Session Start: Tue Jan 14 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
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[00:34] * Topic is 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
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[00:34] -ChanServ- (#poleshiftdiscussion) Welcome to the SHIFT2003 CHAT ROOM (www.shift2003.com) Moderator: QueenVee59@hotmail.com
[00:34] <humvee> did u pay 4 the holstein?
[00:34] <IaNZ> About $150 us ea
[00:35] <humvee> not bad shud be good company 4 u
[00:35] <IaNZ> Nice friendly eyes.
[00:35] <tarshish> just get out of their way when the 15 richter quakes are shakin'
[00:35] <humvee> we r getting chucks (chickens) 4 the eggs
[00:36] <tarshish> stampede
[00:36] <IaNZ> It's chooks!! I have some too.
[00:36] <humvee> we cant eat bugs against our relgeion so hav to feed 2 chucks
[00:37] <humvee> chooks
[00:37] <humvee> we r still lerning english ere
[00:37] <humvee> we grow us speakin local
[00:38] <humvee> a kind o pig latin
[00:38] <IaNZ> It's NZ/Aussie....not english.
[00:38] <IaNZ>   So youre a local??
[00:38] <humvee> ever do elf language
[00:38] <humvee> no i jus pretend  in the chat room i get away wih it
[00:39] <IaNZ> I know Hawaiian pidgin... cant understand a word:-)
[00:39] <humvee> ben ere so long know all the slang names 7 qitea a bit o Hawaiian
[00:40] <humvee> then this white guy shows up at the meetings LOL
[00:40] <IaNZ> And you plan to hang on in Kauai?
[00:41] <humvee> even our propereties in hawaiian named trusts  own buss w/ hawaiian names etc
[00:41] <humvee> actually almost no one here is buying anything 2 prep so would b suiside 2 stay - SADLY
[00:42] <tarshish> why?....
[00:42] <IaNZ> But thats the same worldwide it seems.
[00:42] <humvee> we r doing lots 2 help spread the word
[00:42] <tarshish> how?
[00:42] <humvee> even having meetings this month etc
[00:43] <tarshish> people look at you blank-eyed and slack-jawed when you try to tell them?
[00:43] <IaNZ> Youre brave.. talk about suicide:-)
[00:43] <humvee> post notices - tell ppl - rag on relitives - get the coconut wireless going
[00:44] <IaNZ> Is Kauai still full of Hippies??
[00:44] <humvee> well ben doin it 4 2 years now - its becoming obvious
[00:44] <tarshish> my relatives would tell me to get help if i tried to tell them
[00:45] <humvee> well if u go 2 the papayas health food store / Hiana beach areas then yess
[00:45] <humvee> good floks mostly
[00:45] <IaNZ> I'm fairly careful who I open up to.  
[00:45] <humvee> I dont care i m leaving
[00:46] <IaNZ> No problem.. Im from the 60s
[00:46] <humvee> but u cant tell most o the ppl
[00:46] <IaNZ> Where will u go?
[00:46] <tarshish> it's gonna take a good earthquake and firestorm to convince most people
[00:46] <humvee> they r not able 2 hear - hav u noticed
[00:46] <tarshish> and by then they will be screaming too loud to listen
[00:47] <humvee> when it is visible - then they will look up info on the bulitin board notes i post
[00:47] <IaNZ> Actually even some who listen... don't do anything.
[00:48] <humvee> they will hav time 2 prep but food like staples will become scarse
[00:48] <IaNZ> I worry that they will all turn up on my doorstep
[00:48] <tarshish> all the pinto beans will be gone
[00:48] <humvee> exactly my point IaNZ
[00:48] <humvee> if u hav a bowl o rice here it is cummunal
[00:49] <humvee> my rels hav said they dont believe but jus incase they can always come over
[00:49] <IaNZ> Food is only one thing.  Tools and housing etc the other.
[00:50] <humvee> scarry thought
[00:50] <tarshish> the starving masses will hear you breaking wind and know that you are holding out
[00:50] <humvee> true n i dont diet well
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[00:50] <IaNZ> The solution seems to be to lie low till they all die.
[00:51] <humvee> going 2 be in  MN w/the sweeds n norwegens
[00:51] <tarshish> isn't that sad?.....
[00:51] <tarshish> what a predicament
[00:51] <IaNZ> Not very STO
[00:51] <tarshish> what else can you do?
[00:51] <humvee> not pos 2 lay low as only high place is not big enough 2 hide
[00:51] <IaNZ> The zetas actually suggest it.
[00:52] <humvee> we walked all o the hill they dad went to rent a house in MN
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[00:52] <humvee> the place u happen 2 b makes a big diff on ur options
[00:52] <IaNZ> NZ has lots of hills.
[00:53] <tarshish> i'm thinking there will probably be roaming hordes of cannibals
[00:53] <humvee> yes better than a small is with only 1 hill
[00:53] <IaNZ> I agree.. not easy to find all the features tho
[00:53] <humvee> coast 2 coast taLKING RE: ANNUNAKI NOW
[00:54] <humvee> RICH GREER is saying they screed our history up
[00:54] <IaNZ> Interesting....lots of people listen..
[00:55] <humvee> plus i dont want 2 bury my family n friends
[00:55] <IaNZ> But academic now that were in 2003....
[00:56] <humvee> 4 months 2 finish here 2 settle in then CHAZAM were there
[00:56] <humvee> i love that word so Clintonesk
[00:56] <IaNZ> Are u completely convinced now.. or waiting for a few last signs?
[00:57] <humvee> no saw the movie - we r going either way - LLLOOOLLL
[00:57] <tarshish> what movie?
[00:57] <humvee> SIGNS
[00:58] <humvee> a joke
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[00:58] <humvee> the imaging is pretty convincing and we r getting rock fever
[00:59] <tarshish> where are you going?
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[00:59] <IaNZ> Yeah.. I don't plan to move.  But the evidence is stacking up.
[00:59] <humvee> there was a movie on thepoleshift - going to Minesota ne usa coast
[00:59] <tarshish> don't tell me to the top of a volcanic mountain to hide in a lava tube
[01:00] <humvee> wow a plan that had not occured 2 me  -  a lava tube  hmmm...
[01:00] <IaNZ> Bit different from Kauai!!!!
[01:00] <tarshish> you'll be warm at least
[01:00] <humvee> u betcha
[01:01] <humvee> cold 4 2 months then warm w/in hours
[01:01] <humvee> aslo early morning during rotation stop  instead o nite here
[01:01] <IaNZ> I need a big earthquake of someting.. to get me going...
[01:02] <IaNZ> Actually we just had a small one tonite:-)  Happen all the time.
[01:02] <tarshish> spotting it in the sky.....and seeing the govt going crazy
[01:03] <humvee> I know what u mean - all o a sudden all factors r banging on us to get going - ppl yelling at us all kinds o weird stuff
[01:03] <tarshish> when the janitor is giving press releases at the white house
[01:03] <tarshish> that is a good sign
[01:03] <IaNZ> If we wait for that.. we'll miss the bus..
[01:03] <IaNZ> And the beans
[01:04] <humvee> u know it  lately reporters r more n more interviewing each other  another sign
[01:04] <humvee> buy ur beans early n avoid the RUSH
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[01:05] <obany> hi and bbl/brb
[01:05] <BoY> hi obany
[01:05] <IaNZ> I dont know.. I observed Y2K... a lot of beans and bullets...
[01:06] <humvee> hi obany - we r taking a pool on when SteveH will come out with an excuse ops i mean analysis
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[01:06] <humvee> i got some rubber bulits out o the dump fm pd trash
[01:07] <tarshish> what about static charges in the atmosphere?....could electrical storms start zapping any and everything made out of metal?....that might not be good for the folks hiding in holes with a metal roof
[01:07] <IaNZ> Lol.. I'm logging on all the time... to see ..
[01:07] <humvee> run a ground wire
[01:07] <humvee> or wet ur tounge
[01:07] <Richard> hi all
[01:07] <humvee> hi richard
[01:08] <Richard> what happened yesterday humvee as regards sarah from la ?
[01:08] <obany> humvee: no exuse ... analysis yes, esuse no
[01:08] <IaNZ> Shit.. worry about the basics... thats bad enough..
[01:08] <obany> and if you wonna talk about exuses, then use #earthchanges or so ..
[01:08] <humvee> turned out to be sci-astro a big hairy debunker
[01:09] <Richard> whatta yer know
[01:09] <Richard> had a 'feeling'
[01:09] <tarshish> a debunker in here?
[01:09] <obany> okay i will ret a little late
[01:09] <obany> are
[01:09] * humvee is now known as Saramustash
[01:09] <Richard> hi laNZ another kiwi :)
[01:10] * Saramustash is now known as humvee
[01:10] <IaNZ> U too?
[01:10] <Richard> me 2
[01:10] <IaNZ> Where..roughly?
[01:10] <Richard> over the 'hill' from you
[01:10] <tarshish> how do you debunk a brown dwarf heading into the solar system?
[01:10] <Richard> Waikato
[01:11] <humvee> jus wanting 2 get a rise out o you - all o us wait on pins n needles to hear
[01:12] <tarshish> i can't wait for may 2003....
[01:12] <tarshish> get these pins and needles out of my ass
[01:12] <humvee> QueenVee said this am ppl come on and try 2 get something they can use to further debunk px
[01:12] <Richard> it will arrive soon enough
[01:13] <IaNZ> Below all those dams Richard.
[01:13] <Richard> yeah .... at the moment
[01:13] <Richard> you on flats or hills
[01:13] <IaNZ> Goy
[01:14] <Richard> Goy?
[01:14] <tarshish> i wonder what will happen to the astronauts in the space station as px passes?
[01:14] <IaNZ> Hills... think I can stay put.  
[01:15] <IaNZ> Got,,..you message but couldnt reply....
[01:15] <IaNZ> Happy to chat.
[01:15] <Richard> thanks
[01:16] <Richard> can you reply in personal chat box?
[01:16] <IaNZ> What is your e mail?  I'm an old Te Awamutu ite
[01:16] <IaNZ> Don't  know how
[01:16] <humvee> tar i hope they take pictures as they become patr of the entourage o px
[01:17] <IaNZ> Sorry to others.
[01:17] <Richard> click mouse in box and type like you are doing here
[01:17] <tarshish> hmmmm....good thought....join the moons
[01:17] <Richard> you see my email?
[01:17] <IaNZ> How
[01:18] <IaNZ> No box closed
[01:18] <humvee> wonder what they will do with all our satalites
[01:18] <Richard> see my name in the right hand menu bar ... well double click on my name
[01:18] <IaNZ> Type and push enter?
[01:18] <tarshish> probably the van allen belt will get screwed up when the earth quits rotating and everything will fry......their film will get ruined
[01:18] <tarshish> no pictures
[01:18] <humvee> maybe we should send some cell phones to
[01:19] <IaNZ> Nothing
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[01:20] <humvee> Aaaaa hi
[01:20] <Aaaaa> hi
[01:20] <Richard> new box open on your screen?
[01:20] <IaNZ> no
[01:20] <Richard> that's weird
[01:20] <humvee> richard i dbl clicked on ur nick opens a private chat u c
[01:21] <humvee> richard will do again watch
[01:21] <IaNZ> OK, it was closed below
[01:23] <humvee> tar why wuc v a belt change?
[01:24] <humvee> oh stripped off u mean
[01:24] <tarshish> nobody understands what generates the va belt....possibly it is generated by rotation of the earth's iron core in an elctrical field of space
[01:25] <tarshish> stooping the rotation could douse the magnetic field generated
[01:25] <tarshish> stopping
[01:25] <humvee> the va belt is where all the non-physicals hang out - supposedly
[01:27] <tarshish> hmmmm....the nasties?
[01:27] <humvee> the mag is result of nuclear reactor in 5 mile plutonium center
[01:28] <tarshish> i've heard that
[01:28] <humvee> will still run no matter what position it is in
[01:32] <humvee>  .
[01:32] <tarshish> but if the mag field got knocked out, no magnetic attraction....hmmm
[01:32] <tarshish> so that can''t be right
[01:33] <humvee> why would it?
[01:34] <tarshish> metals....iron molten core....rotating...carrying a charge....generate a magnetic field
[01:35] <tarshish> nobody is sure and it has never been fully explained.....there is that plutonium core theory....read that a while back
[01:36] <humvee> electricity runs through metals around core generator then make magnetic fields like a turning magnet
[01:36] <humvee> is a big motor
[01:38] <humvee> i think main change after loss of atmosphere rain n drizzle volcanos ash
[01:39] <humvee> warmer lousy weather overall
[01:39] <tarshish> possibly scorching radiation....
[01:39] <tarshish> maybe
[01:39] <humvee> u think bcuz less ozone rite
[01:40] <humvee> but more sun screen in air
[01:40] <tarshish> well...if the poles shift, that will temporarily disable the protection the va belt provides
[01:40] <tarshish> gamma, x-rays, etc
[01:40] <humvee> why would it?
[01:41] <tarshish> because the va belt is the magnetic field
[01:41] <tarshish> it blocks radiation
[01:41] <humvee> van allen belt is particles held there by field - dont know re px effects
[01:42] <humvee> thats a good question for sat zt session
[01:42] <humvee> how wud you word it?
[01:43] <humvee> will the passing px vacuum off our van allen belt?
[01:43] <humvee> LOL
[01:43] <tarshish> will there be atmospheric cosmic radiation surges that will fry us like microwave popcorn?
[01:44] <tarshish> pop
[01:44] <tarshish> crackle
[01:44] <humvee> LOL2
[01:45] <humvee> how do humans taste?
[01:45] <tarshish> chicken?
[01:45] <humvee> how is the colinization of earth going?
[01:46] <humvee> where are the highbirds?
[01:46] <humvee> better stop r we will get kicked
[01:47] <humvee> we were doing so good earlier w/lists to have 4 the shift
[01:49] <tarshish> well...i need to go buy out the local supply of pinto beans
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[01:49] <humvee> leaving
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[01:49] <Aaaaa> gotta zzzzz g'nite
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[02:01] <Richard> you here scooby?
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[02:07] <scooby> yeah
[02:07] <scooby> sorta
[02:07] <scooby> crashing down tho
[02:07] <Richard> sleep?
[02:08] <scooby> sleepy
[02:08] <Richard> when do you go on your cruise
[02:08] <Richard> end of this week
[02:08] <scooby> leave for florida day after tomorrow
[02:08] <scooby> yup
[02:08] <scooby> leave for nassau on Fri
[02:09] <Richard> a well earned rest
[02:09] <scooby> yeah
[02:09] <scooby> away from the clutter of home
[02:09] <Richard> you cruise around the bermuda triangle  :+)
[02:09] <Richard> note I said around
[02:10] <scooby> lol
[02:10] <scooby> a-round.
[02:10] <scooby> got it
[02:10] <scooby> not thru, but around
[02:11] <Richard> I think we all have too much material stuff surrounding us these days
[02:11] <scooby> si
[02:11] <Richard> gonna start selling stuff soon
[02:11] <Richard> learn to get back to basics
[02:12] <Richard> I've got LP records that haven't been played for years
[02:12] <scooby> LOL
[02:12] <Richard> so out they will go
[02:13] <scooby> i thought you were gonna break them out and play them instead of your CDs
[02:13] <scooby> lol
[02:13] <Richard> only way to play them afterwards will be my arm with finger holding a pin (or nail) in the groove on a potters wheel
[02:13] <scooby> easier than CDs
[02:13] <scooby> : )
[02:13] <Richard> true
[02:14] <Richard> or dvd's
[02:14] <Richard> do you talk to your wife about px?
[02:14] <scooby> as little as possible
[02:14] <scooby> she kinda believes
[02:15] <scooby> but at the same time she doesnt
[02:15] <scooby> want to believe
[02:15] <Richard> but doesn't want to discuss it or think about it
[02:15] <scooby> kinda like if I dont think about it it wont happen
[02:15] <Richard> understand
[02:15] <scooby> you married?
[02:16] <Richard> like my daughter yelled at me down the phone "ITS NOT GONNA HAPPEN"
[02:16] <scooby> LOL
[02:16] <Richard> married with 3 kids all left home now
[02:16] <scooby> she's a paid debunker?
[02:16] <Richard> wife believes big time
[02:16] <Richard> lol
[02:16] <scooby> must be nice to have a partner in crime
[02:16] <Richard> no just has a 4 month old son
[02:16] <scooby> oic
[02:17] <Richard> our first grandchild
[02:17] <scooby> wow
[02:17] <scooby> we have my folks' first 2 grandchildren
[02:17] <Richard> yeah scary
[02:17] <scooby> 2 1/2 and 4 mos
[02:17] <scooby> yeah, very scary
[02:17] <scooby> i kinda wanted to see the kids grow up and all
[02:17] <Richard> I remember you saying in earlier talk
[02:18] <scooby> does your wife do IRC chat?
[02:18] <Richard> recently I read somewhere that native people's have stopped having children as they know from their prophecies what is coming
[02:18] <scooby> i find it very reassuring to know there are others out there
[02:18] <Richard> wife doesn't do irc chat anymore
[02:19] <scooby> that is very interesting...  native to what?  NZ?
[02:19] <Richard> I've only come back to chatting after 5/6 years
[02:19] <scooby> ever since "the accident?"
[02:19] <scooby> lol
[02:19] <Richard> yeah sice discovering about the inbound
[02:19] <Richard> sice = since
[02:20] <Richard> native peopl's globally
[02:20] <Richard> we white people don't get told anything
[02:20] <scooby> oic
[02:20] <Richard> except do this and do that and jump when we say so
[02:20] <scooby> how high sir?
[02:20] <obany> back
[02:21] <scooby> hi obany
[02:21] <Richard> hi obany
[02:21] <Richard> i'm looking forward to Bush's Jan 28th state of nation speech
[02:21] <Richard> will be interesting to see what he doesn't say
[02:22] <scooby> yeah...  that is a good point
[02:23] <Richard> certainly the media give conflicting reports about possible war
[02:23] <Richard> personally i think bush is shipping out all young males so they aren't a problem in the usa during/after the sahift
[02:24] <scooby> that is one way to look at it
[02:24] <scooby> another is that he is positioning people to be in strategic locations post shift
[02:24] <Richard> could be you think
[02:24] <Richard> that as well
[02:24] <scooby> maybe both?
[02:25] <Richard> :)
[02:25] <Richard> well should be :(  actually
[02:25] <Richard> :)
[02:26] <scooby> heh
[02:26] <Richard> we are middle of summer here
[02:27] <Richard> but last night and today the wind had a chill to it like the wind coming off a snowy mountain
[02:27] <scooby> wow
[02:27] <Richard> then see on weather forecast this evening they had snow on the hills down near Wellington
[02:27] <obany> i see your point Richard
[02:27] <Richard> the weather is gone crazy
[02:27] <obany> snow in summer
[02:28] <Richard> obany: on Christmas Day they had snow in the south island
[02:28] <scooby> it just aint right
[02:28] <Richard> showed people on the TV news throwing snowballs at each other
[02:28] <obany> Richard: i think you mentioned that back then ....
[02:28] <Richard> I did
[02:29] <scooby> fwiw i missed it
[02:29] <obany> Right i remember
[02:29] <Richard> how is the weather in the Netherlands
[02:30] <obany> it's ups and downs.. last week it was below zero now above .. it's well a little strange that's what i can tell ..
[02:30] <Richard> basically the same here ... ups & downs
[02:30] <obany> unstable
[02:30] <Richard> ebb & flow
[02:31] <Richard> just like zeta's said
[02:31] <scooby> has anyone looked at the latest pics of pX?
[02:31] <Richard> jan 10 ones?
[02:32] <scooby> i guess
[02:32] <Richard> haven't seen them yet myself
[02:32] <scooby> i've been a bit out of touch...
[02:32] <obany> scooby yes, and do you see something, the what looks like a tail or whatever ... like a streak .. or so ... altough the research on the pix is still going on
[02:33] <scooby> so why does everyone keep saying it has disappeared?
[02:33] <obany> i am sure it hasn't ...
[02:33] <scooby> lol
[02:33] <Richard> cause they jumped in before research completed
[02:34] <Richard> the debunkers want to debunk
[02:34] <Richard> its in their nature
[02:34] <scooby> tru
[02:34] <obany> i am not the one to trust yadaa ... aka howmo (as i am sure it's the same person, same ISP)
[02:34] <obany> or Michael Cunningham
[02:35] <Richard> their debunking follows the same pattern
[02:35] <Richard> with nothing to offer
[02:35] <obany> idon't on sci.astro howmo on IRC and yadaa on tt-watch heeheh :) but the one and the same ..
[02:35] <Richard> look at the history of civilisation
[02:36] <scooby> they are almost worse than religious fundamentalists... trying to save us from ourselves...
[02:36] <scooby> they being the debunkers
[02:36] <obany> just look at the IP adress and look at the dns of it ...
[02:36] <obany> moment
[02:36] <Richard> if its not going to happen why are they so adamant on debunking
[02:36] <scooby> obany: have you kids?
[02:37] <scooby> exactly richard
[02:37] * scooby takes a nice long puff off this fat hoint
[02:37] * scooby coughs
[02:37] <Richard> they must be bush bible bashers  :)
[02:37] <Richard> homegrown?
[02:37] <scooby> ere
[02:37] <scooby> no - Mexican
[02:38] <obany> scooby: nope i am single
[02:38] <scooby> but good
[02:38] <Richard> cool
[02:38] <Richard> haven't seen that in years
[02:38] <scooby> yer lucky
[02:38] <scooby> obany
[02:38] <Richard> Acapulco Gold ... still avaialble?
[02:38] <scooby> what havent you seen in years?  mexican or herb in general?
[02:38] <Richard> Mexican
[02:38] <scooby> probably somewhere...
[02:39] <scooby> its all just commercial mexican
[02:39] <Richard> gone to the dogs
[02:39] <scooby> dont know if I could pick out acopulco goldie by sight
[02:39] <scooby> lol
[02:39] <scooby> some is better than others
[02:39] <scooby> pretty cheap here in San Diego
[02:39] <scooby> $50-$80 US
[02:40] <scooby> per ounce
[02:40] <Richard> an ounce?
[02:40] <Richard> that's cheap
[02:40] <scooby> very
[02:40] <scooby> on my list of stock up items i added one thing tonite:
[02:40] <scooby> rolling papers
[02:40] <scooby> lol
[02:40] <Richard> lol
[02:41] <Richard> could always use bark
[02:41] <scooby> bringing it to a grand total of 3
[02:41] <scooby> papers
[02:41] <scooby> herb
[02:41] <scooby> matches
[02:41] <scooby> lol
[02:41] <scooby> bark, eh?
[02:41] <Richard> well in the absense of paper
[02:41] <scooby> i guess some bark will roll well...
[02:41] <Richard> use bark
[02:42] <scooby> for TP as well?
[02:42] <Richard> teepee? or TP
[02:42] <scooby> TP
[02:42] <Richard> so what's TP
[02:42] <scooby> toilet paper
[02:42] <scooby> lol
[02:42] <obany> mmm can't fid it now.. ... but well never mind
[02:42] <Richard> o yeah
[02:43] <scooby> cant find what obany?
[02:43] <Richard> big joint
[02:43] <scooby> yeah a blunt
[02:43] <obany> look what Nancy mentione some time ago
[02:43] <obany> Naaldwijk.NL.EU.FunNet.Org,#zetatalk.xchatlog:<NancyL>  And a quote from JWillia
[02:43] <obany> m, who noted on his postings "To: idon't/howmo,probably Yaada and the other sock
[02:43] <obany>  puppet names you use on Sci.Astro and elsewhere; It really makes me wonder how
[02:43] <obany> many of you debunkers there really are? I have identified 5 names used by this i
[02:43] <obany> ndividual over the past year. Do we see an effort by one projected as many? Yes!
[02:43] <obany> "
[02:44] <scooby> i saw that too
[02:44] <Richard> cunning
[02:44] <scooby> and those who accuse nancy ofbeing in it for the $$
[02:44] <scooby> Do you know anyone who has given her $$ ?
[02:44] <obany> the point is i kinda checked it.. and howmo and that yadaa guy are using the same ISP
[02:45] <scooby> I dont ...  at least no one has admitted it
[02:45] <scooby> thats funny
[02:45] <scooby> not surprised really
[02:45] <obany> scooby : you have to check the troubled times inc site
[02:45] <Richard> I offered to buy books and she never answered email
[02:45] <obany> she ain't in it for the money
[02:45] <Richard> how's that for someone wanting $$
[02:45] <scooby> i know
[02:45] <obany> as long as i know her
[02:45] <Richard> I know
[02:46] <scooby> gives her that much more credibility in my book
[02:46] <scooby> and she
[02:46] <scooby> 's not a very good cult leader
[02:46] <scooby> if that is what she is trying to be
[02:47] <Richard> funny thing was it was Hazelwood site that led me to zetatalk
[02:47] <scooby> so there goes that claim out the window
[02:47] <Richard> he wanted money so I looked further
[02:47] <scooby> hmmm
[02:47] <obany> "Even Nancy's poverty level is a ploy, though real, in that the Hazlewood plot was to assocate Nancy with money scams, which she avoided by working and being broke, as she has been most of her life"
[02:47] <Richard> found zetatalk ...thanks hazelwood
[02:47] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t149.htm
[02:47] <scooby> at least the guy gave credit to a certain extent
[02:48] <Richard> yep
[02:48] <obany> mmm i didn't know you whee talking about hazle
[02:48] <obany> hehehe .. yet i mentioned something in wich he got mentioned :)
[02:48] <scooby> you were here when he came around, yes?
[02:48] <Richard> crazy
[02:49] <scooby> no such thing as circumstances
[02:49] <Richard> what lead me to hazelwood was a site called metatech
[02:49] <Richard> which is based in australia
[02:50] <obany> i was there, when he emailed those money emails to the troubled times forum
[02:50] <scooby> lol... that was supposed to be coincidences
[02:50] <scooby> there are of course circumstances...
[02:50] <Richard> lol
[02:50] <obany> think you where lead into ZT maybe ...
[02:50] <Richard> yep
[02:51] <Richard> my very first email to nancy after findingZt was "How come I've always known this"
[02:52] <Richard> like a surpressed memory was a woken
[02:53] <obany> this is the IP of idon't 216.222.15.122  and this the IP of yadaa X-Originating-IP: 216.222.15.85
[02:53] <obany> :)
[02:53] <Richard> hmmm
[02:54] <scooby> a little too similar unless they are neighbors
[02:54] <Richard> they think he might be a govt stooge or just a plain debunker
[02:54] <Richard> they = you
[02:54] <obany> not sure ... but he can be very persistant when he is on IRC
[02:54] <obany> as howmo
[02:55] <scooby> do they debate the same?
[02:55] <Richard> who are all the lurkers who sit in this channel day after day without ever saying anything?
[02:56] <obany> well idon't mentioned on sci.astro that he is the same as howmo ...
[02:56] <obany> Richard: maybe they will talk later on  ..... when we are sleeping or whatever
[02:56] <Richard> possibly
[02:56] <scooby> maybe they are spies
[02:56] <scooby> lol
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[02:57] <scooby> welcome stevie
[02:57] <Richard> morning
[02:57] <stevie> morning
[02:57] <stevie> whats going on?
[02:58] <Richard> not a heck of a lot
[02:58] <obany> hi stevie.... ... btw for stevie it's afternoon for me it's almost noon
[02:58] <obany> 11:58am here
[02:58] <Richard> its nearly midnight for me
[02:58] <scooby> 3:58 AM here
[02:58] <stevie> 11.11 here
[02:58] <scooby> scratch that ... 2:58 AM
[02:58] <scooby> yikes
[02:58] <Richard> 12.00 am here Wednesday
[02:58] <obany> wait wait for you it's one hour earlier ..
[02:59] <obany> ehehhehehe
[02:59] <obany> my mistake
[02:59] <stevie> you guy's must be tired
[02:59] <obany> i ain't
[02:59] <scooby> yeah
[02:59] <obany> =Dutch
[02:59] <Richard> kiwi
[02:59] <stevie> english...
[02:59] <scooby> san diegan
[02:59] <Richard> english kiwi
[02:59] <scooby> lol
[02:59] <Richard> lol
[02:59] * obany is right back .. brb
[02:59] <stevie> what we talking?
[02:59] <Richard> which part of england
[03:00] <stevie> essex
[03:00] <Richard> cortina country
[03:00] <stevie> lol
[03:00] <stevie> no
[03:00] <Richard> :)
[03:00] <stevie> capri
[03:00] <Richard> now capri
[03:00] <stevie> lol
[03:00] <Richard> Alexi Sayle
[03:00] <stevie> richard what part are you?
[03:01] <Richard> originally from Portsmouth but now north island ..New Zealand
[03:01] <stevie> whats new zeland like?
[03:01] <Richard> where in essex?
[03:01] <Richard> 4 million people
[03:01] <stevie> southend
[03:02] <Richard> same size land mass as UK
[03:02] <stevie> we have 4 million just in london
[03:02] <Richard> so LOTS of open space
[03:02] <Richard> but not Auckland where over 1 million live
[03:02] <stevie> sound's kool
[03:02] <Richard> 'fools
[03:03] <Richard> weather is going crap here as well tho'
[03:03] <stevie> did you move there to escape passage?
[03:03] <Richard> no lived here since I was a kid
[03:03] <Richard> that was 43 years ago  :+)
[03:03] <Richard> came here when I was 6
[03:03] <stevie> your doomed as well then..i live on the coast..
[03:04] <scooby> i'm heading for bed kids...
[03:04] <Richard> yer the east side which has been slipping for years
[03:04] <scooby> nite stevie and rich
[03:04] <Richard> later scooby
[03:04] <stevie> later
[03:04] * scooby is now known as scooby-afk
[03:04] <stevie> bye
[03:04] <obany> i am still here .....
[03:04] <scooby-afk> lol
[03:04] <Richard> how long have you known as px
[03:04] <scooby-afk> bye obany
[03:04] <stevie> how old are you guy's
[03:05] * scooby-afk waves at obany
[03:05] <Richard> 49 me . Scooby is early 30's
[03:05] * obany waves at scooby
[03:05] <scooby-afk> 32
[03:05] <Richard> how old obany?
[03:05] <stevie> 31..me
[03:05] * obany is 31 will turn 32 next month
[03:05] <Richard> I'm amazed at number of young people
[03:05] <Richard> who are aware
[03:06] <stevie> happy birthday for then orbany
[03:06] <obany> stevie :)
[03:06] <scooby-afk> happy birthday you youngen
[03:06] <obany> still some 6 weeks to go
[03:06] <Richard> scooby ...get to bed
[03:06] <scooby-afk> nite
[03:06] <scooby-afk> lol
[03:06] <Richard> :+)
[03:06] <obany> scooby stay awake :) don't sleep chat
[03:06] <obany> :P
[03:07] <scooby-afk> bastard
[03:07] <Richard> no cookies for you young lad
[03:07] <scooby-afk> : )
[03:07] <obany> i command you and you will comply ;)
[03:07] <scooby-afk> oh no!!  run!!!
[03:07] * scooby-afk runs away screaming
[03:07] <Richard> crazies
[03:07] <stevie> nancy is on the lougentile show..28th feb..
[03:07] <obany> i know i know
[03:07] <Richard> steve how long ago did you find out about px
[03:08] <stevie> least a year
[03:08] <Richard> same for me
[03:08] <stevie> do i belive..
[03:08] <stevie> not sure,,
[03:08] <Richard> seems about the same time for a number of people
[03:08] <Richard> 911 open the door for me
[03:08] <obany> i know about it since early 1995
[03:08] <stevie> do you belive rich at the date stated?
[03:08] <Richard> I do
[03:09] * obany too
[03:09] <Richard> or not long after (June)
[03:09] <stevie> what gives you that idea?
[03:09] <Richard> lots & lots of reading
[03:09] <Richard> watching
[03:09] <Richard> I work outdoors
[03:09] <Richard> watch nature
[03:09] <stevie> i do
[03:10] <stevie> i belive something big does hapen in eath's history...
[03:10] <Richard> its all there in past civilisation crashes/disappearances
[03:11] <obany> Richard i agree
[03:11] <Richard> trouble is we have been fed false history at school
[03:11] <Richard> I love history so its easy for me to read
[03:11] <stevie> you know what richard if i see the red dragon 7 weeks before shift im going to be shitting it..
[03:11] <Richard> from history we can learn
[03:12] <obany> the exodus of Moses, ... for example, the disappearence of the Minioc society . on Crete also occured at that time frame for what i know
[03:12] <stevie> what do you say to family
[03:12] <Richard> its gonna be real hard on us all
[03:12] <stevie> no one will belive us
[03:12] <Richard> you have brothers & sisters steve
[03:13] <stevie> i have a beautiful girlfriend as well as two sisters two brothers
[03:13] <Richard> talked to any of them about it?
[03:14] <Richard> my wife believes
[03:14] <Richard> and she is a chronic diabetic
[03:14] <Richard> knows she will not last long afterwards
[03:14] <stevie> well one sister is to give birth this month.what do you say?
[03:14] <Richard> don't tell sister yet as she would have enough on her mind
[03:14] <stevie> i know ......
[03:15] <Richard> but you know so when shit hits the fan be there for her
[03:15] <stevie> my other two brother are traveling the world at the moment....
[03:15] <Richard> which part of world are they in?
[03:16] <stevie> thialand then to india
[03:16] <Richard> India ...oohhh
[03:16] <stevie> not good
[03:16] <stevie> maybe australia
[03:16] <Richard> how many billion in India?
[03:17] <stevie> lost count
[03:17] <Richard> :)
[03:17] <Richard> obany where do you go in the Netherlands?
[03:17] <stevie> i told my mum and friend just to warn them they think im crazy..
[03:17] <Richard> Swiss alps
[03:17] <obany> Richard: what do you mean ?
[03:18] <Richard> well no hills/mountains in Netherlands ...right?
[03:18] <obany> where i will go .. well i want to go to Sweden .. but a friend of mine wants to go to German
[03:18] <obany> y
[03:18] <Richard> Sweden would be better than Germany I would think
[03:18] <obany> Yes yes ... i am sure of that ...
[03:18] <stevie> im staying put......
[03:19] <Richard> last two floods in Germany showed what will happen
[03:19] <Richard> there are no guarantees for any of us
[03:19] <stevie> richard do you think the time frame might be wrong?
[03:20] <Richard> if it is steve I'm gonna have a lot of finance firms chasing me  :+)
[03:20] <stevie> no you serius
[03:20] <stevie> serious
[03:20] <Richard> have no money
[03:21] <stevie> your waiting then for it to happen..
[03:21] <Richard> so plan is trade in car nearer the time for 4 wheel drive.
[03:21] <obany> Richard: for what i read on the safe loc page it will be save at Munich ...
[03:21] <obany> or Munchen as we say in the the Netherlands
[03:21] <Richard> no repayments will ever be made as system will collapse on passage
[03:21] <obany> right
[03:21] <stevie> what happens if its all false
[03:22] <stevie> no planet
[03:22] <Richard> stiil if in hiding they won't find us so if its a month late should still be ok
[03:22] <stevie> lol
[03:22] <Richard> if its false then so be it
[03:22] <stevie> so be it..
[03:22] <Richard> it doesn't matter as world financial system is collapsing anyway
[03:23] <stevie> what should we look out for now..
[03:23] <Richard> but they are keeping the money demise very quiet
[03:23] <Richard> ok here is a clue
[03:24] <Richard> wheat production worldwide is down due to drought & strange weather
[03:24] <stevie> i agree...
[03:25] <Richard> about 3 weeks ago we were told price of bread/baked goods would have to go up 30% ... just as a start
[03:25] <Richard> today I go to buy bread and the price had dropped.
[03:25] <stevie> nnot mentioned in england yet..
[03:26] <Richard> my question is : is the govt doing quiet subsidy to not have panic
[03:26] <Richard> as everyone is maxed out on their money cards
[03:26] <stevie> why not tellus.......
[03:26] <Richard> paper says price to go up. price of bread drops
[03:26] <obany> not every country is in the know ... moment
[03:27] <Richard> can't have panic in the streets
[03:27] <stevie> it might bring man together
[03:27] <stevie> knowing we might all die
[03:28] <Richard> i think people are actually more mature in their thinking than the govt thinks we should be
[03:28] <stevie> whats the point in looting with 3 mounths of life to go.....
[03:28] <Richard> or realises we are
[03:29] <Richard> to me part of the hoax is to get people to return home to be with loved ones
[03:29] <stevie> i want to be with my family and friends and say sorry to the people i might have upset thing's like that..not loot..
[03:29] <Richard> hence terrorist' airline failure so people travel less
[03:30] <stevie> i do see our world well f###ed up........
[03:30] <Richard> I don't know why but I want to be around afterwards to tell people what happened and to help where possible
[03:30] <stevie> good for you.....
[03:30] <obany> here is one http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g178.htm  and http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g112.htm http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g132.htm  
[03:30] <Richard> collecting lots of seed
[03:31] <obany> hence what they say about Sweden
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[03:31] <stevie> what's the next big thing to look out for in the media..telly..
[03:32] <stevie> radio
[03:32] <Richard> what they don't tell you
[03:32] <stevie> there's got to be a big earth quake soon........
[03:32] <Richard> have you looked at the news that queenvee posts on shift2003?
[03:32] * juditness is away.. lead me on, eternally. [mail: judit@geekychick.org] at 12:34:19
[03:33] <stevie> not yet what's it say
[03:33] <Richard> so many diasters happening and the telly news will be lucky to report one
[03:33] <stevie> there no way they would miss a big earth quake...
[03:34] <Richard> if it was in a populated area they won't
[03:34] <stevie> emploding cities
[03:34] <obany> yes, collapsed buildings
[03:34] <Richard> queenvee has reported on sinkholes appearing in Athens?LA?Houston
[03:36] <stevie> just going to get some lunch.............will you still be here?
[03:36] <Richard> I might have to go steve
[03:36] <stevie> ok
[03:36] <Richard> gotta work in the morning
[03:36] <Richard> i come here regularly
[03:36] <stevie> if your not here speak soon......
[03:37] <Richard> ok
[03:37] <stevie> byeeeeeeeee
[03:37] <stevie> BRB
[03:38] <Richard> obany: how did you discover about px?
[03:39] <obany> well .... let's say i was pointed to it...early 1995 i posted on alt.alien.visitors etc.
[03:40] <Richard> have you had contact
[03:40] <obany> and one thing led to another
[03:40] <Richard> i think we have contact more often than we understand
[03:41] <obany> well i rather leave that question on answered ... about if i had contact yes or no
[03:42] <obany> i was posting this type of emails http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=gerard.7.00101986%40euronet.nl&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
[03:43] <Richard> on zetatalk it often says "prior to 1995" (or is it 1996) the zeta's said ........
[03:43] <obany> started with that early 1995 ... or so
[03:43] <obany> zetatalk started early 1995
[03:43] <Richard> so prior to 95 where were the messages posted?
[03:43] <obany> Richard: it started as a forum on iscni
[03:44] <Richard> aha
[03:44] <obany> so in early 1995 it wasn't on the world wide web yet
[03:44] <Richard> so was iscni prior to the zetatalk site?
[03:44] <obany> yes ...
[03:44] <Richard> I understand now
[03:44] <Richard> and when did things begin on iscni?
[03:45] <obany> i know about the 2003 date since well it first got mentioned by the Zetas ..
[03:45] <obany> early 1995 ... or around the end of 1994 ...
[03:45] <Richard> so you have plenty of time to plan
[03:45] <obany> yes, but i could have done much much more
[03:45] <obany> with planning ahead
[03:45] <Richard> how do you find the nature of people who have only found out the message in the last year?
[03:46] <obany> some good, some well want to rely to much on the pictures, they want more evidnece etc
[03:47] <Richard> trouble is once they can see it it could be too late to plan
[03:47] <obany> richard i agree
[03:47] <Richard> only having found out in the last year is hard enough
[03:48] <obany> like zetatalk said about those who want that horn to blow
[03:48] <Richard> as I think it takes a number of months just to absorb all the info and except what is what
[03:49] <obany> Richard: sicne i know it for so long, i know what it says and what i mentions    
[03:49] <obany> but yes i take some time to absorb
[03:49] <Richard> likewise
[03:49] <Richard> it is such an extensive site
[03:50] <obany> i agree
[03:50] <obany> a lot of info
[03:50] <Richard> moving to a higher density is the exciting part
[03:51] <Richard> whether I get to see it or not is another matter
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[03:52] <Richard> but that is what spurs me on
[03:52] <obany> yes, earth turning into a place for those who are Service to Others
[03:52] <obany> earth turning into a better place
[03:52] <Richard> a garden of eden
[03:52] <obany> right now it's a mess ... the way society works
[03:53] <Richard> its in worse mess than people know
[03:53] <Richard> everything is dying
[03:53] <obany> right right
[03:54] <Richard> I was reading an article earlier this evening about depleted uranium
[03:55] <Richard> and what it has done to the troops in the gulf war and the region
[03:55] <Richard> just incredible what another human will do to each other
[03:56] <Richard> and then america denies it has caused any illness
[03:56] <Richard> they destroyed all the records kept by doctors etc
[03:56] <Richard> so they didn't have to face the music
[03:56] <Richard> this was the 91 gulf war
[03:56] <obany> i was looking the dutch indymedia site interresting ... here the international version www.indymedia.org
[03:57] <Richard> and now they wan to do it all again
[03:57] <obany> Richard: and more things occured
[03:57] <obany> i think i read once about the CIA dealing drugs in Harlem or so
[03:58] <Richard> I read about how the CIA put the hard drugs into San Francisco at the end of the 60's to stop the peace/love generation
[03:58] <Richard> the hippies are mentioned as part of Hopi Prophecy
[03:59] <obany> so much cruelness
[03:59] <obany> okay going to watch the news now back in like 10 min :)
[03:59] <Richard> crazy
[03:59] <Richard> obany
[03:59] <Richard> I had better away to sleep
[03:59] <obany> k
[03:59] <obany> so talk to you ltrs
[04:00] <Richard> will see you tomorrow possiblt
[04:00] <Richard> y
[04:00] <obany> if you are still on while i am gone okay else sleep well
[04:00] <obany> i mean back
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[04:20] <stevie> hello anyone there????????
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[04:35] <obany> quiet again ... ooh well
[04:41] * obany food
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[05:18] <obany> hi
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[06:25] <Nibiru> anyone alive?
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[08:24] <QueenVee> helly met -- what brings you to this room?
[08:24] <QueenVee> helly=hello
[08:24] <met> Interested in the coming poleshift
[08:24] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[08:25] <met> for the past month
[08:25] <QueenVee> what area do you live in?
[08:26] <met> Malaysia, South East Asia, not very safe I'm afraid
[08:26] <QueenVee> no, afraid not
[08:26] <QueenVee> have you read all of the zetatalk site yet?
[08:26] <met> Qvee, how can I be convinced that the poleshift will occur
[08:27] <met> Yes,  but not all of zetatalk
[08:28] <QueenVee> met: you have to read all of the available material and evidence and decide for yourself
[08:28] <QueenVee> we are not here to convince anyone
[08:28] <QueenVee> please note:
[08:28] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[08:29] <met> I go into zetatalk daily and read all the disasters that occur
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[08:37] <tied2> hey ret
[08:37] <reticuli> hello
[08:37] <QueenVee> hey
[08:37] <tied2> whats new?
[08:37] <reticuli> back in school finally
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[08:37] <reticuli> and still working of course
[08:38] <tied2> at least someone is
[08:38] <reticuli> :)
[08:38] <QueenVee> i am so pissed off....
[08:38] <tied2> why?
[08:38] <reticuli> whats up?
[08:38] <QueenVee> some bitch has been using the NETWORK WITH OTHERS page of my website to run a money scam
[08:38] <tied2> who?
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[08:39] <QueenVee> this is the same bitch who constantly emails me complaining because i don't submit any of her questions to nancy...
[08:39] <reticuli> lol
[08:39] <reticuli> i remeber u mentioning her
[08:39] <tied2> what was her name listed on the network with others page?
[08:39] <reticuli> whats the scam?
[08:40] <tied2> how did you find out?
[08:40] <tied2> come on give us the skinny :-)
[08:41] <QueenVee> she goes by the name of Francis/Candice, and her email address is ofo@mo-net.com
[08:41] <QueenVee> someone complained to me
[08:41] <QueenVee> she gives people a sob story about how she's got eight children to protect, and is taking out a loan, but needs to put a "deposit" on the loan of several thousand dollars....
[08:42] <tied2> those are all over Usenet lol
[08:42] <reticuli> what STO soul could turn that down
[08:42] <reticuli> j/k
[08:42] <tied2> one with a brain?
[08:42] <QueenVee> you won't believe this bitch, hold on....
[08:42] <reticuli> lol
[08:43] <reticuli> its probably not even a woman
[08:43] <tied2> never heard of a deposit for a loan????
[08:44] <QueenVee> the person she approached sent a copy of her letter to me, and told her to piss off. so she write him the following response:
[08:44] <QueenVee> I see you sent a copy of my letter to Queenvee......Interesting. I was trying to do some projects to help her. And I was going to give her and Nancy some of the funds from the loan. It was going to be a pleasant surprise. Great. Just Great. Why didn't you just call me or ignore the letter or help, like an STO? She has her hands full, don't you think?
[08:45] <QueenVee> can you believe it?????
[08:45] <reticuli> LOL
[08:45] <reticuli> unfortuantely I can believe it
[08:45] <tied2> be a good little STO queen and send me all your money
[08:45] <QueenVee> so i've sent her the following email:
[08:46] <reticuli> "honest, i was going to give the money away"
[08:46] <QueenVee> How DARE you use my website to run a money scam. Your profile has been removed from my site, you are banned from the Shift2003 Chat Room, and the following notice has been posted on the "Network With Other Poleshifters" page of my site:
[08:46] <QueenVee> Warning: Do not respond to any communications from an individual who goes by the name of Francis/Candice at the email address of "ofo@mo-net.com", as she has attempted to solicit funds from individuals on this page. Please not respond to ANYONE who requests money, and please report any such requests to me IMMEDIATELY at queenvee59@hotmail.com
[08:46] <QueenVee> aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggg
[08:46] <reticuli> sounds like damage was averted
[08:47] <tied2> I wonder if the person got any funds at all? properly not.
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[08:47] <QueenVee> hello Dr
[08:48] <reticuli> usually people wont admit it when they have been scammed
[08:48] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> âñåì ïðèâåò!
[08:48] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> hi all!
[08:48] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> hello Queen
[08:48] <reticuli> howdy
[08:48] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> wat's new ?
[08:48] <reticuli> so you are a whole team of people...?
[08:49] <QueenVee> Dr: everything new can be found at www.zetatalk.com, and www.shift2003.com
[08:50] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> ok
[08:50] <reticuli> where does your tema live DR.?
[08:51] <reticuli> tema=team
[08:51] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> no team
[08:51] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> a im alone
[08:52] <reticuli> hmmm, what does it mean when someone has a name in [ .... ] ?
[08:52] <reticuli> becasue your name identifies you as a "team"
[08:52] * juditness is away.. bbiab [mail: judit@geekychick.org] at 17:54:13
[08:52] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> oh. i see now!
[08:53] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> i am just forget about it
[08:53] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> we had plal in game at IRC
[08:53] <reticuli> ok, well where do you live?
[08:54] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> i living in Moscow, Russia
[08:54] <Dr__Mabuzu[Dr_Mabuzu-team]> and you ?
[08:54] <reticuli> seattle, ussa
[08:54] <reticuli> usa
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[08:56] <tied2> Dr. did you ever see that billboard with what looked like PX on it in Moscow?
[08:57] <QueenVee> too late
[08:57] <reticuli> queen, I am sending you a funny file
[08:58] <QueenVee> connection failed
[08:58] <tied2> yep
[09:00] <reticuli> k, queen, im sending it to you on MSN
[09:02] <reticuli> what was the name of that guy on hawaii that used to come here?
[09:02] <QueenVee> mmm, dr-something....
[09:02] <reticuli> fist
[09:02] <QueenVee> right
[09:03] <reticuli> we get a lot of DR's in this place
[09:03] <QueenVee> apparently he and PJ suddenly decided that the poleshift was not going to happen
[09:03] <reticuli> ;)
[09:03] <reticuli> well thats no reason to be antisocial
[09:03] <reticuli> ahhh, I thought there was more to our relationship than the poleshift
[09:04] <QueenVee> well, it was VERY strange
[09:05] <QueenVee> PJ is co-owner of this chatroom, founded it with me....
[09:05] <QueenVee> never said a word to me, just disappeared
[09:05] <reticuli> I have tried to engage PJ in a conversation about it... he is evasive
[09:05] <QueenVee> someone else told me that he and fist had made that decision
[09:06] <QueenVee> well, some people put their need to avoid discomfort before courtesy to others
[09:06] <reticuli> hmmm, well you know I am not at all convinced that the poleshift will occur as indicated in zetatalk, but yet here I am
[09:06] <reticuli> oh well
[09:07] <reticuli> i guess belief is important to a lot of people
[09:08] <QueenVee> i'm sure that are other "regulars" here that no longer "believe", but come here for social reasons; which is fine with me, as long as they do not use the room to try and convince others of their point of view....
[09:08] <reticuli> right
[09:08] <QueenVee> i just ask that people respect the parameters of the room
[09:09] <reticuli> thats the thing that is so laughable about the debunkers claims that this is a cult
[09:10] <QueenVee> right. no one is trying to control anyone else's thoughts, beliefs....
[09:10] <reticuli> well, the debunkers are
[09:10] <QueenVee> just don't want them trying to push theirs on us
[09:10] <QueenVee> i don't view it as my responsibility to try and convince anyone else of what i believe....
[09:11] <reticuli> no one has ever interrogated me about my feelings about px here they way they do in that 'other channel'
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[09:12] <QueenVee> ret: the fact of the matter is that most of here probably go through ups and downs on the subject....
[09:12] <reticuli> yes
[09:12] <QueenVee> i just want this to be a room that people can keep coming back to when they're in an "up" cycle, so to speak....
[09:13] <reticuli> makes sense
[09:13] <QueenVee> not a room where people can talk endless about the doubts and anxieties of whether it is "true" or not....
[09:13] <QueenVee> it's an ASSUMPTION that we all have those doubts and anxieties
[09:17] <reticuli> have we heard from poleshift lately?
[09:17] <QueenVee> lol
[09:17] <QueenVee> not lately
[09:17] <QueenVee> what a hoot he is
[09:18] <QueenVee> god, i hate pretentious people
[09:18] <reticuli> lol, he must be taking some time of to care for the carbon unit that houses his databank
[09:18] <reticuli> time off
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[09:20] <reticuli> we even have nurses here
[09:20] <QueenVee> hehe
[09:20] <QueenVee> hi RN
[09:20] <QueenVee> we were just talking about how many people here use the nick "Dr"....
[09:20] <RNTHOMAS> Howdy...
[09:21] <RNTHOMAS> Just thought I'd poke my nose in and see how things are goin...
[09:21] * reticuli is now known as Dr
[09:21] * Dr is now known as Dr_reticuli
[09:21] <Dr_reticuli> ahh, thats more authoritative
[09:22] <RNTHOMAS> Yup, I'm here to kick butt!!  lol
[09:23] <QueenVee> i prefer the title of "Queen" myself....
[09:23] <Dr_reticuli> lol
[09:23] <QueenVee> though i may upgrade to "Benevolent Dictator"....
[09:23] * Dr_reticuli is now known as DR_RETICULI
[09:23] <DR_RETICULI> el duce
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[09:24] * DR_RETICULI is now known as LORD_RETICULI
[09:25] <LORD_RETICULI> thats better, now ppl will listen to me
[09:25] * RNTHOMAS is now known as KingVee
[09:25] <LORD_RETICULI> hehe
[09:26] <KingVee> There, now everyone's gotta listen to me... I'm da king! lol!
[09:26] * LORD_RETICULI is now known as LORD_RETICUVEE
[09:26] <KingVee> Actually, all the responsibilities too much a pain in the butt!
[09:26] * KingVee is now known as RNTHOMAS
[09:26] <RNTHOMAS> They, peaceful ness is restored...
[09:27] <QueenVee> you are flirting with danger, my friend....
[09:28] <LORD_RETICUVEE> who, me?
[09:28] * QueenVee realizes that her subjects are in revolt....
[09:28] <LORD_RETICUVEE> mutiny
[09:29] * QueenVee decides that the best course of action is to.... get a cup of coffee..... brb....
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[09:29] <reticuli> hello
[09:29] <light332> lets celebrate!
[09:29] <reticuli> celebrate what?
[09:30] <light332> LIFE
[09:30] <reticuli> ok, you first
[09:30] <light332> Hoooray, im alive!
[09:30] <RNTHOMAS> All I feel is Yuk, I'm at work...
[09:30] <reticuli> congrats
[09:31] <light332> words sucks
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[09:31] <reticuli> if you think that you are in the wrong place light
[09:31] <reticuli> hehe
[09:31] <light332> words are just for confusion
[09:31] <reticuli> where do you live light?
[09:31] <light332> swede
[09:32] <reticuli> oh yeah, what part?
[09:32] <light332> scania
[09:32] <light332> skåneland
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[09:33] <reticuli> ja alska sverige
[09:33] <light332> moose is nice
[09:34] <light332> I love the land, anoyyed by the mainstream people and culture
[09:34] <light332> lovely rave parties though
[09:34] <reticuli> yes, well you get that everywhere, however it could be worse, you could be here in the states
[09:35] <light332> is it worse really?
[09:35] <reticuli> people are ignorant
[09:35] <light332> I mean, ok. I guess I just don't have many freeminded friends
[09:35] <reticuli> people are very undereducated here
[09:36] * light332 cries a tear or two
[09:36] <reticuli> this is an underdeveloped country
[09:36] <reticuli> lol
[09:36] <reticuli> i have been to sweden
[09:36] <light332> I have been to California
[09:37] <reticuli> i suppose a place seems better when you are a tourist
[09:37] <light332> damn either you are copying our culture or its the other way
[09:38] <light332> maybe, that damn self-destructing way we exploit nature seem so bad all and everywhere like a damn weed growing all over earth
[09:39] <reticuli> well i wish that the US would copy your democratic system and get rid of this soviet systme we have here
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[09:39] <reticuli> lol
[09:39] <light332> I want 100% communism, but only if all 100% is from the beginning 100% communists........
[09:40] <reticuli> well, soviet system was lenninist
[09:40] <light332> I just want Freedom....free...we are not free yet
[09:41] <reticuli> US is one of the least free countries on the planet
[09:42] <reticuli> You always become what you fight against, in this way the US is moving towards a totalitarian govt
[09:43] <light332> and sweden has a war on drugs........mwohahha
[09:44] <reticuli> lol
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[09:46] <QueenVee> hello abe -- what brings you to this room?
[09:46] <light332> I don't use drugs because of fear, all the people around me are educated DRUGS ARE BAD, and so even when Im high on love my parents may hack on me
[09:46] <abe> I wondered if anyone has seen planet x?
[09:46] <reticuli> "love" where can I buy that?
[09:47] <reticuli> how old are you light?
[09:47] <QueenVee> abe: everything about sightings can be found in the "PlanetX Sightings" section of www.zetatalk.com
[09:47] <light332> you cant.....you have to do nothing and just give, let go, and it will flow
[09:47] <light332> 19
[09:48] <abe> Will the "main stream" news ever tell us what is happening?
[09:48] <reticuli> queen, did you hear that those pilots that bombed the candians in afganistan were hopped up on dexedrine?
[09:48] <QueenVee> abe: no
[09:48] <QueenVee> ret: sure did
[09:48] <light332> and im f****in pissed of, because in our city we repress anger
[09:49] <reticuli> yes, northern europeans are repressed
[09:49] <QueenVee> ret: and americans aren't?
[09:49] <light332> yes, it sucks
[09:50] <reticuli> I am making a cultural assesment, most americans hail from northern europena culture so I would say that they are as repressed
[09:51] <QueenVee> those scandanavians sure ain't sexually repressed
[09:51] <reticuli> lol, this is true
[09:52] <reticuli> americans could use a little more anger repression and a little less sexual repression
[09:52] <light332> repression sucks, I wanna flow in full color
[09:53] <reticuli> hmmm, sounds like a good x trip
[09:53] <reticuli> j/k
[09:53] <QueenVee> light: then just do it, don't expect everyone else around you to be the same
[09:53] <light332> people here walk like chill robots, when I walk lovely, like some jamaican man, I look like a monkey , but are we robots or monkeys?
[09:54] <reticuli> you are monkey, your comrades are robots
[09:54] <QueenVee> light: stop worrying about what others are doing; just be yourself and follow your own heart
[09:54] <light332> qv, yeah im tryin
[09:56] <obaway> mm here one can post his own articles etc : www.indymedia.org :)  
[09:56] <obaway> hi queen
[09:56] * obaway is now known as obany
[09:56] <RNTHOMAS> For food preservation, I'm considering...  Buying a dehydrator and a food saver...
[09:57] <QueenVee> hi obany
[09:57] <reticuli> yes, that started in seattle in preparation of the WTO obany
[09:57] <RNTHOMAS> Use the de-hydrator to de-hyrate stuff...
[09:57] <light332> im planning to take like nothing with me,or perhaps a bag and a sleeping bag
[09:58] <RNTHOMAS> Then using a Vingegar - CO2, put CO2 into the food saver bag to displace the O2
[09:58] <reticuli> do you know where sweden will be after the shift... as in what lattitude?
[09:58] <light332> zetatalk say rainforest
[09:58] <RNTHOMAS> THen use the food saver in the usual way to pull the air out and seal.
[09:58] <light332> equator
[09:59] <reticuli> well I guess you can dress lightly
[09:59] <reticuli> ;0
[09:59] <light332> if this really happens, wow...what an experience, I don't even have to survive, something to tell your astral friends about!
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[10:00] <reticuli> yeah, quick death would prolly be best
[10:00] <obany> reticuli: near the Equator for what i know reti
[10:00] <light332> yeah, I hope I have astral friends
[10:00] <reticuli> obany, what about seattle? I think it will be at about 20 degrees n lattitude, is that correct?
[10:01] <reticuli> light, im sure you do
[10:01] <obany> reticuli: i have no idea
[10:01] <light332> f**k, maybe I will so sadly regret all music that will be destroyed
[10:01] <RNTHOMAS> Sweattle is about 200 miles sound of the 49th parallel...
[10:01] <reticuli> the music of the spheres will be much better
[10:01] <reticuli> yes RN, it is now
[10:02] <reticuli> but after the shift was what I was asking
[10:02] <RNTHOMAS> Oh, ok, now I see where your going with this.
[10:02] <reticuli> where is that?
[10:02] <light332> music of the spheres?
[10:03] <reticuli> its what mystics report heaven sounds like I think
[10:04] <reticuli> do you know RN what the lattitude of our redion will be post shift?
[10:04] <reticuli> region
[10:04] <light332> the chakra spheres, we listen to them in Kriya Yoga
[10:04] <RNTHOMAS> No clue...  All I know is that Vancouver Island's goin north about 100 Mi...
[10:05] <RNTHOMAS> Where will the new pole be?
[10:05] <light332> the tinnitus sound scares the crap out of me when it grows to its terrifying ringingthunderbell quality
[10:05] <reticuli> damm, does that mean that I cant the ferry there!!!
[10:05] <reticuli> ;)
[10:05] <RNTHOMAS> 200 miles north, it'll be a bit of a sail...
[10:06] <reticuli> is there a link that shows the post shift rotation of earth?
[10:07] <RNTHOMAS> Dunno..  Haven't really looked...
[10:07] <reticuli> i cant find anything on that site, its horrid
[10:08] <RNTHOMAS> Do you mean the search engine on Zetatalk / TT?
[10:08] <reticuli> i just mean the website
[10:08] <reticuli> zetatalk
[10:08] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s98.htm
[10:09] <RNTHOMAS> Finally! someone that agrees with me!  It is a horrid search engine!
[10:09] <reticuli> hmmm, well I think india will be the south pole
[10:09] <obany> what you also can do .. is go trough www.google.com go to advanced search and fill in zetatal.com at the webiste you want to search in
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[10:10] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p10.htm
[10:10] <RNTHOMAS> And can I select ENGLISH so I don't get all the japanese / french / russian / . . . / ect pages...  I like it OB!  Thanks...
[10:10] <reti> thank you
[10:11] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p34.htm
[10:11] <reti> seattle should have a nice post shift climate
[10:12] <light332> All of this activity is modulated at first by the gloom cause by Volcanic Dust. During the hour of the shift, all volcanoes active now or dormant now will explode.
[10:13] <light332> we have old volcanos, erupting maybe million years ago, are they counte-d??
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[10:13] <reti> yeah, well thats a definite downside to living here, we have many active volcanoes here
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[10:14] <tex-at-work> hi all
[10:14] <QueenVee> hi tex
[10:14] <light332> barbecue........
[10:14] <reti> lol
[10:14] <tex-at-work> bbq is good
[10:15] <RNTHOMAS> That's what I'm thinking for Canada... BBQ!!!
[10:16] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p120.htm
[10:16] <RNTHOMAS> The equator is a little too hot for me...
[10:18] <light332> I cant figure how species from rainforest will survive to sweden
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[10:18] <light332> we have pines and birchs and pines and moss here
[10:20] <RNTHOMAS> Can you say cryprocaukus neosporums?
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[10:20] <reticuli> obany, when will you head up to sweden?
[10:20] <RNTHOMAS> Porbably bad spelling... I know with we get hot here, the rainforest starts making the above mold...
[10:20] <obany> reticuli: i want to go to Sweden but a friend of mine wants to go to Germany
[10:20] <RNTHOMAS> Kills the people and the animals...
[10:20] <obany> so a little tough now ..
[10:20] <obany> as i prefer Sweden
[10:21] <reticuli> yes, thats a better choice.... less people
[10:21] <RNTHOMAS> And it's a pretty terrible way to die...  We've lost quite a bit of pets to this mold...
[10:21] <RNTHOMAS> I caught it last summer.
[10:21] <reticuli> whats that RN?
[10:21] <RNTHOMAS> It's a mold spore...
[10:22] <RNTHOMAS> It grows inside you...  If you breath it in...
[10:22] <RNTHOMAS> Cryptocaukus Neosporums...
[10:22] <reticuli> it killed your pets?
[10:22] <light332> obany, stay with me :)
[10:22] <tex-at-work> that does not sound desireable RN
[10:23] <reticuli> you could catch a rave while you were up there obany?
[10:23] <RNTHOMAS> Yup, there's been about 45 reported cases... But this doesn't take into account the unreported deaths...
[10:23] <reticuli> what kind of pets?
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[10:23] <light332> rntthomas, so there will literally grow musrooms on yer nose.....
[10:23] <RNTHOMAS> A friend of mine out of Nanaimo, lost her ferrets....  Dogs , cats, humans all catch it.
[10:24] <ret_away> jesus
[10:24] <ret_away> bbl
[10:24] <light332> how do you cure it
[10:24] <RNTHOMAS> In the case of my friend in Nanaimo, the spoors took in the digestive track...
[10:25] <RNTHOMAS> Cut it off, and killed the ferret, upon initial examinination, the vet figured it was a cancer tumor till he
[10:25] <RNTHOMAS> had it analysised...
[10:25] <light332> what is a ferret
[10:25] <RNTHOMAS> Turned out to be MOLD, this cryptocaucus neosporums...
[10:25] <RNTHOMAS> It's like a mink...
[10:25] <light332> ok
[10:25] <tex-at-work> cryptococcus neoformans
[10:26] <RNTHOMAS> Thanks tex...
[10:26] <RNTHOMAS> I believe I caught it as well, I had the symptoms, cold that wouldn't leave...
[10:26] <RNTHOMAS> I heard about the infection on the island, so I re-programmed my Rife machine for crypto and ran it...
[10:27] <RNTHOMAS> My so called cold that I had for weeks was 'gone'...  But I cannot prove more then that...
[10:28] <RNTHOMAS> You farmilliar with Rife machines?
[10:28] <light332> no
[10:28] <RNTHOMAS> Here's some links...
[10:28] <RNTHOMAS> The program I used came from...
[10:29] <RNTHOMAS> www.electroherbalism.com    Click yes, select CAFL...
[10:29] <RNTHOMAS> For info about machines...
[10:29] <RNTHOMAS> www.rifetechnologies.com   
[10:29] <RNTHOMAS>    has a very interesting video that I purchased...  But shows a few pics of things being killed.
[10:30] <RNTHOMAS> www.rifeforum.com
[10:30] <RNTHOMAS>      Web based discussion board... Mostly done out of Germany....
[10:30] <RNTHOMAS>       They are the ones making all the advancements as it's not allowed in North America...
[10:30] <RNTHOMAS> www.rifetechnology.com
[10:31] <RNTHOMAS>             This is where I picked up my rife machine from...
[10:31] <RNTHOMAS> Most of what I'm showing here are the PLASMA devices... These use pulsed light at audio frequencies to
[10:31] <RNTHOMAS> cause resonance in the bug/parasite to kill it...
[10:32] <RNTHOMAS> NOTE:
[10:32] <RNTHOMAS> One must be careful in the case of cancer... If you use it, you go all out... If you pause the cancer can 'mutate' away from the existing frequency sets...
[10:33] <RNTHOMAS> I have noticed the 'possibility' that a Beck machine (the magnetic pulser) seems to de-stabalish cancer'
[10:33] <RNTHOMAS> s immunity from the Rife machine once it mutates, but my results are preliminary...
[10:33] <RNTHOMAS> The other rife machine is a PAD device, similar to how a TENS machine works...
[10:34] <RNTHOMAS> (there are many Yahoo groups about Rife Machines)
[10:34] <RNTHOMAS> Mr_Tracys_Corner I've found pretty excellent as well...
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[10:35] <light332> which machine did you buy
[10:35] <RNTHOMAS> PAD Devices work very similarly to a Hylda Clark Zapper, except most Hylda Clark marchines use single freq of...
[10:35] <QueenVee> yes, i'm here, longint
[10:36] <longint> Wow, ok... I'd prefer private :)
[10:36] <QueenVee> can anyone help me out? what's the two-letter abbreviation for the state of connecticut? is it CT?
[10:36] <RNTHOMAS> Rife pad devices can be tuned to any frequencies...
[10:36] <obany> hi logint
[10:36] <longint> Hi obany :)
[10:36] <tex-at-work> yes QV
[10:37] <RNTHOMAS> Does it have relevence in a pole shift - These can use low power and may work in place of antibiotics...
[10:37] <QueenVee> thanks tex!
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[10:38] <light332> yea, thx thomas
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[10:38] <tex-at-work> QV http://www.quincynet.com/analists/n1479.htm
[10:38] <RNTHOMAS> I guess I should stop now, I spewed out my blurb...  www.sharinghealth.com and www.sotainstruments.com shows the Beck Protocols...
[10:38] <RNTHOMAS> But magnetic pulsers don't cost $400 to build yourself...
[10:38] <RNTHOMAS> Welcome....
[10:39] <RNTHOMAS> BTW: No I am not a doctor... lol
[10:40] * tex-at-work back to work talk to everyone later
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[10:42] <QueenVee> tex: you are too good to me....
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[10:46] <QueenVee> Longint: please stop messaging me, or i'll kick you from the channel. i've answered your quesiton and there's an end to it
[10:46] <QueenVee> hello Bailey
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[10:46] <QueenVee> geesh
[10:47] <Bailey> hi guys
[10:47] <obany> what was his question about ... ??? and don't try to be so cruel againt longint ... queenvee .. it's not that he is one of te dbunkers or whwatever
[10:47] <QueenVee> Bailey: no, i don't post anywhere except under the name QueenVee
[10:48] <Bailey> ty,
[10:48] <QueenVee> obany: he wanted to submit a question for next week's zetatalk session....
[10:48] <QueenVee> wants zetas to provide "rules" that an STO society should follow
[10:48] <light332-away> haha!
[10:49] <QueenVee> i patiently explained that STOs do not do the right thing because of rules, but because it is the right thing to do
[10:49] <obany> already answerd for what i know
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[10:49] <QueenVee> he went on and on about the fact that humans are by nature lazy, and there must be rules if anything is to get done in the aftertime
[10:49] <Bailey> you mean like Bushes homeland security rules ? :o)
[10:49] <QueenVee> i patiently explained that service to other entities are not lazy by nature, that's why they're STO
[10:50] <light332-away> yeah, rules are for control
[10:50] <QueenVee> he went on and on and on about how i was wrong about that, that even STOs are lazy by nature
[10:50] <JurAFK> that's not quite tre
[10:50] <light332-away> rules sucks
[10:50] <QueenVee> i said i wouldn't accept the question
[10:50] <JurAFK> true, even
[10:50] <QueenVee> and he wouldn't let it go
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[10:51] <QueenVee> hi there humvee
[10:51] <JurAFK> I'm a bit lazy, but I love helping people if I can
[10:51] <humvee> good day QV
[10:51] <JurAFK> lazy does not make someone sts or sto
[10:51] <obany> i agree Jurian
[10:51] <QueenVee> Jur: the point is that even if they FEEL lazy, an STO entity will do what needs to be done
[10:51] <QueenVee> remember there are not that many truly STO people around
[10:51] <QueenVee> most are UNDECIDED
[10:51] <JurAFK> now THAT, is true :)
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[10:52] <JurAFK> I'll do what needs to be done, doesn't mean I always like doing it :)
[10:52] <QueenVee> the point is that it is not RULES that cause an STO person to do the right thing
[10:52] <QueenVee> hello Blinks -- what brings you to this room?
[10:52] <Blinks> H.I hi!
[10:52] <obany> it should be in his/her nature ...
[10:52] <Blinks> general interest in the Poleshift
[10:53] <JurAFK> no, but BASIC rules MIGHT help undecided people
[10:53] <QueenVee> blinks: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk? What part of the world do you live in?
[10:53] <Blinks> QueenVee: should I be elsewhere ? :P
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[10:53] <obany> but in an Service to Other community it's a different things ...
[10:53] <Blinks> QueenVee: can u hold on 1 second... brb
[10:53] <QueenVee> Jurian: that's what i suggested to him; that he really was looking for a set of rules that would apply to UNDECIDED people.... but he insisted NO, he wanted rules that owuld apply to STO people....
[10:53] <obany> things=thing
[10:54] <QueenVee> hello RJ -- what brings you to this room?
[10:54] <JurAFK> heh, there's really just one STO rule..: There are no rules
[10:54] <rj> just wondering what this channel is about
[10:54] <light332-away> Queenveee, you could add a poll on earthchanges, stating those questions of yours.
[10:54] <JurAFK> warm apple pie recipies
[10:55] <JurAFK> what else? :)
[10:55] <obany> here http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r05.htm
[10:55] <QueenVee> RJ: read the notice that greets you when you enter the room:
[10:55] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[10:55] <Blinks> back
[10:55] <obany> Jurian: apple pie i like it and so does antoher part of my body ;P
[10:55] <Blinks> I am in South Africa
[10:56] <QueenVee> thanks, obany, i wish i had that link when i was talking to him; i've bookmarked it should it come up again
[10:56] * JurAFK is now known as Jurian
[10:56] <obany> k Queen
[10:56] <QueenVee> blinks: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[10:57] <Bailey> obany is good at finding just the right link for the moment
[10:57] <Blinks> So QueenVee: about 1 month. But we all have to start somewhere
[10:57] <QueenVee> Blinks: agreed
[10:57] <QueenVee> blinks: www.zetatalk.com is the best place to start....
[10:57] <QueenVee> particularly the POLESHIFT and AFTERTIME sections
[10:57] <Blinks> Are u implying I should leave?
[10:58] <QueenVee> blinks: no, i'm telling you what the parameters of the room are; only you know if this is the right channel for you
[10:58] <light332-away> I think the best place to start is your heart
[10:59] <QueenVee> blinks: so that you will understand if we become impatient with basic questions....
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[11:00] <Blinks> I can't seem to find any information on South Africa
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[11:00] <Blinks> when the cataclysmic events take place..
[11:00] <QueenVee> blinks: hold on, i'll get it for you
[11:00] <QueenVee> hello hiena -- what brings you to this room?
[11:01] <QueenVee> hey JFull!
[11:01] <humvee> Hello JFull
[11:01] <JFull> Hi
[11:01] <JFull> got your mail
[11:01] <JFull> thanks
[11:01] <obany> sigh saphire again posting something from last year ... as that site clearly talks about 2001 and not about 2003 ... and now some are saying .. ooh well Nancy doesn't take it serious since she has a cottage for rent ...sigh
[11:02] <humvee> ok ditto
[11:02] <obany> it's from 2001 .. ... and those sci.astro guys talk about it as it's from 2003
[11:02] <JFull> same here humm
[11:03] <QueenVee> Hiena: ARE YOU THERE??
[11:03] * JFull is now known as JFullaway
[11:03] <QueenVee> Blinks: here is the section on South Africa. it is a good place to be: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx142.htm
[11:03] <Blinks> thank you
[11:04] <QueenVee> there's also a section of Capetown -- did you want that?
[11:04] <QueenVee> obany: re sapphire: that's really sad, that he has nothing new to say and has to start recycling material....
[11:04] <Blinks> QueenVee: no thanks. I am on the east cast
[11:05] <Blinks> casr = coast
[11:05] <QueenVee> blinks: there is another person who comes to this room who lives in south africa....
[11:05] <Blinks> oh okay.
[11:06] <Blinks> Can I ask a question. It may seem trivial though...
[11:06] <QueenVee> go ahead
[11:06] <obany> QueenVee: yes using what somebody posted on sci.astro from a 2001 newsleter where in Nancy has a cottage for rent,  but well he posted the adress on there ... aswell as her other emailadress ...
[11:06] <obany> here well more personal emailadress
[11:06] <QueenVee> obany: really pathetic
[11:06] <obany> as that emailadress was on that one link
[11:06] <obany> yes i know
[11:07] <Blinks> Given all the information... How can we be sure of the accuracy of the predictions. Have then been past predictions that have come true? I am unaware of any.
[11:07] <obany> but that's how sapphire is like
[11:07] <obany> strange guy and grasping for straws
[11:07] <Blinks> (not to say that they are wrong)
[11:08] <QueenVee> Blinks: yes, zetatalk has a high accuracy record (obany will supply the appropriate link for that)
[11:08] <QueenVee> Blinks: otherwise, we are not here to convince you or anyone else; you have to read the available material and evidence and decide for yourself
[11:08] <Blinks> thanks :P
[11:09] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword232.htm
[11:09] <obany> thnx queen :P
[11:09] <QueenVee> obany: apologies, i could have found that myself...
[11:09] <Blinks> ta
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[11:09] <QueenVee> hello Bhutt -- what brings you to this room?
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[11:10] <Blinks> But since the information is so imperative would you consider it right for us to tell others?
[11:10] <QueenVee> Blinks: read what's on the ZT site about telling others
[11:10] <QueenVee> it varies
[11:11] <QueenVee> Bhutt: are you there????
[11:11] <_Bhutt_01> what's this channel?
[11:11] <_Bhutt_01> yes.
[11:11] <QueenVee> Bhutt: 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[11:12] <QueenVee> Bhutt: i think you probably took a wrong turn
[11:13] <Bailey> blink, I tried getting people to study up on it, but got called nuts, now some of thoes same people are coming to me to ask questions
[11:13] <QueenVee> Bailey, expect more
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[11:13] <QueenVee> hey WC
[11:14] <West_coast> hi QV
[11:14] <Blinks> lol. humans always hate things contray to their common experience
[11:15] <QueenVee> did ya'll see what i posted on the website about train derailments in the last two weeks?
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[11:16] <West_coast> QV: I saw that...more signs
[11:16] <QueenVee> yep
[11:16] <Bailey> no queen, were there more than one?
[11:16] <QueenVee> yeah, check it out: www.shift2003.com
[11:17] <West_coast> QV: what is gif that is forever loading at shift2003?
[11:17] <humvee> Blinks: i tell others all the time - when they ask u questions back it made me read zt site until i could ans them
[11:17] <QueenVee> WC: dunno, but it doesn't seem to interfere with anything
[11:18] <West_coast> QV: so it isn't just my computer, I guess
[11:18] <humvee> blinks  also see www.shift2003,com
[11:19] <humvee> ops www.shift2003.com
[11:19] <Blinks> ta
[11:19] <Blinks> :P
[11:19] <Bailey> wo, that is a lot of train wrecks
[11:19] <humvee> :-)
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[11:20] <Blinks> Why for once can any intervening being give us good news. Its always bad - death and destruction. *sigh* .
[11:20] <QueenVee> Bailey: all but one is unexplained -- and that one was caused by a landslide caused by excessive rain and flooding in the UK....
[11:20] <QueenVee> Blinks: there is lots of good news in what the zetas have to tell us
[11:21] <QueenVee> hi karmie
[11:21] <karmie> hi queen
[11:21] <Blinks> QueenVee: sometimes I get so bogged down by everythi9ng thats bad, the little that is good in this world seems so small
[11:21] <Blinks> if not infitesmal so that i never notice it'
[11:22] <QueenVee> well, i thought you were talking about what the zetas have to tell us, not about "this world"....
[11:22] <Blinks> well what the zetas tell us is in essence inseparable from his world. They are interconnected
[11:23] <QueenVee> blinks: the good news is about what is to come, the world of the future, not "this world"....
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[11:23] <QueenVee> i agree there is little of good news in the current world
[11:23] <dell> hi everyone
[11:23] <QueenVee> hello dell
[11:23] <Bailey> i read so much of people dissing on others, sure would like to see in one place what they all do agree on
[11:23] <karmie> hi
[11:23] <obany> hi dell
[11:23] <QueenVee> dell: i've not seen you here before -- what brings you to this room?
[11:24] <obany> i think that he has been here before queen
[11:24] <dell> been here a few times this week ,
[11:24] <QueenVee> Bailey: that is the nature of a non-STO world -- everyone is in competition, so there is little that people can agree on
[11:24] * Blinks puts on "Whitney Houston - one moment in time" and sings along :P
[11:25] <QueenVee> dell: what part of the world do you live in, and how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[11:25] <dell> i am from south wales uk and been aware of zeta talk since febuary last year
[11:25] * obany will go now but return later
[11:26] <West_coast> will catch up with you all later..C U
[11:26] <Bailey> bye obany
[11:26] <dell> when it was given to me by a friend regarding the time thats abot to come for us all
[11:26] <QueenVee> south wales -- i spend some lovely time there, near a place called Mold....
[11:26] * Blinks feels yet a youngster in my knowledge of the Zetas
[11:26] <dell> thats north wales
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[11:26] <QueenVee> dell: oops, quite right
[11:26] <dell> lol
[11:27] <QueenVee> dell: never got to south wales, travelled into wales from Shrewsbury, i believe....
[11:27] <Blinks> *grin*
[11:27] <dell> theres bugger all in south wales, but shrewsbury is a nice place
[11:27] <Blinks> say... is there a
[11:27] <Blinks> fun channel on this server where I can not be so serious
[11:28] <QueenVee> dell: i was cycling Britain at the time, so my legs still remember the hills and mountains of north wales....
[11:28] <dell> as is mid wales where i lived for some years before comming to south wales
[11:28] <Bailey> LOL Queen
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[11:28] <QueenVee> Blinks: a fun channel? about the poleshift?
[11:28] <dell> yes , thats why we got all the hills in wales it all the land we took off the english , we are stock piling it lol
[11:29] <QueenVee> hello Jobe -- what brings you to this room?
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[11:29] <Jobe> Just curious, was directed here from www.shift2003.com
[11:29] <ret_away> try #poleshiftparty blinks
[11:29] <QueenVee> Jobe: take note:
[11:29] <Blinks> QueenVee: of course not. just like a "destress" channel. End of the world related chats - even though there is hope in the Zetas predictions - make me anxious
[11:29] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[11:30] <Jobe> Ok.
[11:30] <QueenVee> Blinks: sorry, can't help you out there. but don't feel you have to stay if this channel is not fun enough for you.
[11:30] <Blinks> ret_away: shoosh arent u away :P
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[11:30] <QueenVee> good god
[11:30] <Blinks> oops. sorry :)
[11:30] * ret_away is now known as DR
[11:31] * DR is now known as DR_Reticuli
[11:32] * Blinks sings "Give me one moment in time........................."
[11:32] <QueenVee> so, fiji islands hit by a cyclone...
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[11:32] <Blinks> QueenVee: I never realised hoe many disasters there were each day until i went to www.shift2003.com
[11:33] <Blinks> It is shocking
[11:33] <longint> re :)
[11:33] <Blinks> *sigh*
[11:33] <longint> Okay, I have it:
[11:33] <QueenVee> longint: i have a link for you
[11:33] <QueenVee> longint: the following section of zetatalk will explain why i think your question is inappropriate: http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r05.htm
[11:33] <Blinks> o my gwash I have anthony robbins on my playlist *wrech*
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[11:34] <QueenVee> hello ukuz
[11:34] <ukuz_zzz> hello
[11:34] <longint> Now I would ask the other's opinion about that.
[11:34] <longint> others'
[11:34] <DR_Reticuli> about what?
[11:34] <QueenVee> about what, longint?
[11:34] <QueenVee> mmmm 5.5 quakes in Pakistan and Iran today....
[11:35] <longint> about that Q if they would like to have it on agenda
[11:35] <DR_Reticuli> huh
[11:35] <DR_Reticuli> ?
[11:35] <QueenVee> well, let's have the question, then
[11:35] <longint> Thanks, QueenVee :)
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[11:35] <Blinks> QueenVee: It would be nice if we could compare current disasters to say 10 years ago... averages I mean.
[11:35] <longint> See ya!
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[11:35] <QueenVee> longint: i haven't accepted the question, i'm suggesting that you post it here now if you want others' opinions about it
[11:35] <Blinks> Know of any sites?
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[11:36] <QueenVee> longint: i've already told you that i'm not accepting the question you posed to me earlier; do you have a new version of it?
[11:36] <Jobe> Longint is gone.
[11:36] <QueenVee> what an idiot
[11:36] * Blinks studying to be a statistician, so facts are what I like :)
[11:36] <Bailey> longint, I am sure bush thinks he is STO with all his homeland security ruls, but not the kind of dictatorship I want to live under, if after time is going to be like that, count me out
[11:37] <QueenVee> Blinks: yes, it would be nice; why don't you volunteer to compile that information for us; it will be good practice for the kind of cooperative work that will be necessary in the aftertime....
[11:37] <Bailey> oh he left
[11:37] <Blinks> QueenVee: does your site have archives?
[11:37] <Blinks> it may take a couple of weeks... but I will see what I can do :)
[11:38] <QueenVee> Blinks: only to the end of November, when i started the site
[11:38] <QueenVee> that would be great blinks
[11:38] <DR_Reticuli> blinks, http://www.michaelmandeville.com/polarmotion/spinaxis/vortex_correlations2.htm
[11:38] <Blinks> thank me when its done. I havent doen anything yet :)
[11:38] <DR_Reticuli> some stats there
[11:38] <humvee> Blinks: to understand facts the study of logic is invaluable - most ppl use only feelings n what they already think so u confuse them with the facts
[11:39] <QueenVee> blinks: yes, the world is full of "it would be nice" good intentions
[11:39] <karmie> I have a question - is anyone "excited" about this challenge? or are all of us just dreading this?
[11:39] <QueenVee> karmie: i'm very excited about it -- as excited as i am scared
[11:39] <QueenVee> but that's the nature of most challenges
[11:40] <QueenVee> otherwise they wouldn't be challenges
[11:40] <Blinks> humvee: I am majoring in Mathematics and statistics so I am very much on the logic side of things. Only feelings and emotions get in the way too I guess. But thats what I love about humanity... reconciling 2 supposedly opposing forces. Personally I try to always bring feelings accountable to the school of reason.
[11:40] <humvee> karmie- wife n I cant wait as we love the barter system n helping ppl
[11:40] <karmie> true
[11:40] <Blinks> karmie: atm I am not overjoyed
[11:41] <Blinks> But I get anxious about what I eat. so i shall leave it at that :P
[11:41] <humvee> i m engineer blinks on the same page w/u
[11:41] <Bailey> I am comfortably numb, but ready to jump at the first oportunity for action
[11:41] <DR_Reticuli> blinks, did u read the link i sent
[11:41] <Blinks> humvee :)
[11:41] <humvee> i mean what u come up on re talking w/others abt unplesant info
[11:42] <Blinks> DR_Reticuli: busy :P
[11:42] <Blinks> sorry my mind is in several places at once
[11:42] <humvee> they dont want to be bothered
[11:42] <karmie> thanks all - I am excited and scared too - but think I will make it.
[11:42] <DR_Reticuli> well you wanted some stats
[11:42] <Blinks> thanks DR_Reticuli: much appreciated
[11:43] <QueenVee> karmie: you would not be normal if you weren't scared as well....
[11:43] <Blinks> I have bookmarked it to review when I am not so tired
[11:43] <humvee> 90% world die off next 2 years = stat
[11:43] <Blinks> It is rather too late to get into statistics :P
[11:43] <Jobe> I wonder when the analysis on the new images will come.
[11:43] <Blinks> just have a quick browse
[11:43] <DR_Reticuli> blinks, these are very simplistic charts
[11:44] <karmie> queen - I think when I finally make up my mind on a location - I will feel better.
[11:44] <QueenVee> karmie: yes, true
[11:44] <humvee> prediction as per zt
[11:44] <QueenVee> Jobe: shortly
[11:44] <humvee> off 2 work bye all
[11:44] <Blinks> yeah I know only they end at about 1998
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[11:44] <karmie> bye hum
[11:44] <Blinks> which leaves room for further comparison
[11:44] <Bailey> bye humvee
[11:45] <humvee> bye-bye
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[11:45] <QueenVee> blinks: you only have to look around you to see which predictions have come true within the last couple of years
[11:45] <QueenVee> Blinks: you will be in a better position to talk about ZetaTalk accuracy when you have actually thoroughly read the site
[11:46] <Blinks> I was planning my 21st party for the end of may - that kinda throws me out doesnt it
[11:46] <Blinks> QueenVee: theres a lot of information to cover
[11:46] <Jobe> Wow.. you've only had 20 parties up to now?
[11:46] <Jobe> ;)
[11:46] <Bailey> blinks, my daughter turns 21 this may too
[11:46] <DR_Reticuli> poor boy
[11:46] <Blinks> Jobe: as if. I am a student. I have had several
[11:46] <QueenVee> Blinks: that's right -- and that's why we restrict this chat room to those who have done the work
[11:47] <Blinks> QueenVee: part of our collective human experience is counsel from others - you cant get that from a website. I like to sift ideas through the school of reason, selecting that which is true
[11:48] <Blinks> And personally I don't believe this is an elitest situation - Its a world experience we're all in it.
[11:48] <QueenVee> Blinks: feel free to ask for counsel -- just try to restrict your opinions on material that you haven't actually read yet
[11:48] <DR_Reticuli> :)
[11:48] <QueenVee> because we're not interested, and have heard it all before
[11:49] <Blinks> QueenVee: remind me on what material this opinion was?
[11:49] <QueenVee> ZetaTalk accuracy
[11:49] <Blinks> I asked for counsel, but gave none if I remember correctly
[11:49] <QueenVee> remind us what counsel you asked for
[11:50] <Blinks> firstly it was: evidence of accuracy
[11:50] <Blinks> and secondly I said that some statistics would be invaluable
[11:50] <Blinks> in support thereof
[11:50] <Blinks> that was all.
[11:51] <QueenVee> Blinks: ONE MORE TIME: WE ARE NOT HEAR TO PROVIDE YOU WITH PROOF. WE ALL RELY ON THE MATERIAL THAT IS ON THE ZETATALK WEBSITE. LOOK THERE FOR YOUR PROOF. ONCE YOU ARE REASONABLY CONVINCED THAT THERE WILL BE A POLESHIFT IN MAY2003, COME BACK HERE TO DISCUSS PREPARATION.
[11:51] <QueenVee> OKAY?
[11:51] <Blinks> right.
[11:51] <QueenVee> AND IF YOU DON'T FIND THE PROOF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR -- JUST FORGET ABOUT IT
[11:51] <QueenVee> OKAY?
[11:51] <Blinks> please lose the caps.
[11:52] <QueenVee> PLEASE GET OUT OF MY CHAT ROOM
[11:52] * Blinks was kicked by QueenVee (Blinks)
[11:53] <DR_Reticuli> lol
[11:53] <DR_Reticuli> he was high maintenence
[11:53] <QueenVee> wow, have you guys seen this: http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/news/011403/Local/ST007.shtml
[11:53] <QueenVee> ret: indeed
[11:53] <Jobe> Guess he won't get those stats for you ;)
[11:54] <QueenVee> guess not, i'm not here to do anyone's homework for them
[11:54] <QueenVee> nor am i here to convince anyone that there is going to be a poleshift
[11:54] <karmie> queen - hope I re-locate near you - you know how to take care of business!
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[11:54] <QueenVee> karmie: LOL
[11:55] <QueenVee> blinks:
[11:55] <QueenVee> you should at least have the courage of your convinctions
[11:55] <QueenVee> why message that to me privately?
[11:55] <QueenVee> Blinks* Its people like you that make a collective human experience impossible. If the Zetas are trying to save a race such as ours with people like you, then I am quick to ask why bother. You are a disgrace to an inquiring mind.
[11:55] <DR_Reticuli> whhaaaaaaaaaa
[11:55] <QueenVee> Blinks: i tried to discourage you from coming to this chatroom, but you wouldn't listen -- and now you complain
[11:55] <QueenVee> oh, he's gone
[11:56] <BoY> that is odd news
[11:56] <QueenVee> coward
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[11:56] <Jobe> Leo?
[11:56] <DR_Reticuli> my god, a celebrity!!!
[11:56] <QueenVee> what fresh hell is this?
[11:56] <QueenVee> hello Caprio -- what brings you to this room?
[11:57] <QueenVee> Caprio: ARE YOU THERE???
[11:57] <Jobe> Slow typer maybe ;)
[11:57] <DR_Reticuli> those stars, always so aloof
[11:58] <Bailey> yes Queen, I will remember the word coward, sound so much better than wimpy ass fagot, I get in trouble for that one
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[11:58] <DR_Reticuli> wb
[11:58] <QueenVee> Blinks: why are you here?
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[11:59] <DR_Reticuli> my god!!! you kicked a star
[11:59] <DR_Reticuli> lol
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[11:59] <Jobe> He'll send his agent after you.
[11:59] <Jobe> ;)
[11:59] <QueenVee> bye blinks
[11:59] <QueenVee> you just bought yourself a ban in addition to a kick
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[11:59] <QueenVee> lol
[12:00] <QueenVee> back to that Florida story -- sounds like more of the "earth noises" that ZT was predicting....
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[12:01] <DR_Reticuli> ?
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[12:01] <BoY> it sures is a strange phenomena
[12:03] <Bailey> I have been getting lots of practace rationing water, I can take a full hygenic bathing, wash hair and shave legs with about one quart of water
[12:04] <DR_Reticuli> you must be single
[12:04] <QueenVee> Bailey: congrats. i don't think you'll care so much about shaving your legs in the aftertime....
[12:04] <QueenVee> so you can probably cut down to two cups
[12:04] <QueenVee> lol
[12:04] <Bailey> yes, but who wants to stay single besides you lol
[12:05] <QueenVee> Bailey: by the way, do you know that the singer Shania Twain grew up very poor and had to conserve water? She says she used to bath with a few cups of water as well, and still does because she can't break the habit....
[12:07] <BoY> my friend 83  flips when i wash dishes , he comes over & puts trickle on
[12:07] <Bailey> you mix a small amount of shampoe with water and wet your hair with that, add a few drops of water, squeese it out and so on, use to wash rags, one for risne and one for soap, save your soapy water to washout underwere, and save rinse water to rense them
[12:07] <BoY> i like flowing water
[12:08] <BoY> took out all flow restictors
[12:08] <BoY> i say it's a blue planet
[12:09] <Bailey> this blue planet is blue ice where I am
[12:13] <Bailey> doing dishes is a problem when rationing water
[12:14] <Jobe> Use paper plates.
[12:15] <Bailey> it is hard to get by on just two quarts of drinking and cooking purified water
[12:15] <BoY> ice gives off a special vibrational energy balance when it transforms into water
[12:15] <Bailey> per day for one
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[12:17] <Bailey> clothing, sheets, towls and blankets freshen nicely when hung out side
[12:19] <Bailey> my waist system is set up so that water in not reuired for flushing
[12:20] <JFull> what system you using?
[12:20] <Bailey> a do it yourself system, LOL
[12:20] <Bailey> shhhh
[12:20] <Buente> what are your plans after the shift to help you neighbours or friends?
[12:20] <karmie> gotta go do chores - see you guys later - thanks
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[12:20] <JFull> a ddp hole?
[12:21] <JFull> deep
[12:21] <Buente> that will help?
[12:21] <Bailey> not too deep, you will contaminate ground water
[12:22] <JFull> and be able to get out in case of slip!!!
[12:23] <Jobe> heh
[12:23] <Bailey> buenet, I think j was talking about a sewer not graves LOL
[12:23] <JFull> we had those in 30's
[12:23] <JFull> 2 holer
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[12:24] <JFull> used quick lime to de oderize
[12:25] <Bailey> dirt works fine, save the lime for the garden
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[12:25] <JFull> need to save it all now for garden
[12:25] <JFull> or compost
[12:26] <Bailey> human dung makes better fuel than fertiliser
[12:26] <JFull> new to me--
[12:26] <JFull> not enough fiber is there?
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[12:27] <Bailey> from what I have read, human dung does not make good compost
[12:27] <Bailey> for the garden
[12:27] <JFull> ok take your word
[12:28] <JFull> have  to kill the pathicagins
[12:30] <Bailey> charcoal is good for many things, parisites, poisoning etc, easy to come by too, everyone should read up on it
[12:30] <JFull> read on recient post that filtering water with cloth will reduce colria
[12:30] <JFull> even the cloth we use for clothing
[12:31] <JFull> how many know how to make charcoal
[12:32] <Bailey> oxygenating water helps too, pour the water from one container to another repeatedly helps also,
[12:32] <Buente> when is the best time to evacuate when living in holladn?
[12:32] <Buente> holladn
[12:32] <Buente> holland
[12:32] <JFull> true
[12:32] <Bailey> vegtable charcoal is most often used
[12:32] <JFull> new to me
[12:32] <BoY> oxygenating water is natures way ..very good idea
[12:33] <Buente> hello? when is best time to evacuate?
[12:33] <JFull> veg char??
[12:34] <JFull> Basic water filtration can be effective for some water borne
[12:34] <JFull> illnesses. Should we ever find ourselves without filters or supplies,
[12:34] <JFull> and only the clothes on our backs, it does pay to do whatever we can.
[12:34] <JFull> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2640307.stm
[12:35] <JFull> buente: how far you have to go
[12:35] <Bailey> burn a tator, carrot etc and poweder it, mix 1 tspoon in glass of water and drink for poisoning or parisited, to put is simple
[12:35] <Buente> i live in holland
[12:35] <Buente> so to swiss or something
[12:35] <Buente> not far
[12:36] <JFull> have you check ZTalk?
[12:36] <Spiff> Buente have you read the safe loc?
[12:37] <Buente> not for my country no
[12:37] <Buente> i shall look
[12:38] <Spiff> JFull where is your loc?
[12:38] <JFull> FL
[12:38] <Spiff> Florida?
[12:39] <Bailey> survival will be such an issue, who will take care of the dead, yuck
[12:39] <JFull> going to MN
[12:39] <Spiff> MN?
[12:39] <Jobe> Minnesota
[12:39] <Bailey> i could not handle dead things
[12:39] <Spiff> Great
[12:39] <JFull> yes
[12:39] <Spiff> I was in Minnessota for 1 month ago
[12:40] <Spiff> Twin/Citys
[12:40] <JFull> born in MN
[12:40] <Spiff> Super
[12:40] <Spiff> I guess a little bit colder than FL at least right now!
[12:41] <JFull> rolling country in s.e., like cent Wis
[12:42] <BoY> what about north
[12:42] <JFull> warmer aft PS
[12:42] <obany> Buente: well on time Buente ... ... not to late
[12:42] <Spiff> Like my loc much wamer later on....
[12:42] <Buente> ah thx obany
[12:42] <JFull> where
[12:42] <Bailey> they say it does not take much fuel to bund the dead, the fat acts as an excelerator
[12:43] <Bailey> burn
[12:44] <DR_Reticuli> the ash will make an excellent fertilizer
[12:44] <Bailey> ashes to ashes, dust to dust
[12:44] <Spiff> JFull: near Polarcircle Sweden close to the motain range in Norway.
[12:44] <Spiff> "Mountain"
[12:44] <JFull> great
[12:45] <JFull> dees heading there also
[12:46] <Spiff> Super where about
[12:46] <Spiff> ?
[12:47] <JFull> ?
[12:47] <obany> seems like a lot of people heading to Sweden ...  :)
[12:47] <Spiff> a lot of space at least
[12:48] <Spiff> :-)
[12:48] <JFull> not as many listed on QV locations as I thougth or arent saying
[12:48] <DR_Reticuli> sweden should enjoy a spike in its tourism economy in mid may
[12:48] <obany> JFull: not everyone is into telling where they will head too
[12:48] <Spiff> JFull do you know where Dees moving?
[12:49] <DR_Reticuli> some one should sell poleshift travel packages
[12:49] <JFull> don't remember
[12:49] <JFull> ya got a specoal rate?
[12:49] <JFull> special
[12:49] <DR_Reticuli> for you, yes
[12:49] <DR_Reticuli> lol
[12:50] <Bailey> these fancy water filters will not work with out power and water pressure, good to have alternatives
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[13:01] <Spiff> Buy friends see you later
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[13:05] <DR_Reticuli> you can never buy a true freind
[13:05] <Jobe> heh
[13:05] <Bailey> you can't even give birth to a true friend
[13:06] <Jobe> Anyone frequent sci.astro?
[13:06] <obany> i visit and read it, but what's your point?
[13:06] <Bailey> I never go there, I hear enough about it in here
[13:06] <Jobe> Just wondering.
[13:08] <DR_Reticuli> never been there, scientist and their competetitiveness bore me
[13:08] <Bailey> me too dr
[13:10] <DR_Reticuli> im not a real Dr. I just play on in IRC
[13:11] <Bailey> I have had enough of researching all the spiritual aspects of things also, opinions are like ***, we all have one, I want to see the proof
[13:11] <Bailey> LOL Dr
[13:13] <DR_Reticuli> proof is never so cut and dry
[13:13] <Bailey> have you heard of the spoon bending prayer group?
[13:13] <DR_Reticuli> no
[13:14] <tied2> Bailey you shall see proof soon :-)
[13:14] <JFull> I want to see proof also, but zt pred is enouth to put a lump in your throat
[13:14] <Bailey> how old are doc
[13:14] <DR_Reticuli> 32
[13:15] <Bailey> kool, so many kids come in here, I worry about info overload for them
[13:15] <DR_Reticuli> and you?
[13:15] <Bailey> 42
[13:15] <Bailey> female
[13:16] <DR_Reticuli> male / un-neutered
[13:16] <Bailey> <<< nutered LOL
[13:16] <DR_Reticuli> ;)
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[13:19] <QueenVee> Jobe: why were you asking about sci.astro?
[13:19] <Jobe> I was just wondering if people here go there.
[13:19] <QueenVee> nah, no point really
[13:19] <QueenVee> just a lot of insults going back and forth
[13:20] <Jobe> True
[13:20] <QueenVee> reticuli: have you been playing doctor again?
[13:21] <obany> well i visit it, but well it's mostly name calling  etc  ...
[13:21] <reticuli> lol
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[13:24] <Bailey> LOL queen
[13:29] <QueenVee> Bailey: what are you laughing at?
[13:30] <QueenVee> those of you who are subscribed to the TT-forums, check out my resopnse to a debunker posting: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/12199
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[13:31] <QueenVee> hello steve
[13:31] <steve> hello
[13:31] <obany> hi steve
[13:31] <steve> hi obany
[13:31] <QueenVee> how are things in Missouri?
[13:32] <Jobe> Queen: It advertises a cottage in North Freedom Wi.
[13:32] <steve> I'm in Ny
[13:33] <Jobe> Though it is an old post.
[13:33] <reticuli> someones moving in with nancy?
[13:33] <QueenVee> Jobe: whoops -- wrong link, hold on....
[13:33] <Jobe> from march/april 2001
[13:34] <QueenVee> there http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/12199
[13:34] <Jobe> That's the same one.
[13:34] <obany> so fucking what jobe, it's from 2001 .... it's 2003 now
[13:35] <QueenVee> whoops, yeah, you're right, it's Wisconsin, not California..... still, from 2001
[13:35] <Jobe> But the phone works.. I should know I posted it.
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[13:35] <Loitus> lol
[13:35] <Loitus> CYA
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[13:35] <Bailey> queen, i was laughing at your playing dr comment
[13:35] <obany> loitus: was the one who made that stupid comment
[13:35] <obany> on sci.astro
[13:37] <obany> ddin't know that was loitus
[13:38] <QueenVee> what on earth is the matter with these people?
[13:38] <obany> grasping on straws i think
[13:38] <obany> attack the messenger
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[13:42] <Ogmios> hi
[13:42] <reticuli> hi
[13:42] <steve> hi
[13:42] <QueenVee> steve: i wonder if you could please change your nick in future to steveNY or some-such, as we already have a member here who goes by the name of Steve, who lives in Missouri.... do you know hw to do that?
[13:43] <steve> ok
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[13:44] <steveny> is that better
[13:44] <QueenVee> thanks steve!
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[13:44] <QueenVee> steveny: have you been here  before?
[13:44] <steveny> no
[13:44] <QueenVee> steveny: so what brings you to this room?
[13:45] <steveny> i've been checking out the web site for a couple of years thought i'd tune in
[13:45] <QueenVee> what are you doing to prepare for the poleshift? are you relocating?
[13:46] <steveny> Im 6o miles nw of nyc ive got a place in the mountains
[13:47] <Bailey> does anyone here know what the body temp is for a zeta? it is not a stupid question
[13:47] <QueenVee> Bailey: yes it is
[13:47] <Bailey> is not
[13:47] <QueenVee> why on earth would you want to know that?
[13:47] <obany> why is that so important??
[13:48] <Bailey> i have my reasons, many people going through what they are calling a transformation are experiencing a inrease in body temp, could it be genetic manipulation
[13:49] <obany> is there a special reason to know this baily
[13:49] <QueenVee> i think their temperature is likely to be lower than hours, hot higher....
[13:50] <QueenVee> let me try that again: i think their temperature is likely to be lower than ours, not higher
[13:50] <tied2> what do yo base that on?
[13:50] <QueenVee> hold on...
[13:50] <Bailey> listening, watching, reading
[13:50] <Bailey> asking
[13:51] <JFull> CYA BYE bye
[13:51] <tied2> it issaid that PEOPLE who have lower body temps usualy have a higher IQ
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[13:53] <steveny> gotta go be back later
[13:53] <Bailey> bye steve
[13:53] <obany> okay brb too
[13:53] <QueenVee> sorry, had to get the phone...
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[13:54] <QueenVee> tied2: i base that on their skin colour....
[13:54] <tied2> they look kewl? lol
[13:55] <QueenVee> i believe they have also said that they have more reptile genes than we do....
[13:55] <QueenVee> and reptiles are cold-blooded creatures...
[13:55] <Bailey> these people experiencing an increase in body temp are also excreeting unusual body odor
[13:55] <QueenVee> but, obviously, there's nothing to firmly base either supposition on
[13:55] <QueenVee> Bailey: yeah, i'm experiencing that too; but i thought it was menopause....
[13:56] <tied2> well cold blooded means that there blood temp adjusts to it's surroundings
[13:56] <Bailey> queen, these people are too young to be going through menopause
[13:57] <tied2> metabolism will effect temp also
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[13:57] <tied2> I know thats true cause I saw it on TV :-)
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[13:58] <Bailey> nancy has repeatedly stated the zeta are not responsible for new germs, like aids etc, but admits to genetic manipulation
[13:59] <QueenVee> Bailey: yes, but she also says that such manipulation is primarily in very young people, and that it is almost undetectable
[13:59] <Bailey> almost?
[14:04] <Bailey> I should go try to eat today, see you guys later
[14:04] <QueenVee> bye bailey
[14:05] <Bailey> don't let them get you down queen, thanks for all your efforts
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[14:09] <Dsarith> Hi all
[14:09] <Dsarith> Hi QV :-)
[14:10] <QueenVee> hi dsarith
[14:10] <Dsarith> How have you been
[14:12] <QueenVee> i'm tired today.... trying to catch up on work.....
[14:12] <Dsarith> Yip... I am just coming down from having the flu
[14:12] <Dsarith> Hate it!
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[14:30] <obany> queeenvee: wrong again
[14:31] <QueenVee> ?
[14:32] <obany> you are talking about very young people, what do you mean by that?
[14:33] <obany> as  http://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h30.htm  http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v52.htm
[14:33] <QueenVee> i was working from memory....
[14:33] <obany> ok ok
[14:34] <QueenVee> yeah, that's the link that i was referring to....
[14:35] <QueenVee> To all intents and purposes the children born prior to the 1990's looked and acted 100% human, slight changes to their digestive, circulatory, or nervous systems not enough for their parents or doctors to even take note of.
[14:35] <obany> yes, but does that make them very young
[14:35] <obany> that started around the 50
[14:35] <obany> 's
[14:35] <QueenVee> i.e. those children (now adults) would not be experiencing something as dramatic as a temperature changes....
[14:36] <QueenVee> only those born later....
[14:36] <QueenVee> would have discernable changes to their motabolism
[14:36] <QueenVee> that's how i read that
[14:38] &