05] <QueenVee> steve: how long have you been aware of the coming poleshift and zetatalk?
[08:06] <steve> 1 year
[08:06] <steve> if not more
[08:06] <QueenVee> whereabouts in the UK are you?
[08:06] <steve> im still open minded..need guidence i guess.
[08:07] <steve> do you know the uk?
[08:07] <QueenVee> yes, i know it very well
[08:07] <steve> essex...
[08:07] <steve> lol
[08:07] <QueenVee> nearest large town/city?
[08:08] <steve> southend...
[08:08] <DRGREEN> So Steve, are you taking the 2003 date seriously?
[08:08] <dave7> The link is: www.cairns.net.au/~<---this wiggle should be in the middle.Goes on address bar window but not in this box. Any ideas Queen?
[08:09] <steve> like anything that is disussed you need absoulote truth.....that's all im after.
[08:09] <QueenVee> steve: near Kent....
[08:09] <QueenVee> well, steve, this is a chatroom for those already strongly convinced of the May 15 poleshift -- we do not try to convince anyone here of "the truth"....
[08:10] <QueenVee> steve: if you're looking for that kind of discussion, i think you'll find #earthchanges more to your liking
[08:10] <steve> good.....in a strange way i hope it's true ..does that make sense?
[08:11] <DRGREEN> Steve, are you preparing for the shift or planning to do so?
[08:11] <QueenVee> steve: if you wait for "absolute proof", it will be too late -- because it will never come
[08:11] <DRGREEN> yes steve
[08:11] <DRGREEN> I feel the same way.
[08:11] <DRGREEN> I kinda hope it happens, although I also fear the physical aspect.
[08:11] <steve> im on dialysis i cant plan much i need a machine to survive in today's world.
[08:12] <QueenVee> oh, dear, that's a bad situation
[08:12] <DRGREEN> that sucks big time steve. I feel sorry for you.
[08:12] <QueenVee> i'm sorry
[08:12] <steve> no not realy i will go on...
[08:12] <Ralf> hrm, that's bad dude
[08:12] <Ralf> you'd be pretty fucked with no electricity.
[08:12] <QueenVee> Ralf: i also doubt he has his own dialysis machine....
[08:13] <dave7> Do you believe in spirit steve?
[08:13] <steve> thats right ralph
[08:13] <Ralf> ugh my cat's being annoying.
[08:13] <steve> off course...
[08:13] <DRGREEN> :)
[08:13] <QueenVee> Ralf: did i tell you that my dog died last week?
[08:13] <dave7> Well steve your laughin mate
[08:13] <Ralf> that's sad :-(
[08:13] <Ralf> my roommate's a vet tech
[08:14] <DRGREEN> Hope it was peacefull
[08:14] <steve> why dave
[08:14] <QueenVee> well, good news, i'm getting a new dog this weekend!
[08:14] <Ralf> :D
[08:14] <DRGREEN> or did he got runover?
[08:14] <DRGREEN> :)
[08:14] <dave7> cause spirit does no die
[08:14] <steve> i know...
[08:14] <DRGREEN> soul
[08:15] <QueenVee> DrGreen: he was 16 years old, was diagnosed with an enlarged heart a year ago, has been slowly declining; suffered a stroke Thursday night that caused partial paralysis.... we had him put to sleep....
[08:15] <steve> does nancy come in here?
[08:15] <QueenVee> steve: only on saturday's, for a one-hour zetatalk session
[08:15] <steve> what time in englsnd?
[08:15] <QueenVee> just a sec, steve
[08:16] <QueenVee> steve: full info available here: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=2
[08:16] <steve> ty queen
[08:16] <QueenVee> but i will be cancelling this saturday's session, cause i have to go to toronto to pick up my new dog...
[08:16] <QueenVee> first session i've ever cancelled
[08:17] <steve> when will the red star be visible to me in england?
[08:17] <dave7> That little doggy will be good for you Queen
[08:17] <DRGREEN> about last week of march.
[08:17] <QueenVee> same time as it is visible to everyone else -- 7 weeks prior to the shift
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[08:17] <DRGREEN> count on april.
[08:18] <dave7> Heaps of kisses, unconditional love
[08:18] <QueenVee> DrGreen: i'm very excited, it's done much to ease my grief....
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[08:18] <DRGREEN> Nice. I hope he helps you
[08:18] <steve> i have told my friends ,girlfriend,family about the pole shift they think im nuts.
[08:18] <QueenVee> dave7: apparently he is a very cuddly little fellow; and i'm so relieved he has a good name -- Harry -- i'd HATE it if he had some cutesy dog name....
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[08:19] <DRGREEN> Harry!
[08:19] <QueenVee> steve: it's difficult to get others to examine the subject themselves
[08:19] <DRGREEN> sounds nice
[08:19] <steve> i know
[08:19] <DRGREEN> Yeah Steve, lots of people have those kind of probs.
[08:19] <QueenVee> dave7: what are your dogs' names?
[08:19] <steve> has anyone seen a ufo?
[08:19] <dave7> GOOD BOY HARRY say that a lot
[08:20] <DRGREEN> I have
[08:20] <steve> where
[08:20] <DRGREEN> But I cannot tell if it was an extraterrestrial spaceship or not.
[08:20] <DRGREEN> Here, in the Netherlands.
[08:20] <QueenVee> dave7: dogs should have dignified names; my childhood beagle was Sam, my last dog was Ben....
[08:20] <DRGREEN> yeah.
[08:21] <steve> did you see just lights?
[08:21] <DRGREEN> yes, orange, with a black disk inside.
[08:22] <steve> close or far away/
[08:22] <DRGREEN> Bit the light stayed orange, no flickering or changing colour.
[08:22] <QueenVee> steve: we already have someone who comes to this room under the name "steve" -- could you change your nick to something like steveUK.... so we can differentiate between you?
[08:22] <steve> now?
[08:22] <QueenVee> steve: to do that, simply type the following and hit enter: /nick steveUK
[08:22] <DRGREEN> I would guess about 200-300 meters away.
[08:22] <QueenVee> or whatever you want to change it to
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[08:23] <dave7> Spoty(boss dog) diga(his son) Nimmy(his brother) Gaia(his sister)Maddy(his mother) Tiger(foxy/chiwawa/heeler) & Gabby(Aust. Kelpie/heeler)
[08:23] <DRGREEN> :)
[08:23] <stevie> ok?
[08:23] <QueenVee> great, stevie
[08:23] <DRGREEN> fine by me.
[08:23] <QueenVee> dave: good names, a friend of mine had a dog named Gaia..
[08:23] <stevie> so where are all you going to escape the shift?
[08:24] <DRGREEN> I'm not sure. I'm preparing anyway.
[08:24] <QueenVee> stevie: i have already relocated to a safer location in ontario canada than i was in before
[08:24] <dave7> Very gentle soul this is. (not to rabbits)
[08:24] <DRGREEN> I'll see what happens.
[08:24] <dave7> SHE IS
[08:24] <stevie> im on the cost i have no chance
[08:24] <stevie> coast
[08:24] <DRGREEN> Me neither, if I do not move.
[08:25] <DRGREEN> Rotterdam will be completely flushed away.
[08:25] <stevie> mount etna started again..
[08:25] <QueenVee> stevie: yes, saw that....
[08:25] <stevie> edgar cayce .....
[08:26] <DRGREEN> what's up with eddie?
[08:26] <QueenVee> eddie?
[08:26] <DRGREEN> eddy-edgar
[08:27] <DRGREEN> steve, what about cayce?
[08:27] <QueenVee> he predicted that the changes would come soon after Mt.Etna (and two other volcanos) reawakened....
[08:27] <stevie> he said about mount etna the starting of something great
[08:27] <DRGREEN> haha
[08:27] <DRGREEN> aha i mean
[08:27] <QueenVee> the two others are Vesuvius...
[08:28] <QueenVee> and one in the states whose name escapes me right now....
[08:28] <stevie> so there are sighns
[08:28] <DRGREEN> etna, where is that, has it been inactive? for how long?
[08:28] <dave7> Would love to stay but 3.22am here, low battery power, brain not good. love to all. dave7 out
[08:28] <QueenVee> Mt. something
[08:28] <QueenVee> bye dave
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[08:28] <QueenVee> DrGreen: are you kidding: it erupted a couple of months ago, and has been smoldering ever since -- it was big news
[08:29] <stevie> mmm
[08:30] <DRGREEN> I'm not kidding. I've heard if Etna of course, but where is it? And how long has it been inactive before it started again?
[08:30] <DRGREEN> Italy or so?
[08:30] <DRGREEN> US?
[08:30] <QueenVee> yes, italy
[08:30] <DRGREEN> yeah.
[08:30] <stevie> do you think the zetas are us? from another time zone?
[08:31] <DRGREEN> no
[08:31] <stevie> time travel/
[08:31] <QueenVee> drgreen: here's a full update on etna: http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,3367,1429_W_736192,00.html
[08:31] <DRGREEN> They say not so.
[08:31] <DRGREEN> tanks.
[08:31] <QueenVee> stevie: no, ZT does not suggest that at all
[08:31] <DRGREEN> th
[08:31] <stevie> just a question.
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[08:32] <QueenVee> stevie: there's really no need to speculate about things like that, as ZT provides lots of info about who the zetas are.....
[08:32] <QueenVee> hello Buente, still asleep?
[08:33] <stevie> i know im just excited to be here..i know lots just not thinking..
[08:33] <DRGREEN> Nice to know Steve :)
[08:34] <stevie> ty
[08:34] <QueenVee> we get a lot of people coming here with pet theories about who the zetas REALLY are, what their REAL agenda is; that they're LYING to us, or not telling us the whole truth, etc. etc. It really is a waste of time, and a way to avoid having to deal with the reality of the poleshift....
[08:35] <DRGREEN> I know QV, I hope you do not mean Steve specifically.
[08:35] <stevie> its quite a topic to get your head round.
[08:35] <DRGREEN> i should say stevie
[08:35] <QueenVee> no, just explaining
[08:35] <QueenVee> we really have no choice but to take ZetaTalk at face value....
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[08:36] <QueenVee> either that, or reject it completely....
[08:36] <QueenVee> because how does one determine what parts are "accurate" and which parts are not? we simply don't know....
[08:36] <stevie> it's like i belive in god..but i see no god.......
[08:36] <QueenVee> Valdrix: hello
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[08:36] <Dsarith> Just got caught up
[08:37] <DRGREEN> yeah.
[08:37] * QueenVee feels a need for a caffeine fix coming on....
[08:37] <Dsarith> I cant help but notice QV that all your dogs have male names... hmmm. Some deeper meaning perhaps :)
[08:37] <stevie> so there's bound to be questions from us.....belive or not ..
[08:38] <DRGREEN> :)
[08:38] <QueenVee> Dsarith: uh.... that's because they've all been male...?
[08:38] <QueenVee> i think it would signify something much more disturbing if i felt compelled to call my male dogs by female names, don't you?
[08:38] <Dsarith> Yes, yes it would :)
[08:39] <QueenVee> hehe
[08:39] <stevie> queen what other chat rooms are there?
[08:39] <QueenVee> stevie: well, there's another room i recommend called #earthchanges...
[08:39] <stevie> ty
[08:39] <stevie> i will try soon
[08:40] <QueenVee> that is one for more general PX/poleshift discussion, less specific than this one....
[08:40] <QueenVee> some people who come here also go there
[08:40] <stevie> queen
[08:40] <QueenVee> then there is one that i DON'T recommend, called #troubled_times -- which is a room where all the debunkers hang out....
[08:40] <QueenVee> stevie: you can hang out in more than one room at the same time....
[08:40] <Dsarith> That a fun room though ...
[08:41] <QueenVee> Dsarith: what, tt?
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[08:41] <Dsarith> Yes
[08:41] <Dsarith> They are so right wing its fun
[08:41] <QueenVee> well.... yes..... i used to find it entertaining as well.... then it just got.... creepy.....
[08:42] <Dsarith> Yah, I generally ignore it
[08:42] <Dsarith> Steve just joined TT
[08:42] <QueenVee> i used to get great fun now and then by going over there and torturing them... but the novelty kinda wore off....
[08:42] <QueenVee> Dsarith: is anybody talking to him?
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[08:43] <Dsarith> I tried to get people to open their minds just a small bit and they wont at all
[08:43] <Dsarith> So I gave up
[08:43] <stevie> jesus is in the other room
[08:43] <QueenVee> Dsarith: by the way, i have a female cat.... with a female name....
[08:43] <QueenVee> stevie: lol
[08:43] <stevie> lol
[08:43] <Dsarith> Then you are redeemed QV .. lol
[08:43] <QueenVee> yeah, Buhhda hangs out there sometimes too....
[08:43] <Ralf> holy crap
[08:43] <stevie> wow
[08:43] <Ralf> jesus is on irc ?
[08:43] <Dsarith> I have spoke to them both
[08:44] <Dsarith> Very enlightening experience
[08:44] <QueenVee> ralf: in the flesh.... so to speak.....
[08:44] <Dsarith> Virtual Flesh...
[08:44] <QueenVee> Dsarith: but i didn't name her. her name is Angel -- and it suits her, because she is very angelic....
[08:44] <Dsarith> I like that name
[08:44] <Dsarith> I think you are biased
[08:45] <QueenVee> stevie: there are some really REALLY strange people over in #troubled_times
[08:45] <stevie> is there people here all the time?
[08:45] <QueenVee> a lot of the time
[08:45] <stevie> great
[08:46] <Curiosity> QueenVee: they probably think the same of the people in here..
[08:46] <QueenVee> Dsarith: i've had a lot of cats, and this one is quite unique, has quite the personality; she ADORED Ben and misses him very much; i think she'll enjoy the new dog
[08:46] <stevie> if i ask questions you dont like im sorry just feeling my wat around..ok..
[08:46] <QueenVee> curiosity: no doubt
[08:46] <QueenVee> stevie: no problem
[08:46] <stevie> thank's
[08:47] <Dsarith> QV: I think its great that you are getting a new dog for both of your sakes
[08:47] <Dsarith> Angel needs a new playmate
[08:48] <stevie> im hoping this planet comes in do you think im crazy?
[08:49] <QueenVee> stevie: why do you hope it comes in?
[08:49] <QueenVee> Dsarith: i was talking to the nurse at my doctor's office yesterday about all this. she told me her husband has always had a dog, and that when his last dog died he cried for two weeks and was very depressed. So she finally said to him, oh, go to the pound and get a new dog for god's sake....
[08:49] <Curiosity> stevie: i think you havent yet truly grasped the nature of the issue at hand
[08:49] <QueenVee> curiosity: why do you say that?
[08:49] <stevie> just want the earth to be cleansed...
[08:49] <QueenVee> stevie: yes, a lot of us feel that way
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[08:50] <stevie> the elite has ruined our earth
[08:50] <Valdrix> rofl.. we all had a part in that stevie.
[08:50] <Valdrix> the elite just gave us what we wanted..and then hehe told us what we needed
[08:50] <stevie> i guess
[08:50] <Curiosity> exactly
[08:50] <QueenVee> stevie: well, we do seem to be stuck in a holding pattern; difficult to see how to change firmly entrenched patterns....
[08:50] <QueenVee> yes, valdrix is right
[08:51] <stevie> a new start for mother ear..th
[08:51] <QueenVee> we are all collectively responsible for what goes on here
[08:52] <QueenVee> we've all played a part, either through direct action, or by our inaction, and therefore complicity
[08:52] <DRGREEN> Valdrx, why have we all played a part in this?
[08:52] <Curiosity> stevie: its happened before, yet here we are again.
[08:52] <Valdrix> why?
[08:52] <QueenVee> maybe not in this lifetime, but certainly in previous ones
[08:52] <Valdrix> hehe, look around you, and what do you see?
[08:52] <DRGREEN> what if you're a starchild?
[08:52] <QueenVee> curiosity: what's your point?
[08:52] <Valdrix> the electricity you use to type this message....
[08:52] <QueenVee> oh, please, green
[08:52] <Valdrix> starchild... would still have to eat
[08:53] <Curiosity> QueenVee: my point is, it isnt a permanent cleansing.
[08:53] <QueenVee> one of the reasons this planet is in such a mess is that people are always looking to deflect responsibility
[08:53] <QueenVee> Curiosity: well, yes, acccording to ZT, it is
[08:53] <Dsarith> But its never my fault!! :)
[08:54] <Curiosity> QueenVee: perhaps, but its happened many times before while only being temporary.
[08:54] <QueenVee> Curiosity: planet earth has been designated to be an STO planet in future
[08:54] <DRGREEN> I'm prepared to take the blame. The rest of the world just doesn't :)
[08:54] <QueenVee> Curoisity: that's because it was still a planet of UNDECIDED souls, in third density
[08:55] <QueenVee> STO and UNDECIDED souls will no longer incarnate on the earth after the poleshift.... and within 100 years it will switch to 4th density
[08:55] <QueenVee> so there's a big difference between this one and previous ones
[08:55] <stevie> i hope i make it to 4th density
[08:55] <QueenVee> earth has paid its dues
[08:55] <DRGREEN> In your next
[08:55] <Valdrix> sto?
[08:55] <QueenVee> Service to others vs service to self
[08:55] <QueenVee> STO vs STS
[08:56] <QueenVee> oh, right, my mistake
[08:56] <Valdrix> you say, sto will not reincarnate here?
[08:56] <QueenVee> should have said STS
[08:56] <Valdrix> lol
[08:56] <QueenVee> CORRECTION: STS and UNDECIDED souls will no longer incarnate on the earth after the poleshift.... and within 100 years it will switch to 4th density
[08:58] <stevie> with everone in this chat room do we all know what way we are going?
[08:58] <QueenVee> what do you mean, what way we are going?
[08:59] <stevie> i might have been very evil in last life ..but good in this life do we choose are is it made foe us what density we go to..
[08:59] <QueenVee> stevie: read the DENSITY section of zetatalk; it is choice
[08:59] <QueenVee> and it is not the result of one lifetime
[09:00] <QueenVee> CORRECTION: read the ORIENTATION section of zetatalk, not the DENSITY section
[09:00] <QueenVee> a soul's orientation is decided over many lifetimes, not just one
[09:00] <stevie> its just nice to talk to people about it instead just reading what the zetas say...
[09:00] <QueenVee> that's been the whole point of life on earth -- it's a school in which to learn the lessons of orientation
[09:01] <QueenVee> and school's out now
[09:01] <QueenVee> you've either passed or you haven't
[09:01] <stevie> gooooooooooooooooooood
[09:01] <stevie> hold on to your hat's time
[09:01] <QueenVee> if you've passed, you'll continue on earth and partake in an STO-4thdensity world
[09:01] <QueenVee> if you've failed (i.e. you're firmly STS), you'll to go a world with other STS entities
[09:02] <QueenVee> if you've not progressed, and are still UNDECIDED....
[09:02] <DRGREEN> God judges, but we're all part of him. Some need 1000 lifetimes to learn something where others need 10.
[09:02] <stevie> can i ask you all a question..plz dont be upset by it.....
[09:02] <QueenVee> you will go to another third density world of UNDECIDEDs and start your lessons all over again
[09:02] <DRGREEN> ask, I never get upset, even when punched in the face.
[09:02] <stevie> lol
[09:02] <QueenVee> well, i get a little upset when punched in the face....
[09:03] <stevie> if the red star is not visable at time stated by the zetas..how will you feel?
[09:03] <DRGREEN> I'll say kindly "thank you, would you like another one?"
[09:03] <DRGREEN> bad
[09:04] <QueenVee> i'll be disappointed,but not devestated.... because i also plan for the possibility it won't happen....
[09:04] <Valdrix> um..ok stevie.. what is it you want to say?
[09:04] <QueenVee> you should never put your eggs all in one basket
[09:04] <DRGREEN> terrible, I've been mislead. All for nothing. I'd hate god.
[09:04] <Valdrix> nm
[09:04] <QueenVee> DrGreen: no one can mislead you, you can only mislead yourself
[09:05] <DRGREEN> But eventually that'll go away, and I'll probably be up to finding the truth (again).
[09:05] <QueenVee> god man
[09:05] <stevie> i love you all..you seem great people to me...xx
[09:05] <QueenVee> good man
[09:05] <Valdrix> lol
[09:05] <QueenVee> hehe
[09:05] <Valdrix> no px in may?
[09:05] <Valdrix> lol
[09:05] <Valdrix> it will come
[09:06] <Valdrix> if not in may.. then in june.. if not in 2003.. then in 2004..
[09:06] <Valdrix> when ever...
[09:06] <QueenVee> everything is a learning experience; should that happen, i'll set about learning from the experience
[09:06] <stevie> it so hot this topic my keyboard is burning
[09:06] <Valdrix> :P
[09:06] <DRGREEN> :)
[09:06] <QueenVee> brb, gotta get coffee
[09:07] <stevie> brb.....
[09:07] <Valdrix> noooooo coffee
[09:07] <Valdrix> coffee is the devil
[09:07] <DRGREEN> I would like some too! give me lots of milk and two sugars thank you.
[09:08] <Valdrix> oops
[09:08] <Valdrix> http://www.wrightworld.net/poleshiftnewspage2.htm
[09:09] <Dsarith> DRGreen: That is not coffee..
[09:10] <Dsarith> Coffee should be black no sugar no milk
[09:10] <DRGREEN> blablabla
[09:10] <DRGREEN> I hear that from others too.
[09:10] <DRGREEN> Bu I think coffe is coffe, what would you like to call it then?
[09:10] <DRGREEN> coffee
[09:11] <Dsarith> Sweet Caffeine mixture thingy
[09:11] <Valdrix> um.... a shake
[09:11] <DRGREEN> hehe
[09:11] <Dsarith> :)
[09:12] <Valdrix> thats how i like it too tho.. i fill the cup about 1/4 the way full of suger.. then hehe some coffee on top
[09:12] <Dsarith> Nasty
[09:13] <Dsarith> Just pour the sugar in your mouth and swig it down with coffee. Its easier that way... lol
[09:13] <DRGREEN> :)
[09:14] <DRGREEN> The reason why I drink my coffee the way I drink it, is because I do not like the taste of coffee at all :)
[09:14] <Valdrix> anyone ever hear of Bruce Beach
[09:14] <Dsarith> Who is BB
[09:14] <DRGREEN> I just like the kick of caffeine.
[09:15] <Dsarith> Jolt Soda will do the same
[09:15] <Dsarith> Have you ever heard of it
[09:15] <DRGREEN> What's that? I hope no bubbles, I need it the first thing in the morning.
[09:15] <Dsarith> Their Slogan is Double the Sugar Double the Caffeine
[09:15] <Valdrix> naa jolt doesent have quite the same kick.
[09:15] <DRGREEN> Is soda bubbles?
[09:16] <Dsarith> Its a soda, like DR Pepper
[09:16] <Dsarith> Valdrix: I tried it and just cant drink it
[09:16] <Dsarith> Way too sweet
[09:18] <stevie> got to go and do dinner thank's for you time and support see you all soon...
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[09:19] <Dsarith> See ya STevie
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[09:32] <Valdrix> everyone needs to be quiet...
[09:32] <Valdrix> cant hear myself think in here
[09:33] <QueenVee> hehe
[09:33] <QueenVee> sorry, i just have such LOUD THOUGHTS.....
[09:33] <QueenVee> in keepint with my personality....
[09:33] <Valdrix> lol
[09:35] <obaway> <QueenVee> you will go to another third density world of UNDECIDEDs and start your lessons all over again
[09:35] <obaway> that's not exactly right Queen
[09:35] <obaway> all over again
[09:36] <QueenVee> no, that was hyperbole
[09:36] <QueenVee> continue your lessons
[09:36] <QueenVee> better?
[09:37] <obaway> yup
[09:37] <QueenVee> :-)
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[09:43] <QueenVee> hi ret
[09:43] <reticuli> hello
[09:44] <QueenVee> have you solved your textbook problem yet?
[09:45] <reticuli> yes :)... using barnes and noble, wal mart and half.com. Still waiting to arrange shipment through half.com though. I cant believe that I just spaced that. I just assumed that the bookstore would have the books. But I guess since the classes are two semester that they only carry the books at the beginning of the year (first semester)
[09:46] <reticuli> a major headache
[09:46] <QueenVee> too bad...
[09:46] <QueenVee> how's the baby?
[09:46] <reticuli> She has a diaper rash
[09:46] <reticuli> but other than that she's thriving
[09:47] <reticuli> my wife is still recovering, she's on antibiotics now and feeling really low energy
[09:48] <QueenVee> oh, dear, that's not good
[09:48] <QueenVee> must be a very stressful time for you
[09:48] <reticuli> the baby really likes to be supported pright so she can stand on two feet. I swear she took a set of steps the other day
[09:48] <reticuli> :)
[09:48] <QueenVee> a go-getter...
[09:49] <reticuli> no, its not good... we are monitoring it
[09:49] <reticuli> yes, sagitarian sun with gemini ascendant, going to be very adventurous
[09:49] <reticuli> outgoing and active
[09:49] <QueenVee> fer sure
[09:49] <QueenVee> also a split personality
[09:50] <QueenVee> a four way split
[09:50] <reticuli> really?
[09:50] <QueenVee> both Sag and F
[09:50] <QueenVee> both Sag and Gemini have a duality apect to them
[09:50] <reticuli> "split personality".... she out to get along with my mother
[09:51] <QueenVee> Gemini: the twins; Sag, half human/half animal
[09:51] <reticuli> very interesting... you know all her signs are mutable
[09:51] <reticuli> yes , thats tue
[09:51] <QueenVee> well, a more positive way of putting it, would be to say that she will be "multifaceted"....
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[09:51] <reticuli> tue=true
[09:51] <reticuli> lol
[09:51] <Ivana69> http://www.junk.co.yu/sexpictures/asia.html come and see my sexy pictures:)
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[09:51] <QueenVee> hello ivana -- what brings you to this room?
[09:52] <reticuli> she'll be a real handful im sure
[09:52] <QueenVee> lord
[09:52] <QueenVee> me, my Leo sun and Taurus moon have always pulled against each other
[09:53] <reticuli> yeah, well I am sag sun capricorn moon
[09:53] <QueenVee> they are opposites, so i tend to deal in polarities
[09:53] <QueenVee> yes, same kind of pulls involved there
[09:53] <QueenVee> fire vs earth
[09:53] <reticuli> right
[09:53] <reticuli> whats your ascendent?
[09:53] <QueenVee> libra
[09:54] <reticuli> I am a scorpio... water right?
[09:54] <QueenVee> i like to think that balances things out.... ;-)
[09:54] <QueenVee> yes, water
[09:54] <reticuli> lol
[09:54] <obaway> happens all the time on the Efnet, advertising for sex sites , just don't click on it.. that's all
[09:54] <reticuli> ok
[09:54] <reticuli> hehe
[09:54] <reticuli> is libra water as well?
[09:55] <QueenVee> scorpio rising strengthens your earth qualities, dampens your fire qualities
[09:55] <QueenVee> libra is air
[09:55] <QueenVee> libra strengthens my fire qualities
[09:55] <reticuli> that makes sense
[09:56] <QueenVee> my second husband had sun in aries; moon in airies; and ascendent in airies....
[09:56] <reticuli> with a gemini rising and sag in both the sun and moon, the baby ought to be ...... explosive?
[09:56] <reticuli> yikes
[09:56] <QueenVee> yikes is right
[09:56] <reticuli> that sounds... difficult
[09:56] <QueenVee> brilliantly creative, but....
[09:57] <QueenVee> ret: no, not explosive
[09:57] <QueenVee> with that combo, she should be fairly balanced, though firely
[09:57] <QueenVee> firey
[09:57] <reticuli> its good she was born into our family
[09:57] <QueenVee> Gemini (air) will strengthen the fire of her sun and moon
[09:57] <reticuli> ic
[09:58] <QueenVee> you will relate best to her with the fire aspects of your chart
[09:58] <QueenVee> what are your wife's signs?
[09:58] <reticuli> she is a sah sun and ascendant and a libra moon
[09:58] <QueenVee> your daughter will find the earth and water aspects of you "a drag"....
[09:58] <reticuli> sah=sag
[09:58] <reticuli> lol
[09:59] <QueenVee> ret: wow, your wife and you are well matched
[09:59] <reticuli> we are? I dont know too much about astrology... it seems that way
[10:00] <QueenVee> you are both sag in your suns....
[10:00] <QueenVee> your wife and daughter will be like two peas in a pod, i suspect; very alike
[10:01] <reticuli> my wife and i had an 'arranged marriage' ;)
[10:01] <QueenVee> those who share the same sun tend to feel very close, kind of like brother and sister
[10:01] <reticuli> yes, thats true
[10:02] <QueenVee> i had a long-term boyfriend that i remain friends with to this day, also a Leo, and we used to call each other "brother" and "sister"....
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[10:02] <QueenVee> hey tex
[10:02] <reticuli> :)
[10:02] <QueenVee> we're discussing astrological signs
[10:02] <tex-at-work> hey QV
[10:02] <QueenVee> what is yours, tex?
[10:02] <QueenVee> you strike me as an earth sign
[10:02] <tex-at-work> Scorpio
[10:02] <reticuli> I had a long term girlfriend who was a leo
[10:02] <QueenVee> yikes!
[10:03] <tex-at-work> cusp of Libra
[10:03] <QueenVee> do you know your moon and ascendent?
[10:03] <QueenVee> oh, okay, that helps
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[10:04] <reticuli> the leo relationship ended badly, she lost face
[10:04] <QueenVee> ret: there's a truism that you tend to be closer to your sun-sign nature in your youth, and closer to your moon-sign nature when you get older....
[10:04] <QueenVee> ret: a leo can't stand to lose face
[10:04] <QueenVee> too much pride
[10:04] <reticuli> yeah, I discovered that
[10:04] <reticuli> hehe
[10:05] <reticuli> queen I am unfortunately much more like a capricorn now was I have gotten older.
[10:05] <QueenVee> as befits your new role of father
[10:06] <reticuli> yeah, thats true, capricorns just bug me
[10:06] <QueenVee> my mother is a double Taurus (moon and sun), and we were like oil and water when i was younger; but my Taurus moon seems to connect to her better now....
[10:06] <obaway> well i am pisces, but don't know my ascendant, as then you have to know the time of brith ... and it doesn't inerrest that much either
[10:07] <QueenVee> my first husband was a taurus.... and that didn't last....
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[10:08] <QueenVee> hello reti
[10:08] <QueenVee> oh, that's you, reticuli
[10:08] <QueenVee> why are you on twice?
[10:08] <reti> hey, dont no what happenned, that my backup name
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[10:09] <QueenVee> lol
[10:09] <reti> weird
[10:09] <QueenVee> it's your evil twin
[10:10] <reti> ssshhhhh
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[10:10] <reti> by reticuli
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[10:12] <reticuli> ok, thats better
[10:12] <reticuli> queen, did u find a new dog?
[10:14] <QueenVee> ret: yes, i have!
[10:14] <QueenVee> i'm going to pick him up in toronto this weekend
[10:14] <QueenVee> he's a 3 year old beagle named Harry
[10:15] <reticuli> congratulations :)
[10:15] <reticuli> it seems like there is a lot of beagles around
[10:15] <QueenVee> well, i had a beagle when i was young, so i'm quite partial to be breed
[10:15] <reticuli> where did you find him?
[10:16] <QueenVee> he's a perfect match for me, because he's small enough to suite my current living situation, but will also be useful in the aftertime, as beagles are great hunting dogs, trackers, etc.
[10:16] <QueenVee> an organization in Toronto called ADOPT A DOG - SAFE A LIFE
[10:16] <reticuli> yes, thats true
[10:17] <QueenVee> my childhood beagle, Sam, was quite the dog; in those days the dogs just roamed the neighbourhood, no leash laws. he used to walk me to school everyday and be waiting outside the school gate after school -- what he got up to in between we had no idea.....
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[10:20] <reti> what!!!
[10:20] <QueenVee> you again!
[10:20] <reti> I've come to take back my wayward twin
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[10:20] <QueenVee> that's so weird....
[10:21] <reti> i keep getting disconnected, something is going on in the network
[10:22] <QueenVee> mmmm
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[10:38] <QueenVee> hey tex
[10:38] <QueenVee> how's work going?
[10:38] <tex-at-work> just wonderful
[10:38] <tex-at-work> not much going on here today
[10:39] <tex-at-work> have you decided what your doing about Saturday yet
[10:39] <QueenVee> nope, gotta talk to my cousin when she gets home later
[10:39] <QueenVee> there's a possibility she might not mind going later in the day....
[10:39] <QueenVee> but she's doing me a big favour, so i don't want to have to inconvenience her anymore than i have to
[10:40] <QueenVee> do you have any opinion about what i should do?
[10:40] <tex-at-work> indeed
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[10:45] <QueenVee> hello Aaaaa
[10:45] <Aaaaa> hi
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[10:46] <QueenVee> hello woodoo -- what brings you to this room?
[10:47] <QueenVee> hiya Humor -- how goes it?
[10:47] <woodoo_18> ý came myself
[10:47] <woodoo_18> y did u ask
[10:47] <QueenVee> woodoo: being a smart ass won't get you far here
[10:47] <Humor> It goes good...good to see ya Queen....interesting news you posted on sink holes.
[10:48] <QueenVee> yeah, i thought so....
[10:48] <QueenVee> woodoo: please note:
[10:48] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[10:48] <QueenVee> Humor: yes, i'm watching out for signs of
[10:48] <QueenVee> of "implosions"...
[10:48] <QueenVee> which, according to ZT should start to happen soon....
[10:49] <Humor> Good point to watch.
[10:49] <QueenVee> woodoo: i'll ask again: What brings you to this room?
[10:49] <Aaaaa> QV: anything special planned for sats chat with Nancy?
[10:49] <Humor> Constant shifting
[10:49] <woodoo_18> ý came by chance
[10:49] <QueenVee> Aaaaa: well, actually, i am probably going to cancel it, as i can't be here
[10:49] <woodoo_18> y did u ask this
[10:49] <QueenVee> woodoo: by chance?
[10:49] <Aaaaa> noooooo!!!!
[10:49] <QueenVee> what does that mean?
[10:49] <woodoo_18> yes
[10:50] <woodoo_18> dont u know
[10:50] <woodoo_18> ??
[10:50] <QueenVee> woodoo: wrong answer. i suggest you check out #earthchanges
[10:50] <QueenVee> ok?
[10:50] <QueenVee> Aaaaa: well, this saturday is the only day that my cousin can drive me to toronto to pick up my new dog....
[10:50] <woodoo_18> ý have already checked it
[10:50] <QueenVee> bye woodoo
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[10:51] <Humor> Do you have a name for your new dog, Queen?
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[10:51] <woodoo_18> ý came
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[10:51] <QueenVee> Humor: he already has a name, and a good one: HARRY
[10:52] <QueenVee> it would have been awful if he already had one of those "cute" dog names, like CUDDLES or something....
[10:52] <QueenVee> i'd just have to rename him
[10:52] <QueenVee> but HARRY is the kind of name i would give a dog
[10:53] <Humor> I hope Harry has a good trip and will find out he has a good home with Queen
[10:53] <QueenVee> though i might change it to HENRY....
[10:53] <Aaaaa> I once aquired adog named "Precious"...renamed her"Breakfast"
[10:53] <QueenVee> LOL -- VERY GOOD
[10:54] <QueenVee> yeah, if i had a dog named CUDDLES, i'd probably call her MUDDLES
[10:54] <Aaaaa> as long as they respond
[10:54] <QueenVee> yeah, as long as it has the same general sound
[10:54] <QueenVee> my dog Ben was named "Benji" when i got him -- which i quickly shorted to Ben....
[10:55] <QueenVee> i called him Ben-Ben most of the time
[10:55] <Aaaaa> dont really think human names are for animals
[10:56] <QueenVee> i feel the opposite, i feel they should have dignified names
[10:56] <QueenVee> not fru-fru names
[10:56] <Aaaaa> ok
[10:56] <QueenVee> or pretentious names
[10:56] <QueenVee> i knew this guy in my neighbourhood who named his three dogs after famous poets -- Pul-eeze!
[10:57] <QueenVee> it's a dog!
[10:57] <Aaaaa> I once had a german shep that cost so much my mom named him "Cash"
[10:57] <QueenVee> Cash is a good name
[10:57] <QueenVee> a friend of mine named his dog DUFUS -- and it really suited the dog....
[10:57] <Aaaaa> :)
[10:58] <tied2> lol
[10:58] <Humor> Cash would be a good name for a guard dog...where the buck stops here! lol
[10:58] <QueenVee> yes
[10:58] <tied2> I have a friend who lives on cash court
[10:59] <Aaaaa> sometimes you gotta get to know the animal before it earns its name
[10:59] <tied2> I need to look him up!
[10:59] <Humor> Lives on Cash court, we must Check it out!
[10:59] <tied2> ha
[11:00] <QueenVee> Aaaaa: well, i find animals tend to pick up a lot of secondary nicknames as time goes on....
[11:00] <Aaaaa> yup
[11:00] <Aaaaa> kinda like humans
[11:00] <QueenVee> my dog Ben had a wide variety: Ben-Ben, Benjamin, Benjamino, Bensky, Benster....
[11:05] <Aaaaa> Whoa! Wind really picking up! Gotta go check the lines tying down my survival ship. Back in a bit.
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[11:21] <RNTHOMAS> So what's new today?
[11:22] <RNTHOMAS> Gues the poleshift happened, and everyones gone...
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[11:36] <RNTHOMAS> Hey darkstar, how goes it!
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[11:47] <RNTHOMAS> I'm confused, anyone into solving puzzles?
[11:48] <RNTHOMAS> The Topic: Astrophysics...
[11:48] <RNTHOMAS> Or simply gravity...
[11:48] <RNTHOMAS> I'm soooo lost on this one...
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[11:51] <RNTHOMAS> Hey OB, are you up to helpin a horribly confused person over here?
[11:51] <obany> and who is the confused one?
[11:51] <RNTHOMAS> I am...
[11:51] <obany> about what?
[11:51] <RNTHOMAS> Simply physics.... Astrophysics...
[11:52] <obany> mmmm, mmm not familair with that ...
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[11:52] <RNTHOMAS> Check this out... here is a few snipits, but i'll follow with the link to the entire article...
[11:52] <RNTHOMAS> Loinard said that as Tauri Sb approached its brothers, it was moving at about 22,300 miles an hour. The slingshot effect pushed that speed to about 44,000 mph, relative to the other stars in the group.
[11:52] <RNTHOMAS> .
[11:52] <RNTHOMAS> . stuff deleted
[11:52] <RNTHOMAS> .
[11:52] <miguel> hello
[11:53] <RNTHOMAS> But Loinard said the small star may have captured enough velocity from the celestial slingshot to escape the group altogether and is fated to wander through space alone.
[11:53] <RNTHOMAS> Hello miguel...
[11:53] <miguel> hello RNT
[11:53] <RNTHOMAS> Now heres the link to the entire article...
[11:53] <RNTHOMAS> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/space/1729539
[11:54] <RNTHOMAS> How in god green earth does a star (that grew in that star cluster).
[11:54] <RNTHOMAS> All of a sudden, by simply slingshoting around another star gain enough energy to
[11:55] <RNTHOMAS> escape the star system. Duuu... Does that not sound like a serious increase in energy here?
[11:55] <RNTHOMAS> It didn't have enough escape velocity before... Why would they even ENTERTAIN the idea of it having escape velocity now...
[11:56] <RNTHOMAS> That goes totally against my knowledge of how Gravity works...
[11:56] <RNTHOMAS> Slingshots only CHANGE YOUR DIRECTION according to standard gavitiational theory...
[11:56] <RNTHOMAS> Duuu.... I'm very confused....
[11:57] <RNTHOMAS> Yes, a temporary increase of energy as it passes close to the other star...
[11:58] <RNTHOMAS> But it was in the gravitational field, since it was ceated, orbiting around the star cluster... That to me indicates it didn't have the
[11:58] <RNTHOMAS> needed momentum to attain escape velocity...
[11:59] <RNTHOMAS> How can Loinard say that it's 'gained' energy...
[12:00] <RNTHOMAS> This almost makes Nancy description of Gravity Particles PUSHING larger bodies away, seem like truth...
[12:01] <RNTHOMAS> Particles shoot up so fast, that they pass right through small bodies... But large bodies like another star are also shooting gravity particles out.
[12:02] <Aaaaa> slingshots would be good for the aftertime....can push large obnoxious bodies away :)
[12:02] <RNTHOMAS> Dunno...
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[12:02] <QueenVee> hello Miguel
[12:02] <RNTHOMAS> Doesn't work for smaller bodies like asteroids...
[12:02] <miguel> hello queen
[12:02] <miguel> how are you doing?
[12:02] <QueenVee> not too bad...
[12:03] <RNTHOMAS> Maybe I scared OB away... QV, check out what I wrote...
[12:03] <RNTHOMAS> I'm confused...
[12:03] <miguel> i was on the run
[12:03] <QueenVee> oh, darn, unfortunately i have to get the phone, brb....
[12:03] <miguel> visiting parents, family, friends, etc.
[12:06] <RNTHOMAS> NancyL talks of large bodies being repelled against on another...
[12:06] <RNTHOMAS> she mentions Gravity Particles, shooting out from large bodies like the earth...
[12:07] <RNTHOMAS> They shoot up too fast to effect smaller bodies like asteroids, people, etc...
[12:07] <RNTHOMAS> But when you have two larger bodies, two planets...
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[12:07] <RNTHOMAS> They particles shooting up, interact with each other pushing them apart...
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[12:09] <RNTHOMAS> After the gravity particles shoot up, they slowly drift back down, and that is where we feel 'gravity'.
[12:10] <RNTHOMAS> It also explains HOW: a star could gain energy by slingshoting around another star...
[12:11] <RNTHOMAS> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/space/1729539
[12:11] <RNTHOMAS> Classical views of gravity doesn't explain this story...
[12:12] <RNTHOMAS> So I was just wondering if anyone else can make sence of this?
[12:17] <miguel> #join shift2003
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[12:25] <QueenVee> hello asd -- what brings you to this room?
[12:27] <QueenVee> asd: ARE YOU THERE?
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[12:27] <DarKStaR> lol
[12:27] <DarKStaR> salut queen
[12:28] <QueenVee> hello darkstar
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[12:51] <Dsarith> Hi from Texas
[12:52] <tex-at-work> hey Dsarith
[12:52] <tex-at-work> my computer at home is on autopilot I see
[12:52] <Dsarith> Why do you have From-Texas
[12:52] <Dsarith> ??
[12:52] <Dsarith> :)
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[12:53] <tex-at-work> it was setting on tex-away and ping timed out then auto logged back on
[12:53] <Dsarith> Oh :)
[12:53] <Dsarith> HI Tied2, you got your box back up
[12:53] <tied2> nooooo
[12:53] <Dsarith> Oh, I am sorry
[12:53] <tied2> lol yeah me too
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[13:05] <hysterix> hows everyone doin today?
[13:05] <hysterix> hey QV
[13:06] <hysterix> ???
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[13:09] <hysterix> Once again how is everybody doin today?
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[13:12] <QueenVee> hello all
[13:12] <hysterix> Hey QV how ya doin today?
[13:13] <QueenVee> i'm good, a little frazzled....
[13:13] <hysterix> whats up?
[13:13] <QueenVee> obany: come back!
[13:13] <QueenVee> obany, i'm just leaving and need to tell you something
[13:13] <hysterix> BTW, did you get your beagel?
[13:13] <QueenVee> well, that's why i'm frazzled; sudden change of plans.....
[13:13] <QueenVee> we were supposed to go and get him this weekend....
[13:14] <QueenVee> but nw we're driving to toronto this evening to get hiim....
[13:14] <QueenVee> so you guys are on your own this evening!
[13:14] <hysterix> well, I hope he's the cute'st dog you've ever seen!
[13:15] <QueenVee> well, every beagle i've ever seen is the cutest dog i've ever seen
[13:15] <QueenVee> :-)
[13:15] <hysterix> yup, beagle's are cool, but I'm a German Shepard type of guy
[13:16] <QueenVee> well, i love almost every kind of breed -- i knew a lovely German shepherd named Diana once....
[13:16] <QueenVee> the only dogs i'm not drawn to are those little pseudo dogs, the "toy" breeds
[13:16] <QueenVee> they're not dogs, they're not cats, i don't know what they are
[13:17] <hysterix> yes, I don't like those either
[13:17] <QueenVee> i like a dog that's actually been bred for a purpose, a working dog
[13:17] <QueenVee> beagles and cockers are great hunters
[13:17] <hysterix> shepards are guard dog's...
[13:17] <QueenVee> yes, but they're very sweet as pets too
[13:17] <QueenVee> very protective
[13:18] <QueenVee> i love big dogs -- retreivers, labs, etc. -- but don't have the room
[13:18] <QueenVee> anyway, i've got to go now
[13:18] <hysterix> I love golden retreivers, they have to be one of the best dogs in the world
[13:19] <hysterix> alright see ya later QV
[13:19] <QueenVee> take care, maybe see you later tonight
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[13:29] <obany> wow quiet here
[13:29] <Dsarith> Yes, yes it is :)
[13:29] <Dsarith> Same in TT
[13:29] <RNTHOMAS> Nobody wants to help me figure out my wacked out mystery...
[13:30] <RNTHOMAS> :(
[13:30] <Dsarith> I will
[13:30] <Dsarith> What is the mystery
[13:30] <Dsarith> Synopsis
[13:30] <RNTHOMAS> well, I posted it aleady here...
[13:30] * Dsarith puts his inspector hat on and pulls out his magnifying glass
[13:31] <RNTHOMAS> It's about a star cluster... One start (smaller one) simply
[13:31] <RNTHOMAS> slingshots around another star in the same star cluster...
[13:32] <Dsarith> Do you have a link?
[13:32] <RNTHOMAS> And low and behold it gains tonnes of energy, and all of a sudden may have escape velocity to leave the star cluster where it was born..
[13:33] <RNTHOMAS> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/space/1729539
[13:34] <RNTHOMAS> I'm pretty stupid when it comes to gravity... Slingshot from a gravitational sence usually means to change direction...
[13:34] <RNTHOMAS> Not gain escape velocity..
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[13:34] <obany> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-forum/message/6861
[13:35] <Dsarith> I am not able to get there :(
[13:35] <Dsarith> Thanks Obany
[13:37] <RNTHOMAS> Wierd... I can... But obany's link, quite interesting as well, is not what I was pointing to...
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[13:38] <obany> i know i know, it was just a mention of something .. and i thought you guys might find it interresting
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[13:38] <RNTHOMAS> It is...
[13:39] <RNTHOMAS> Here is some of the text...
[13:39] <obany> then this line
[13:39] <RNTHOMAS> Tauri Sb was the smallest in the family with a mass of about 20 percent of the sun. Since it was ejected, said Loinard, it is unlikely to grow larger.
[13:39] <RNTHOMAS> Using radio telescope observations starting in 1983, Loinard and his group plotted the path of Tauri Sb as it moved north and then curved south, heading almost directly for the binary stars of Tauri Sa.
[13:39] <RNTHOMAS> In 1995, Tauri Sb passed within about 200 million miles of the binary, which has a total mass of about twice the sun. The gravitational effect of the
[13:40] <RNTHOMAS> sun. The gravitational effect of the close pass acted on Tauri Sb like a slingshot, sending the small star streaking out in another direction at twice its earlier speed.
[13:40] <RNTHOMAS> Loinard said that as Tauri Sb approached its brothers, it was moving at about 22,300 miles an hour. The slingshot effect pushed that speed to about 44,000 mph, relative to the other stars in the group.
[13:40] <RNTHOMAS> Twice it's earlier speed!???
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[13:41] <RNTHOMAS> This makes rnthomas confused...
[13:41] <Dsarith> Its like when you go around a curve, centrifical force is what is acted upon you. When you go into a curve you are pulled into the curve and speed up
[13:42] <RNTHOMAS> Yes, correct...
[13:42] <RNTHOMAS> But this star now as escape velocity... It didn't have this before...
[13:42] <Dsarith> In fact if you are driving the worst thing you can do is to slow down. Speeding up will help control the vehicle in a curve
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[13:43] <JKSuave> Hi JKSuave what brings you here
[13:43] <Dsarith> A phycist could tell you why exactly the slingshot effect increases speed. Force X Density etc.
[13:43] <Dsarith> Hi JkSuave what brings you here
[13:44] <JKSuave> Nancy
[13:44] <JKSuave> shes hot
[13:44] <Dsarith> Obany...
[13:45] <RNTHOMAS> I understand the slingshot effect speeding the star up while it's close in...
[13:45] <JKSuave> god
[13:45] <JKSuave> you guys are fucking ban upsessed
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[13:45] <Dsarith> Thank you Obany :)
[13:46] <RNTHOMAS> But the star was simply in or (thanks ob) orbit...
[13:46] <RNTHOMAS> then swings in close, and now has escape velocity and is being 'ejected'?
[13:46] <RNTHOMAS> It's like the moon in orbit around the earth, then it heads directly at the sun...
[13:47] <Dsarith> It may be the gravitational pull/push on the star as it swings in
[13:47] <RNTHOMAS> Slingshows, and now all of a sudden it has escape velocity to leave the solar system...
[13:47] <obany> !ban *!*@sc-66-27-177-242.socal.rr.com
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[13:48] <Dsarith> It must be the closeness effect, but I am not real sure
[13:48] <RNTHOMAS> This 'closeness' effect, proves what NancyL said on art bell about gravity particles...
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[13:49] <RNTHOMAS> Two large objects, in close proximity, both emitting large amounts of Gravity particles...
[13:49] <Dsarith> I am not sure on any of this because I am not an astro physist
[13:50] <RNTHOMAS> Neither am I...
[13:50] <RNTHOMAS> But I did take a pile of courses in Gravity...
[13:50] <RNTHOMAS> aka Physics...
[13:50] <Dsarith> and
[13:50] <Dsarith> What do they generally say?
[13:50] <RNTHOMAS> That's not what I was taught...
[13:50] <Dsarith> What were you taught?
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[13:51] <obany> hello Carla
[13:51] <RNTHOMAS> The calculation would be... that the amount of Kinetic Energy + Potential Energy is constant...
[13:51] <RNTHOMAS> Hello Carla...
[13:52] <Dsarith> Hi Carla
[13:52] <obany> is this the first time that you join here carla?
[13:52] <Carla> Hello! I am a new member at this chat.
[13:52] <RNTHOMAS> As the star approaches the larger star, kinetic energy would increase and potential energy would drop to almost zero as it slingshots...
[13:53] <Dsarith> True
[13:53] <obany> and Carla you read about the pole shift and what will occur?
[13:53] <Dsarith> I understand that
[13:53] <RNTHOMAS> Once it makes its way out, kinetic would drop, and potential energy would increase...
[13:53] <obany> guys don't turn this into #astronomy please.. .. :P
[13:53] <RNTHOMAS> But not to the point where the star has escape velocity...
[13:53] <Dsarith> Sorry Obany
[13:54] <Dsarith> :)
[13:54] <RNTHOMAS> Sorry...
[13:54] <Dsarith> I am not sure either way RNT... Just call me Clueless
[13:54] <tied2> hi carla
[13:54] <obany> it's not a problem .... :) but i doubt that Carla joined in for some astronomy chatter
[13:55] <RNTHOMAS> Dsarith - I am also in #Earthchanges in case you wanna continue this there..
[13:56] <Carla> I have been reading on Samsara. Otherwise I have been listening to a friend who know a lot, and I think it is very interesting and exiting.
[13:59] <Carla> My brother also read a lot of articles on the net and about a new dimension. I am not english-speaking, so excuse my slow or bad language.
[13:59] <tenshu`Zz> the 4th density?
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[14:00] <Danvaldan> hi all!
[14:00] <Dsarith> Hi Danvaldan
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[14:02] <Danvaldan> I noticed there is an eclipse on May 15 - wondering if this has anything to do with that dat being picked for the shift.
[14:02] <Carla> I am not an expert in this, but I have noticed that there is a lot of movements in the sky at night, and I think there are "people" from other planets who are watching us.
[14:03] <Danvaldan> I saw a HUGE falling star last night - its tail was clearly green
[14:03] <obany> Danvalan: well it's not the exact date of the pole shift, will be little short after the 15th or around May 15
[14:03] <tied2> wow
[14:03] <Danvaldan> theres also an eclipse at the end of the month - two in one month -
[14:03] <obany> but yes i read that too .. about that may 15th date
[14:04] <Danvaldan> That last ZT degenerated into a free-for-all
[14:05] <Danvaldan> I want to get all the riff-raff away from Nancy so she can anwser more reasonable or sincere guestions
[14:05] <obany> I understand .. that Danvalan
[14:06] <obany> but last time was a little .. well ...
[14:06] <obany> i usualy kick and ban if nessacery
[14:06] <Danvaldan> do you know if there has been any radio telescope or radio signals picked up from px?
[14:07] <tied2> why was last ZT differant?
[14:07] <Danvaldan> is a radio telescope a HUGE expense? is there such thing as an ametuer radio telescope?
[14:07] <obany> i doubt so
[14:08] <Danvaldan> probly SETI is watching px-tv right now
[14:08] <Carla> actually I want to tell about my 9 year old sons dream last night. He dreamed that a stone was falling on our house, the house broke into two, our country broke into two, Europe broke into two, and the hole world broke into two. Half of the world disapeared into a hole, and the other half kept on . I have not spoken to him about Nibiru or anythink likely.
[14:09] <Danvaldan> whoah...
[14:09] <tied2> wow
[14:09] <Dsarith> Wow
[14:10] <tenshu> sounds liek what kinda happend to maldek
[14:10] <obany> Interresting dream
[14:10] <Danvaldan> maldek?
[14:10] <tenshu> yep
[14:10] <Danvaldan> I dont know what that is?
[14:10] <obany> danvalen did you read this http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-forum/message/6861
[14:10] <obany> Tiamat
[14:10] <tenshu> yea aka tiamat
[14:11] <Danvaldan> ah - I have read Sticin on this - I will look -
[14:11] <Carla> I am very exited and I am going to be prepared. What happened to maldek?
[14:12] <obany> even zetatalk says it, the earth was larger, a water planet ... then a moon of Planet X crashed on it ... but this happpend well a long long long loooong time ago
[14:12] <obany> there won't be a crash now of a moon or so
[14:12] <tenshu> basically what's going on in earth but there were more.. "forces" involved.
[14:12] <tenshu> an event occured, blowing off a piece of maldek that formed earth
[14:13] <Danvaldan> there is a report of a 'planet' hitting the sun recently -
[14:13] <tenshu> the other part blew up into the asteroid belt
[14:13] <Danvaldan> http://wrightworld.net/poleshiftnews.htm#A large asteroid or small planet hitting the sun
[14:14] <Carla> I am glad I have been reading in the Bible before this. So what do you think about for ex. Luke 21:25-36?
[14:14] <Danvaldan> gotta go guys -
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[14:17] <obany> Carla: speaks about what will come yes
[14:22] <obany> the same as with Revelations
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[14:22] <obany> hi
[14:22] <Carla> Do you think the Ananukis are able to control the way of the planet?
[14:22] <Charger> hey :)
[14:23] <obany> Carla: i don't think so
[14:24] <Carla> I don't know, but some say so, and think they will avoid a crash. But they are coming here by spacecrafts, to teach us.
[14:25] <obany> Carla: they won't return ... maybe some say so but they won't. Neither is Nibiru a spaceship or so from the 9th density ..
[14:28] <Charger> you sound so definate ob ...
[14:28] <obany> Charger: what do you mean ?
[14:28] <Carla> I don't mean Nibiru is a spaceship, but they travel from their planet Nibiru with spaceships until our planet. Some says that the Ananukis can control the moves of theyr planet.
[14:29] <obany> they used to come here .. but not anymore .. .. And i doubt that the orbit of a planet can be controlled
[14:30] <obany> Charger?
[14:31] <Charger> lol
[14:31] <Charger> back
[14:31] <Charger> sorry just burnt dinner :)
[14:31] <Dsarith> Hate that!
[14:31] <Charger> no, just meant how you know that they wont come back to teach us?
[14:32] <Carla> obany: do you mean when they were here 3600 years ago?
[14:33] <tenshu> at a point, they weren't here to "teach us".. they enslaved the human race
[14:35] <Carla> Ok, tenshu, I see, do you think they still are hostile?
[14:35] <tenshu> i've heard they changed
[14:35] <Carla> Me too.
[14:36] <Carla> So maybe they'll be back to do good for us this time?
[14:37] <tenshu> they won't. they are still in their time of evolution
[14:38] <obany> carla no no
[14:38] <obany> when earth will enter 4th density, Nibiru will still be in 3
[14:38] <tenshu> exactly
[14:39] <obany> so in a matter of speaking we are ahead of them
[14:40] <Carla> I see, but isn't it so that the time of the contact with Nibiru in May we are entering the 4th density? Or am I totally disoriented?
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[14:42] <obany> Carla: it will take some time before the earth will enter 4th density .. some 100 years ..
[14:45] <Carla> Do you really think so? I have been reading that mankind will reach into a new understanding, another kind of consiousness, which is another dimension.
[14:46] <tenshu> carla do you read the pleiadians?
[14:47] <Carla> No I'm sorry, but my brother told me about it.
[14:48] <tenshu> ah ok
[14:49] <obany> there is a transformation going on ... you could take a look over here http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t30.htm and http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d00.htm
[14:50] <obany> earth will be a home for those who are Service to Others Carla
[14:51] <Carla> Ok, thanks for the addresses.
[14:53] <RNTHOMAS> tenshu - where the a link to pleiadians?
[14:54] <tenshu> i haven't found a site that much about them, i read them in books
[14:55] <Carla> I beleive if there will be a reunion with our creator, and we all should service one another, and love our enemies.....and it will be glorious no matter when it will happen, but I think it's about time:-)
[14:56] <RNTHOMAS> what books? contact, phoenix?
[14:56] <tenshu> Pleiadian Workbook
[14:56] <Carla> Not if
[14:56] <tenshu> is an example
[14:57] * obany brb
[14:57] <tenshu> Pleiadian Perspectives on Human Evolution
[14:58] <tenshu> i've been more with the pleiadians than zetas.. both have their good points
[15:00] <Carla> So Charger, how was your dinner? Was it the onions wich burnt?
[15:01] <Charger> no onions in it :P
[15:01] <Charger> no i just cooked the rice a little too long
[15:01] <Charger> most of it was ok, the pan is gonna take a while to scrub tho :)
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[15:02] <Carla> It's awful to scrub those rise-kettles!
[15:05] <Carla> Do you think we have visitors here Charger?
[15:06] <Charger> i'm sure they're probably close by, if not here, yes
[15:08] * obany sets mode: +s
[15:09] <Carla> Sometimes when I walk in the city, somewhere, I think I see visitors everywere! They transform into humans! And I think some given moments are to enable us to be wiser!
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[15:14] <obany> don't thin there are aliens walking among us, starchildren yes, people with a soul from a higher density, and walk-ins yes.. but aliens disguised as humans no
[15:18] <Carla> Ok obany, I think we have visitors, but it don't matter, maybe it's just to make my day interesting.
[15:20] <obany> don't misunderstand me i do believe earth is visited by aliens ..
[15:21] <Carla> obany: Have you seen all those crop circles? Don't you think there are spaceships who are creating those, by electro-magnetic radiance?
[15:21] <obany> i believe crop circles are made by aliens yes
[15:22] <Carla> Why don't you think they want to visit us on the ground?
[15:23] <juditness> obany: you can -s now
[15:23] * obany sets mode: -s
[15:26] <Carla> Maybe I am talking about the wrong subject, sorry, I think I'll go to bed, good night! Could somebody tell me how to get out of here?
[15:27] <tenshu> just click the X :)
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[15:28] <obany> mmm little to late wanted to say something to her
[15:28] <Charger> brb, gotta make a phone call
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[15:30] <yggdrasil> whos fro mthe island?
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[15:35] <ojabun> ah
[15:36] <ojabun> how many channels are there about coming changes?
[15:36] <ojabun> and they all on -funnet?
[15:37] <johnigga> idk..
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[15:42] <inkpen> hello
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[15:44] <inkpen> hello tex
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[15:44] <inkpen> wb yggdrasil
[15:44] <from_Texas> hey ink
[15:44] <from_Texas> you have MIA
[15:44] <yggdrasil> thanko
[15:45] <inkpen> MIA?
[15:45] <from_Texas> missing in action
[15:46] <inkpen> LOL
[15:47] <inkpen> for 2 days my computer was telling me it couldnt write to c drive...but i think i fixed it as i am here now
[15:47] <from_Texas> and don't give that excuse about your computer difficulties
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[15:48] <inkpen> when all else fails try fiddling with ide wires :)
[15:49] <from_Texas> lol true
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[15:51] <inkpen> whats new today?
[15:52] <from_Texas> nothing much here
[15:54] <inkpen> ive been camping out in the yard the last couple nites... testing some of my new gear for my journey
[15:54] <from_Texas> vg
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[15:57] <inkpen> hello tenshu
[15:57] <tenshu> hey
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[16:01] <ojabun> i think i might as well dy than hide in mountains if earth stops spinning
[16:01] <Ogmios> hi
[16:02] <inkpen> HELLO
[16:02] <obany> hi ogmios
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[16:04] <obany> brb
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[16:12] <inkpen> HELLO
[16:13] <PGill> hi
[16:16] <obany> how ya doing ogmios
[16:16] <obany> hi pgill
[16:16] <PGill> hi, so anything new around here?
[16:17] <obany> not much not much .. you might could check www.shift2003.com and did you saw the logs of the saturday sessions yet?
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[16:19] <PGill> yes, i was at that one
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[16:20] <Charger> :)
[16:20] <obany> k
[16:25] * juditness is away.. sheesh this was EXHAUSTING =/ [mail: judit@geekychick.org] at 01:26:48
[16:28] * obany will go now
[16:30] <obany> bye bye
[16:30] <from_Texas> bye obany
[16:32] * obany has quit IRC (bye goodnight take care sleep well welterusten )
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[16:36] <Charger> so who wrote the zt website?
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[16:38] <Iskatel> Hello to all
[16:38] <inkpen> HELLO
[16:39] <Iskatel> I were read interesting news today about some comet, i think it's about Nibiru
[16:39] <Charger> hi
[16:39] <Charger> v.colorful inkpen :)
[16:39] <Iskatel> But they call it as 2002X5
[16:39] <Iskatel> http://cobr.kts.ru/astron/orbits/c2002x5.htm
[16:40] <Iskatel> It's have the some eclyptic as Nibiru, are it's can be Nibiru, can someone look at this ?
[16:41] <Charger> loading it at the moment
[16:41] <Iskatel> Ok
[16:41] <Charger> but i'm no expert am afraid
[16:41] <Iskatel> It's Ok :-)
[16:41] <Iskatel> me too
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[16:45] <Iskatel> What do you think Charger ?
[16:45] <Iskatel> oh, he seems away
[16:45] <Iskatel> :-(
[16:45] <Iskatel> Hey Inkpen did you saw it ?
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[16:46] <Iskatel> And he is away too
[16:46] <Iskatel> ok.. bye to all
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[16:46] <Iskatel> I recommended to all guys to see it --> http://cobr.kts.ru/astron/orbits/c2002x5.htm
[16:46] <Iskatel> bye..bye
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[16:51] <Charger> hmm, that's the problem with this computer :(
[16:51] <Charger> can't handle lots of websites, just crashes out :((
[16:52] <Charger> so how safe will it be to relocate by aircraft nearer the time do you think?
[16:55] <scooby-atwork> why do you think that will be a good place to be?
[16:57] <Charger> in an aircraft :P ?
[16:57] <Charger> probably not
[16:57] <Charger> no but there seem far more crashes recently
[16:57] <scooby-atwork> yeah, prolly not
[16:58] <scooby-atwork> : )
[16:58] <Charger> could they be caused by computer error because of rotation of earth?
[16:58] <Charger> and if so, would it be a good idea to relocate by air...
[16:58] <Charger> or stay on ground
[17:00] <tenshu`afk> what's Iskatel's site about?
[17:01] <walt> a comet
[17:01] <tenshu`afk> i figured that
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[17:07] <Charger> looked to be on the right orbit for px tho
[17:07] <Charger> couldn't adjust the dateline tho, my machine crashed when i pushed the button
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[17:09] <Charger> so zt teaches us the bible was given by aliens right?
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[17:09] <PGill> i dont think they say that....
[17:10] <scooby-atwork> where does it say that charger?
[17:10] <tenshu> some stories in there are alien-related, given human form
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[17:13] <Charger> some website i looked at
[17:13] <Charger> other theories maybe, maybe i'm getting confused
[17:14] <Charger> ah i know which site
[17:15] <Charger> was www.samsara2003.com
[17:28] <scooby-atwork> *yawn*
[17:29] <GalacticExplorer> scooby tell us something interesting from your work ...
[17:29] <GalacticExplorer> please
[17:29] <scooby-atwork> oh gawd
[17:29] <scooby-atwork> people have no idea how to use their computers
[17:30] <scooby-atwork> if you ever install Kazaa, beware of new.net
[17:30] <scooby-atwork> and never install Zone Alarm
[17:30] <GalacticExplorer> installed kazaa
[17:30] <scooby-atwork> and Norton antivirus sux
[17:30] <scooby-atwork> lol
[17:30] <GalacticExplorer> and zonealarm
[17:30] <scooby-atwork> ROFL
[17:31] <scooby-atwork> can you still get on the internet?
[17:31] <GalacticExplorer> have norton antivirus
[17:31] <scooby-atwork> of course you can or you wouldn't be here
[17:31] <scooby-atwork> LOL
[17:31] <scooby-atwork> did you install kazaa lite?
[17:31] <scooby-atwork> or kazaa?
[17:31] <GalacticExplorer> I deleted zonealarm long time ago
[17:31] <Charger> what's kazaa?
[17:31] <scooby-atwork> file sharing P2P
[17:31] <scooby-atwork> like Napster
[17:31] <GalacticExplorer> no kazaa
[17:32] <scooby-atwork> only its not a centrally located server
[17:32] <GalacticExplorer> I don't see any problems, yet
[17:32] <scooby-atwork> kazaa, morpheus, grokster, e-donkey, limewire, gnutella, gnotella
[17:32] <scooby-atwork> etc
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[17:33] <scooby-atwork> all are cool concepts
[17:33] <scooby-atwork> but many come with unwanted 3rd party spyware
[17:33] <scooby-atwork> hi syk
[17:33] <Syk> hi
[17:33] <scooby-atwork> pretty quiet in here
[17:34] <scooby-atwork> so they were buggin me to talk about werk
[17:34] <scooby-atwork> LOL
[17:34] <GalacticExplorer> yes I know about spyware, used adware from your site by the way
[17:34] <scooby-atwork> yes, ad-aware is very good for that
[17:34] <scooby-atwork> lol, my site helped someone!
[17:34] <GalacticExplorer> imagine that!
[17:34] <scooby-atwork> heh heh
[17:35] <Charger> what's your site scoob?
[17:36] <GalacticExplorer> scooby how about another computer question for you?
[17:37] <GalacticExplorer> what you think about blackice firewall :-))
[17:37] <scooby-atwork> http://haywoodjahelpme.com
[17:37] <scooby-atwork> GE have you read thru GRC?
[17:37] <scooby-atwork> http://www.grc.com
[17:38] <scooby-atwork> he has a long diatribe about why Black Ice defender is a pretty bad firewall
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[17:38] <scooby-atwork> the only one that I have heard good review of is Tiny Personal Firewall
[17:39] <yggdrasil> i have a good one
[17:39] <yggdrasil> for 2k
[17:39] <scooby-atwork> what is it
[17:39] <yggdrasil> at guard
[17:40] <GalacticExplorer> leaktest didn't work
[17:40] <scooby-atwork> ive heard of it
[17:40] <scooby-atwork> of course, i only see the "problem cases" when they can't get on the internet
[17:41] <scooby-atwork> so that one might be a good one
[17:43] <GalacticExplorer> scooby what are you talking about?
[17:43] <scooby-atwork> firewalls
[17:44] <yggdrasil> do a search for fosi atguard
[17:44] <yggdrasil> and try it out its sweet
[17:45] <scooby-atwork> kewl
[17:45] <scooby-atwork> check this out:
[17:45] <scooby-atwork> Blair urges Bush to put Iraq war on hold
[17:45] <scooby-atwork> TONY BLAIR is urging US President George W Bush to delay any war against Iraq until the autumn to give UN weapons inspectors more time to obtain clear evidence of Saddam Hussein’s secret attempt to build up an illegal arsenal of weapons of mass destruction.
[17:45] <scooby-atwork> http://www.news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=27632003
[17:46] <scooby-atwork> hmmm...
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[17:49] <WhollyMoly> hello?
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[17:50] <scooby-atwork> bye
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[17:53] <scooby-atwork> damn
[17:53] <scooby-atwork> didn't even get to boot anyone
[17:53] <scooby-atwork> : (
[17:58] <scooby-atwork> anyone?
[17:59] <GalacticExplorer> I am testing my ports right now
[17:59] <scooby-atwork> oic
[17:59] <GalacticExplorer> nothing to do .... really
[17:59] <scooby-atwork> good site, huh?
[17:59] <GalacticExplorer> Yep. Thank you.
[18:00] <GalacticExplorer> uuu Stealth!
[18:00] <GalacticExplorer> cool
[18:01] <scooby-atwork> brb
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[18:05] <willshell> HI ZP
[18:05] <Zetapal> Hi will
[18:05] <willshell> how ya been
[18:05] <Zetapal> not bad
[18:05] <Zetapal> and you?
[18:05] <willshell> oh, same
[18:05] <willshell> watching and wondering hehe
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[18:11] <scooby-atwork> welcome
[18:11] <West_coast> hello
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[18:20] <tied2> HI willshell!
[18:20] <scooby-atwork> willshell go bye bye
[18:21] <tied2> oh
[18:21] <tied2> yeah
[18:21] <scooby-atwork> lol
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[18:40] <scooby-atwork> this room has become a pathetic shell of its former self
[18:40] <scooby-atwork> LOL
[18:40] <tenshu> lol
[18:40] <scooby-atwork> ahh life
[18:41] <dave7> Hi everyone. Can someone please tell me if i can put eucalyptus leaves in the boiler of the you beaut still link on poleshift 2003 site, and get oil dripping out??????????
[18:44] <dave7> The link = : www.moonshine-still.com
[18:45] <scooby-atwork> dunno that one dave
[18:46] <dave7> If you put corn in you get whiskey right?
[18:47] <dave7> A still is stil a still?
[18:49] <scooby-atwork> should be
[18:49] <scooby-atwork> <<<<< not a drinker
[18:49] <dave7> You mod sound tired
[18:49] <dave7> MOB
[18:51] <scooby-atwork> MOB?
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[18:54] <scooby-atwork> kewl
[18:54] <scooby-atwork> oh well
[18:54] <tex-away> i can't op you if your not authenticated
[18:55] <scooby-atwork> i should auth this nick., eh?
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[18:56] <Ixtalan> hello....
[18:57] <dave7> O.K. i leave you with this to ponder. Ego, Self-importance, Humility, Tolerance & Respect do not always harmonize well together. If the intellectual high horsers are as good as they believe they are , let them come up with a solution to the fear of scarcity(greedy) money lords and assorted hoarders and tyrant control freaks. ( feel a lot lighter now)
[18:57] <scooby-atwork> ahhhh
[18:57] <Ixtalan> money...wont be worth much anyway
[18:57] <Ixtalan> its not worth much now
[18:57] <Ixtalan> lol
[18:57] <dave7> lol
[18:58] <Ixtalan> Pork and Bean cans will be new Currancy
[18:58] <Ixtalan> and Bottle Caps'
[18:58] <dave7> Sanity & insanity will prevail
[18:58] <Ixtalan> its the way money should be....those natives had a good Idea Carving those Huge Rings of Rock...
[18:59] <dave7> Shell
[18:59] <Ixtalan> that way...no one really can be that wealthy
[18:59] <Ixtalan> or shells
[18:59] <Ixtalan> somthing you make should be of value
[18:59] <dave7> Creativity
[19:00] <Ixtalan> and time
[19:00] <Ixtalan> Patience
[19:00] <Ixtalan> that is worth more then paper
[19:00] <dave7> Time=life
[19:00] <Ixtalan> makes sense to me
[19:00] <Ixtalan> Currancy = Currant
[19:00] <dave7> Vit. c
[19:00] <Ixtalan> Current from river.....
[19:00] <Ixtalan> Flows
[19:00] <Ixtalan> life
[19:01] <dave7> Go with flow
[19:01] <Ixtalan> It will be nice not to have Ominous cult figures on the currancy
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[19:01] <Valdrix> ello yall
[19:02] <walt> Matches/candles/lighter flints/needles will be the new currency
[19:02] <dave7> Relax breath in harmony with life
[19:02] <dave7> Water world
[19:02] <walt> all those thing that are taken for granted now
[19:02] <Ixtalan> fuel
[19:03] <Ixtalan> cloth
[19:03] <Ixtalan> Running water is taken for granted
[19:03] <Ixtalan> big time
[19:03] <Ixtalan> lol
[19:03] <walt> be a lot of that
[19:03] <Valdrix> rofl.. not everywhere ixtalan
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[19:04] <dave7> Still will turn saltwater into pure
[19:04] <Ixtalan> I am using some Beer Kegs and copper tubes for my Distiller
[19:05] <Ixtalan> should be easy enough to find
[19:05] <Ixtalan> specially in Wisconsin
[19:05] <Ixtalan> Brewery in every other town
[19:06] <Ixtalan> They like their beer here
[19:06] <dave7> They reakon the internal reflex gives more pure output as it is actually destilled many times befor exit
[19:06] <dave7> REFLUX
[19:06] <Ixtalan> dave...what are you talking about?
[19:06] <dave7> REFLUX STILL
[19:07] <Ixtalan> can it be made?
[19:07] <Ixtalan> or does it have to be bought?
[19:07] <dave7> SEE link 'how to build still' at poleshift 2003 site
[19:07] <Ixtalan> oh ok..
[19:07] <Ixtalan> I will
[19:08] <dave7> VERY IMPRESSED WITH QUALITY OF INSTRUCTIONS
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[19:09] <dave7> IF your stressin out in A.T. you may use grog as crutch
[19:10] <Ixtalan> herb is a better tool
[19:10] <scooby-atwork> agreed
[19:10] <dave7> OR 'IMAGERY" (MENTAL)
[19:10] <dave7> OR GANJA
[19:10] <Ixtalan> explain....thats vague...what do you mean?
[19:11] <dave7> TRY and get off crutches as soon as possible is my advice.
[19:12] <Ixtalan> its all in how you approach it
[19:12] <dave7> MENTAL ATTITUDE
[19:12] <Ixtalan> if you know the power plants purpose....then you will know when you abuse it
[19:12] <Ixtalan> and adjust accordingly
[19:12] <Ixtalan> sometimes you need more then others
[19:13] <Ixtalan> dont forget
[19:13] <Ixtalan> we do a lot of work in Dreams
[19:13] <Ixtalan> and Herb helps us maintain our Alpha waves better
[19:13] <Ixtalan> which means that we are in longer
[19:13] <dave7> I like sage tea
[19:14] <Ixtalan> Sage is a good plany
[19:14] <Ixtalan> plant
[19:14] <dave7> PEPPERMINT TEA
[19:14] <Ixtalan> they are all good plants...
[19:14] <Ixtalan> except a very very select few
[19:14] <Ixtalan> that are not to be trifled with lightly
[19:14] <Ixtalan> at all
[19:14] <dave7> Would love to make own peppermint oil. WILL
[19:15] <Ixtalan> peppermint is a hardy plany
[19:15] <dave7> IN STILL
[19:15] <Ixtalan> you will have time to do all sorts of things
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[19:16] <dave7> GOTTA KEEP BUSY MENTALLY, but not too much.
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