Session Start: Sat Jan 18 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <[]GregACNJ> He might appreciate that book, too.
[00:00] <humvee> yes i love to use an ai sort of way o decoding myth
[00:01] <humvee> yes i m so multi-tasking i jus got the confirmation of purchase on signs/gilbrel
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[00:02] <humvee> Aaaa sory was on line ordering a book i jus meant our future is so incredibly intreaging how can u not want to embrace it?
[00:03] <Aaaaa> I do! What made you think other?
[00:03] <[]GregACNJ> good investment
[00:05] <[]GregACNJ> Ah, my philosphy in a phrase --- "Life should be Interesting!"  --- that also makes PX something to look forward to.
[00:05] <humvee> u just sounded so serious - wifw n I r looking @ ps as chance to do new & exciting things - yes Greg
[00:06] <wanderer> the chinese were spot on with their curse "may you live in nteresting times!"
[00:06] <Aaaaa> phone,just a sec...
[00:06] <humvee> Aaaaa have y planned to have hobby things and reading u want to do with u?
[00:06] <[]GregACNJ> We can afford that attitude better since ours lives are almost over anyway  :-)
[00:07] <humvee> wanderer i have that saying on my wall next to scallion new map o nothe america
[00:08] <humvee> we must hav all come here now 2 experience the interesting times
[00:08] <wanderer> i wonder if they saw anything like this happening again?
[00:08] <wanderer> or make our final decision sto/sts lol!
[00:09] <humvee> I think the chineese are so long memoryd they r waiting for their sunken citys to rise again
[00:09] <[]GregACNJ> could be. I'm not at all psychic but my life has been marked with some amazing Synchronicities!
[00:09] <humvee> wat is that word - lo
[00:09] <wanderer> like what? []GregACNJ?
[00:10] <Aaaaa> Hum, I'd like to got my sailboat thru the shift and its loaded with all the necessities as will as extras to enjoy life with.I have always thougt that life was an adventure to enjoy, why do you think I have such a young wife!
[00:10] <humvee> synchronicities?
[00:10] <wanderer> syncronicity means that 2 event appear to b rel8ed
[00:10] <humvee> oh u hav a young wife also rite on
[00:11] <Aaaaa> yes!
[00:11] <humvee> the ones my age cant stand up withouy one of thoes helper chairs
[00:11] <Aaaaa> I'm your age, I know!
[00:11] <humvee> i skateboard down the hill on my handstands
[00:12] <Aaaaa> !
[00:12] <humvee> bumer when i fall tho -LOL
[00:12] <wanderer> how xactly can you help da disorientated and confused when muddled yourself + minimal fisrt aid
[00:12] <humvee> live in tropics to stay fit
[00:13] <humvee>  but 2 fat anyway as love food
[00:13] <[]GregACNJ> 1961 -- between Hawaii and CA, I as CIC Watch Officer turned to my ECM operator and told him to 'look around' at other frequencies we weren't assigned to guard. Just to break the monotony. About 3 minutes later he piced up a MAYDAY from a pilot who bailed from an F8 Crusader at 20,000. His EJECTION SEAT and shoot didn't open but he survived.
[00:13] <[]GregACNJ> 1963, that is
[00:13] <Aaaaa> if no shift I'm on my way to the sun!
[00:14] <wanderer> thats pretty cool
[00:14] <humvee> good plan Aaaaa  - wow Greg i was coast guard dragged out soggy sailers n towed their boats back in
[00:15] <humvee> jus gae away mp seaplane kit as no time 2 build now
[00:15] <humvee> will build a glider later
[00:16] <wanderer> Aaaaa, u could use your boat for fishing couple metres out from land
[00:16] <Aaaaa> I'm trying out a Paraglider
[00:16] <wanderer> catch more fish dat way
[00:16] <humvee> building a steam boat first so i can trade bewtween islands of the americas
[00:16] <Aaaaa> Deep water fishing
[00:17] <wanderer> how ya supposed 2 launch glider
[00:17] <humvee> the best but all fishing is good
[00:17] <Aaaaa> walk a paraglider off a cliff
[00:18] <humvee> will tow launch then catch thermals then add a alchol engine later
[00:18] <Aaaaa> Mahi Mahi!
[00:18] <wanderer> i want to drag little canoe thru 2 catch me sum fish
[00:18] <humvee> ono
[00:18] <Aaaaa> o yes!
[00:18] <humvee> (good eating)
[00:18] <Aaaaa> :)
[00:19] <[]GregACNJ> Yeah, I looked him up on the internet 2 years ago. Thay said his face looked like calf liver when they got him. Much more to the story -- he flew for Delta for 37 years. He survived because he was driving and drinking in flight school in BEEVILLE, TX and killed two buddies. Becuase he was behind the wheel, he lost his spleen but survived. That's what ultimately saved his life from 20,000 feet.
[00:19] <wanderer> but trying to carry canoe mountains could be prob, might look a little silly
[00:19] <Aaaaa> we all look silly
[00:19] <wanderer> boat but no water for miles
[00:19] <Aaaaa> yet.....
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[00:20] <humvee> once jumped high w/small air btl - too cold 4 me
[00:20] <Aaaaa> would love to be anchored in the hills above Lahaina
[00:21] <wanderer> lol yeah i gotta remember rise of approx 675 ft
[00:21] <humvee> like slow low flying mostly 4 the view and getting above it all feeling
[00:21] <Aaaaa> you paraglide Hum?
[00:21] <humvee> Aaaaathere is a dj in maui local family planing 2 b ready
[00:22] <humvee> jus hookes a girl fm alaska new 2 maui w/him
[00:22] <Aaaaa> KOAP?
[00:22] <humvee> didnt ask him but sounded rite on it
[00:23] <wanderer> one thing on my side - west coast of my continent goes under     raise east so more land stays above water
[00:23] <humvee> I fly ultralites or will again & perpetually go 4 flying lessons
[00:24] <Aaaaa> I sky dive but prefer floating up there
[00:24] <humvee> lessons in fbo type of schools make u lern landings now since 911
[00:24] <Echo> Hi, I'm sitting in China. Is this poleshift matter widely known in the states?
[00:24] <Aaaaa> I bet!
[00:24] <wanderer> hv- see if ya can spot other from ur ultralite
[00:24] <wanderer> other survivors
[00:25] <humvee> Echo hello - no not widely but we r seeing the incoming planet x w/ small scopes now
[00:25] <Echo> thanks humvee
[00:25] <humvee> slac ppl 4 echo
[00:25] <wanderer>  echo  depends on ppl handl facts re planetX
[00:25] <[]GregACNJ> no, it's strictly fringe, but it doesn't really matter if it turns out to be real because of the tendency of human to practice denial. k?
[00:26] <humvee> have u read the www.zetatalk.com/ website Echo?
[00:26] <Echo> Yeah, I'm following this things quite a time
[00:27] <wanderer> denial only worx cause of split brains
[00:27] <[]GregACNJ> so women practice denial less than men. I think NOT!
[00:27] <wanderer> hybrid good in that there brain worx 2gether
[00:27] <humvee> very good it looks very real we are worried for our friends in china as not all the nuc power planst will be shut down in time there 2 avoid meltdown
[00:29] <Echo> humvee, I gess nowbody has to be worried. I think that everybody will feel also some kind of guidance and will know somehow what to do, right?
[00:29] <humvee> also much of china is low and the excesive rains after and the approx 675' rise over 2 years of sealevel will flod coasts ans back up some rivers yangsee
[00:30] <Aaaaa> will be very cold there too
[00:30] <humvee> yes 2 a degree but you will have 2 find a safe location
[00:30] <Echo> Yeah we have also plenty of mountains. Gess there is always some safe place to find
[00:30] <humvee> you will also hav 2 have rice or whatever food for some time as the growing will be very sparse due 2 volcano gloom
[00:31] <Echo> You know chinese are used to eat everything what moves and is somehow jewable
[00:32] <humvee> the safe locations page on zetatalk talks re: China true you ppl doo very well indeed
[00:32] <[]GregACNJ> Echo, don't tell anyone! Part of the plan is to reduce the World's population to a managable size and China is a big part of that problem
[00:33] <Echo> If you dont have a good safe place I invite you over here
[00:33] <humvee> i hope that is a joke greg - i would love to visit Echo
[00:33] <Echo> Will not talk to anybody greg. Dont worry, we will leave a corner for u
[00:34] <Echo> Ok, humvee come over
[00:34] <humvee> ever since pres nixon's visit with all color photos of china it is a prised destination
[00:34] <[]GregACNJ> I hope so cause the Chinese are much smarter than anyone else. It's a fact!
[00:34] <Echo> In deed
[00:35] <Echo> you seee it on our economy
[00:35] <humvee> the size of your growing economy is amazing
[00:36] <Echo> Bushs activity is amazing too
[00:36] <humvee> the closeness of your ppl 2 the land will be a big advantage after the pole shift
[00:36] <humvee> here ppl think that chickens grow in the back of stores
[00:36] <[]GregACNJ> That may be my solution. Marry a tough Mongolian woman and move to Nebraska.
[00:37] <Echo> lol
[00:38] <humvee> how is your internex availibility there can ppl get on the net
[00:38] <humvee> i heard that sites were screened and selectively blocked
[00:39] <Aaaaa> Echo, where in China are you?
[00:39] <Echo> sure, everything is open and free, maybe more free then anywhere else
[00:39] <humvee> thats good 2 hear
[00:39] <Echo> in Beijing
[00:39] <Aaaaa> ok
[00:39] <Aaaaa> you a student?
[00:39] <[]GregACNJ> So I'm new to mIRC. How do you check a person's isp or can only an @op do that? Not related to Echo, but how else can you check a person's true location?
[00:40] <Echo> No, thats behind me
[00:40] <Aaaaa> you know english very well
[00:41] <Echo> Yeahm more and more people study english. We are a WtO member and need that
[00:42] <humvee> we here in this chat room seem to be all ages or professions
[00:42] <Echo> whats your profession, humvee
[00:43] <humvee> yes the wto has many critics as supporters but is excelent for international understanding and trade
[00:43] <humvee> i m a builder and artist
[00:44] <humvee> i combine my art with construction
[00:44] <Echo> sounds interesting
[00:44] <[]GregACNJ> mostly retired at this time of night
[00:44] <Echo> Tired or retired, greg?
[00:45] <Aaaaa> Greg, Echo is Webchat@61.135.112.137
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[00:46] <humvee> Echo must be 6:50 am your time?
[00:47] <Echo> no we have 4:45 pm
[00:48] <humvee> oh my time map is a bit hard to see bejing
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[00:48] <Echo> we are seven hours ahead of europe
[00:48] <Ogmios> hi
[00:48] <Echo> Hi ogmios
[00:49] <humvee> hello Ogmios  were talking with echo who is in Bejing China
[00:49] <Ogmios> hi echo
[00:49] <Echo> Hi again
[00:49] <Echo> Got a safe corner ogmios?
[00:50] <[]GregACNJ> Thanks
[00:50] <humvee> I am in hawaii but i am considering going to the mainland usa 4 the shift
[00:50] <ukuz_zzz> hi
[00:50] <Ogmios> i am in finland
[00:50] <Echo> Gess this is a wise decision humvee  
[00:51] <[]GregACNJ> How'd you do that? My whois doesn't seem to work.
[00:51] <humvee> hi cuzz
[00:51] <ukuz_zzz> hey
[00:51] <ukuz_zzz> whats new?
[00:51] <Ogmios> safe during poleshift but low land..so need to relocare
[00:51] <Ogmios> relocate
[00:52] <Echo> Look for a high tree ogmios
[00:53] <ukuz_zzz> where would be a good place on the mainland to realocate?
[00:53] <Echo> The best is a high tree with plenty fruits on it
[00:53] <ukuz_zzz> hehe
[00:54] <Echo> And bees and butterfies
[00:54] <humvee> looking @ Minnesota as will b little changes good fishing hunting technology isolated sparse pop and much warmer (like so
[00:54] <humvee> fflorida)
[00:55] <ukuz_zzz> is FL sort of close to sea level?
[00:55] <ukuz_zzz> I have an uncle there
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[00:55] <Echo> humvee, you want to go to florida? Gess it's a bad idea
[00:55] <ukuz_zzz> oh
[00:55] <ukuz_zzz> heh
[00:56] <humvee> no going Minessota will hav a climaTE LIKE FLORIDA HAS NOW
[00:56] <humvee> EQUATOR IS CHANGING BECAUSE OF THE 90 DEGREE SHIFT
[00:56] <Echo> The highest mountain in Florida has about 2 meters as I know
[00:57] <ukuz_zzz> hmm...
[00:57] <humvee> u r rite florida and india will be no more
[00:57] <ukuz_zzz> as I remember, Hawaii is going to be at pivot points when the shift occurs...is that right?
[00:58] <Echo> No clue
[00:58] <humvee> ukuz left here all will share the rice bown and none r buying any food
[00:58] <humvee> bolw
[00:58] <ukuz_zzz> i see...
[00:59] <ukuz_zzz> well, theyll be fish to catch, I hope
[00:59] <humvee> yes we (hawaii) will b rite on the new equator
[00:59] <humvee> plenty more fish than now yes
[00:59] <ukuz_zzz> thats a good thing...
[00:59] <Echo> guys, was nice talking to u. Have to go back to my homework
[00:59] <ukuz_zzz> study hard Echo
[00:59] <ukuz_zzz> :)
[00:59] <humvee> byu echo
[01:00] <Echo> I will
[01:00] <Echo> By
[01:00] <ukuz_zzz> later on dude
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[01:01] <obany> was a little to later with checking
[01:01] <humvee> all rite that was fun thanks 4 the slack re echo  any body know what that chat@61.135.112.137 means?
[01:01] <Aaaaa> thanks anyway!
[01:02] <Aaaaa> do you OB?
[01:02] <humvee> obany
[01:02] <Aaaaa> HUM, hes been in here under other names befor
[01:03] <humvee> do u think is fm china or burbank ca?
[01:03] <obany> moment guy
[01:03] <Aaaaa> USA
[01:03] <Aaaaa> email:Webchat
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[01:04] <obany> just fill in 61.135.112.137 over here http://www.fr1.cyberabuse.org/whois/?page=whois
[01:05] <obany> click on ok and it will show you
[01:05] <humvee> ok thanks
[01:06] <humvee> also i cant seem 2 turn on my whois feature in mirc (someone else got that whois 4 me)
[01:06] <Aaaaa> :)
[01:06] <humvee> :-)
[01:07] <ukuz_zzz> I found an abandon tunnel (2 feet thick concrete) in the mountains nearby that was used for communications during WW2.
[01:08] <ukuz_zzz> i wonder if its strong enough?
[01:08] <wanderer> stay away from that tunnel during the shift - collapsing structures and all
[01:09] <ukuz_zzz> hmm...
[01:09] <wanderer> the Zs say mt weather, gov hideout underground will collapse
[01:10] <wanderer> geuss that applies for all underground tunnels
[01:10] <[]GregACNJ> [ Informations about 61.135.112.137 ]
[01:10] <[]GregACNJ> IP range : 61.135.0.0 - 61.135.255.255
[01:10] <[]GregACNJ> Network name : CHINANET-BJ
[01:10] <[]GregACNJ> AS number : AS4808
[01:10] <[]GregACNJ> Infos : Chinanet Beijing Province Network
[01:10] <[]GregACNJ> Infos : Data Communication Division
[01:10] <[]GregACNJ> Infos : China Telecom
[01:10] <humvee> i think high up over 1000' and dug in but not in anything that can collapse
[01:10] <[]GregACNJ> Phone number : +86-10-66027112
[01:10] <[]GregACNJ> Country : CN
[01:10] <[]GregACNJ> Abuse contact : hostmaster@ns.chinanet.cn.net
[01:10] <[]GregACNJ> Source : APNIC
[01:10] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p49.htm
[01:11] <wanderer> use that tunnel as a semi perm home after shift if it hasnt collapsed
[01:11] <wanderer> it should help shelter u from continual drizzal
[01:11] <ukuz_zzz> well, so much for that tunnel of mine...heh
[01:11] <ukuz_zzz> :D
[01:11] <Aaaaa> Greg, so he was in China
[01:11] <humvee> true think u should have provisions there or short walk
[01:12] <ukuz_zzz> agreed
[01:13] <humvee> almost everything is low on oahu for the main infrastructure
[01:13] <wanderer> hide privisions a short walk away you can still access them
[01:13] <humvee> you will be a permanent camper just like your foreberaers who lived very well off the land there
[01:13] <wanderer> but where they wont be found by unfriendly types
[01:14] <wanderer> remmember animals hugry good sense o smell
[01:14] <ukuz_zzz> i can imagine the feeding frenzy
[01:14] <ukuz_zzz> :(
[01:14] <humvee> zippys = :-)
[01:14] <ukuz_zzz> cool
[01:14] <ukuz_zzz> hehe
[01:15] <ukuz_zzz> that'l work...
[01:15] <wanderer> u could use the hidden food to lure animals 4 ur dinner
[01:15] <humvee> only dogs near the tunnel - lo
[01:16] <humvee> still black dogs r mighty good barbqued
[01:16] <Aaaaa> gotta zzzzz g'nite!
[01:16] <wanderer> cya
[01:16] <humvee> bring lot o secret sauce
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[01:17] <ukuz_zzz> aysos
[01:17] <ukuz_zzz> :D
[01:17] <wanderer> i am trying to make a map to try and figure where survivor camps will be located - go and visit them later
[01:18] <humvee> i cant even imagine the mess hawaikai washed out my mom lives kapiolani n unviersity might as well be in waikiki is rite by the alawai canal
[01:19] <humvee> she retires fm kapiolani hosp in march maybe hope
[01:19] <ukuz_zzz> at least she can drive up the mountains short distance away
[01:19] <[]GregACNJ> sorry Aaaaa left -- he might have connected THROUGH China or ...
[01:20] <humvee> true n she knows as i send her pic o px weekly
[01:20] <ukuz_zzz> maybe wedge the car in a ditch
[01:21] <wanderer> hawaii  real vulnerabl 2 sloshing oceans
[01:21] <humvee> Greg i think he was fm china as his eng had some o the clasics but was prob a buss man or buerocrat
[01:21] <ukuz_zzz> im planning to be at least above 1000 ft above sea level
[01:21] <wanderer> how hi them mountains in hawaii?
[01:22] <ukuz_zzz> i hope its enough
[01:22] <humvee> yes best plan  -  the q i asked got posted re safe loc hawaii new info was conforting
[01:22] <ukuz_zzz> Hum's got the Waimea Canyon nearby
[01:23] <ukuz_zzz> thats pretty high up
[01:23] <[]GregACNJ> hv -- please let me know when you figure out the mIRC whois.
[01:23] <ukuz_zzz> ought to be pretty safe up there
[01:23] <humvee> yes as in kekaha at the foot of the hill = nat hist museum will accomodate ps survivors @ 3500'asl
[01:24] <humvee> Kokee state park
[01:24] <ukuz_zzz> yup
[01:24] <wanderer> what bout volcanoes in hawaii?
[01:24] <humvee> hav u scouted the hills of oahu
[01:24] <ukuz_zzz> hard to say
[01:25] <ukuz_zzz> no
[01:25] <humvee> yes i dont know re oahu
[01:25] <ukuz_zzz> but i know how to get to the highest mountain
[01:25] <ukuz_zzz> Mt Kaala
[01:25] <wanderer> avoid places where memries of volcanoes
[01:25] <humvee> by waianae
[01:25] <ukuz_zzz> yes
[01:26] <humvee> use 2 fly over fm Dillingham in glider
[01:26] <ukuz_zzz> must have been nice
[01:26] <ukuz_zzz> i used to work up at Kaena point
[01:26] <ukuz_zzz> 10 years
[01:26] <wanderer> hv - that nat hist museum might be destroyed by earthquake
[01:26] <humvee> oh nat guard
[01:26] <ukuz_zzz> radar station
[01:27] <humvee> oh
[01:27] <ukuz_zzz> civilian contractor for Air Force
[01:27] <humvee> the bldgs there r of local lite construction
[01:27] <ukuz_zzz> Holow tile
[01:27] <humvee> so jus pick up the pieces after n make a small house
[01:28] <humvee> no wood cabins single wall
[01:28] <humvee> jus bring hammer n nails
[01:28] <ukuz_zzz> youre right
[01:28] <wanderer> what is the tallest mountain w current sea level
[01:28] <ukuz_zzz> lots of trees surrounding them
[01:29] <wanderer> how bout hammock suspended in trees
[01:29] <humvee> om kauai is 5000'asl  but the safest place is @ kokee lodge @ 3500' bit o a valley bet hills
[01:30] <wanderer> good luck!
[01:31] <ukuz_zzz> looks like Kokee would be good during the high winds
[01:31] <humvee> thanks we r working with the ps aftertime committe here in hawaii but some of us are sliding to mainland 4 the shift as half o family fm east coast
[01:32] * obany is gong to drink some coffee
[01:32] <ukuz_zzz> (gulp...)
[01:33] <wanderer> that east coast of US in bad shape - expanding atlantic, quick death
[01:33] <humvee> yes u can contact Marsha Wakefield at the kokee nat hist museum 4 plans re polehsift weekend or email me humvee@hawaiian.net
[01:33] <ukuz_zzz> wow, she is on it huh?
[01:33] <humvee> sounds like a bake out or something - LOL
[01:34] <humvee> Marsha knows and is aware that the week of the shift ppl will be upo there she has seen the site but is waiting as most to see it in the newspapers
[01:36] <ukuz_zzz> it'll be mobbed
[01:36] <humvee> we r both nicheran shoshu budists and i went with an advisory group 4 a meeting re 2003 pole shift last year with her
[01:36] <ukuz_zzz> the Buddist church is preping?
[01:37] <humvee> i really dont think many will know or even move up there when it gets dark here ppl will sit n wait 4 FEMA to show up!
[01:37] <ukuz_zzz> they'll be camping out too
[01:37] <ukuz_zzz> heh
[01:38] <humvee> We r preping the whole group when we can bring them pictures o px
[01:39] <ukuz_zzz> someone in hawaii has got to be looking for it with a telescope
[01:39] <humvee> the imaging thjis week is almost that good so it will be in FebruaRY 15TH OR SO N WE WILL COUNCIL WITH THE HAWAII LEADERS ON pALI hIGHWAY RE NOTIFICATION
[01:39] <humvee> sorry re caps
[01:40] <ukuz_zzz> Buddist church on Pali Hwy?
[01:40] <ukuz_zzz> where exactly?
[01:40] <humvee> we r borrowing the 6" orion telescope for imaging but px is still 4 bil miles so no real time pics 4 2 more weeks
[01:41] <ukuz_zzz> would a bigger diameter see it now?
[01:41] <ukuz_zzz> (amateur size)
[01:42] <humvee> in phone book Nicheran Shoshu about 10 blocks up from pali turn to go up towards other windward side
[01:42] <ukuz_zzz> ok
[01:42] <humvee> yes but good lens mirror 6" is not too shabby
[01:42] <ukuz_zzz> that should be easy to find
[01:43] <humvee> since will b able to see it w/out a scope 4 weeks later
[01:43] <humvee> can u rent a telescope in honolulu?
[01:43] <ukuz_zzz> never checked on it
[01:44] <humvee> if u get time try call a camera store re renting c wat they say
[01:44] <ukuz_zzz> ok
[01:44] <humvee> steveh who is getting the pics on Troubled  Times zt isrenting his 10"
[01:45] <humvee> let me know
[01:45] <ukuz_zzz> wonder if Mauna Kea would be any better for that 10"
[01:46] <humvee> wel is my bed time now - midnite byye for the nite hummer
[01:46] <ukuz_zzz> ok let you know on that scope
[01:47] <humvee> as far as i know fed funds keep mauna kea fm looking there on amature nites
[01:47] <ukuz_zzz> restricted area?
[01:47] <humvee> if u hav a contact @ observatory go for it  -  bye
[01:47] <ukuz_zzz> actually my working partner knows someone there
[01:47] <ukuz_zzz> ok see ya
[01:48] <humvee> just busy n noticed not to let ppl in 2 look "THERE"
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[01:51] <wanderer> ukuz_zzz      as we get closer to da shift the feds will probably b 2 busy
[01:52] <wanderer> it might b possible 2 get a look without getting caught
[01:52] <ukuz_zzz> the economy would be their priority
[01:52] <ukuz_zzz> i think
[01:52] <wanderer> xactly
[01:53] <wanderer> so that pal might be able to disobey orders
[01:53] <Ogmios> poor australia
[01:53] <Ogmios> they are melting
[01:53] <wanderer> why? only if u live on da west cost
[01:54] <wanderer> only bout couple o ppl + few kangaroos, etc
[01:54] <Ogmios> you from australia?
[01:54] <wanderer> whats taht about aust melting?
[01:54] <wanderer> yeah
[01:54] <Ogmios> +45c in sydney
[01:54] <ukuz_zzz> antartica?
[01:55] <ukuz_zzz> oh
[01:55] <Ogmios> bush fires
[01:55] <wanderer> it seems that they might have been deliberately lit
[01:55] <wanderer> a friend said they circled all o sydney (da fires)
[01:56] <obany> eeeussssss hot ... sigh ... okay brb ... going to a shop now
[01:57] <wanderer> it might b easier to get food after the shift on the e coast
[01:58] <wanderer> with all the animals headin east as the west tilts
[02:00] <Ogmios> seems logical..yea
[02:00] <wanderer> how safe are the rest of u?
[02:01] <Ogmios> i am quite safe..atleast during the shift
[02:02] <Ogmios> raising waters aftertime..so i need to move to sweden
[02:03] <wanderer> according 2 Zs safe locs east coast o aust + nz lookin pretty good
[02:06] <Ogmios> yep..they go up..
[02:15] <wanderer> i read about sweden in the safe locs and it sounds real safe
[02:16] <wanderer> make sure that you stay in the mountains for the week or 2 after the shift
[02:16] <wanderer> till the tides return 2 normal
[02:18] <wanderer> looking at a map of how the geography might look after the shift, seems you will have nice conditions overall
[02:20] <wanderer> have the others on the list figured out their shift locations?
[02:21] <wanderer> looks like i am mainly typing messages 2 myself
[02:22] <obany> no you ain't
[02:22] <obany> :)
[02:23] <wanderer> have you found your safe loc yet?
[02:24] <obany> interresting email
[02:24] <obany> have a moment
[02:25] <obany> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-welcome/message/4077
[02:25] <obany> wanderer: you asking me ?
[02:25] <wanderer> whatcha mean? interesting email?
[02:25] <wanderer> you the only other person typing
[02:26] <obany> wanderer: well i will move away from the Netherlands ... that's what i can say right now
[02:27] <wanderer> where to?
[02:29] <obany> well still deciding ... i prefer Sweden but a friend of mine prefers Germany ..
[02:30] <Ogmios> germany more crowded
[02:30] <wanderer> check out the safe locs posted @ www.zetatalk/info/tinfx025.htm
[02:30] <wanderer> that is 4 sweeden
[02:30] <obany> i know i know i know i know what it states
[02:31] <obany> says
[02:32] <wanderer> www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx019.htm   this is 4 germany
[02:32] <obany> i have read that one too .... that's why i prefer Sweden
[02:33] <obany> i could say that i know zetatalk from tip to toe (?)
[02:34] <wanderer> does that leave any room in your brain for other stuff, or is it too crowded in there?    lol
[02:35] <wanderer> :)
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[02:38] <obany> wanderer: enough room :)
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[02:39] <Layberinthius> wait, dont kick
[02:39] <Layberinthius> ive got some evidence of light bending
[02:39] <Layberinthius> http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993282
[02:39] <Layberinthius> What is more, he said, it should be possible to measure the effect, and hence gravity's speed, by watching how Jupiter's gravity bends background light.
[02:39] <Layberinthius> "Jupiter's gravity bends background light."
[02:39] <Layberinthius> =P
[02:41] <obany> who said i was going to kick you
[02:41] * obany kicks Layberinthius :P
[02:43] <obany> yes zetatalk also speaks about light bended by gravity for what i know
[02:44] <Layberinthius> wooho
[02:44] <Layberinthius> o
[02:45] <wanderer> Layberinthius    watch out for the tilting indo-australian plate
[02:45] <Layberinthius> im on the east side
[02:45] <Layberinthius> so ill be lifted up
[02:45] <Layberinthius> if it happens...
[02:46] <wanderer> in any case, plan to have a camping trip around that time
[02:49] <wanderer> thaat way you should b out of the road of falling buildings
[02:57] <wanderer> i looked at the moon and it was orange, can anyone else see a orange moon???
[02:58] <obany> it's light here ...
[02:59] <obany> so i can't see the moon yet
[03:00] <obany> there some discussion on tt-watch moment
[03:01] <obany> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/12249
[03:01] <obany> you can follow the thread
[03:05] <wanderer> the Zs said that an amateur astronomer discovered another moon orbiting earth, know anything about it?
[03:05] <Layberinthius> heh, nope
[03:06] <Layberinthius> ive never seen any large objects out there =P
[03:06] <Layberinthius> other than mars, which is quite spectacular =)
[03:07] <wanderer> mars dont exactly orbit earth,  do you know were one could find mars in the sky?
[03:07] <obany> wanderer if you have a moment
[03:08] <wanderer> whats up?
[03:09] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p163.htm
[03:09] <obany> about that new moon
[03:10] <wanderer> thanx
[03:10] <Layberinthius> well of course it dont =D
[03:10] <Layberinthius> if it did we'd be on there quicksmart =P
[03:10] <Layberinthius> ahh, how i wish we were orbiting mars or it orbited us =)
[03:13] <wanderer> we can't get near the moons of mars as the 12th planet hominids have a mining base there!!
[03:13] <Layberinthius> oh noo!!!
[03:14] <Layberinthius> peh
[03:14] <Layberinthius> how silly =D
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[03:15] <obany> layb is well skeptical
[03:16] * obany brb
[03:18] <wanderer> the link from that url you gave said that it is the third moon around the earth (designated   J002E3)   the second is called "cruithne"
[03:22] <obany> i know ... i read that too
[03:38] <wanderer> did I miss nancy and the zetas on the #zetatalk channel?
[03:39] <obany> nah
[03:40] <wanderer> when is it?
[03:40] <obany> in some 11 hours or so
[03:40] <wanderer> oh
[03:41] <obany> 10 hours
[03:41] <obany> 10 hours and 20 min
[03:43] <wanderer> thanx - i thought that i had missed it
[03:43] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/index/z01.htm
[03:43] <obany> there also will be on this channel prior to the #zetatalk one
[03:44] <obany> in less then 9 hours from now
[03:44] <obany> at 20:30 UTC
[03:46] <obany> i will return later
[03:46] <obany> laters
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[04:40] <from_Texas> morning RN
[04:40] <rnthomas> Evening....
[04:41] <rnthomas> Just thought I'd poke around a bit before I get me some sleep...
[04:41] <rnthomas> Anything new and exciting?
[04:41] <from_Texas> not here
[04:42] <from_Texas> just getting ready to head out for the morning... saw you and thought i would say hi
[04:42] <rnthomas> Lost about 5 amalgam fillings today... 2 weeks I get ride of the other 6 fillings...
[04:42] <rnthomas> Heading out to work?
[04:43] <from_Texas> being a judge at a speech contest today
[04:43] <rnthomas> Sounds like fun...  Hope you can stay awake!! he he lol
[04:43] <from_Texas> it will be fun...
[04:45] <rnthomas> Well I hope so... What are the speeches about?
[04:45] <from_Texas> all sorts of things.. they pick their own topics
[04:46] <from_Texas> i need to hit the showers.. talk to you later
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[04:46] <rnthomas> Ok, I think I'm gonna hit the hay as well... TTFN...
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[07:10] <Ogmios> i'm losing amalgan fillings too
[07:10] <Ogmios> next wednesday
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[07:31] <wandersoul> hello
[07:33] <wandersoul> anyway one talking today?
[07:36] <wandersoul> lively bunch today
[07:38] <wandersoul> ok then bye nice not chatting with ya
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[08:02] <obaway> just bought the only time collection - 4 CD's by enya ...
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[08:05] <obaway> celtic - new age like music ...
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[08:08] <obaway> going to drink some tea
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[08:20] <QueenVee> hello sam
[08:20] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[08:20] <sam> morning
[08:21] <sam> I have a zeta question
[08:21] <QueenVee> ok...
[08:22] <QueenVee> what's the question?
[08:22] <sam> I am confused by statements in zetatalk that seem to suggest that since the transformation vote that only STO are being allowed to incarnate. Is this correct?
[08:24] <QueenVee> After the poleshift, only STO will be allowed to incarnate ON EARTH. Those entities that are UNDECIDED will be allowed to incarnate on third-density worlds well lessons of orientation are still being learned, and STS entities will be allowed to incarnate on STS-only worlds
[08:25] <QueenVee> are you still confused?
[08:25] <sam> But what about incarnations occuring at THIS time?
[08:25] <QueenVee> none of that applies to incarnations occuring right now
[08:25] <sam> OK, thank you!
[08:26] <QueenVee> np
[08:26] <QueenVee> how long have you been following zetatalk, sam?
[08:27] <sam> since Nancy's first Art Bell interview
[08:27] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in?
[08:27] <sam> utah, usa
[08:28] <QueenVee> not a bad place to be during the shift
[08:28] <Ogmios> hi
[08:28] <QueenVee> hi ogmios
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[08:32] <Kain> 'Mornin Shifters!
[08:32] <QueenVee> hello Kain
[08:32] <Kain> whats the news?
[08:32] <QueenVee> well, at least you didn't call us shifty...
[08:33] <Kain> :)
[08:36] <Kain> so.. what do you make of those strange booming sounds they're hearing in Florida and India?
[08:41] <Kain> "Earth groans?"
[08:43] <QueenVee> yes, ZT calls them earth noises
[08:43] <Ogmios> it was +5C today
[08:43] <Ogmios> hot hot hot..
[08:43] <QueenVee> would you like to the link to the section that discusses them?
[08:44] <QueenVee> Ogmios: still -16C here
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[08:48] <Ogmios> bush fires in australia..again
[08:49] <Ogmios> canberra is in great danger
[08:49] <QueenVee> yes
[08:51] <obaway> :/
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[08:56] <Ogmios> my friend want to leave australia..becouse the heat
[08:57] <QueenVee> yeah, can't blame him
[08:57] <Ogmios> she ;)
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[09:05] <obany> understandable.. you said it was like 45+ or so  
[09:05] <obany> sigh
[09:05] <QueenVee> yep, that's hot
[09:06] <Ogmios^> plus..hard wind
[09:07] <obany> moment:
[09:07] <obany> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-welcome/message/4082
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[09:09] <QueenVee> obany: i think this guy has got it all mixed up
[09:10] <QueenVee> there was a story about penguins in those zoos doing endless laps around their pools all of a sudden, but i've not heard anything about them escaping the zoo.... i mean.... how would they do that?
[09:10] <QueenVee> it doesn't make sense
[09:10] <obany> well yes i know about that one story too
[09:10] <obany> but someone else on tt-welcome or tt-watch mentioned it too about Brazil
[09:11] <QueenVee> okay, hold on
[09:11] <obany> or was it on welcome
[09:11] <obany> ah the same guy
[09:11] <Ogmios^> interesting..as brazil will be new north pole
[09:12] <obany> but i didn't read a thing or so about this ..
[09:12] <QueenVee> this is the only penguin story that appears in a google news search: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/17/national/17PENG.html?ex=1043557200&en=f6a7166e008b9617&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
[09:12] <obany> no news nothing
[09:13] <QueenVee> probably some newscaster made a joke about the penguins swimming away, when reporting on the other story, and this guy has it all mixed up
[09:13] <obany> maybe so ...
[09:17] <obany> i think he misheard it ...
[09:17] <obany> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/17/tech/main536931.shtml
[09:17] <obany> For some reason the Penguins, which have spent most, if not all their lives in captivity, suddenly have come to believe they are back home in South America and its time to migrate to Brazil.
[09:18] <obany> i found it by searching on the moreover.com site
[09:19] <obany> it still is odd behaviour of course
[09:20] <obany> but no where i read that they escaped
[09:20] <QueenVee> ah, so that's where he got it from; weird how people mis-hear things
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[09:21] <obany> and there are several breeds of penguins, and for what i know, there is one breed that lives in southern America
[09:23] <obany> QueenVee: http://p.moreover.com/cgi-local/page?o=profportal&client_id=profportal&feed=256 simply subsribe it's easy ... you can search for news here too  ... and this is the link to the natural dissaster page ... but also has news about other topics
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[09:26] <tenshu> haha i still can't stop laughin from this.. anyone miss it?
[09:26] <tenshu> http://cicatrix.fragland.net/smurf/frodo_has_failed.jpg
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[09:26] <sotos> hello
[09:26] <obany> i  get the clue
[09:27] <obany> :)
[09:27] <tenshu> bush: PRECIOUSSSS
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[09:31] <West_coast> hello
[09:32] <QueenVee> hi wc
[09:32] <QueenVee> tenshu: that's funny
[09:32] <West_coast> hi QV
[09:35] <tenshu> yeah it is lol
[09:35] <tenshu> i enjoyed it
[09:39] <West_coast> bb for session
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[09:47] <QueenVee> hello sahir
[09:48] <sahir> greetings
[09:48] <QueenVee> have you been here before, sahir?
[09:48] <sahir> Many times, actually longer than you have
[09:48] <sahir> Just never have much to say
[09:49] <QueenVee> well, that's not likely, seeing as this is my chatroom and didn't exist before i was here....
[09:49] <sahir> Sorry, thought I was on #Troubled_times
[09:49] <sahir> You are correct then
[09:49] <QueenVee> :-)
[09:50] <QueenVee> so you are here for nancy's zetatalk session later today?
[09:50] <sahir> I try and log in to catch the session to read it later
[09:50] <sahir> Seems I logged in a little early today
[09:51] <obany> like 2 hours and 40 minuts to :)
[09:51] <sahir> Oh, you're riding head on two channels at once O?  You must be talented
[09:52] <sahir> Course you have been doing this for quite some time now
[09:53] <QueenVee> sahir: actually, i'm the moderator of this channel
[09:53] <sahir> Oh- guess I can't get the #Troubled_times thing straight
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[09:53] <QueenVee> hi tied
[09:53] <sahir> guess that's why I don't say much - can't ever get my story straight
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[09:54] <tied2> Hi
[09:58] <Ogmios^> http://www.smh.com.au/
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[10:00] <tied2> Ralf ?
[10:01] <QueenVee> hello JohnJ -- what brings you to this room?
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[10:02] <JohnJ> Queenvee - curiosity.  
[10:02] <JohnJ> Queenvee - I'm fairly new at IRC
[10:04] <tied2> Queen how do you set for no outside pvt messages
[10:04] <QueenVee> well, curiosity seekers  are free to attend nancy's ZetaTalk Session (which begins in 2-1/2 hrs), but only those familiar with and serious about ZetaTalk are allowed in here at any other time
[10:04] <QueenVee> so, please come back in 1-1/2 hrs, John
[10:04] <QueenVee> 2-1/2 hrs, i mean
[10:04] <tied2> never mind I got it
[10:05] <QueenVee> tied2: could you tell me then?
[10:05] <tied2> he he
[10:05] <QueenVee> John: i'm asking you politely....
[10:05] <JohnJ> Queenvee, Is this the Starchamber?  Im'm not doing anything wrong.  
[10:06] <QueenVee> bye John
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[10:07] <tied2> rats didn't work
[10:07] <QueenVee> well, John, you've just earned yourself a ban from the ZetaTalk session. thanks for being considerate.
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[10:11] <obany> brb :)
[10:12] <sahir> Queen - got a chuckle out of last session
[10:12] <QueenVee> how so?
[10:13] <sahir> I remember I was trying to send you a question and never really came up with one
[10:13] <sahir> Turns out the real question I had was answered in teh session
[10:13] <sahir> and I nver asked it
[10:13] <QueenVee> what was the question and answer?
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[10:13] <QueenVee> hello edude
[10:14] <tied2> QV you have to use the /ignore command for no outside Pvt's
[10:14] <edude> hello queenvee
[10:14] <QueenVee> thanks tied
[10:14] <sahir> Question was something to the affect of what to do if you're in a situation that the people around you would obviously not work in a survival group
[10:15] <sahir> And the answer was rather succint - you leave them
[10:15] <sahir> Now that is the Reader's Digest version mind you, but in IRC, the short version is preffered anywyas
[10:16] <QueenVee> yep, as simple as that
[10:16] <QueenVee> one has no obligation to those unwilling to work cooperatively
[10:16] <sahir> So tell me something
[10:16] <sahir> about these pictures
[10:17] <sahir> Have you happened to see any raw format files before they get posted to the web?
[10:17] <QueenVee> sahir: i'm the wrong person to ask about the pics. i have no expertise in that area whatsoever.
[10:18] <sahir> Not asking about that, just asking if you've seen them before they hit the web
[10:18] <QueenVee> answer: no
[10:18] <sahir> OK.  Me niether.  Was curious as they don't seem to post well
[10:24] <sotos> QV: How many questions you have to ask Nancy every time? how many this time?
[10:25] <QueenVee> there's no set number
[10:25] <QueenVee> obviously she can only answer so many
[10:25] <QueenVee> within the time allotted
[10:25] <obany> but the question has to be important to alll you know
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[10:29] <Jenny1> hi all
[10:30] <QueenVee> hello Jenny
[10:30] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel is about 2 hrs. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider (i.e. do NOT send it to me privately).
[10:30] <Jenny1> hi queen things are very quite here
[10:30] <QueenVee> yep, quiet today
[10:30] <QueenVee> so far
[10:30] <Jenny1> ok i will do
[10:31] <sotos> Does somewhere inside ZT says why the "earth twin" is Dead? anyone know?
[10:31] <Jenny1> im a new believer to all this so excuse my ignorance all
[10:32] <sotos> What they mean Dead?
[10:32] <QueenVee> sotos: can you find the link where it says that?
[10:33] <sotos> http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s37.htm
[10:33] <sotos> last paragraph
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[10:34] <QueenVee> hello justme
[10:34] <justme> hi
[10:35] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel is about 2 hrs. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider (i.e. do NOT send it to me privately).
[10:35] <Jenny1> i dont have a question but i would like to say something about it all
[10:35] <obany> i will back a little later :)))      
[10:35] <obany> Jenny1: check the topic
[10:35] <QueenVee> okay Jenny
[10:36] <sotos> Twin should be as earth... if they are from the same origin ..
[10:36] <Jenny1> Well i would just like to say that I think that nancy and all you guys should keep up the good work
[10:36] <justme> bye all
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[10:37] <sotos> During the period when the Earth was knocked out of her initial orbit by a clash with one of the 12th Planet's travelers, the Earth found an orbital niche around the Sun that was appropriate for her size and composition
[10:38] <QueenVee> thanks Jenny
[10:38] <Jenny1> Sure thing :)
[10:40] <sotos> If earth twin is Dead.. then something is missing from the story..
[10:41] <Jenny1> will nancy be on tonight?
[10:41] <QueenVee> sotos: well, i don't think there's anything mysterious about it; some planets/stars die out for a variety of reasons....
[10:41] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel is about 2 hrs.
[10:42] <Jenny1> thank you so much queen, but will she be here herself
[10:42] <QueenVee> Jenny: i've answered that question
[10:43] <QueenVee> how would it be her sessions if she wasn't here herself?
[10:43] <Jenny1> Oh sorry
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[10:44] <QueenVee> hello DaveyBoy
[10:44] <_DaveyBoy_> Hello
[10:45] <_DaveyBoy_> Is Nancy going to be in here lately?
[10:45] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 2 hrs. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider (i.e. do NOT send it to me privately).
[10:45] <_DaveyBoy_> I thought that Nancy was going to be talking in #zetatalk?
[10:45] <QueenVee> she does two sessions on saturday, one here, then one in #zetatalk
[10:47] <QueenVee> Jenny & Davey: how long have you been following zetatalk?
[10:47] <_DaveyBoy_> I see, are both sessions very similar in nature?
[10:47] <_DaveyBoy_> About 2 years.
[10:47] <QueenVee> no, the sessions are very different
[10:48] <QueenVee> this session is more strictly moderated, and questions focus on preparation for the poleshift and aftertime
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[10:49] <_DaveyBoy_> I see.
[10:49] <QueenVee> hello Mulder. Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 2 hrs. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider (i.e. do send it to me privately).
[10:50] <Mulder> Hi Queen et al.
[10:50] <Jenny1> i  am more new to zeta t5alk i was introduced by davey
[10:50] <QueenVee> ah, i see
[10:50] <_DaveyBoy_> I want everyone to see the light.
[10:50] <QueenVee> where do you live, davey?
[10:51] <_DaveyBoy_> In a flat.
[10:51] <Jenny1> we are in the Uk
[10:51] <_DaveyBoy_> So I don't know if that helps in the end times or not. I still don't know it all.
[10:52] <_DaveyBoy_> It's quite sturdy so it may withstand the earthquakes better.
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[10:52] <Jenny1> i hope so we have 4 kids
[10:53] <QueenVee> what's quite sturdy?
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[10:53] <QueenVee> hello Boy
[10:53] <QueenVee> helly superzod
[10:53] <sotos> :) don't be so sure about it Daveyboy.... better go on the highest mountain around
[10:53] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 1hr, 45 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider (i.e. do send it to me privately).
[10:53] <_DaveyBoy_> The flat we live in.
[10:54] <BoY> hi QV
[10:54] <QueenVee> Davey: if you've read ZetaTalk, you know that it is not safe to be in any building, no matter how sturdily built, during the poleshift
[10:54] <_DaveyBoy_> No high mountains around here, the UK is fairly flat.
[10:54] <QueenVee> nor is it safe to be in any city
[10:54] <sotos> Alps appear to be safe !
[10:55] <_DaveyBoy_> The Alps are a tad chilly...
[10:55] <Jenny1> Are there any other people from the UK here maybe they have built bio-domes, and we could join up and make a camp
[10:56] <QueenVee> i wouldn't count on piggy-backing on to others who have prepared; you have to make your own preparations
[10:56] <Jenny1> We plan to but it would mean saftey in numbers i thought if we made a camp it would be better
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[10:56] <_DaveyBoy_> I am making preparations, I've got food rations stashed away ready to take with me. Just don't know where to go.
[10:56] <QueenVee> hey karmie
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[10:56] <karmie> queen - good morning
[10:57] <QueenVee> Davey: read the Safe Locations document on ZT
[10:57] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 1hr, 45 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider (i.e. do send it to me privately).
[10:57] <_DaveyBoy_> But they are so far away, how would we possibly get to them and remain viable until the shift happens?
[10:57] <QueenVee> what are so far away?
[10:57] <_DaveyBoy_> The safe locations.
[10:58] <_DaveyBoy_> Far from the UK.
[10:58] <QueenVee> well, there are relatively safe locations within the UK
[10:58] <Jenny1> We dont have long to plan for it and i am so worried for my children
[10:58] <QueenVee> you just need to find the highest elevation near you
[10:58] <_DaveyBoy_> Ben Nevis
[10:59] <Jenny1> If thats what it takes i will do it
[10:59] <_DaveyBoy_> What about when the Earth's surface becomes molten, what should we do?
[10:59] <Jenny1> i just pray and hope i am one of the chosen ones to go on to the next level
[10:59] <obany> has been explained alrady ..
[10:59] <_DaveyBoy_> Hallelujah
[10:59] <QueenVee> Jenny: chosen ones to go to the next level? what are you talking about?
[11:00] <_DaveyBoy_> I missed the explanation obany, there is a reference somewhere I trust?
[11:00] <_DaveyBoy_> To the 4th density existence.
[11:00] <QueenVee> what makes you think the earth's surface will become molten?
[11:00] <Jenny1> sorry i explained it wrong i am new to this sorry
[11:00] <_DaveyBoy_> If the poles shift beneath the surface, the resultant friction would cause the surface to become molten. Friction creates heat, the molten core is huge and the friction would be monumental.
[11:01] <QueenVee> Davey: ZetaTalk indicates that will not happen; try and keep your questions within the context of what ZetaTalk is predicting
[11:01] <Jenny1> I know nancy will show us the way
[11:01] <sotos> DaveBoy: Not everywhere...
[11:01] <QueenVee> Jenny: uh, no she won't
[11:02] <_DaveyBoy_> It IS supposed to be a physical shift of poles which means the molten core must move yet the surface is predicted to stay stationary, hence a lot of friction between core and surface = a lot of heat indeed.
[11:02] <Jenny1> i hope she will or we are all doomed to die
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[11:03] <QueenVee> Jenny: ZetaTalk provides very clear practical advice on how to prepare. if you follow that advice, you should be okay. nancy is not some kind of "saviour", nor are the zetas. this isn't a religion
[11:03] <obany> we must save ourselfs ... and that has been exlained
[11:03] <QueenVee> hello omicron
[11:03] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 1hr, 45 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider (i.e. do send it to me privately).
[11:03] <_DaveyBoy_> I agree.
[11:03] <omicron_orionis> hey
[11:03] <_DaveyBoy_> hey
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[11:04] <Jenny1> So what do we hope to hear from nancy tonight?
[11:04] <sotos> Friction will mostly hapen on the plates connections.. UK doesn't have any of them.. is one piece
[11:05] <QueenVee> Jenny: she will answer whatever questions we have on the agenda
[11:05] <obany> check here http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p162.htm
[11:05] <QueenVee> or, rather, the zetas will
[11:05] <_DaveyBoy_> Yes, but it would also occur beneath any landmass that remains stationary while large amounts of molten metal move quickly beneath the surface, wouldn't you say?
[11:05] <obany> davey: we are not here to discuss that ... just check that link that i just gave
[11:06] <Jenny1> ok thank you
[11:06] <_DaveyBoy_> Thank you for supplying the link, obany.
[11:07] <obany> enough now about this ...
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[11:07] <Jenny1> so what are some of the questions that are to be put to the zetas tonight?
[11:07] <_DaveyBoy_> Yes Sir.
[11:07] <QueenVee> there are no questions on the agenda yet
[11:08] <Jenny1> ok
[11:08] <obany> and if you folks keep talking about friction etc, there won't be an agenda
[11:08] <obany> so let's stick to the topic please
[11:08] <QueenVee> Jenny & Davey: you've had your fun kids -- time to go home to bed now. see ya.
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[11:10] <obany> okay back to the topic now
[11:11] <obany> guess we will have some dorks in tonight ....  
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[11:11] <obany> i will keep my eye on the ZT channel too of course
[11:11] <QueenVee> hi HBO
[11:12] <QueenVee>  FYI: A ZetaTalk session with Nancy Lieder will begin in #poleshiftdiscussion in about 90 minutes. The moderator is currently considering questions for the agenda. To get there, simply type the following and hit enter:  /join #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:12] <QueenVee> woops
[11:12] <QueenVee> ignore that
[11:12] <HBO> hi all
[11:12] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 90 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider.
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[11:14] <Nightbird> Hi Queen.. Hi everyone
[11:14] <karmie> hi nightbird
[11:14] <Nightbird> I have been trying to find an article I saw in the paper yesterday online.. but can't seem to find it
[11:14] <Nightbird> I wanted to ask about it
[11:14] <QueenVee> what was it about?
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[11:15] <Nightbird> Seems 52 penguins in the San Francisco zoo have been swimming around in circles when they usually are in their roost this time of year.
[11:15] <Nightbird> They drained the water from their pool.. and the penguins jumped in anyway and walked around in circles
[11:15] <QueenVee> yeah, heard about that. obviously trying to respond to a message from nature to get the hell outta dodge
[11:16] <Nightbird> yeah.. I was wondering if it was ude PS related or if it was a signal about a Big One coming
[11:16] <QueenVee> both, no doubt
[11:16] <QueenVee> though probably more related to climate change
[11:16] <Nightbird> they say animals act strnage when an earthquake is coming
[11:16] <Nightbird> strange
[11:17] <Nightbird> probably.. it said they had just taken some penguins from Sea World from Ohio
[11:17] <obany> okay about hwat kind of topic can we ask
[11:17] <Nightbird> and that was when the commotion started
[11:18] <obany> pole shift, hybrids, transformation, awakening, aftertime
[11:18] <karmie> nightbird - here is a link - don't know if it's the same one or not:  http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/news/state/4969410.htm
[11:18] <Nightbird> Ok, Thanks Karmie
[11:19] <Nightbird> hey thats the story.. thank you
[11:19] <obany> okay let's ask some questions now
[11:19] <obany> all this chit chat is not going to work :)
[11:19] <Red> Hi all
[11:20] <QueenVee> obany: relax -- if we have no questions for nancy, then we simply won't have a session; i'm sure nancy will appreciate the break
[11:20] <karmie> obany - I would like to know more about New Mexico as a place to relocate - not all of the state is desert -
[11:20] <obany> well yes okay .... but why is there no one ?
[11:20] <QueenVee> karmie: please try and formulate a specific question about the area; one that hasn't already been answered in the Safe Locations document
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[11:21] <phoam> wooo
[11:21] <QueenVee> hello FullMoon. Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 90 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider.
[11:22] <obany> brb
[11:23] <phoam> What is the true intention of the px aliens?
[11:23] <QueenVee> well, how about if we ask the zetas the most obvious question: WHEN CAN WE EXPECT MORE DEFINITIVE PICS OF PLANETX?
[11:23] <Nightbird> I wish I could think of something for you.. Queen
[11:23] <phoam> or that
[11:24] <QueenVee> phoam: the "true" intentions?
[11:24] <phoam> Yea, are they helpful? or here to dominate?
[11:24] <QueenVee> what are the ostensible intentions?
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[11:24] <Nightbird> Phoam.. they cannot harm us.. they are quarantined
[11:24] <phoam> well dang
[11:24] <QueenVee> phoam: zetas are not the PX aliens
[11:24] <FullMoon> Q for Z's:  Suggestions on how to best protect horses during the poleshift.  Perhaps small stalls in a sturdy low building on a raft foundation?  We have 14 horses SE of the Great Smokey Mountains in a small valley at 2600ft SL.  Thank You.
[11:24] <Nightbird> you won't see them
[11:24] <phoam> i didn't say that
[11:24] <QueenVee> the inhabitants of PX are the annunaki, and they are quarantined from earth
[11:25] <phoam> ok good
[11:25] <QueenVee> FullMoon: already answered. protect animals same as you would humans. get them into shallow covered trenches, lying flat on the ground.
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[11:25] <phoam> like a ditch
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[11:25] <Nightbird> or a dugout
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[11:26] <phoam> heheh
[11:26] <phoam> How long does she chat for?
[11:26] <Spanky_> is the jan10 analysis done yet?
[11:26] <QueenVee> phoam: one hour
[11:26] <FullMoon> QV You are not going to get horses to lay dowm.  They will panic and thrash about seriously injuring themselves.
[11:26] <sotos> QV: I find it intresting too..about the pics
[11:26] <phoam> Yea, something shows up.. kinda like an S shape
[11:26] <QueenVee> spanky: dunno, check out the PLANETX SIGHTINGS section of ZT site
[11:27] <QueenVee> FullMoon: well, i'm sure you know more about horses than nancy and the zetas, then. bottom line, you have to get them out of the way of danger. have you considered tranquilizers?
[11:28] <Nightbird> Full Moon.. I would suggest getting a bulldozier or a scaper to dig out a large depression in the soil and put up sheet iron overhead.. perhaps tie up the horses in there..
[11:28] <QueenVee> FullMoon: is there any existing material on what people do with horses during other kinds of natural disasters? hurricanes, earthquakes, etc?
[11:28] <QueenVee> nightbird: that sounds like a good idea
[11:28] <justme> can't they suffocate while lying down?
[11:28] <QueenVee> a large pit rather than a trench for each horse
[11:28] <FullMoon> QV:  Also they are claustrophobic (sp?) and tranqs are not the answer either as they are short lived or can cause a worse reaction.
[11:28] <Nightbird> no.. horses lie down all the time
[11:28] <Spanky_> oh well, if you eat alot of McDonalds, you are probably used to eating horesemeat.
[11:29] <phoam> mmm.. horsemeat..
[11:29] <phoam> Buffalo is damn good
[11:29] <QueenVee> phoam: don't be an asshole
[11:29] <Jurian> hmm, you are mistaken :p
[11:29] <justme> only vegs and fruits
[11:29] <Jurian> mcdonalds doesn't have meat in their 'food'
[11:29] <Jurian> just cardboard and rubber
[11:29] <phoam> Are you a vegen?
[11:29] <QueenVee> if you haven't got something to offer for the agenda, kindly stay quiet
[11:29] <justme> yes
[11:29] <phoam> oh ok.. sorry
[11:30] <Spanky_> seriously though, a horse will be seen as 6 months of food to aftertime people
[11:30] <QueenVee> FullMoon: maybe this is a good question, then....
[11:30] <phoam> Oh yes.
[11:30] <FullMoon> NightBird  We are in a fairly active EQ zone.  Have you ever seen a horse lie down in a moving trailer?
[11:30] <QueenVee> FullMoon: Let me see how we could phrase it....
[11:30] <Nightbird> cattle would be a bit harder to manage than horses
[11:30] <phoam> Uh, no.
[11:31] <phoam> You either tranq them.. or knock them out with a stick.
[11:31] <phoam> Which would be hard.
[11:31] <Nightbird> No, FullMoon I haven't.. but you can tie them up under the overhead.. best I can offer
[11:31] <phoam> Hmm..
[11:31] <justme> can't stay although I wish I could! have a war protest meeting to go to!
[11:31] <sotos> QV: at least when we will be able to use an amature 3-5' telescopes..
[11:31] <phoam> that's what i was wondering
[11:32] <phoam> i started to look with mine
[11:32] <Spanky_> bush wont go to war with iraq anyway.
[11:32] <QueenVee> FullMoon: how about this: ZT has provided a lot of information about how humans can protect themselves during the hour of the shift. But can those living in the country protect large domestic animals such as horses and cows, who are both claustrophobic and difficult to get to lie down?
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[11:32] <phoam> Just let them go free, some will surely survive.
[11:33] <FullMoon> justme:  Adult horses will suffocate after hours of being on their sides.  They must lay on their bellys.
[11:33] <QueenVee> FullMoon: you do realize that the shift itself will only last an hour....
[11:34] <Spanky_> this poleshift is supposedly worse than the last 50, 000 years. For example, antarctica has been in a polar location and avoided by humans for quite some time.
[11:34] <phoam> Oh, that's it? heh
[11:34] <Spanky_> but now its being moved to a tropical location.
[11:34] <QueenVee> FullMoon: are you happy with the wording of the question above?
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[11:35] <phoam> What is the chemical composition of dark matter. Surely the Z's would know.
[11:35] <Nightbird> Spanky, did you know there are maps with Antartica ice free?
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[11:35] <Nightbird> 17,00 year old maps..
[11:35] <phoam> I just have to know..
[11:35] <QueenVee> phoam: why do you want to know that? how will it help you to prepare for the poleshift and aftertime
[11:35] <Nightbird> 17,000 rather
[11:36] <FullMoon> QV:  you may change the wording as you see fit to make it more applicable to others as well.
[11:36] <phoam> You never know. Science would advance later on and that could change the course of history.
[11:36] <QueenVee> FullMoon: but does it address your particular concern?
[11:36] <Spanky_> yes but nancy said no humans had been to antarctica.  maybe giants went there though.  
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[11:37] <QueenVee> phoam: please limit your questions to relevant ones
[11:37] <phoam> Simple questions?
[11:37] <FullMoon> QV:  just saw your wording.  it is good.  Thanks
[11:37] <obany> some questions are better for the other channel
[11:37] <QueenVee> phoam: keep pushing it and you're out
[11:37] <Nightbird> I don't know, Spanky.. I just know Charles Hapgood discovered a map that is reported to be 17,000 years old and shows Antartica ice free
[11:37] <obany> try to keep your questions pole shift, aftertime and transformation related
[11:37] <Spanky_> why dont the zetas take a second emmisary, maybe obany.
[11:37] <phoam> I am not pushing..
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[11:38] <obany> sigh
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[11:38] <phoam> Why spanky?
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[11:38] <phoam> Hmm
[11:38] <phoam> shaw cable.. i've seen that around my area
[11:38] <obany> spanky is just well nasty that's all
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[11:40] <QueenVee> hi humvee
[11:40] <humvee> hi QV
[11:40] <karmie> hi humvee
[11:40] <obany> spanky just don't want to see that it doesn't work that way
[11:40] <humvee> hi-hi
[11:40] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about one hour. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider. We’re low on questions -- so ask away....
[11:41] <Nightbird> This question may not be relevant since fuel will be a problem... but I have heard that with the magnetism change.. things that use magnets will be useless after the shift..how is that for a question?
[11:41] <Nightbird> Hi Hum
[11:41] <QueenVee> an example of something that uses magnets?
[11:41] <Nightbird> motors, speakers
[11:41] <Nightbird> I'm sure there are more
[11:42] <QueenVee> mmm, not really relevant nightbird....
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[11:43] <Nightbird> I understand.. just trying to be helpful
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[11:45] <Nightbird> Here are some more things using magnets, Queen
[11:45] <Nightbird> Magnets are used to make electric motors and generators. Without these electric motors and generators we would not have telephones, lights, electric heat, television, or computers.
[11:45] <phoam> get some of those permanent magnets made with boron and covered with gold
[11:45] <obany> if no one has questions, perhaps reading some zetatalk would help ... there are enough answers to give an things to be explained concerning the aftertime
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[11:46] <Mulder> Queen: Hmmm, Antartica... Must be a nice and quiet place after the shift. I wonder how long it would take after the shift before one can set up camp there? Would that be a valid question?
[11:46] <phoam> When will px reach pluto?
[11:46] <phoam> or it's orbit..
[11:46] <acp128> i have a potential question.. I wanted to know if we could get some advice regarding dental health both before and after the PS
[11:46] <QueenVee> Mulder: did you check the Safe Locations document ?
[11:47] <QueenVee> acp: could you be more specific?
[11:47] <phoam> well.. you could go steal stuff from a dentist's building if no one is there
[11:48] <Mulder> Queen: Yep, but I don't remember reading how long it would take to become habitable
[11:48] <obany> sigh folks, ... i think there are more important issues then dental care
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[11:48] <acp128> QueenVee: Just curious as to whether it's recommended we stock up on floss, brushes, etc.  Or if we should get all our teeth fixed up before May 15
[11:48] <QueenVee> Mulder: could you please get the link for that page, please
[11:48] <sundar> or, keep a dental health plan wih you
[11:48] <acp128> I heard Nancy say she stopped flossing
[11:48] <QueenVee> acp: well, that's just common sense, isn't it?
[11:49] <phoam> hell, i'm bringing my toothbrush
[11:49] <acp128> well Nancy stopped flossing... to me that would mean cavities between the teeth
[11:49] <QueenVee> hello smurr and Karen: Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about one hour. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider.
[11:49] <acp128> that's not common sense
[11:49] <Nightbird> I believe we should try to get our bodies in the best shape possible before the shift
[11:49] <Karen> Hi  thanks
[11:49] <smurr> hello
[11:50] <QueenVee> acp128: use your head, if it's good to look after your teeth now, it will be good to look after your teeth after the shift as much as you are able....
[11:50] <phoam> you'd better start training
[11:50] <sundar> I feel we should practice eating less and drinking less water - may be a jog in early morning fog w/o water might help
[11:50] <phoam> well.. if we eat stuff with no sugars in it, we will be ok
[11:50] <obany> enougn ow.... just think about the aftertime .... the things that will occur after the pole shift, as that time will aproach us SOON
[11:50] <acp128> QueenVee: Do you know why Nancy stopped flossing?  Does that help in any way?
[11:51] <phoam> yea, gangs forming and pillaging
[11:51] <QueenVee> acp: if you mention flossing one more time, i'm kicking you
[11:51] <Karen> I was wanting to ask:  Since the Zeta's say they aren't aware of densities above six is it possible then for us to be receiving help from densities higher than six that they aren't aware of.
[11:51] <obany> there are far more issues...
[11:51] <phoam> woah
[11:51] <phoam> infinite possibilities infinite outcomes
[11:51] <QueenVee> Karen: if they're not aware of those densities, then how could the zetas answer that question?
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[11:52] <acp128> QueenVee: you have no answer for my question... so now you get upset?  grow up
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[11:52] <Mulder> Queen: Antartica: http://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h10.htm As a place to set up camp for the Hybrids, but nothing about the time it will take to become habitable
[11:52] <phoam> heh
[11:52] <QueenVee> hello inquiry
[11:52] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about one hour. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider.
[11:52] <Karen> Yeah  I thought about that but the word "possibility"  is what I  am asking
[11:52] <phoam> well, you can eat snow there
[11:52] <inquiry> young miss QueenVee:)
[11:52] <inquiry> et all :)
[11:53] <QueenVee> long time no see, inquiry
[11:53] <inquiry> been in the hospital with surgeries... puter lost it's hard drive and had to send it outside to get fixed
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[11:53] <inquiry> but now I have it back lol
[11:53] <inquiry> glad to be back:)
[11:53] <QueenVee> hello Buente: Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about one hour. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider.
[11:54] <QueenVee> obany: can you advise whether this has already been answered:
[11:54] <obany> Mulder: and they speak also about the new land that will emerge as a lace for the hybrids ... check again
[11:54] <obany> and i doubt that the Zetas will say where exactly the hybrids will live
[11:54] <QueenVee> people keep asking for some kind of a timeline of when PX will arrive at certain destinations, e.g. the edge of our solar system, pluto, etc....
[11:54] <obany> after the pole shift
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[11:55] <Mulder> Obany: That's exactly what they are suggesting in my link
[11:55] <QueenVee> obany: would you consider that an appropriate question?
[11:55] <QueenVee> hello Captain:
[11:55] <obany> QueenVee: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s100.htm
[11:55] <Captain_nibiru> HI
[11:55] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about one hour. I am currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question, please post it here for the group to consider.
[11:56] <sundar> Question to Nancy: I had received a reply from Nasa that they do not see anything suspicious like a large hole in Kupier belt towards orion - how does the PX affect the Kupier belt - will it cause a big hole in Kupier belt before it actually enters the solar system
[11:56] <phoam> Of course
[11:57] <obany> but do they mention the exact place ... i doubt so Mulder
[11:57] <phoam> If it is pulling moons, then it is very dense.
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[11:58] <sundar> Question to Nancy: When does PX affect the Kupier belt?
[11:58] <obany> and since most the hybrids for what i read will live in 4th density on earth .. then i doubt you will find them  ...  
[11:58] <phoam> Well.. if it does.
[11:58] <phoam> Does that mean they are invisible?
[11:58] <inquiry> a softball sized shaped and sized Plutonium weighs about 300 pounds
[11:58] <inquiry> very dense material
[11:59] <Mulder> Obany: No they don't. Antartica is big anough for the Hybrids and some more people. Therefore I think it would be a nice and quiet place to set up camp after the shift. Just wonder if it would be appropriete to ask how long the melting process would take.
[11:59] <phoam> damn
[11:59] <QueenVee> sundar: okay, question accepted
[11:59] <phoam> just think what a baseball size of dark matter would weigh..
[11:59] <inquiry> much much more
[11:59] <phoam> hell yes
[11:59] <obany> Mulder: there is an answer about the melting poles in ZT ...
[12:00] <phoam> melting poles.. not good..
[12:00] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p30.htm
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[12:01] <Mulder> Obany: thanks, i'll check it out right now
[12:01] <obany> and why can no one come up with some questions ... ??
[12:01] <QueenVee> hello ETN. Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 30 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda.
[12:01] <inquiry> were the earth to shift 90 degrees.... what were the poles would become equatorial and of course melt
[12:01] <phoam> 30 minutes??
[12:02] <phoam> hmm
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[12:02] <inquiry> hello Eccles welcome
[12:02] <QueenVee> hello Eccles: Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 30 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda.
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[12:02] <Eccles> Thanks and hi, QV
[12:02] <inquiry> hello Mad_Hatter
[12:03] <Mad_Hatter> Greetings!
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[12:03] <QueenVee> For those who just entered the room: Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 30 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda.
[12:03] <inquiry> welcome GoldoraK
[12:03] <QueenVee> ATTENTION: we're currently short on questions for the agenda -- so if you have questions, please present them....
[12:03] <obany> so there are questions related to shortly after the pole shift..But maybe one could ask about a few years after.
[12:04] <phoam> I asked my question.. but it is not important.
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[12:04] <phoam> Ah!!
[12:04] <inquiry> hello johnny and Lancer
[12:04] <QueenVee> hello johnny and lancer: Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 30 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda.
[12:04] <inquiry> welcome
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[12:04] <phoam> What are those tunnel or snake-like things on the surface of Mars?
[12:04] <inquiry> welcome acp128
[12:04] <johnny> hi all
[12:04] <Lancer> howdy folks, inquiry & QueenVee
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[12:04] <inquiry> welcome sheila
[12:05] <phoam> nah..
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[12:05] <HBO-afk> Mulder: if memory serves, it will take 2-3 years for polar ice to melt
[12:05] <inquiry> hello JFull'
[12:05] <JFull> ho
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[12:06] <inquiry> welcome ydgrasil
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[12:06] <inquiry> welcome Domicile
[12:06] <QueenVee> For those who just entered the room: Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 30 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda.
[12:06] <Domicile> Hi there
[12:06] <inquiry> :)
[12:07] <QueenVee> won't be much of a session today, folks, cause we don't have questions
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[12:07] <karmie> As the PS gets closer, will we find ourselves being more in tune with the wisdom - both internal and external - that we need to pull through this?
[12:07] <inquiry> welcome Baily
[12:07] <phoam> or acceptable ones..
[12:07] <Karen> I am sitting here brainstorming
[12:08] <inquiry> Karen lol
[12:08] <phoam> that's a good one actually
[12:08] <Karen> like pooh  "I'm thinkin"
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[12:08] <inquiry> I sensed something there too
[12:08] <obany> so what if people want to move from there place where they survived the pole shift and want to move to another place, like by boat.  Is there some time frame on how long they should wait ?
[12:09] <inquiry> good question
[12:09] <QueenVee> obany: why should they wait?
[12:09] <Eccles> Question:  Is it possible that areas that have never had earthquakes will experience them during the pole shift?  Is the same true for volcanoes...will volcanoes form where none have existed before?
[12:09] <obany> QueenVee: i am talking here about countries like Greece...
[12:09] <obany> moment
[12:09] <inquiry> secondary shifting and setteling?
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[12:10] <inquiry> another good question Eccles
[12:10] <JFull> Wind-- how long untill the strong wings subsides
[12:10] <inquiry> welcome sam
[12:10] <acp128> maybe if the hosts weren't so belligerent and threatening we'd have more questions
[12:10] <inquiry> oh my
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[12:10] <Karen> Has someone already asked if the Bubonic plaque was a scare tactic or a serious maneuver that is actually being planned
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[12:10] <inquiry> welcome me
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[12:10] <me> khi
[12:10] <inquiry> :)
[12:11] <me> (hi)
[12:11] <inquiry> phone .brb
[12:11] <sotos> Obany: to move where? at the small islands? what for?
[12:11] <johnny> Question for the session: Seth Shostak senior astronomer of the organization SETI , appeared on coast to coast this past thursday. When asked about the possibiliy of planet X heading into the inner solar system this year, shostak found it to be highly unlikey ,as he believes it would already be visible to the naked eye ay this point if it was that close. Why would he say this if SETI is now privateley funded.
[12:11] <QueenVee> Eccles: well, earthquake question accepted, but not volcano question. it takes a considerable amount of time for a volcanoe to form they won't form over night
[12:12] <obany> like a contactee being at a safe place, but know somehow that after the shift he or she would move to another place
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[12:12] <obany> that's the kind of thing that i am pointed at
[12:12] <obany> feelings etc, as i am sure one can't move directly afterwards
[12:12] <HBO-afk> QueenVee, along with Karen's Q, I have serious doubts about the explanation of the mad scientist "accidentally" destroying 30 viles of bubonic bacteria, maybe have the Zs address this?
[12:12] <QueenVee> Eccles: ZT has already said that long dormant volcanoes will erupt
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[12:12] <QueenVee> okay, i'm putting moderation mode on so i can catch up on the questions
[12:13] <QueenVee> that means none of you will be able to post for a few minutes
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[12:13] <QueenVee> obany: i'm having trouble understanding your question. if people have to wait, for physical reasons, like flooding, etc, then that will vary from place to place, yes?
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[12:14] <QueenVee> there can be no set time frame that will apply to everyone?
[12:14] <QueenVee> can you answer, obany, and clarify?
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[12:14] <QueenVee> FOR THOSE WHO JUST ENTERED THE ROOM: Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 30 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda.
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[12:14] <obany> okay queenvee is basilcyt agree
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[12:15] <QueenVee> johnny: re Seth Shostak: why do you think he would have knowledge of PX?
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[12:15] <obany> do some reading please  http://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h00.htm it seems like no one can come up with questions, just try to listen to your guts .. and feel what you can come up with
[12:15] <QueenVee> Karen: can you give me more info about the bubonic plague thing? a link maybe, or just some background info?
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[12:16] <mankochum> hi
[12:16] <JFull> Question--Wind-- how long untill the strong winds subsides
[12:16] <obany> i am sure some could ask questions by intution????
[12:16] <Tizza> morning all
[12:16] <QueenVee> JFull: good question, added
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[12:16] <Karen> In the news it was stated that 35 viles of bubonic plaque came up missing from a Tech place in Texas  ....then they supposedly found them   The story went from one extreme to the other.
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[12:17] <QueenVee> karen: so you're proposing that this might have been a scare tactic on the part of the govt?
[12:17] <Karen> Yes     perhaps
[12:17] <Tizza> australia going up in smoke again..canberra is encircled with fire storms...burning into the capital now :(
[12:18] <QueenVee> mmmm, not really related to this channel; i'd ask that in the next session
[12:18] <me> The vials weren't found--suppossedly a researcher had destroyed themm
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[12:18] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 15 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda.
[12:18] <QueenVee> correction, 15 minutes
[12:18] <mankochum> good
[12:18] <Karen> me>   I only heard they were "found"  but not exactly how.
[12:19] <QueenVee> obany: i've added your question about waiting to move, in the hope that they can provide some general guidelines
[12:19] <HBO> q, this is a good sybnopsis on the bubonic plague story http://www.rense.com/general33/vvle.htm
[12:19] <phoenix> Q: Since many windmills do not charge batteries while in governing mode during high winds, could the Zetas elaborate on average windspeeds after poleshift?
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[12:19] <Domicile> Q: Since wind is caused by uneven heating of the earths surface, how will thick, consistant cloud cover affect wind prospects?
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[12:20] <QueenVee> HBO: thanks for the summary, okay, i'll try to fit that in
[12:20] <obany> so no questions on how it will be like a few years after the shift, most questions at this time seems to be directly after the shift. right?
[12:20] <Nightbird> Queen.. it came to me a minute ago why magnets will be important after the shift... radios use magnets
[12:20] <Karen> Thanks HBO
[12:20] <mankochum> and crystals
[12:20] <Zetapal> ZT question: Concerning the recent Jan 10 images of pX coordinates and the reports that the targets appear less distinct than the Dec images, do the zetas have any advice or comment on the imaging techniques used? Should the Feb images be expected to be more distinct than the most recent or will the trend continue? Is there any tamporing with the images going on as implied in this post? :http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earthc
[12:20] <QueenVee> okay, wind questions accepted
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[12:21] <QueenVee> ZT: can you please provide the full link
[12:21] <Zetapal> yes sorry...
[12:22] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 15 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda.
[12:22] <ETN> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earthchanges/
[12:22] <Zetapal> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earthchanges_discussion_prep_planetx/message/3511
[12:22] <Zetapal> does that work ok?
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[12:22] <ETN> yes
[12:22] <serbeo> will the northeast USA experience a second winter,as if reset after the ps
[12:22] <ETN> i'm reading it
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[12:22] <obany> i don't think this is related to this channel zetapal
[12:23] <QueenVee>
[12:23] <QueenVee> OKAY, LISSEN UP:
[12:23] <obany> and then we have that James guy too writing a email in all caps
[12:23] <QueenVee> obany: you too
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[12:23] <QueenVee> obviously, i am NOT going to submit a question along the lines of HAS NANCY DOCTORED THE PHOTOS....
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[12:24] <QueenVee> because the assumption in this channel is that nancy is not a dishonest person
[12:24] <Zetapal> right, perhaps someone else has
[12:24] <QueenVee> however, i WILL submit a question asking why there has been such an AGGRESSIVE attack on nancy of late by mcCanney
[12:24] <QueenVee> on nancy and zetatalk
[12:25] <QueenVee> Zetapal: GET IT STRAIGHT. I WILL NOT HAVE ANYONE LIBELLING THE  SIGHTINGS TEAM IN THIS CHANNEL
[12:25] <obany> QueenVee: he has done it before ... calling it zetaquack
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[12:25] <Zetapal> hmm ok, I didn't know that I had, but OK
[12:25] <obany> if you have a moment i will provide you a link ...
[12:25] <QueenVee> ESPECIALLY ON THE BASIS OF MCCANNEY'S SAY-SO
[12:26] <QueenVee> EVERYONE IS ON NOTICE: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ALONG THOSE LINES WILL EARN YOU A PERMANENT BAN FROM THIS CHANNEL
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[12:26] <Tcards> hello everyone
[12:27] <me> Q:  Are any other ET groups concurring on the May 15th date?
[12:27] <Karen> Hi
[12:27] <QueenVee> me: not to my knowledge....
[12:27] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZETATALK session begins in this channel in about 15 minutes. I am currently considering questions for the agenda.
[12:27] <me> Thanks
[12:27] <Jurgy> btw, a ban is only as powerfull as his ban queue
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[12:27] <Tcards> who`s mccanney?
[12:27] <Jurgy> mcdonnalds ?
[12:27] <QueenVee> your point being?
[12:28] <QueenVee> oh, cybervvizz -- why are you hiding behind a pseudonym, sweetie?
[12:28] <Jurgy> well, my point is in the long run, you can't ban if some figur out
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[12:28] <obany> QueenVee: check here http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/04/124469.php to see what he wrote
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[12:28] <obany> in 2002
[12:28] <Okidok> mcCanney suggest to close down zeta site
[12:29] <serbeo> will northeast USA experience a second winter,as if reset after ps
[12:29] <mankochum> probably
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[12:29] <QueenVee> yes, McCanney is suggesting quite a number of things; the question is why should anyone take him seriously
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[12:29] <obany> that's what he wants but that WON'T HAPPEN
[12:29] <QueenVee> serbeo: EXCELLENT QUESTION, accepted
[12:29] <Karen> What's he afraid of?  We have the right to read whatever we want.
[12:29] <obany> well i don't take him serious
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[12:29] <Okidok> he claims to be a scientist
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[12:29] <Domicile> Q: Since the atmospher will be stripped away during the pole shift how will this affect radio transmissions bouncing off the ionoshphere. Or will there be an ionosphere to bounce off of?
[12:29] <Mary> I'm sure this has been address before but:  7 weeks before the shift what will be the size of the planet to the naked eye?  A spot, a looming presence or what?
[12:29] <QueenVee> Guest: please change your nick to something other than Guest or you will be kicked
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[12:29] <Nightbird> Hi Nancy
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[12:30] <QueenVee> HELLO AND WELCOME NANCY
[12:30] <Tizza> hey nancy
[12:30] <obany> Hello Nancy
[12:30] <Karen> Hi Nancy  very cold where you are
[12:30] <NancyL> ANNOUNCEMENT: Jan 18th as well as Jan 10th images have been taken.  Jan 18th will be available for download shortly, hopefully I'll have them in place by tomrrow.
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[12:31] <Karen> cold here as well   burrrr
[12:31] <NancyL> I know I'm coming late, Queen, but am ready to start.  Well, actually, I'm just on time ..
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[12:31] <obany> good to hear that Nancy ... about the 18th pics
[12:31] <Red> guest type  /nick (new name)
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[12:31] <NancyL> Karen, our normal temps, but for Florida etc it is MUCH colder than usual.
[12:31] <QueenVee> OKAY, NANCY: Do you have any announcemnts to start with?
[12:32] <Karen> so I hear!   
[12:32] <smurr> cold in Jax too
[12:32] <NancyL> Just some SIGNS of the TIMES, is you want, here goes ...
[12:32] <NancyL> SIGNS OF THE TIMES #1: French Canadian Interest
[12:32] <NancyL> I am publisher of ... a  (Green Paper) in Quebec (Canada), a French Language paper published for 12 years now and read by 100 000 fanatics readers. Our moto is: environment, natural product, vigilance about all kind of phenomens...
[12:32] <NancyL> I always publish, in each issue, an article about subject like Troubled Times and my readers love it. As my clientele is a little bit more conscious, I plan to write an articleon the 12th planet and its consequences. Can I have more informations (if possible, in French?).
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[12:32] <NancyL> SIGNS OF THE TIMES #2
[12:32] <NancyL> There was a story on NPR Saturday around noon on All Things Considered. Aparently the polar melting has revealed artifacts from 2 different layers of time on a small island between Alaska and Russia. The first was dated at about 4000 years ago and another was about 7000 years ago.
[12:32] <NancyL> Posessions and food were left as if abandoned suddenly and then froze before they could rot. Here is the web address for the story on the NPR web site.  http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature/_914542.html
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[12:33] <NancyL> SIGNS OF THE TIMES #3: Australia Report
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[12:33] <NancyL> The drought has caused giant dust storms, the likes of which have never been seen by white man. Hot desert winds picked up dessicated Outback soil and carried it across vast tracts of land, in rolling storms that stretched for literally thousands of kilometres.
[12:33] <NancyL> Airports were closed down as major cities choked in the red haze. In parts of Queenland, the drought was broken by sudden, super-intense thunderstorms that caused flash-flodding and major damage by hailstones the size of softballs (in isolated areas they were even larger).
[12:33] <NancyL> Most of the country, though, is still in the grip of a severe drought, with massive crop losses resulting. Prices for fruit and vegetables are rising steadily. Freak weather conditions have also caused insect plagues; this phenomenon began about three years ago. Not only were there locust and fly plagues, but astounding mouse plagues in rural areas.
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[12:33] <NancyL> Unusually high tides have occurred on the East Coast, while unusually LOW tides are occurring here in the West, causing crabs to spawn out of season. We have also had temperatures soar above 40 C, only to swing back into a winter weather pattern, with 20 C days and rain, two or three days later. Crops and native trees are blooming out of season, and odd animal migrations are happening.
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[12:33] <NancyL> Cyclone Zoe, packing windspeeds of 360kmh or more, all but destroyed three islands in the Solomon group, 2000km off  the Australian coast. Zoe was the most powerful cyclone in the South Pacific in living memory. It  spawned an intense tropical low over the Northern Territory, which dropped up to half a metre of rain before completely reversing its direction, heading back out over water and picking up in intensity.
[12:33] <NancyL> The deep low pressure trough stretching out from this system caused heatwave conditions in P
[12:34] <NancyL> Our government, headed by highly STS individuals like John Howard, continues its brutal treatment of refugees. Outrages occur almost daily, such as the Immigration Minister, Phillip Ruddock, deporting a Russian woman while ordering that her baby be kept in Australia. Heseems to enjoy being personally involved in decisions that cause the most distress to refugees, such as the separation of family members.
[12:34] <NancyL> However, the usual smirks of this crowd are beginning to wilt, and there is fear in their eyes of late.
[12:34] <NancyL> SIGNS OF THE TIMES #4: Stock Brokers Admit ..
[12:34] <NancyL> During a conversation with a stock broker today he told me that their production number requirements had been increased due to down market, even tho he doesn't believe there are any stocks worth buying.  
[12:34] <NancyL> I mentioned that I thought that the market should actually be much lower but was being falsely bolstered by money moguls.  His reply: "I think your assessment is probably right on".
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[12:34] <NancyL> SIGNS OF THE TIMES #6: Slowing Rotation/Moon ..
[12:34] <NancyL> I use the program Starry Night professional edition to track objects in the sky. I noticed that when I opened the program that the moon was not visible in the sky, but when I looked at the sky, the moon was very visible, about 10 degrees declination. I thought this was very strange.
[12:35] <NancyL> I contacted Freeman, the company that makes the program, and told them about it, but if this program is right, which it should be, the earth is now 1.5 hours behind in its rotation, I thinks this is very strange, perhaps caused by planet X. I emailed them, they didnt know, all I know is that it used to be very acurate
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[12:35] <NancyL> End SIGNS OF THE TIMES ...
[12:35] <NancyL> Read for Q's Queen
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[12:35] <QueenVee>  FIRST QUESTION:
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[12:35] <QueenVee>  Let’s get the unpleasant stuff out of the way first. In the last week, James McCanney has renewed his attacks on Nancy and ZetaTalk with fresh vigour and venim -- demanding the ZetaTalk site be removed from the internet, accusing Nancy and her team of doctoring photos, etc..... Can the Zetas comment on the reason for this, and its timing?
[12:36] <NancyL> ZT: Signs of stress and cracks in the armor of the many factions of the debunking team are showing.
[12:36] <NancyL> ZT: This team has MANY arms, not all working together, and most only vaguely aware of each other.
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[12:37] <NancyL> ZT: They are coordinated at arms lenght by the establishments, in part by funding from the banking enterprises, highly threatened by the public becoming aware of the approaching earth changes, by the CIA working on ops not reported to Congress at all, especially since they are supposed to be working OUTSIDE of the US, not within, and by NASA.
[12:38] <NancyL> ZT: The individuals they support, either with funds or information or a cheerleading section, are not aware of the other arms, a typical covert activity methodology.
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[12:39] <NancyL> ZT: The cracks, so visible recently, as caused by several setbacks:
[12:39] <NancyL> ZT: 1. a key astronomer, who HAD been working on the team, designing alternate explanations and helping to craft attacks on the ZetaTalk message, quit.
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[12:40] <NancyL> ZT: He became aware of the plans to DENY the public information UP TO THE END, essentially murdering billions of the earth's populace, or having this effect.
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[12:41] <NancyL> ZT: He had assumed the coverup to be temporary, until the establishment could emerge with plans to inform the public, but found NO such plans being worked on whatsoever.
[12:41] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, others stepped in, less competent, and the wrong signals have been given.  
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[12:43] <NancyL> ZT: 2. wrong signals include Jim Scotti assuming that ZetaTalk was saying that Planet X WAS at Saturn's orbit, when regular postings on sci.astro and the web site make it CLEAR, from the start, and consistently, what the distance is.
[12:44] <NancyL> ZT: Having mis-stepped badly at the start, Jim found it hard to regain his footing.  This and the assumption the deunking master had that Nancy was NOT paying attention to sci.astro postings whatsoever, created a debate debackel (sp?)
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[12:45] <NancyL> ZT: 3. failure to closely direct debunkers such as Sarah, aka Silk in the chats, so that she went forth only partly prepped and make horendous misstatements about Saturn's visibility, during a public chat.
[12:46] <NancyL> ZT: She was supposed to be EXPERT, an accomplished amateur, had postured herself thus, and such a display pointed out that any intelligent posting had been FED to her.
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[12:47] <NancyL> ZT: 4. failing to gain leadership in the search, which was the intent for John Oliver, aka IMO, during the summer of 2002, when he was encouraging all to LOOK when Orion was in the sun, at the Zeta coordinates, and the public was to find they could see nothing.
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[12:47] <NancyL> ZT: This was sabotaged by us, ZetaTalk, in our refusal to provide summertime coordinates, as nothing could be seen when Orion was in the Sun in any case.
[12:48] <NancyL> ZT: IMO thus defeated only himself, but the plan STILL existed to gain leadership, so after Jim Scotti declined to stay in the arena, the debunking master sent in Michael Cunningham and others to say LOOK, its not there!
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[12:49] <NancyL> ZT: Well, unfortunately, the debunking masters timing was off, as it was CLEARLY visible by this time, and the web sites quickly thrown up to grab the leadership role only provided more data, more proof!
[12:50] <NancyL> Thus, a type of hysteria has set in, with any party willing to be used by the debunking master exhorted to be shrill, do ANYTHING, and this is likely to get worse.
[12:51] <NancyL> ZT: Hazlewood is hardely heard about anymore, having failed to capture the public as a Pied Piper, and having been too OBVIOUS in his postings about where Planet X was, for instance seen in the Sun by the Hubble, which would never be pointed there due to potential and certain mirror damage.
[12:52] <NancyL> ZT: McCanny, who went from asserting that Planet X would NOT return in 2003 to saying 2003 would happen but it would come from Sagitarius, has discredicted himself.
[12:52] <NancyL> ZT: He is a self promoter, enraged when others get the stage, and is fuming that Nancy so casually gets the attention she does.
[12:53] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, they go off to lick their wounds, or sputter about in an obvious manner, and this type of contradictions and flip-flopping are likely to get extreme, not corrected, as the weeks wend on.
[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: If you think THIS is interesting, wait until the establishment tries to start explaining the big reddish object in the skies!
[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: This is entertainment!
[12:54] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?
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[12:54] <TerrorDactyl> If 6 billion people's lives are at risk then why spend so much time talking about a few geeks on sci.astro?? That doesn't make any sense. For every sci.astro reader there are 10 million people that have never heard of it - where are your priorities?
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[12:55] <phoenix> With only 4 months to poleshift, won't some professional astronomers come forward with reports of PX?
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[12:55] <obany> the point is that there are those who read sci.astro withouth posting
[12:55] <NancyL> Terror, you're another one :-)  You have not fooled ME.  Because, dear debunking agent, sci.astro reaches MILLIONS, indirectly, via influential astronomers who READ that Usenet.
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[12:56] <Revenant203> hello everyone
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[12:56] <obany> i think we have a fake steveh here ... i think at least it seems tht way
[12:56] <NancyL> And these astronomers KNOW that this planet is inbound, are watching it, and can go to the media in their various countries.
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[12:56] <Domicile> They may say it's a malfunctioning peice of new equiptment just put up. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/virtual_star_020104.html
[12:56] <SteveH> I'm logged on from a different computer so will have different ip
[12:56] <TerrorDactyl> that was a fair question
[12:57] <SteveH> it's me though!
[12:57] <NancyL> Phoenix, during the Jim Scotti debate, the Zetas said that, yes, that many were thinking about where their loyalties shouuld lie.
[12:57] <obany> !ban TerrorDactyl
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[12:58] <QueenVee> ready for the next question, nancy?
[12:58] <NancyL> Yes!  Ready!
[12:58] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION:
[12:58] <QueenVee>  Many ZetaTalk followers are asking for a clearer timeline on the progress of PlanetX on it’s journey towards earth. Is it possible for the Zetas to indicate when PX will arrive at the edge of our solar system and at each planet of our solar system before passing earth?
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[12:59] <NancyL> ZT: For the people of Earth, the points they will be concerned with are that it IS going to happen, or not, which they are all entertaining as a possibility.
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[13:00] <NancyL> ZT: That it IS going to happen will be determined, for many, when the 7 week period begins, and a reddish object is visible in the daytime sky.
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[13:00] <Revenant203> Ay nancy , is chicago gonna be affected severely ?
[13:00] <NancyL> ZT; The fast that this appears, is WHERE, and WHEN and WHAT we said it would be, will consume their consciousness.
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[13:01] <NancyL> ZT: Those who have prepared, have a remote spot to go where clean water and some food from farmlands or wilderness might be gotten, will still be consumed with regret, grief, indecision as to just when to move to safety and cut ties with the old life.
[13:02] <NancyL> ZT: Those who have not prepared, have been simply watching and waiting for certain signs or a hoped for FAILURE of these signs to manifest, indicating a mistake on Nancy's part or a fraud, will go into stunned shock.
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[13:03] <NancyL> ZT: All that they have delayed, all the many parts they have failed to put into place, will come to haunt them.
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[13:03] <NancyL> ZT: They will, in most cases, be hysterical, rushing about, pleading with others, and making mistakes in their haste.
[13:04] <NancyL> ZT: Those who have not considered will be learning, prehaps for the first time, that this reddish object in the skies was PREDICTED, by ZetaTalk, and will be reading and absorbing the impact to their lives, with scarely another though besides what this will MEAN to their lives.
[13:05] <NancyL> ZT: Now, in all of this, NO ONE, including professional astronomers, who will by this time be steadily watching the progress of this monster and its entourage of Moons, daily, be worried about just what orbit the monster is passing through on its headlong plunge toward the Sun, and near miss of the Earth.
[13:05] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?
[13:06] <QueenVee> with all due respect, nancy, that did not address the question:
[13:06] <QueenVee> Many ZetaTalk followers are asking for a clearer timeline on the progress of PlanetX on it’s journey towards earth. Is it possible for the Zetas to indicate when PX will arrive at the edge of our solar system and at each planet of our solar system before passing earth?
[13:06] <NancyL> Queen, the Distance charts, available on the web, can be used to calculate what orbit will be passed when.
[13:06] <QueenVee> okay
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[13:07] <QueenVee> follow-up anyone?
[13:07] <QueenVee> no?
[13:07] <sundar> Nancy, you had mentioned that PX will travel from Pluto to earth in 100 light days in 7 weeks
[13:07] <NancyL> Sundar, I'm not sure if that was the statements, it was 7 weeks from Saturn's orbit to Passage.
[13:07] <smurr> How close would PX have to pass the Earth to cause it to leave its orbit?
[13:08] <mankochum> this involves many numbers
[13:08] <NancyL> 3 months to pass from one side of Saturn's orbit to the other, not Pluto at all.
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[13:08] <NancyL> Smurr, this is hypothetical, and the Zetas have said in REALITY, it will come within 14 million miles, and Earth will NOT leave its orbit.
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[13:09] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION:
[13:09] <QueenVee>  ZT has provided a lot of information about how humans can protect themselves during the hour of the shift. But can those living in the country protect large domestic animals such as horses and cows, who tend to be claustrophobic and difficult to get to lie down?
[13:10] <NancyL> Let me just say before addressing this, that the new Jan 10th images show a RAPIDLY INBOUND complex, as the individual moons can be seen SWIRLING during the imaging session alone!  
[13:10] <NancyL> BIG change from Dec 27-28!  
[13:10] <NancyL> OK, now this next Q addressed:
[13:10] <QueenVee> thanks, nancy
[13:11] <NancyL> ZT: Already, it has been noted that many animals, domesticated as well as wildlife, act crazed.
[13:11] <NancyL> ZT: Jack rabbits attack, and spiders spin webs over acreas.
[13:12] <NancyL> ZT: It is a part of folklore, true, that domesticated animals often protent a quake, by acting nervous, hiding under beds, or restless.
[13:12] <NancyL> ZT: They are listening to what is in the air, increased electrical charges that interfere with radio transmissions, also another portent of quakes.
[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: How will animals behave, during the days preceding the shift and the shift itself?
[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: ALL animals, including humans, seek to escape what they sense is a crisis, a cinch point.
[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: If matters are bad HERE, then MOVE, so will be on the move, endlessly.
[13:14] <NancyL> ZT: A loud noise sends a herd running, a stampeed, and scatters a flock of birds.
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[13:14] <NancyL> ZT: Their instincts tell them that something has exploded, or dropped, may be heading their way, so MOVE.
[13:15] <NancyL> ZT: Likewise, portents of thunderstorms are more than just thunder cracks, it is electrical charges in the air.
[13:16] <NancyL> ZT: To escape potential lightning strikes, animals have learned to MOVE, to leave the area, and thus the restlessness of domesticaled animals such as dogs and cats just before an earthquake.
[13:16] <NancyL> ZT: Most certainly, this will be the situation for at least a WEEK going into the shift, and domesticated animals hard to handle for this reason.
[13:16] <NancyL> ZT: What should a pet owner, or farmer, do?
[13:17] <NancyL> ZT: In the case of pets, who will be hard to feed and most likely become a meal instead, they should be put to sleep.
[13:17] <NancyL> ZT: This is the kindest thing, but our advice is unlikely to be heeded, so they will run about, be injured, be starved, be shot, and eventually be eaten.
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[13:18] <NancyL> ZT: However, to save one's strength for the children, the injured, the hysterical HUMANS among you, eliminate the pets from the equation, our advice.
[13:19] <NancyL> ZT: In the case of farm animals, who will be able to graze a bit, may survive to increase the herd, they should be put into a field where they cannot hurt themselves by running about, hysterically.
[13:19] <NancyL> ZT: Close quarters such as a barn, a pen, will cause them to injure themselves against the walls, trying to escape.
[13:20] <NancyL> ZT: Left out in a field, they will run about, exhuast themselves, and will more likely to be prone, resting, when the shift hits than on their feet because of this.
[13:20] <NancyL> ZT: Let nature take its course, as these animals DID survive in the past.  
[13:21] <NancyL> ZT: The key is to provide an environment where they cannot hurt themselves.  Bared wire, likely to be forgotten by hysterical animals, is not good.
[13:21] <NancyL> ZT: Wooden fences, or natural barriers, are better.
[13:21] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?
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[13:21] <karmie> Could the mass prayers of humanity help protect our planet?
[13:21] <QueenVee> excellent, nancy, thank you
[13:21] <QueenVee> karmie: no
[13:21] <obany> karmie: has been stated before, pole shift can't be avoided
[13:22] <phoenix> How widespread Will rabies in wild or domestic animals be?
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[13:22] <NancyL> Karmie, try curing cancer first.  If this works, then try saving the planet.
[13:22] <NancyL> Phoenix, no more widespread than today, why would it differ?
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[13:22] <QueenVee>  LAST QUESTION:
[13:23] <QueenVee>  ZT has indicated that regions that currently experience cold winters (e.g. Canada) will experience warmer climes after the shift (more like the southern US). How long after the shift will this occur. Should inhabitants still prepare for the kind of cold winter they are used to in the first year after the shift?
[13:23] <QueenVee> And, conversely, should those in tropical climes prepare for a Canadian-like winter in the first year?
[13:23] <NancyL> ZT: We have stated that due to the shift, a new geography will ensure, and a new climate for most lands.
[13:24] <NancyL> ZT: The shift happens within an hour, and rotation starts within a day after the shift, the monster planet causing the shift on its way rapidly.
[13:25] <NancyL> ZT: The largest influence on the climate of any given region is the SUN, the degree of sunlight, whether this is experience through clouds or a cloud-free sky.
[13:26] <Na