Session Start: Wed Jan 15 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <islander> check th sightings page out to see the images so far, planet may be small but the tails may be showing
[00:00] <Richard> go to http://www.zetatalk.com and click on "plantX Sightings" link
[00:01] <islander> http://zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[00:01] <Richard> last confimed sighting was December 27/28th
[00:01] <Richard> Jan 10th is being studied
[00:01] <islander> what do you think of those images?
[00:02] <walt> I think they better get better real quick
[00:02] <Richard> the images don't concern me. Personally I 'feel' it.
[00:03] <islander> I think the problem is more of focus, try to laocate and focus on an object by gues, sort of like trying to get an image of a nebula
[00:03] <islander> pardon the typing
[00:04] <walt> astronomers can get shots of thing 100x further out
[00:04] <islander> you can see stars in front or behind but the depth of field is difficult
[00:04] <pacha> everytime a go to zetatalk I get the sh-- scared outta me then i relax and do nothing I know the earth is acting up but I guess I want more I want to know for sure and I don't so i don't act
[00:05] <Richard> understand pacha
[00:05] <walt> and them boys over in Sci.astro are eating this up
[00:05] <islander> lots doing the same waiting for more confirmation
[00:05] <Richard> but remember there are only 3 - 4 months left
[00:05] <walt> 121 days
[00:05] <Richard> it doesn't hurt to prepare
[00:06] <islander> waiting until solid proof is there will be too late to prepare
[00:06] <walt> long as it doesnt bankrupt you
[00:06] <islander> at least you can go through all the planning and details preparation, that doesn't cost
[00:06] <Richard> already nearly am here so nothing to lose
[00:07] <walt> because of this??
[00:07] <pacha> i know yes buy year supply of food survival stuff but move buy land in Utah because that is close to me and build a small dome is another thing
[00:07] <Richard> and survival skills will always be handy somewhere in your life
[00:07] <Richard> no happening before planetx
[00:07] <walt> k
[00:07] <Jurian> it never hurts to have skills :)
[00:07] <walt> no it doesnt
[00:08] <islander> if you were to take this in a practical sense, the right preparations and plans would lead to some life improvements anyways
[00:08] <Richard> pacha at the extreme you can head into the hills
[00:08] <pacha> had some big winds here but not 200 mph I am in a bad spot for earth movement
[00:08] <Richard> but you will need survival skills bigtime
[00:08] <walt> those are what I call "fall back" skill
[00:08] <Richard> you in usa?
[00:08] <walt> soap making, candle making, blacksmithing
[00:08] <walt> I am
[00:09] <islander> canada
[00:09] <pacha> i am in the hill about 3200 feet in the sierras a bad spot
[00:09] <Richard> and when you have no money fall back skills & faith will have to suffice
[00:09] <walt> small livestock raising
[00:09] <walt> gardening
[00:09] <islander> and do it yourself anything else
[00:09] <walt> skill that arent needed now adays
[00:09] <Richard> have a half acre garden where we grow lots of our food
[00:10] <Richard> so versed in gardening
[00:10] <walt> Ive got an acre garden
[00:10] <Richard> i'm in new zealand pacha
[00:10] <Richard> have one hydroponic unit
[00:10] <walt> old time knowledge
[00:10] <Richard> really need a few more ... or larger ones
[00:10] <islander> it is interesting that this should happen when the old skills are becoming lost at an alarming rate
[00:10] <walt> well digging
[00:11] <walt> barn contruction
[00:11] <Richard> very true islander
[00:11] <pacha> those things are easy really its the big step of moving to so called safe spots I hate that to be 100% committed and still have doubts
[00:11] <walt> not as easy as you think
[00:11] <Richard> know anyone in other parts of usa pacha?
[00:11] <Richard> shift2003 has a networking page
[00:11] <walt> bet many in this chat havent butchered there own meat
[00:12] <Richard> i worked on farms for 17 years
[00:12] <islander> or learned how to drain or age it
[00:12] <walt> starting with the killing
[00:12] <pacha> yes but no one i can talk to ...guess i need to feel the earth shake me up off my ---
[00:12] <Richard> you employed?
[00:13] <Richard> holidays owing?
[00:13] <Richard> take your holiday leave
[00:13] <walt> I get alot of my skills from my hobbies
[00:13] <Richard> head inland
[00:13] <walt> Mt Man/Medieval re enactment
[00:13] <Richard> if it doesn't happen you had a holiday
[00:14] <Richard> if it does you might survive
[00:14] <islander> i've acquired a lot of new hobbies in the last year
[00:14] <walt> or not
[00:14] <Richard> we are all in the same boat
[00:14] <pacha> be forced to survive from hunger is what I worry about ...meaning the hordes of people in the cities finding you  not a fun thing to look to
[00:15] <Richard> if you believe in reincarnation then no worries
[00:15] <Richard> will get another chance
[00:15] <islander> start with planning a staple diet that you can afford and will keep you alive
[00:15] <Richard> pacha I don't think there will be hordes
[00:16] <pacha> wow yes to be at peace  great thing I have a family and like to do my best for them
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[00:16] <Guestwandersoul> hello
[00:16] <pacha> hello there
[00:16] <Richard> i'm 40 diabetic wife, 3 children, 1st grandchild now in the world
[00:17] <Richard> oops i'm older than that ...49
[00:17] <pacha> hehe only numbers
[00:17] <Guestwandersoul> on the troubled times site it said half the earth will lose its atmospher. any guesses on wich half?
[00:17] <Richard> top half I hope
[00:17] <walt> bottom half I hope
[00:17] <walt> : )
[00:17] <islander> no locations, near volcanoes is highest possibility
[00:17] <pacha> hows your luck humm top half hehe funny guy
[00:18] <Richard> ~:+)
[00:18] <Guestwandersoul> so ya flip and hope ya win the coin toss or earth toss rather hehe
[00:19] <walt> life is a crap shoot, "you rolls your dices, and pays your money"
[00:19] <Guestwandersoul> hmm I have bad luck so run from the US now my luck is realy bad
[00:19] <pacha> wondering---- a mask and oxygen would be a good idea
[00:20] <pacha> in thast case if you gop I stay
[00:20] <Guestwandersoul> it said any where from hours to days with out air thats a pretty big ox tank
[00:20] <walt> why does it say its going to lose the atmosphere?
[00:20] <pacha> typed to fast sorry
[00:20] <Richard> read one guys survival tip for the passing
[00:20] <Richard> cradh helmut and strapped into seat like astronaut
[00:21] <islander> or a closed shelter until fresh breezes blow in, the atmosphere will decrease in height I believe
[00:21] <Richard> it will have some atmosphere stripped away from burning
[00:21] <Guestwandersoul> yuk
[00:21] <Richard> what is in the tail will ignite with oxygen
[00:21] <Guestwandersoul> hope its not my half
[00:21] <Richard> that's wh they say stay close to the ground
[00:22] <islander> hydrocarbons
[00:22] <Richard> not just from rocking & rolling from earth movemnt
[00:22] <Richard> fire
[00:22] <Guestwandersoul> I live almost next to a nuke plant hope it is quake proof
[00:22] <Richard> we don't just get the kitchen sink thrown at us
[00:22] <Richard> the house as well
[00:23] <islander> and in some parts, the mountain next door
[00:23] <Richard> gonna be some event
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[00:24] <Richard> have any of you looked on troubled times site and read the various histories of past civilisations?
[00:25] <Richard> their disappearance dates are the interesting factor or emergence dates
[00:25] <walt> guest get some Potassium Iodate
[00:25] <walt> http://www.baproducts.com/ki.htm
[00:25] <pacha> how would one use that
[00:26] <walt> that site explains
[00:26] <pacha> ok
[00:26] <Richard> is that iodine basically
[00:26] <walt> anyone near a nuke plant should have some handy
[00:26] <islander> it is too bad that the recent findings can't be accelerated to get some further proof
[00:26] <walt> its a thyroid blocking agent
[00:26] <Richard> better yet don't hang around a nuke site
[00:27] <islander> such as all the recent findings in China
[00:27] <Richard> I agree islander
[00:27] <Richard> there are odd discovies currently happening and maybe a little to late
[00:27] <pacha> like what?
[00:27] <islander> I was really interesting in the pottery civilization they found this year
[00:28] <Richard> read today they found an inscription regarding 1st Temple in Jeruseluem
[00:28] <islander> the best one was the discovery of undated iron pipes in a cave and lake in China, with no records or myths
[00:28] <Richard> confirms it was built by the jews
[00:29] <Richard> saw that article also islander
[00:29] <islander> i'm waiting for a followup on that, but like all studies, probably next year
[00:29] <walt> I will wait for further confirmation
[00:29] <islander> whoops, too late?
[00:29] <walt> remember the burial box they found
[00:30] <islander> in a private collection
[00:30] <islander> I wonder how much more of our history is being held in Private Collections
[00:30] <walt> i bet quiet a lot
[00:31] <Richard> a lot for sure
[00:31] <walt> Ide like to get a peek in the catacombs under the vatican
[00:31] <Richard> why is Switzerland racing for the America's Cup when they are landlocked
[00:31] <Richard> maybe they know they will be island after the shift surrounded by sea
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[00:32] <Richard> hi
[00:32] <islander> I ran across a collection listing Etruscan and Sumerian artifacts which stated most were in private collections and only about 10% were translated
[00:32] <IaNZ> Hi
[00:32] <Richard> we are discussing lost treasures/civilisations
[00:33] <Richard> well trying to
[00:33] <islander> not even the scholars are getting access to this stuff
[00:33] <Richard> :+)
[00:33] <pacha> till next time wife callig take care all
[00:33] <IaNZ> Egypt interests me.. pyramids etc completely uexplained in my opinion.
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[00:34] <Richard> you know the maori people of new zealand have only recently let outsiders know of their prophecies
[00:34] <islander> Pyramids everywhere and the designs match in several countries
[00:35] <islander> similarities between Aztec and Chinese
[00:35] <IaNZ> Unless you invoke unknown technology.  Could not be built today even..
[00:35] <Richard> pyramids in china made from soil and pine trees are planted on them (to disguise?)
[00:35] <islander> or the result of previous catastrophe
[00:36] <Richard> levitation for pyramid building I think Ian
[00:36] <IaNZ> WHAT  do you know of maori prophesy Rich?
[00:36] <Richard> tibetens have a pipe when blown has a pitch that can raise objects
[00:36] <IaNZ> Yes.. and the inca building.
[00:36] <Richard> more pipe players higher the object can be lifted
[00:37] <Richard> ian: I will send you some links for maori prohecy I found
[00:37] <islander> I noted that some wall formations are being found in NZ, have you seen any of that
[00:37] <Richard> they are reverved next to Hopi Indian for spiritual prohecy
[00:37] <IaNZ> Someone said Taupo would overflow... not good for Hamilton
[00:38] <Richard> yes there is a wall near the Buried Village in Rotorua
[00:38] <IaNZ> They seem to be talking about end times soon.
[00:38] <Richard> the maori .....yes
[00:38] <IaNZ> But I dont know the detail.
[00:39] <Richard> one of the prophecies I read said when the great dam in china breaks
[00:39] <Richard> (Three Gorges)
[00:39] <Richard> apparently thousands of toms of logs are above the 3 Gorges being stored
[00:40] <IaNZ> They tend to be into fundamentalist christianity tho
[00:40] <Richard> the 3 Gorges is due for completion THIS year
[00:40] <Richard> I think it is the maori elders who have the prophecies
[00:41] <IaNZ> Chinese engineering would be a worry...
[00:41] <Richard> fundamentalists I think are only a section of plus the urban maori
[00:42] <Richard> I'll find that link
[00:42] <Richard> brb
[00:42] <IaNZ> The maori are very into spiritualism... I guess because it is real to them..more common
[00:43] <IaNZ> Must be late for everone else..except Aussies.
[00:44] <walt> its about 1 am here
[00:44] <islander> some of us are still here.. listening
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[00:45] <IaNZ> 9.30pm here
[00:45] <IaNZ> Are you on a boat Aaaa?
[00:45] <Richard> Ian: I'll have to send link in an email. Can't find the link to it at present
[00:45] <IaNZ> No worry... we'll talk soon..
[00:46] <Aaaaa> yes
[00:46] <Aaaaa> howd you know?
[00:46] <IaNZ> I'm happy to find another zeta crazy in NZ, independent of me:-)
[00:47] <IaNZ> Your e mail name.  
[00:47] <Aaaaa> ok!
[00:47] <IaNZ> I'm workng on two sailboats right now.  To get them on the water..
[00:48] <Aaaaa> just got mine in last year
[00:48] <IaNZ> One 23footer..day sailer.. and a 12ft dingy.
[00:49] <Aaaaa> one 44', digy also12'
[00:49] <Aaaaa> dinghy
[00:49] <IaNZ> And where are u based now
[00:51] <Aaaaa> Columbia River near Portland Oregon USA
[00:51] <IaNZ> Cold!
[00:51] <islander> g'nite all
[00:51] <Aaaaa> yup!
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[00:52] <Aaaaa> you gonna get any sailing in before the shift?
[00:52] <Richard> Ian: go here
[00:52] <IaNZ> Sail down here.. via Samoa and Fiji...
[00:53] <Aaaaa> would love too!
[00:53] <Richard> http://www.wovoca/prophecy-maori-index.htm
[00:54] <Richard> sorry it took so lonf. The site hasa stupid banner moving along the bottom and it slows everything down
[00:55] <IaNZ> Thanks..I hate graphics..bogs my old computer down heaps
[00:55] <Richard> my computer getting pretty old/slow itself
[00:55] <IaNZ> Love Zetatalk for that reason... fast and simple.
[00:56] <Richard> however its outlasted all the other top computers others around me have bought
[00:56] <IaNZ> I'm on my wifes laptop... mine wont do IRC..
[00:56] <Richard> so if it works don't touch it
[00:56] <Richard> :+)
[00:57] <Richard> you noticing an autumn feel to the weather last few days?
[00:57] <Richard> especially nights
[00:57] <IaNZ> No..bloody winter,, electric blanket last nite
[00:57] <Richard> hmmm further south
[00:57] <Richard> e.blanket ..ouch
[00:58] <Richard> my sweet corn this year has done the strangest growth
[00:58] <IaNZ> Inland a bit, frost pocket.
[00:58] <Richard> tassels on yop have become misformed cobs
[00:58] <scooby-afk> hey gize
[00:58] <scooby-afk> heading to bed
[00:58] <Richard> yop=top
[00:59] <Richard> hi scooby
[00:59] <scooby-afk> see ya in a couple weeks!
[00:59] <scooby-afk> maybe sooner
[00:59] <scooby-afk> hia richard
[00:59] <Richard> have a good one
[00:59] <scooby-afk> thanks... i'll try
[00:59] <scooby-afk> : )
[00:59] <Richard> ~:+)
[00:59] <scooby-afk> peace out!
[00:59] <Richard> lol
[00:59] <Richard> for sure
[00:59] <IaNZ> Does your wife work Richard?
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[01:00] <Richard> Ian: no type A diabetic
[01:00] <IaNZ> Can't you stock up on Insulin?
[01:00] <Richard> trying to buy as many supplies as possible near the end
[01:01] <IaNZ> 3 kids.. she must be tough
[01:01] <Richard> but you can only get 3 months worth of insulin at the chemist
[01:01] <Richard> kids all left home now
[01:01] <Richard> so wife & I look after each other
[01:02] <Richard> she is helping me to try and see this through
[01:02] <IaNZ> I have a friend with parkinsons... also not a good outlook
[01:02] <Richard> but spiritually we need this and the earth as well
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[01:03] <Richard> everything is worn out & tied
[01:03] <Richard> hi
[01:03] <IaNZ> I guess... and nobody dies..
[01:04] <IaNZ> But as you drive thru town.. and all the nice houses... seems incredible..
[01:04] <Richard> watching news tonight and the reporter says (dramatically) Deaths on Fiji Islands
[01:04] <Richard> turns out there was a family
[01:04] <Richard> wait until there's more than a family
[01:05] <Richard> people will be numbed
[01:05] <Richard> so you have to prepare the mind
[01:06] <walt> been doing that since I was 17
[01:06] <IaNZ> Yeah...the zetas describe it well...I always agree with them....how they know people.
[01:06] <Richard> they certainly do
[01:07] <IaNZ> My own Prophesy said that... the most important prep. will be mental
[01:07] <IaNZ> How old are u now Walt?
[01:07] <Richard> appeared as a dream or ?
[01:07] <walt> 50
[01:08] <Richard> we are the old boys club
[01:08] <IaNZ> Similar to Rich andI
[01:08] <Richard> 50, 50 & 49
[01:08] <Aaaaa> me 55
[01:08] <Richard> hey
[01:08] <Richard> cool
[01:08] <IaNZ> No a channeled message 30 yrs ago
[01:09] <Richard> you know as a tennager I never thought I'd see the turn of the new millenium
[01:09] <IaNZ> Actually me 55 soon:-)
[01:09] <LochNess> what is this room about =x
[01:09] <LochNess> forgive my ignorance
[01:09] <walt> dying : )
[01:09] <Richard> I was wrong but a few years either side is near enough
[01:10] <Richard> sorry Lochness though you were reading/understanding
[01:10] <Richard> In bound planet
[01:10] <Richard> planet X
[01:10] <Richard> wormwood
[01:10] <walt> or so its said
[01:10] <Richard> nibiru
[01:10] <Richard> that's why we are here
[01:11] <walt> Im here to pass on survival information
[01:11] <Aaaaa> Loch you have something to add?
[01:11] <Richard> good man
[01:11] <IaNZ> Yeah.. Walt.. speakup... thats the purpose
[01:11] <Richard> i'm here to pass on faith
[01:12] <Richard> but not religious
[01:13] <IaNZ> I'm into beans and bullets
[01:13] <Richard> ian you from Split Enz country originally?
[01:13] <walt> beans and rice
[01:13] <IaNZ> Have faith.. but take something out of the freezer.. just in case:-)
[01:14] <IaNZ> Yes
[01:14] <Richard> Split Enz <- name of famous NZ band
[01:15] <IaNZ> Unballance Walt.. beans and corn..
[01:15] <walt> peanut butter/honey
[01:15] <walt> matzo crackers
[01:15] <walt> Hardtack
[01:15] <IaNZ> Now you'r humming
[01:15] <walt> canned soup
[01:15] <walt> to use on beans or rice
[01:15] <Richard> Lochness: have you read about planet X?
[01:15] <Aaaaa> fried mice and rice
[01:16] <IaNZ> Suggared cockroaches
[01:16] <walt> not enough meat and alot of crunchy bones
[01:16] <Aaaaa> lots of calcium
[01:16] <walt> nope beans and rice
[01:16] <LochNess> i read a tiny bit a while back
[01:16] <LochNess> maybe 3 or so years ago
[01:16] <LochNess> i dont remember anything though
[01:16] <IaNZ> For the long term.. you have to farm.
[01:16] <LochNess> =\
[01:17] <Richard> so how did you find your way here
[01:17] <IaNZ> Richard and I are cowboys.. so we'll be OK
[01:17] <LochNess> me?
[01:17] <Richard> not in Waikato basin country I won't be
[01:17] <LochNess> i found my way via a message board
[01:18] <walt> http://lds.about.com/library/bl/faq/blcalculator.htm
[01:18] <LochNess> of people making fun of thise room
[01:18] * Ralf is away: ZzZz (l/p!on)[ralf@ustco.com] : os-2/bx
[01:18] <IaNZ> Guided Richard...have faith..
[01:18] <walt> you been to Sci.astro
[01:18] <Richard> Ian    :+)
[01:18] * Ralf is now known as idleZzZz
[01:19] <Richard> well they must have idle time if they take the time to make fun of this room
[01:19] <IaNZ> I tripped into zetatalk via a debunking message.. struck gold..
[01:19] <Richard> 911 led me to zetatalk
[01:19] <walt> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5499/fs.html
[01:20] <Aaaaa> Loch,what is your opinion?
[01:20] <walt> shw me the planet
[01:20] <LochNess> lol, i have no clue what is going on right now
[01:20] <LochNess> im wanking off, not paying attention
[01:20] <IaNZ> After you have read for 1000hrs... then you can have an opinion
[01:21] <Mugada> :-)
[01:21] <walt> hope its good for you
[01:21] <LochNess> just to get the facts straight, are any of you psychos?
[01:21] <Aaaaa> yup!
[01:21] <Richard> should go with the colour of your face the day the passing happens
[01:22] <IaNZ> Completely...watch out..
[01:22] <LochNess> i dunno what the hell this room is for, that is why i am here
[01:22] <Richard> http://www.zetatalk.com
[01:22] <walt> shhhhhhhhhh  dont say that to loud
[01:22] <Richard> get reading
[01:23] <LochNess> are you aliens...i knew that damn butcher under my bed was an alien!
[01:23] <Aaaaa> we bait people in then switch them to STS.com
[01:23] <IaNZ> I told a young guy.. who is very bright,, one of NZs top students
[01:24] <Richard> "are you aliens"   .....not yet
[01:24] <LochNess> i am an alien
[01:24] <LochNess> to europe
[01:24] <IaNZ> And he read the lot, and was most impressed.  Thinks it's so consistent ..it must be true.
[01:24] <LochNess> does your planet have a europe?
[01:25] <IaNZ> I valued his opinion.
[01:25] <Richard> does it matter if it has a Laos
[01:26] <LochNess> am i an alien now? do you understand me? i am getting no feedback
[01:26] <walt> LOCH read the room title and restrictions
[01:27] <Richard> I dunno if you are an alien or not ... it does matter
[01:27] <IaNZ> Dog problems..brb
[01:27] <LochNess> do aliens smoke poles?
[01:27] <Richard> does = doesn't
[01:27] <Richard> nope
[01:28] <LochNess> ok, the butcher under my bed says your name isn't richard, its bernard
[01:29] <Richard> well Loch this room is to discuss poleshift survival
[01:29] <LochNess> my balls are so big, they could be planet X, and they will created a cataclysmic on the earth
[01:29] <Richard> if your not interested then don't waste your or our time
[01:29] <LochNess> oh
[01:29] <LochNess> ok
[01:30] <LochNess> my bad my bad
[01:30] <LochNess> i want to prepare
[01:30] <Richard> well go to the zetatalk site & read
[01:30] <walt> prepare for what?
[01:30] <LochNess> i am
[01:30] <LochNess> i want a pet mastadon
[01:30] <LochNess> i will pet it like a dog
[01:31] <LochNess> i want to prepare for this poleshifting
[01:32] <walt> sure you do
[01:32] <LochNess> i think it would be fun
[01:32] <LochNess> like candy
[01:33] <Jurian> ness, shut up or leave
[01:33] <IaNZ> Where are the kickers when u need them
[01:33] <Jurian> !op jurian
[01:33] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Jurian
[01:33] * Jurian sets mode: +b *!*Brian@12.242.188.*
[01:33] <Aaaaa> thanks Jurian
[01:33] * LochNess was kicked by Jurian (get a life)
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[01:34] <Jurian> quite welcome
[01:34] <Richard> thanks Jurian
[01:34] <IaNZ> Pow..BLAM
[01:34] <Jurian> np :p
[01:34] <IaNZ> Whats your choice in beans Walt
[01:35] <walt> pinto, kidney, peas/lentils
[01:35] <walt> barley
[01:35] <Richard> brb ....have to feed the dog
[01:35] <IaNZ> We figure we had better start to learn to cook/eat them now
[01:36] <walt> yep
[01:36] <IaNZ> Do u pressure cook them?
[01:36] <walt> all these people that think they are going out AT and start foraging are in for a surprize
[01:36] <walt> Not neccesary
[01:36] <walt> soak them overnite
[01:37] <walt> or grind them up
[01:37] <walt> depends on how you use them
[01:37] <IaNZ> Going to be a disaster
[01:37] <IaNZ> How do u cook if u grind?
[01:37] <walt> mix with rice in soups
[01:38] <walt> make bean patties
[01:38] <IaNZ> I just ordered a colombian made grinder..cast iron..
[01:38] <walt> I got an old grist grinder
[01:38] <IaNZ> OK..cook ist ..then grind?
[01:39] <Richard> found a cast iron cauldron few weeks back
[01:39] <walt> made from cracking corn
[01:39] <Aaaaa> g'nite all, gotta zzzzz!
[01:39] <walt> no grind first if using for patties
[01:39] <Richard> later Aaaaaaaaa
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[01:40] <walt> in fact that should be ground to a little courser than flour
[01:40] <IaNZ> Thanks.. patties sound good...bit of variety..
[01:40] <walt> dont forget the seasoning
[01:41] <Richard> you guys collecting seeds?
[01:41] <IaNZ> Yeah.. don't die of starvation.. die of boredom...corn porridge.3x per day..
[01:41] <walt> http://www.lodgemfg.com/
[01:42] <walt> cast iron pots/skillets
[01:42] <IaNZ> Taro and bananas Rich
[01:42] <walt> http://www.idos.com/
[01:42] <Richard> collecting everything from dandelion seeds, swede, passionfruit and all points in between
[01:42] <Richard> mango will be good for NZ
[01:43] <walt> http://www.ceedubs.com/
[01:43] <walt> http://www.goodwoodonline.com/cast_iron.htm
[01:43] <IaNZ> Can't wait for Mangos to grow...we'll be dead
[01:43] <walt> cast iron is good especially if cooking over wood fire
[01:44] <walt> make sure you are used to whatever foraged foods you are eating
[01:44] <IaNZ> Coffie might be good??
[01:44] <walt> because they will cause severe gasto/intestinal problems
[01:44] <Richard> true Ian
[01:45] <Richard> thanks for links walt
[01:45] <walt> NP
[01:45] <walt> got lots more
[01:45] <IaNZ> Beans don't like me:-)
[01:45] <walt> wheat doesnt like me
[01:45] <Richard> Ian how far inland from the coast are you
[01:45] <walt> I found that out while preping for Y2K
[01:46] <IaNZ> Thats more common than people think
[01:46] <walt> a lot of people are wheat intolerant
[01:46] <Richard> walt but you can eat bread?
[01:46] <walt> not from ground wheat
[01:46] <Richard> ok
[01:46] <walt> I can eat store baught
[01:46] <Richard> I know why my wife got to like rice now
[01:47] <IaNZ> Do u think your Y2K preps were wasted?
[01:47] <walt> not at all
[01:47] <walt> I had stocks before Y2K
[01:47] <Richard> that's what I'm saying about now walt
[01:47] <walt> I have been into "survivalism" fore 33 years
[01:47] <IaNZ> Impressive.
[01:48] <Richard> so you are prepared?
[01:48] <walt> Y2K just hastened some purchases
[01:48] <walt> Yep
[01:48] <walt> like a hand pump for my well
[01:48] <IaNZ> But so many survivalists may be preparing for the wrong war...
[01:48] <Richard> me <- short prep & faith
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[01:49] <IaNZ> Heaps of guns... but no cow..
[01:49] <walt> doent confuse "survivalist" with the militia/patriot conspiracy group
[01:49] <walt> Im an ols school survivalist
[01:49] <IaNZ> Hi Obany.. what time where u are??!!
[01:49] <walt> old
[01:49] <Richard> but in hindsight a life that has actually probably prepared me for this more than what I currently understand
[01:50] <obany> hi
[01:50] <walt> most of my tools are hand tools
[01:50] <obany> 10:50am
[01:50] <IaNZ> I find frugalsqurral good... even the gun stuff...
[01:50] <Richard> Ian: <- no gun here
[01:50] <obany> hi IanZ Richard
[01:50] <Richard> hi obany
[01:50] <walt> Frugals is ok
[01:50] <obany> i don't own a gun either, and see no use in it
[01:51] <IaNZ> Good morning
[01:51] <Richard> worked on farms for 17 years and never had a gun
[01:51] <walt> http://www.rmsg.us/articles.htm
[01:51] <walt> thats a good site for info
[01:51] <IaNZ> Read Nancys story.. plent of guns there... for an anti gun lady
[01:52] <walt> http://www.justpeace.org/nuggetsindex.htm
[01:52] <walt> http://www.bwolf.com/
[01:52] <IaNZ> And the zetas mention guns plenty too... they know people...
[01:52] <walt> remember where nancy is
[01:53] <walt> she is in america, we do have a gun culture here
[01:53] <IaNZ> I would find America very scary post PS
[01:53] <walt> http://www.textfiles.com/survival/
[01:54] <walt> Naaa
[01:54] <walt> I think it will be more polite than now
[01:54] <IaNZ> But I plan to have guns here too. For hunting.  And protection.
[01:54] <obany> just don't stay close to cities etc, and follow the advice that the Zetas give
[01:55] <walt> I dont need to follow the ZT advice
[01:55] <Richard> guess who Lonely Planet Guidebook selected as country to visit 2003?
[01:55] <Richard> yep New Zealand
[01:55] <Richard> buggers
[01:56] <walt> my plans where made way before ZT came around
[01:56] <walt> http://www.geocities.com/mrostov/
[01:57] <walt> Those sites Ive posted are all survival related site tons of information
[01:57] <Richard> so walt you would recommend "get reading" !  :+)
[01:58] <Richard> I have the SAS Survival Handbook
[01:58] <walt> depends on your skills level
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[01:58] <walt> Carla Emerys  "Encyclopedia of Counrty Living
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[01:58] <obany> what i mean with the advice is about communities etc etc.. that kind of advice ...  get it ...
[01:58] <IaNZ> Richard..your farming skills may be more useful
[01:59] <Richard> i hope enough to see me through
[01:59] <walt> ISBN 0-912365-95-1
[01:59] <IaNZ> Carla is the bible Walt,, just became a convert....
[01:59] <Richard> well have been also gardening to live off
[02:00] <walt> Storey's Basic Country Skills
[02:00] <Richard> veggie garden and many fruit trees
[02:00] <IaNZ> A gun and Carla is all u need....:-)
[02:00] <walt> ISBN 1-58017-202-4
[02:00] <Richard> 3 grapevines have a HUGE crop this year
[02:00] <Richard> not sure if we are going to get to harvest it
[02:00] <IaNZ> What..no frosts??
[02:00] <walt> http://www.storeybooks.com/
[02:01] <Richard> no more the time of year grapes ripen ....autumn
[02:01] <walt> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/9333/BOOKLIS.htm
[02:01] <walt> any books on there
[02:01] <Richard> where?
[02:02] <IaNZ> I'm a little worried that the maize crop may not make it either.
[02:02] <Richard> books on what
[02:02] <Richard> hey Ian
[02:02] <Richard> my sweetcorn has done bizarre things this year
[02:02] <Richard> where tassel on top is has turned into deformed cob/s
[02:02] <obany> you have your own garden, Richard?
[02:03] <Richard> half acre obany
[02:03] <IaNZ> The maize looks good right now. But harvest is in MAY
[02:03] <obany> ah
[02:03] <walt> http://www.countrysidemag.com/  great mag
[02:03] <IaNZ> What town are u in Rich?
[02:03] <Richard> Ian have you ever seen cobs on top of corn/maize?
[02:03] <Richard> north of Hamilton
[02:03] <IaNZ> Yes
[02:03] <Richard> rural
[02:04] <IaNZ> Te Rapa...
[02:04] <Richard> further north
[02:04] <Richard> Te Rapa is industrial
[02:04] <Richard> big time now
[02:04] <IaNZ> Long time since I was there/...
[02:04] <Richard> extends all the way to dairy factory which used to be in the country
[02:05] <Richard> Te Rapa dairy factory
[02:05] <IaNZ> Do u own the land
[02:05] <Richard> yep
[02:05] <IaNZ> Tough to leave then...
[02:05] <Richard> that side of things doesn't worry us
[02:06] <IaNZ> Better than dead of course...
[02:06] <Richard> finding a hide out for during the passing at least is main concern
[02:06] <Richard> Kaimai's are the place
[02:06] <Richard> I "feel" very sure about
[02:07] <IaNZ> Great,,then u die of starvation??
[02:07] <Richard> they are granite with bauxelt
[02:07] <Richard> have stores
[02:07] <Richard> whether its enough will always be debatable
[02:08] <IaNZ> Yes.. I think you have to think of 19th centuary farming..
[02:08] <Richard> Ian are you in line with Wellington/White Island?
[02:08] <Richard> where you live
[02:08] <IaNZ> Just to the right
[02:08] <Richard> ouch
[02:08] <Richard> east coast
[02:09] <Richard> edge of pacific plate
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[02:09] <Richard> sinks under edge of west coast
[02:10] <Richard> kaimai's take on mountain building
[02:10] <Richard> but they say our movement will be a sliding one
[02:10] <Richard> which is better than jolts
[02:10] <IaNZ> Know all that... have FAITH....:-)
[02:10] <Richard> like other areas of world
[02:11] <IaNZ> Would god have put me here if it wasn't OK??
[02:11] <Richard> communities will definitely be the way after
[02:12] <Richard> how did your message appear to you all that time back?
[02:12] <Richard> dream etc
[02:12] <IaNZ> Via a psychic.. channeled message..spirit.
[02:12] <obany> well i live in the Netherlands, ... there are other reasons to that one is born in this or that country ... lessons to learn etc ..
[02:13] <Richard> funny you should say that obany
[02:13] <Richard> my father recently told me that when he was in the english navy
[02:13] <IaNZ> What did u do wrong Obany :-)
[02:13] <Richard> he was offered to transfers
[02:13] <obany> IanZ:: nothing
[02:13] <Richard> one to Chile or one to New Zealand
[02:14] <Richard> Chile has had a coup, killings
[02:14] <Mugada> bye all 4 now back latter
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[02:14] <Richard> NZ is peaceful
[02:15] <Richard> Chile would also not be a nice place to be duruing passage
[02:15] <IaNZ> Got to go warm my wife.. electric blanket too slow.
[02:15] <Richard> during
[02:15] <Richard> later Ian
[02:15] <obany> laters Ianz
[02:15] <IaNZ> Nice chatting.. c ya...nite
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[02:16] <Richard> hmm its later than I realised
[02:17] <Richard> been doing a lot of deep sleeping lately
[02:17] <Richard> as if body knows its preparing for something
[02:18] <obany> maybe so .. Richard, or because of other reasons
[02:19] <Richard> not much different happening here except we are both mentally in a different mind set and pyshically preparing
[02:20] <Richard> both those will make you tied
[02:20] <obany> maybe because of all the thinking etc etc, stressing you out a bit..
[02:20] <Richard> yep
[02:22] <Richard> some nice pleasant music helps
[02:23] <Richard> currently listening to a brazilian band who play oriental/middle eastern music mixed with brazilian folk
[02:23] <obany> yes, that's right... or taking some time for yourself to relax a bit ..
[02:25] <Richard> well obany I'd better call it a night
[02:25] <Richard> and see you later
[02:25] <obany> okay okay, Richard .. sleep tight
[02:25] <Richard> later
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[03:44] <myco> mornin
[03:45] <obany> hi
[03:45] <obany> your first time here or have you  visited this channel before
[03:45] <obany> did you see the topic?
[03:45] <myco> popped in and out
[03:45] <myco> we've talked on icq
[03:45] <myco> back in the day
[03:46] <myco> youre name is probably still on that list on some pc hehe
[03:46] <myco> and yes i know the topic,  for many years
[03:46] <obany> mmmm myco .. .let me think.. you probably have used another name on ICQ during that time
[03:46] <obany> okay okay myco
[03:46] <myco> no
[03:47] <myco> not on icq i havent
[03:47] <myco> icq updates
[03:47] <myco> # stays the same
[03:47] <myco> mine was ...
[03:47] <myco> 3593480 i think
[03:47] <myco> havent used in cpl yrs tho
[03:47] <myco> aim is more useful now
[03:48] <obany> well i still use icq, but i can use aim too ... if i remember my nick over there   
[03:48] <myco> shift of models as it were
[03:48] <myco> mm on there im 'transhaman'
[03:49] <obany> so you still take it serious ?
[03:49] <myco> i approached it all in a bit of a diffrerent manner
[03:49] <myco> and yes, im as ok as it will get i suppose
[03:50] <myco> there will be a lot of last minut flurry , ill be a part of that
[03:50] <myco> genes being air mailed here and there and such
[03:51] <obany> could you explain ?
[03:51] <myco> ill get off the coasts, we have a couple of properties, yada yada
[03:51] <myco> explain what
[03:51] <obany> genes being air mailed?
[03:51] <myco> for everyu person in the random grow experiments oveer the past 2 yrs
[03:51] <myco> i expect we
[03:52] <myco> will see a lot more pop up shortly
[03:52] <myco> what i meant by gene swap
[03:52] <obany> okay okay, didn't know what you where telling
[03:52] <myco> yah i read ya
[03:53] <myco> as i said, ,we talked at length a few times
[03:53] <myco> i know the name and what you were up to
[03:53] <myco> im just making some generalizations
[03:53] <obany> well it's a bit blurry but well it's getting back now a bit...
[03:54] <obany> that i talked to you ....
[03:54] <myco> we just talked broadly on icq about allof this, call it 2 plus yrs ago
[03:54] <myco> probably more like 4-6
[03:54] <obany> but probably have been more  tehn 2 years ago yes
[03:54] <obany> then
[03:54] <myco> all things considered
[03:55] <myco> yah sactly
[03:55] <myco> think youre in .nl
[03:55] <myco> altho since youre on irc
[03:55] <myco> not rocket science and all, yes i realize
[03:57] <obany> okay okay
[03:57] <myco> i do network engineering, pardon
[03:58] <obany> did you took some stes to prepare for it ... and have you been to the website lately ?
[03:58] <obany> www.zetatalk.com and this channel also has it's own site : www.shift2003.com
[03:59] <myco> course
[03:59] <obany> anyway i will be back in like 10 min from now
[03:59] <myco> ive been grafting deltas for years for what its worth
[03:59] <obany> brb - 10 min aprox
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[04:50] <obany> hi
[04:51] <BoY> hell-o
[04:52] <BoY> what time is it there
[04:52] <obany> 1:52pm
[04:53] <BoY> 7:52 am here
[04:53] <obany> ah some 6 hour difference
[04:56] <BoY> actually it's 18 hrs
[04:57] <BoY> as u r in thurs
[04:57] <BoY> i think
[04:59] <obany> nah wednesday
[05:00] <BoY> oh
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[05:01] <from_Texas> hi obany
[05:01] <obany> hi from_texas
[05:02] <from_Texas> how is your world today
[05:02] <obany> fine fine fine
[05:03] <obany> BoY: if i where i girl then maybe,. but hey don't finger me ;P
[05:03] <BoY> Y u,u,u
[05:03] <BoY> !
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[07:43] <Jade4u> sorry bout that :)
[07:43] <QueenVee> no problem
[07:43] <QueenVee> hello
[07:43] <Jade4u> stupid mirc
[07:43] <Jade4u> Hi
[07:44] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[07:44] <Jade4u> I saw logs for it on zetatalk, so I thought I'd check it out.
[07:44] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[07:44] <Jade4u> Since probably early 2002
[07:45] <Jade4u> At first I was skeptical, but seeing how strangly the world is behaving weather wise, etc.. convinced me.
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[07:46] <tex-at-work> Hi QV
[07:47] <Jade4u> How long have you knownm Queenvee?
[07:47] <tex-at-work> What is going on today
[07:48] <tex-at-work> Jade are you asking me that question
[07:49] <Jade4u> No, I was asking Queenvee how long she's been aware of the poleshift.
[07:49] <tex-at-work> ok sorry
[07:49] <Jade4u> It's ok. :)
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[07:53] <Jade4u> Has anyone seen the images of how strangely the sun has been behaving recently?
[07:55] <QueenVee> so sorry
[07:55] <QueenVee> i had to step away for a minute
[07:55] <Jade4u> It's ok.
[07:55] <QueenVee> hi tex, hello nino
[07:55] <QueenVee> Jade: yeah, a lot of intense solar activity
[07:56] <QueenVee> Jade: i've known about the coming poleshift since i was very young, through various sources....
[07:56] <QueenVee> but only discovered zetatalk and the May2003 date about a year ago
[07:56] <Jade4u> Yes, I've seen a lot of strange images on www.cyberspaceorbit of the sun.
[07:56] <QueenVee> nino: don't believe i've seen you here before -- what brings you to this room?
[07:57] <QueenVee> well, that's caused by PX, the whole solar system is affected by its approach...
[07:58] <QueenVee> nino: ARE YOU THERE??
[07:58] <Jade4u> Wow. Look, you can buy a visit to an observatory on ebay.. too bad I don't have 13,000 dollars.
[07:58] <QueenVee> ha!
[07:59] <QueenVee> apparently the few observatories that allow the general public to view are all booked up until next fall....
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[07:59] <Dsarith> Good Morning all and QV
[07:59] <tex-at-work> hi Dsarith
[08:00] <QueenVee> hello Dsarith
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[08:01] <Dsarith> Is Nino causing problems this morning :-)
[08:02] <QueenVee> yes, already....
[08:02] <QueenVee> too damned early....
[08:03] <juditness> i am trying to deal with this problem as we speak :/
[08:03] <juditness> trying to keep them out of here.
[08:03] <Dsarith> Yip. Not even time to have a good round of coffee yet
[08:05] <QueenVee> thanks juditness, but it hasn't been that much of a problem
[08:05] <QueenVee> last night they were indulging in some flooding
[08:05] <juditness> they are pasting logs on their forums
[08:05] <juditness> i saw it
[08:05] <juditness> i have had enough
[08:05] <QueenVee> logs of this channel?
[08:05] <juditness> yes.
[08:05] <Jade4u> Forums?
[08:05] <QueenVee> not nice
[08:05] <juditness> tell me about it.
[08:06] <QueenVee> Jade: oh, just some silly teenagers...
[08:06] <Jade4u> Ahh.
[08:06] <Jade4u> That's strange.
[08:06] <QueenVee> nah, this channel attracts all kinds of nutbars
[08:06] <QueenVee> Jade: what part of the world do you live in?
[08:07] <Jade4u> Montana
[08:07] <Jade4u> USA
[08:07] <tex-at-work> Qv is it the channel or the topic or just you that attracts them.... lol
[08:08] <QueenVee> lol, very good
[08:08] <QueenVee> montana -- relatively safe location, i would think
[08:09] <Jade4u> Should be.
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[08:10] <Buente> aah the Supernova Won't Destroy the World
[08:10] <Jade4u> huh?
[08:10] <Buente> http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/2003/0108supernova.html
[08:10] <Buente> :)
[08:10] <QueenVee> Jade4: are you east or west of the continental divide?
[08:10] <QueenVee> hi Buente
[08:10] <QueenVee> this is Jade, she lives in Montana
[08:11] <Jade4u> East I think.
[08:11] <QueenVee> Buente: remind me where you live....?
[08:11] <Buente> holland
[08:11] <QueenVee> ah, right
[08:12] <QueenVee> buente: thanks for that link. what a relief.
[08:12] <Buente> :)
[08:12] <Buente> http://www.eso.org/outreach/press-rel/pr-2003/pr-01-03.html
[08:12] <Buente> nearest brown star
[08:12] <Buente> weird
[08:12] <Buente> 12ly
[08:12] <QueenVee> Jade: have you read this, about Montana. it woudl appear that you are NOT in a safe location after all: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx048.htm
[08:13] <Jade4u> Let me see.
[08:14] <Jade4u> Well, I suppose it could be worse.
[08:14] <QueenVee> well, not too much worse...
[08:15] <Buente> but what do you think about this
[08:15] <Buente> http://www.eso.org/outreach/press-rel/pr-2003/pr-01-03.html
[08:15] <Buente> nearest brown star
[08:16] <QueenVee> well, it's not PX....
[08:16] <Buente> no weird
[08:16] <QueenVee> there's no end of "new" things they're finding out there these days
[08:17] <Buente> i know but why do they find it so extraordinary that 12 ly is so close and dont see a px
[08:17] <QueenVee> sorry, i don't understand your question....
[08:18] <Buente> hmm they find it weird that they found a brown star so close to us (12 ly) but dont even see the px
[08:20] <QueenVee> well, i believe PX is farther away than that at present....
[08:20] <Buente> farther then 12 ly?
[08:21] <QueenVee> mmm, not sure
[08:21] <Jade4u> I think so too.
[08:21] <QueenVee> but, of course, according to ZT, NASA does see PX, they know all about it...
[08:22] <Buente> so it must travel at 38 times the speed of light
[08:22] <QueenVee> like i said, i'm not sure Buente. i'm sure that info is on the zetatalk site.
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[08:22] <QueenVee> hey REd!
[08:22] <tex-at-work> it does not travel that fast and is not nearly that far away
[08:22] <tex-at-work> hi Red
[08:22] <Buente> i know
[08:22] <QueenVee> i was just saying last night that we hadn't seen you for a while
[08:23] <Red> Hi all!
[08:23] <QueenVee> whatcha been up to?
[08:23] <Red> been on the road for the past couple weeks
[08:23] <Red> saw some great country throughout BC
[08:24] <Red> What's new here??
[08:24] <QueenVee> oh, the usual....
[08:24] <QueenVee> extreme weather, earthquakes, volcanoes, train derailments....
[08:24] <Red> heh   no doubt... looks like a growing crowd tho
[08:24] <QueenVee> more pics from SteveH, more debate, more debunking...
[08:25] <QueenVee> more grinding and gnashing of teeth
[08:25] <Red> lol
[08:25] <QueenVee> and so it goes
[08:25] <Red> Hmmm   are we being monitored here now?
[08:25] <QueenVee> oh, no doubt....
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[08:26] <Red> heh   yeah I guess its no surprise...
[08:26] <Red> new pics from Steve?   Anything more conclusive?
[08:26] <JurAFK> being monitored? eh?
[08:26] <QueenVee> no, alas....
[08:26] <Jade4u> monitored?
[08:26] <QueenVee> relax: we were being facetious
[08:27] <Jade4u> Oh ic
[08:27] <Red> heh   Oh well...   as you say, more of the same
[08:27] <QueenVee> Red: for other news, you should check out my website: www.shift2003.com
[08:27] <QueenVee> lots of weird stuff going on in the last couple of weeks
[08:28] <Red> thanks.. I haven't got there yet on my first internet fix...
[08:28] <QueenVee> hehe
[08:28] <QueenVee> yeah, first things first
[08:28] <Red> PS news had some interesting stuff on the geophys&geomag shift coming
[08:28] <QueenVee> oh yea?
[08:28] <QueenVee> today?
[08:29] <Red> was dated yesterday
[08:29] <QueenVee> i haven't checked the news yet...
[08:29] <QueenVee> mmm, i'll have a look
[08:29] <Red> you have the url handy?
[08:29] <Red> http://wrightworld.net/poleshiftnews.htm   just in case
[08:30] <QueenVee> it's in my bookmarks...  ;-)
[08:31] <Jade4u> PS news?
[08:31] <Jade4u> oh
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[08:31] <QueenVee> hey islander
[08:31] <QueenVee> meet Jade, she's new, in Montana
[08:31] <islander> hi queenvee
[08:32] <QueenVee> islander is on Vancouver Island, BC.... and Red is in Alberta
[08:32] <QueenVee> i'm in southwestern ontario
[08:32] <islander> hello jade
[08:33] <QueenVee> Red: on the PS site today there is a picture of a solar flare -- what is that blue dot beside it?
[08:33] <Red> Hiya Jade, Islander
[08:34] <Red> that woul;d be the size of th earth for comparison
[08:34] <QueenVee> oh
[08:34] <QueenVee> cool
[08:34] <Red> gives it a bit more meaning...   BIG flare
[08:34] <Jade4u> Hello Red
[08:34] <Jade4u> Hello Islander
[08:35] <Red> Islander... I was just touring the island...  man those ferries can eat up a day :0
[08:35] <QueenVee> how could we NOT be affected by such a huge flare?
[08:35] <Red> It wasn't earth directed so we don't get the brunt of it... yet
[08:36] <islander> Red: I wouldn't want to have to use them in an emergency lol
[08:36] <QueenVee> hehe
[08:36] <Red> no kidding...  lol
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[08:36] <QueenVee> can just see it: "driver, can't this thing go faster???"
[08:37] <islander> imagine an evacuation scenario, 1/2 million people divided by 1,000 per trip by 4 hours per trip
[08:38] <islander> be easier to just issue lifejackets and tell everyone to start swimming
[08:38] <QueenVee> hi ygg
[08:38] <QueenVee> well, excuse me for a bit; i gotta make some coffee....
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[08:38] <Red> hehe   yeah... too bad they are selling / sold(?) the fast ones lol
[08:38] <Red> see ya QV
[08:39] <islander> boats aren't allowed to create a wake here, it does to much environmental damage
[08:40] <Red> yeah, I guess they were pretty nasty
[08:40] <islander> or it means that those that own waterfront would have to move the cahirs back from the shore a couple of feet
[08:40] <islander> chairs
[08:40] <Red> I hate when that happens  hehe
[08:40] <Red> are you on the coast?
[08:40] <islander> might get the toes wet
[08:41] <islander> their not going to handle the shift that well
[08:41] <islander> they might have to legislate against it
[08:41] <islander> :)
[08:41] <Red> lol    for sure
[08:41] <Red> even the polar ice melt is going to impact them soon
[08:42] <islander> just imagine the real estate ads
[08:42] <islander> .....expanding shoreline...
[08:43] <Red> my wife's family lives in the lower mainland...  4ft below sea level and going down  kinda makes you wonder why some areas were ever developed
[08:43] <islander> developers and cheaper land
[08:44] <Red> indeed
[08:44] <islander> all in the name of rofit
[08:44] <islander> profit
[08:44] * Red nods
[08:44] <Red> so how did you happen upon the zeta stuff?
[08:45] <islander> doing some research on prophecies a few years back
[08:45] <islander> when the site could be read in a day
[08:46] <islander> came back to  it later after doing a lot of reading and research of my own
[08:46] <islander> how about everyone else?
[08:47] <Red> I ran across some info in a mini book from the supermarket... it was pretty wierd but interesting enough for me to do a bit of a search
[08:48] <Red> I can't say I have done a lot of research
[08:48] <islander> if anything, this causes you to open the mind a little and start thinking
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[08:49] <Red> it does that!
[08:50] <Red> ar you making plans? preparing at all?
[08:50] <islander> preparing in order that i think things will remain available
[08:51] <islander> right now is mainly gathering of info, skills, basic knowledge on everything we take for granted
[08:52] <islander> I go into a store and start doing the mental exercise of what do I need, was is just nice to have, and if I had to make each of these items
[08:52] <islander> how would I do it
[08:53] <islander> big ?
[08:53] <islander> like how do you make soap, or wax, or which plants are best to make clothing from
[08:54] <islander> not just in my area, but for any area
[08:54] <Red> right
[08:55] <islander> then that leads to the question, what do I know about the plant and could I grow it and where can I get seeds
[08:55] <Red> have you been to the yahoo TT-Canada board?    its pretty quiet but Cass has put together a ton of links to some good information
[08:56] <Red> yeah getting and keeping viable seed can be tricky
[08:56] <islander> I use that and the main site regularly as my starting point
[08:56] <islander> I just keep a supply of well oiled cedar boxes
[08:57] <islander> seems to keep the germionation from starting, have kept some seeds for years
[08:57] <islander> germination
[08:57] <Red> That's interesting....  never heard of that
[08:58] <islander> i wondered whether oak barrels and clay flasks might offer the same protection
[08:58] <islander> glazed clay
[08:59] <Red> hard to say... there might be something in the cedar emissions that dos the preservation work
[08:59] <islander> I think it just keeps the misture out, nothing that complex
[09:00] <islander> have done the same with varnished boxes as well
[09:00] <islander> moisture
[09:00] <Red> right... that makes sense
[09:01] <islander> and you don't want it airtight so any moisture still inside can keep releasing
[09:02] <islander> the question I would have is how did a farmer keep there seed at the turn of the century?
[09:02] <islander> you might be in a good area to get that answered
[09:03] <islander> their
[09:03] <islander> how is your prep going?
[09:03] <Red> well here I think the cold was a major factor....  in a more tropical area its has to be a bit more f a problem
[09:04] <Red> I am taking much the same approach...  gathering info an a couple tools etc so I can get/make what I'll need... for a while at least
[09:04] <islander> no matter where we are, the same basics will apply in the future, such as keep out the water, bugs and rodents
[09:05] <islander> the other approach I am taking is to eqip yself with the tools and materials to make tools
[09:05] <islander> equip myself
[09:05] <Red> exactly...   I think sanitation is going to be a major concern.  Thibngs are going to be messy for a long time
[09:06] <islander> no matter how much I think technology, I wish I could just have my Grandparents as a resource
[09:07] <islander> they only went to the store for luxuries
[09:07] <Red> no kidding!  Some old time info is going to be essential
[09:08] <islander> if I had only known 40 years ago... the questions I would have asked
[09:08] <Red> lol   too late schmart...
[09:09] <islander> Have you been browsing the used bookstores?
[09:10] <Red> a bit...  have found some books on plants etc.  The USAF's survival guide looks like a good resource too
[09:11] <islander> have you considered old farm reports and almanacs?
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[09:11] <Red> Not really but they are full of good stuff
[09:13] <islander> even found some interesting ideas from old english school boys annuals
[09:13] <islander> the thick ones parents bought to last them the year
[09:14] <Red> Lee Valley tools has reprinted a bunch of old-home resource books
[09:15] <islander> thats one I will have to look for
[09:15] <Red> they have a web site  leevalleytools.com or something like that
[09:17] <islander> there is also a lot of old professional manuals for architects, engineers, doctors etc that may come in handy when it comes to calculations and methods, identifying materials and organisms
[09:17] <islander> such as how to engineer using a load diagram, no calculators required, just a pencil and ruler
[09:18] <islander> I just bookmarked that site last week
[09:18] <islander> its a nice place to visit
[09:19] <Red> yeah for sure...   a stop in their store is guaranteed to cost you plenty hehe
[09:19] <islander> I like to window shop
[09:20] <islander> lokie but no buy
[09:20] <islander> lookie
[09:20] <islander> :)
[09:21] <Red> me too but... alas I fall prey to temptation   :)
[09:21] <islander> hand tools might be needed for the future right?
[09:21] <islander> and you wouldn't want to buy something that will break
[09:21] <Red> exactly!  
[09:23] <islander> have you gone as far as to set up  or think about a lumber mill yet?
[09:24] <Red> not really... I am thinking there will be wreckage to use for a while...   
[09:24] <islander> or the tools for dowelling and pinning?
[09:24] <islander> probably, but some reprocessing may be required
[09:25] <islander> especially in our area
[09:25] <Red> this is true...   
[09:25] <islander> like can you find the 2x4 in the middle of the forest
[09:26] <islander> lack of nails will be a real problem
[09:27] <Red> here we might resort to soh huts n such...  go with what is available
[09:27] <Red> sod huts
[09:27] <islander> the interesting part of this is guessing about what may remain
[09:28] <Red> yes!  we can do the mill thing but if the trees all burn...
[09:29] <Red> anyway... time for me to get rolling.   See ya soon
[09:29] <islander> good planning
[09:29] <Red> cheers!
[09:30] <islander> see uou later
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[09:31] <islander> wb queenvee
[09:36] <QueenVee> hello
[09:36] <QueenVee> dealing with the cat and my new dog getting to know each other....
[09:36] <QueenVee> it's a great melodrama
[09:37] <islander> they're not fighting like cats and dogs?
[09:37] <islander> lol
[09:37] <Dsarith> "As The Cat Turns"
[09:38] <QueenVee> well, the cat ADORED my previous dog, is very fearless and inquisitive....
[09:38] <QueenVee> but the day the new dog arrived, he went after her, thought she was a rabbit
[09:38] <QueenVee> it's taken her a while to get over that
[09:38] <QueenVee> he was severely punished for it and seems to have gotten the message
[09:38] <QueenVee> so now we're very carefully putting them together again. to see what happens...
[09:39] <islander> the circular dance looking at each other out of the corner of their eyes
[09:41] <QueenVee> well, the cat's curiosity is killing her, and making her more and more bold.....
[09:41] <QueenVee> and the dog's memory of his punishment seems to be keeping him in line....
[09:41] <islander> yuo must have been harsh....
[09:41] <QueenVee> where the final line will rest.... remains to be seen....
[09:42] <islander> the dogs tail will be the first to be attacked if it twitches
[09:42] <Dsarith> The line will be the cat defining that the place is hers, but the dog may remain for now
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[09:42] <QueenVee> well, he has to learn; can't have him killing the cat
[09:43] * philter is now known as poopchute
[09:43] <poopchute> Can the aliens help save the sens? :(
[09:43] * QueenVee sets mode: +b *!*@atlas.corp.hsds.net
[09:43] * poopchute was kicked by QueenVee (poopchute)
[09:43] <QueenVee> yes, the name suits him
[09:43] <Dsarith> Yip
[09:43] <Dsarith> :-)
[09:44] <islander> you you will announce when the next major fight occurs?
[09:44] <islander> and what you you call it?
[09:44] <QueenVee> LOL -- the very sight of the cat at the door has caused the dog to try and climb into my lap for reassurance
[09:45] <QueenVee> and this is a BIG DOG
[09:45] <islander> they're never to big to be sissies
[09:45] <QueenVee> it's like he's saying, i remember that something about that cat got me in major doo-doo, and i don't want it to happen again....
[09:46] <QueenVee> i think the cat will end up dominating the dog....
[09:46] <islander> obviously thinks he was a scapegoat
[09:46] <QueenVee> even though she's a tiny little thing
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[09:48] <QueenVee> the big problem is that my cat as a large ledge outside my window that she likes to sit out on (we call it her "patio"); she's too nervous to come into the room, but misses her patio, and is conflicted..... so she paces outside my door loudly meowing and complaining, but refusing to come in....
[09:50] <Jade4u> Cats are creatures of habit, when faced with a change in their habits, they can become quite neurotic.
[09:51] <QueenVee> Jade: yes, any other cat would be completely freaking out at this point, but this one doesn't have a neurotic temperament, so i think she'll adjust to things quite quickly....
[09:51] <Jade4u> I find with time Cats and Dogs get along fine.
[09:52] <QueenVee> i wish my mother could understand that
[09:52] <QueenVee> she's creating most of the melodrama
[09:52] <Jade4u> Is she fixed?
[09:53] <QueenVee> my mother?
[09:53] <Jade4u> heh, the cat ;)
[09:53] <QueenVee> the cat is NOT fixed; but the dog IS fixed
[09:53] <Jade4u> The dog may be attracted to the scent the cat gives off since it isn't fixed.
[09:53] <QueenVee> he's really quite a docile, submissive dog, not dominant at all
[09:54] <QueenVee> he just thought the cat was a rabbit -- and he's a harrier hound, bred to chase rabbits
[09:55] <QueenVee> he's a pack hound by nature, so very social
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[10:02] <myshizznit> poleshift?
[10:02] <myshizznit> wtf
[10:02] * QueenVee sets mode: +b *!*@ppp02-470.algx.iadfw.net
[10:02] * myshizznit was kicked by QueenVee (buh bye asshole)
[10:04] <Dsarith> What a loser!
[10:04] <Dsarith> :-)
[10:08] <QueenVee> my god, you should see the string of obscenities this guy is messaging me with...
[10:08] <QueenVee> what's with these people?
[10:09] <Dsarith> Ignoring them is the worst thing you could do
[10:09] <Dsarith> They hate that
[10:09] <QueenVee> yes, desperate for attention
[10:09] <Dsarith> Exactly
[10:10] <QueenVee> geez, finally had to put the guy on ignore
[10:10] <QueenVee> just went on and on and on
[10:11] <Dsarith> The person is about 12 or something
[10:11] <Dsarith> brb
[10:12] <islander> brb?
[10:13] <QueenVee> be right back = brb
[10:13] <islander> ok
[10:13] <QueenVee> islander: are you subscribed to tt-watch?
[10:13] <islander> have to go now, will catch you later
[10:14] <islander> yes i AM
[10:14] <QueenVee> i just posted your link there, hold on...
[10:14] <islander> HANGING
[10:14] <QueenVee> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/12219
[10:14] <QueenVee> see, if you bug me enough, i eventually get around to things....
[10:14] <QueenVee> squeaky wheel gets the oil....
[10:15] <QueenVee> the response will be interesting
[10:16] <islander> I'll remember that, and I can hardly wait
[10:16] <QueenVee> hehe
[10:16] <islander> I'' give MC 2 hours to post in sci-fi
[10:16] <QueenVee> lol
[10:16] <islander> :)
[10:16] <QueenVee> let the name-calling begin....
[10:17] <islander> will they be original this time?
[10:17] <QueenVee> don't hold your breath
[10:17] <islander> I know....., original thought, what a concept.....
[10:18] <islander> :)
[10:19] <QueenVee> my hound makes the funniest noises when he's asleep....
[10:19] <islander> dreaming of the chase... of the ...
[10:20] <QueenVee> he's such a pack hound
[10:20] <QueenVee> this morning when we were heading out on our walk, we were approaching a large group of people waiting for a bus....
[10:20] <QueenVee> his hound brain went "dog pack".....
[10:20] <islander> does it look like he's smiling in his sleep?
[10:21] <QueenVee> so he started baying at them, as though to say, "going hunting? can i come? can i cani?
[10:21] <QueenVee> no, he looks like he's in pain....
[10:22] <islander> he got in trouble in his dreams too
[10:22] <QueenVee> hehe
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[10:22] <QueenVee> hello Typhon -- what brings you to this room?
[10:22] <Typhon> hi, i was just talking with some others in #earthchanges last night
[10:23] <QueenVee> oh, yeah?
[10:23] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[10:23] <Typhon> yeah.. does zetapal join this channel also?
[10:23] <Typhon> well, i found out about it a year ago.. from a friend who heard nancy speak
[10:23] <Typhon> i checked out the site.. and then have recently started reading it again
[10:24] <QueenVee> yes, zetapal DOES join in this channel, usually later in the day
[10:24] <QueenVee> whereabouts do you live?
[10:24] <Typhon> i live in iow
[10:24] <Typhon> iowa
[10:25] <QueenVee> relatively safe for the poleshift?
[10:26] <Typhon> i hope so
[10:26] <Typhon> its not too close to the coast
[10:26] <Typhon> but.. who knows!
[10:26] <Typhon> if this poleshift does occur, i feel sorry for the people that do live near the coast
[10:27] <QueenVee> Typhon: no, it's not a safe place: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx023.htm
[10:27] <QueenVee> ZT on Iowa:
[10:27] <Typhon> i will check that out, ty
[10:27] <QueenVee> Lying between the Missouri and the Mississippi rivers, Iowa will find itself under water during the deluges that accompany the pole shift. It will take many weeks for the water to drain away, and due to the continuing rains, will find itself soggy for months and even years afterwards. As the soil is rich and the land cleared for farming, this will be considered an ideal site in the future as it will have a warmer climate a
[10:27] <QueenVee> Lying between the Missouri and the Mississippi rivers, Iowa will find itself under water during the deluges that accompany the pole shift. It will take many weeks for the water to drain away, and due to the continuing rains, will find itself soggy for months and even years afterwards.
[10:27] <QueenVee> As the soil is rich and the land cleared for farming, this will be considered an ideal site in the future as it will have a warmer climate and location central to the continent.
[10:28] <Typhon> ahh, i see..
[10:28] <Typhon> thanks...
[10:28] <QueenVee> It also is considered a benign state, with placid farmers content to reap the riches that the land delivers and with none of the feistiness that the residents of many other nearby states exhibit.
[10:28] <QueenVee> These advantages may doom it to be considered an attractive spot by the group of individuals who consider themselves a carry-on government, so those who would set up housekeeping in Iowa should bear this in mind.
[10:28] <QueenVee> Should Indiana fall out of favor, Iowa is not that far distant. However, the likelihood of being under water for an extended period of time will most likely put this spot out of favor.
[10:28] <QueenVee> end of quote
[10:28] <Typhon> maybe i will have to make plans then
[10:29] <QueenVee> yep
[10:29] <islander> catch you later
[10:29] <QueenVee> bye islander!
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[10:29] <Typhon> i havent stumbled upon that on the site yet
[10:30] <Typhon> how do i get there to figure out the safety of each state?
[10:31] <QueenVee> i thought you said you'd read the zetatalk site?
[10:31] <Typhon> yeah, i have
[10:31] <Typhon> i missed that part though
[10:31] <Jade4u> He meant that he hadn't seen the safe location section.
[10:31] <Typhon> yes.. thank u
[10:32] <QueenVee> There's a big link at the top of the home page that says SAFE LOCATIONS. When you click on it, you can get it as a pdf document, or as a regular web page; the web page is easier to navigate: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[10:33] <Typhon> oh wow, i see it now
[10:33] <Typhon> thanks!
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[10:35] <QueenVee> hello Jim
[10:35] <Jim> Hey queen
[10:35] <Jim> how you doing?
[10:35] <QueenVee> i'm good
[10:35] <Jim> thats good
[10:35] <QueenVee> remind me where you live, Jim...?
[10:35] <Jim> northeast ohio
[10:36] <QueenVee> right
[10:36] <Jim> i was here last night:)
[10:36] <QueenVee> there's someone who comes here by the name of Jim-Ben who lives in Malasia....
[10:36] <Jim> cool
[10:36] <QueenVee> ah, that explains why i don't have you on my list yet....
[10:36] <Jim> ah put me on
[10:36] <QueenVee> Jim, meet Typhon, he's new here as well...
[10:37] <QueenVee> lives in Iowa
[10:37] <Jim> hey Typhon
[10:37] <Jim> how you doing?
[10:37] <QueenVee> i just sent him off to read something, so he may not be back yet....
[10:37] <Jim> oh i see
[10:37] <Jim> so how been been doing queen?
[10:37] <Jim> been getting ready for planet-x
[10:38] <Jim> i meant so how u been doing queen
[10:38] <Jim> :)
[10:38] <Typhon> hey there jim
[10:38] <Jim> hey Typhon
[10:38] <QueenVee> Jade is also new, she's in Montana
[10:38] <Typhon> how are you doing?
[10:38] <Jim> pretty good
[10:39] <Typhon> me too.. but i must be going now
[10:39] <Typhon> i will stop back later today!
[10:39] <Typhon> g'day everyone
[10:39] <Jim> how long have you heard about planet-x Typhon?
[10:39] <QueenVee> Jim, Jade, and Typhon: if any of you want to be on my mailing list, for announcements about events in this channel....
[10:39] <Jim> c ya typhon
[10:39] <Typhon> bye
[10:39] <QueenVee> just give me your email address on a private channel
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[10:39] <QueenVee> and if you don't... well, never mind....
[10:39] <Jim> ok i will give you mine queen
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[10:40] <QueenVee> mmmmm
[10:42] <obaway> sigh someeon on tt-welcome using all caps to say something , that Nancy is being lied too etc etc ..
[10:42] <QueenVee> lord....
[10:42] <obaway> all those caps are very anoying
[10:42] <QueenVee> this stuff used to be taken off by the moderator, what gives these days?
[10:43] <obaway> i am already writing an email
[10:43] <QueenVee> hehe
[10:45] <QueenVee> thattaboy
[10:53] <Jade4u> What is a clientinfo?
[10:53] <obaway> eheheh go figure .. from the skepticalmind.com site ... sapph's journal
[10:53] <obaway> Tuesday
[10:53] <obaway> The webmaster of the Mid-Continent Railway Historical Society has informed me that the "Nancy" listed on the staff of his newsletter is NOT Nancy Lieder. He has also removed the archived copy of the newsletter which carried Nancy Lieder's advertisement. Skepticalmind has, of course, retained a copy of this newsletter and is safe-keeping it in the event it is needed for future evidence.
[10:53] <obaway> Jade4u: nothing
[10:53] <Jade4u> Ok
[10:54] <obaway> so that one link they well pointed to on sci.astro ain't working anymore.. but .. well saph still has that adres, phonenumber and emailaddy on his site
[10:55] <Jade4u> Nancy's info?
[10:55] <Jade4u> Isn't that illegal?
[10:56] <QueenVee> no, not illegal
[10:56] <Jade4u> That stinks.
[10:56] <QueenVee> obaway: future evidence of what? that she rented a cottage two years ago?
[10:56] <QueenVee> how bizarre
[10:57] <Jade4u> Yes, very.
[10:57] <obaway> that guy is wierd, queenvee
[10:57] * obaway is now known as obany
[10:57] <obany> sapph that is
[10:57] <obany> strange fellow
[10:58] <obany> this also can be used queen to visit his site if nessacery http://www.space.net.au/~thomas/quickbrowse.html
[10:58] <Jade4u> Does he come here?
[10:58] <obany> nope
[10:58] <QueenVee> Jade: this guy has been devoting years of his life to debunking nancy....
[10:59] <QueenVee> has a whole site devoted to it...
[10:59] <Jade4u> Strange that someone would make such an effort.
[10:59] <QueenVee> used to come here and try and get personal information on people, just so he could post it on his site
[10:59] <QueenVee> really sick
[11:00] <obany> well  i am glad he didn't mentioned my adress... would be very anoying
[11:00] <QueenVee> i think he still has me listed on his site under my mother's name! LOL!
[11:00] <QueenVee> what a dweeb
[11:00] <Jade4u> I feel sorry for Nancy, I'd feel very scared, with that info posted.
[11:00] <QueenVee> nancy is very couraeous
[11:00] <QueenVee> courageous even
[11:00] <QueenVee> she knew what she was getting into
[11:01] <obany> he even wanted to know my story why i take zetatalk serious .. and then put it on the web
[11:01] <obany> sigh
[11:01] <obany> but i never told him
[11:02] <QueenVee> obany: someone just emailed me complaining that they are not longer subscribed to tt-forums, and demanding to be resubscribed....
[11:02] <QueenVee> since when did i run tt-forums?
[11:02] <QueenVee> things get weirder by the day
[11:03] <obany> i don't know ... queenvee, well maybe they think it you do ...
[11:04] <QueenVee> well, yes, after all.... i am THE QUEEN
[11:04] <obany> ehehheehhe yes :P
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[11:05] <QueenVee> hello sher -- what brings you to this room?
[11:06] <sher> i dunno
[11:06] <sher> whats all this about
[11:06] <QueenVee> sher: please read the message that grees you when you enter the room:
[11:07] <QueenVee>  'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[11:07] <sher> i did
[11:07] <Jade4u> "Chat room restricted to those familiar with"
[11:07] <sher> so which continents are shifting
[11:07] <QueenVee> if you don't know what this is about, then you are obviously not familiar with and seriously preparing for....
[11:07] <QueenVee> get it?
[11:07] <QueenVee> bye sher
[11:07] <sher> lol
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[11:08] <sher> bitches!
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[11:08] <QueenVee> weird, weird, weird
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[11:17] <QueenVee> hey zetapal
[11:17] <Zetapal> Hi Queen
[11:17] <QueenVee> Typhon was here looking for you earlier....
[11:17] <Zetapal> Lucy Woodward - ever heard of her?
[11:17] <QueenVee> nope
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[11:17] <QueenVee> who is she?
[11:17] <Zetapal> singer
[11:18] <QueenVee> oh
[11:18] <Zetapal> omg - she's got I good tune - rocks - you up for a listen?
[11:18] <Zetapal> will send if you like
[11:19] <QueenVee> sure, ok
[11:20] <Zetapal> so you let Typhon back in ey?
[11:20] <obany> laters coffee
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[11:21] <obany> i will eturn later
[11:21] <obany> hi alpha
[11:21] <obany> ik ben er later weer
[11:21] <AlphA> hi heh
[11:21] <AlphA> u dutch:?
[11:21] <QueenVee> hello alpha, what brings you to this room?
[11:21] <QueenVee> obany is dutch
[11:21] <Zetapal> later mcCarthur
[11:21] <AlphA> dunno, heard a lot about it
[11:21] <QueenVee> Alpha: please note:
[11:21] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[11:22] <AlphA> ok ok
[11:22] <AlphA> bye.
[11:22] <QueenVee> bye
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[11:22] <QueenVee> i love it when they leave quietly
[11:22] <Zetapal> #EarthChanges
[11:22] <obany> ltrs
[11:22] <QueenVee> yep, i told him...
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[11:22] <QueenVee> thought, obviously, not quite as colourfully
[11:24] <Zetapal> ok, now this artist comes across as a very young chick, so you probably won't like that aspect of it, but give a listen to the dynamics of the song, the production values, and the sounf engineering, as far as pop goes, its good stuff
[11:24] <QueenVee> not really my style....
[11:25] <QueenVee> and the lyrics....
[11:25] <QueenVee> can't relate to that young romantic angst...
[11:25] <Zetapal> try to be open minded you old bitty
[11:25] <QueenVee> well, i'm listening to it....
[11:25] <Zetapal> your turning into your mother
[11:25] <QueenVee> can't help it if it doesn't grab me
[11:25] <QueenVee> i love Shania's new stuff
[11:25] <Zetapal> and if I grabbed you, you'd slap me
[11:26] <Zetapal> so there ya go
[11:26] <Zetapal> did you listen to that one Shania I sent you?
[11:26] <Zetapal> the one where she's a dead ringer for crystal gail?
[11:27] <QueenVee> mmm, don't think so....
[11:27] <QueenVee> what was it called, the file?
[11:27] <Zetapal> "You Lay a Whole Lotta Love"
[11:27] <Zetapal> I think
[11:28] <Zetapal> got a retro-country flavour - I love the tune
[11:28] <QueenVee> ah, okay, hold on
[11:28] <Zetapal> yeah, give THAT a listen, and tell me what you think ...
[11:29] <QueenVee> okay, it's on
[11:29] <QueenVee> oooooeeeee, yeah, very retro-country
[11:29] <QueenVee> shania's roots
[11:29] <Zetapal> Crystal Gail - no doubt ey?
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[11:29] <QueenVee> yeah, kinda
[11:30] <Jade4u> whoa pc blew up
[11:30] <QueenVee> sounds like a lot of big-hair singers from the past....
[11:30] <QueenVee> hi jade, wb
[11:30] <QueenVee> zetapal: this is jade, she's in montana
[11:30] <Jade4u> thanks
[11:30] <Jade4u> Hello
[11:30] <QueenVee> zetapal is in virginia, he runs the #earthchanges channel
[11:30] <Zetapal> there ya go - I was just gonna say - this song makes Shania's hair seem 3ft longer
[11:30] <Jade4u> ic
[11:30] <QueenVee> GREAT SONG, zp
[11:31] <QueenVee> have you heard the title track from UP?
[11:31] <QueenVee> i gotta get my mother that cd...
[11:31] <Zetapal> Hi Jade4me - want a song 4u
[11:31] <Jade4u> :)
[11:33] <Jade4u> brb
[11:33] <Zetapal> Queen - yeah - "UP" I don't like it much - its too formulated - and did you see her performance at the AMA the other night?  - yeesh - the worst yet - Shania is out-of touch - living in Zwitzerland and her marriage aint goin too good - she's caught up in the hype
[11:34] <QueenVee> no, it wasn't a good performance....
[11:34] <QueenVee> but where are you getting this stuff about her marriage?
[11:35] <Zetapal> it was kind of embarassing wasn't it? and thats kind of a first for Shania - she usually rips their guts out - THIS time its like SHE was the joke, paraded around for everyone else to laugh at, and like maybe she didn't realize it yet...sad
[11:36] <QueenVee> geez, zp -- everybody has an off day now and then
[11:36] <Zetapal> I got it from a website - a tabloid/gossip website
[11:36] <QueenVee> trust me, her career is far from over
[11:36] <QueenVee> oh puleeze
[11:37] <QueenVee> she's been appearing all over the place on canadian TV, and knocking everybody's socks off
[11:37] <Zetapal> I didn't say anything about her career being over - what up with that?
[11:37] <QueenVee> welll, what
[11:38] <QueenVee> what's your point?
[11:38] <Zetapal> I tell you what - sensing I have hit an unexpected nerve, I will disengage the topic
[11:39] <Zetapal> lets just say, I'm a fool and know nothing,OK?, that way eveybody is happy
[11:39] <Zetapal> :)
[11:40] <Zetapal> anyway, I gotta get back to my research - lots more to do, just wanted to drop in and offer something up, good day to you...
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[11:40] <QueenVee> bye zetapal
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[11:51] <QueenVee> hi tex
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[11:52] <tex-at-work> Not sure what that was all about
[11:53] <QueenVee> what?
[11:54] <tex-at-work> me logging on and off
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[12:45] <West_coast> hello
[12:46] <Jade4u> Hello
[12:46] <West_coast> quiet afternoon, I think
[12:47] <Jade4u> So far.
[12:47] <Dsarith> Hellow West_Coast
[12:47] <Dsarith> Yes, yes it is
[12:47] <West_coast> hello
[12:47] <West_coast> Jade: where in the world are you?
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[12:47] <Jade4u> MO:USA
[12:48] <West_coast> and Dsarith?
[12:49] <West_coast> hi merlin
[12:52] <merlin> hello
[12:52] <merlin> im not familiar, someone want to clue me in the whole poleshifting thing ;x
[12:52] <Dsarith> Sorry... I am from Dallas TX
[12:53] <West_coast> merlin: probably the best bet is to go to www.zetatalk.com and read
[12:54] <merlin> :o
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[12:55] <West_coast> Dsarith: where are you going for PS?
[12:57] <Dsarith> I am going to Colorado... It seems to be closest safest place for me
[12:58] <West_coast> Dsarith: plans in the works?
[12:59] <Dsarith> I have started gathering stuff and doing a lot of reading on survival skills... distilling water, plants that are safe to eat. etc
[12:59] <Dsarith> How about you?
[12:59] <West_coast> Going to eastern Wash...located "safe" site
[13:00] <Dsarith> Along the coast?
[13:00] <Dsarith> Is it safe from tsunamis
[13:00] <West_coast> No, east of the Cascade mountains
[13:00] <West_coast> west of the Rockies
[13:01] <Dsarith> Oh gotcha I will be on this side of the Rockies :-)
[13:01] <West_coast> coast is NOT safe
[13:01] <Dsarith> Have you started pulling supplies together
[13:01] <West_coast> yes, but it wasn't too easy
[13:02] <Dsarith> How are you going to transport your supplies?
[13:02] <West_coast> what kind of shelter are you going to have?
[13:03] <West_coast> made multiple trips in my van
[13:03] <West_coast> lots of hours on the road
[13:04] <Dsarith> Once PX is visible and I can convince my family to go :-) I am going to get them moving to the site and build a trench type setup
[13:04] <Dsarith> Aftermath will be searching a cave in that area
[13:04] <West_coast> dig a trench?
[13:05] <Dsarith> If there are not any now, which I dont know at this point, I am sure there will be
[13:05] <Dsarith> Dig a deep enough trench against the flow of water and cover it with metal anchoring the metal deeply to the ground
[13:06] <Dsarith> What have you thought of?
[13:06] <Dsarith> Object is to do something to get out of the wind
[13:06] <West_coast> think I may dig into hillside and park my van in it
[13:07] <West_coast> then build aftertime shelter
[13:07] <West_coast> sandbags and metal roof
[13:07] <Dsarith> Thats a good Idea too
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[13:08] <Dsarith> Someone asked in this channel I think, "What if PX doesnt come... How would you feel? So I will ask you
[13:08] <^> hey guys
[13:08] <West_coast> van would be for PS and should survive winds, firestorms etc (I hope)
[13:08] <West_coast> Dsarith: there is absolutely no question in my mind
[13:09] <Dsarith> I said that it doesnt matter with the world in the condition that its in now. A safe place is becoming more and more necessary
[13:09] <Dsarith> It seems to satisfy him
[13:09] <Dsarith> Hi ^*^
[13:09] <Dsarith> Or the other way
[13:09] <Dsarith> lol
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[13:10] <Dsarith> Hi <^>
[13:10] <Dsarith> Hi yggdrasil
[13:10] <Dsarith> I have to gather water distilling supplies still
[13:10] <West_coast> distiller is a good idea...wood heat?
[13:11] <Dsarith> Yip
[13:11] <West_coast> could be a pretty simple affair, I think
[13:11] <Dsarith> Best I can tell, it seems to be very easy :-)
[13:12] <West_coast> Dsarith: so, have you read all of zt material?
[13:12] <Dsarith> I am gathering my supplies right now, packing it in my RV and will be hauling it all up to the safesite at once
[13:13] <Dsarith> Yes, I think... It took me almost a week to do it
[13:13] <West_coast> I understand..lots to read and think about
[13:13] <Dsarith> Yes it is and I find that this idea is very polarized.
[13:14] <Dsarith> You either accept or you dont
[13:14] <Dsarith> My family thinks I am crazy
[13:14] <West_coast> true...and you either accept all or not
[13:14] <West_coast> my family is in denial too
[13:14] <Dsarith> Oh well, I told them that I will plan for them too and when its in the daylight sky then we can all go together
[13:15] <Dsarith> They agreed to this
[13:15] <Dsarith> So I think I am good :-)
[13:15] <West_coast> planned for four myself....so far just me...more to follow, I hope
[13:16] <Dsarith> I have planned for 6, but I am all alone in this
[13:16] <West_coast> what convinced you?
[13:16] <Dsarith> Fortunately, my family has the resources financially to gather supplies quickly when PX appears
[13:16] <Dsarith> It will be a race against time
[13:17] <West_coast> and other people, maybe
[13:17] <Dsarith> True... I dont know what really convinced me. It just clicked as being right... Does that make sense?
[13:18] <West_coast> Yes...definitely
[13:18] <Dsarith> I am very logical person so I fight myself to believe, but I believe
[13:18] <West_coast> part of you doesn't want to accept it, maybe
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[13:19] <West_coast> hi tex
[13:20] <tex-at-work> hey WC
[13:21] <Dsarith> Hi Tex
[13:21] <tex-at-work> how is your world today
[13:21] <tex-at-work> and how is Dallas
[13:21] <Dsarith> Good Tex... How about you?
[13:21] <Dsarith> Cold up there :-)
[13:21] <tex-at-work> fine now... windy and colder tomorrow
[13:21] <Dsarith> Or it due west of Dallas?
[13:21] <tex-at-work> getiing down in the teens tomorrow nite
[13:22] <Dsarith> Bad without a map :-)
[13:22] <tex-at-work> due west of dallas is right
[13:22] <West_coast> cold for that neck of the woods
[13:22] <Dsarith> Cool
[13:22] <Dsarith> Not unusual WC
[13:22] <tex-at-work> below normal tho
[13:22] <Dsarith> Yip
[13:23] <West_coast> my folks are in Marshall
[13:23] <tex-at-work> the record for today is 2
[13:23] <Dsarith> Marshall is beautiful place
[13:23] <Dsarith> Now that is cold :-)
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[13:24] <tex-at-work> the are saying 35mph winds to with the teens it will feel cold enouth
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[13:24] <West_coast> supposed to get cold up here too, next week
[13:24] <Dsarith> MO yes?
[13:24] <Dsarith> Its always cold up there
[13:25] <tex-at-work> and i already have weeds that need to be mowed in my front yard
[13:25] <Dsarith> Let PX take care of that :-)
[13:25] <West_coast> Washington State
[13:26] <Dsarith> Doh... Sorry that is right... Still its always cold up there...lol
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[13:26] <H1> you fucking nerd
[13:26] <H1> s
[13:26] <H1> get laid
[13:26] <H1> you fat fucks
[13:26] <tenshu> is that what you're all about is just getting laid?
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[13:26] <tenshu> and i'm not fat thnx.
[13:26] <Jade4u> I see what ^ brought in...
[13:26] <walt> I see H1 is trolling for a date
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[13:28] <West_coast> hi walt
[13:28] <walt> Hi
[13:28] <West_coast> how is everything south of Seattle
[13:28] <walt> ok
[13:29] <West_coast> walt: are you in survival mode already?
[13:29] <tenshu> i'm alla bout the poptarts.. yuumm brb
[13:30] <walt> Im always in survival mode
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[13:30] <tied2> hello
[13:30] <Dsarith> Hi Tied2
[13:30] <tied2> whats new?
[13:30] <tex-at-work> hey Tied
[13:31] <tied2> hey tex
[13:31] <Dsarith> Natta... did you get your box up and running
[13:31] <tied2> yes
[13:31] <Dsarith> Cool
[13:31] <Dsarith> I happy for you
[13:31] <tex-at-work> new... I'm sitting here thinking of going home and making a big pot of chili
[13:31] <tied2> I had to wipe it and start from scrtach
[13:31] <tied2> that sounds good
[13:32] <Dsarith> I want some chili
[13:32] <Dsarith> That is the only way to do it Tied2
[13:32] <tied2> Dsarith I'm glad I did tho.. it runs much better now
[13:33] <Dsarith> T2: The hard part is giving into the decision to whip it and start over :-)
[13:33] <Dsarith> The rest is easy
[13:34] <tied2> yep
[13:34] <tied2> it wasn't as bad as I thought
[13:35] <West_coast> I downloaded something nasty on my other computer..wiped the hard drive clean
[13:35] <Dsarith> lol... it never is.
[13:35] <tied2> I used this new package manager called Red Carpet and installed all my stuff pretty fast
[13:35] <West_coast> had virus protection and firewall, too
[13:35] <Dsarith> Awesome
[13:36] <Dsarith> No hardware conflicts
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[13:36] <tied2> west_coast yeah my girl fried got  viruses sent to her at once  and I don't care how good your protection is so are going to get thru at that volume
[13:37] <tied2> Dsarith no
[13:37] <Dsarith> Hi Bamzilla
[13:37] <Dsarith> Cool
[13:37] <tied2> opps 57 viruses at once
[13:37] <Dsarith> Yip lots of viruses
[13:38] <tied2> 17 got thru lol
[13:38] <Dsarith> lol... Ok your good up to 40 then
[13:39] <tied2> lol
[13:40] <tied2> the latest trick is to put them in the HTML header tag so this is no .exe file soon as you check your e-mail you got em
[13:40] <bamzilla> hm
[13:41] <Dsarith> Really...
[13:41] <Dsarith> That sucks
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[13:41] <bamzilla> that's better
[13:41] <bamzilla> I couldn't see tha name list, so annoying.
[13:42] <Dsarith> Yes it is
[13:42] <Dsarith> :-)
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[13:43] <West_coast> Dsarith: Good luck with your plans...C U all later
[13:43] <Dsarith> Ok WC
[13:43] <Dsarith> You too
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[13:44] <Dsarith> bamzilla, I take you have been here before
[13:45] <bamzilla> not really
[13:45] <Dsarith> Then what brings you in here
[13:45] <Dsarith> :-)
[13:45] <bamzilla> I had heard others mention the channel
[13:45] <bamzilla> and I have some interest in the subject matter
[13:45] <walt> others?
[13:45] <bamzilla> judit/ralf/jurian
[13:46] <bamzilla> I know a few people in here
[13:46] <juditness> bam :)
[13:46] <bamzilla> I dunno, just wanted to see what the channel was all about
[13:46] <Dsarith> What is your interest?
[13:46] <bamzilla> hi judit =p
[13:46] <bamzilla> sorta wanna know the view on the whole matter of the poles shifting
[13:46] <bamzilla> shrug.
[13:46] <Dsarith> Best I can tell there are two sides and people are pretty well polarized on the subject
[13:47] <Dsarith> This channel discusses preparations for Planet X, sharing ideas and thoughts. Also believe that Planet X is coming in May of this year
[13:48] <bamzilla> interesting
[13:48] <Dsarith> Other channels believe that its impossible and just as admantly as we here believe
[13:48] <Dsarith> www.zetatalk.com will give you this side of the belief
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[13:49] * bamzilla hides :(
[13:49] <Dsarith> WB QV
[13:49] <Dsarith> bamzilla obviously knows you :-)
[13:49] <QueenVee> hi Bamzilla: this is a private channel; can you please be courteous and leave?
[13:50] <bamzilla> ok, I'm sorry.
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[13:50] <QueenVee> thank you
[13:50] <Dsarith> Who is bamzilla
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[13:50] * ^ was kicked by QueenVee (^)
[13:50] <QueenVee> 'there we go
[13:50] <Dsarith> Cleaning house.... :-)
[13:51] <QueenVee> just came back from a long hike with the hound
[13:51] <QueenVee> it is VERY COLD
[13:51] <Dsarith> Ok so who is bamzilla and <^>
[13:51] <QueenVee> hope this cold spell passes soon, we've become unused to cold winters the last few years
[13:52] <Dsarith> It will I think you are shifting down closer to the equator soon :-)
[13:52] <QueenVee> couple of guys who come here now and then asking "what this poleshift thing is all about"....
[13:52] <Dsarith> Oh
[13:52] <QueenVee> and they get the same answer everytime...
[13:53] <Dsarith> Why do they bother
[13:53] <QueenVee> read www.zetatalk.com
[13:53] <Dsarith> What fun is it
[13:53] <QueenVee> ya got me
[13:53] <Dsarith> That is what I told them too
[13:53] <QueenVee> they want to listen to crazy people talk about planetX and aliens
[13:53] <Dsarith> Who is arcenic
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[13:54] <QueenVee> ??
[13:54] <QueenVee> we live in a voyeuristic society
[13:54] <Dsarith> Who is arsenik?
[13:54] <QueenVee> dunno
[13:55] <Dsarith> arsenik and bamzilla I think are the same person
[13:55] <Dsarith> arsenik signed in and the signed out and then bamzilla cam in
[13:55] <Dsarith> came in
[13:55] <QueenVee> you may be right
[13:56] <Dsarith> What time is it up there
[13:57] <QueenVee> just before 5pm
[13:57] <Dsarith> You are only an hour off from me then
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[14:05] <QueenVee> hello Bailey
[14:05] <Bailey> hi queen, I have a strange feeling today, I stoped in to see if anyone else sensed it,
[14:07] * tex-at-work going to the store for chili fixin's  
[14:07] <Dsarith> Enjoy Tex
[14:07] <Bailey> dont forget the beno ;O)
[14:07] <tex-at-work> lol... indeed
[14:07] <Dsarith> Here Here
[14:07] <Dsarith> Beno for all
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[14:08] <QueenVee> beno?
[14:08] <Bailey> gas med
[14:08] <Dsarith> Anti Gas med
[14:08] <Bailey> lol
[14:08] <QueenVee> bailey, what was your strange feeling?
[14:09] <QueenVee> oh, you mean Beano....
[14:09] <Dsarith> Yes
[14:09] <Dsarith> Beano
[14:09] <Bailey> like something is going to happen, heavy heart like grief
[14:10] <Bailey> I can't shake it, nothing out of the ordinary in my day, no reason for this strong feeling
[14:10] <QueenVee> Bailey: i had that feeling yesterday
[14:10] <QueenVee> last night in particular
[14:10] <QueenVee> to a degree this morning as well
[14:11] <Bailey> no hormone changes going on right now either, this is strange, like being on the verg of tears and i never cry
[14:12] <QueenVee> who knows....
[14:12] <Bailey> this happens to me when somthing bad is about to happen, many times before
[14:12] <QueenVee> yeah, me too
[14:15] <Bailey> bye bye, be well, I guess this is a time for prayerfull meditation, take care
[14:16] <QueenVee> bye
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[14:29] <QueenVee> hello PGill
[14:29] <PGill> hi
[14:29] <obaway> hi PGill
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[14:30] <Ogmios> hi
[14:30] <Ogmios> http://members.tripod.com/~DanyB/Paroles/Visions/Visions.html
[14:31] <QueenVee> hi ogmios
[14:33] <PGill> the iraq situation has really been bugging me lately....
[14:33] <PGill> its really starting to make me sick
[14:33] <QueenVee> yes, it's quite sickening
[14:35] <Ogmios> war will cause energy crisis
[14:35] <PGill> everyone talks about peace, yet they also say war is inevitable....but nothing, no action has even remotely warranted war
[14:35] <Ogmios> bad situation already here..becouse of the weather
[14:36] <PGill> Bush says it, must be for the best...
[14:37] <obaway> sigh
[14:38] <Ogmios> hi obany
[14:38] <Ogmios> you read those lyrics, gave a link
[14:39] <Ogmios> http://members.tripod.com/~DanyB/Paroles/Visions/Visions.html
[14:39] <Ogmios> shiver
[14:39] <Ogmios> song is about planet x for sure
[14:40] <Ogmios> it even talks about cross in the sky
[14:41] <obaway> i see i see
[14:42] <QueenVee> PGill: it couldn't be more obvious
[14:42] <QueenVee> it's about oil, pure and simple
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[14:43] <PGill> sure is
[14:43] <PGill> just think it is so disturbing when ppl wont stop and think about it for themselves
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[14:44] <obaway> look at what's going on with Korea ... ... The USA wanting a diplomatic solution
[14:45] <QueenVee> PGill: they'd have to examine a whole lot of stuff....
[14:45] * obaway is now known as obany
[14:46] <PGill> right
[14:47] <QueenVee> i'm more afraid of what the world will be like if the poleshift DOESN'T happen, than if it DOES....
[14:48] <PGill> yes, that could be VERY scary
[14:49] <QueenVee> obany: what does ZT say (if anything) about a magnetic poleshift?
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[14:52] <Valdrix> g'day
[14:52] <QueenVee> hello ygg
[14:52] <QueenVee> hello valdrix
[14:52] <QueenVee> yggdrasil: are you there?
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[14:53] <LochNess> i am sorry
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[14:54] <PGill> ?
[14:55] <yggdrasil> what
[14:55] <yggdrasil> hi
[14:55] <Valdrix> oh..sorry :) im here
[14:56] <Valdrix> oh.lol ya was talin to ygg
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[14:58] <obany> QueenVee:  Between pole shifts, however, there are slight movements of the magnetic North Pole, especially during the time just before and after a pole shift - approximately a hundred years on either side. Th
[14:58] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s27.htm
[14:59] <QueenVee> thanks obany
[14:59] <PGill> just read this on www.rense.com
[14:59] <PGill> Last Friday a friend of mine in California drove to his local supermarket with a sticker on his car saying: "Peace is also Patriotic". It was gone by the time he'd finished shopping.
[15:00] <QueenVee> ha
[15:00] <PGill> :\
[15:01] <obany> what's the **** use of war ..
[15:01] <LochNess> so i didn't get through a lot of what was on that site, but does this "pole shift" have anything to do with the hot summers and cold winters that have happened in the past 10 years?
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[15:02] <obany> LochNess: yes it has to do with the weatherchanges
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[15:02] <LochNess> hmmm
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[15:02] * LochNess reads more
[15:03] <juditness> heh
[15:03] <QueenVee> Lochness: this is a chatroom for those very familiar with the ZetaTalk material; you might want to go to #earthchanges and/or come back here when you
[15:03] <QueenVee> vyou've studied it a bit more
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[15:04] <QueenVee> thanks juditness -- what did he do to get killed?
[15:04] <juditness> i told him to leave this place and you guys alone
[15:04] <juditness> forever.
[15:05] <juditness> and stop inviting his friends here
[15:05] <obany> he has been here before too for what i know,, ask Jurian     ..
[15:05] <juditness> i know
[15:05] <juditness> but he hasn't called jurian a fag before
[15:05] <juditness> and hasn't pasted logs on different forums.
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[15:06] <QueenVee> hehe
[15:06] <QueenVee> oh yeah, those are definitely capital offences
[15:06] <juditness> Ness: leave.
[15:06] <LochNess> ok
[15:06] <QueenVee> juditness?
[15:06] <LochNess> judit, i wanna know what this is about
[15:06] <juditness> right
[15:06] <juditness> and where are you gonna post it?
[15:07] <LochNess> in my head
[15:07] <juditness> right.
[15:07] <juditness> whatever,
[15:07] <LochNess> ok, believe what you want
[15:07] <QueenVee> Lochness: you can find out about it at www.zetatalk.com
[15:07] <QueenVee> you don't need to come here
[15:07] <LochNess> i know
[15:07] <LochNess> it just rejoined
[15:07] <QueenVee> invite all your friends to read the site too
[15:07] <QueenVee> goodbye LochNess
[15:07] <LochNess> i have a few
[15:07] <LochNess> c ya
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[15:08] <QueenVee> la dee da
[15:08] <QueenVee> i just had the most DELICIOUS meal....
[15:08] <Ogmios> is this familiar: http://www.love-god.com/Nibiru.html
[15:09] <obany> i think i saw that site before yes
[15:09] <QueenVee> uh, whose site is that?
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[15:10] <juditness> ..
[15:10] <LochNess> could i possibly make one tiny comment really quick, pretty pretty please
[15:11] <LochNess> there was once a man, who said that on august 12, 2002, and noon, and huge meteor would come and hit the planet killing everything
[15:11] <LochNess> all humans would cease to exist
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[15:11] <QueenVee> juditness: could you get rid of him permanently if he comes back?
[15:12] <juditness> i will.
[15:12] <Ogmios> maybe elwood uses many names
[15:12] <QueenVee> ty
[15:13] <QueenVee> no, it's not elwood
[15:14] <obany> elwood uses a different ISP for what i know
[15:17] <obany> but shall we get back to business now
[15:17] <QueenVee> hehe
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[15:22] <Ogmios> hmmmm
[15:22] <Ogmios> +3C
[15:22] <Ogmios> wonder how warm it is daytime
[15:23] <Ogmios> can have -20 in one day..then 20 degrees less
[15:24] <QueenVee> yes, bizzare
[15:25] <obany> wierd
[15:25] <obany> and i heard well it was stormy too .. in Norway ..
[15:25] <obany> strong wind
[15:26] <Ogmios> its coming here
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[15:26] <Ogmios> very warm air..
[15:26] <QueenVee> hello tied
[15:27] <tied2> hello
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[15:28] <tenshu> ahh .. 1/15
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[15:33] <QueenVee> hello karmie, tenshu
[15:33] <karmie> hello
[15:34] <tenshu> heyy
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[15:45] <Ogmios> obany have you told anybody in your workplace
[15:45] <Ogmios> about this spring and poleshift
[15:47] <Ogmios> its hard for me to say my future plans ppl who dont know anything about px. can say maybe that i may die soonish..or somethinf
[15:48] <Ogmios> i hate lying
[15:48] <Ogmios> cant say i see glorious future ahead
[15:49] <obany> Ogmios: no, haven't mentioned it .. don't have much time to talk either .. when at my job ..
[15:49] <QueenVee> be back in a bit, gotta move my computer, reboot....
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[15:53] <Ogmios> need to go sleep.. bye goodnight
[15:55] <Ogmios> that snow caused work in the morning..cant get car out else
[15:55] <Ogmios> causes even
[15:55] <Ogmios> bye
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[16:01] <obany> !ban *!*@*.isd-holland.nl
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[16:01] <obany> !ban *!*@*.isd-holland.nl
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[16:14] <QueenVee> hello hello
[16:14] <islander> hello again
[16:14] <from_Texas> Hi QV
[16:15] <islander> how's the afternoon/evening going?
[16:15] <QueenVee> really good!
[16:15] <QueenVee> having success with the hound
[16:15] <islander> good
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[16:16] <obany> sigh see what sapph posted on sci.astro
[16:16] <obany> Subject :   Zeta Reticulan/Zetatalk flyer.  
[16:16] <obany> Date :   Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:16:59 -0500
[16:16] <obany>  
[16:16] <obany> Since you seem to be the proprietor of the primary site debunking the
[16:16] <obany> zeta reticulan conspiracy theory/hallucination, I thought I would
[16:16] <obany> point out to you that I found a flyer advertising zetatalk.com on
[16:16] <obany> Stony Brook University's campus.
[16:16] <obany> You can see it at:
[16:16] <obany> http://tom.idealog.info/blog/20030115-1042672292.blog.txt
[16:17] <QueenVee> geez, the flyer doesn't even sum up zetatalk correctly.... zetatalk doesn't ever suggest that the future can be changed....
[16:18] <islander> that's coming from the debunkers
[16:18] <obany> i know i know
[16:18] <QueenVee> islander: i think the houd was quite giddy with being allowed freedom to run and track (probably for the first time in his life); today he seemed to calm down considerably, came when i called....
[16:18] <islander> when in doubt, don't ask the source, read a review
[16:19] <obany> maybe the one who made the flyer .... misunderstood it ...
[16:19] <obany> but hey i go now nite and take care
[16:19] <QueenVee> nite obany
[16:19] <islander> bye
[16:19] <QueenVee> thanks for your help today
[16:20] <obany> :)
[16:20] <obany> bye
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[16:24] <islander> all is quiet qv, what were the hot topics of the day?
[16:24] <QueenVee> quiet news day, i've only posted a couple of things today....
[16:24] <QueenVee> looking for more as we speak...
[16:25] <islander> did you catch the ufo and tv screen story on Rense?
[16:25] <QueenVee> no....
[16:25] <QueenVee> got a link?
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[16:26] <islander> they show a series of characters on a tv screen that linguists couldn't id
[16:26] <islander> just a sec
[16:26] <QueenVee> hello greg
[16:26] <[]GregACNJ> Hi YA!
[16:27] <[]GregACNJ> Light crowd right now. Guess the west coast has checked in.
[16:28] <tenshu> i'm about to leave for a job interview =\
[16:28] <[]GregACNJ> I bet you can almost tell time by who's on the board.
[16:29] <QueenVee> tenshu: best of luck!
[16:29] <QueenVee> ha, that's true, Greg
[16:29] <tenshu> thanks :)
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[16:31] <QueenVee> hello Gof
[16:31] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[16:31] <Gof> I was wondering about the website?
[16:31] <QueenVee> what website?
[16:31] <Gof>  I was thinking of buy the rg4330 from reeves but I dont know how I would use it
[16:31] <QueenVee> and what about it?
[16:31] <Gof> troubled times
[16:32] <QueenVee> i've no idea what you're talking about
[16:32] <Gof> The water distillation portion of the troubled_times web site
[16:32] <QueenVee> do you have a link?
[16:34] <Gof> http://www.zetatalk.com/food/tfood062.htm
[16:34] <Gof> It talk all about condensing but I have no clue how I would use a water condenser
[16:35] <QueenVee> well, sorry, but i don't have any more information than what is provided there
[16:36] <QueenVee> islander: do you have a link for that Rense article?
[16:37] <islander> the page was taken down but I kept a copy, i'll put a pic on the web site
[16:37] <QueenVee> great
[16:38] <islander> curious as to why it would disappear, up for less than a day
[16:38] <QueenVee> 'mmmm
[16:39] <islander> it goes hand in hand with a ufo report over Deira, UAE
[16:40] <QueenVee> oh....
[16:40] <QueenVee> i read something about that being a hoax....
[16:40] <QueenVee> hold on
[16:40] <islander> Pictures were printed in the Khaleej newspaper
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[16:41] <QueenVee> islander: check out what appears at the top of this page: http://www.earthfiles.com/headlines.cfm?category=Headline+News
[16:43] <islander> the must be taking training in north american advertising methods, get out the search lights top draw them in
[16:43] <islander> :>
[16:43] <QueenVee> hey
[16:44] <islander> <g>
[16:44] <islander> now we know why it disappeared
[16:46] <QueenVee> yep
[16:46] <islander> unless the hoax story is the coverup?
[16:46] <islander> you never really no for sure
[16:46] <islander> know
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[16:47] <QueenVee> hello mad
[16:47] <Mad_Hatter> Greetings
[16:48] <from_Texas> how goes it MH
[16:48] <Mad_Hatter> Post on Florida "booms" was interesting.
[16:49] <QueenVee> indeed
[16:50] <Mad_Hatter> A rather warm day in AZ..went fishing today "practice" caught no fish... sardines tonight
[16:50] <QueenVee> yes, i heard about the warm weather in AZ.....
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[16:51] <from_Texas> sardines and crackers... may soon be a very good meal
[16:51] <QueenVee> Temperatures have been very warm in parts of Arizona recently. At Phoenix the mercury on Tuesday peaked at 25 Celsius, some 7 degrees above the January average. At nearby Tucson, it was even warmer at 26.8 Celsius, nearly 10 degrees above their average of 17 Celsius.
[16:51] <karmie> hi everyone
[16:52] <QueenVee> hiya karmie
[16:52] <karmie> :)
[16:52] <from_Texas> hi karmie
[16:53] <karmie> I saw on the news that the ice fishing houses in MN are sinking - no ice
[16:53] <from_Texas> yes karmie it's bad... but this cold spell should change that
[16:54] <karmie> I think so too - gotten colder here in CA the last few days
[16:56] <Mad_Hatter> Phoenix: Had to turn on the AC in the car today...was that warm...also "wierd" but the sun seems unusually hotter. Lets see 10F above normal for summer would make it ~ 1