Session Start: Fri Jan 10 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <Charger> damn
[00:00] <Charger> just realised i missed futurama
[00:00] <scooby-atwork> : (
[00:01] <scooby-atwork> it was cancelled b4 you could see it?
[00:01] <Charger> just finished 5mins ago :(
[00:03] <scooby-atwork> lol
[00:03] <scooby-atwork> o well
[00:04] <scooby-atwork> well, I am outta here... maybe I will see you when I get home and sign back on...
[00:04] <scooby-atwork> nite
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[00:06] * tenshu`zz sighs
[00:06] <Charger> lol
[00:12] <tenshu`zz> so what's going on? nancy did somethin bad?
[00:13] <Charger> huh?
[00:13] <Charger> what happened?
[00:13] <tenshu`zz> i dunno..
[00:13] <tenshu`zz> tryin to find out myself
[00:14] <Charger> well lemme know when you do :P
[00:14] <tenshu`zz> someone claims that nancy said a racial remark..
[00:15] <tenshu`zz> <elwood> Hello everyone.  Did anyone else catch Nancy going bat nuts on sci.astro this week?
[00:15] <tenshu`zz> where's sci.astro at?
[00:15] <Charger> newsgroup?
[00:16] <walt> Its a usernet newsgroup
[00:16] <tenshu`zz> where can i see her going "bat nuts"
[00:17] <Charger> nannar in here btw?
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[00:17] <walt> who is your ISP
[00:18] <tenshu`zz> mine?
[00:18] <tenshu`zz> insightbb
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[00:19] <Charger> damn aol
[00:20] <walt> they should have a newsgroup selection somewhere
[00:21] <tenshu> i dunno.
[00:21] <tenshu> i just don't know.
[00:22] <walt> TEN this should get you there  http://www.harley.com/usenet/
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[00:24] <walt> did that help TEN?
[00:25] <Charger> which site was it?
[00:25] <Charger> sci.alt?
[00:25] <walt> sci.astronomy
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[00:26] <Charger> thanks
[00:26] <Charger> sci.astro?
[00:26] <Charger> or sci.astronomy?
[00:27] <tenshu> where do i go once i click that link, walt?
[00:27] <walt> science
[00:28] <tenshu> then astronomy
[00:28] <tenshu> okay but it brings me to these links, that only ask me to compose messages
[00:28] <walt> yep down to astro
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[00:29] <Charger> hmm, which post is it in?
[00:29] <walt> should be a buch of postings
[00:29] <walt> zetababble I believe
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[00:31] <tenshu> nothin there
[00:31] <Charger> can't find it :(
[00:33] <walt> ought to be
[00:33] <Charger> found the posts
[00:33] <Charger> just couldnt find any racial comments in em
[00:33] <Charger> still is 8:30am here and i havent slept yet, so i mighta missed somethin
[00:33] <walt> that was done on the ZT chat
[00:34] <walt> jan 04 I believe
[00:34] * Charger is confused
[00:34] <Charger> oh wait ... it's 2003
[00:34] <Charger> ah ok
[00:34] <Charger> thinking its still like december or something
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[00:41] <tenshu> grr
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[01:29] <VB> so who's awake...?
[01:30] <rnthomas> WB were in #Earthchanges....
[01:30] <VB> ok
[01:30] <rnthomas> Discussing spirituality...
[01:30] <VB> nice
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[01:36] <IaNZ> Is anybody there?
[01:36] <tenshu`zz> yes
[01:36] <rnthomas> We're in #Earthchanges...
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[01:37] <IaNZ> What did you do today to prepare for the shift???!
[01:37] <rnthomas> Made a bit of money for supplies...
[01:38] <IaNZ> Money is handy stuff.  I have been reading frugalsquirrel... good value,,
[01:40] <IaNZ> And working on my sailboat.  Coastal travel usually comes before roads.  Sometimes easier than horses.
[01:41] <rnthomas> Hop you get to use it...
[01:41] <IaNZ> Plan to go out soon.. and do some fishing too.
[01:42] <IaNZ> Learn to use a net. Maybe can fish if we get a lot.
[01:43] <tenshu`zz> fishing is great..
[01:44] <IaNZ> Yes.. and should get better once there are a few billion less fishermen:-)
[01:45] <tenshu`zz> =P
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[01:46] <IaNZ> Himmmmmm..I think I'll go back to frugalsquirrel. Bye;-)
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[02:08] <Richard> hello
[02:08] <BoY> good mourning Richard
[02:08] <Richard> hi BoY
[02:09] <Richard> which part of globe are you in?
[02:09] <BoY> nyc
[02:09] <Richard> is that Friday morning there
[02:09] <BoY> where r thou
[02:09] <Richard> New Zealand here
[02:09] <BoY> yes friday morn
[02:09] <BoY> wow new zealand
[02:10] <Richard> its Friday night here ... just after 11pm
[02:10] <BoY> 5 am
[02:10] <Richard> you up late or early :)
[02:10] <BoY> i don't keep time
[02:10] <BoY> r u in a city there
[02:10] <BoY> or suburbs
[02:10] <Richard> outskirts of a city
[02:10] <BoY> what city is that
[02:11] <Richard> comes under rural
[02:11] <Richard> Hamilton
[02:11] <BoY> dn't know of it
[02:11] <BoY> don't
[02:11] <Richard> just over an hours drive south of Auckland
[02:12] <Richard> its a non event (Hamilton) of a city
[02:12] <BoY> is it summer there
[02:12] <Richard> yep
[02:12] <Richard> but you won't know it
[02:12] <BoY> it's gonna get down to 18 f here  cold
[02:12] <Richard> one minute cold then today buckets of rain all day
[02:12] <Richard> well its pretty humid here
[02:13] <Richard> shorts and t-shirt weather
[02:13] <BoY> humid i don't like  sleep comfort is difficult
[02:13] <Richard> snowing at your place?
[02:13] <BoY> not now but upstate it is
[02:14] <Richard> won't like to be in Russia at present with their big freeze
[02:14] <Richard> -40 in some places
[02:14] <BoY> yesterday was in 50's  nice was out walking enjoying it
[02:14] <Richard> now THAT is cold
[02:15] <Richard> what's your job?
[02:15] <BoY> unemployed
[02:15] <BoY> i buy & sell products on the side tho
[02:15] <Richard> getting a benefit?
[02:16] <BoY> no benifits...used all up
[02:16] <BoY> was lithographer
[02:16] <Richard> has congress reinstated the benefits that ended on 28th Dec yet?
[02:16] <BoY> not sure
[02:18] <BoY> what kinda job u have
[02:18] <Richard> I'm a postie (postman)
[02:18] <BoY> i left litho bussiness , to much chemicals i was surprized to see that industry is all chemicals
[02:19] <Richard> yeah chemicals figure into many things today
[02:19] <BoY> alot of solvent base in atmosphere
[02:19] <BoY> yet many co workers were in there 60's amazing
[02:19] <Richard> for a while I worked in a tanning factory where they used chemicals in treating the hides
[02:19] <BoY> they lived
[02:20] <Richard> made my arms itch
[02:20] <Richard> so didn't stay there long
[02:21] <Richard> are you preparing for the coming shift?
[02:21] <Richard> or still undecided?
[02:21] <BoY> so far only in my thoughts
[02:21] <Richard> know what you mean
[02:21] <Richard> its my wife that took the thoughts and put them into action
[02:22] <Richard> how long ago did you start reading about the shift?
[02:22] <BoY> i still have to get a shovel
[02:22] <BoY> lol
[02:22] <Richard> lol
[02:22] <Richard> and a metal cover
[02:23] <BoY> i also think many will make it prepared or not
[02:23] <Richard> I sure hope you are right
[02:24] <Richard> you won't stay in New York tho' would you?
[02:24] <BoY> god,bad, & ugly  some of each will make it
[02:24] <BoY> goo
[02:24] <BoY> good
[02:24] <BoY> no i'd leave coast for sure
[02:24] <Richard> not alot of places to go to here as we are surrounded by sea/ocean
[02:25] <Richard> but we have some good ranges
[02:25] <BoY> does zetatalk say new zealand is a good place
[02:25] <Richard> they say it will be a good place after the shift
[02:25] <BoY> oh
[02:25] <Richard> as long as we can make it through
[02:26] <Richard> more of NZ above the sea and on the equator
[02:26] <Richard> so it will be even hotter
[02:26] <Richard> good job I got a suntan being a postie  ;+)
[02:27] <BoY> postie sounds like a relaxed job
[02:27] <BoY> do u deliver mail or sort
[02:27] <Richard> ride a pushbike 22kms a day
[02:27] <Richard> guess that would be approx 10 miles in conversion
[02:28] <BoY> ah that's healthy
[02:28] <Richard> only deliver the mail
[02:28] <BoY> even in rain
[02:28] <Richard> yep like today
[02:28] <Richard> got drenched
[02:28] <BoY> the mail must go thru
[02:28] <BoY> :)
[02:28] <Richard> :)
[02:28] <Richard> how old are you
[02:28] <BoY> 43
[02:28] <Richard> I'm 49
[02:29] <Richard> you any kids
[02:29] <Richard> you have any kids should I say
[02:29] <BoY> yei boy
[02:29] <Richard> I've got 3 ... all left home now
[02:30] <BoY> mine is in college
[02:30] <Richard> you spoken with him about the coming shift?
[02:30] <BoY> nope
[02:31] <Richard> it can be a hard decision
[02:31] <BoY> he already thinks i'm leaving in a world that's scarey
[02:31] <Richard> as in?
[02:32] <Richard> being unemployed you mean?
[02:32] <BoY> was speaking about cameras every where , banking instituion watching all $
[02:32] <BoY> he said i feel sorry for you
[02:32] <Richard> understand
[02:32] <BoY> u r living in a frighting world
[02:32] <Richard> the elite control
[02:33] <BoY> he has not become aware of these things yet & may not
[02:33] <BoY> he's bben taken care of
[02:34] <Richard> younger minds are far more controlled today
[02:34] <BoY> i told him even tho i see the world as i do i am still enjoying my life , just aware
[02:34] <Richard> the hippie thing scared the control freaks
[02:35] <Richard> and they put a lid on it is my take
[02:35] <BoY> sure, can't have free any thing
[02:35] <Richard> real shame
[02:35] <Richard> but the day of change is coming ..... I hope
[02:36] <BoY> the shame is the leaders told us how to take ctrl , yet when they were killed no one followed thru
[02:36] <BoY> it's as if we wanted them to do it for us
[02:36] <Richard> yep
[02:37] <BoY> now the keyword of day is terror......i'd better not tell my son that
[02:37] <BoY> lol
[02:37] <Richard> I agree with you there ...keywords and people don't realise they are there
[02:38] <BoY> i think there's gonna be more than sabre rattling soon
[02:38] <Richard> hey this might be crazy but today I realized
[02:38] <Richard> 9/11
[02:39] <Richard> add the two together makes 20 which if it was months brings you to May 2003
[02:39] <BoY> yes
[02:39] <Richard> how crazy is that shit
[02:41] <Richard> you think Bush will go into Iraq?
[02:41] <BoY> more like korea will be the BIG thing
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[02:42] <sotos> hello all
[02:42] <Richard> that korea thing is like something from left field
[02:42] <Richard> hi sotos
[02:42] <BoY> was thinking about iraq being the guise to mass troops over there for korea,wanted to view map but haven't
[02:43] <Richard> iraq & korea are way way apart
[02:43] <Richard> geographically
[02:43] <BoY> yes
[02:43] <Richard> no I think korea came at Bush unseen
[02:44] <Richard> but I agree with zetatalk in that its a ploy to get more food
[02:44] <Richard> those people are staving big time
[02:44] <BoY> do u think korea / iraq r in colusion
[02:44] <Richard> personally no
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[02:45] <Richard> the news you receive in america is so different to what we see
[02:45] <BoY> well did u hear the news abut korea saying they r no longer abiding by the nuclear treaties
[02:45] <Richard> cnn just goes on & on about iraq and terror as if it was the only things happening
[02:45] <tenshu`zz> that's because we censor so much
[02:46] <Richard> yep BoY
[02:47] <BoY> china was there backing korea in past, u think they still r
[02:47] <Richard> they show you on the news there about the bushfires in australia before christmas?
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[02:47] <Richard> i think china are in there behind the scenes with korea
[02:47] <BoY> yes saw fires
[02:47] <BoY> on news
[02:48] <Richard> they tell you about the drought having cut australian wheat production?
[02:48] <BoY> the news now is showing volcano erupting in quatanmolo
[02:49] <BoY> no i didn't realize wheat production was low
[02:49] <Richard> here they have already told us the price of bread and all baked goods (cakes etc) will be going up because of wheat shortage hence higher prices
[02:50] <Richard> australian production of wheat down 40% and that was announced by their govt
[02:50] <Richard> and australia is worlds number 2 wheat exporter
[02:51] <Richard> america is number 1 and your production is down as well
[02:51] <sotos> How hironic... Yesterday I close a good business deal. It has to do with the Olympic games on 2004. Good money !!
[02:51] <sotos> :(
[02:51] <BoY> price of everything is sky high including food here
[02:51] <Richard> don't tell anyone sotos
[02:52] <sotos> yeah :(
[02:52] <Richard> but they don't tell people WHY the price of everything is high
[02:52] <BoY> middle man
[02:52] <Richard> also weather affecting food production
[02:53] <Richard> canada number 3 wheat exporter. Govt announced a lower wheat production
[02:53] <Richard> Germany & Czech Republic produce the worlds best quality wheat
[02:54] <Richard> their production down because of flooding last summer
[02:54] <Richard> and UK had to spend more money on drying their wheat because of persistent rain
[02:56] <BoY> well meat is still on the shelves here therefore there seems to be enough food for them
[02:56] <BoY> & water
[02:56] <Richard> bottled water you mean?
[02:56] <BoY> it has been said that for each cow brought to slaughter the amount of water it takes would float a battleship
[02:56] <Richard> did you ever think you would see the day when you had to PAY for water
[02:57] <BoY> yes i saw it in comic books as kid
[02:57] <Richard> one cow will NEED 70 litres water per day (if its a milking cow)
[02:57] <Richard> I milked cows for 17 years
[02:58] <Richard> up to 335 at one stage
[02:58] <Richard> that's a herd of 335 cows ... a lot of water
[02:59] <Richard> its now saturday morning here
[03:01] <Richard> sotos you in Athens?
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[03:01] <sotos> yes
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[03:01] <Richard> you see the big hole that swallowed the car ?
[03:01] <sotos> still friday here 1:00 pm
[03:01] <BoY> the food the cows eats is part of the water amount
[03:01] <sotos> yes!!
[03:02] <BoY> many gallons
[03:02] <sotos> terrible ee?
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[03:02] <Richard> the maori word for sinkhole is tomo
[03:03] <sotos> We wait for big earthquaqes here in Greece
[03:03] <Richard> I read about the quakes
[03:03] <Richard> hi obany
[03:03] <BoY> yes i saw on earth quake page they get them alot in greece
[03:03] <Richard> as in waitomo Caves
[03:03] <sotos> My friend of mine work in a erthquake sientific team
[03:04] <BoY> it's a wonder the greek ancient buidings still stand
[03:04] <sotos> and said to me the situation is bad... They are not allowed to tell to media
[03:04] <Richard> and what does he say about the number of quakes?
[03:04] <Richard> they increasing?
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[03:04] <sotos> yes
[03:05] <Richard> not allowed to tell media ... that's a worry
[03:05] <obany> mmm indeed
[03:05] <obany> brb
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[03:05] <sotos> That is a usual thing here..
[03:05] <Richard> did he say strength increasing or number quakes or both
[03:05] <sotos> Earthquake teams are not allowed to make predictions
[03:06] <sotos> both
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[03:06] <Richard> hmmm
[03:06] <Mugada> G'day all
[03:06] <Richard> hi Mugada
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[03:07] <obany> brb
[03:07] <Mugada> hi
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[03:07] <sotos> Actually he said next month first 10 days will have a >6 in middle Greece
[03:07] <Richard> sotos: did he say how much quakes/strength have increased by?
[03:07] <Richard> wow
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[03:07] <sotos> The chart is still going up and up...
[03:08] <sotos> in both
[03:08] <obany> in Greece that is?
[03:08] <sotos> It is a smouth increse in frequent..
[03:09] <Richard> you feeling any quakes yet?
[03:09] <sotos> The streangth is not worrie them....
[03:09] <Richard> or are they too deep
[03:09] <obany> okay one more time brb
[03:09] <BoY> why r they not worried
[03:09] <sotos> Almost every day
[03:09] <BoY> do they think they r safe
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[03:10] <sotos> Those short time quaqes are not good at all
[03:10] <sotos> They bring a large one
[03:10] <Richard> I have this "feeling" we are in the calm before the storm
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[03:11] <Richard> anyone else feel that?
[03:11] <obany> Richard: feel what?
[03:11] <sotos> So if many short quakes hapen often is a bad sign he said
[03:11] <Mugada> yep
[03:11] <sotos> He work ai the Famus VAN team
[03:11] <Richard> Mugada: I'm in NZ
[03:12] <Mugada> ok
[03:12] <Richard> where in Aus are you?
[03:12] <Mugada> blue mountains
[03:12] <Richard> good place?
[03:12] <Mugada> I hope so
[03:13] <Richard> :)
[03:13] <Mugada> :-)
[03:13] <sotos> Mountains are the safest :)
[03:13] <Richard> again I hope your right
[03:14] <sotos> no volcanos no earth holes no big feeling on earthquakes... as long as you have a horizontal place in a good altitude
[03:14] <Mugada> maybe the sandstone here has sea shells inbeded in it
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[03:15] <BoY> being away from fault lines if what i'd think is safe
[03:15] <Richard> Blue Mountains are sandstone?
[03:15] <Mugada> Richard u nth or sth island
[03:15] <Richard> definitely BoY
[03:15] <Richard> north island
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[03:16] <Mugada> all sand stone down to 250 meters the granete
[03:16] <Richard> fault line between east & west coast runs Wellington to Bay of Plebty
[03:16] <Richard> Plenty
[03:16] <sotos> Ofcourse never is 100% safe...don't forget that at himalaias mountains, Sientists have found prehistoric fish boans.
[03:16] <BoY> yet the structures in south america built of blocks of stones r on fault lines & r still standing for centuries
[03:17] <BoY> those stones weigh tons
[03:17] <Richard> so much we have yet to discover & understand
[03:17] <obany> sotos: but it won't be safe now to go to  the Himalaias mountains .. will turn into a polar areaa
[03:17] <obany> but yes okay
[03:17] <Richard> hopefully this time :+)
[03:18] <sotos> I never plan to go there..
[03:18] <sotos> :)\
[03:18] <Richard> hopefully this time .... we will discover & understand
[03:18] <Mugada> but looking forward to living in the tropics
[03:18] <Richard> with leaches   :(
[03:18] <Richard> have my paw paw seeds ready :)
[03:19] <Mugada> and mangoes
[03:19] <Richard> you have banana passionfruit in Australia?
[03:19] <Mugada> yep
[03:20] <Richard> wonderful tropic fruit and grow so fast
[03:20] <sotos> I Just saw it at tv news....
[03:20] <sotos> 2 new earth openings in Greece
[03:20] <Mugada> mustget some seeds then
[03:20] <sotos> !!
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[03:21] <Richard> as in sink holes sotos?
[03:21] <sotos> yes....one momment.. I will tell you
[03:21] <Richard> ok
[03:21] <BoY> ah news hot off the net
[03:22] <BoY> live
[03:22] <Richard> only way to go  :)
[03:22] <Richard> shhh don't tell bush
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[03:22] <bush> i hear you :P
[03:22] <BoY> mums the word of the day
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[03:22] <Richard> lol
[03:23] <Richard> is that herr bush?
[03:23] <obany> I heard that Bush spends his time on Funnet :P
[03:23] <obany> if he has a day off
[03:23] <BoY> well he is college educated
[03:23] <Richard> let me speak to him
[03:23] <Richard> I have a pretzel for his other cheek
[03:24] <Richard> :+)
[03:26] <obany> also http://www.nj.com/news/expresstimes/pa/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1042193179123390.xml ( U. NAZARETH TWP. -- Another sinkhole opened up at Nazareth Area Middle School last week, according to Gregg Kindt, the school district's buildings and grounds director.
[03:27] <obany> )
[03:27] <obany> but it occured before .. for what i read .... and the area is prone to sinkholes says this url
[03:28] <Richard> since the start of the new year many of the movies being shown on TV  are movies involving aliens (IE Attack from Mars)
[03:29] <Richard> anyone else in their countries notice a similiar pattern?
[03:32] <obany> not realy over here that is
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[03:32] <Alex> holla
[03:32] <Alex> =)
[03:32] <Richard> hi Alex
[03:32] <Alex> how are you:
[03:33] <Richard> fine
[03:33] <Richard> you in Brazil?
[03:33] <Richard> I'm in New Zealand
[03:33] <Alex> yes
[03:34] <Alex> very good!
[03:35] <Richard> sotos: that's a long broadcast
[03:36] <Richard> Greeks always did have long words for things  ;+)
[03:36] <BoY> maybe he fell in hole?
[03:36] <sotos> ok..
[03:36] <Richard> :) ... hope not
[03:36] <Alex> [Richard]: it must be cold where you this
[03:36] <sotos> 2 new holes in north Greece
[03:36] <Richard> nope its muggy
[03:37] <Richard> nearly the middle of summer
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[03:37] <sotos> Large and unstopable.... but are very fresh news and There is no URL rigth now to give you
[03:38] <sotos> They are NEW ones
[03:38] <Richard> when you get URL send it to QueenVee
[03:38] <sotos> sure I will
[03:38] <Richard> and Nancy as well
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[03:39] <obany> sotos interresting interresting :/
[03:39] <Richard> seems to be a few of these sink holes happening all of a sudden
[03:43] <Mugada> the suspence
[03:43] <Richard> Mugada: do you have a source for heirloom seeds?
[03:43] <Richard> URL?
[03:44] <Mugada> we have a shop here the sells seeds ,  made up off local organic farmers
[03:45] <Mugada> even tobaco seeds
[03:45] <Richard> haven't found anything like that around here but they must be out there
[03:46] <Richard> been collecting from own garden, friends gardens and while on my postie round
[03:46] <Richard> got paw paw seeds today while delivering the mail
[03:47] <Mugada> the shop here is a co-op group and sells organic foods growen all over aust.
[03:47] <Richard> what sort of money for a packet of veggie seeds
[03:48] <Mugada> not sure who packs the seeds though ,,, must look on some of the packets
[03:48] <Mugada> $2-3
[03:49] <Richard> do you know if they sell tropical fruit seeds?
[03:49] <Mugada> everything
[03:49] <Richard> cool
[03:50] <Mugada> some people here have hot houses
[03:50] <Richard> hot houses in Australia  !!!!!
[03:50] <Richard> do you need them   :+)
[03:50] <Mugada> it snows here
[03:50] <Richard> I know
[03:50] <Richard> see it on the hills in Victoria
[03:51] <Richard> lived in Melbourne many years ago
[03:51] <Mugada> were centre of nsw
[03:51] <Richard> you into bartering?
[03:52] <Mugada> maybe
[03:52] <Richard> you like music?
[03:52] <Mugada> tone deaf
[03:53] <Richard> what's that :+)
[03:53] <Mugada> can't follow tunes
[03:54] <Richard> what about ambient music?
[03:54] <Mugada> whats that
[03:54] <Richard> same note played throughout the music
[03:54] <Richard> no-no just joking
[03:55] <Richard> same note should be alright for those who are tone deaf :)
[03:55] <Mugada> supose i could pick it up
[03:56] <Richard> you listen to any music or does it just pass you by (so to speak)?
[03:56] <Mugada> back ground noise
[03:56] <Richard> yep
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[03:58] <Richard> Mugada: does the mango have LOTS of seeds in the centre
[03:58] <Mugada> one big one
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[03:59] <Richard> I'll have to buy a mango then
[03:59] <sotos> brb
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[03:59] <Richard> ok sotos
[04:00] <Mugada> fruit shop brought fruit could be hybride type
[04:01] <Richard> even mango's ?
[04:01] <Mugada> don' know
[04:03] <Richard> I see the mango also grows in California
[04:03] <Mugada> and the gum tree :-)
[04:04] <Richard> it has a distant affinity to cashew & pistachio
[04:04] <Mugada> very distant, more like a peach
[04:05] <Richard> I'm reading that some even last 300 years
[04:05] <Richard> & still fruitiing
[04:05] <Mugada> yep some very big trees around
[04:06] <Richard> you have them in your area?
[04:06] <Mugada> no more nth qld
[04:07] <Richard> aha
[04:07] <Mugada> cost $3.00 each here,, in qld can' give them away
[04:09] <Richard> couldn't grow them here at all (presently).
[04:10] <Richard> well its after 1am Saturday here & I have to work in the morning
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[04:10] <Mugada> worth trying after the shift
[04:10] <Richard> good talking with you all
[04:11] <Richard> later
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[04:11] <Mugada> ok
[04:14] <Mugada> must go too bye all
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[04:19] <VB> Good morning to all
[04:20] <metta> Hi its evening here
[04:20] <VB> UK here
[04:20] <VB> Good evening metta
[04:20] <metta> Malysia, South East Asia
[04:21] <metta> Whats the latest on Planet X
[04:21] <VB> Malay... a beautiful place
[04:21] <VB> Planet x
[04:21] <metta> Thanks, you've been here
[04:21] <VB> I would say it's a long way off from here
[04:22] <metta> yeah
[04:22] <metta> Whereabout in UK
[04:23] <VB> Cheltenham
[04:23] <VB> I went to the merdeka celebration last september
[04:23] <metta> Sorry dont know where that is
[04:23] <metta> VB, sorry gotta run off now
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[04:25] <VB> funny metta didn't know about the 'Merdeka' celebration as it's a yearly Malay Independance celebration... [strange]
[04:26] <VB> I have my doubts as to metta actually being from Malaysia
[04:37] <obany> i don't know about this celebration so i don't know
[04:55] <BoY> me either
[05:03] <VB> it would be like an american not knowing what indepence day was
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[05:34] <BoY> oh
[05:43] * tex-away everyone have a great day... off to work
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[05:59] <obany> hi Queen and bye Queen i will return later
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[05:59] <QueenVee> ok
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[06:15] <sotos> hello :)
[06:15] <QueenVee> hello sotos
[06:15] <QueenVee> is it morning or afternoon in greece?
[06:15] <sotos> 4:14pm
[06:16] <sotos> friday  :)
[06:16] <sotos> there?
[06:16] <QueenVee> 9:14am friday
[06:17] <sotos> 7 hours difference
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[06:19] <QueenVee> hello spiff
[06:19] <Spiff> Hello again
[06:19] <QueenVee> i'm just heading out the door....
[06:20] <QueenVee> will be back in an hour or so....
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[06:20] <Spiff> Bye
[06:20] <Spiff> Jurian
[06:20] <Spiff> any snowing in your area?
[06:21] <Spiff> I'' be back later have to work
[06:21] <Spiff> bye
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[06:55] <Dsarith> Hi all
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[07:14] <trilluser> hello folk
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[07:42] <Queen-away> hello stevie
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[07:43] <stevie> hi how are you all?
[07:44] <QueenVee> i'm good -- i think i'm the only one here....
[07:44] <stevie> nancy is going to be on the lou gentile show...feb the 28th......
[07:44] <QueenVee> i'm recovering from a massive workout this morning with my new dog....
[07:44] <QueenVee> yes, i heard that
[07:45] <stevie> pup?
[07:45] <QueenVee> 3 year old Harrier Hound
[07:45] <stevie> coulour?
[07:45] <stevie> colour
[07:45] <QueenVee> tri-colour black, tan, and white -- they're bigger than a beagle, and smaller than a foxhound
[07:46] <stevie> im not that clued up on dog's
[07:46] <stevie> m/f?
[07:46] <QueenVee> hey, i'd never heard of a harrier hound until i got this guy
[07:46] <QueenVee> male -- Harry
[07:46] <stevie> male
[07:46] <stevie> lol
[07:46] <QueenVee> i thought i was getting a beagle
[07:47] <stevie> queen where do you live/
[07:47] <QueenVee> southwestern ontario canada
[07:47] <stevie> what's your weather like ..snow?
[07:47] <stevie> i have a friend in toronto...
[07:48] <stevie> brother more like..
[07:48] <QueenVee> well, we've been having very mild winters for the past few years, instead of steady snow (like it used to be), we have periods of snow on the ground, then warm periods that melts it all away....
[07:48] <QueenVee> we're having a snow period now....
[07:48] <QueenVee> i lived in Toronto for 20 years
[07:48] <stevie> wow
[07:48] <QueenVee> relocated back to my hometown of London, Ontario about a year ago, for several reasons, including the poleshift
[07:49] <stevie> hey queen we had snow in essex first time in 10 years
[07:49] <QueenVee> ha, how many inches?
[07:49] <stevie> only about 3inches but that's alot here
[07:49] <QueenVee> right....
[07:50] <stevie> i felt like a child again
[07:50] <QueenVee> yes, that's one thing we like about snow here...
[07:50] <QueenVee> it can be very pretty, and fun to play in
[07:50] <QueenVee> especially if you have a dog
[07:50] <stevie> me to......it's wonderful snow
[07:51] <stevie> how old are you queen if you dont mind?
[07:51] <QueenVee> winter get to be a drag in February and March, when you're left with dirty, slushy, snow
[07:51] <QueenVee> 43
[07:51] <stevie> you have more snow to come
[07:52] <QueenVee> oh yeah, but it's quite unpredictable
[07:52] <stevie> lucky you.....
[07:52] <QueenVee> how old are you, stevie?
[07:52] <stevie> 31
[07:52] <QueenVee> essex is south of kent, yes?
[07:53] <stevie> it's near kent.....
[07:53] <stevie> have you been to england?
[07:53] <QueenVee> which county is Dover in?
[07:53] <QueenVee> i spent a year and a half in England when i was younger
[07:53] <stevie> doing what?
[07:54] <QueenVee> i spent 5 months cycling the british isles (did about 5,000 miles), then worked and lived in Cambridge for the rest of the time
[07:54] <stevie> did you marry
[07:54] <QueenVee> twice married, twice divorced
[07:54] <Dsarith> HI QV
[07:54] <QueenVee> hi dsarith
[07:55] <QueenVee> so far my new dog and the cat are not getting along
[07:55] <Dsarith> How is your new pal
[07:55] <QueenVee> well, i love him to death....
[07:55] <QueenVee> but we're having a rocky start...
[07:56] <QueenVee> i was expecting a beagle, but he is in fact a harrier hound
[07:56] <Dsarith> You cat is protecting her territory
[07:56] <stevie> iv not marred yet..but my mum has divorced..kind of put's me off..
[07:56] <QueenVee> stevie: nothing ventured, nothing gained
[07:56] <Dsarith> Dont be in a hurry stevie :-)
[07:56] <QueenVee> Dsarith: well, she's not territorial; she ADORED my previous dog Ben, but he was old and practically comotose....
[07:57] <stevie> but do you need a piece of paper to proof your love 4 someone..
[07:57] <Dsarith> Stevie: Women are generally evil :-)
[07:57] <stevie> lol
[07:57] <Dsarith> To a woman you do
[07:57] <Dsarith> lol
[07:57] <Dsarith> Present company is exception of course
[07:57] <Dsarith> :)
[07:57] <stevie> i have been with louise my partner for 6 years now.
[07:58] <QueenVee> stevie: relationships are all about compromise; sometimes you sign the piece of paper simply because the person you love needs it
[07:58] <stevie> i guess......we will have to see..if i do fancy coming to my wedding?
[07:59] <QueenVee> stevie: the argument "it's just a piece of paper" goes both ways -- if it doesn't mean anything, why not just do it becase your partner wants it?
[07:59] <Dsarith> Stevie: Do you find yourself in a pressure cooker and the heat rising. When its just about to blow you concede and marry
[07:59] <QueenVee> i truly believe that marriage is "just a piece of paper"; therefore, when my partners wanted to take the marriage step, it didn't matter one way or another to me....
[08:00] <stevie> when you see what hapens to your parent's and children you look at it twice.....
[08:00] <stevie> devorce that is.
[08:00] <Dsarith> QV: Why is it that the Marriage is so magical? Let me explain...
[08:00] <QueenVee> stevie: do you honestly think that when you break up with your long-term partner, it's going to be any less painful simply because you're not married? if you think that, you're deluded
[08:01] <stevie> i think it will be alot easier.
[08:01] <stevie> no court battle.
[08:01] <QueenVee> well, like i said, you're deluded
[08:01] <stevie> lol like you.....
[08:01] <QueenVee> you're married under common law after being married for two years
[08:02] <QueenVee> so there can still be a court battle
[08:02] <stevie> it feel's like it...lol
[08:02] <stevie> i own my house
[08:02] <QueenVee> CORRECTION: you're married under common law after LIVING TOGETHER for two years
[08:02] <stevie> she came to me
[08:02] <Dsarith> A woman is a mans dream before marriage, but then somewhere in the wedding she mutates. Best I can figure is that the Gold ring and the magic words of "I Do" changes her and she becomes this other creature. Scary Creature... Evil Creature.
[08:02] <Dsarith> 3 Years here in TExas
[08:02] <QueenVee> stevie: well, i hate to break it to you, but she owns half of it now....
[08:03] <stevie> noooooooooooooooooo
[08:03] <stevie> help me
[08:03] <QueenVee> yesssssssssssss
[08:03] <Dsarith> No Help for you... come back 3 years
[08:03] <stevie> i love her deeply.......
[08:03] <QueenVee> if you are using living together as a "testing out" period, you have to break it off before the two-year mark, or you're considered married under common law
[08:04] <QueenVee> so when you consider all that, what are you protecting yourself against? nothing
[08:04] <stevie> would you marry again queen?
[08:04] <QueenVee> no
[08:04] <stevie> im right see.....
[08:04] <QueenVee> i'm not interested in romantic relationships anymore
[08:04] <Dsarith> Stevie: Your partner has paid QV to talk you into marriage. Dont let her do it
[08:04] * juditness is away.. work [mail: judit@geekychick.org] at 17:06:12
[08:04] <QueenVee> hey, i don't care
[08:05] <Dsarith> What kind of relationship do you want QV?
[08:05] <stevie> ds..dont worry mate no chance.
[08:05] <QueenVee> and good and loyal dog
[08:05] <Dsarith> Good Man! Make all men proud. STand for our rights
[08:05] <Dsarith> QV: LOL... you are much better off QV
[08:05] <stevie> queen your next man might be the right one..
[08:06] <QueenVee> my desire not to partner with someone again has nothing to do with the institution of marriage
[08:06] <stevie> what then?/
[08:06] <QueenVee> my energies are focussed elsewhere; marriage (including common-law marriage) takes a lot of work
[08:07] <stevie> but love is the biggest energy..
[08:07] <QueenVee> stevie: but romantic love is not the only kind of love
[08:07] <QueenVee> and it is usually the least powerful
[08:07] <QueenVee> and the least long-term
[08:07] <Dsarith> Very True QV
[08:07] <stevie> off coure..but it's the best love
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[08:08] <QueenVee> in your opinion
[08:08] <Dsarith> Hi Miguel
[08:08] <miguel> hello
[08:08] <stevie> in god's opinion
[08:08] <QueenVee> stevie: you haven't experienced the love you have for a child yet
[08:08] <QueenVee> stevie: you know god's opinion?
[08:08] <QueenVee> wow
[08:08] <stevie> i do
[08:08] <QueenVee> hello miguel
[08:09] <QueenVee> well, like i said, you're deluded
[08:09] <miguel> hello queen
[08:09] <stevie> lol
[08:09] <stevie> thank's queen
[08:09] <QueenVee> the world is full of people who place romantic love above the love of their children; and it's a very sad state of affairs
[08:09] <stevie> i think you mean lust.....
[08:09] <QueenVee> no, i mean romantic love
[08:10] <stevie> explain romantic love to me...
[08:10] <QueenVee> just a sec, phone...
[08:10] <stevie> ds you there?
[08:11] <Dsarith> Yes Stevie
[08:11] <stevie> dsarith you there?
[08:11] <stevie> ok
[08:11] <stevie> where do you live mate?
[08:11] <Dsarith> Dallas TX
[08:12] <stevie> what's it like there
[08:12] <Dsarith> I am in the same boat as you are
[08:12] <QueenVee> i'm back
[08:12] <stevie> meaning?
[08:12] <Dsarith> But you see Stevie I am weak
[08:12] <QueenVee> stevie: read Plato, C.S. Lewis, et al on the four loves....
[08:13] <stevie> what do they know..
[08:13] <Dsarith> My girlfriend has talked me into marrying her by pressure cuz she thinks the paper means something. I tried all those arguements... They didnt work
[08:13] <stevie> just people like me and you no greater..
[08:13] <Dsarith> I am fine the way things are ... she is not
[08:13] <stevie> mate sort it out..
[08:13] <stevie> you are boss
[08:14] <Dsarith> But I have been married once before... I am marrying her because I want to. She is a good woman
[08:14] <QueenVee> stevie: Philios, Storge, Eros, and Agape
[08:14] <stevie> good im happy for you when's the big date?
[08:14] <Dsarith> The choice in my case is marry or lose her. She is ready to have children and reminds me of that
[08:15] <Dsarith> End of year or next year if I can push it that far... lol
[08:15] <stevie> lol
[08:15] <VB> Hello all...
[08:15] <stevie> ds how old are you m8?
[08:15] <QueenVee> the struggle over the issue of marriage is just a power struggle that's a characteristic of most romantic relationships; a struggle to gain the upper hand in the relationships; that doesn't tend to be present in other forms of love
[08:15] <QueenVee> hello VB
[08:15] <VB> Hello QV
[08:16] <VB> Marriage in todays society should be seen as nothing more than a sign of ones commitment to another
[08:16] <stevie> o no another one ds......
[08:16] <QueenVee> VBG: as opposed to what?
[08:16] <QueenVee> Stevie: VB is in the UK as well....
[08:16] <stevie> hi vb
[08:16] <VB> I am married.
[08:17] <VB> hi Stevie
[08:17] <stevie> never mind
[08:17] <Dsarith> Marriage is an institution developed by women
[08:17] <Dsarith> Security
[08:17] <stevie> yes that's right
[08:17] <VB> Registry office, nothing special... just my wife and myself...
[08:17] <QueenVee> Dsarith: your knowledge of social history is rather lacking
[08:17] <Dsarith> lol
[08:17] <stevie> lol
[08:18] <stevie> we are having fun today
[08:18] <Dsarith> No QV its not
[08:18] <QueenVee> Dsarith: i'm sure you believe that
[08:18] <stevie> do you think we are sexist me and ds?
[08:18] <Dsarith> I am convinced that regardless of what has been written, woman have been behind the whole thing. They have forced men into marriage from the beginning of time.
[08:18] <VB> why do you think they have changed the vows stevie.. it's a sign of the times... you know have a choice of 3... it's laughable
[08:19] <QueenVee> oh my, do i hear a song of victimhood?
[08:19] <Dsarith> lol
[08:19] <VB> lol
[08:19] <QueenVee> get out the violins
[08:19] <Dsarith> Lets put some logic here...
[08:19] <stevie> go 4 it
[08:19] <QueenVee> Dsarith: no one can force you to do anything you don't want to do
[08:19] <QueenVee> and NO ONE can force you into marriage
[08:19] <stevie> his woman has
[08:19] <QueenVee> take responsibility for your own decisions, and stop being a whiner
[08:19] <Dsarith> A man has a choice of having many wives or be tied to one woman his whole life. What would the man choose. Thats a touch one
[08:20] <VB> to be frank a marraige cetificate isn't really worth the paper it's printed on... it's only our societys laws that confine us to this agreement we have chosen to undertake with another
[08:20] <Dsarith> touch=tough
[08:20] <QueenVee> VB: agreed
[08:20] <VB> but between the two of you it only means what you want it to mean
[08:20] <stevie> well said vb.......clap clap
[08:20] <Dsarith> QV: You are correct
[08:20] <QueenVee> VB: agreed
[08:20] <Dsarith> VB: Try to convince a woman to agree with you
[08:21] <stevie> lol
[08:21] <QueenVee> Dsarith: what a bore you are
[08:21] <Dsarith> I tried that line too... it didnt work
[08:21] <VB> My wife agrees with me... if she hadn't I wouldn't have married her...
[08:21] <QueenVee> women always do this, men always do that....
[08:21] <QueenVee> <yawn>
[08:21] <Dsarith> QV: I am not a bore... I like being piggish, but in truth I am very caring
[08:21] <stevie> women are strange
[08:22] <Dsarith> Women ARE strange
[08:22] <QueenVee> Dsarith: hate to break it to you, but one does not usually have the ability to evaluate whether you are a bore or not -- it's only the perception of others that counts
[08:22] <VB> I would have been fine just the way we were... but to her it show a final sign of commitment... well it didn't change the way I felt, and if was something that she needed to help her feel secure...then so be it
[08:22] <stevie> remember women came from men..
[08:22] <QueenVee> VB: spoken like a reasonable adult
[08:22] <QueenVee> VB: i did the same for both my husbands; it made no difference to me one way or another; it made a difference to them.... so i did it...
[08:23] <QueenVee> didn't change a thing
[08:23] <Dsarith> Reality is in ones perception so you are correct QV
[08:23] <Dsarith> The fact is my opinion of myself is the only one that actually matters to me. Well, my fiances opinion counts too.
[08:24] <stevie> more and more people are turning away from mariage.....
[08:24] <VB> it's true.. it doesn't really change anything apart from show that you are willing to accept in part something of todays troubled society and it's ludicrous misconceptions about what you have to do to show who you are
[08:24] <QueenVee> stevie: only the piece of paper, they're still marrying under common-law
[08:24] <Dsarith> That because women are getting stranger and more evil.
[08:25] <stevie> no that possesions your talking about..materiel things
[08:25] <stevie> not love
[08:25] <QueenVee> stevie: so what about your love will change if you marry your partner on paper as opposed to the commonlaw marriage you have now?
[08:25] <VB> very true...common 'LAW' that's all it comes down to at the end of the day
[08:25] <Dsarith> stevie: I have had the same mate for 4 years... She has her own place and I have mine... No possibility of common law here.
[08:26] <stevie> why should she have half of my house just because she live's there i worked hard for a house.
[08:26] <Dsarith> There some arguements that since the property was yours before common law then it would go to you. This is under US law, not UK
[08:26] <QueenVee> stevie: because you're married under common-law; you want your cake and eat it too; i at least respect Dsarith for keeping separate residences if he truly did not want marriage
[08:27] <QueenVee> stevie: you want all the benefits of marriage, and none of the inconveniences
[08:27] <stevie> what do you mean.....that's rubbish
[08:28] <QueenVee> well, if you didn't want to be married, why did you let your girlfriend move in with you?
[08:28] <Dsarith> QV: I like her to go away when we fight :-)
[08:28] <stevie> i love her..not give her half my home i worked hard for.....
[08:28] <QueenVee> stevie: then you shouldn't have had her move in, you shouldn't have married her under common law
[08:29] <QueenVee> take responsibilities for the consequences of your own decisions
[08:29] <stevie> i dont belive it help me out guy's
[08:29] <Dsarith> stevie: Bottom line its your life... handle it the way you want.
[08:29] <stevie> women
[08:30] <VB> you dug your own grave... lol
[08:30] <stevie> cheers
[08:30] <QueenVee> dsarith: there's no danger of stevie not handling his life the way he wants; but he's going to bore everyone to death with his "i want my cake and eat it to" whining while he does so...
[08:30] <VB> it can't be all that bad if you let her move...
[08:30] <Dsarith> I have given in because I have no choice. I will lose her if I do not respond so I am responding
[08:30] <Dsarith> QV: lol I understand QV, I understand
[08:30] <QueenVee> i could care less if stevie marries on paper or not -- i just want him to stop whining
[08:30] <stevie> i give up........you win queen.......
[08:31] <QueenVee> i always do
[08:31] <Dsarith> Yes, yes you do QV :-)
[08:31] <VB> give her a rent book and ask to contirbute that way... say it's a tax thing and you can get benifits from her paying rent...
[08:31] <stevie> women you see .......
[08:31] <VB> ...then if you split up you can say she was a loger
[08:31] <Dsarith> EXactly VB
[08:31] <QueenVee> well, i'm off to spent some quality time with the man in my life....
[08:31] <VB> lodger
[08:31] <Dsarith> Good Idea
[08:31] <QueenVee> taking my dog for a walk
[08:31] <stevie> im a million air
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[08:31] <Dsarith> Have fun QV
[08:31] <VB> cya later QV
[08:31] <Dsarith> Ok back to your issue stevie
[08:32] <Dsarith> Is she pressuring you?
[08:32] <stevie> no
[08:32] <stevie> i do love her deeply
[08:32] <Dsarith> Then dont worry about it. Mine has been pressuring for two years and now its do or die :-)
[08:32] <Dsarith> Love has nothing to do with marriage
[08:32] <Dsarith> Women dont understand that
[08:32] <Dsarith> Its just the way it is
[08:32] <stevie> just dont agree with common law wife crap......
[08:33] <Dsarith> That is the law but when it comes right down to it
[08:33] <Dsarith> Its whos got the better lawyer :-)
[08:33] <stevie> that's right ds man made law's or should i say women
[08:34] <Dsarith> Your house is probably safe cuz it was purchased in your name before relationship... no problem
[08:34] <Dsarith> Exactly stevie
[08:34] <Dsarith> What do you think VB?
[08:34] <stevie> want to talk about something else?
[08:34] <Dsarith> No problem
[08:34] <stevie> good
[08:34] <Dsarith> What shall we talk about
[08:35] <Dsarith> Lets talk about VB
[08:35] <Dsarith> lol
[08:35] <stevie> nothing depresing
[08:35] <Dsarith> Quit being depressed
[08:35] <stevie> hey do you watch football in texas?
[08:36] <stevie> i watched the minosotor in florida once...
[08:37] <stevie> vikings
[08:37] <Dsarith> On sec
[08:38] <stevie> brb..getting a drink
[08:39] <stevie> bck..
[08:41] <stevie> just to let everyone know NANCY is on the lou gentile show febuary 28th..put in your calandar..
[08:42] <VB> wow... just watched the first few minutes of Lord of the Rings two towers... awesome
[08:42] <stevie> good special affects
[08:42] <VB> yeah... have you seen the first one
[08:43] <stevie> yer about a week ago
[08:43] <VB> this one seems to follow straight on from that... where gandalf is fighting the balrog
[08:43] <stevie> two towers is suposed to be better
[08:44] <VB> hope so... started well
[08:44] <stevie> you watching now...
[08:44] <VB> I've just switched it off... watched the first 5 mins
[08:44] <stevie> vb what part of england are you?
[08:45] <VB> Cheltenham
[08:45] <stevie> Essex me...
[08:45] <VB> cool..
[08:45] <stevie> do you know essex at all
[08:45] <VB> not really apart it's just north of London
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[08:51] * juditness is away.. two towers. :XXXXX [mail: judit@geekychick.org] at 17:53:09
[08:52] <VB> juditness...?
[08:52] <RNTHOMAS> Yawn... first coffee....  how come I'm seeing double...
[08:52] <RNTHOMAS> This can't be good...
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[08:55] <juditness> VB...?
[09:02] <VB> Juditness... you mentioned Two towers..?
[09:03] <stevie> hi everyone
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[09:21] <tex-at-work> Dsarith... you awake
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[09:53] <obaway> hey Johhny baksteen :P
[09:55] <DRGREEN> hey
[09:55] <DRGREEN> :)
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[09:55] <haccess> http://people.zeelandnet.nl/jelleklap/chklist.jpg
[09:55] <haccess> had to share, kthx
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[09:55] <DRGREEN> :)
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[10:00] <obaway> do you follow this green http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use20031.htm
[10:00] <obaway> hi ojabun ?
[10:00] <ojabun> hello oba
[10:00] * obaway is now known as obany
[10:02] <obany> http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=avlrjo%24qsk%241%248300dec7%40news.demon.co.uk&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dsci.astro
[10:04] <ojabun> everyone talks about a comet passing or something causing the shift,but noone seams to notice the most obvious vibe....that we're simply sliding off into obliviance,the vibes of earth are getting higher and higher...but mankind is staying way behind and no longer in touch with any reality
[10:05] <ojabun> and it is incredable intense,ic still an compleet change daily...compleet,one day ppl are down and silent and conservative...the next day it's the exact opposite and ppl are up and wild
[10:05] <ojabun> it's insane
[10:06] <obany> ojabun: yes ojabun, but there is more going on ... kee in mind that there is also a transformation going on
[10:06] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t30.htm
[10:07] <ojabun> yea well,that is this vibe
[10:08] <ojabun> we have had everything already haven't we in our history...we have done and tried everything,there is nothing left new to do....except to become one,to become finaly real
[10:09] <obany> earth will become a home for those who are Service to Others .. 4th density
[10:09] <ojabun> and we HAD to do that....but cause we didn't,the vibe continues without us....and we ppl are still doing our stuff like we used to,but now without any underground,without any perpus or essence
[10:09] <ojabun> yes yes obany,but translate it into daily reality
[10:10] <ojabun> there is still an reality...and that concerns putting the world and yourself straight
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[10:11] <hjghj> is nancy coming tomorow??!?!?!?!?!!??!!!!?/
[10:11] <ojabun> you say 4th density....ic what you mean with that,it an density where you no longer can hold on to anything...nomore vain
[10:11] <obany> ojabun: this what is meant http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d00.htm
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[10:11] <ojabun> but that means you need to be one with self...and the counscious that goes toghether with that...is one of a superman
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[10:12] <NancyL> Greetings
[10:12] <obany> !kickban NanncyL
[10:12] <NancyL> the zeta brings good news
[10:13] <obany> change your nick
[10:13] <obany> or leave
[10:13] <ojabun> i've studied this throughout,i've read lotsa books about it...and they all say the same,that if we do not rise onto becoming real...we will all fall
[10:13] <NancyL> why this is Nanacy
[10:13] <NancyL> Nancy**
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[10:13] <obany> change your nick goddamned
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[10:13] <obany> !kickban NanncyL
[10:14] <ojabun> ignore him
[10:14] <NancyL> Why so mean to the discoverer of zeta talk
[10:14] <Ogmios> hi
[10:14] <obany> !kickban NancyL
[10:14] <RNTHOMAS> Hey John, aka NancyL
[10:14] <NancyL> damnit! lol
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[10:14] <ojabun> you ever heard about iarga aliens obany?
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[10:14] <RNTHOMAS> That was John Gray...
[10:14] <ojabun> some planet called iarga
[10:14] <johnigga> sorry about that my retard brother was on the comp
[10:15] <RNTHOMAS> obany - You scared John away!
[10:15] <RNTHOMAS> lol!
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[10:16] <ojabun> well,they are a very thick planet with lots higher gravity...and these aliens are here also,and they met with this dude in holland on a river....and they talked 3 days with him,and he wrote a book about it
[10:16] <ojabun> changed my life reading it
[10:17] <ojabun> but they say the same...that if we do not get cosmic integrated,than we're doomed
[10:17] <obany> !ban *!*@.sympatico.ca
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[10:17] <obany> !ban *!*@*.sympatico.ca
[10:17] <ojabun> and say what you want,but the cause of earth falling....is cause we didn't let go in time....the exissphere of mankind is making it fall
[10:18] <obany> en hoe die gast dan ?
[10:18] <obany> wie is die gast?
[10:18] <rstefdc> any 2003 planetX images available on the net?
[10:18] <ojabun> wait..i check it out
[10:19] <rstefdc> tx!
[10:19] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[10:19] <obany> there
[10:19] <ojabun> http://www.galactic-server.com/rune/iarga.html
[10:19] <ojabun> you can read the book there
[10:20] <RNTHOMAS> ob, why are you banning the entire sympatico.ca domain, if you don't mind me askin...
[10:20] <ojabun> it's incredable story
[10:20] <rstefdc> thanks! I'll check the sites right off....:)
[10:21] <ojabun> part 2 is not from the aliens though
[10:21] <ojabun> it's incredable reading...they actually live in a paradice
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[10:23] <rstefdc> wow, enough stuff to read for a whole weekend!
[10:23] <ojabun> but there density is very different from ours....on earth we have kinda free will to grow...they hadn't
[10:23] <ojabun> so in a way there planet is inferiour to hours
[10:24] <ojabun> if it wasn't that we didn't make entlightment
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[10:25] <obany> for what i know every planet starts with 3th density, and not with 4th or higher .. i prefer the view of zetatalk, the book of Ra and from some of the books of Lysa Royal
[10:26] <ojabun> well..i think there planet is not to compare...they have an gravity so heavy,that if you jump from 2 meters high...you dy
[10:26] <rstefdc> :O
[10:27] <ojabun> they don't like like humans either...all life there basicly grew in the water
[10:27] <ojabun> they more like evolved otters
[10:28] <obany> well i learned not the buy all stories etc that are on the Internet about aliens and races
[10:29] <ojabun> but nancy can say what she want....the earth is gonna flip cause we didn't get entlighted....yet we grow on,and so are leaning way over the edge...and still further and further every day,and i don't think this can go on forever...there be indeed an physicalcatalism....CAUSE WE DIDN'T GET REAL
[10:29] <ojabun> course not obany
[10:29] <ojabun> but i knew it was real,soon this guy says they made an impression of vulcano's
[10:30] <ojabun> that powerfull the aliens where
[10:30] <ojabun> and i knew you don't make up such an impression
[10:30] <obany> i don't agree with that ojabun, maybe your understand it from that .. but it doesn't have anything to witht it ... it's not because we didn't got real
[10:30] <ojabun> cause when you're one with your uncounscious/spirit...you are superman
[10:31] <ojabun> i think it did obany...and i see also where you stand on it
[10:31] <obany> oooh come on ojabun ... come on
[10:31] <obany> you don't understand me
[10:32] <ojabun> see...cause we didn't get entlighted,yet the time demands it...cause otherwise we are not in line anymore,and so as effect we will get catalism.....and your vieuw is that you think it is natural,that this is supposed to happen
[10:32] <ojabun> there would have nothing gone wrong if we gotten entlighted in time
[10:33] <rstefdc> are those iarga folks related/knowing to the upcoming planet?
[10:33] <ojabun> but nature moves on,with or without us...and so those not able to keep up will dy out....and in the end ppl will get entlighted anyway...though through hard times
[10:33] <ojabun> no..they say nothing about any comets
[10:34] <rstefdc> do you believe its coming?
[10:34] <obany> ooh sigh ....
[10:34] <ojabun> i think ppl underestimate the influance of the vibes of the exissphere of mankind...i think it might even influance planets
[10:34] <obany> ojabun: check the topic please ..
[10:34] <ojabun> if this comet it coming...than it just another effect
[10:34] <obany> in my opinion .. .. your are spitting a bunch of crap in this channel wich is not related to this channel  right now
[10:35] <obany> !topic
[10:35] <ojabun> ah,you don't understand me
[10:36] <ojabun> how is one ever gonna get entlighted if ppl do not even tolerate differences
[10:36] <rstefdc> 3 plane crashes in one day....bunch of whales beached everywhere.....
[10:36] <rstefdc> is it related to magnetic pole changes?
[10:37] <ojabun> magnetic pole changes is an effect,not cause
[10:37] <ojabun> the cause is ourselves blocking growth
[10:38] <obany> get lost and shut up ... this is not the place for it ..
[10:38] <obany> en het maakt me niet uit of je een Hollander bent of niet
[10:38] <obany> !ban ojabun
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[10:39] <obany> !kick ojabun
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[10:39] <DRGREEN> hello queen.
[10:40] <QueenVee> hello
[10:40] <QueenVee> how's it going?
[10:40] <DRGREEN> allright. My little finger has completely stopped hurting, fortunately.
[10:40] <QueenVee> good
[10:40] <DRGREEN> 3 weeks left.
[10:40] <QueenVee> my entire body hurts
[10:40] <DRGREEN> Then I can finally play 3dshooters!
[10:41] <DRGREEN> why?
[10:41] <DRGREEN> what's wrong?
[10:41] <QueenVee> i've had a trying 24 hours....
[10:41] <QueenVee> drove to toronto with my cousin last night to pick up my new dog....
[10:41] <DRGREEN> tiring?
[10:41] <QueenVee> caught caught in a blizzard....
[10:41] <DRGREEN> oh jeez
[10:41] <QueenVee> finally got home with the dog quite late....
[10:41] <QueenVee> the dog tried to kill our cat....
[10:42] <DRGREEN> oh no!
[10:42] <QueenVee> mad chase all over the apartment, a lamp knocked over and broken
[10:42] <DRGREEN> so, I guess they do not get along as well as you hoped.
[10:42] <QueenVee> my mother is not very happy
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[10:42] <QueenVee> i've been out with the dog on very long walk/runs today, twice....
[10:43] <QueenVee> and i'm tired from that
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[10:43] <DRGREEN> But what about the dog? Are you gonna quarantine him (from the cat)?
[10:43] <QueenVee> no, i see things like this as a problem to be solved....
[10:43] <QueenVee> luckily my mother went out today...
[10:44] <QueenVee> which allowed me to climatize them to each other....
[10:44] <QueenVee> dog in living room with me, on a short leash tied to the couch
[10:44] <DRGREEN> did it work?
[10:44] <QueenVee> cat allowed to run free in the living room, but not leave the living room
[10:45] <QueenVee> everytime the dog went for the cat, he was punished
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[10:45] <QueenVee> after a while he didn't go after the cat anymore
[10:45] <DRGREEN> hope that works.
[10:45] <DRGREEN> aha
[10:45] <QueenVee> and the cat got bolder....
[10:45] <QueenVee> came out of his corner....
[10:45] <DRGREEN> he leashed out?
[10:45] <QueenVee> sat up on top of the stereo to study the dog
[10:46] <DRGREEN> animal behavior, I love it.
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[10:46] <QueenVee> right now the cat is still on the stereo, watching the dog, about 4 feet from the dog, who is lying at my feet, still tethered to the couch
[10:46] <DRGREEN> hello ojabun.
[10:46] <DRGREEN> :)
[10:46] <DRGREEN> you cannot sleep?
[10:46] <QueenVee> we shall see
[10:46] <DRGREEN> have to watch all day?
[10:46] <ojabun> hey..queenvee didn't talk about topic,she didn't get banned
[10:46] <QueenVee> well, i don't normally sleep during the day
[10:46] <DRGREEN> hehe
[10:47] <QueenVee> ojabun: what brings you to this room>/
[10:47] <DRGREEN> QV is the master of this channel.
[10:47] <QueenVee> (by the way, it's my channel; i can talk about anything i want)
[10:47] <ojabun> hey hey...howcome i get banned givin my vision on the changes..but they not talking about cats?
[10:47] <humvee> good day QueenVee isa it sunny in ur area
[10:48] <ojabun> well,i just got banned saying it's mankind own fauld that the earth will flip...cause we didn't get entlighted
[10:48] <QueenVee> no, kinda clouded over....
[10:48] <QueenVee> but mild
[10:48] <QueenVee> ojabun: what would you like to talk about?
[10:48] <humvee> better than snow u know
[10:48] <ojabun> entlightment
[10:49] <QueenVee> ojabun: not the subject of this channel
[10:49] <QueenVee> do you want to talk about the poleshift?
[10:49] <DRGREEN> ojabun, this channel is intended for discussions about preparation for the shift as described by ZT.
[10:49] <QueenVee> preparation for the poleshift?
[10:49] <QueenVee> Ojabun: please note:
[10:49] <ojabun> well,what better preperation than enlightment
[10:49] <QueenVee>  'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[10:49] <humvee> QV have u heard anything from the viewing re: up coming px pic postings?
[10:49] <QueenVee> humvee: no, nothing at all....
[10:50] <humvee> ok thks
[10:50] <DRGREEN> If you do not believe ZT's vision on the changes, please, visit another channel.
[10:50] <QueenVee> ojabun: in what way do you disagree with ZetaTalk?
[10:50] <ojabun> i feel the changes myself
[10:50] <DRGREEN> enlightment, ojabun, of course.
[10:50] <ojabun> i don't disagree at all
[10:51] <ojabun> i think nancy is very real
[10:51] <DRGREEN> but too late now, mankind screwed up big time.
[10:51] <ojabun> and she so brave
[10:51] <ojabun> yes green
[10:51] <ojabun> there was supposed to be an entlighter dude
[10:51] <ojabun> but if i may...
[10:52] <ojabun> nostradamus has also predicted this all...and very sharp
[10:52] <DRGREEN> So, there's no way of us avoiding the shift. Of course enlightment is on it's way, the vibes are indeed changing.
[10:52] <ojabun> and he says there will be entlightment..but he indeed says 'the guy so much expected...the guy too late'
[10:52] <DRGREEN> But for humanity to be enlightened as a whole, we need the shift to change our priorities.
[10:53] <ojabun> no..all you need is the univicationanswer and be on telly
[10:53] <DRGREEN> you mean?
[10:53] <QueenVee> ojabun: you believe there's a way for us to avoid the shift?
[10:54] <ojabun> i guess not anymore
[10:54] <DRGREEN> probably not. And you're right in saying it's our fault, it is.
[10:54] <QueenVee> so how will "enlightenment" going to help us prepare for the poleshift?
[10:54] <ojabun> only since 2001 or so i'm afraid earth will flip....before that i was afraid of ww3 when entlightment would come
[10:55] <DRGREEN> If we matured faster, we would have been in 4th density now already.
[10:55] <ojabun> it will make you superman..entlightment
[10:55] <QueenVee> so? how will that affect the poleshift?
[10:55] <DRGREEN> haha
[10:55] <ojabun> i just explained that all and got banned for it
[10:55] <QueenVee> well, explain it to me
[10:55] <ojabun> well,maybe obany is just bit stressed
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[10:56] <ojabun> ok i try
[10:56] <ojabun> for all ic...is simply the course of cause and effect
[10:56] <humvee> how would a geological event b avoided by ur mental state  of mind - what did I miss?
[10:56] <QueenVee> yeah, PlanetX will be passing, and the effect wiill be a poleshift
[10:57] <ojabun> there two rules of beeing...one is continue growth,and the other is cause and effect...based on the perfect middle
[10:57] <QueenVee> cause: PlanetX / effect: Poleshift
[10:57] <ojabun> i say different
[10:57] <QueenVee> well, then you disagree with ZetaTalk
[10:57] <ojabun> no i don't
[10:57] <ojabun> i dissagree on cause and effect...
[10:57] <QueenVee> because ZT says it is simply a natural event, not a punishment, not the result of human action or inaction
[10:58] <ojabun> maybe they are just beeing nice
[10:58] <DRGREEN> Humvee, ZT stated that if mankind matured faster, our planet would have ascended to fourth density before the shift.
[10:58] <humvee> Ojabun - I am budist n chant law o cause n effect - I get clearer that reality is upon us.
[10:58] <DRGREEN> now, that is becoming quite unlikely, since we only have a couple of months left.
[10:58] <QueenVee> ojabun: well, this s a channel for people who believe that the zetas are being straight with us
[10:59] <ojabun> they also say there are gay zeta's...well that just to be kind
[10:59] <QueenVee> ojabun: how do you know that?
[10:59] <ojabun> i believe in aliens,i had contact myself
[10:59] <ojabun> it's impossible to be gay and also entlighted
[10:59] <humvee> yes - that would hav been nice - but now ppl seem 2 suggest that we can will it away
[10:59] <QueenVee> uh oh
[10:59] <DRGREEN> no ojabun.
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[10:59] * ojabun was kicked by QueenVee (no homophobes allowed)
[11:00] <DRGREEN> true love is about souls, not sexuality.
[11:00] <DRGREEN> ph, guess he missed that.
[11:00] <QueenVee> christ, people think they're "enlightened", and still think homosexuality is a sin....
[11:00] <humvee> soulophobic
[11:00] <DRGREEN> yeah.
[11:00] <DRGREEN> really strange.
[11:01] <humvee> reality has now struck and hav 2 goto work thanks 4 the wake up CHAT - bye
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[11:04] <DRGREEN> so queen, is the cat still observing?
[11:04] <obaway> i see you banned him again ...
[11:04] <DRGREEN> :)
[11:05] <DRGREEN> vague character...
[11:05] <QueenVee> what an asshole
[11:05] <QueenVee> DrGreen: so far, so good
[11:06] <DRGREEN> hey obany, I'm gonna try to arrange everything this weekend, so maybe I'll have my pics next week!
[11:06] <DRGREEN> I cannot wait.
[11:06] <DRGREEN> Hope there's something on them.
[11:06] <obaway> green: okay okay ... do you follow tt-forum also by any chance?
[11:07] <DRGREEN> yes.
[11:07] <DRGREEN> johnnybaksteen ja.
[11:07] <obaway> did you read the email by that compose guy
[11:07] <DRGREEN> ?
[11:08] <DRGREEN> I did read something funny, proof of the debunkers pretending to be more than one person.
[11:08] <obaway> green: yes and i check it kinda
[11:08] <obaway> howmo is using the same ISP or so as yadayada
[11:08] <DRGREEN> hehe, nice sci-astro comments from zt to jim.
[11:08] <obaway> and howmo is also Idon't on the Usenet
[11:09] <DRGREEN> yaaada
[11:09] <DRGREEN> yes, I figured. Fake fools. Why the trouble?
[11:09] <DRGREEN> If I read all those posts, I gather that's what they do all day, posting!
[11:14] <obaway> green: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-forum/message/6861
[11:16] <QueenVee> green: yes, one does get that impression
[11:16] <QueenVee> a strange obsession to have
[11:16] <QueenVee> spending all that time and energy on something you don't believe in
[11:16] <DRGREEN> noce, but I gather it was Saturn, as predicted by media. nort-east of Orion to south-west of Taurus.
[11:16] <DRGREEN> nice
[11:19] <obaway>  green that's why i say i doubt it's the Planet, but did you red the closed until May comment
[11:21] <DRGREEN> yes, here I also contacted two observaqtory's, closed until summer.
[11:21] <DRGREEN> yet, Himitsu does not believe this and says this is nonsense.
[11:22] <obaway> And then Steve with that observatory he visited at first
[11:22] <obaway> also closed
[11:22] <DRGREEN> In frontier magazine, last issue, it was stated that from summer 2002 to summer 2003 60% of worldwide observatories are closed for vague reasons.
[11:23] <obaway> and i am pretty sure what that reason is
[11:23] <obaway> that vague reason
[11:24] <DRGREEN> yes, me too. yet, Himitsu and others say not so!
[11:24] <DRGREEN> they even callede me liar and said I made it up.
[11:25] <DRGREEN> then I said "no, just check the frontier magazine, it says so there!"
[11:25] <RNTHOMAS> I talked to Steve when I visited is place, he tried at least 3 observatories, all are down...
[11:25] <RNTHOMAS> Usually being repaired...
[11:26] <DRGREEN> then they said "well, that's just a magazine"
[11:27] <DRGREEN> well, the newspaper is just the newspaper, science is jusy science, bush is just bush. It became clear to me that such people like Himitsu believe what they want, and ignore the rest.
[11:27] <DRGREEN> wishfull thinking.
[11:27] <obaway> himitsu also posts on sci.astro ...
[11:27] <obaway> ehehe
[11:27] <DRGREEN> I know.
[11:27] <obaway> see the postings about Nancy's adress
[11:28] <obaway> talking about going there .. and having a starparty bla bla
[11:28] <obaway> in June or so
[11:28] <DRGREEN> yes, I read.
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[11:30] <DRGREEN> well, I guess I'm having the same problems as Steve, lucky for us Arnierosnier is there!
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[11:32] <DRGREEN> http://www.arnierosner.com/are/index.htm
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[11:32] <DRGREEN> hello juzvuke
[11:32] <juzvuke> hi
[11:33] <DRGREEN> what brings you here? do you visit this channel often?
[11:33] <juzvuke> it's first time then i'm here
[11:34] <DRGREEN> What are you hoping to find here?
[11:35] <juzvuke> well i don't know:)
[11:35] <DRGREEN> This channel is filled with morrons who truly believe that extraterrestrials have visited our planet!
[11:35] <DRGREEN> can you imagine ;o)
[11:39] <obaway> i will return later
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[11:39] <QueenVee> hello Juzvuke
[11:39] <QueenVee> juz: how long have you been aware of the coming poleshift and zetatalk?
[11:40] <QueenVee> juzvuke: ARE YOU THERE?
[11:41] <juzvuke> yes
[11:41] <QueenVee> juz: how long have you been aware of the coming poleshift and zetatalk?
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[11:51] <Dsarith> I back
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[11:51] <Dsarith> Hi yggdras
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[12:53] <Danvaldan> hi all!
[12:54] <Danvaldan> I think everyone is 'away'
[12:55] <Danvaldan> catch you all LaTeR
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[13:09] <miguel-work> \nick miguel
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[13:09] <miguel> good bye
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[13:12] <Humor> UFO helps Earth population by shooting down astroid-November 1, 2002...They continue to try to help before Pole Shift.
[13:13] <Humor> www.siriusufo.org/engnews/haber/htm
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[13:14] <ruready> Hello, I am a new member from Quincy, Illinois USA!
[13:14] <Humor> Welcome!
[13:14] <Humor> What brings you here?
[13:16] <ruready> I have, for quite a while, been working to get ready for "something"... Y2k, Armageddon, Polar Shift, Edgar Cayce, Paul Solomon, etc... Have done quite a bit, but look forward to new info & ideas
[13:17] <Humor> Read ZetaTalk and Trouble Times.  That will give you what you are looking for.  
[13:17] <ruready> Let me ask... If we are looking at a 90d poleshift, any idea where the new magnetic north now shifting?
[13:18] <Humor> This information is listed in www.zetatalk.com
[13:18] <ruready> Thanks...
[13:19] <Humor> Great site that will answer almost all your questions.  After you read all the info....join us on our saturday chat sessions.
[13:19] <Humor> Lot's of support here..ruready
[13:19] <ruready> Have already opened it in a new window... Will be back - Thanks!
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[14:02] <QueenVee> hello insomnia
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[14:04] <InSoMniaC420> Hey
[14:04] <reticuli> hello
[14:04] <QueenVee> hi ret
[14:04] <QueenVee> how go the classes?
[14:04] <reticuli> they start on monday
[14:05] <reticuli> ah, say goodbye to free time
[14:05] <QueenVee> ah....
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[14:12] <QueenVee> hi PGill
[14:12] <PGill> hello
[14:12] <reticuli> so instead of getting my books today or tommorow I will receive them on monday
[14:12] <reticuli> hello
[14:13] <reticuli> walmart has a much better ecommerce site
[14:13] <QueenVee> really?
[14:13] <reticuli> yeah, the site was as easy to use and they sent the books out within hours
[14:13] <QueenVee> fortunate for you
[14:14] <reticuli> yes, well it will help to have a couple of books anyway
[14:16] <reticuli> george orwell could take a lesson in doublespeak from barnes and noble
[14:16] <obaway> hi
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[14:16] <reticuli> greetings
[14:22] <obany> greetings
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[14:35] <elwood> Hey Queen.  I see your webpage has changed visible to the naked eye during daytime, to omit the word daytime.
[14:35] <QueenVee> elwood: why do you keep coming here?
[14:35] <elwood> To aggravate you.
[14:35] <elwood> :)
[14:36] <QueenVee> wow. get a life, man.
[14:36] <elwood> We'll all see how silly you all are in a couple months.
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[14:36] * elwood was kicked by QueenVee (elwood)
[14:36] <obany> sigh
[14:36] <reticuli> elwood = 'i need attention'
[14:36] <QueenVee> i guess so...
[14:37] <obany> he is one of the si.castro guys
[14:37] <obany> sci.astro
[14:37] <QueenVee> mind boggling
[14:37] <RNTHOMAS> I noticed the Ban list is gettin kinda large here...
[14:37] <QueenVee> yeah, well, it gets wiped clean every saturday
[14:38] <QueenVee> wouldn't worry your pretty little head about it
[14:38] <obany> QueenVee: uuuh i wanted to ban someoene this afternoon
[14:38] <obany> and it said to me
[14:38] <obany> banlist is ful l
[14:38] <QueenVee> so you should have deleted some
[14:38] <obany> so i did
[14:39] <RNTHOMAS> Ya almost need to track the problem people by IP numbers...
[14:39] <RNTHOMAS> Then just NUKE em at the class C level...
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[14:39] <RNTHOMAS> Many times people can get a new IP number, but they can only live in about 2-3 class C's...
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[14:43] <obany> enough now .....
[14:44] <reticuli> queen, did you say that you were picking up your dog today? whats his name?
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[14:52] * juditness is away.. i get it. bye. [mail: judit@geekychick.org] at 23:54:13
[14:56] <QueenVee> sorry, ret, i had to step away
[14:56] <QueenVee> are you still there?
[14:56] <reticuli> yeah, np
[14:56] <QueenVee> yes, we got the dog last night, and he's a pip
[14:57] <QueenVee> except he's not quite what i thought i was getting
[14:57] <reticuli> a pip?
[14:57] <QueenVee> i was told he was a beagle, but he is in fact a harrier hound
[14:57] <reticuli> hmmm
[14:57] <QueenVee> bigger than a beagle, smaller than a fox hound
[14:57] <QueenVee> his name's Harry
[14:58] <QueenVee> very affectionate, very active
[14:58] <reticuli> well im sure you wont hold it against him, being a harrier hound and not a beagle
[14:58] <QueenVee> no,but my mother does....
[14:58] <QueenVee> she thinks he's too big for our apartment
[14:59] <reticuli> hmm, how big is the place?
[14:59] <QueenVee> so she's not a happy camper right now
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[14:59] <QueenVee> but Harry and i went for a couple of really long outings in the wooded area near our place today, he had quite a workout
[14:59] <reticuli> im sure he is pleased as can be
[15:00] <reticuli> how old again?
[15:00] <QueenVee> 3 years
[15:00] <reticuli> they look like handsome dogs
[15:00] <QueenVee> there's lots of wildlife in that area, so he was in his element, tracking rabbits....
[15:01] <reticuli> he must have quite a keen sense of smell
[15:01] <QueenVee> oh yeah
[15:01] <QueenVee> but he's a big cuddle-bug
[15:01] <reticuli> i always wondered how it would feel to have my primary sensory modality be smell
[15:02] <QueenVee> indeed
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[15:02] <QueenVee> they are able to detect such subtle variances in odors
[15:02] <reticuli> well congratulations, hopefully your mother will grom fond of him
[15:02] <reticuli> grom=grow
[15:02] <QueenVee> oh, i'm sure she will.... eventually....
[15:03] <QueenVee> she's kinda sulking right now
[15:03] <reticuli> did i tell you that one of my feline beasts had an abcess
[15:03] <reticuli> lol
[15:03] <QueenVee> yeah you mentioned that
[15:03] <QueenVee> how is she now?
[15:04] <reticuli> he's doing allright... I'm going to take him back in on monday to get his tubes removed.... He's been really testy this time with the treatments
[15:04] <QueenVee> poor little thing
[15:05] <reticuli> no more late nights for him
[15:05] <QueenVee> well, i have to take advantage of my mother being in the laundry room to put a few nails in the wall....
[15:05] <QueenVee> be back in a bit
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[15:27] <obany> hi tie
[15:27] <tied> hello
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[15:29] <obany> hello mio
[15:29] <mio> hello
[15:30] <obany> your first time in this channel /?
[15:30] <mio> ki van itt magyar?
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[15:35] <juditness> :O
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[15:41] * Topic is 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
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[15:52] <obany> wb
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[16:05] <GalacticExplorer> Hello
[16:05] <reticuli> howdy
[16:05] <GalacticExplorer> I am well
[16:05] <reticuli> glad to hear it
[16:06] <GalacticExplorer> How are the things reticuli?
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[16:06] <reticuli> pretty good
[16:06] <reticuli> im at work still so they could get better
[16:06] <GalacticExplorer> I hope you have interesting worl
[16:06] <GalacticExplorer> work
[16:07] <tied> hello ya all
[16:07] <West_coast> hello
[16:07] <reticuli> not really, its pretty wrote, but I cant complain
[16:07] <GalacticExplorer> Hello
[16:07] <GalacticExplorer> what do you do reticuli?
[16:08] <reticuli> at the moment I am entering some of the shows from this page into our database http://kkbq.com/about_us/personalities.html
[16:08] <GalacticExplorer> by the way. where is QueenVee? she is out for third day I think
[16:09] <reticuli> she is putting some nails into her wall
[16:09] <GalacticExplorer> decorating her house?
[16:10] <reticuli> not sure, thats all she said
[16:10] <reticuli> she has been here today
[16:10] <GalacticExplorer> reticuli are you working for the radio?
[16:10] <GalacticExplorer> radio station
[16:10] <reticuli> nope
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[16:11] <GalacticExplorer> why do you need those shows then?
[16:11] <reticuli> I am going through all the radio web pages in the US and extracting valuable data for a national database that is used in the majority of 411 (directory assistance) calls from cell phones
[16:12] <GalacticExplorer> oh ok.
[16:12] <reticuli> at the moment i am working on radio
[16:12] <reticuli> r u in the us?
[16:12] <GalacticExplorer> yes I am in colorado
[16:12] <reticuli> do you own a cell phone?
[16:12] <GalacticExplorer> nope
[16:13] <GalacticExplorer> don't want my brain fried :-)
[16:13] <reticuli> yeah, I dont either. but if you did you could call 411 and find out what events are going on in colorado
[16:13] <reticuli> like concerts, poetry readings etc
[16:14] <GalacticExplorer> Ummmmm, I know about one thing called newspaper. Use it sometimes
[16:14] <GalacticExplorer> I was thinking about getting cell phone
[16:14] <GalacticExplorer> but don't know what service to use
[16:15] <reticuli> its all a rip off
[16:15] <reticuli> course it does my pay bills
[16:16] <GalacticExplorer> More people are buying service and phones now
[16:17] <reticuli> no surprise, humanity is ceaseless in its acquisition of technologies that by appealing to our base nature, become addictive and indipensible
[16:17] <GalacticExplorer> latest cell phone has everything in it personal computer, radio, internet capability and other stuff
[16:17] <GalacticExplorer> I agree with you
[16:18] <reticuli> now, if the cell phones could only provide a brain for the user.....
[16:18] <reticuli> oh well, give em time
[16:18] <scooby-atwork> same for the PC
[16:18] <GalacticExplorer> :-)
[16:18] <scooby-atwork> lol @ reti
[16:18] <GalacticExplorer> scooby Hi!
[16:19] <reticuli> what do you do scooby?
[16:19] <scooby-atwork> ISP tech support
[16:19] <scooby-atwork> LOL
[16:19] <scooby-atwork> really
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[16:19] <obany> wb green
[16:19] <DRGREEN> hello
[16:20] <reticuli> poor thing, I hate having to deal with the public
[16:20] <obany> you wish to say something green ? :)
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[16:20] <GalacticExplorer> Hello DRGREEN
[16:20] <DRGREEN> oops, I'm going again, bye all.
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[16:20] <reticuli> especially on the phone, people are emboldened by the distance and safety of a phone conversation and feel like they can get away with being rude assholes
[16:20] <reticuli> sort of like IRC
[16:20] <scooby-atwork> lol
[16:21] <scooby-atwork> but they are for the most part idiots
[16:21] <Queen-away> i find people are more rude on email than on the phone
[16:21] <scooby-atwork> QV: you ever work for the big bad cable company?
[16:21] <GalacticExplorer> customer is always right
[16:21] <scooby-atwork> LOL
[16:21] <reticuli> queen, your not talking about px related email r u?
[16:21] <GalacticExplorer> at least they think that!
[16:22] <scooby-atwork> yeah there is there is that "anonymity" aspect of email
[16:22] <reticuli> what I find so outrageous is the restaurant industry. Within the restaurant you have this feudal microcosm where the petite bourgeoise feel like because they are going to spend money the help has to take all their crap.
[16:23] <reticuli> the customer feels like they can be rude boors becasue they are spending money
[16:23] <scooby-atwork> yeah
[16:23] <scooby-atwork> same here
[16:23] <scooby-atwork> I spend so much goddamned money on this service and it doesn't work
[16:23] <scooby-atwork> and the problem often turns out to be on thier equipment
[16:23] <scooby-atwork> but enough about me ....
[16:24] <reticuli> most people have no idea what kind of acts of revenge occur in the kitchen
[16:24] <GalacticExplorer> I worked for the food industry once ... that was enough for me
[16:24] <GalacticExplorer> he he he I know
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[16:25] <GalacticExplorer> No sir this drink color IS yellow!
[16:26] <reticuli> i rememeber this guy I worked with at KFC when I was in high school, he would also spit up a phelgm ball on the 'chicken little" sandwichs and cover it up with a bunch o mayo. No one ever noticed
[16:26] <reticuli> also=always
[16:26] <scooby-atwork> thanks for sharing
[16:26] <reticuli> that job was utter chaos
[16:26] <reticuli> lol
[16:26] <scooby-atwork> glad I don't eat chicken
[16:27] <reticuli> where do you live scooby?
[16:27] <scooby-atwork> san diego
[16:27] <reticuli> ah, what a great towm
[16:28] <reticuli> i used to live there
[16:28] <scooby-atwork> where r u now?
[16:28] <reticuli> seattle
[16:28] <scooby-atwork> thought so
[16:28] <GalacticExplorer> do you have good weather in san diego?
[16:28] <scooby-atwork> uh, yeah...
[16:28] <scooby-atwork> LOL
[16:28] <reticuli> hehe
[16:29] <scooby-atwork> look up sunshine in the dictionary
[16:29] <reticuli> isnt it like the best weather in the US
[16:29] <reticuli> I got sick of the sunshine when I lived there, thats how nice it was
[16:29] <GalacticExplorer> nice
[16:30] <GalacticExplorer> its kind of cold here in colorado
[16:30] <GalacticExplorer> no snow yet
[16:32] <scooby-atwork> brb....
[16:32] <scooby-atwork> in the meantime...
[16:32] <scooby-atwork> SITUATION: lost connection since new intsall
[16:32] <scooby-atwork> doh!
[16:33] <scooby-atwork> http://haywoodjahelpme.com
[16:33] <scooby-atwork> my blog
[16:34] <reticuli> lol scooby
[16:37] <reticuli> are you preparing for the poleshift galactic?
[16:37] <scooby-atwork> ty
[16:39] <GalacticExplorer> yes sort of
[16:39] <GalacticExplorer> I am fully prepared mentally
[16:39] <GalacticExplorer> my family not prepared
[16:40] <GalacticExplorer> friends aren't interested in Pole Shift subject
[16:41] <GalacticExplorer> I do have basic skills on how to survive in the woods
[16:41] <GalacticExplorer> preparing myself not to eat for long time
[16:41] * Queen-away is now known as QueenVee
[16:41] <GalacticExplorer> what about you?
[16:41] <QueenVee> Galactic: yeah, but they're not going to be the same woods....
[16:41] <reticuli> I havent done much preparation
[16:42] <GalacticExplorer> Queen what do you mean?
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[16:42] <QueenVee> well, people will say, i know all about how to survive in the wilds, live off the land -- without taking into account that the foods and resources they would normally find there won't be there after the shift.....
[16:43] <QueenVee> the aftertime is more than just surviving in the woods, is what i'm saying....
[16:43] <QueenVee> hello Mad
[16:43] <Mad_Hatter> Greetings Queen
[16:43] <West_coast> hello QV
[16:43] <QueenVee> hi WC
[16:44] <QueenVee> my new dog is lying beside me with his head resting on my arm....
[16:44] <West_coast> cool
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[16:44] <West_coast> what is his name?
[16:44] <QueenVee> harry
[16:44] <ukuz> :)
[16:44] <scooby-atwork> ah contentment
[16:45] <scooby-atwork> hello ukuz
[16:45] <scooby-atwork> QV: as in Potter?
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[16:45] <ukuz> :)
[16:45] <QueenVee> well, he came with that name -- i suspect he was given that name because he's a Harrier Hound....
[16:45] <ukuz> hi
[16:45] <GalacticExplorer> Queen: I know how to build basic shelter, food will be hard to find, but we'll see what happens
[16:45] <QueenVee> aloha ukuz
[16:45] <ukuz> hello QV
[16:45] <ukuz> QV, delegating today?
[16:46] <ukuz> hehe
[16:46] <West_coast> QV: what happened to beagle?
[16:46] <QueenVee> ??
[16:46] <ukuz> (not sitting on the throne...)
[16:46] <ukuz> :)
[16:46] <ukuz> (atop...)
[16:46] <scooby-atwork> @
[16:46] <QueenVee> WC: lol, well, the woman i dealt with THOUGHT he was a beagle....
[16:46] <QueenVee> but he's not
[16:46] <West_coast> oops
[16:47] <QueenVee> he's a harrier hound, which is bigger than a beagle and smaller than a foxhound
[16:47] <QueenVee> he's a very handsome fellow
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[16:47] <ukuz> ahhh a hound....
[16:47] <ukuz> :)
[16:47] <scooby-atwork> lol
[16:48] <ukuz> Lots of extra skin has he?
[16:48] <GalacticExplorer> Queen you got a new dog? Congratulations!
[16:48] <ukuz> :)
[16:48] <QueenVee> thanks
[16:48] <QueenVee> he's a beaut -- even if he is bigger than i expected
[16:48] <QueenVee> my mother kinda freaked
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[16:49] <QueenVee> but she's getting reconciled to him now, because he's such a big suck....
[16:50] <ukuz> minature version of a Blood?Hound
[16:50] <GalacticExplorer> Do you have a name for your dog yet?
[16:50] <ukuz> ?
[16:51] <West_coast> will be back later, C U
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[16:51] <reticuli> queen, do you know anything about harrry's history?
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[16:52] <QueenVee> reticuli: he was abandoned
[16:53] <QueenVee> an organization in toronto called ADOPT A DOG, SAVE A LIFE, rescued him from being euthenized
[16:53] <reticuli> poor guy
[16:53] <QueenVee> so he's grateful to have a good home
[16:53] <reticuli> i bet
[16:54] <QueenVee> he was named harry when i got him
[16:54] <scooby-atwork> is he?
[16:54] <scooby-atwork> hairy, that is
[16:54] <QueenVee> and it seems to suit him. it's the kind of name i would give to a dog
[16:54] <scooby-atwork> : )
[16:54] <QueenVee> lol
[16:54] <QueenVee> not Harry, as in Harrier Hound
[16:54] <scooby-atwork> : )
[16:54] <QueenVee> and Harrier, as in Harrier Hound, means a Hare Hunter
[16:56] <QueenVee> here's a picture and description of the Harrier Hound, for anyone who's interested: http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/harrier.cfm
[16:56] <GalacticExplorer> I think you said you had other animals in your house Queen?
[16:56] <GalacticExplorer> Do they get along?
[16:56] <QueenVee> yeah, a cat named Angel
[16:57] <QueenVee> well, Angel absolutely ADORED Ben, but Ben was a very sedate dog who completely ignored her
[16:57] <QueenVee> Harry, on the other hand, thinks she is a fun little thing to chase....
[16:57] <QueenVee> which she doesn't appreciate
[16:57] <QueenVee> so they're working it out
[16:57] <GalacticExplorer> Oh I see.
[16:58] <reticuli> one good swipe and he'll chill out prolly
[16:58] <QueenVee> i think they'll eventually be friends
[16:59] <scooby-atwork> lol
[16:59] <scooby-atwork> it only takes one
[17:00] <GalacticExplorer> What is the age of a cat and a dog? if you don't mind me asking of course.
[17:00] <scooby-atwork> that is not a beagle in that picture
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[17:02] <QueenVee> dog is 3, cat is 4
[17:02] <QueenVee> my other dog, Ben, was 16
[17:02] <GalacticExplorer> still young, so they have good chance to be friends
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[17:02] <Mugada> G'day all
[17:03] <GalacticExplorer> if the cat was old though, dog would be in trouble ....
[17:03] <QueenVee> well, the cat is very playful and curious, so i know she's going to come around....
[17:03] <ukuz> the breed sort of looks like a Jack Russel Terrier  :)
[17:03] <QueenVee> uh.... that would be an awfully big Jack Russel...
[17:03] <ukuz> hehe
[17:04] <ukuz> just say, "i fed him Alpo"
[17:04] <ukuz> :)
[17:04] <ukuz> Do you all have Alpo up there in Canada?
[17:05] <ukuz> :D
[17:05] <QueenVee> like that commercial "Must be the Puppy Chow"....
[17:06] <ukuz> they love the wet and dry mix together...
[17:06] <QueenVee> here's what a beagle looks like, they have very similar features, but are much smaller: http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/beagle.cfm
[17:06] <QueenVee> ukuz: yeah, that's what i always fed my dogs, dry and wet
[17:09] <GalacticExplorer> Our cats eat everything
[17:09] <GalacticExplorer> cheese, sour cream, fish, meat
[17:09] <GalacticExplorer> and their food sometimes
[17:09] <ukuz> :)
[17:10] <scooby-atwork> lol
[17:12] <GalacticExplorer> my sister has iguana\
[17:12] <Mugada> there good tucker too
[17:12] <GalacticExplorer> little note: Don't put your finger in iguanas fase, it will bite you
[17:13] * obany goes now ... late again and i woke up like 6:00am this morning or so and it's now .heheh 2:12am
[17:13] <QueenVee> nite obany
[17:13] <obany> nite
[17:13] <scooby-atwork> nite
[17:13] <obany> bye and later
[17:13] <obany> s
[17:13] <scooby-atwork> see ya when i get home....
[17:13] <scooby-atwork> : )
[17:13] <GalacticExplorer> bye
[17:13] <ukuz> Welterusten Obany
[17:14] <obany> i guess so scobby thnx ukuz
[17:14] <obany> bye
[17:14] <QueenVee> well, i gotta go and walk the hound -- be back later
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[17:14] <ukuz> or maybe the other way around?  :)
[17:14] <ukuz> hehe
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[17:16] <reticuli> later ppl
[17:16] <reticuli> its quitting time
[17:16] <GalacticExplorer> Bye retic
[17:16] <Mugada> midday here
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[17:26] <Ixtalan> hello all
[17:26] <scooby-atwork> hello
[17:27] <GalacticExplorer> hello
[17:27] <Ixtalan> I survived last night...
[17:27] <Ixtalan> it was not bad....
[17:27] <Ixtalan> got to  do some channeling....
[17:28] <Ixtalan> not too many people out
[17:28] <Ixtalan> nice a quite
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[17:34] <JFull> Hi anybody here?
[17:34] <GalacticExplorer> yes
[17:34] <JFull> have you seen humvee on lately?
[17:35] <JFull> thought I could catch him
[17:35] <GalacticExplorer> nope
[17:36] <JFull> I'll just hang for a while to see if he comes on
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[17:43] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O ?
[17:44] <Ogmios> hi zetapal
[17:44] <Zetapal> Hi Og
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[17:46] <Ogmios> this winter here can be a lot colder than in 1987
[17:46] <Ogmios> which was extreme cold
[17:47] <Ogmios> no talk about greenhouse affect :)
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[17:50] <QueenVee> oh... my... god....
[17:50] <QueenVee> i haven't had this much exercise for a long time....
[17:50] <Ogmios> hi Queen
[17:50] <scooby-atwork> getting in shape for the pole shift?
[17:50] <scooby-atwork> : )
[17:51] <GalacticExplorer> Queen dogs are best teachers in that case :-)
[17:52] <Mad_Hatter> Brain fart: Swimming pools > Drain, secure with water-tight cover (dome?), add hatch, vent, supplies... ect > a backyard shelter...lotta storage room.
[17:52] <Ogmios> do ppl burn churches in north america?
[17:52] <Ogmios> it happen to be case here..and in norway
[17:53] <Ogmios> one guy got 5 year sentence for it
[17:53] <GalacticExplorer> Mad what if you don't have swimming pool? Dig it up?
[17:53] <Mad_Hatter> Then cross off that idea...
[17:54] <GalacticExplorer> Actually it is good idea to hide from falling meteors in the water
[17:54] <GalacticExplorer> water kind of slows things down
[17:54] <Mad_Hatter> Hang on... I'll think of a better one...
[17:56] <GalacticExplorer> Fill up your pool with water, get many air baloons, cover pool with wood, put hooks on the bottom of a pool so you don't float away
[17:57] <scooby-atwork> gettting creative...
[17:57] <GalacticExplorer> oh yes, and were just getting started
[17:57] <Mad_Hatter> Ok...just flip the pool over and sit under it and pray
[17:58] <GalacticExplorer> how do you get in once you flip it, and how do you get out?
[17:58] <scooby-atwork> hmm... a very practical question
[17:58] <scooby-atwork> cut a door?
[17:58] <JFull> I have a global oriention question?  anyone?
[17:59] <scooby-atwork> try us
[17:59] <GalacticExplorer> go ahead
[17:59] <JFull> I have a globe and reset it to India as South Pole
[18:00] <JFull> North pose should be near Barizal right
[18:00] <GalacticExplorer> yes
[18:00] <GalacticExplorer> if you meant Brazilia
[18:01] <JFull> but on the globe it lines up with chile
[18:01] <Ogmios> poor guys freeze to death
[18:01] <JFull> thats ok but
[18:01] <QueenVee> hi jfull
[18:02] <QueenVee> JFull: you're not taking into account the movement of the continents
[18:02] <scooby-atwork> good point
[18:02] <JFull> that sows that here in cent US the directions almost reverse meaning north now south
[18:02] <scooby-atwork> todays globes wont necesarily apply to the aftertime
[18:03] <scooby-atwork> due to plate shifts
[18:03] <JFull> Now West coast will be new se coast
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[18:04] <JFull> I tried to line up parrell lines--new vers old
[18:05] <QueenVee> it's confusing
[18:05] <GalacticExplorer> South America and North America will move WEST Atlantic ocean will be wider
[18:06] <JFull> strangly the now TN -KY is near the same Latitude and it is now.
[18:07] <GalacticExplorer> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p10.htm
[18:07] <Ogmios> can say the hot places will be cold and vice versa
[18:07] <JFull> True
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[18:07] <JFull> mostly
[18:07] <Zetapal> Galactic - pic for you
[18:08] <Ogmios> atleast scandinavia will be hot
[18:08] <Zetapal> idea for surviving shift
[18:08] <QueenVee> hello humor
[18:08] <GalacticExplorer> Zeta ok got it
[18:08] <Zetapal> again
[18:08] <Humor> hello Queen...Good to see you back...Harry settled in yet?
[18:08] <Zetapal> another
[18:08] <JFull> I have the small cut out also of above
[18:09] <QueenVee> oh, my god, is he settled.....
[18:09] <Humor> lol...made himself at home!
[18:09] <QueenVee> his curled up beside me on the couch, sound asleep
[18:10] <GalacticExplorer> Zetapal great pic thanks
[18:10] <Zetapal> now Galactic - thats an actual product sold somewhere - but i forgot the name of the product, cool though huh?
[18:10] <QueenVee> well, even this morning my mother was making noises about how she didn't think she wanted to keep such a large dog in the apartment.... and in the last few hours i've seen this dog completely ingratiate himself to her, and now she's madly in love....
[18:10] <GalacticExplorer> I remember Jackie Chan used it to jump off of a mountain in some movie
[18:11] <GalacticExplorer> using same bubble
[18:11] <Humor> Harry learns fast from Queen I see!
[18:11] <Zetapal> right - its got some funny name - might start with a Z
[18:11] <Humor> Gentle approach works all the time!
[18:12] <Humor> I can picture a dog that know how to get spoiled! lol
[18:13] <QueenVee> cool, zp
[18:13] <GalacticExplorer> How practical is it?
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[18:14] <Humor> Good site for aftertime: indianspringherbs.com/wild_foods_contents.htm  It has great info on wild foods for survival
[18:14] <Zetapal> probably not very Galactic - if there's wind blowin you all over the place - lol
[18:15] <GalacticExplorer> LoL
[18:15] <Zetapal> plus one good puncture and i presume you would deflate
[18:16] <QueenVee> yeah, kinda like  a man's ego....
[18:16] <Zetapal> anyones ego Queen
[18:16] <Zetapal> geez
[18:16] <GalacticExplorer> I think it has several sections in there
[18:16] <Zetapal> man hater - lol
[18:16] <Ogmios> macho culture in america?
[18:17] <Humor> Just attach a string and pretend he's a kite!
[18:17] <Ogmios> we have more feminive..female president and all
[18:17] <Humor> macho culture with a mucho appetite
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[18:21] <West_coast> ogmios: where in the world are you?
[18:21] <Ogmios> finlandia
[18:22] <Ogmios> here in the north
[18:22] <JFull> Queen: Zeta talk tomorrow at 3:30 eastern, right
[18:22] <QueenVee> correct
[18:22] <Ogmios> and winter is cold..colder than normally
[18:22] <JFull> great be back then---or sooner-- by
[18:22] <Ogmios> record cld actually
[18:23] <Ogmios> cold
[18:23] <West_coast> happening in a lot of places
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[18:24] <Ogmios> ppl are afraid of spring becouse of the dryness
[18:24] <West_coast> Lots of dryness in this country too...drought here on the west coast
[18:24] <Mad_Hatter> we are having record warm weather in Arizona along with a statewide drought..
[18:24] <Ogmios> not much rain last year..fewer and fewer
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[18:25] <QueenVee> hello ixtalan
[18:25] <Ixtalan> hello
[18:25] <Ixtalan> Hi Queen Vee
[18:25] <Ixtalan> so whats new?
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[18:27] <QueenVee> well, i'm actually a little behind on the latest news....
[18:27] <West_coast> No snow in the mountains, no irrigation next spring...not that in matters, I guess
[18:27] <QueenVee> been preoccupied with getting my new dog settled...
[18:27] <Ixtalan> fun
[18:27] <QueenVee> hello packerhawk -- what brings you to this room?
[18:27] <Ixtalan> Yeah WEst Coast...Good Point
[18:28] <Mad_Hatter> US worst cold snap in 7 years:  http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20030110_568.html
[18:29] <West_coast> China..coldest temps ever recorded
[18:29] <West_coast> evening news
[18:29] <Ixtalan> wow...
[18:29] <Ixtalan> so severe
[18:29] <Ixtalan> makes sense
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[18:29] <West_coast> bye elwood
[18:31] <West_coast> an "elwood blues" posted to sci.astro...same person?
[18:31] <QueenVee> that guy's been in here twice today....
[18:31] <QueenVee> yep, the very same
[18:31] <Ixtalan> what did he say?
[18:31] <West_coast> posted some personal info about Nancy
[18:31] <QueenVee> i kick him as soon as he comes in, and he keeps coming back
[18:32] <QueenVee> today i said, why do you keep coming here?
[18:32] <Ixtalan> a schill?
[18:32] <QueenVee> he said, i want to tell you how silly you're all going to look in two months
[18:32] <QueenVee> i said, wow, get a life, man
[18:32] <Ixtalan> One way ....or a nother........Ive seen the future baby.....It is murder
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[18:35] <West_coast> QV: Are you stocked up on dog biscuits?
[18:35] <Ixtalan> lol
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[18:36] <QueenVee> WC: you can never have enough dog biscuits
[18:36] <West_coast> My dogs have to have their biscuits
[18:36] <West_coast> morning and night
[18:37] <Ixtalan> learn how to make em
[18:37] <QueenVee> my last dog loved those dried liver treats, and i always meant to try making some of those myself...
[18:38] <Ixtalan> that would work......
[18:38] <West_coast> :)
[18:38] <scooby-atwork> mmmm
[18:38] <scooby-atwork> dried meat
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[18:38] <scooby-atwork> lol
[18:38] <from_Texas> I have made dog treats before
[18:38] <scooby-atwork> someone I know said we need more meats on stick
[18:38] <Ixtalan> could use deer if you dont mind exposeing your dog to PRIONS
[18:38] <scooby-atwork> lol
[18:38] <Ixtalan> Beef too
[18:38] <Ixtalan> lol
[18:38] <from_Texas> not a good idea Ix
[18:39] <Ixtalan> lol
[18:39] <West_coast> prions not a good idea
[18:39] <Ixtalan> Rabbits should be safe
[18:39] <Ixtalan> birds
[18:39] <Ixtalan> fish
[18:39] <West_coast> my dogs hunt field mice
[18:39] <Ixtalan> dogs would like that too
[18:39] <Ixtalan> dogs are good
[18:39] <Ixtalan> not so picky
[18:39] <West_coast> and have been known to bring a dead fish back from the river
[18:39] <Ixtalan> usually
[18:40] <from_Texas> mouse on-a-stick sounds great.... NOT
[18:40] <QueenVee> Harry is a Harrier Hound -- so he knows how to hung Hares....
[18:41] <Ixtalan> little mouse nuggets
[18:41] <Ixtalan> bith breading
[18:41] <Ixtalan> good animal to have
[18:41] <QueenVee> hung=hunt
[18:41] <Ixtalan> It might be a good idea to Start Stocking the Wild up on Rabbits around your area
[18:41] <West_coast> dogs are going to have to become self-sufficient, I think
[18:41] <West_coast> not let the rabbits get away any more
[18:42] <West_coast> my dogs, I mean
[18:42] <QueenVee> well, my cousin that i'm going to be living with during the poleshift, she has two big black labs on her farm, and they kill a couple of rabbits a day, just for sport....
[18:43] <West_coast> I have labs, too, but they are lazy, I think
[18:43] <QueenVee> they also kill squirrels and chipmunks
[18:43] <West_coast> just have to train them to bring them to you
[18:44] <QueenVee> no problem there; i was looking after them one weekend at her place, and they quite happily brought their kill to me....
[18:44] <West_coast> dinner
[18:44] <scooby-atwork> brb
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[18:47] <Ixtalan> hello..
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[18:48] * from_Texas sets mode: +o scooby
[18:48] * ChanServ sets mode: -o scooby
[18:48] <Ixtalan> lost my connection to the net
[18:48] <West_coast> QV: are you on Central time?
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[18:48] <QueenVee> WC: eastern standard time
[18:49] <West_coast> pole shift: dark side or light?
[18:50] <QueenVee> un, perpetual afternoon
[18:50] <West_coast> west coast?
[18:50] * from_Texas sets mode: +o scooby
[18:50] * ChanServ sets mode: -o scooby
[18:50] * QueenVee sets mode: +o scooby
[18:51] <QueenVee> mmmm
[18:51] <QueenVee> WC: no, more towards the east....
[18:51] <West_coast> what will it be like on the west coast
[18:52] <QueenVee> perpetual morning
[18:52] <West_coast> thanks
[18:52] <Ogmios> and in europe?
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[18:53] <Ogmios> darkness...
[18:54] <QueenVee> scooby: i've just added "scooby" as a permanent operator in this channel
[18:54] <QueenVee> what are the other two names you use?
[18:54] <scooby> scooby-afk
[18:54] <scooby> and scooby-atwork
[18:54] <QueenVee> scooby: okay, change your nick to scooby-atwork right now
[18:54] <scooby> thank you for the honor...
[18:55] * scooby is now known as scooby-atwork
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[18:55] <Ogmios> my cat went out
[18:55] <scooby-atwork> so in the future i sign on as scooby  and then switch ?
[18:55] <QueenVee> Ogmios: well, you'd better light him again
[18:55] <QueenVee> scooby: yes
[18:55] <West_coast> :)
[18:55] <QueenVee> authenticate as scooby
[18:55] <scooby-atwork> oic
[18:56] <Ogmios> her..
[18:56] <scooby-atwork> brb
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[18:56] * QueenVee sets mode: +o tied
[18:56] <QueenVee> West_Coast: would you like op status?
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