Session Start: Mon Jan 13 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <Richard> is depacoat the name of a plant or medicine?
[00:00] <humvee> only climate changing fm cold 2 tropical so worysome
[00:00] <humvee> its med
[00:01] <Richard> yeah this whole event is certainly a test on us all
[00:01] <humvee> plant wife isworking on it is usually a combo of a number o plants
[00:01] <humvee> can use what is found if has rite med in makeup
[00:02] <humvee> wife is better @ med plants
[00:02] <Richard> the maori people have knowledge of medicinal plants
[00:03] <Richard> but they hold that knowledge very very close to their chests
[00:03] <humvee> yes i heard trhat fm my teacher in plants - back 1 min coffee
[00:03] <Richard> if you do a search on tradional maori food receipes for instance you will find nothing
[00:04] <Richard> the info used to be available but they seem to have taken it all down
[00:05] <humvee> yea i know but the same plants r mostly all over the pacific
[00:05] <humvee> at least some o them
[00:05] <Richard> the american Indian people I admire
[00:06] <Richard> well the latter maori explorer to NZ came from the pacific islands
[00:06] <humvee> there is a commom thread by family n genus so a Kahuna (teacher/herbalist) can find them even if diff variation
[00:06] <Richard> so the plant knowledge should be similiar'
[00:07] <Richard> do you have any URL's for herbal medicines?
[00:07] <humvee> true - everyone here wrote a book so lots of info even on thenet
[00:07] <Richard> walt: sorry should have said hello :+)
[00:08] <humvee> my teacher went 2 mainland usa 2 scout safe location
[00:08] <humvee> he is a chiropractor herbalist and into botany
[00:08] <Richard> have good luck in finding a place?
[00:09] <humvee> well he thinks west coast mountains r good
[00:09] <humvee> i think he will get stuck there if during ps
[00:10] <walt> http://www.rain-tree.com/plantdrugs.htm
[00:10] <humvee> he will be willing 2 consider zt more when i canshow him pic o px
[00:10] <Richard> Wisconsin sounds safe
[00:10] <humvee> yes and also Minesota & canada parts
[00:10] <Richard> thanks for link
[00:11] <Richard> you should see what NZ is supposed to go through
[00:11] <Richard> tidal wave for south Island
[00:11] <Richard> tidal wave for entire area Auckland & northwards
[00:12] <Richard> and volcano activity for what's left of the north island
[00:12] <Richard> I'm in the north island
[00:12] <humvee> hav 2 go high n away fm volcanos
[00:12] <Richard> yep
[00:12] <Richard> there is a pocket up high that (I hope) will be safe
[00:13] <humvee> lived w/a nz family in oahu a few years ago - great folks
[00:13] <humvee> wife is maory
[00:13] <walt> http://www.realtime.net/anr/herbs.html
[00:13] <Richard> they white nz or maori nz?
[00:13] <walt> http://www.egregore.com/
[00:15] <humvee> need 2 find ur own plants eventually and making them is not hard
[00:15] <Richard> thanks walt
[00:16] <humvee> most can b made into tea
[00:16] <Richard> we are collecting lots of seed ... of everything
[00:16] <humvee> good
[00:16] <Richard> amazing what you learn
[00:16] <humvee> tinctures r not the best way i was taught too much
[00:17] <humvee> = too strong not as good
[00:17] <Richard> for instance DO NOT plant different species of pumpkin within 500 metres of each other
[00:17] <walt> are you collecting open pollenating seeds "heirloom"
[00:17] <humvee> beter to take at normal dosages can make strong tea is enough
[00:17] <Richard> and don't put the diffrent pumpkin seed in the same bag
[00:18] <Richard> attempting to humvee (heirloom seeds)
[00:18] <humvee> yes walt is rite our dad is doing the seeds as is gardener
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[00:19] <walt> expect about 1/3 less yeild than the hybrid seeds
[00:19] <humvee> is that the time out?
[00:20] <Richard> that's why you have to collect more of each seed variety so more can be planted out
[00:20] <humvee> walt u let go 2 seed then so hav as much?
[00:20] <humvee> oh rite
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[00:21] <Richard> welcome back guys
[00:21] <islander> anyone notice what happened
[00:21] <walt> what?
[00:21] <walt> ISL- yep I did
[00:21] <Richard> may have been a net split ... don't know
[00:22] <islander> San Jose server just disconnected for a few seconds
[00:22] <humvee> they all quit at once a time out?
[00:22] <walt> you all just up and quit
[00:22] <islander> server disconnect
[00:22] <Richard> you not talking enough so it timed you out :+)
[00:22] <walt> yep looks like it
[00:22] <humvee> system op playing w/da plug no doubt
[00:22] <islander> or talking too much?
[00:22] <Richard> another 10 cents in the meter please
[00:23] <humvee> hehe
[00:23] <Richard> :+)
[00:23] <Richard> what's weather like in hawaii at moment humvee?
[00:23] <Richard> here its very humid
[00:24] <humvee> here cold (70 deg f) but beautiful
[00:25] <Richard> we talk in celcius here. 70f would be about 13c? ...anyone?
[00:25] <humvee> we dont want 2 get 2 MN too soom well freeze
[00:25] <Richard> too true
[00:25] <humvee> 70 deg = temp o hosp room
[00:26] <Richard> hmm horp room would be maybe 18 - 20c
[00:26] <humvee> mostly is 80 deg in hawaii all the time
[00:26] <walt> 70 = 21c
[00:26] <humvee> 80 = brite sunny beach on cloths np
[00:26] <Richard> you call 21c cold ...argh
[00:27] <humvee> clothing optional
[00:27] <Richard> that's pleasant
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[00:27] <Richard> :+)
[00:27] <humvee> we wear coats if we go into a coffee shop too cold in ac
[00:28] <Richard> lol
[00:28] <Richard> hi Sarah
[00:28] <humvee> hawaiian AC is windows rolled down
[00:28] <Richard> AC ... only the rich have AC here
[00:29] <humvee> hello Sarah
[00:29] <humvee> only the rich even want AC here
[00:29] <humvee> we have it but dont turn it on
[00:29] <SarahKim> hey
[00:30] <SarahKim> i'm scared
[00:30] <SarahKim> i have to move
[00:30] <humvee> I fix it sometimes for restaurants
[00:30] <Richard> same
[00:30] <humvee> where r u Sarah?
[00:30] <Richard> know where your going?
[00:30] <SarahKim> los angeles
[00:30] <humvee> LA will be loosing beaches soon
[00:31] <Richard> how is life in la at present
[00:31] <humvee> have you any relitives or friends in other places?
[00:32] <Richard> take a deep breath
[00:32] <Richard> and relax
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[00:33] <Richard> did it again
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[00:34] <Richard> Sarah do you have friends/family outside of la
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[00:35] <Richard> are you currently employed
[00:36] <humvee> click on the box below then u can type an answer
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[00:38] <humvee> SaraKim are you still there?
[00:38] <Richard> do you want us to just keep talking amongst ourselves and you watch the conversation?
[00:38] <Richard> thats cool by me
[00:39] <Richard> you humvee?
[00:40] <Richard> we were talking about herbs as a treatment in place of drug store bought medicine
[00:40] <Richard> what to use in place of medicine not avalable in the drugstore
[00:41] <SarahKim> what about ginkgo biloba
[00:41] <Richard> never heard of that one myself
[00:41] <humvee> yes stimulates brain function
[00:42] <Richard> done a web search on it
[00:42] <Richard> interesting
[00:42] <humvee> might work 4 anti seisure med
[00:43] <Richard> where is it native too?
[00:43] <humvee> comon ginger is good also & small red peper also
[00:44] <Richard> that's good ..have red pepper in the garden
[00:45] <Richard> which part of la are you in sara?
[00:46] <walt> Hi SONIK
[00:46] <Richard> crazy ...which door did he walk in
[00:46] <Richard> ~:+)
[00:48] <Richard> is this a track from metal machine music
[00:49] <Richard> white light white heat
[00:49] <humvee> richard got a site protecting the brain with ginko
[00:49] <humvee> will post
[00:50] <Richard> cool
[00:51] <humvee> http://angelfire.com/journal/betterlife/ginko.html
[00:52] <Richard> sarah have you read the zetatalk.com site?
[00:53] <Richard> where's scooby when you need him :+)
[00:54] <humvee> also Sarahkim: 4 information on Safe Locations see: www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.htm
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[00:54] <johnnie5> hey, all.
[00:54] <Richard> hey joh
[00:54] <humvee> just click on the link above and it will open for u on your browser
[00:55] <humvee> richard did u see that link on ginlo?
[00:55] <humvee> ginko?
[00:55] <Richard> yep thanks
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[00:55] <Richard> have clicked on it and will read later
[00:55] <humvee> ok cool
[00:56] <Richard> still heaps of reading to do
[00:56] <Richard> days are action packed
[00:56] <Richard> as still have to work
[00:57] <humvee> we r actively cutting r list short
[00:57] <humvee> selling hse short to go not fixing it
[00:57] <Richard> yes mentally you know the comfits can't go
[00:57] <Richard> as well
[00:57] <humvee> going w/2 bags cat n $
[00:58] <johnnie5> cat?
[00:58] <Richard> not sure if we will have dollars as nearly run well drive NOW
[00:58] <humvee> will arive in Minesota me and wife and cat
[00:59] <johnnie5> cat. cool. that's what i wondered.
[00:59] <humvee> u can do the next thing when ur at the destination
[01:00] <humvee> hi jonnie5
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[01:00] <WeNeRa> whaz upa
[01:00] <humvee> good wenie
[01:00] <WeNeRa> :)
[01:01] <johnnie5> you are coming to minnesota? i live in minnesota. where are you coming from?
[01:01] <humvee> oh WeNeRa is it
[01:01] <humvee> I m on Kauai hawaii
[01:01] <johnnie5> wow. hawaii. that's a journey.
[01:01] <WeNeRa> so folx,how bout joining me on my planet?:)
[01:02] <humvee> yea but no one here is preping and too small to hav to share with 50k ppl
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[01:02] <johnnie5> i know what you mean.
[01:03] <Richard> brb
[01:03] <humvee> we r hawaiian so share but limit is
[01:04] <humvee> we r going flu minn-st paul then drive west
[01:05] <johnnie5> i know what you mean. so many people but so little to share. there's not much you can do. sucks.
[01:06] <humvee> we posted our email on queens site: humvee@hawaiian.net so xchange email w/ppl who want 2 talk re moving 2 safe locations
[01:07] <humvee> we r pretty well set 2 goto Minesota as the rolling hills will have little change and much tech left
[01:07] <Richard> i'm too far away to work anything out except with family/friends
[01:08] <johnnie5> i don't know what to say, other than welcome to minnesota, and i hope i meet you along the way.
[01:08] <Richard> i'm in new zealand
[01:08] <humvee> yes but with some comon sense Richard you can pick a good place there
[01:08] <Richard> agreed humvee
[01:10] <humvee> also ppl who need to talk to someone safe richard can email queenvee who is in canada and has good ideas
[01:10] <Richard> but there must be many places in the usa that are safe
[01:11] <Richard> i did that and then asked queen to take it down
[01:12] <humvee> yes but ppl can email her 4 info thru link on www.shift2003.com/
[01:13] <Richard> hey if we don't make it we at least come back as reincarnated souls and hopefully we will learn the next time
[01:13] <humvee> tyre
[01:13] <humvee> true
[01:13] <johnnie5> queenvee does have good ideas. she cares about people and gives good advice.
[01:13] <humvee> too much coffee spilled on my keyboard
[01:13] <Richard> zz zzzz zzz zzzzz
[01:14] <johnnie5> goodnight, richard?
[01:14] <Richard> wow hEAVY rain just started from nowhere here
[01:15] <Richard> later
[01:15] <johnnie5> bye
[01:15] <humvee> bye
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[01:16] <humvee> johnnie5 what is hapening by u in MN
[01:17] <johnnie5> nothing at the moment. most are unaware.
[01:18] <humvee> yes it is the unusual person who wakes up in time
[01:18] <johnnie5> we..
[01:18] <humvee> true
[01:18] <johnnie5> get
[01:18] <humvee> i never thought i m a contactee - just overactive curiousty
[01:19] <humvee> read everything that makes me curious
[01:19] <humvee> ]coast 2 coast talking re cloning
[01:19] <johnnie5> unusual weather, but no hurricanes or earthquakes or what not, so not much is going on here.
[01:20] <humvee> that is good less is better
[01:20] <johnnie5> yep.
[01:20] <humvee> we hav more lava conimg out on big island o hawaii
[01:21] <humvee> i always thought 2 put old cars where lava comes out
[01:21] <johnnie5> you are not the only ones dealing with new lava.
[01:21] <humvee> but hawaiians thin it is insult 2 their god PELE
[01:22] <humvee> yea lava spouting all over the world
[01:22] <johnnie5> yep.
[01:23] <humvee> we hav had no huricanes nothing even starting and one is due
[01:24] <humvee> every 10 years is the pattern here
[01:25] <johnnie5> maybe WAS the pattern there. how about now, when so much is so different?
[01:25] <humvee> exactly patern broken
[01:26] <humvee> r u jus going 2 tie down n go thru ps where y r at home?
[01:27] <johnnie5> i chose a location just outside of the city. i don't know if it'll work, but it's what i've got.
[01:28] <humvee> we 2 r going 2 go outside Atwater tie down n 1/2 bury teardrop trailer
[01:29] <humvee> hav lots o airmattreses to fill up inside tear drop
[01:29] <humvee> LOL
[01:30] <humvee> we can bounce around but shud b ok becuz we r married!
[01:30] <johnnie5> how long have you known? i found out just six months away from pole shift. not much time to get ready.
[01:30] <humvee> well we heard re ps/px 2 years ago but blew it off
[01:31] <johnnie5> ugh.
[01:31] <humvee> then looked at science and history and got back on board
[01:31] <humvee> but so far not done anything but get more ready 2 leave
[01:32] <humvee> we will not actually buy anything till in MN
[01:32] <humvee> so u r ahead of us rite now!
[01:32] <johnnie5> ah. that was my next question. what made you believe. you answered that.
[01:33] <humvee> 1st heard mark hazelwood = "blindsided"
[01:33] <johnnie5> i'm a slow typer.
[01:34] <humvee> paljerized material but it got us going
[01:34] <humvee> i hav fat fingers n spill coffee all over things like keybrds
[01:34] <johnnie5> actually, i'm in the same boat.
[01:35] <humvee> good we shud b allright then
[01:35] <humvee> buy some pinto beans and rice(very cheap) put in 5 gal buckets
[01:36] <johnnie5> i saw zetatalk months ago, and got nothing from it. saw it again on art bell, clicked on the link, and now i know.
[01:36] <humvee> rite that is how it works - those who r supposed 2 make it find out not by accident!
[01:37] <humvee> if u read zetatalk & use ur head u will make it
[01:37] <johnnie5> i think you might be right.
[01:38] <humvee> of coarse i took lsd years ago and she told me that there were no coinsidinces
[01:38] <humvee> should hav capitalized "SHE"
[01:39] <johnnie5> nancy?
[01:39] <humvee> said "SHE" was idle n wanted 2 experience so made all this
[01:39] <johnnie5> ?
[01:40] <humvee> pretty simple - so allowed no coinsidence - experiences all outcomes with us
[01:41] <humvee> only offered cuz u brought it up Pretty girl at that i might add
[01:41] <johnnie5> can you explain?
[01:41] <humvee> well in the begining there was night ...
[01:41] <johnnie5> i'm curious.
[01:42] <humvee> sure u want the whole thing is kind o long n am slow typer LOL
[01:42] <johnnie5> sorry. me slow typer too.
[01:43] <humvee> jus take my word if u r here asking q re poleshift ur to make it
[01:43] <humvee> so ur job is 2 come thru UN-INJURED and well
[01:43] <johnnie5> it's ok if you don't want to say more. i understand and agree.
[01:43] <humvee> I look at it as a real challenge
[01:44] <humvee> hav 2 change everything i was doing 2 get ready
[01:44] <johnnie5> uninjured is a hope of mine.
[01:44] <humvee> is your intention / intention is defined as what is
[01:45] <humvee> u think I am going 2 make it and then I m going to do ......
[01:46] <humvee> this whole reality play works on thought-word-deed
[01:46] <humvee> u think it - u say it - u do it and it always works very powerful you are
[01:47] <johnnie5> i applied for a job. i probably won't get it because i don't think i qualify, but there is always hope.
[01:48] <humvee> some say i m trying thats not doing trying is that very trying but not any doing with being trying
[01:48] <humvee> do u see?
[01:48] <humvee> you know when i apply for a job i always say yes i can do this for you np
[01:49] <johnnie5> trying shows intent. it shows the heart. it counts.
[01:49] <humvee> i find to get work ppl want to hire someone who is very positive re doing the task
[01:50] <humvee> trying counts only in horseshoes
[01:50] <johnnie5> bullshit.
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[01:50] <humvee> doing is a state of being therefore is u demonstrating the higest version of who you are
[01:51] <humvee> we are here to demonstrate the higest version of the best idea of who we ever thought we are
[01:51] <humvee> sort of see where this goes
[01:52] <johnnie5> there are many that want to do, but cannot because of the situation they live in. the heart is there, the ability is not.
[01:52] <humvee> we all have abilitys we use them and the/we get better more practised
[01:53] <humvee> like a pianist
[01:53] <humvee> besides no time 2 try just do it
[01:54] <humvee> i am doing everything everyway i can cuz no time 2 do anything else
[01:54] <johnnie5> i will do my efforts in the aftertime, should i make it that far.
[01:55] <humvee> right i think i will hav more time 4 hobbys after
[01:55] <humvee> so i am getting ready now and after when raining etc can have plenty o time
[01:56] <humvee> u will make it that far as only a few months now to go
[01:56] <johnnie5> hobbies? helping injured and lost people is hardly a hobby, unless i misunderstood you.
[01:57] <humvee> no we plan to go collect the injured orphans etc
[01:57] <humvee> but i still want to do woodworking and 10 other things
[01:57] <humvee> my hobby will be useful
[01:57] <johnnie5> yes it will.
[01:58] <humvee> now i just work all the time fixing things soon 2 b underwater
[01:58] <johnnie5> bummer, ay?
[01:59] <humvee> i built a resturant it is aok filled up every nite but is across from the ocean
[01:59] <humvee> no it is fun but I know it will be underwater soon
[02:00] <humvee> the owner is in HARD denial
[02:00] <humvee> has been told many times re ps planet x but wont believe it
[02:01] <humvee> so i m leaving here with wife and going to the rolling hills we are so excited we cant stand it
[02:01] <johnnie5> my brother. lives in texas. soon to be under water. he doesn't believe a word, and won't listen to me.
[02:02] <humvee> do we sound like kids we r really u know
[02:02] <humvee> yes but if u told him he will have plenty o warning when everybody can see it
[02:03] <humvee> believe me he will save himself because he knows now
[02:03] <humvee> it is very hard when you have close relitives
[02:04] <humvee> the people in ur town & especially ur family will never believe you
[02:04] <humvee> except when they see it 4 themselves
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[02:05] <humvee> but dont go there get safe urself n he will do the rite thing
[02:05] <humvee> I have the same thing w/my bro n law wife's brother n family
[02:06] <humvee> I think they dont listen but in fact they know more from me tha anyone else here
[02:06] <johnnie5> i told him when it's visible in daytime if he wants to change his mind a location near the center of the continent is best.
[02:07] <humvee> yes he knows u did what u needed to - call him in 1st week of April
[02:08] <johnnie5> actually, he will probably call me.
[02:08] <humvee> he can drive to a safe place easily & in time
[02:08] <humvee> all roads lead from TEXAS
[02:08] <humvee> LOL
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[02:10] <humvee> it is midnite now & working am so got 2 go - I m always here so we can talk n joke around more later bye johnnie5
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[02:10] <johnnie5> you own a resturant?
[02:11] <humvee> no i built it 4 the guy - he is friend but very STS self oriented LOL
[02:11] <johnnie5> bummer.
[02:11] <humvee> bye
[02:12] <johnnie5> it's also four in the morning here.
[02:12] <humvee> actually learned alot fm him a study in STS - posing as a christian bye
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[02:13] <johnnie5> posing as a christian. wow. that's GOTTA be tough for her.
[02:15] <johnnie5> to the ten million people in this room that never say a word.
[02:16] <johnnie5> oh, they're here, just don't ever say anything.
[02:17] <johnnie5> helping people? ring a bell? sound familiar?
[02:18] <johnnie5> why you're here?
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[03:02] <obany> back in a sec
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[03:22] <amaroli> hello i am franco from italy
[03:22] <amaroli> where are you from?
[03:23] <amaroli> hello
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[03:23] <amaroli> nice to meet you
[03:23] <amaroli> ?
[03:23] <amaroli> ??
[03:23] <amaroli> ok
[03:23] <amaroli> bye bye
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[06:33] <amaroli> hello
[06:33] <amaroli> i am franco from italy
[06:33] <amaroli> anyone there??
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[08:14] <QueenVee> hello RN
[08:15] <RNTHOMAS> Hey QV, how goes it today...
[08:15] <QueenVee> i've had a very full morning, this is the first i've sat down since 7am this morning
[08:16] <QueenVee> my dog took me on some serious rabbit hunting this morning, then i completely cleaned the apartment when i got home....
[08:17] <RNTHOMAS> Wow, sounds like you've been kinda busy... Good to hear... Over the weekend, had the flu, and ended up having to work most of the weekend...
[08:17] <QueenVee> oh, not nice
[08:17] <RNTHOMAS> But suprisingly, I managed to kick it on Sunday (my rest day)... But got too much sleep, migrane last night...
[08:18] <RNTHOMAS> But took a pile of MSM to kick it, and I'm at work now feeling great...
[08:18] <QueenVee> migraines are not fun; i get them a lot
[08:18] <RNTHOMAS> No flu, or headache... lol!
[08:18] <QueenVee> i've discovered a new medication called Migranol -- it's a nasal spray you use when you have a migraine -- works really well
[08:19] <RNTHOMAS> I was studying a bit of material I picked up from my friends (all into phoenix archive stuff), and started learning about MSM...
[08:19] <RNTHOMAS> That could fix your migrane issue...
[08:19] <QueenVee> what's MSM?
[08:20] <RNTHOMAS> It's a sulfer compound, that is used by the body... It normally falls out of the sky, landing on our foods... Highly
[08:20] <RNTHOMAS> water soluble... It however once food is cleaned or left, soon loses the MSM...
[08:21] <QueenVee> what does MSM stand for? where do you get it? drug store? health food store?
[08:21] <RNTHOMAS> Hence we just don't get very mucyh of it...
[08:21] <RNTHOMAS> It's dirty cheap, can get it at the health food store (by bottle was $15.00 bucks CDN)
[08:22] <RNTHOMAS> 1/3 of the body consist of these MSM derived sulfer compounds according to the tape I heard last night...
[08:22] <RNTHOMAS> I consider it what I call, a ROOT NUTRIENT...
[08:22] <RNTHOMAS> Something like Omega 3 fatty acids...
[08:22] <QueenVee> i see
[08:23] <RNTHOMAS> MSM helps the body to bind with foreign proteins to get ride of em...
[08:24] <RNTHOMAS> They use it as a Snake Venom remover, when they don't know what type of snake bit...
[08:25] <RNTHOMAS> It binds with these external proteins...
[08:33] <RNTHOMAS> It's also responsible for the formation of health / strong tissues...
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[08:33] <QueenVee> i'll have to look into getting some
[08:33] <QueenVee> hello Humor
[08:34] <Humor> Good Morning! Queen!
[08:34] <Humor> Where the two questions I sent you this past week too off the wall? What do you think?
[08:35] <QueenVee> Humor: people forget that i don't know them by their real names, only by their online names, so i don't know which email would have been with you
[08:35] <QueenVee> care to remind me what your questions were...
[08:37] <Humor> Nibiru is on the outside the planet we all talk about, but is it possible the the inside is a hollowed out spacecraft or battlestar? An idea of an advanced organized method of patrolling this Galazy. I think there is more to all this than what we think on our level.
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[08:37] <QueenVee> Humor: asked and answered -- it's just a planet
[08:38] <Humor> Thanks. Thought I may have been s t r e t c h i n g it a bit.
[08:38] <Humor> A humor imagination let loose! lol
[08:38] <QueenVee> seems to be a popular notion, as it gets asked a lot
[08:40] <QueenVee> what was your other question?
[08:40] <Humor> Second question was: Are the Zeta's part of an overall cooperation with other lifeforms not from Earth to help us transition during the Pole Shift. Maybe each group doing a different part in helping us.
[08:42] <QueenVee> Humor: asked and answered. yes, they are cooperating with other aliens, who are performing different roles
[08:42] <QueenVee> they are the only ones doing a hybrid program, though, and who will be living on earth after the shift
[08:43] <Humor> Thank you Queen....I am just trying to get a broader picture of the pole shift beyond our level here on Earth. Answers allot of smaller questions.
[08:43] <QueenVee> np
[08:44] <QueenVee> for instance, crop circles are the work of a water-based aliens species....
[08:44] <QueenVee> they have been foretelling the coming poleshift via pictorial images that speak to the human subconscious
[08:45] <Humor> Thanks.....I would help if I remember what I have READ! lol
[08:45] <Humor> It
[08:45] <QueenVee> here's a link: http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v16.htm
[08:46] <Humor> In the news....read your posts....Very busy Pacific region.
[08:47] <QueenVee> yep
[08:47] <Humor> Wonder if there is a pattern that will move to the East or West?
[08:48] <Humor> Could also be random around the globe also.
[08:50] <QueenVee> well, the pacific has always been very earthquake prone
[08:51] <QueenVee> though the activity is obviously now much more intense
[08:57] <Humor> Need to go do some chores now.....Thank you for our frank answers to my questions. Keep the spirit.....and Harry....keep an eye on Queen for us! At least betwen naps! lol
[08:58] <Humor> bye
[08:58] <QueenVee> BYE
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[08:58] <QueenVee> HI TEX
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[08:58] <tex-at-work> hi QV
[08:58] <tex-at-work> What is going on in your world
[08:59] <QueenVee> Harry has now become Henry -- dunno why, but that just seems to be his name
[08:59] <tex-at-work> how is your mom doing with it
[09:00] <QueenVee> she's getting there
[09:00] <QueenVee> Henry almost got himself a rabbit this morning
[09:00] <tex-at-work> lol..very good
[09:01] <tex-at-work> I'm still distressed about Monk.... not the I can do anything about it
[09:02] <tex-at-work> and I'm going to poke Ink in the eye when he gets back
[09:02] <QueenVee> what about monk?
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[09:02] <QueenVee> hello humvee
[09:03] <tex-at-work> about having to move out of his Grandmother's house.. and thinking he is going into the army
[09:03] <tex-at-work> hi humvee
[09:03] <humvee> hello queenvee
[09:03] <humvee> hi tex
[09:04] <QueenVee> i wouldn't take what monk says too seriously... a couple of months ago he made a grand announcement that he was leaving home and going to go and live in the wilderness....
[09:04] <QueenVee> we didn't hear from him for a couple of weeks....
[09:04] <QueenVee> then he reappeared, said he decided not to go
[09:05] <tex-at-work> what will be will be
[09:06] <tex-at-work> brb
[09:10] <QueenVee> brb
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[09:18] <tex-at-work> humvee what time is it there
[09:18] <humvee> it is 07:21AM
[09:19] <tex-at-work> i thought it would be more than 4 hours... that's cool
[09:20] <humvee> hawaiina time = GMT -10 hrs
[09:23] <humvee> r u on central time in Texas
[09:23] <tex-at-work> yes
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[09:37] <RNTHOMAS> QV: now ya gotta stop scarin the new arrivals away!!! lol!
[09:38] <QueenVee> lol
[09:38] <QueenVee> my reputation preceeds me
[09:38] <tex-at-work> exactly
[09:38] <tex-at-work> lol
[09:38] <humvee> QV: had a
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[09:40] <humvee> Sarakim last pm said she was fm LA cal very scared n had 2 move then wud not say much or respond
[09:41] <QueenVee> mmmmm
[09:41] <humvee> i think lots o young ppl out there not knowing what 2 do
[09:41] <humvee> she lerked 4 3 more hours then left
[09:42] <humvee> i guess maybe she lerned a bit by watching
[09:42] <QueenVee> be wary of debunker types coming in here, playing a role of scared helpless person... hoping to get somebody to say something they can use....
[09:42] <QueenVee> it's happened before
[09:42] <humvee> or it was a female impersonator - lol
[09:42] <humvee> yes
[09:43] <QueenVee> that's the whole point of all the questions i ask when new people come in....
[09:43] <QueenVee> i try to suss out if they sound genuine
[09:43] <humvee> yes it doesnt take 2 long 2 see the difference
[09:43] <QueenVee> a big clue is if they say they are from an area that their IP address does not agree with
[09:44] <humvee> she had an .rr extention
[09:45] <humvee> i notice in mirc I use now does not show ip wen new ppl start up
[09:45] <QueenVee> humvee: you can change your settings so that it does
[09:45] <humvee> oh
[09:45] <QueenVee> but i just do a /whois to find out
[09:45] <humvee> rite
[09:48] <humvee> did whois @Queenvee and whois humvee clickd ok where does answer goto?
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[09:52] <humvee> hello woogles
[09:52] <woogles> hello
[09:53] <woogles> say, would anyone here know of a place that actually sells orcanas? They seem like a nice little musical instrument, but I'm having a hell of a time finding a site that carries them.
[09:55] <humvee> jus begining player o keyboard dont know re orcanas
[09:55] <humvee> wen site is busyier there r many musician on jus slo now
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[09:56] <QueenVee> humvee: i don't understand your question
[09:56] <QueenVee> hello steve
[09:56] <steve> hey
[09:56] <woogles> Yeah, I play a few already, my orcana interest was spawned from : http://www.zetatalk.com/health/theal08f.htm
[09:56] <humvee> oh
[09:57] <QueenVee> good bye steve
[09:57] <humvee> qv: tried whois but did not answer
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[09:57] <QueenVee> humvee: type the following and hit enter: /whois queenvee
[09:57] <humvee> also did as / command but no post either
[09:58] <QueenVee> or you can highlight the person's name in the list of nicknames, do a right click, and pick "whois"....
[09:58] <humvee> ok
[09:58] <woogles> it shows up (normally) in the server status window, not the chat window, so that may be your problem
[09:58] <QueenVee> or just right click on the person's name wherever it appears, and pick "whois"
[09:59] <QueenVee> shows up in my chat window
[09:59] <humvee> yes did that but where does answer post?
[09:59] <humvee> not posting in my chat window
[09:59] <QueenVee> okay, something to do with your settings, hold on....
[10:00] <QueenVee> okay, click on WINDOW at the top of your screen, choose OPTIONS, then put a check on all of the boxes there
[10:02] <humvee> all checked except upper rite (tile cascade aRRANGE)
[10:04] <QueenVee> okay, go to TOOLS, select, OPTION, then DISPLAY, then WINDOWS....
[10:04] <QueenVee> and make sure NONE of those boxes are checked
[10:04] <humvee> no options on tools
[10:05] <QueenVee> SORRY, i meang FILE
[10:05] <humvee> ok
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[10:06] <QueenVee> hi JFull
[10:06] <JFull> HI
[10:06] <JFull> whats up
[10:07] <QueenVee> not much
[10:07] <QueenVee> i'm just about to go shopping
[10:07] <JFull> for what or should I ask?
[10:07] <QueenVee> oh, odds and ends....
[10:07] <QueenVee> nothing special
[10:08] <JFull> always something special when spending money
[10:09] <QueenVee> ha, well, i'm going over to the local "dollar store", so i won't be spending much
[10:09] <JFull> my money tree has grown so large I cant reach any more $$
[10:10] <QueenVee> lol
[10:10] <JFull> hummmmvvvvvvvvv there?
[10:10] <humvee> yes
[10:11] <QueenVee> humvee: sometimes you have to quit IRC and come back on for your new settings to take effect. do that and then see if the /whois command works for you....
[10:11] <humvee> ok thanks i will
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[10:39] <Ogmios> hi
[10:39] <QueenVee> hello ogmios
[10:40] <obaway> hi
[10:40] <QueenVee> i'm just stepping out the door to do some shopping
[10:40] <QueenVee> see you later
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[10:40] <obaway> ah and i will take a shower now ..... but i will return of course ... anyway how are you ogmios?
[10:40] <Ogmios> former finnish business man is accused for arms deal to iraq
[10:40] <Ogmios> peter fryckman
[10:41] <obaway> ah
[10:41] <Ogmios> south african police investigates it
[10:42] <obaway> mmm
[10:42] <obaway> okay laters ...
[10:42] <obaway> shower now
[10:43] <Ogmios> http://www.helsinki-hs.net/news.asp?id=20021125IE3
[10:44] <Ogmios> that guy has been in the news all the time..many years
[10:44] <obaway> mmmm
[10:44] <obaway> laters
[10:44] <Ogmios> later
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[10:51] <special_chyld> how close
[10:51] <special_chyld> is plnt X
[10:51] <special_chyld> ?
[10:52] <woogles> Look in your back yard.. see that giant planet mowing your lawn? That's planet x...
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[10:57] <scooby-afk> hahahahahahah @ woogles
[10:57] <scooby-afk> special: go to #earthchanges for that discussion
[10:58] <scooby-afk> gotta go
[10:58] <scooby-afk> bye
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[11:20] <Ogmios> clock work orange from tv now
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[11:20] <Ogmios> they are sending stanley kubrick movies
[11:21] <yggdraidl> whats up guys?
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[11:26] <Ogmios> whats is the point in movies like clock work orange..
[11:26] <woogles> what's the point of anything?
[11:26] <Ogmios> no point...
[11:28] <Ogmios> point is to suffer
[11:30] <yggdraidl> the ol in an dout
[11:31] <obaway> going to sis now lters
[11:32] <Ogmios> later
[11:41] <humvee> whats up - m throwing away lots o stuff
[11:43] <humvee> got 2 move / relocate so 2 much junk collected ovr time tossing it out thats whats up yggdraidl n u?
[11:44] <yggdraidl> ??
[11:44] <yggdraidl> think i gotta reboot
[11:44] <yggdraidl> brb
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[11:49] <humvee> qv find anything good@ 1$ store
[11:52] <humvee> giong 2 try a re boot now brb
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[11:56] <QueenVee> hello
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[11:57] <humvee> hi qv seeing if my commands work now
[11:58] <humvee> no change so i will read the docs /help info n try again/off 2 worknow bye
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[12:06] <QueenVee> hello Boy
[12:07] <BoY> hi
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[12:25] <QueenVee> hello buente
[12:29] <Buente> hi
[12:35] <tied2> queen have you looked @Steve's new pics?
[12:36] <QueenVee> no, i haven't; i've never figured out how to read the FITS files
[12:36] <tied2> oh
[12:36] <QueenVee> you?
[12:36] <tied2> what about the jpegs?
[12:37] <tied2> yeah I had a program but I lost it in the reformat
[12:37] <QueenVee> there are jpegs of the new pics?
[12:37] <tied2> yes
[12:37] <tied2> the link I saw had them
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[12:38] <tied2> I think 5 of them
[12:38] <Dr_Mabuzu> всем привет!
[12:38] <Dr_Mabuzu> hi all
[12:38] <QueenVee> hello Dr -- what brings you to this room?
[12:38] <QueenVee> tied2: the pics from this past weekend?
[12:39] <Dr_Mabuzu> from zwtatalk.com
[12:39] <QueenVee> Dr: how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[12:40] <Dr_Mabuzu> i don't know
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[12:40] <tied2> they were dated Jan 10th
[12:40] <QueenVee> Dr: what do you mean you don't know?
[12:41] <woogles> hmm is px currently a night object or a day object?
[12:41] <Dr_Mabuzu> i did not andestood qwestion
[12:43] <Dr_Mabuzu> .
[12:43] <QueenVee> it's a straightforward question
[12:43] <QueenVee> how long have you known about zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[12:44] <Dr_Mabuzu> i don'know word "aware"
[12:44] <Dr_Mabuzu> i see
[12:44] <Dr_Mabuzu> 1 year
[12:44] <Dr_Mabuzu> i get it from relcom.sceptic
[12:45] <Dr_Mabuzu> it is echo conf
[12:45] <Dr_Mabuzu> ok.i must go. by!
[12:45] <QueenVee> bye
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[12:49] <cmell> hi
[12:51] <QueenVee> hello cmell
[12:51] <cmell> pretty slow huh
[12:51] <QueenVee> yep
[12:52] <QueenVee> i'm busy trying to update the website...
[12:52] <cmell> ok :)
[12:52] <cmell> I was just about to reread the logs
[12:52] <obaway> hi cmell
[12:53] <cmell> hi obaway
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[12:59] <obany> cmell: the answers are on the what's new page already you know
[12:59] <cmell> ok but I wanted to read ppl responses too :)
[13:00] <obany> okay okay :)
[13:00] <obany> understandable cmell
[13:00] <cmell> :)
[13:01] <tied2> OK where can i GET Jan 10TH FITS FILES?
[13:01] <cmell> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas26.htm
[13:01] <cmell> or so nancy said saturday
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[13:07] <Danvaldan> Hi all
[13:08] <obany> hi
[13:08] <cmell> hi
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[13:08] <QueenVee> hello Dan
[13:08] <Danvaldan> chat Sat seemed to be all about arguing...
[13:08] <QueenVee> i've been getting your questions for ZT
[13:08] <Danvaldan> hi QV!
[13:09] <Danvaldan> yes -
[13:09] <Danvaldan> I am locked in a holding pattern I think
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[13:09] <QueenVee> none have been been suitable....
[13:09] <QueenVee> for example....
[13:09] <Danvaldan> yes - but - I must wonder - how does the economy figure int oaftertime, etc..
[13:10] <woogles> what economy ? ;)
[13:10] <QueenVee> your question about petitioning the Council of Worlds to intervene in the poleshift....
[13:10] <cmell> barter economy
[13:10] <Danvaldan> yes -
[13:10] <woogles> Food, water, basic tools, etc will be the most valuable things likely
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[13:11] <QueenVee> there is nothing anyone can do about the poleshift -- it is a natural event
[13:11] <QueenVee> i don't understand your question about the economy in the aftertime....
[13:11] <Danvaldan> QV on that one I wasnt looking for them to intervene - but to allow contact between parties who might be able to affect
[13:12] <Danvaldan> In other words who decided nothing can be done?
[13:12] <QueenVee> ZT has made it clear that there is no party who might be able to affect
[13:13] <Danvaldan> There is even a reference to if earth were over a certain percentage STO we would be shited to 4th density BEFORE the poleshift
[13:13] <QueenVee> and i'm not going to submit a question that is basically "Are you SURE there's nothing can be done"?
[13:13] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r57.htm
[13:13] <QueenVee> Dan: NO, THERE ISN'T
[13:13] <woogles> we're in preschool or whatever, the zetas are in about the 4th grade (i think), I wonder what the beings who have graduated highschool are like
[13:13] <Danvaldan> Oh come on. Why should anyone accept that?
[13:14] <QueenVee> Dan: why accept ANYTHING the zetas tell us?
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[13:14] <Danvaldan> Right. I mean their knowledge is coming from their level of technology and undrstanding -
[13:14] <obany> if the earth would be 89% STO for the pole shift then .. yes, but that won't happpen
[13:14] <QueenVee> Dan: you're being incredibly silly
[13:15] <woogles> hmm I don't understand, why does the whole population have to be 89% sto for specific individuals to make the shift? (this has probably been adressed somewhere or other)
[13:15] <QueenVee> do you not think that if there were some "higher authority" that wanted to communicate with humans, they would?
[13:16] <QueenVee> woogles: what are you talking about/
[13:16] <QueenVee> such a thing has NEVER been said in ZT
[13:16] <woogles> the transformation to 4th density
[13:16] <QueenVee> the 89% STO thing is about switching to 4th density, not "making the shift"....
[13:16] <woogles> yes I used the wrong phrase there, sorry
[13:17] <QueenVee> woogles: read the DENSITY section
[13:18] <QueenVee> Dan: BOTTOM LINE IS THIS: this is a forum for preparing for the poleshift, not trying to find ways of averting it
[13:18] <QueenVee> the zetas say it cannot be averted. end of story.
[13:19] <Danvaldan> ok. yes.
[13:19] <QueenVee> if you believe they're not telling us the truth about that -- then why would you believe they're telling us the truth about ANYTHING?
[13:19] <Danvaldan> No, I am not really thinking its a non-truth thing - but I am wondering if they accept the Council Law without challenge.
[13:20] <obany> i think this is a way for davnalan to hide his fears
[13:20] <Danvaldan> Sure -
[13:20] <obany> Danvalan: it's more then a law
[13:20] <Danvaldan> sure it is.
[13:20] <obany> for you danvalan
[13:20] <QueenVee> Dan: they have made it clear that the Council of Worlds is a cooperative organization, not one that dictates to others
[13:20] <Danvaldan> Hey - I'm not hiding: I'm scared
[13:21] <QueenVee> and the zetas do not say that the Council of Worlds is PREVENTING anyone from doing something about the shift; they say that it is a natural event that CANNOT BE PREVENTED
[13:21] <Danvaldan> My original idea was this - could communication between ourselves and px precipitate a possible way to avert shift
[13:21] <obany> so you want that it's averted ... that's the point
[13:21] <QueenVee> Dan: NO, IT CAN'T
[13:21] <Danvaldan> sure.
[13:23] <Danvaldan> I am concerned that folks dont rack their brain before giving up
[13:23] <Danvaldan> I am racking my brain -
[13:23] <cmell> rack ?
[13:23] <Danvaldan> trying to come up with ideas.
[13:24] <woogles> Well technically we could avoid the poleshift, if we destroy the earth or destroy planet x, but I don't think either of those are very good dieas.
[13:25] <Ogmios> cant even try
[13:25] <QueenVee> Dan: who's giving up?
[13:25] <cmell> and not possible
[13:25] <obany> Planet X can not be destroyed
[13:25] <woogles> oh? why not?
[13:25] <cmell> we can destroy the biosphere here on earth
[13:26] <Danvaldan> QV: when I hear Nancy say something like she considerers herself already dead -
[13:26] <obany> Danvalan: wrong again
[13:27] <QueenVee> what are you talking about? when did she ever say that?
[13:27] <Danvaldan> what -
[13:27] <Danvaldan> On that radio interview -
[13:27] <QueenVee> Nancy has every intention of surviving the shift
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[13:27] <Danvaldan> the recent one with Noory
[13:27] <obany> check transformation, choose live zetatalk
[13:27] <QueenVee> Dan: she has never said ANYTHING even remotely like that, don't be ridiculous
[13:28] <Danvaldan> ok - I'm sure I heard it wrong.
[13:28] <obany> yes you had
[13:28] <QueenVee> hello heck -- what brings you to this room?
[13:28] <heck> zetatalk
[13:29] <QueenVee> heck: how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[13:29] <heck> 1 month
[13:29] <QueenVee> and what area do you live in? what are you doing to prepare for the poleshift?
[13:30] <heck> im collecting food for now
[13:30] <QueenVee> what kind of food
[13:30] <heck> canned
[13:30] <heck> water
[13:31] <heck> blankets and stuff
[13:31] <QueenVee> what area do you live in?
[13:31] <heck> toronto
[13:31] <QueenVee> toronto, eh? how long have you lived in toronto?
[13:32] <heck> a year
[13:32] <QueenVee> so what's the weather like in Toronto right now?
[13:33] <heck> cloudy
[13:33] <QueenVee> i guess you can see the clouds outside your window, eh....
[13:34] <heck> yes
[13:34] <QueenVee> LOL
[13:34] <QueenVee> wow, i didn't know you could see clouds in toronto all the way from montreal
[13:34] <heck> but its warm
[13:34] <heck> montreal ?
[13:34] <QueenVee> montreal?
[13:34] <QueenVee> quel suprise
[13:35] <QueenVee> heck is heck@Montreal-ppp3536580.sympatico.ca * jason davies
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[13:35] <heck> oh
[13:35] <heck> it does that sometimes
[13:35] <QueenVee> LOL!!!!!!
[13:35] <QueenVee> and how does it do that?
[13:35] <cmell> lol
[13:35] <QueenVee> get lost buddy
[13:35] <heck> no idea
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[13:35] * heck was kicked by QueenVee (heck)
[13:36] <tied2> cmell will you post that link one more time to the fits images?
[13:36] <raincity> Dan was correct in regards to Nancy's last interview.
[13:36] <cmell> sure
[13:36] <cmell> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas26.htm
[13:36] <tied2> thanks
[13:36] <juditness> QueenVee: it does do that sometimes.
[13:36] <raincity> She did say that she considered herself dead already with regards to the future.
[13:36] <juditness> you can believe me that.
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[13:37] <Danvaldan> what was that all about?
[13:38] <QueenVee> a guy who keeps trying to evade my bans
[13:38] <Danvaldan> hi IaNZ
[13:38] <Danvaldan> really? youve sen before?
[13:38] <cmell> hi IaNZ
[13:38] <Danvaldan> seen
[13:38] <QueenVee> yep
[13:38] <IaNZ> Hi...good morning.. from NZ
[13:39] <Danvaldan> New Zealand?
[13:39] <QueenVee> hi IaNZ
[13:39] <cmell> Good Evening
[13:39] <obany> g'evening
[13:39] <IaNZ> I just had some calves delivered.. my house cows in a years time:-)
[13:39] <QueenVee> excellent
[13:40] <cmell> you have foodstock for them too I hope
[13:41] <IaNZ> That remains to be seen. I will have a bit.. but need some grass.
[13:41] <IaNZ> Someone has to keep cows going.
[13:42] <cmell> I guess
[13:42] <IaNZ> But thats why I have just gotten small, young ones.
[13:42] <cmell> they grow pretty fast
[13:43] <IaNZ> An animal that converts fibre to protein...very valuable!
[13:43] <IaNZ> Not to mention cream!!!
[13:43] <cmell> yes, and you get manure too :) = fertilizer
[13:44] <IaNZ> Worm food
[13:44] <cmell> yes both
[13:45] <IaNZ> Corn porridge is hugely improved by cream:-)
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[13:46] <IaNZ> Years ago we milked a cow.. and it really showed me how vital they could be.
[13:46] <cmell> yes, but you have to have a stable food supply for the livestock :(
[13:47] <IaNZ> Adds hugely to your food resource.
[13:47] <IaNZ> I just have to hope that there will be enough vegetation where I live.
[13:48] <Danvaldan> I was going to get chickins - but I was zoned wrong
[13:48] <IaNZ> If not.. eat the cow, and go fishing:-)
[13:48] <Danvaldan> so its beans and pears where
[13:49] <Danvaldan> here
[13:49] <woogles> if food is short, ie lets say you have 5 ears of corn and 2 chickens, energy wise your much better off not to feed the chickens at all..ie kill and eat them first, then eat the corn.
[13:49] <woogles> at least with cows your getting milk, manure, etc
[13:50] <IaNZ> Dan, if you are Zoned... you are not safe. In a town.
[13:50] <woogles> chickens you justget eggs
[13:50] <IaNZ> Woggles... and then die.
[13:51] <woogles> heh, well yeah if you only have 5 ears of corn and 2 chickens your kind of screwed no matter what you do
[13:51] <IaNZ> You have to have a better plan than that.
[13:52] <IaNZ> Even a ton of corn is not that expensive. But you have to store it.
[13:53] <IaNZ> I had a fixation on wheat. Now I am looking at corn. A lot grown around here.
[13:53] <IaNZ> Stores well for up to 5 yrs.
[13:54] <IaNZ> And if no PS.. I have 5yrs of chicken feed. And Homminy.
[13:58] <Danvaldan> 5years?
[13:58] <Danvaldan> wow ...
[13:58] <QueenVee> homminy grits
[13:58] <Danvaldan> what kind of structures do you make to deal with that kind of backup?
[13:58] <IaNZ> There is a lot of good stuff on grains/ beans etc on the Walton Feeds site.
[13:59] <IaNZ> Which I found from a link on Queens site. :-)
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[13:59] <QueenVee> IaNZ: yes, i was goin to ask that as well: how do you plan to store 5 years worth of corn?
[13:59] <IaNZ> I was planning on shipping containers.
[13:59] <Danvaldan> ah - thats cool - expensive - but cool -
[14:00] <QueenVee> how would you keep moisture out?
[14:01] <IaNZ> If I can, I will put some in plastic drums... for longer storage.
[14:01] <QueenVee> mmmm
[14:01] <Danvaldan> IaNZ where are you?
[14:02] <IaNZ> You can hire containers.. and maybe in a few months.. noone to collect the rent!
[14:02] <cmell> hehe
[14:02] <Danvaldan> There are alot of those around here -
[14:02] <IaNZ> Dan.. in the North Is of New Zealand.
[14:03] <Danvaldan> ah -
[14:04] <Danvaldan> VA, USA here
[14:04] <IaNZ> Containers are a quick, easy solution cf building anything.
[14:05] <IaNZ> Dan.. have been there. I was surprised at the deserted farms.. In west Va too
[14:05] <IaNZ> Corn grown there too
[14:05] <Danvaldan> People are paid to not grow around here
[14:06] <Danvaldan> alot of tobacco - at least used to be
[14:06] <IaNZ> But too many people I think.
[14:07] <Danvaldan> depends on the area -
[14:07] <IaNZ> Too close to Washington??
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[14:07] <Danvaldan> Richmond -
[14:07] <Danvaldan> 2 hrs south
[14:07] <Danvaldan> central VA
[14:07] <Danvaldan> on the James river
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[14:08] <IaNZ> I think you have to be remote.. like Idaho.. difficult in the USA.
[14:09] <IaNZ> NZ is a COUNTRY.. that is remote!
[14:09] <Danvaldan> I dont know.
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[14:10] <Danvaldan> gott aget going - bye all
[14:11] <[GregACNJ> Yo!
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[14:11] <IaNZ> I live in a remote part.. but I still worry. Virtually no one is prepared. So anyone who is will be obvious.
[14:11] * obany brb
[14:14] <IaNZ> Read Zetatalk.. Aftertime..it's grim reading. A lot of starvation post PS.
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[14:15] <S0b> http://www.druglordsgame.com/index.php?ref=27154
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[14:18] <IaNZ> On that happy note, I'd better go work on my fishing boat. A nice little sailing dingy. But needs work.
[14:18] <IaNZ> Bye
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[15:01] <elwood> When Planet X doesn't show up, you might want to know how to get a hold of Nancy, assuming she isn't at her "safe location" (in hiding). Nancy Lieder, P.O. Box 78 (115 Lieder Street), North Freedom, WI 53951, (608) 522-4265.
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[15:05] <obany> !ban *!*@jvl-pm3-4-36.jvlnet.com
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[15:06] <obany> what an idiot
[15:06] * juditness is away.. zz [mail: judit@geekychick.org] at 00:08:10
[15:06] <obany> and he only joined in to say this, as he left the funnet network
[15:07] <obany> typical sci.astro jackass
[15:14] [obany:#poleshiftdiscussion PING]
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[15:19] <Ogmios> he said that on saturday too
[15:21] <obany> and he will probably try to do it again ..
[15:23] <obany> u fine ogmios?
[15:23] <Ogmios> its cold again and i am tired
[15:24] <obany> how cold.. and well i am tired too
[15:25] <Ogmios> -20C
[15:25] <Ogmios> http://www.fmi.fi/saa/paikalli.html?kunta=Pori
[15:26] <Ogmios> it goes up and down..daily
[15:27] <obany> cold
[15:28] <Ogmios> stormy tomorrow
[15:29] <Ogmios> very hard wind
[15:29] <Ogmios> will cause some power failures for sure and more fallen trees
[15:29] <Ogmios> forests suffer a lot
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[15:30] <dell> hi everyone
[15:30] <obany> hi
[15:31] <obany> most people ain't chatting right now, it's a liltte quiet
[15:31] <dell> ok
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[15:33] <Ogmios> obany you liked that bosnian song?
[15:34] <obany> i mentioned tht to you, not that bad ..
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[15:46] <obany> hi walt
[15:55] <walt> hi
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[15:59] <obany> hi Qeen
[15:59] <QueenVee> hello
[15:59] <QueenVee> it's cold here as well
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[16:00] <obany> wb judit
[16:00] <juditness> ty
[16:01] <QueenVee> it's -10c here
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[16:15] <Lancer> greetings, folks
[16:15] <QueenVee> hello Lancer
[16:15] * Lancer waves to QueenVee
[16:16] <QueenVee> how are things in the rainy city?
[16:17] <Lancer> ah yes, well... ah... er... would I surprise you if I said the weather was rainy today?
[16:17] <Lancer> not
[16:17] <QueenVee> well, there you go
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[16:17] <QueenVee> hi ogmios
[16:18] <Lancer> I've lived in Los Angeles for many years, so this Pacific Northwest weather takes some getting used to, for sure
[16:18] <QueenVee> i can imagin
[16:18] <QueenVee> we will all be getting used to new weather soon....
[16:19] <Lancer> yep, for sure, so I reckon getting up to Seattle is a very mild warm up for the big show
[16:19] <Ogmios> hi
[16:20] <obany> Ogmios: could you try sending a file to me even it's small
[16:21] <Lancer> QueenVee, I was unable to get on Saturday for the ZT sessions, but was hoping to see the logs on your shift2003 site; but your "Zetatalk Logs" link takes me to the search page?
[16:21] <QueenVee> Lancer: no, it doesn't
[16:21] <QueenVee> you must be accidentally clicking on the search link instead
[16:22] <QueenVee> at any rate, the logs are now up on the ZT site
[16:26] <Lancer> ah, I see the problem...
[16:26] <Lancer> I like to use the web browser "Opera"
[16:26] <Lancer> its free, small, very fast, handy, user friendly, best little browser on the planet
[16:26] <Lancer> but...
[16:27] <Lancer> Opera is a stickler for being exactly per the web standards
[16:27] <Lancer> Opera is desigened "exactly" per web standards, not some Microsoft abberation
[16:28] <Lancer> QueenVee, I do get the correct link on IE, but not on Opera
[16:28] <QueenVee> ?
[16:28] <Lancer> on Opera ZetaTalk Logs points to the search page
[16:29] <Lancer> on IE, that link is correct
[16:29] <Lancer> I was on Opera and just didn't check
[16:29] <QueenVee> well, i don't understand why that would be, but.... ok.....
[16:29] <[GregACNJ> actually, Lancer, once you get used to the nortwest weather, people tend to like it. Are you there yet?
[16:30] <Lancer> yep, I'm here [GregACNJ
[16:30] <[GregACNJ> no, do you like the weather yet?
[16:31] <Lancer> and yes [GregACNJ, I'm actually not abused as much by the lousy weather as I was only a few months ago... but I sure do miss the nice sunny warm days in LA
[16:31] <[GregACNJ> It may be tropical soon, anyway.
[16:32] <tied2> Just FYI ... the dishnetwork satellite went down today for a while it's becomming a weeky thing now
[16:32] <[GregACNJ> every cloud has a silver lining.
[16:32] <QueenVee> tied2: mmmm, interesting; how long has that been the case?
[16:32] <tied2> for about a month or more
[16:33] <Lancer> QueenVee, I find the browser incompatibility a bit weird too, but Opera is very very picky about standards, so I'm guessing there is something on the site that is Mircosoft-friendly but non-standard... or it could be a design error in Opera
[16:33] <QueenVee> mmm, strange
[16:33] <Lancer> a number of IT professionals will run a web site against Opera as a test for page design
[16:34] <QueenVee> i see
[16:34] <tied2> lancer there are settings in Opera to make it identify it's self differantly
[16:34] <Lancer> have you looked at the page from Netscape? Netscape may also have a problem with the page
[16:36] <QueenVee> no, i haven't. but you're the only person who's had a problem with it (or rather, who's told me that are having a problem with it)
[16:39] <Lancer> QueenVee, I previously was on IE when on shift2003, this time I only had Opera open and didn't think to try IE (I like to stay off IE when possible because of the bugs and security leaks)
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[16:40] <sotos> hello all
[16:40] <Lancer> QueenVee, all the links in the left nav panel are correct except that one mentioned, and it directly preceeds the search link in the vertical list
[16:41] <QueenVee> any advice on what is wrong with it?
[16:41] <QueenVee> hello sotos -- what's up in greece?
[16:41] <Lancer> QueenVee, if I were to guess, I would speculate that the Log link doesn't properly terminate, which then results in a bleed through to the next, or search
[16:41] <sotos> Dressed in white
[16:41] <QueenVee> sotos: ?
[16:41] <sotos> snow
[16:41] * obany goes now, tired bye
[16:41] <QueenVee> Lancer: i'll have a look at the html now....
[16:41] <QueenVee> bye obany
[16:42] <Lancer> :)
[16:42] <Ogmios> bye
[16:42] <Lancer> QueenVee, when you look, keep in mind the link is correct in IE, but not for Opera and most likely Netscape won't link correctly either
[16:43] <obany> well lancer works fine here
[16:43] <obany> no probs
[16:43] <obany> with netscape
[16:43] <QueenVee> Lancer: the html is correct....
[16:44] <obany> Lancer: did you tried the identify with ....
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[16:44] <tied2> what link ?
[16:44] <obany> !kick qua
[16:44] <obany> !kick qu
[16:44] <QueenVee> haha
[16:44] <QueenVee> beat ya to it, obany
[16:44] <Lancer> oh, ok... well, what can I say... I guess I'll wimper and curse my Opera browser
[16:44] <obany> ehehehe
[16:44] <obany> laner: opera has a function called identify with ... try to change that setting and try it again
[16:45] <tied2> lancer .. what OS windows?
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[16:45] <Lancer> I'm on Win2000
[16:45] <tied2> aw
[16:46] <Lancer> obany.... I do run Opera as Opera, and could so Identify
[16:46] * Lancer <---- sneaks a peak at the html for himself
[16:46] <tied2> change it to identify as IE
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[16:53] <sotos> we have a new river ! http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=18148
[16:54] <sotos> http://www.mpa.gr/article.html?doc_id=317408
[16:54] * Lancer squints and blinks his eyes after looking over a very long html line
[16:55] <QueenVee> sotos: great, thanks for that link
[16:55] <QueenVee> Lancer: ain't that a killer?
[16:55] <sotos> np
[16:55] <Lancer> QueenVee, the only thing I see is that there are lots of <big> with out the </big> in that line
[16:55] <QueenVee> sotos: wow, how unusual is it to have snow in greece?
[16:56] <sotos> it was unusual before 3-4 years
[16:56] <walt> i snowed when I was there in 76
[16:56] <Lancer> but usually, the </...> part is optional, not sure of the standard requirement for <big> as to whether the </big> is optional
[16:56] <sotos> Every year gets worst
[16:56] <Lancer> going afk for a moment
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[16:58] <QueenVee> Lancer: well, only one of the link HAS the </big>...
[16:58] <sotos> The earht changes rather quick the last months don't you think?
[16:58] <QueenVee> sotos: indeed
[16:58] <QueenVee> makes your head spin
[17:01] <sotos> My parents told me that they will rather stay home and die.. I feel so bad about it..
[17:01] <QueenVee> mmmm
[17:01] <QueenVee> well, it will be a very difficult life after the shift, not all will be up to it
[17:02] <sotos> That opinion is not to older people only... many yanger people think that way
[17:02] <Lancer> darn... don't find <big>...</big> in the standards... QueenVee, I'll speculate that if you put that </big> in there, then Opera will render the page properly <hint and wink>
[17:03] <QueenVee> okay, will try it
[17:03] <Lancer> :)
[17:03] <QueenVee> sotos: agreed
[17:04] <sotos> It is sad realy.. and That suisadal thinking does have anything to do with STS or STO way of thinking?
[17:05] <sotos> I mean how will think that an STO or a STS guy?
[17:05] <sotos> Staying alive you will help others....STO
[17:06] <QueenVee> sotos: well, for those physically infirm, it could be very STO to not want to be a burden to others....
[17:06] <QueenVee> but for someone who could contribute in the aftertime, yes, i think it would be rather selfish to choose death....
[17:06] <sotos> right..
[17:07] <QueenVee> on the other hand, i think there are those who have subconsciously chosen to die so that they can return to earth in another incarnation and make their contribution to the aftertime in that way....
[17:08] <QueenVee> Lancer: okay, i've fixed that. try it now.
[17:08] <Lancer> QueenVee, that plan may not do well as there will be very few bodies for the many candidates then available
[17:08] <QueenVee> Lancer: that's not how it works....
[17:08] <Lancer> QueenVee, did you take out the one </big> or add to all links?
[17:09] <QueenVee> Lancer: added to all
[17:09] <sotos> But think that most people don't know or completly understand the psichical state, souls and incriminations, they think that after death nothing exists but death.
[17:09] <Lancer> ah... ok
[17:09] <sotos> those people think that way
[17:09] <sotos> well most of them
[17:09] <Ogmios> i go to sleep now. bye
[17:09] <Lancer> QueenVee, shasam!
[17:09] <QueenVee> it it is in the best interest of the soul to incarnate in a certain time and place, a body will be available -- there isn't a "waiting list" of some kind
[17:10] <QueenVee> Lancer: it worked?
[17:10] <Lancer> now the link works!!!
[17:10] <QueenVee> cool
[17:10] <QueenVee> thanks for helping me fix it
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[17:10] <QueenVee> hehe
[17:10] <QueenVee> it is rare that someone tells you something is not working and also tells you how to fix it....
[17:11] <sotos> yeah :)
[17:11] <Lancer> boy, I knew that Opera was a stickler for html code, that that was way over the top.... sloppy browsers just give the html writer the benefit of the doubt on missing <...> stuff
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[17:12] <QueenVee> hello tenshu
[17:12] <tenshu> gday
[17:13] <tenshu> has anything been concluded for the jan10th pics?
[17:13] <Lancer> QueenVee, re incarnation: what does the spirit do after death and before a body is available? if there is wholesale death and very little birthing going on, won't there be lots of spirits with no place to go (in the physical plane at least)?
[17:13] <QueenVee> tenshu: i'm the wrong person to ask, i'm so behind in things i haven't even read saturday's logs
[17:14] <QueenVee> Lancer: you have it backwards. the spirit dictates the physical, not the other way around....
[17:14] <tenshu> oh okay. sorry :)
[17:15] <QueenVee> if there is very little birthing going on, it's because there aren't many spirits wanting to incarnate in that particular time and place
[17:16] <Lancer> QueenVee: yes, I agree that spirit is senior to physical.... I'm just concerned that if billions die (i.e., lots of spirits w/o bodies) by some natural disaster, then how will those that want bodies have them available in the aftertime
[17:16] <QueenVee> in the aftertime, STS and UNDECIDED souls are being "detoured" to other words, and only STO souls will incarnate on earth; and there will be bodies for them if they want them....
[17:16] <sotos> hmm
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[17:17] <QueenVee> Lancer: don't forget about the hybrids....
[17:17] <QueenVee> hello islander
[17:17] <sotos> QV: Does Nancy ever said where she will go during PS?
[17:17] <islander> hello qv
[17:17] <Lancer> hmmm.... well, I do reckon that there would be lots of bodies simply abandoned by spirits unwilling or unable to have use for them.... and a spirit could just pick one recently so abandoned
[17:17] <QueenVee> sotos: yes, she is in her safe place already, in Wisconsin
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[17:17] <QueenVee> hello tallboy
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[17:18] <tallboy> howdy
[17:18] <sotos> QV: Do you know her ocupation?
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[17:18] <GalacticExplorer> Hi
[17:18] <QueenVee> sotos: something to do with computers
[17:18] <QueenVee> hi GE
[17:18] <sotos> ok..
[17:20] <sotos> She is one of the braivest persons I can imagine. any way
[17:20] <QueenVee> yes, indeed
[17:20] <sotos> You need guts for that
[17:20] <Lancer> QueenVee: I do see what you're saying about sufficient bodies for spirits wanting to incarnate, I just find it difficult to believe that there will be sufficient births in the aftertime immediately after the shift to provide for all those wanting bodies
[17:21] <GalacticExplorer> Hi Queen. Remember I asked scooby if he knew how to create question polls, ... I created couple on my website
[17:22] <QueenVee> Lancer: you're going around in circles on that one
[17:22] <tied2> lancer there is no time in Spirit
[17:23] <tallboy> maybe we could make love instead of war for a change
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[17:24] <GalacticExplorer> Are you talking about spirits here?
[17:25] <QueenVee> souls do not sit around waiting for bodies to incarnate into; a soul makes the decision to incarnate in a particular time and place, and then various interactions take place with suitable parents, who agree unconsciously to accept that soul as a child, and they go about making a baby....
[17:26] <QueenVee> Lancer: your thinking presumes that things happen by accident in the universe, when they don't; they are planned
[17:26] <islander> see you all later
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[17:27] <sotos> 72 days until the appearence of Nibiru.
[17:27] <sotos> true?
[17:27] <QueenVee> yes, sounds right
[17:29] <Lancer> QueenVee: point well taken about "planned" and I so see the error of my ways... I reckon it is the engineer in me that has this linear thinking process
[17:29] <sotos> I wonder at the midlle time betwen the appearance and the ps..None will mension that ZT say that long before? in any TV or Radio media?
[17:29] <QueenVee> sotos: no....
[17:30] <Lancer> I'm going off to read logs and have some din din... will be back later, ya'll have a fruitful time of it, ya'hear!
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[17:30] <sotos> bye lancer
[17:32] <sotos> There are some intresting uniforms and masks at that .. http://www.uscav.com/shop/uscsearchresultsr.asp?search=ctgy&subcatname=Biological%2FChemical&catname=Personal+Protection
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[17:39] <sotos> But can you imagine all those knowing about ZT and not 100% sure yet.. after the appearance of nibiru will be panic everywhere. And those people will become sure and then will inform everyone around without fearing the people to call him crazy.
[17:40] <sotos> him=them
[17:40] <QueenVee> people will still call them crazy
[17:40] <QueenVee> and there will not be "panic everywhere" when nibiru appears, according to ZT....
[17:41] <QueenVee> most will ignore it, accept govt explanations, etc.
[17:41] <QueenVee> panic will not set in until the rotation of the earth stops, because then people will not be able to deny that there is something seriously wrong
[17:43] <sotos> If a reporter find it at ZT ? ?
[17:43] <sotos> TV reporter
[17:44] <GalacticExplorer> Sotos TV reporters can't say whatever they want
[17:44] <sotos> TV leaders are informed?
[17:44] <GalacticExplorer> They read off of the list
[17:44] <QueenVee> if government and scientists are telling people not to worry, it's only Mars close to the earth.... they're going to believe them, not some crazy lady on the internet
[17:44] <GalacticExplorer> Their bosses approve that list and bosses above them told them what to approve
[17:45] <sotos> got it
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[17:45] <QueenVee> hello WC
[17:45] <West_coast> hi QV
[17:45] <sotos> hi WC
[17:45] <West_coast> how are you?
[17:45] <GalacticExplorer> I wonder if one reporter who reads zetatalk spills information about nibiru on national TV, what happens then....
[17:46] <QueenVee> i'm good
[17:46] <QueenVee> GE: well, what would he have to spill?
[17:46] <QueenVee> that he read some site on the internet by a woman who talks to aliens....
[17:46] <sotos> the coisidence of apearence? the warning long before?
[17:47] <QueenVee> but recognized authorities and scientists say it's hogwash?
[17:47] <GalacticExplorer> Good point Queen
[17:47] <QueenVee> they will say the site only just went up; there's nothing to prove that the predictions were made years ago
[17:48] <QueenVee> they will point to groups like Heaven's Gate, and Y2K alarmists....
[17:48] <QueenVee> anyone who points to the red smudge in the sky and cries armegeddon is going to be seen as a nutbar
[17:48] <sotos> I agree with you QV but TV leaders (not CNN :)) wants numbers of audience, that is what counts at least not to big big chanels as cnn
[17:49] <GalacticExplorer> I am sure people will wonder what that red thing in the sky is, and reporters will have to report on that
[17:49] <GalacticExplorer> There is a way to find out, we can wait for another 3 month and see what happens
[17:50] <West_coast> I met a believer today...can't believe it
[17:50] <GalacticExplorer> West how did that happen?
[17:50] <QueenVee> sotos: so, then, why didn't CNN announce to everyone that the Hale Bopp comet was really a spaceship coming to collect the Heaven's Gate people? Surely that would have got a big audience...
[17:51] <GalacticExplorer> I mean people don't usualy talk about it on the streets
[17:51] <West_coast> someone I see once in a while...he had a STACK of documentation about PS
[17:51] <walt> 122 days
[17:52] <sotos> QV: see you point.. Just thinking how humans are those humans :)
[17:52] <GalacticExplorer> oh I see.
[17:52] <QueenVee> well, here's a doozer for you. my cousin that i will be riding the poleshift out with, at her place in the country, told me the other day that within the same week she got emails from friends in BC asking if she knew about PX -- and whether they could come and stay with her if it appears in the sky....
[17:53] <West_coast> sounds like the word is spreading
[17:53] <GalacticExplorer> How many people know about PX in the world?
[17:53] <GalacticExplorer> 10-20 million?
[17:53] <sotos> 1 mil
[17:54] <GalacticExplorer> Sotos you sure its not higher than that?
[17:54] <sotos> never sure
[17:54] <sotos> I guess
[17:54] <West_coast> QV: do you know what CSETI is?
[17:55] <GalacticExplorer> Art Bell has millions of listeners, Rense has millions, Internet is accessible to all ... It can't be 1 million ...
[17:55] <GalacticExplorer> It is my guess as well, sotos
[17:56] <QueenVee> WC: sounds familiar
[17:56] <sotos> I surf years and years on sites about ufos and everithing.... But only by accident found the ZT few weeks before
[17:57] <sotos> Found other Greek guy here? nop..
[17:57] <GalacticExplorer> I found it by accident as well 7-8 month ago
[17:58] <sotos> 10 millions country only one knows?
[17:58] <sotos> how about that?
[17:58] <GalacticExplorer> sotos. He is the only one who talks about it
[17:58] <GalacticExplorer> probably
[17:59] <QueenVee> WC: well, are you going to tell me what CSETI is????
[17:59] <GalacticExplorer> others might be aware, but don't want to be the scape-goat if it doesn't arrive
[17:59] <GalacticExplorer> As Zetas said there is a doubt in humans about this planet
[18:00] <West_coast> I thought you might know...this guy I talked to used to work for them. Part of SETI, I think..alien research?
[18:01] <sotos> All bielek has mention about 2003 catastrophy... Does anyone know about? Does ZTs say anything about him?
[18:01] <QueenVee> who is all bielek?
[18:01] <sotos> Survivor from Philadelphia experiment
[18:02] <sotos> do a search on google
[18:02] <walt> GAL just because they have ,illions of listeners doesnt mean they all believe
[18:03] <GalacticExplorer> People who listen to these radio shows usually believe ... otherwise they would not listen
[18:03] <walt> not really
[18:04] <sotos> http://educate-yourself.org/ab/
[18:04] <QueenVee> sotos: here's what ZT says about the Philadelphia Experiment: http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g08.htm
[18:04] <walt> some listen for the "kook" factor
[18:04] <GalacticExplorer> Besides my question was how many people know about PX, not believe
[18:05] <GalacticExplorer> everyone can change their mind
[18:05] <walt> Most people that know about this are waiting for some confirmation
[18:05] <walt> before committing one way or the other
[18:05] <GalacticExplorer> and when they see the facts they change their minds
[18:06] <GalacticExplorer> that is why the number is higher, and will be even higher in about 4 month
[18:06] <sotos> I find him logical..
[18:06] <walt> Milions have probably heard about it
[18:07] <walt> low thousand probably believe
[18:07] <walt> typical bell curve
[18:07] <GalacticExplorer> My guess is that most of the people who believe and know about PX live in the US
[18:07] <West_coast> anyway, after all the negative responses I have received about PS, it was nice to talk to someone who understands
[18:08] <walt> no thats cant be, we have no freedom of the press here
[18:08] <GalacticExplorer> Its not through the press. If Press was interested in it, a lot more people would be aware
[18:09] <sotos> This page will include information that pertains to events that likely will occur in the year 2003. That's not to say that everything is going to be wonderful until 2003 arrives. There will be significant and unpleasant things happening in 2002 and even 2001, but the most dramatic and devastating scenario will likely unfold in 2003 http://educate-yourself.org/2003/index.shtml
[18:09] <GalacticExplorer> I ,for example, never saw an article about PX in the newspaper
[18:10] <walt> press includes radio, internet, tv, newpapers, magazines
[18:10] <West_coast> QV: CSETI...center for the study of extraterrestrial intelligence
[18:11] <walt> Im waiting for The Weekly World News to pick it up
[18:11] <sotos> QV: Can we ask ZTs if All bielek is true?
[18:11] <GalacticExplorer> Zetatalk is only on internet, and books that are not sold in the stores as far as I know
[18:11] <GalacticExplorer> And of course radio shows
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[18:12] <QueenVee> sotos: well, they've already said that the Philadelphia Experiment is a fiction -- so how could Bielek's story be true?
[18:13] <sotos> ok..
[18:13] <GalacticExplorer> Queen can it be that he took information from zetatalk and just put it in his own words, like Hazelwood?
[18:14] <QueenVee> GE: well, i don't know about zetatalk, but there are SO MANY prophecies out there about 2003....
[18:14] <GalacticExplorer> Yes. We need to research him a little more ...
[18:15] <sotos> He say that moon is a spaceship, parked
[18:15] <sotos> in orbit
[18:15] <QueenVee> sotos: that's silly
[18:15] <sotos> I know
[18:15] <GalacticExplorer> Sotos. What is your opinion about this Bielek person? Do you think his research and writing reasonable and actually makes sence?
[18:16] <tied2> The real experiment with moving between dimensions, which can and does occur naturally on your 3rd Density planet, was done in a warehouse in Kansas - rural, remote, virtually uninhabited because of sparse farm houses and farm hands. The area was inhabited only during planting and harvesting times.
[18:16] <sotos> Before read ZT yes,
[18:16] <sotos> makes sence
[18:17] <sotos> after read zt, then you can see that he is not true line
[18:17] <sotos> not so logical as ZT
[18:17] <GalacticExplorer> Ok, so Moon was a spaceship until you read zt?
[18:17] <sotos> no wayyy
[18:17] <sotos> no :)
[18:17] <GalacticExplorer> :-)
[18:18] <sotos> was just one option in all those around in internet
[18:18] <tied2> the moon is a spaceship for space dust :-)
[18:18] <GalacticExplorer> What I do if I am researching someone, I am looking at their story, can they tell the story twice, does it sound logical, and etc...
[18:19] <GalacticExplorer> tied abandoned spaceship would be better explanation
[18:19] <GalacticExplorer> :-)
[18:19] <sotos> :))
[18:20] <GalacticExplorer> Speaking of space ships. Zetas said that most of space ships are saucer shaped because it is the best form to use
[18:20] <GalacticExplorer> Sphere shaped ships are not very practical
[18:21] <sotos> could be as mother ships
[18:21] <GalacticExplorer> I think their motherships saucer shaped too, but its bigger
[18:22] <sotos> Imagine how exiting will be to drive a ufo? :)
[18:23] <GalacticExplorer> sotos I had a dream when I was piloting a UFO, if its like in a dream, then its best feeling ever
[18:24] <GalacticExplorer> Oh by the way! I experienced missing time today 20 Minutes of missing time ... any comments?
[18:25] <tied2> http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes/
[18:25] <sotos> And still US sientists can't understand from roswell pieces how ufo fly...
[18:26] <GalacticExplorer> tied :-)
[18:26] <tied2> he he
[18:26] <sotos> They are useless guys? or it is suposed to from ZTs
[18:27] <GalacticExplorer> sotos they have full ships and they still don't know how to fly
[18:27] <sotos> is that true?
[18:27] <sotos> I DONT BIELEVE that
[18:27] <GalacticExplorer> about ships yes
[18:27] <GalacticExplorer> Yes it is.
[18:28] <sotos> well .. what to say
[18:28] <sotos> ?
[18:28] <GalacticExplorer> I think Zetatalk talks about them, those ships and how they came to be
[18:28] <GalacticExplorer> on earth
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[18:29] <GalacticExplorer> Basically how you fly it, is through your mind, you use your brain signals to operate the ship
[18:29] <sotos> And if ZTs drop on perpuse their technology what they thoght? that human mind will manage to start the engines? :)
[18:29] <GalacticExplorer> its from zetatalk
[18:30] <QueenVee> sotos: the aliens who gave the U.S. government the ships knew that they would not be able to figure out how to fly them
[18:30] <GalacticExplorer> sotos there are two groups of aliens bad Service to Self (STS), good Service to Other (STO)
[18:30] <sotos> Some not on perpuse tho
[18:30] <GalacticExplorer> STS gave governments those ships
[18:31] <sotos> and forgot to say how to start the engines?
[18:31] <sotos> :)
[18:31] <sotos> strange..:)
[18:32] <GalacticExplorer> No they told them how to turn it on, but said nothing else ...
[18:32] <GalacticExplorer> a lot of people crashed
[18:33] <sotos> ok ... and what is the perpuse for hiding the manual? to kill few drivers? or to black mail Govr?
[18:35] <West_coast> QV: So, with input from BC, is your cousin "coming around" ?
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[18:35] <sotos> I was planing to stop smoking that month.... but I will stop it after the PS any way :)
[18:35] <West_coast> hi jed
[18:35] <QueenVee> WC: oh, my cousin came round a long time ago
[18:35] <jed> hi folks
[18:35] <GalacticExplorer> I think Queen will be able to answer this question, because I forgot
[18:35] <QueenVee> hello jed
[18:36] <jed> hi QV, did you get my email about the dome plans?
[18:36] <GalacticExplorer> I think to let Them STS aliens on the planet Earth and build bases
[18:36] <QueenVee> jed: yes, i did.... you said you were still working on them, yes?
[18:37] <jed> yes, bout half done.
[18:37] <jed> that is, re-working them
[18:37] <QueenVee> sotos & WC: you should read the GOVERNMENT section of ZetaTalk to get the full story
[18:37] <West_coast> ?
[18:38] <sotos> QV: I will..
[18:39] <jed> did the zts say how much of the upper atmosphere would be consumed by the fire in the sky? i am wondering if their is a practical limit to how much above 200' in elevation one would want to retreat to
[18:39] <sotos> QV: STS ZTs are allowed to visit earth?
[18:41] <QueenVee> jed: you would have to get very far up, more like 6,000+ feet to run into problems
[18:41] <QueenVee> sotos: yes, STS aliens visit earth, but cannot coerce or harm humans without their consent
[18:42] <GalacticExplorer> So if you agree to be eaten, ... then you asked for that
[18:42] <jed> thanks QV, that's higher than anything on this side of the country
[18:43] <West_coast> jed: are you still planning to stay in Maine?
[18:43] <QueenVee> GE: yep
[18:43] <GalacticExplorer> Ooops. I live at about 6000 feet
[18:43] <jed> WC: absolutely. most beautiful place on earth - whoops, that's a secret
[18:44] <jed> GE: guess you'd better find a lower elevation?
[18:44] <GalacticExplorer> sotos so if you encounet bad alien, or don't want to get involved into any "abductions" just tell them off :-)
[18:45] <sotos> :) hehehe ok
[18:45] <GalacticExplorer> Well its actually 5280 feet
[18:46] <GalacticExplorer> Mile High city
[18:46] <GalacticExplorer> I guess I'll be alright, well cooked, not too dry :-)
[18:48] <jed> might want a fire-proof dome with a bubble of air inside....
[18:49] <jed> did the latest photos that were taken show up any indication of PX?
[18:50] <QueenVee> brb
[18:50] <sotos> volcanos mostly start inside the sea or low level ground ..never at 5280 feet
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[18:51] <jed> right, but the firestorm that the approaching PX parage is going to ignite will consume the upper levels of oxygen
[18:51] <West_coast> jed: how big are your domes?
[18:51] <sotos> GE: so you will be not cooced at all :)
[18:51] <jed> they are 2 frequency 17' diameter domes, frames made of spruce or fir strapping
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[18:52] <West_coast> jed: ferro-cement?
[18:53] <jed> i have built about 7 so far, some with vinyl skins, some with plywood and fiberlass, but i am planning on doing one this spring in chicken fence and cement
[18:53] <sotos> GE: But wind at PS could transfer you to china :)
[18:53] <GalacticExplorer> He he he better learn chinese then
[18:54] <sotos> right haha :)
[18:54] <jed> wonder how many chinese will survive 250 mph winds?
[18:54] <sotos> none?
[18:55] <West_coast> jed: ZT says winds will be hurricane force, no more
[18:55] <jed> WC: i believe that hurricanes can reach 250
[18:56] <sotos> 400psi
[18:56] <jed> in any event, places like china where millions live in brick or adobe or mud buildings have terrific death tolls after large quakes
[18:56] <sotos> car wash systems drop 500psi
[18:57] <sotos> I could travel to Australia :)
[18:57] <sotos> only with my hand open
[18:58] <sotos> hand=arms
[18:58] <jed> anybody here been stocking up on food lately?
[18:58] <West_coast> not lately
[18:59] * GalacticExplorer gets in a spaceship, yells see ya! and flies away ....
[18:59] <jed> i try to add a little each month. got another bag of rice today and lots of boullion cubes.
[18:59] <GalacticExplorer> Bye
[18:59] <jed> bye
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[19:00] <West_coast> jed: bread mix...just add water
[19:00] <walt> rice, beans, peanut butter, honey
[19:00] <walt> and Matzo crackers
[19:00] <walt> or make hardtack
[19:00] <jed> matzo crackers?
[19:00] <walt> kosher cracker
[19:01] <walt> they are a hard cracker
[19:01] <jed> WC: what do you plan on using to bake bread in after the shift?
[19:01] <walt> dutch oven
[19:01] <West_coast> home made adobe oven
[19:01] <jed> walt: what is the advantage to them? do they keep from going stale for a long time?
[19:01] <walt> yep
[19:02] <jed> i'l have to try them.
[19:02] <jed> WC: did you already make it or have plans?
[19:02] <walt> there are other hard crackers out there
[19:02] <West_coast> jed: have plans from internet
[19:03] <walt> i find the dutch oven more convenient
[19:03] <jed> one of my "to-do" items this spring is to fill a trench with fresh-cut firewood before the PS
[19:04] <walt> I make my own hardwood charcoal
[19:04] <West_coast> walt: do you have plans for dutch oven..or is it marketed?
[19:04] <jed> am also hoping that i can run a small electric chain saw off a bank of batteries
[19:04] <walt> dutch oven is a cast iron pot
[19:04] <jed> walt: how do you prepare the wood, do you cut it into small cubes?
[19:05] <walt> I get my wood at a local cabinet shop
[19:05] <walt> yes small chunks
[19:06] <jed> do you make a mound of clay around the wood to carbonize it or some other method?
[19:06] <walt> put them in a metal 55 drum with detachable lid
[19:06] <jed> ok! thanks
[19:06] <walt> put a 1 in hole in the lids
[19:07] <walt> used scap wood to build a fire around drumm
[19:07] <jed> how long do you let it burn?
[19:07] <walt> cook until smoke stps coming out od lids
[19:08] <jed> if you ran the smoke through a still, i wonder what kind of usefull by products you might have?
[19:08] <walt> i run mine back under the fire to help the cooking
[19:08] <walt> its quite flamable
[19:08] <jed> how?
[19:08] <jed> how do you redirect it?
[19:09] <walt> pipe from lid
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[19:09] <jed> no fan? just the draft?
[19:09] <walt> it comes out under pressure
[19:09] <walt> if you light it on top of the drum
[19:10] <walt> sometimes you can get a 3-4 ft flame
[19:10] <jed> ok. i think that might be also then (the smoke) something that could be used as fuel somewhere else
[19:11] <walt> I use the charcoal to cook on and also in my forge
[19:12] <jed> how small does the wood have to be to make good charcoal?
[19:13] <walt> most of mine are 1 in thick lenght varies
[19:13] <walt> but I like them less than 6 in
[19:13] <jed> does it have to be hardwood? what happens if you use softwood
[19:14] <walt> it will charcoal also
[19:14] <walt> but it desnt burn as well and it burn alot quicker
[19:14] <jed> what is the advantage of charcoal over just the firewood before carbonized?
[19:14] <walt> you ever make fire with flint and steel
[19:15] <jed> nope
[19:15] <walt> wght, no noticable smoke
[19:15] <walt> burns evenly
[19:15] <jed> that can't be the major advantage tho. must burn hotter?
[19:16] <walt> easier to cook over
[19:16] <walt> you ever cook over a wood fire?
[19:16] <jed> so you have baked bread in your dutch oven?
[19:16] <walt> yep
[19:16] <jed> mostly just heat with it. been a long time since i had to use a cook stove
[19:17] <walt> so you are talking a wood burning stove?
[19:17] <jed> well you just convinced me re: the dutch oven. it's going down on the list of things i still need
[19:18] <jed> well, gonna sign off for the nite, thanks walt for the info
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[19:18] <walt> http://www.ceedubs.com/
[19:20] <walt> http://www.goodwoodonline.com/cast_iron.htm
[19:25] <walt> http://www.idos.com/
[19:25] <walt> http://www.lodgemfg.com/
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[19:59] <LeXar> Good evening fellow STO's :)
[19:59] <LeXar> how goes the drill?
[20:00] <QueenVee> hello lexar
[20:01] <LeXar> as usual, 'did more research on herbs and medicinal plants
[20:02] <walt> where you at?
[20:02] <LeXar> well I'm trying to find a good miture of herbs that enhances energy levels with few "fuel" comsuptions...
[20:03] <LeXar> Echinacea seems pretty interesting
[20:03] <LeXar> but it needs to be mixed with two other herbs to really effect the body properly
[20:04] <LeXar> anywho's one definite must on my list is Ju Hua... improves sight capabilities
[20:05] <LeXar> too bad most grow in China
[20:06] <walt> Where are you at?
[20:06] <LeXar> My location? Quebec... Actually I live in Quebec City
[20:07] <LeXar> Quebec a definetively a prosper area for the after world
[20:07] <walt> go to your local clloege and get a Ethnobotany book for your region
[20:08] <LeXar> Ccan't French
[20:08] <LeXar> all my herb books I buy whe I go see my family in the US
[20:08] <walt> it will tell you what the natives used for food and medicine
[20:09] <LeXar> got a whole bunch of plants they used in my books
[20:09] <LeXar> :)
[20:09] <LeXar> don't worry about that
[20:10] <walt> not worried about it at all
[20:10] <walt> just giving some more resources to check
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[20:12] <walt> do you eat those plants on a regular basis?
[20:12] <Bruce> Hello
[20:12] <walt> if you dont start now
[20:12] <walt> Hi
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[20:13] <walt> because switching to a foraged diet will cause some serious gasto/intestinal problems
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[20:19] <LeXar> I slowly started
[20:20] <LeXar> and really slowly
[20:21] <LeXar> but I'll probably suffer from intestinal problems at first
[20:21] <LeXar> these are pure... were use to pills all too much
[20:22] <LeXar> besides there are many counter intestinal gases herbs, the list never ends..
[20:23] <scooby-afk> check this out:
[20:23] <scooby-afk> http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes/
[20:23] <scooby-afk> At long last we can now feel safe and secure. With
[20:23] <scooby-afk> the new Homeland Security Bill having passed and been
[20:23] <scooby-afk> implemented, we can all breath a huge sigh of relief !
[20:23] <scooby-afk> The FBI says none of us will even notice anything:
[20:23] <scooby-afk> delays, or any other oddities, while surfing the Internet,
[20:23] <scooby-afk> answering our e-mails, or downloading files. Their new
[20:23] <scooby-afk> software tools operate unobtrusively, and quietly in the
[20:23] <scooby-afk> background, to bring our nation a much higher level of
[20:23] <scooby-afk> internal security.
[20:26] <scooby-afk> haha just scrooled back and saw tied posted that...
[20:26] <scooby-afk> sorry...
[20:26] <scooby-afk> scrolled...
[20:28] <LeXar> bah
[20:28] <LeXar> security my ass
[20:29] <LeXar> I'm a god damnit American and I never felt secured without a gun... ... but don't judge me a tyrant, that I am not
[20:30] <LeXar> if you look up a police officer's duties, nothing mentions for him to pledge any help to any US citizen calling for help
[20:31] <LeXar> it's like the 9-1-1 phone line, it's a louzyset up to "show" the nation how much they "care" ...
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[20:33] <mr-pen> HELLO
[20:33] <LeXar> Hi
[20:34] <mr-pen> ~~* .o O
[20:35] <LeXar> How are you tonight?
[20:35] <mr-pen> not to bad, how about yourself?
[20:37] <LeXar> to be honest, I'm in desperate need of rest...
[20:37] <LeXar> work too much and few recuperation
[20:38] <mr-pen> righty OI
[20:38] <LeXar> 12 harsh hours of work a miserable 5 hours of sleep
[20:38] <mr-pen> ouch
[20:38] <LeXar> this has been my situation for the last 2 ans a half weeks
[20:38] <LeXar> got too much things to prepare for the pole shift...
[20:39] <mr-pen> ya...
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[20:39] <mr-pen> like 1 years supply of food heh
[20:39] <mr-pen> HELLO
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[20:39] <JP> hi
[20:39] <LeXar> I'll be stalking up on tuna so much...
[20:40] <LeXar> and many more foods
[20:40] <JP> tuna ina packet, spam, canned corn etc just a ton of cans
[20:40] <mr-pen> rice
[20:40] <mr-pen> 100$ for 2 years supply
[20:41] <JP> yea but the water and fuel to cook all that
[20:41] <LeXar> rice will be a great supplement
[20:42] <mr-pen> and beans for your full protine
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[20:42] <JP> but where you gonna get good water and heat to cook a ll that?
[20:42] <mr-pen> HELLO
[20:43] <mr-pen> water: ill make some stills and heat: a fire will do
[20:43] <Nick> whers queen?
[20:43] <JP> how much do still cost to make or can we buy them already made?
[20:43] <JP> stills
[20:43] <mr-pen> away she is
[20:44] <Nick> was she here b4?
[20:44] <JP> soon back will she be
[20:44] <Nick> thx yoda
[20:45] <mr-pen> no no yada is on #earthchanges :)
[20:46] <JP> why aren't you all watcing the crappy American music awards? Last time.... I won't miss them much
[20:46] <Nick> u meen yodar
[20:46] <mr-pen> AHH! no theyve got you 2!
[20:47] <mr-pen> ~~* .o O
[20:47] <walt> http://www.health-n-energy.com/cirrus.htm distiller
[20:47] <Nick> its that sound again...
[20:47] <Nick> hmmm
[20:48] <mr-pen> i was thinking about making some condensers
[20:48] <walt> http://www.naturalsolutions1.com/ecodist1.htm
[20:48] <mr-pen> and buy some beakers and attacch to a pot for boiling
[20:48] <JP> cool Thanks Walt for helping great ideas
[20:49] <Nick> who here has experienced knocking -- randomly?
[20:49] <mr-pen> ya good links
[20:49] <mr-pen> nick knocking?
[20:49] <Nick> the sound is right outside...knock...knock -- slowly
[20:50] <Nick> happens sometimes
[20:50] <walt> http://www.aqua-sun-intl.com/
[20:50] <Nick> sometimes from inside the walls of the house
[20:50] <JP> nive to get a nice preview to the years when there are more STO than shites and liars who pass for leaders and shakers and movers
[20:51] <walt> http://www.purwater.com/
[20:52] <LeXar> jp, didn't quite understand that last sentence of yours...
[20:52] <walt> http://www.exstreamwater.com/
[20:53] <Nick> are there any other channels besides #earthchanges #god #psd #zt #t-t ?
[20:53] <mr-pen> i knew the moving man was up to no good but did they listen ta me noooo!
[20:53] <mr-pen> LOL
[20:54] <walt> http://www.prostar-mechanical.com/
[20:54] <JP> It is Nice to get a nice preview to the coming years when there are more STO types (kida like wly helping out here) as oppsed to the STS here currenlty who paass for leaders, movers, shakers
[20:54] <mr-pen> whats a shaker?
[20:55] <JP> a mover and a shaker is a term for a finnagagling yuppie type
[20:55] <JP> move some deals shake money out of people
[20:56] <mr-pen> o i see
[20:56] <walt> http://www.katadyn.net/index.shtml check out the expedition filter
[20:57] <mr-pen> thnx
[20:58] <JP> The sharing of info here (ie Walt) is a step towards STO. The having to have everything,considering other less than and inpatient with others who dont get you thats what I wont miss at all and a STS is whats out there
[20:59] <JP> hard to type fast with the three finger method sorry about that
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[21:00] <LeXar> Bud... for your information, everyone in this room is probably already STo,...
[21:00] <Valdrix> ello
[21:00] <LeXar> STO people are all equal.....
[21:01] <JP> yes LeXar most likely only time will tell for sure I'll spring for that
[21:01] <walt> except some are more equal than others
[21:02] <walt> couldnt help that : )
[21:02] <walt> "Animal Farm"
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[21:02] <JP> more experienced with certain facets but no more equal in terms aright to life as any other - I know you are joking but that old ego thinkin
[21:03] <LeXar> walt ... shocking but true.....
[21:04] <QueenVee> LeXar: ZT indicates that those who make a point of referring to themselves as "STO" probably aren't. For that reason, i ask people not to do that here.
[21:04] <LeXar> Will do
[21:05] <mr-pen> hello QV
[21:06] <scooby-afk> nick: for all channels available do this: /list
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[21:06] <scooby> hello mr-pen
[21:06] <QueenVee> hi inkpen
[21:06] <mr-pen> hi scooby
[21:06] <scooby> feeling funky?
[21:06] <mr-pen> heh
[21:06] <QueenVee> inkpen: tex as been missing you
[21:06] <scooby> awww
[21:07] <mr-pen> yah i reallize i havent been around much lately :(
[21:07] <mr-pen> im trying to find a new place to live but im not sure where
[21:07] <scooby> hard thing to do... move..
[21:07] <mr-pen> the island is a big place
[21:07] <scooby> where r u?
[21:07] <scooby> i thought bay area
[21:08] <mr-pen> saanich on van island
[21:08] <scooby> ok
[21:08] <JP> anyway, disregarding, the earlier judgement play, Thanks Walt for all the info on distillers very kind to share
[21:08] <scooby> where is that
[21:08] <mr-pen> about 4 miles to cordova bay from here
[21:08] <QueenVee> walt is chock full of good info
[21:09] <mr-pen> indeed
[21:09] <scooby> ok
[21:09] <QueenVee> inkpen: uh... wouldn't it be a good idea to get off the island alltogether?
[21:09] <scooby> where is that
[21:09] <JP> sure enough he is
[21:10] <mr-pen> well QV im not 100% sure...but if im on i can garauntee some of my friends survival
[21:10] <mr-pen> i mean on the island
[21:11] <walt> I have tons of survival/self-sufficiency links on just about everything
[21:11] <scooby> ah hah!
[21:11] <scooby> van island=vancouver island
[21:11] <mr-pen> yep :)
[21:11] <scooby> lol
[21:12] <scooby> i love google
[21:12] <mr-pen> heheh
[21:12] <QueenVee> inkpen: you can't guarantee your own survival, let alone your friends
[21:13] <LeXar> unfortunate
[21:14] <mr-pen> true but what else can i do? i know the island itself will remain... i dont think i could live with myself if i knew there was a chance they could...being skeptical...would not prepare much...so i help in that regard
[21:14] <QueenVee> but there's an extremely slim chance that you will survive the shift itself
[21:15] <walt> and a slimmer one for the time after
[21:15] <walt> 90% is not good odds
[21:15] <mr-pen> why do you say that walt?
[21:15] <QueenVee> inkpen: what makes you say that island itself will remain?
[21:16] <mr-pen> http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx095.htm
[21:17] <Valdrix> 90%? i think it is more like 70 or 80%, after you account for the loss of life in the new pole locations.
[21:18] <walt> ZT says 90%
[21:19] <walt> hell even 70-80% isnt that great odds
[21:19] <Valdrix> nod.. 90% of world wide.. but, 18% of the world pop lives in only one of the new pole locations
[21:19] <QueenVee> inkpen: sorry, i didn't realize ZT said that about Vancouver Island, it would seem that you would have a better chance than i thought
[21:19] <mr-pen> only slightly...but there still will be added drama here
[21:20] <mr-pen> vertical quakes dont sound to good
[21:20] <walt> they beat the horizontals ons
[21:20] <mr-pen> heh
[21:21] <mr-pen> mabey..instead of being flung you get tossed :)
[21:21] <Nick> imbk
[21:21] <QueenVee> not to mention those diagonal ones
[21:21] <JP> I was in the Loma Preita San Francisco earthqauke of 89 in Candlestick park I got bounced up and down a bit
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[21:22] <QueenVee> Guest: please change your nickname to something other than Guest, or you will be automatically disconnected
[21:22] <walt> just remember to continue your limbering up excercises
[21:22] <mr-pen> heh
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[21:22] <mr-pen> o..k..
[21:22] <walt> so when that day comes you can stick your head between your knees and.............
[21:23] <walt> : )
[21:23] <walt> its all a crap shoot
[21:23] <mr-pen> kiss my ass good bye? LOL
[21:23] <JP> I rode out a killer quake in Coalinga Ca in the eighties by surfing the rolling ground no lie
[21:23] <walt> you rolls your dices, you takes your chances
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[21:23] <scooby> nick: to find out what other channels are available try this: /list
[21:23] <mr-pen> HELLO
[21:23] <scooby> hello hummver
[21:24] <LeXar> Hello Humvee nice to see you
[21:24] <mr-pen> it is qiute a pity this ps has to happen
[21:24] <QueenVee> hey humvee
[21:24] <humvee> hi there its movie nite here whats up there
[21:24] <scooby> im rather looking forward to it inky
[21:24] <scooby> nice change of scenery...
[21:24] <Valdrix> anyone know aprox the % of the worlds pop that lives in coastal areas? or a good website that has that sort of info?
[21:24] <JP> me too sigh
[21:24] <mr-pen> true...but at what cost?
[21:24] <scooby> from above water to underwater
[21:25] <mr-pen> LOL scuba gear
[21:25] <scooby> lol
[21:25] <scooby> scooby gear
[21:25] <mr-pen> LOL
[21:25] <LeXar> well
[21:25] <LeXar> I have to gop get my beauty sleep
[21:25] <scooby> no idea val
[21:25] <JP> youre killing me make it stop
[21:25] <Valdrix> k
[21:25] <mr-pen> nite lexar
[21:25] <LeXar> while I still have a cumfy cumfy bed,,,,,
[21:25] <scooby> get lots of it...
[21:25] <scooby> : )
[21:25] <scooby> nite leXar
[21:25] <LeXar> great talking with all of you
[21:25] <mr-pen> same
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[21:26] <scooby> he should check that speelling error
[21:26] <scooby> lol
[21:26] <mr-pen> heheh
[21:26] <Nick> scooby: well, i mean related channels :)
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[21:26] <mr-pen> HELLO
[21:26] <nels> hello
[21:26] <QueenVee> hello nels -- what brings you to this room?
[21:27] <scooby> nick: oic
[21:27] <nels> want to learn more on this coming event
[21:27] <scooby> i think you found them all
[21:27] <mr-pen> nick you could always try *gahsp* troubled_times
[21:27] <scooby> he listed that one
[21:27] <scooby> waaaaaaaaaay earlier
[21:27] <scooby> i was scrolling back
[21:27] <QueenVee> nels: best way to do that is to read www.zetatalk.com
[21:28] <QueenVee> nels: what is it you want to know?
[21:28] <scooby> nels: if you wish to chat about it the