Session Start: Sat Jan 11 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <zepar> coffie grounds and mac donalds left overs
[00:02] <zepar> ramen noodles are 10 cents a pouch
[00:02] <zepar> around here
[00:03] <walt> the top ramen noodles are only good for 4-6 months
[00:03] <zepar> put worms and deer jerkey    or fish in it and it becomes a meal
[00:03] <walt> they turn stale afet a while
[00:03] <walt> after
[00:03] <zepar> guppys are hardy and they breed like mad
[00:03] <walt> we found that out with our Y2K preps
[00:03] <Aaaaa> some have critters in them, the noodles
[00:03] <walt> so are gold fish
[00:03] <zepar> vacume sealers keep them better for a while
[00:04] <walt> nope it was the fat on the noodles that turned them stale
[00:04] <zepar> we have been crushing them and sealing them
[00:04] <walt> just like the brown rice
[00:04] <walt> all our went stale
[00:04] <walt> we fed them to the chickens
[00:05] <zepar> good call
[00:05] <zepar> we have been saving our rabbit shit for feed and beleave me our rabbits eat good hehehhe
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[00:06] <scooby-atwork> ok guys...
[00:06] <scooby-atwork> i'm outta here
[00:06] <scooby-atwork> nite
[00:06] <walt> nite
[00:06] <zepar> nite
[00:06] <scooby-atwork> see you when I get home later
[00:06] <Aaaaa> nite
[00:06] <islander> gnite
[00:06] <walt> k
[00:06] <scooby-atwork> good luck zepar
[00:06] <zepar> thanks
[00:07] <zepar> keep up the knowledge
[00:07] <scooby-atwork> if you guys need someone to boot a problem person, check Ralf or Jurian
[00:07] <scooby-atwork> nite!
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[00:07] <zepar> ok 16 people on this chat who is talking?
[00:08] <Aaaaa> you
[00:08] <zepar> lol
[00:08] <zepar> as always
[00:08] <zepar> its my job in my group
[00:08] <zepar> find new info
[00:09] <Aaaaa> rabbit droppings are fed to?
[00:09] <zepar> not fed to anything yet we are saving
[00:09] <Aaaaa> for?
[00:10] <islander> good fertilizer
[00:10] <Aaaaa> fuel?
[00:10] <zepar> or anything we can use it for    i and am ex combat engineer
[00:11] <Aaaaa> nitrates?
[00:11] <zepar> chickens is better
[00:11] <zepar> but the chickens have become pets to some
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[00:12] <Aaaaa> trade it off as "raisens"?
[00:16] <zepar> keep it    compost it   pack it into what we need
[00:17] <zepar> so aaaaa what are you or your group doing to prep?
[00:17] <Aaaaa> waste not, want not:)
[00:17] <zepar> ahhh
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[00:18] <johnnie5> hi all.
[00:18] <zepar> welcome johnnie5
[00:18] <Aaaaa> trying to get others to even accept the shift
[00:19] <Aaaaa> while I been gathering needed supplies
[00:19] <zepar> we gave up convincing others of the shift and are now more into teaching our kids stuff
[00:20] <Aaaaa> trying to get my wife to learn first aid
[00:20] <zepar> hehehe
[00:20] <zepar> my wife would./..
[00:20] <johnnie5> it's a hard thing to accept. i'm preparing anyways.
[00:20] <Aaaaa> mine.................
[00:21] <Aaaaa> just got a new short wave
[00:21] <zepar> my wife beleaves that i am looking out for her but other then that she goes along with all the classes we teach
[00:21] <Aaaaa> modifying it to transmit on all freqs
[00:22] <Aaaaa> your fortunate
[00:22] <Aaaaa> mine goes shopping
[00:22] <zepar> we got a person whith one but he is still not a learner
[00:23] <johnnie5> i love shortwave. nothing like hearing the french chicks talk french. i have only receivers, though. no transmitters. not much help.
[00:24] <zepar> johnnie5 what are you doing to prep?
[00:24] <Aaaaa> putting together some pedal power and trying to get her to think of it as the gymn
[00:24] <zepar> lol
[00:24] <johnnie5> to prep? everything.
[00:25] <zepar> any info you might be able to give that might clue us in for a better survival rate
[00:26] <Aaaaa> bring two of each
[00:27] <johnnie5> none that i can think of, that you don't already know.
[00:27] <zepar> we came here for a reason    lets all keep eachother informed as to new or old things that we have learned off the net or by life
[00:28] <johnnie5> i wish i could do better.
[00:28] <Aaaaa> Z, I came in late, what classes you teach?
[00:29] <zepar> we had a class for our kids on fire starting and building a2 weekends ago
[00:29] <Aaaaa> good!
[00:30] <zepar> tomarrow we are going to watch football then have a class on on chainsaws
[00:30] <Aaaaa> anyone else notice the first "Survivor" shows, no one could make fire!
[00:30] <johnnie5> stock up on fishing line. it makes long lasting thread for sewing up tents and clothes and works for lashing things together for making shelters etc.
[00:30] <Aaaaa> hooks too!
[00:30] <zepar> we have had a on how to load and fire safe guns
[00:31] <zepar> my kids know how to reload several typs of ammo too
[00:31] <Aaaaa> great
[00:32] <zepar> we dont have much resources but we have knowledge
[00:32] <Aaaaa> what about alternate weapons when the powder runs out?
[00:33] <zepar> np
[00:33] <Aaaaa> np?
[00:33] <zepar> we got them all    we live in a country  place
[00:33] <Aaaaa> o
[00:34] <zepar> i could not begin to tell all what we have to deal with in the form of weapons
[00:34] <johnnie5> party at zepar's place!
[00:34] <Aaaaa> whats stored in your head is the best
[00:34] <zepar> but we have enough
[00:34] <zepar> i agree
[00:35] <zepar> we have done much to prep but we still have more to learn
[00:36] <johnnie5> just kidding, zepar.
[00:36] <Aaaaa> my son asks what are all my preps good for if I dont survive
[00:36] <zepar> look to cars for much of our prep
[00:36] <johnnie5> your son asks a good question.
[00:36] <Aaaaa> I tell him then I must be doing it for someone else
[00:37] <zepar> i still tell my kids that they are going to collage
[00:37] <Aaaaa> cars are a good "source"
[00:37] <johnnie5> good answer.
[00:38] <zepar> when the time comes i will be there for them and then they will have to put togather all i have given them
[00:38] <Aaaaa> yes
[00:38] <zepar> i learned all we teach from the net btw
[00:39] <Aaaaa> another good "source"
[00:39] <zepar> they only know that dad is a nut and that he is making them learn outside of school hehehe
[00:39] <Aaaaa> :)
[00:40] <zepar> but we are rual
[00:40] <zepar> rural
[00:40] <Aaaaa> what locale?
[00:40] <zepar> ohio
[00:41] <Aaaaa> will that area do ok?
[00:41] <zepar> its great
[00:42] <zepar> i have friends in the oil drilling industry
[00:42] <zepar> its called the big easy because it takes soo much to drill thru the rock
[00:43] <Aaaaa> :)
[00:43] <zepar> they get lots of time off while drilling
[00:43] <zepar> we are in the foothills of WV
[00:43] <Aaaaa> me in Oregon on Columbia river, near Mt. St. Helens, Mt. Hood, Mt.Rainier, Mt. Jeferson, Mt.Adams.....and on
[00:44] <Aaaaa> and on....
[00:44] <Aaaaa> all volcanic
[00:44] <zepar> wow
[00:45] <zepar> sounds like you might want to move before long hehehehe
[00:45] <Aaaaa> was 12 miles sw of st. Helens the first time it blew
[00:45] <Aaaaa> did not hear a sound!!
[00:46] <zepar> we have only had 1 earthquake in the 38 yrs i have been here
[00:46] <zepar> it was a 1.5
[00:46] <Aaaaa> lots of little rumbles here
[00:46] <zepar> we are sitting on solid rock around here
[00:47] <Aaaaa> lucky
[00:47] <Aaaaa> two years ago,shook good underfoot
[00:47] <zepar> i have moved from here 3 times and come back each time for some reason
[00:47] <Aaaaa> watched the river shake like jello
[00:48] <zepar> its a good place to raise kids
[00:48] <Aaaaa> sounds like
[00:49] <zepar> wow im gong to be beat for the class today heheheh i better go for the night    i wish more people would log on and talk to us on this website
[00:49] <walt> we had a 7.1 last year
[00:49] <Aaaaa> they are listening.....
[00:49] <walt> was pretty impressive
[00:49] <Aaaaa> where at?
[00:49] <walt> saettle
[00:49] <walt> Seattle
[00:50] <Aaaaa> not far from here
[00:50] <Aaaaa> thats big tho
[00:50] <zepar> but ill continue to tell all i know that way if you all meet up with us you might be able to contribute
[00:50] <Aaaaa> yes
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[00:51] <zepar> we look forward to meeting some of you
[00:51] <Aaaaa>  was in Seattle for the '65 quake
[00:51] <Aaaaa> that would be nice
[00:51] <zepar> gota go nite all     keep up the research
[00:51] <Aaaaa> g'nite!
[00:51] <johnnie5> bye zep
[00:51] <zepar> keep people talking by talking hehehe nite all
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[00:53] <[AC-in-NJ]> Yo!
[00:53] <Aaaaa> that 65 quake sounded like a freight train blasting thru the basement
[00:56] <Aaaaa> me too, should get some zzzz's later all
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[01:01] <johnnie5> i worry about the americans.
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[01:04] <walt> why?
[01:04] <johnnie5> they have houses spouses cars kids jobs credit cards money and social standing. they
[01:05] <walt> noboby else has any of that??? wow we are fortunate
[01:05] <walt> : )
[01:05] <johnnie5> have everything but the ability to watch loved ones die horribly and live in the woods eating bugs etc.
[01:05] <walt> excuse me??
[01:06] <johnnie5> i type slow. you didn't wait.
[01:06] <walt> do you have a site?  
[01:07] <walt> for your book on how you watched loved ones die and lived in the woods eating bugs
[01:07] <johnnie5> shut up and let me type.  ok?
[01:07] <walt> that kind of a broad generalization dont you think
[01:08] <johnnie5> i type slow.
[01:08] <walt> How old are you?
[01:09] <johnnie5> what difference does that make?
[01:09] <walt> a lot
[01:09] <johnnie5> why?
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[01:09] <walt> it will let me know if you are truly stupid or just inexperienced
[01:10] <johnnie5> or?
[01:10] <walt> How many american do you know?
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[01:11] <johnnie5> i never said anything about a book,   YOU did.
[01:13] <johnnie5> i type slow.  will you let me type?
[01:14] <johnnie5> ok,
[01:15] <johnnie5> i was talking about the american lifestyle. they have farther to fall because they have more to lose...
[01:17] <johnnie5> and know absotlutely nothing about the hardships of the kind of things that come with a pole shift.
[01:17] <johnnie5> got it?
[01:17] <walt> and other people do??
[01:18] <johnnie5> not my point, but i see what you mean.
[01:18] <walt> dont underestimate the american
[01:18] <johnnie5> you're right.
[01:18] <walt> they can handle themselves well enough
[01:19] <johnnie5> you're right.
[01:19] <walt> and will do what needs to get done'
[01:19] <johnnie5> probably.
[01:20] <walt> mpore than likely
[01:20] <johnnie5> typing...
[01:20] <walt> since they have more resoources to draw from
[01:21] <johnnie5> americans know what to do in a war zone. a localized event.  a pole shift? a global event.
[01:22] <walt> its all local when it gets down to it
[01:22] <johnnie5> not what they are used to.
[01:22] <walt> and is anyone used to it?
[01:22] <johnnie5> nope.
[01:23] <walt> so why would the americans not be able to handle it?
[01:23] <walt> you obviouly didnt learn much from 9/11
[01:24] <johnnie5> farther to fall.  that was my point.  some are used to living in shit.  americans are not. that's all i'm saying.
[01:25] <walt> what about canadians
[01:25] <walt> or europeans
[01:26] <walt> Australia/NZ?
[01:28] <johnnie5> other people on earth that live an american lifestyle?
[01:28] * VB-away is now known as VB
[01:28] <VB> Morning all..
[01:28] <johnnie5> hi
[01:29] <VB> hi 5 alive
[01:29] <johnnie5> walt?
[01:29] <walt> what?
[01:29] <johnnie5> see previous question.
[01:29] <VB> Johnnie 5 - 'short circuit' 5 alive
[01:30] <johnnie5> well?
[01:31] <walt> what ?
[01:31] <johnnie5> figures.
[01:31] <johnnie5> never mind.
[01:32] <walt> so you think those that havent as much to lose will come out of this better?
[01:33] <VB> with reference to the conversation that is in progress...  I would say that a change in polarity and climate in the northern americas would not only create a increased unstable weather structure, but could even become uninhabitable.
[01:34] <walt> they also dont have the medicines, food storage, equipment to recover quickly like more civilized countries
[01:34] <johnnie5> all people on earth that live a comfy lifestyle are fucked, if you know what i mean.
[01:34] <walt> I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN
[01:34] <VB> agreed
[01:34] <walt> sorry about the caps
[01:35] <johnnie5> sorry about the f word.
[01:35] <VB> The weather patterns in north america are the most unstable in comparison to the rest of the world
[01:35] <VB> a major shift in polarity would only increase the unstabilty of that structure
[01:36] <VB> a 'twister' as so called would become commonplace
[01:36] <walt> just have to wait and see wont we
[01:36] <VB> but I do agree, the majority of people who at present hold the grasp of power, willsoon be the needy
[01:37] <VB> 'the meek may inherit the earth' [not a quote]
[01:37] <walt> compared to who?
[01:38] <walt> and who is going to send supplies to the meek to help them recover??
[01:38] <VB> I would say that the average working class family even to say middle class have lived rough, camped... even maybe gone through times in their lives where money was a priority, as in there was none
[01:38] <walt> they will be more devasted
[01:38] <VB> this is basic training in an event like this
[01:39] <VB> you start to look at different ways to 'survive'
[01:40] <VB> I think you underestimate the scale of devastation that would occur..
[01:40] <walt> they will suffer far greater than the civilized countries, because the civilized countries wont be there to send them aid
[01:40] <VB> afk
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[01:41] <walt> I think a lot of people are projecting their fantasies into this
[01:42] <walt> the major AT die offs will more likely be in 3rd world countries
[01:42] <walt> countries that cant support themselves now
[01:42] <johnnie5> the people of this earth have been through enough. a long time ago. they deserve better. they get worse. a lot worse. that sucks.
[01:43] <walt> much less after a major event like this
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[01:43] <VB> back
[01:44] <VB> why will third world coutries be worse off...?
[01:44] <VB> they are used to surviving...?
[01:45] <VB> also the land mass of most third world countries is far above sea level than most industrialized places in the world...
[01:45] <VB> we built allour major cities next to large rivers for food and water... now it seems that was a bad idea
[01:46] <johnnie5> look to Gods plan for humanity.
[01:46] <VB> god... who is god..?
[01:47] <johnnie5> what is humanity?
[01:47] <VB> you shoul dknow that your human
[01:48] <johnnie5> duh?
[01:48] <VB> nice answer...  "duh?"   ...says everything
[01:50] <johnnie5> so anyway, i have a culvert in mind for the shift. it's among changed topography and is now above water level. i really like it.
[01:51] <VB> nice
[01:52] <VB> we've just fitted a solar panel on the roof of a VW camper
[01:52] <VB> and created a dug the size of a smalll apartment in the hills
[01:54] <johnnie5> what's the solar panel gonna do? i mean, maybe lots now, but after? with no sun for years?
[01:55] <VB> what..?  th epolar shift isn't gonna block out the sun
[01:56] <johnnie5> well...
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[01:56] <johnnie5> there was something about volcanic ash...
[01:56] <VB> unless Planet X is not a planet and the profecy is a nuclear warhead
[01:56] <scooby> there will be lotsa dust in the air after the pass-by
[01:57] <scooby> not ideal for solar panels
[01:57] <VB> possibly not... but I'd like to think I could still power my XBOX..
[01:57] <VB> lol
[01:57] <VB> [joke]
[01:57] <scooby> lol
[01:57] <scooby> brb
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[01:58] <VB> what we have to really worry about is the fact that if our planet is pushed further away or closer to our sun
[01:59] <VB> at the moment we have an almost perfect orbit
[01:59] <johnnie5> not pushed. flipped over.
[01:59] <VB> it happened the last time, what's to say it won't hapen again
[02:00] <VB> flipped over..?
[02:00] <johnnie5> pole shift.
[02:03] <johnnie5> magnetics. i'm sorry. i've known magnetics since 4th grade and i'm almost forty. i forget some don't know what i know.
[02:07] <VB> don't patronize me.. if you think the world is going to flip over then you are misguided... the pole shift will move polarity... not flip the world over
[02:08] <johnnie5> move what polarity?
[02:08] <VB> yes there is evidence proven by the polarity in base rock changes in certain parts of the world with proves that this has happened before before
[02:09] <VB> but the polarity of the rock was not reversed e.g north becoming south
[02:09] <VB> it was a matter of degrees
[02:10] <johnnie5> still there, though. still there. see?
[02:10] <VB> what's still there..?
[02:11] <VB> I'm not dnying the fact that this has happened before, I support the evidence that we have that in years past something cause our planets polarity to move
[02:13] <VB> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p146.htm
[02:14] <johnnie5> so, is it that you doubt the 2003 date?
[02:15] <johnnie5> the "not in my lifetime" stance?
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[02:20] <johnnie5> anyway, i went to fleet farm and picked up a folding shovel. 8 bucks. kewl.
[02:21] <johnnie5> i will pick up another one for the group.
[02:22] <johnnie5> less than half a shoe box. easy to carry.
[02:25] <johnnie5> now i just hope i can find the group.
[02:25] <johnnie5> i'm alone on foot.
[02:26] <scooby> typing in your laptop?
[02:27] <johnnie5> imagine that. i'm preparing for a group i may never find.
[02:27] <scooby> you will find them
[02:28] <scooby> if you build they will come
[02:28] <scooby> : )
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[02:29] <johnnie5> i can only hope.
[02:32] <obany> moment
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[02:32] <johnnie5> three weeks ago, i had an aftertime dream.
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[02:35] <johnnie5> ?
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[02:35] <johnnie5> wb obany?
[02:36] <obany> thnx
[02:36] <johnnie5> looked like a struggle.
[02:37] <johnnie5> scooby seems to be having a time of it , too.
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[02:55] <obany> hi rnthomas
[02:57] <rnthomas> hey ob... how goes it.
[02:58] <obany> fine fine and with you ?
[02:58] <rnthomas> pretty tired, and it looks like I gotta stay awake...
[02:59] <obany> what
[02:59] <obany> 's the time over there?
[03:00] <obany> ah early
[03:00] <rnthomas> 3:00 AM, I gotta go to work at 7 am...
[03:00] <obany> wew
[03:00] <VB> greetings all
[03:02] <rnthomas> hey vb... Are you plain VB 6.0 ot VB.Net?
[03:04] <VB> Virtual Burn
[03:24] <VB> hello obany
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[03:29] <obany> hi VB
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[03:41] <Mihau> hello
[03:41] <obany> hi
[03:42] <Mihau> Does anyone know when section "planet X sightings" is going to be updated?
[03:42] <Mihau> I mean on www.zetetalk.com
[03:45] <obany> Mihau: soon maybe .... http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm  btw did you read the latest log with the answer about when the Planet will be vissible withouth a telescope?
[03:45] <Mihau> i see noone is here
[03:45] <Mihau> hello
[03:46] <Mihau> o, thank you obany
[03:47] <Mihau> yes i read that but i  was wondering about weekly update of that section, because last sighting is on 28 dec and it is almost fortnight now
[03:49] <obany> Mihau: well the weather has to be good, and one needs the time also ... etc ... and check this
[03:50] <obany> A 4.36239 Dec 12.11946 Jan 13, 2003
[03:50] <obany> and i doubt that making pictures every week will be more convincing ...
[03:50] <obany> some people want so much
[03:51] <Mihau> ok. i agree
[03:51] <obany> i am convinced enough
[03:51] <Mihau> the confidence is from within
[03:51] <obany> i take the pole shift, and zetatalk higly serious
[03:51] <obany> even withouth those pictures
[03:51] <Mihau> i don't want the confidence from this pictures
[03:51] <Mihau> it doesn't matter to me
[03:52] <Mihau> if it's going to happen like this or like that
[03:52] <Mihau> i'm happy  
[03:52] <obany> but there are people ... for whom it matters, but then again there are also those who say that they don't see a thing on those pictures
[03:53] <obany> who yell and shout for more more more
[03:54] <obany> and those who don't listen to their guts .... and rather listen to science all of the time as if that's the only thing that matters in their life
[03:54] <obany> s
[03:55] <Mihau> you see obay, i don't have any experience with such pictures and i ' don't see anything on them, except from things that others say that are there :)
[03:55] <Mihau> but as i said it doesn't matter
[03:56] <obany> did you read this yet http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use20031.htm  and on this page the zetas debating  http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use01063.htm
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[03:56] <obany> well i see things on those pictures .. so you and i have a different view about that
[03:56] <Mihau> nope
[03:58] <Mihau> ok. i see something but  i'm ignorant and i cannot recognize if the pictures show what they are said to show :)
[03:59] <Mihau> i'm quite sure something is going to happen  so pictures i don't need but
[03:59] <Mihau> i like to observe the discussion they provoke
[04:01] <Mihau> have you seen this page http://www.grantchronicles.com/title2.htm ?
[04:01] <Mihau> perhaps you could comment it
[04:02] <Mihau> i mean what do you think is the source of it, because there is quite intresting piece of astrophysics concerning planet X
[04:07] <obany> zetatalk , troubled times just check this http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword03a.htm ...
[04:07] <obany> offerred by Rober
[04:07] <obany> t
[04:08] <obany> just look at this page
[04:08] <obany> http://www.grantchronicles.com/astro35.htm
[04:08] <obany> has the coordinates from zetatalk
[04:10] <obany> did you checked this page yet http://www.shift2003.com/ some mention about implosions and sinkholes that are occuring
[04:11] <obany> as zetatalk predicted
[04:11] <Mihau> but how about the planetary dynamics of the 12th planet? is it also from zetatalk?because i didn,t manage to read through whole NANCY's site...
[04:11] <obany> he is talking about the repulsion force etc right
[04:11] <obany> repulsion force is from zetatalk
[04:15] <Mihau> it's interesting...
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[04:16] <Mihau> just wondering - where do you live obany? if it's not a secret ;)
[04:16] <Mihau> oh, you 're gone?
[04:17] <Mihau> so have a nice day everyone :)
[04:17] <Mihau> bye
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[04:42] <Ixtalan> hello......anyone out there?
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[05:20] <VB> 'Dance, Dance where-ever you may be, Iam the lord of the Dance said (s)he, I'll lead you all where-ever ou may be, I am the lord of the dance said (s)he.
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[06:18] <metta> hi everyone
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[06:38] <QueenVee> hello all
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[06:39] <tallboy> howdy queen
[06:39] <QueenVee> hello, long time no see
[06:39] <QueenVee> getting an early seat for ZetaTalk?
[06:40] <tallboy> i know and tnx. i have been reading the logs
[06:41] <tallboy> usually i am out and about in the yard but we have a cold rain here today
[06:41] <QueenVee> ah, so you're stuck indoors
[06:41] <tallboy> yep
[06:41] <QueenVee> i've had a very active morning myself
[06:42] <tallboy> and i quit cigs today so i am kind of jumpy
[06:42] <QueenVee> i have a new dog, a harrier hound (my 16 year old cocker spaniel had to be put down last week)....
[06:42] <QueenVee> he gets me up at 6am to go for a run in the wooded area near my home...
[06:43] <tallboy> sorry about the cocker. i had one when i was a small boy
[06:43] <QueenVee> this morning he got across the creek on a rabbit trail, and was making such a howling racket, that i thought he was injured or something
[06:43] <QueenVee> so i waded across the creek (shallow thank god) to rescue him, only to find he was just happily pursuing a scent
[06:44] <QueenVee> i'm exhausted
[06:44] <QueenVee> thanks about my cocker spaniel....
[06:44] <QueenVee> he was 16, diagnosed with a heart condition last year, so it was not unexpected
[06:44] <tallboy> lol but a good exhausted
[06:44] <QueenVee> yes, i daresay he's going to get my in good shape
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[06:58] <tallboy> just wanted to say good morning. i'll check in later and keep up the good work
[06:58] <QueenVee> ok, later...
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[07:05] <obaway> hi Queen
[07:06] <obaway> lvcm.com is sapphire for what i know
[07:06] <obaway>  QueenVee removes ban on *!*@cm013.60.234.24.lvcm.com
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[07:09] <from_Texas> QV: you getting set for the day?
[07:12] <from_Texas> heading out for a bit... bbl
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[07:17] <QueenVee> hi tex
[07:18] <QueenVee> hi obany
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[07:25] <QueenVee> hello woogles
[07:25] <woogles> hello
[07:25] <QueenVee> everybody seems to be up early today
[07:26] <obaway> QueenVee: yes it's 4:25 here :P
[07:26] <obaway> 4:26 .. now
[07:26] <obaway> PM hehehe :P
[07:26] <QueenVee> hehe
[07:26] <QueenVee> it's 10:25am here, i've been up since 6am
[07:27] <QueenVee> i'd forgotten what have a young dog is like
[07:30] <obaway> :)
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[07:36] <QueenVee> hi zetapal
[07:37] <Zetapal> Hi
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[07:44] <whitebear> hello
[07:44] <QueenVee> hello whitebear
[07:44] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room"?
[07:44] <obany> hi whitebear
[07:45] <whitebear> more information
[07:45] <QueenVee> about?
[07:46] <whitebear> poleshift/surival
[07:46] <QueenVee> okay, what do you need to know?
[07:47] <QueenVee> you're in Alberta, yes?
[07:47] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[07:47] <whitebear> not sure where to begin and yes
[07:48] <QueenVee> well, you're in a good location, for starters
[07:48] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
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[07:53] <QueenVee> wb
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[07:56] <whitebear> first time on chat for me,guess that shows how important this is to me
[07:58] <QueenVee> whitebear:  how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[07:59] <QueenVee> whitebear: please note that you can't post more than a couple of sentences at a time, so if you've been trying to post something longer, that may be why you're getting disconnected.
[08:00] <whitebear>  about a month ,but knew something was up before. Intutition ?
[08:00] <QueenVee> perhaps
[08:01] <QueenVee> so you're starting to think about preparation now?
[08:02] <whitebear> people around here figures this is all hog wash and yes
[08:03] <QueenVee> yes, hard to convince people to look at the evidence; but we have a number of people from alberta who come to this chat room
[08:04] <whitebear> good to hear not everyone  has there head where the sun does'nt shine
[08:09] <whitebear> I guess what I'm looking for is a group that is preparing as well .Safety in numbers as well as each having their own specialty
[08:10] <QueenVee> whitebear: well, are you familiar with our website?
[08:10] <QueenVee> www.shift2003.com
[08:11] <QueenVee> we have a CONNECT WITH OTHER POLESHIFTERS section, where you can post a profile looking for others to network with, or view the profiles of others....
[08:11] <whitebear> no first time on any chat
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[08:12] <QueenVee> okay, well, current profiles can be read on the following page: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=40
[08:12] <QueenVee> as you can see, there are three profiles up there by people who either live in Alberta or who are planning to relocate to Alberta
[08:15] <whitebear> great!!! thanks QueenVee you have been very helpful got to sign off now to tend with the kids thanks again
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[08:18] <obany> http://mo-www.harvard.edu/MicroObservatory/ControlCenter/index.html
[08:19] <QueenVee> ok, looking....
[08:20] <QueenVee> cool -- are you going to use it?
[08:21] <obany> nope not sure how it works
[08:21] <obany> but checking it now
[08:21] <woogles> im figuring that out now
[08:21] <woogles> seems kinda neat
[08:21] <QueenVee> well, i'll expect a full report..... ;-)
[08:21] <woogles> you can even tell it when to take image, very nice
[08:23] <woogles> bah you have a user name and password obany?
[08:24] <obany> no no ... let me see how to get one
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[08:25] <QueenVee> hi edude
[08:25] <edude> hello queenvee
[08:27] <woogles> hmm well you even have the exact coords for the 13th, very convenient
[08:27] <QueenVee> edude: obany and woogles are checking out this online telescope: http://mo-www.harvard.edu/MicroObservatory/ControlCenter/index.html
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[08:29] <obany> sigh one needs to be a teachter
[08:29] <obany> teacher
[08:29] <obany> sigh
[08:29] <woogles> ah that explains the lack of a sign up forum
[08:29] <QueenVee> too bad
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[08:30] <QueenVee> hello Bip
[08:30] <Bip-Busy> Hello Queen.
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[08:30] <QueenVee> i see you're busy, so i won't interrupt you
[08:30] <Bip-Busy> What's... up ?
[08:30] <QueenVee> the usual
[08:30] <obany> woogles: there is a sign up forum ..but then you have to pretend to be a educator
[08:30] <Bip-Busy> k. Yeah I'm kinda busy.
[08:31] <QueenVee> obany: i think you're very educational
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[08:32] <Lightspeed> Hi all!
[08:32] <QueenVee> hello Lightsped
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[08:32] <QueenVee> hello tied
[08:32] <tied2> hello
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[08:33] <tied2> whats new?
[08:33] <tied2> whats your web site link I lost it
[08:33] <QueenVee> um.... did you hear there's a poleshift coming...?
[08:33] <QueenVee> www.shift2003.com
[08:33] <tied2> no tell me all about it
[08:34] <Lightspeed> Is there anything new?
[08:34] <QueenVee> starting with "what's a zeta?", right?
[08:34] <obany> http://www.cwru.edu/pubs/cnews/1998/12-3/nassau.htm
[08:35] <QueenVee> wow, very cool, obany
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[08:36] <obany> sigh
[08:36] <obany> again
[08:36] <obany> Be aware that the telescope is not fully operational and that any request you make for observations may not be considered for observation before several months have ellapsed.
[08:36] <obany> still searching
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[08:36] <obany> there should be a good one
[08:36] <tied2> now if we can get them to point it in the right direction
[08:37] <Lightspeed> I am back. It is winter, and my irc client had been frozen...
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[08:37] <QueenVee> hey, here's an interesting article: http://allafrica.com/stories/200301100208.html
[08:37] <Lightspeed> obany could you repeat that link, please!
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[08:39] <Lightspeed> Sorry. This Mirc client makes me nervous!
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[08:42] <obany> this is what i mentioned earlier on http://astrwww.astr.cwru.edu/useroptions.html
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[08:47] <QueenVee> lightspeed: that quake was reported on the European earthquake report site i use; you will find it on the following page; it was subsequently downgraded from a 5.0 to a 4.9: http://www.emsc-csem.org/cgi-bin/ALERT_all_messages.sh?3
[08:51] <obany> http://skyandtelescope.com/resources/organizations/
[08:51] <Lightspeed> But no one of my friend or family felt that quake. I have friends everywhere in our little country. Maybe ou seismology center measured another quake, and the seismologists are setimated that it was a DISTANT 5.0 OUTSIDE OF HUNGARY. Bat the facts are, there were unusual little quakes.
[08:51] * obany going to drink some tea and going to watch some tv now
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[09:17] <whitebear> hello
[09:17] <QueenVee> hello
[09:19] <whitebear> thanks again for info. As I suspected , not many people aware in Alberta.
[09:20] <QueenVee> well, i don't think there are that many people aware anywhere....
[09:20] <QueenVee> and those are only the people who have chosen to post a profile
[09:20] <QueenVee> we have many more from alberta who come to this room
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[09:22] <QueenVee> hey willshell
[09:22] <willshell> Hiya QueenVee
[09:22] <QueenVee> how's it been going?
[09:22] <willshell> ok i guess hehe
[09:22] <QueenVee> whitebear is new here, in alberta
[09:22] <QueenVee> willshell is in idaho
[09:23] <willshell> Hia whitebear :o)
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[09:23] <willshell> gonna be busseling around the house, semi afk
[09:23] <QueenVee> hello JimW -- what brings you to this room?
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[09:24] <QueenVee> i see you're in LA, jim
[09:24] <JimW> QueenVaa: Just making I know how to use IRC before the meeting starts. I want to monitor the discussion and, perhaps, ask a few questions about preparation and survival.
[09:25] <JimW> Oops. Sorry, QueenVee
[09:25] <QueenVee> JimW: okay, well, you need to pose your questions in the two-hour period before the session, in order for it to be considered for the agenda
[09:26] <QueenVee> the Question Period starts in about one hour, and nancy's session starts in about two hours
[09:26] <QueenVee> sorry, nancy's session starts in THREE hours
[09:26] <JimW> Thank You. I will do so.
[09:26] <QueenVee> i would consider your questions now, but i have to go and walk the dog now....
[09:26] <QueenVee> i'll be back here in one hour
[09:27] <QueenVee> if there's anything you're having trouble with, re IRC, ask anyone in this room, but especially Obany...
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[09:28] <whitebear> sorry ,had to do the diaper change
[09:28] <whitebear> hello willshell
[09:28] <tied2> willshell !
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[09:30] <from_Texas> tied willshell is semi-afk.. not ignoring you
[09:31] <tied2> no problem
[09:32] <willshell> Hiya tied2
[09:32] <willshell> tahnks from_Texas lol
[09:32] <tied2> willshell how ya been?
[09:32] <willshell> well i may be needing to move to western washington this month
[09:33] <willshell> cant make enough money here in Idaho
[09:33] <willshell> got a kid on the way and 12 buck an hour aint gonna cover it
[09:33] <tied2> thats a problem up uthere in themiddle of no where
[09:33] <tied2> yeah
[09:33] <willshell> i can make double in WA for the same work
[09:33] <tied2> good luck Jobs are hard right now
[09:34] <willshell> got one already
[09:34] <tied2> kewl
[09:34] <willshell> <--- truck driver
[09:34] <tied2> oh
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[09:34] * willshell waves to Ralf
[09:36] <willshell> I will be inland from the ocean over there, but within 100 miles of a large volcano (Ranier) so we will so how it goes
[09:36] <willshell> might make plans for exodus to the hills in the month prior
[09:36] <tied2> that would be good
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[09:37] <Bip-Bip> hello again
[09:37] <willshell> hiyas
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[10:17] <from_Texas> Welcome StevenB
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[10:17] <from_Texas> Welcome humvee
[10:18] <from_Texas> QV should return in about 15 minutes to start discussion questions for todays session
[10:18] <humvee> hi tex thanks
[10:20] <StevenB> Hello - FT  - Thank You
[10:23] <from_Texas> StevenB: how does one get your newsletter
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[10:24] <Ogmios> hi
[10:24] <from_Texas> hi Ogmios
[10:25] <StevenB> just send a message to steveneb@sprynet.com  
[10:25] <from_Texas> thanks StevenB
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[10:26] <Ogmios> any new images taken?
[10:26] <Ogmios>  px
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[10:26] <QueenVee> hello all
[10:27] <rnthomas> howdy
[10:27] <QueenVee> yggdras: why are you logged on three times?
[10:27] <QueenVee> hi rn
[10:27] <yggdrasil> uhm
[10:27] <yggdrasil> i guesse computer at other places
[10:27] <yggdrasil> they got a mind of thier own
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[10:29] <QueenVee> i give up
[10:29] <humvee> Q: Looking with a telescope when will we be able to see pictorial detail of the incoming 10th planet?
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[10:29] <yggdrasil> ill dc them if its that anooying to u
[10:29] <QueenVee> yggdrasl: don't worry about it; i was just being anal
[10:30] <yggdrasil> i was in a hurry yesterday i guesse
[10:30] <JimW> QueenVee: Time for questions?
[10:30] <humvee> good morning QueenVee
[10:30] <obany> morning morning
[10:30] <obany> what morning :P
[10:31] <humvee> breakfast
[10:31] <obany> %time
[10:31] <QueenVee>  HELLO ALL! Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in 2 hrs. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[10:31] <obany> mm
[10:31] <obany> okay okay Queen
[10:31] <QueenVee> okay okay obany
[10:32] <yggdrasil> hrhehe
[10:32] <JimW> 1. Question for Zetas: Considering that you have indicated that a large portion of
[10:32] <JimW> Earth’s atmosphere will be lost, is there an upper limit on altitude that could be
[10:32] <JimW> considered reasonably safe for shift and post-shift survival? I am considering an
[10:32] <JimW> area that is approximately 2000 feet above sea level.
[10:32] <humvee> Looking with a telescope, when will we be able to see pictorial detail of Planet X?
[10:33] <QueenVee> JimW: 2000 ft above sea level is not a problem, it's when you get higher that it becomes a problem
[10:33] <obany> humvee: closer to the March 30 date ...  
[10:33] <QueenVee> obany: do you remember where i ZT it talks about that?
[10:33] <QueenVee> humvee: what do you mean by "pictorial detail"?
[10:34] <obany> let mee see ... queen where to find this
[10:34] <QueenVee> JimW: where are you located, again?
[10:34] <QueenVee> or, rather, where is your safe location?
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[10:34] <JimW> I'm currently located in Los Angeles, but expect to relocate to somewhere on the east coast.
[10:35] <obany> !kick MichaelCunningham not for you
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[10:35] <QueenVee> JimW: the place you are looking at, can you be more specific about where it is?
[10:35] <QueenVee> obany: correct: he's welcome to attend the session, but not the question period
[10:35] <JimW> I prefer to not be too specific, but I can say that it will be in the Apalacian (?) mountains.
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[10:37] <QueenVee> hello sam
[10:37] <humvee> pictorial detail is when more than what thoes sci-astros call random noise or dots
[10:37] <QueenVee> sam:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 2 hrs. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[10:37] <QueenVee> JimW: while i'm gathering more information on that area for you, can you post your second question?
[10:38] <obany> okay about the atmosphere http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p160.htm  
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[10:38] <QueenVee> hi sotos
[10:38] <sotos> hello qv
[10:38] <QueenVee> sotos:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 2 hrs. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[10:39] <sotos> great!!
[10:39] <JimW> Yes, I saw this web page, and a few others, but no indication was made about maximum safe altidude.
[10:39] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/Xtime/x15.htm
[10:39] <QueenVee> JimW: well, we can tell you that 2,000 feet is not a problem
[10:41] <QueenVee> JimW: as a recall, it was only when you reached significantly high altitudes, like 6,000 or 7,000 feet that it becomes a problem; so you're nowhere close
[10:41] <JimW> Thank You. (Are you saying that you are at or above a comparable altidude?)
[10:41] <QueenVee> JimW: i'm at 1500 feet myself
[10:42] <QueenVee> no, Jim, we're saying that we recall that this has already been answered in zetatalk...
[10:42] <JimW> Thank You.
[10:42] <QueenVee> usually between obany and myself we can come up with the link, but haven't been able to yet...
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[10:43] <QueenVee> hello Inspiron
[10:44] <QueenVee> Inspiron:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 2 hrs. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[10:44] <humvee> pictorial detail is when enough pixels are present to start to look like a picture
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[10:44] <QueenVee> JimW: i assume you've read the relevant ZT sections on the specific area you are considering....?
[10:44] <QueenVee> hiya Michaelss:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 2 hrs. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[10:44] <Inspiron> i want to know about the phase shift Queen
[10:44] <QueenVee> phase shift?
[10:44] <obany> Inspirion: phase shift?
[10:45] <QueenVee> you mean density shift?
[10:45] <Inspiron> yes
[10:45] <QueenVee> what did you want to know about it?
[10:45] <JimW> I did a search on the ZT web site using the terms 'atmosphere' and 'altitude' and didn't find what I was looking for.
[10:46] <obany> Inspirion: check www.zetatalk.com and choose density and transformation enough over there i think
[10:46] <Inspiron> ive read that
[10:46] <Inspiron> i want to know what it will be like
[10:46] <QueenVee> Inspiron: you're going to have to come up with a more specific question than that
[10:46] <Michaellss> heya QV
[10:46] <QueenVee> there's already some information about that on ZT
[10:46] <Michaellss> sorry someone knocked had to answer
[10:47] <Inspiron> ok
[10:47] <Inspiron> how will life be like in the new density ?
[10:47] <QueenVee> not specific enough inspiron
[10:47] <QueenVee> what aspect of "life"?
[10:47] <obany> Inspirion: well it will take some time before it will occur... Inspirion: check http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d12.htm
[10:48] <JimW> QueenVee: Yes, I did check the ZT site for information on my selected safe area. Thank you for asking.
[10:48] <sam> Using remote viewing, I see many homes, barns, structures etc. intact after the pole shift in Minnesota, specifically. Is light damage possible in such areas?
[10:49] <QueenVee> sam: well, ZT has indicated that some areas will be more devastated than others....
[10:49] <QueenVee> i recall them saying that in Alberta it won't be worse than crockery falling off the shelves....
[10:50] <QueenVee> so that's entirely possible
[10:52] <rnthomas> Hey QV ha is the Government shutting down public services in a quiet manner?  - Could this be in relation to May 15th, as well a pile of pension funds are flagged by the federal Govt as having lost major value (as reported in the papers)
[10:52] <rnthomas> ha = has
[10:52] <humvee> sam - m in touch w/new group forming in MN email: humvee@hawaiina.net
[10:53] <QueenVee> rn: no, i don't think so....
[10:53] <QueenVee> not in canada
[10:53] <humvee> ops humvee@hawaiian.net
[10:53] <rnthomas> It's like theyre cleaning house and shutting stuff down...
[10:53] <rnthomas> Social Services, most (90 %) are getting booted off the system in about 16 months...
[10:54] <QueenVee> RN: i don't think the canadian govt is even in the know
[10:54] <rnthomas> Can only be on assistance 2 out of 5 years now...
[10:54] <rnthomas> They recently sold a section of the trans-canada highways ( BC Ferries are privatized )
[10:55] <rnthomas> Which selling highways I thought was illegal...
[10:56] <Ogmios> Sasa Matic - Kad ljubav zakasni
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[10:58] <QueenVee> Hello SCDee55:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 90 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[10:58] <rnthomas> Most of it is in the papers, you just gotta 'read between the lines...' of the headlines...
[10:59] <obany> mmmm so no one can't come up with questions, not even you ogmios ? :)
[11:01] <SCDee55> the talk session begins at 3:30 west coast time?
[11:01] <Ogmios> hmmm
[11:01] <SCDee55> am on east coast, little past 2:00 here now
[11:01] <QueenVee> SCDee: the session begins 90 minutes from now
[11:02] <SCDee55> ok, thanks QV, will return later
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[11:02] <obany> there are questions to be asked, ans answers to be given :) just don't hesitate
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[11:03] <humvee> when will Planet x be close enough to get a picture which might help convince our neighbors of its existance?
[11:04] <QueenVee> Hello cropduster:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 90 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[11:04] <rnthomas> I like the little diagram of Orion on Mars of ORIONS BELT, with an extra body there...
[11:04] <QueenVee> rn: what are you referring to?
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[11:05] <Ogmios> kinda funny..female ice hockey player in male team..in finland
[11:05] <Nightbird> Hi Queen.. Hi everyone
[11:05] <Ogmios> the best female player in the world..from canada
[11:05] <Nightbird> I don't really have any questions.. noticed you have been quite busy posting sinkholes, earthquakes, weather problems... etc
[11:06] <QueenVee> well, of course... from canada...
[11:06] <Ogmios> kelly..
[11:06] <QueenVee> nightbird: yep, still behind actually....
[11:06] <Ogmios> wickenheiser
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[11:06] <Nightbird> too bad we don't hear that stuff on the news.. would save you the trouble
[11:07] <QueenVee> ha
[11:07] <QueenVee> hello HBO:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 90 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[11:07] <HBO> hiya QueenVee, are you doing ok?
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[11:08] <Ogmios> http://www.therecord.com/sports/s010874A.html
[11:08] <Ogmios> :o
[11:08] <QueenVee> HBO: yeah, i'm good; new dog is wearing me out....
[11:09] <HBO> new dog?
[11:09] <Ogmios> go canada go
[11:09] <HBO> still have the old one too?
[11:09] <QueenVee> HBO: no, he had to be put down last week; suffered a stroke....
[11:09] <HBO> I'm sorry
[11:10] <QueenVee> well, he was 16, with a heart condition, so it was not unexpected; it was his time....
[11:10] <obany> btw just a mention since there are new pictures posted on the troubled times site ... see sightings page and sarahmc made a notice of it.. that we should watch for trouble makers
[11:10] <QueenVee> obany: what do you mean?
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[11:11] <obany> just like MichaelCunningham that they don't make any nasty comments if they are around .. that's what i mean
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[11:11] <wEzzng> wtf
[11:11] <wEzzng> :x
[11:11] <HBO> SarahMac warning of troublemakers.....hahahahhahahh
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[11:11] <obany> HBO: no no ... that's what i am saying
[11:11] <obany> SarahMC mentioned on sci.astro that there are new pictures
[11:11] <QueenVee> FOR THOSE WHO JUST ENTERED THE ROOM:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 90 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[11:11] <HBO> oh, misunderstood
[11:12] <QueenVee> ok, i get it now
[11:12] <HBO> obany, when were they taken?
[11:12] <obany> the 10th
[11:12] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas26.htm
[11:13] <HBO> has jwd analyzed them yet?
[11:13] <obany> no no not yet
[11:13] <HBO> are they all fits pix?
[11:13] <obany> fits as well as bmp
[11:13] <HBO> ok, I'll have to wait then till the zip file is up
[11:14] <QueenVee> Oh, dear; this is not good: "The DSS and NEAT images do not show many existing objects around the Jan 13 coordinates. That whole area of sky looks to be pretty empty."
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[11:15] <HBO> what are DSS images?
[11:15] <haccess> salutations  :O
[11:16] <obany> QueenVee: i think you misunderstand what it says, it's talking about the NEAT/DSS pictures, not the fits files
[11:16] <haccess> digitized sky survey
[11:16] <HBO> thx
[11:16] <obany> as i just checked the bmp and it shows stars etc. so
[11:16] <QueenVee> OK
[11:17] <obany> wich means that there are things to see around the Jan 13 on the fits and not on the DSS file ..
[11:17] <obany> i think that is what that page is trying to say
[11:18] <sam> QV, I propose that Nancy address the topic of pole shift devastation ranging from slight to severe to recognize that there will be great variation from region to region.
[11:18] <obany> sam: have you been to the safe locations page
[11:19] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.htm
[11:19] <obany> i think that page says enough ..
[11:20] <QueenVee> Sam: well, that's already been done.... in the safe locations document....
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[11:21] <HBO> obany, could you tell if the new pix show much change from Dec 28?
[11:21] <franci66> hi queen
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[11:21] <Bailey> hello people
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[11:23] <QueenVee> hello VB:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 90 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[11:23] <VB> hiya
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[11:24] <VB> I didn't realise you were starting a session... sorry is it for members only
[11:24] <QueenVee> VB: no, open to the public
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[11:25] <VB> ok.. do I have to submit a question ..?
[11:25] <QueenVee> Hello ETN:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 90 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[11:25] <sotos> QV: I don't want to ask something particular except, If is possible one "yes" or "no" of the validity of that information http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo23b.htm
[11:25] <QueenVee> VB: lol, no, you don't HAVE to....
[11:27] <willshell> intresting question sotos, you can predict every EQ just by listening to your AM radio between 530 Khz and 1mhz.
[11:27] <willshell> wonder if it is true
[11:28] <QueenVee> uh, well, ok, i'll put that on the agenda....
[11:28] <sotos> Thanks QV
[11:29] <Nightbird> Queen, the Z's won't answer questions about specific locations, will they?
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[11:31] <Nightbird> I heard a prediction this week on Coast to Coast.. from a preist which said that there will be a earthquake in the 9.0 range in the Kansas City area in the next three months.
[11:31] <Nightbird> a caller said there have already been a couple of quakes there in the last little while of 3.0 range
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[11:32] <Nightbird> This priest also believes in PX
[11:32] <QueenVee> Nightbird: they won't answer specific questions about where and when earthquakes will occur... if that's what you mean....
[11:32] <Bailey> good morning willshell
[11:32] <Nightbird> OK.. that is what I thouhgt.. thanks, Queen
[11:32] <QueenVee> hello rstefdc:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 90 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so ask away....
[11:33] <QueenVee> CORRECTION:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about ONE HOUR. I am currently considering questions for the agenda.
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[11:36] <sahir> You are?  I thought they had to be emailed to you prior
[11:36] <ETN> i was wondering how much it cost to have a talk with Nancy in real life and if she is very busy?
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[11:36] <willshell> ETN she wont do personal counseling
[11:37] <ETN> oh.. why??   i'm willing to pay for it..
[11:37] <InSoMniaC420> lol..
[11:37] <willshell> you can ask but she wont do it hehe
[11:37] <QueenVee> sahir: nope. if you have a question you'd like on the agenda, propose it now...
[11:37] <ETN> ok i'll ask her in private...
[11:38] <QueenVee> ETN: oh, yeah, that 'll be sure to get a response.... not....
[11:38] <sotos> I count 40 People in Chat...I wonder a So Big Subject sould have houndreds or thousand of people..
[11:38] <QueenVee> Franci poses the following question: will the new Human-Zeta hybrid form be the only form where STO souls eventually incarnate in the Aftertime or are other alien races developing their own hybrid program? Will we have other genetic contributions (like Pleiadean or Sirian or whatever), considering the hundreds of alien races involved in the Awakening?
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[11:38] <willshell> lots of people ask for that ETN, 5 years ago or so she used to do it, not any more
[11:38] <sahir> Was curious why there seems to be a big difference in level of weather disturbances from area to area
[11:39] <QueenVee> Franci: that question has already been asked and answered: the zetas are the only ones undertaking a hybrid program on earth
[11:39] <ETN> willshell: i see... thanx for the information..
[11:39] <QueenVee> sahir: can you be more specific?
[11:39] <sahir> Like in Europe, they've been getting pounded, but on teh East Caost US around the Bay area, the affects have been minimal
[11:40] <rstefdc> are today's new set of images showing anything new?
[11:40] <QueenVee> sahir: there have been severe storms all over the US, particularly on the East and West Coasts....
[11:40] <sahir> Not that I've seen
[11:40] <ETN> rstefdc> i think its better to ask Nancy about it in the Zetatalk session later
[11:40] <sahir> I live here,
[11:40] <sahir> I oughta know
[11:40] <QueenVee> sahir: where specifically do you live?
[11:41] <QueenVee> Maryland?
[11:41] <sahir> Maryland, right along the Chesapeake Bay
[11:41] <QueenVee> no, maryland hasn't been hit, but other areas have -- check out the news archive on www.shift2003.com....
[11:41] <willshell> sahir, if that area is not covered already, then question will probly get answered
[11:41] <sahir> Now we did have bad droughts the last two summers and very mild winters (until this one).
[11:42] <franci66> Queen do you remember where my Q. has been answered? Is it a decision from the Council of Worlds? why this exclusivity to Zetas regarding hybrids?
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[11:42] <QueenVee> ZT has never predicted that every area on earth will experience weather extremes....
[11:42] <QueenVee> franci: hold on....
[11:43] <sahir> True, but shouldn't there be some kind of difference in every area?
[11:43] <QueenVee> why?
[11:43] <sahir> If the dynamics of weather are changing worldwide then seems to make sense that every area should change somehwat
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[11:44] <cmell> hello
[11:44] <QueenVee> since not every area will be affected by the poleshift itself, doesn't it make sense that not every area will experience the same weather extremes?
[11:44] <Bailey> hi cmell
[11:44] <Michaellss> i grew up in essex maryland
[11:44] <Michaellss> :)
[11:44] <IaNZ> Q  There are more than one race of zetas, Are there different races iof hybrids.  ??
[11:45] <QueenVee> sahir: i live in southwestern ontario, and all we've experienced is much hotter summers and much milder winters.... but that's been odd enough to convince me....
[11:45] <sahir> Perhaps, but considering that I live on the coast of the stretching Atlantic Ocean, seems to me I should've seen something by now
[11:45] <QueenVee> why?
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[11:45] <sahir> Rising tides at leastt
[11:46] <QueenVee> they're not due to happen there yet
[11:46] <sahir> That was one of Nancy's predictions
[11:46] <QueenVee> did she say WHEN they would happen?
[11:46] <sahir> 4 months out, the basin's strecthing and tides aren't changin yet?  
[11:46] <sahir> OK, not that I'm in a big hurry mind you
[11:46] <rstefdc> I live in italy, and changes in wheater are quite noticeable here, not to mention stromboli+etna relentless activity....
[11:47] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 45 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[11:47] <sahir> I know in Italy it is insane
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[11:47] <TerrorDactyl> changes in weather do not necessarily mean Px exists
[11:47] <Michaellss> other areas are insane also
[11:47] <QueenVee> hello JoeBeets:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 45 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[11:47] <sotos> I have to restart..
[11:47] <Bailey> it  has been a mild winter in the pacific northwest, fist time I have ever seen the lake not frozen this time of year
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[11:47] <sahir> Just had a freind come back from France and the weather was quite noticeable to her
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[11:48] <sahir> Europe is getting pounded, yet we here in MD seem to be crusing right along
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[11:48] <InSoMniaC420> sahir: since the effects on the US are less severe than the eastern part of the world, the weather here won't change as much
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[11:48] <sahir> Bout the only thing slightly wierd is that we are actually having a winter for the first time in many years
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[11:50] <Sano> hi
[11:50] <Sano> all
[11:50] <Michaellss> hey
[11:50] <cmell> hi
[11:50] <joebeets> I am a newbie to IRC.  I hope I can do it.  Question:  Going into the last 2-3 weeks before the shift, will the government set up roadblocks to halt migrations to safe areas?
[11:50] <QueenVee> you seem to be doing just fine, joebeets!
[11:50] <TerrorDactyl> everyone accepts there are weather changes - don't see how that can be caused by a planet currently well outside of our solar system
[11:50] <IaNZ> Sahir..Nancy said that she expected more earthquakes by now.  So she is in the same boat as us. Watching and waiting.
[11:50] <sahir> Queen - if you could craft a msg abotu the differences in weather affects I'd appreciate it
[11:51] <QueenVee> sahir: it's your question, you craft it -- i don't get the question to begin with
[11:51] <sahir> Oh
[11:51] <cmell> quest plz change your nick, or you will be disconnected
[11:51] <Nightbird> Terror, I think the weather problems stem from the core and magnetism.. at least what I read in ZT
[11:51] <obany> some questions are already answered, like the one about road  blockss
[11:51] <Michaellss> ya know how to change your name guest?
[11:51] <cmell> err guest
[11:51] <Sano> QueenVee how soon it starts???
[11:51] <QueenVee> joebeets: that was actually answered last week....
[11:51] <Michaellss> ask someone will help ya
[11:51] <Sano> QueenVee ZT session
[11:51] <IaNZ> Nancy does not predict ,Zetas do.  I am convinced they are quite different personalities,
[11:51] <QueenVee> Sano:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 45 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[11:51] <sahir> Just ask why some areas seem to be getting pounded with endless chaotic weather while other areas seem to be suffreing no ill affects
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[11:52] <QueenVee> VB asks: Where abouts in the world are the safe havens going to be / the places least affected by the devastation..?
[11:52] <sahir> Prob won't be around to hear the answer if it gets asked, but I'll read it later
[11:52] <sahir> tks
[11:52] <QueenVee> VB: that question is answered in the Safe Locations document: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[11:52] <QueenVee> hi cap: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[11:52] <QueenVee> sorry, strike that
[11:52] <TerrorDactyl> there is a new series on tonight by spielberg called taken here in the UK - was it any good when it was on in US?
[11:52] <joebeets> Whitley Strieber has just posted a journal entry justifying Bush's Iraq agression by arguing that failure to do it will cause starvation in the third world when oil prices spike.  Is Whiley a disinformation agent for the STS Zetas?
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[11:53] <lsd> me
[11:53] <lsd> ?
[11:53] <QueenVee> i have great admiration for Strieber, but he's quite clueless in some areas....
[11:53] <lsd> no, 3
[11:53] <QueenVee> hello lsd:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 45 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[11:54] <lsd> 3 yggrdrasils
[11:54] <lsd> dragon awakening
[11:54] <obany> joebeets: well i think that he is influenced by both sides
[11:54] <QueenVee> obany: interesting theory....
[11:54] <obany> TerrorDactyl: for what i know and read it's good
[11:54] <Bailey> lol queen, you have not lost your spunk
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[11:55] <VB> TerrorDacty: I saw that advertised.. Second episode is on BBC Choice right after..  I'm not sure but I think it's like the X-files with rerspect to being based on actual 50 year old files... leading up to present day.. 3 generations
[11:55] <scooby> brb
[11:55] <joebeets> Strieber grew up near me in San Antonio, Texas in a rich part of town.  He has mentioned that his family knows the Bush family.
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[11:55] <Nightbird> Does anyone know how long I can monitor the chat without being booted? I need to go help move some cattle.
[11:55] <QueenVee> NICK:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 45 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now...
[11:56] <Michaellss> should be ok
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[11:56] <Michaellss> ive left it on long time before
[11:56] <QueenVee> nightbird: no problem
[11:56] <Nightbird> Ok, Thank you Michaelss
[11:56] <Nick> QV: copy that
[11:56] <rstefdc> question for nancy: a comment on the Matrix V material
[11:56] <Nightbird> and Queen
[11:56] <Michaellss> :)
[11:56] <obany> Matrix V material ... what is that ... before you ask something provide some info
[11:56] <QueenVee> what the heck is the matrix v MATERIAL?>
[11:56] <Michaellss> link?
[11:57] <obany> yes, what the heck is that material ?
[11:57] <TerrorDactyl> Question for Nancy - why haven't all of the statues on Easter Island fallen over following previous poleshift/erthquake activity?
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[11:57] <obany> TerrorDactyl: you know that not every pole shift is a severe one, and the one that will occur this year will be very severe
[11:57] <TerrorDactyl> yes VB
[11:58] <lsd> question to Nancy, are the Zetas the only ETs out there who are allowed to share the poleshift info or is
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[11:58] <QueenVee> Terror: well, ZT provides info about why Stonehenge's stones didn't all fall, and why pyramids didn't fall -- check out those explanations and i think you'll get your answer
[11:58] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 45 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[11:58] <TerrorDactyl> ok
[11:58] <QueenVee> lsd: already answered in ZT -- they are NOT the only ones
[11:58] <ETN> rstefdc> have you tryed matrix materials ?
[11:58] <lsd> ok
[11:58] <Brent> Terrordactyl: saw the series here,(US). There is obvious confusion in the series between STO & STS. The same aliens are portrayed as both good and bad; no differientiation.
[11:58] <ETN> i dont really believe in it
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[11:59] <ETN> but it sure can help
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[11:59] <obany> lsd: check http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a132.htm
[11:59] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 35 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
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[11:59] <Nick> QV: this could be a question for Nancy -- ZT says Whitley Strieber was visited be STS & STO aliens.  But don't you have to be strongly STS to be visited by STS aliens, and have given off that brain-wave for a long time?
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[11:59] <TerrorDactyl> Question to Nancy - Have the Raelian cult really cloned a baby or is it a publicity stunt?
[12:00] <QueenVee> Nick: no, your assumption is not correct
[12:00] <obany> Nick: Heard about Undecided
[12:00] <Nick> Terror: publi. stunt it is.
[12:00] <QueenVee> Terror: already answered
[12:00] <TerrorDactyl> what was the answer/
[12:00] <QueenVee> no
[12:00] <TerrorDactyl> ok
[12:00] <rstefdc> matrix V material (val valerian...) http://www.trufax.org/welcomemsie.html   I'm currently reading the book.
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[12:01] <ETN> rs: cool tell us about it when you read it further
[12:01] <lsd> question to ZT, i am eating fewer and fewer bits, is it true the food has in recent years  got a higher frequency which still accelerates?
[12:01] <ETN> i've read some people read it like 3-4 times to help
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[12:01] <TerrorDactyl> question to nancy - why is tony blair geting cold feet over iraq and looking for a u-turn after spending so long 'in bed' with bush?
[12:01] <lsd> or am i becoming anorectic...
[12:01] <QueenVee> well, rstefdc: if you can't be bothered to give me a succinct summary of what it is, i can't be bothered to consider your question
[12:01] <Nick> obany: no no, but i mean i thought it required a significant effort on the part of the human, being constantly unsatisfied and enraged by its surroundings?
[12:01] <Endeavour3d> I think Stieber is a good person, he seems to want to tell people what he knows without BS, I've heard him on the radio many times, I can't say for sure though since I've never met him
[12:01] <obany> TerrorDactyl:  http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m75.htm
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[12:02] <Bailey> lsd, interesting ?, I am also eating less and sleeping less and less
[12:02] <lsd> bailey yes
[12:02] <Endeavour3d> s-l-e-e-p? what's that?
[12:02] <TerrorDactyl> question to nancy - why is tony blair geting cold feet over iraq and looking for a u-turn after spending so long 'in bed' with bush?
[12:02] <Nick> QV: Also, whitley strieber recalled in his books that the zetas that visited him had teeth -- and that those zetas were not nice...
[12:02] <lsd> the sleeping. i notice this in my family, we sleep less and less
[12:02] <Clonaid> me too but i think its because i want to more enjoy life before something may happen...
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[12:02] <QueenVee> Terror: that's not related to this channel; pose that one in the next session
[12:02] <Nick> QV: but not ALL of them
[12:03] <TerrorDactyl> ok
[12:03] <rnthomas> Hey QV: could you ask Nancy why stonehenge still aligns with the sunrise of summer solstice.  They would probably be able to provide me a bit more detail ...  This is more for ZT..
[12:03] <QueenVee> Nick: Strieber has never identified the greys he has met as "zetas"
[12:03] <Buddha_Away> rnthomas - good question
[12:03] <TerrorDactyl> can you pose it for me, as I am going to watch 'taken' in an hour
[12:03] <QueenVee> RN: why are you asking that? i gave you the links that answered that yeterday
[12:03] <lsd> QV, did you pick up the interest of Bailey and me?
[12:03] <Nick> QV: im assuming that some of the greys he met were STS zetas??
[12:03] <QueenVee> terror: no
[12:03] <obany> QueenVee: " Whitely was visited by entities from both orientations. He failed to differentiate. "  http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v21.htm
[12:03] <TerrorDactyl> why not?
[12:04] <QueenVee> terror: i don't want to
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[12:04] <TerrorDactyl> miss grumpy :(
[12:04] <QueenVee> hi JFull:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 35 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[12:04] <Endeavour3d> you mean 25 minutes
[12:04] <Buddha_Away> ha ha
[12:04] <Clonaid> TerrorDactyl> whats 'taken'  ?
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[12:04] <TerrorDactyl> spielberg mini series about aliens
[12:05] <Nick> clonaid: Si
[12:05] <Clonaid> oh
[12:05] <Endeavour3d> 25:8 to be precise
[12:05] <samsara2003> Hey Queen: How about if the Zetas could give any indication how long it will take before Rain water is considered harvestable for drinking...
[12:05] <rstefdc> queen: impossible to describe in a nutshell, but I'm sure zeta's know very well what matrix V material is all about....;)
[12:05] <rnthomas> You told me what you thought, that it you believed it was just at a stable point on the earth...  But I was asking for more detail if possible..  It's not mentioned on the link...
[12:05] <rnthomas> The pyramids, yes, not stonehenge...
[12:05] <QueenVee> samsara: answered
[12:05] <obany> rstefdc: no you have to provide some info ... even it's just from a part from that material
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[12:06] <Endeavour3d> samsara, it depends on your location, if I am correct in the direction of the air flow, where I live will have relatively clean air
[12:06] <lsd> Zetatalk Question, did you read the food question i wrote before?
[12:06] <QueenVee> RN: i gave you that link; don't be so lazy -- do a search of the site with the key word STONEHENGE and you'll find it
[12:06] <Domicile> Hi
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[12:06] <Michaellss> hi
[12:06] <TerrorDactyl> i live 5 miles away from stonehenge
[12:06] <QueenVee> lsd: no, i didn't; please restate
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[12:06] <Michaellss> wow bet its pretty there
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[12:07] <TerrorDactyl> well it's on salisbury plain which is a miltary artillery area
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[12:07] <Michaellss> hhmm
[12:07] <Endeavour3d> 23 minutes
[12:07] <Michaellss> 5 miles from stonehenge thats kinda sad...:(
[12:07] <QueenVee> sotos: can you give me that TroubledTimes link again, related to your question about earthquakes and radios?
[12:07] <lsd> Queenvee, i wondered if we are actually needing less and less food
[12:08] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m62.htm
[12:08] <QueenVee> lsd: why would you think that?
[12:08] <Michaellss> so close to it
[12:08] <Endeavour3d> if you are a small person I wouldn't think you would have to eat much
[12:08] <QueenVee> how would the coming poleshift cause us to require less food?
[12:08] <TerrorDactyl> well because of iraq, all you can hear at stonehenge at the moment is boom boom boom as they test and train for war
[12:08] <Nick> QV: im needin more and more food
[12:08] <Nick> lol
[12:08] <lsd> i eat less, i sleep less, things accelerate, we are rising in frequency as we speak
[12:08] <Endeavour3d> how did you come to that conclusion?
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[12:08] <QueenVee> lsd: could be the drugs you're taking
[12:08] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 25 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[12:09] <cmell> :)
[12:09] <lsd> ive never tried lsd
[12:09] <Michaellss> lol
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[12:09] <yggdrasil> liar
[12:09] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 25 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[12:09] <Clonaid> lol
[12:09] <lsd> i would like though, you fucking prejudicer
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[12:09] <QueenVee> lsd: one more outburst like that and you're gone
[12:09] <Clonaid> why is your nick LSD then?
[12:09] <Endeavour3d> did I miss something?
[12:09] <lsd> why are you grown ups often so
[12:09] <lsd> i like lsd
[12:09] <Clonaid> oh
[12:09] <lsd> im listening to as song called lsd
[12:09] <Clonaid> LSD the techno group
[12:09] <Clonaid> i see
[12:09] <QueenVee> DROP IT NOW PEOPLE, OR YOU'RE KICKED
[12:10] <yggdrasil> yea
[12:10] <GabbleRatchet> Good ole' lysergic acid.
[12:10] <yggdrasil> or your kicked
[12:10] <Michaellss> but people usually pick names on the net that mean something to em ya know...:)
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[12:10] <Clonaid> hallucinogen - lsd   << very good song :)
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[12:10] <phoenix> Hello
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[12:10] <Nick> haha lol
[12:10] <QueenVee> hello phoenix:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 25 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
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[12:10] <GabbleRatchet> Oi! Why the boot?
[12:10] <lsd> yes LSD - HALLUcinogen is a good song!!!!!!!!!!! so kick me too and screw FREEDOM!
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[12:11] <QueenVee> who's next?
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[12:11] <Michaellss> ?
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[12:11] <Endeavour3d> can someone explain what just happened?
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[12:12] <phoenix> Zetas have stated that in human/hybrid intermarriage, offspring would be born in vitro (our term), an it is the genetics of the parents, plus.  Q:  Will the 'braiding' of human genes into the hybrid genetic strand continue?  Can the Zs clarify this process?
[12:12] <Dim> In the after time one of the main goals will be the survival of the service to other.  Would it behoove individuals to actively persue the release of those service to others that may be held against their will
[12:12] <Clonaid> maybe because we were far from the subject of this channel
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[12:12] <QueenVee> Phoenix: okay, quetsion accepted
[12:12] <QueenVee> hello whitebear:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 20minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
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[12:13] <Endeavour3d> 18 minutes
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[12:13] <QueenVee> Phoenix: could you please find the specific link related to that question, to help me formulate it better?
[12:13] <whitebear> hello QueenVee
[12:13] <obany> be serious here now please....... and ask serious questions please, if you can't come on any questions, then check www.zetatalk.com  
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[12:13] <Shaman464> hi queen
[12:14] <Endeavour3d> this is #poleshiftdiscussion, which, I don't know, should be about discussing the pole shift?
[12:14] <QueenVee> hi shaman:  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 20minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[12:14] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h20.htm
[12:15] <QueenVee> Dim: i don't understand your question... obviously the zetas aren't going to say no....
[12:15] <Shaman464> do you know if shes gunna say anything profoundly new in the after dark newsletter?
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[12:15] <Domicile> Q: As the comet's tail sweeps the Earth, will this occur as the Earth's rotation is stopped therefore only affecting one side of the Earth? If so where?
[12:15] <Endeavour3d> define "Held agains't their will" who exactly is holding them?
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[12:16] <QueenVee> PHOENIX: okay, to clarify your question, you want to know if the PLUS part will be both zetan and human genetics, or just zetan?
[12:16] <Endeavour3d> the side facing the tail probably?
[12:16] <obany> shaman64: http://www.artbell.com/afterdark/index.html
[12:16] <seastar> ? Has P. Bush just transfered comand central out of Tampa Florida because of the poleshift?
[12:16] <QueenVee> Domicile: yes, that's the case; it's been answered somewhere, but i guess it would'n't hurt to post the question again
[12:16] <Shaman464> Art bell site is gone
[12:16] <Endeavour3d> obany, Art's site was taken down last week remember?
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[12:17] <gus12340> Hello
[12:17] <Endeavour3d> wazza
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[12:17] <obany> Shaman464: yes yes, but if you click on this you will be transfered to the coasttocoast site
[12:17] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 15minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[12:17] <Clonaid> i wonder when the nasa is going to call PX as a "comet approaching our solar system"
[12:17] <GabbleRatchet> Philisophical question: Is the forthcoming pole shift a metaphorical extension of Hegel's dialectic unwinding itself through time; a synesis of new 'a priori' changing our unified reality?
[12:17] <Domicile> I looked here but did not find anything. http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p37.htm
[12:17] <phoenix> Yes, QV,  on the braiding part.  It was in the hybrid section, "intermarriage" I think.  Don't have the exact link.
[12:18] <DawnnaLee> Good Afternoon Everyone !!
[12:18] <QueenVee> Gabble: get real...
[12:18] <obany> i just gave the link
[12:18] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h20.htm
[12:18] <Sano> DawnnaLee> goodnight
[12:18] <QueenVee> got it, obany. thanks
[12:18] <GabbleRatchet> QueenVee: I am. I think that's a valid question.
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[12:18] <QueenVee> gabble: take your pretentiousness somewhere else
[12:18] * GabbleRatchet snorts.
[12:18] <Endeavour3d> it seems the Zetas don't usually go into much detail about certain subjects, it's an annoyance I have learned to deal with
[12:18] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 15minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[12:18] <anon> amen, Queen
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[12:18] <obany> for more about the Hybirds http://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h00.htm
[12:19] <obany> Hybrids
[12:19] <QueenVee> Endeavour: they have explained that they are often unable to, because of the RULES....
[12:19] <Endeavour3d> especially about the Akhashic Records etc
[12:19] <GabbleRatchet> QueenVee: Perhaps you could explain what, exactly, is wrong with my question.
[12:19] <Clonaid> hybirds?
[12:19] <Clonaid> oh
[12:19] <Clonaid> nm
[12:19] <obany> Hybrids
[12:19] <QueenVee> Gabble: if you don't drop it now, you can say goodbye
[12:19] <Clonaid> saw it after sorry
[12:19] <Endeavour3d> I'm not tlaking about all subjects QV, just certain ones
[12:19] <obany> %BHybrids
[12:19] <obany> woops
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[12:19] <Endeavour3d> like who actually created Homo Sapiens
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[12:19] <johnigga> hello
[12:20] <Dim> Is there a way to know when one has properly given the call.  I know that the call is discussed on Zetatalk but I want to know if the Zeta and others who respond to the call ever acknowledge their response to one's call.
[12:20] <QueenVee> Edeavour: that's been asnwered very specifically -- it was no single race
[12:20] <Endeavour3d> first it says the PX beings did, then they said they didn't confusing as hell
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[12:20] <GabbleRatchet> This is interesting. I'm a philosophy student interested in the connection between the Zetans and idealism, pose a very on-topic question, and get talked down to.
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[12:20] <rstefdc> did nancy ever mentioned how far the "may 2003" date could be stretched?
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[12:21] <anon> i like that one rst
[12:21] <obany> Endeavour3d: Zetatalk never said that that those of Nibiru did it at first
[12:21] <franci66> Queen sorry I was disconnected did you answer my Q.? I missed it
[12:21] <QueenVee> Endeavour: you've misread it; they very clearly say it was NOT the annunaki
[12:21] <Endeavour3d> I think it says that not one race was the genetic contributer, I do not think it actually who says who created us
[12:21] <anon> how exact is the projected date?
[12:21] <QueenVee> anon: give or take a few days
[12:21] <Shaman464> hi ZP
[12:21] <serbeo> Q:what will happen first,stock market crash or implosion of a city?
[12:21] <obany> Endeavour3d: we started as apes ....  
[12:21] <Endeavour3d> I know that now, perhaps I just need to read the site again
[12:21] <QueenVee> serbeo: they're not going to answer that
[12:21] <Zetapal> Hi Shaman
[12:21] <anon> thanks Q, that's what i thought from the site
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[12:21] <Sano> illbb
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[12:21] <Bailey> ???? should a STO indevidual stay in an opressive STS dominant comunity to assist the undecided in becoming STO? and would leaving a predominantly sts community/ giving up on them, make you sts yourself?
[12:22] <QueenVee> Franci: sorry, i don't know what you're referring to....
[12:22] <Endeavour3d> obany, I'm not that ignorant
[12:22] <seastar> What about Zacaria S. coment about the shift NOT happening in May of 2003?
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[12:22] <Dan33> Q -- What would be the best way to protect our survival groups after the shift, from wanderers/scavengers
[12:22] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[12:22] <azul> Hello.
[12:22] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 15minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[12:22] <QueenVee> seastar: what about it?
[12:22] <Endeavour3d> 8 actually, it's 2:22
[12:22] <QueenVee> Dan33: answered
[12:22] <Clonaid> true en
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[12:22] <johnigga> queen: in what way will the zeta help?
[12:23] <Endeavour3d> to be specific, the session will start when Nancy gets here
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[12:23] <anon> give or take a day, he he
[12:23] <seastar> I was just thinking , why is he not saying when all of tese things will happen?
[12:23] <joebeets> Will Mount Cheaha in Alabama be a safe location from floods & tidalwaves in the shift?
[12:23] <Clonaid> does she still put ice cube on her laptop?
[12:23] <QueenVee> johnigga: answered
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[12:23] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 10 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[12:23] <franci66> the Q. about hybrids...why are Zetas the only ones in charge of the hybrid program? Who gave them the exclusivity?
[12:23] <Endeavour3d> to people even bother to read the site?
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[12:24] <Endeavour3d> god? maybe? Ra?
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[12:24] <Pilsgetttingmorewoodforthefire> hi all
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[12:24] <QueenVee> Franci66: read the HYBRIDS section
[12:24] <azul> Would it be any safety in the high mountains of southern Spain?
[12:24] <DawnnaLee> Queen, My son has finally accepted the pole shift...he wants to relocate to Texas..is that a good idea?
[12:24] <johnigga> queen: could you answer my q? cause i dont have the full insight on that answer
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[12:24] <Endeavour3d> who knows the inner workings of the....galactic? government?
[12:24] <obany> azul: has been explained, check the safe locations page
[12:24] <cmell> hi PilsDB
[12:24] <Endeavour3d> Texas would be inherently bad
[12:25] <QueenVee> johnigga: come to the chatroom some other time, and i'll be glad to; right now i'm considering questions for the agenda -- questions that haven't been asked or answered yet
[12:25] <Endeavour3d> move to mid-west, like Kansas or Nebraska, mid part
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[12:25] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this room will begin in about 10 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda, so if you have one, please pose it now....
[12:25] <johnigga> queen: ok, sorry
[12:25] <azul> Obany: it has not been fully explained, but I accept.
[12:25] <Dan33> Q -- Any new imaging of PX?
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[12:25] <Endeavour3d> maybe Wisconson(sp?)
[12:25] <NancyL> Hello all.  
[12:26] <QueenVee> HI NANCY
[12:26] <cmell> hi
[12:26] <Michaellss> Hi
[12:26] <willshell> Hiya Nancy
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[12:26] <azul> hi
[12:26] <gus12340> Hi
[12:26] <Domicile> Hi Nancy
[12:26] <Sano> hi
[12:26] <rstefdc> hi there
[12:26] <johnigga> hi
[12:26] <Earth420> hello
[12:26] <Dim> Is there something that we can do to help those sto's who find themselves amid sts's against their will after the poleshift?
[12:26] <NancyL> Jurian, the nonprofit server was just rebooted, had gone down I don't know why, in case you had an email out there for me.
[12:26] <Endeavour3d> 3 minutes early
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[12:27] <NancyL> Have not accessed email last 24 hours.  However, I know the server was up yesterday.
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[12:27] <obany> Hello NancyL
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[12:27] <seastar> Greetings with love
[12:27] <Endeavour3d> must have been the government
[12:27] <NancyL> Queen, I am read whenever you are, one announcement to make.
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[12:27] <Captain_nibiru> hello nancy
[12:27] <Endeavour3d> that's a joke
[12:27] <Shaman464> hi nancy
[12:27] <Dim> Is there any way that we can help Nancy other than with donations before the shift?
[12:28] <Endeavour3d> all things considered, I believe she is helped quite more than most
[12:28] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session begin shortly. If you have a question for the agenda, please give it to me privately. Moderation mode will be on while Nancy does ZetaTalk (no one else can speak), but there will be opportunity for follow-up questions.
[12:28] <joebeets> Hi NancyL
[12:28] <QueenVee> okay nancy
[12:28] <NancyL> ANNOUNCEMENT: Jan 10th Images just now available from the web: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas26.htm
[12:28] <Endeavour3d> well, in relation to the Zetas, god helps the rest etc
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[12:30] <QueenVee> Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session is now in progress. If you have a question for the agenda, please give it to me privately. Moderation mode will be on while Nancy does ZetaTalk (no one else can speak), but there will be opportunity for follow-up questions.
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[12:31] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session is now in progress. If you have a question for the agenda, please give it to me privately. Moderation mode will be on while Nancy does ZetaTalk (no one else can speak), but there will be opportunity for follow-up questions.
[12:31] <QueenVee> NANCY: ARE YOU READY TO BEGIN?
[12:31] <NancyL> Yes, lets begin!!!
[12:32] <QueenVee> FIRST QUESTION: Will the tail of PlanetX sweep the earth while the Earth’s rotation is stopped, therefore only scattering debris on part of the earth? If so, which areas will be affected/not affected? And from which direction will the debris from the tail come?
[12:32] <QueenVee> FIRST QUESTION: Will the tail of PlanetX sweep the earth while the Earth’s rotation is stopped, therefore only scattering debris on part of the earth? If so, which areas will be affected/not affected? And from which direction will the debris from the tail come?
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[12:32] <NancyL> ZT: We have mentioned that the tail CURLS toward the Earth, pulled by gravity and magnetic and other attractants, thus red dust lands hours before the point of passage.
[12:33] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, red dusting is a countdown clue, that only hours remain.
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[12:33] <NancyL> ZT: The Earth, at this point, has been stopped in its rotation for days, approximately a week.
[12:34] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, since the South Pacific is more in line with where the tail is COMING from, will this be the spot where the lick of the tail is first experienced?
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[12:35] <NancyL> ZT: Dust clouds, as anyone experiencing a sand storm will attest, have a life of their own.
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[12:35] <NancyL> ZT: The cloud itself exists because there is some kind of GLUE holding it together.
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[12:36] <NancyL> ZT: The dust clings to the debris which clings to the larger debris such as moons, and these cling to Planet X.
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[12:36] <NancyL> ZT: There is more than gravity involved, as this is too simplistic an explanation, and more than magnetism though the iron ore is certainly more magnetically active than most dust clouds.
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[12:37] <NancyL> ZT: The tail streams behind Planet X, which is moving rapidly and has been during the preceding months, and is involved in swirling motions as the Moons have a dance between themselves.
[12:38] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, there is MOTION already.
[12:38] <NancyL> ZT: A tail swirl, moving like a slow moving tornado, approaches Earth which has magentic as well as gravity attraction.
[12:39] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, it is not simply a HEAD-ON hit, tail to Earth, as it is also a SIDEWAYS hit from swirling matter coming from this or that side.
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[12:39] <NancyL> ZT: Then there is the motion of a tail swirl being curled toward Earth, continuing the CURL.
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[12:40] <NancyL> ZT: Like a whip that curls around what it is thrown against, the tail can warp all AROUND the Earth during such a lick.
[12:40] <NancyL> ZT: There are no parts of the globe that do NOT report red dust, frankly.
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[12:41] <NancyL> ZT: It is prehaps more extreme on those sides of the globe that will be facing the approach, but elsewhere is not exempt.
[12:41] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?
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[12:41] <cmell> wouldn't the dust, if magnetic in nature, tend to be guided by the earths magnetic field ?
[12:41] <n18> Will the tail look like 666?
[12:41] <phoenix> What about larger debris, is there any particular area of concentration or direction for these?
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[12:41] <BobS> Will this dust reach the dark side of earth before the cataclysms begin?
[12:41] <gsw11> is the dust poisonous?
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[12:42] <NancyL> ZT to Phoenix: Debris follows the pattern of the tail, all being included in the dynamics.
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[12:43] <NancyL> ZT: Debris toward the END of a moon swirl that is curling toward the Earth and giving it a tail lick, so to speak, may be as massive and likely to cause damage as debris toward the Planet X portion of the tail.
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[12:43] <NancyL> ZT: Look to the planets in the Ecliptic, with the more MASSIVE at outer orbits.
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[12:44] <NancyL> ZT: The planets have their postions, their placement, for various reasons, and SIZE is not the determinant as to what is closest to the gravitations giant, the Sun.
[12:44] <NancyL> ZT: In like manner, larger debris may in fact be trailing smaller, within a moon swirl trailing behind Planet X.
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[12:45] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, all parts of the globe report debris, China as well as Egypt, in the past.
[12:45] <NancyL> End ZT to PHoenix.
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[12:45] <Tcards> would there not be a larger amount of falling debris east to west on the long day side and west to east on the long night side?
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[12:45] <phoenix> Thanks
[12:45] <smurr> Would the red dust be from a previous encounter with Mars and PX.
[12:45] <BobS> Can we expect any small moons to crash into earth?
[12:45] <NancyL> BobS, yes, dusting is a precursor, BEFORE the shift./
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[12:46] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION:  The Zetas have stated that in human/hybrid intermarriage after the shift, offspring will be born in vitro (our term), "from the genetics of the parents, plus". Will the genetic "plus" be zetan only, or also human, or possibly from other species as well?  
[12:46] <NancyL> ZT to Tcards: Debris, as with red dust, may have a slight weight to the sides of the Earth facing the approaching Planet X complex, but from the standpoint of an individual worries about having a boulder land on his head, the odds are so CLOSE as to be statistically insignificant, as to which side of the Earth you are on.
[12:46] <NancyL> End ZT to Tcards.
[12:47] <NancyL> ZT to Smurr: The red dust cloud evolved as many planets in the solar system are heavy in this element, Mars, for instance.
[12:48] <NancyL> ZT: There are portions of the Earth that exhibit a red clay soil, Australia and the Southeastern US, but this is not a NATIVE soil as much as an accumulation of deposits.
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[12:49] <NancyL> ZT: During the breakup of the Asteroid Belt, many planets that had this element, heavily, were pelted to pieces.
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[12:49] <NancyL> ZT: Molten lava spewed into space became the asteroids.
[12:50] <NancyL> ZT: Iron ore is magnetically configured to pull OUT of any soup it is free to move within, and does so particularly in space.
[12:50] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, the dust, during poofing off into space during demolition derby's as Planet X and its complex of Moons moved through what is now the Asteroid Belt, MOVED, and became part of the Planet X tail.
[12:51] <NancyL> ZT: Planet X, like a bigt magnet, swept through the area during the poofing phase, and emerged with a larger dust cloud, each time.
[12:51] <NancyL> End ZT to Smurr.
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[12:52] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION:  The Zetas have stated that in human/hybrid intermarriage after the shift, offspring will be born in vitro (our term), "from the genetics of the parents, plus". Will the genetic "plus" be zetan only, or also human, or possibly from other species as well?  
[12:52] <NancyL> BobS, the Z's have stated that no Moon collisions can be expected, they hug Planet X.
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[12:53] <NancyL> ZT: The hybrids today are a mix of DNA from their parents, Zetas, human ancestors in some instances, and repareative DNA where needed.
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[12:53] <NancyL> ZT: The hybrid child certainly has MAMY parents, in this regard.
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[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: Those Special Children who have been born among human society with Zeta genetics as well as human genetics are carried by the human parent.
[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: However, the egg and sperm are mixed, in a test tube kind of setting, and then implanted back into the mother.
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[12:56] <NancyL> ZT: The necessary party here is the MOTHER, who can arrive on a space ship for a visitation, a visit to her GYN so to speak, with a ripe egg just released into her ovaduct due to what humans often call a "baby-maker" love making session, as well as sperm aplenty in her vagina.
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[12:56] <NancyL> ZT: The egg is removed, the sperm removed, the geneticists do their work and reimplant the fertilized egg.
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[12:58] <NancyL> ZT: In similar manner, in the Aftertime, the parents of a pending child having given the Call for their offspring to have the best life possible, the mother would be treated in this fashion after sex between the human parents.
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[12:58] <NancyL> ZT: At some point, when humans and hybrids are living together, intermarried, and the concept of large brainy hybrids as children is not foreign, incubation for the latter part of the pregnancy would NOT be in utero.
[12:59] <NancyL> ZT: These are all matters subject to being delayed, or expedicted, depending upon the readiness of the humans involved.
[12:59] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?
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[12:59] <Mindoid> wouldn't that create a discriminatory and hyper-competitive scenario such as what's depicted in the movie GATACA?
[12:59] <gyflex> what special attributes do those children born of human and zeta genetics portray that can be recognised today in our societies? people report that some children are born with a veil over their faces; is this a pointer to recognise these special kids?
[12:59] <didi> What percentage of the children born since 1980 have three DNA strands?  What is the purpose?
[12:59] <Thunderoc> Will service to other human populations continue to exist and flourish on other planets than earth after the shift?  Question #2 considering Hybrids bodies have had thier curvey hips downsized ...was this nesasary and was this done with a 'leaning' towards Zeta visual desires?
[12:59] <bearz> Nancy, is this why so many new souls nowadays (Children) appear to be psychic and intuitive on Earth?
[12:59] <joebeets> Years ago I visited the Caversn of Luray Virginia, and was struck by the fact that all the older formations were covered with a layer of red clay which had been deposited by water dripping down from the strata above.  I thought of Velikovsky then.
[12:59] <smurr> thank you Nancy & ZT
[12:59] <phoenix> Fascinating, thank you!
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[13:00] <NancyL> Mondoid, STO are not hypercompetitive, quite the opposite.
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[13:00] <obany> didi: check special children in the hybrid section has been answered
[13:00] <NancyL> Gyflex, Secial Children, as it states in the existing ZT, are NOT revealed for what they are by their parents.
[13:01] <NancyL> ZT: They appear normal, for your purposes.  Exceptional behavior is kept very secret, not talked about, by their parents.
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[13:01] <NancyL> Opps, not ZT.
[13:01] <NancyL> And as to what those characteristics are, NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!
[13:02] <NancyL> Thunder, the Z's have stated that man as a pure strain man persist on Earth if the spirit incarnated desire this, but unlikely.
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[13:02] <NancyL> If existing at the shift, and scheduled to go to STS worlds, they MAY go as humans because the STS have such high infant mortality that they don't have bodies for all their STS spirits to inhabit.
[13:03] <NancyL> ZT: They don't care for their babies, any more than for each other.
[13:04] <NancyL> Thunder, the Hybrids are thin, yes, but due to Zeta DNA I suspect.  And since birth will NOT be in utero for hybrids, why bother with child bearing hips?
[13:05] <NancyL> Bearz, you cannot assume an intuitive child to be a Special Child, as they may just be incarnated with a strong spirit, etc.
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[13:05] <NancyL> Gyflex, born with a veil over their faces?  No, this is not an indication.
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[13:06] <obany> bearz: http://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h30.htm
[13:06] <QueenVee> nancy: ready for next question?
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[13:06] <NancyL> Gyflex, I will not entertain "no" to each of your questions re this, you are NOT to know the characteristics, and getting a "no" to each will help you define their characteristics.
[13:06] <NancyL> Your are NOT to know!
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[13:07] <NancyL> Yes, Queen!
[13:07] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION:
[13:07] <QueenVee>  PREAMBLE:  According to interviewed firemen, the recent fires in the state of New South Wales in Australia showed an aggressive nature where the fires would burn bush & trees and then turn back on itself and reburn the same area again, but this time the aggressiveness of the fire made the fire turn again and burn in a forward direction again.
[13:07] <obany> and i agree Nancy ... about the special children
[13:07] <QueenVee>  QUESTION: Is this phenomenon (which the firemen said they had never seen before) in any way related to the earthchanges that are precipitating the passage of PlanetX? If so, does it provide a clue as to how fires may behave during and after the poleshift?
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[13:08] <NancyL> ZT: Many normal weather, disease, or animal behavior is noted during rapid change, and attributed to some exceptional cause.
[13:09] <NancyL> ZT: This has occurred during the past few years in regard to weather, in a reverse fashion, as the establishment is quick to point out that at SOMETIME in the past there was such a drought, such a storm, or such a warm day in winter or a cold day in summer.
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[13:10] <NancyL> ZT: They are, in this, seeking to diminish the reaction among the populace that weather has gotten EXTREME, which it has, even within the memory of man.
[13:11] <NancyL> ZT: Should patterns showing the switching about, from deluge to drought, or the extremes reached in both directions, this would NOT be a part of previously known patterns.
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[13:12] <NancyL> ZT: In illness, we are frequently asked if this or that seeming epidemic is manmade, or bio-terrorism, when it is just existing germs affecting those with reduced immune systems, or existing germs in NEW places, or unknown germs now becoming prominant.
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[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: Nevertheless, these germs are not NEW, even if unknown, and the increased illness is due to dropping immune systems, migrating germs, and opportunistic germs.
[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: Animal behavior also has been noted as almost crazed, where animals normally passive and seekin