Session Start: Sun Jan 19 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <Noah1952> Is there anyone out there this early in the morning?
[00:01] <walt> yep
[00:02] <Noah1952> Are you living in or near Chicago?
[00:02] <walt> nope
[00:03] <Noah1952> Mind being a liitle more detailed?
[00:03] <walt> mind phrasing you question to be more detailed : )
[00:04] <walt> you didnt ask where I lived
[00:04] <walt> you asked if I was close to chi town
[00:04] <Noah1952> Okay, where do you live?
[00:04] <walt> WA
[00:04] <walt> : )
[00:04] <walt> state
[00:04] <Noah1952> Do you plan to relocate, and if so, where?
[00:05] <walt> nope
[00:05] <walt> plan to stay right here
[00:06] <Noah1952> Any reason why?
[00:07] <walt> $
[00:09] <Noah1952> I am looking for a really good book that can de-code ancient scriptures to reveal their astronomical meaning. Are you into that sort of thing, and if so, what can you recommend?
[00:10] <walt> nope Im not
[00:10] <walt> got to be sites out there that have that sort of info
[00:10] <walt> might want to do a goggle search
[00:11] <Noah1952> Why did you decide to join this chat room, if I may ask?
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[00:14] <inkpen> hello...is there any body out there?
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[00:14] <Noah1952> Yes.
[00:14] <inkpen> that was rude
[00:15] <walt> what was?
[00:15] <inkpen> guest always in and out
[00:16] <walt> NOAH- to pass on survival preparation information
[00:16] <inkpen> damn netscreen probs
[00:16] <inkpen> trying a new irc client kvirc neet stuf
[00:16] <Noah1952> WAIT- what can you send me?
[00:19] <walt> about what?
[00:21] <Noah1952> Emergency resources for urban as well as wilderness survival that is not generally available on-line.
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[00:21] <walt> all my sites are on-line
[00:21] <walt> you want book names?
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[00:21] <Noah1952> Can you give me the URLs?
[00:22] <inkpen> www.zetatalk.com
[00:22] <walt> http://www.cros.net/dougd/books/survive.htm
[00:22] <walt> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/9333/BOOKLIS.htm
[00:22] <inkpen> wow...sorry just toying with program
[00:22] <walt> very extensive book list
[00:23] <walt> http://www.survivalistbooks.com/
[00:23] <walt> http://www.survival-guidebook.com/21/guidebook-bw.pdf
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[00:24] <walt> http://www.storeybooks.com/
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[00:25] <penink> hi daco
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[00:26] <Noah1952> Thanks, WAIT, I'mm going to leave now to check them out.
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[00:28] <inkpen> damn
[00:28] <inkpen> none of my clients can auth now
[00:41] <inkpen> hello daco
[00:41] <daco> hello
[00:41] <inkpen> what brings you here?
[00:42] <daco> service to others
[00:42] <Funk> are you preparing for the coming poleshift?
[00:42] <daco> oh yes
[00:43] <penink> thats good where do you live?
[00:43] <daco> colorado
[00:43] <inkpen> cool
[00:44] <daco> you inkpen?
[00:44] <inkpen> victoria BC
[00:44] <inkpen> you know where that is?
[00:45] <daco> was up there last summer, very nice place
[00:45] <inkpen> nice...
[00:46] <daco> drove over 6000 miles looking for possible after-times places
[00:46] <daco> and after all of that i decided to stay here!
[00:46] <Funk> wow...thats quite the journey
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[00:48] <daco> I,nm the guy who has been selling the battery-free flashlights to ZT and TT members
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[00:48] <funk> nice, battery free you say?
[00:48] <funk> hi niburu
[00:49] <funk> nibiru
[00:49] <nibiru> Hi
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[00:49] <daco> yes. 30 second of shaking...20 minutes of light
[00:50] <daco> I know the owner/inventor of the flashlights. do you know the military just bought a bunch of 'em!
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[00:51] <inkpen> no i did not...hmm
[00:51] <inkpen> how can they not run on batteries?
[00:52] <daco> the owner Todd Bown said they were to help "light up: Iraq, but I wonder too.
[00:52] <inkpen> hmmm
[00:52] <daco> a rare earth magnet is passed through a coil, which charges a capacitor that lites and LED
[00:52] <daco> an LED
[00:54] <daco> they are mil-spec, good to 430 feet under water, poly-carbonate housing
[00:55] <inkpen> WOW
[00:55] <inkpen> i will have to research this
[00:55] <inkpen> but i must retire now, gnite
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[00:55] <daco> the manifactures web site is www.nightstar1.com
[00:55] <penink> ok thnx
[00:56] <penink> ill add to fav
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[00:56] <pen> and gnite :)
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[00:56] <daco> I sell them for much less to ZT and TT members than the MSRP of $45ea
[01:06] <daco> Is anyone still awake?
[01:07] <walt> yep
[01:07] <daco> where are you walt?
[01:07] <walt> wa
[01:07] <walt> USA
[01:08] <daco> I was in wa this summer ....big trees!
[01:10] <walt> in somr places
[01:11] <daco> Do you wear glasses walt?
[01:13] <daco> I do and am thinking about surgery to correct before the PS
[01:15] <walt> I wear them to read
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[01:16] <daco> Right now i see very well up close. but after the surgery I may not, i may need glasses to see up close
[01:17] <daco> which do you think would be better?
[01:20] <walt> Im not getting surgery
[01:20] <walt> spare glasses are much cheaper
[01:21] <walt> why would you nee to see far off?
[01:21] <walt> most work is done within arms length
[01:21] <daco> True
[01:22] <daco> I have already gotten several spares.
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[01:35] <walt> hi
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[02:00] <obany> the fits of the 18th are on the web : http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/naji10.htm
[02:05] <obany> sigh it's fits ... like common here read what that Hazle guy has on it's forum
[02:05] <obany> http://www.smartgroups.com/message/viewdiscussion.cfm?gid=1263554&messageid=588
[02:05] <obany> doh
[02:05] <obany> Zetatalk-Nancy Lieder-Steve Havas PX pictures have NASA server names!
[02:06] <obany> guess who wrote it... mr mcartnye
[02:10] <obany> in cooperation with our money hunting guy .. mr hazlewood
[02:25] <Cruithne> that guy <Sundar> in zeta saturday talk who had the math for px speed shoulda been calulateing moon rising to verfy if it's rising later then his math would have been of use
[02:32] <obany> probably so anyway laters
[02:45] <obany> i have read that too yes .. for what i remember
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[03:00] <rnthomas> Yawn...
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[03:38] <obany> update http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/naji10.htm
[03:41] <rnthomas> Hey ob, how goes...
[03:42] <obany> fine fine
[03:43] <rnthomas> I see your up kinda early...
[03:43] <obany> up early nah not realy
[03:44] <obany> it's 12:44pm here :)
[03:44] <rnthomas> I saw the update, but haven't gotten IRAS image software working well enuff...
[03:58] <obany> okay okay ... i guess i need some other software too xephem is okay but .. has some minor errors
[04:05] <obany> and i am not sure what to look for
[04:06] <obany> hehehehe btw Hazlewood and mcanney are now saying that zetatalk is a nasa disinfo site
[04:06] <obany> <obany> http://www.smartgroups.com/message/viewdiscussion.cfm?gid=1263554&messageid=588
[04:06] <obany> <obany> doh
[04:06] <obany> <obany> Zetatalk-Nancy Lieder-Steve Havas PX pictures have NASA server names!
[04:06] <obany> <obany> guess who wrote it... mr mcartnye
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[04:41] <obany> no one here?
[04:45] [obany:#poleshiftdiscussion PING]
[04:45] <obany> or is it zzzzzzzzzzzz time
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[05:07] <obany> http://www.unknowncountry.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?file=/61/6571.html&lm=1042960101#POST87678
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[05:10] <obany> hi Buentenende
[05:11] <Buentenende> hi
[05:27] * obany food, etu, eten
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[05:39] <rnthomas> Hey OB, sorry bout dissapearing on you..
[05:39] <rnthomas> Things kinda went dead...  I moved over to watch TV a bit... Very interesting stuff...
[05:43] * juditness is away.. housework, movies, anything. =x [mail: judit@geekychick.org] at 14:46:19
[05:51] <rnthomas> BTW: ob - About the link you posted, I pretty much already knew it, and have been tellin people this..
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[05:52] <rnthomas> ob - Mostly in Earthchanges... However as with most things it's the 1% that's wrong that's gonna gitcha...
[05:52] <rnthomas> Hey Tex, how goes it.
[05:52] <from_Texas> great and yourself
[05:53] <rnthomas> Not bad...  Still awake from yesterday, so pretty soon it's shutdown time.
[05:54] <from_Texas> sounds like that would be required at some point RN
[05:55] <rnthomas> It's a thought... lol...
[05:55] <rnthomas> Just thinking of goin to pack it in...
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[08:02] <tenshu`werk> yay
[08:02] <from_Texas> you have fun at work tenshu
[08:04] <tenshu`werk> indeed
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[08:10] <obany> seen this yet tied? http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/naji10.htm
[08:10] <tied2> yes I saw that which one is PX ?
[08:11] <tied2> can make sense of them?
[08:11] <obany> they still have to be combined etc for what i know those pics so not realy sure
[08:11] <obany> but i think it's on it ...
[08:12] <Buentenende> ...
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[08:12] <tied2> there seems to be a reddish type spit on there ....I wonder
[08:13] <tied2> oops spot my brain isn't working yet today
[08:16] <obany> :)
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[08:28] <tied2> Obany have you ever used skymap?
[08:29] <tied2> anyone know how to find a integer?
[08:32] <from_Texas> what are you trying to find tied... an integer is a whole number
[08:32] <from_Texas> as not in a fraction or decimal number
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[08:37] <from_Texas> hello  maximummark
[08:37] <maximummark> Howdy
[08:38] <maximummark> When's the next discussion?
[08:38] <from_Texas> are you refering to open discussion or a Zeta session
[08:39] <maximummark> Pre-Zeta?
[08:39] <from_Texas> Zeta sessions happen once a week on Saturday
[08:40] <maximummark> Pardon my ignorance...what's the best time to log in?
[08:40] <maximummark> CST
[08:41] <from_Texas> 2:30 pm on saturdays
[08:41] <maximummark> Thanks very much
[08:41] <from_Texas> we have open discussions all the time about preparing for the shift
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[08:48] <from_Texas> hi walt
[08:49] <walt> hi
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[09:35] <PoleShift> ISBN 3 85068 124 6
[09:37] <Jenny1> http://www.geocities.com/zetahunt/zetaparty.html
[09:38] <PoleShift> http://www.parkstpress.com/titles/hegogati.htm  great to borrow from library ;)
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[09:39] <loitus> http://www.geocities.com/zetahunt/zetaparty.html
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[09:39] <Jenny1> hey check out this good page for reference
[09:39] <Jenny1> http://www.geocities.com/zetahunt/zetaparty.html
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[09:54] <tied2> oh you beat me to it  lol
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[10:32] <obaway> hi queen, that jenny well aka davey joined in again
[10:32] <obaway> look what url she gave here
[10:32] <QueenVee> hope you kicked them
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[10:32] <obaway>  http://www.geocities.com/zetahunt/zetaparty.html
[10:33] <obaway> well i was away but tied did put a ban on
[10:33] <QueenVee> good work tied
[10:33] <QueenVee> really. these people have far too much time on their hands
[10:33] <QueenVee> i guess a subject like this is bound to attract loonies
[10:34] <QueenVee> keeps em off the streets, i guess
[10:34] <obaway> i guess so to but what dorks
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[10:36] <QueenVee> hello shaman
[10:36] <shaman464> hi queen
[10:38] <shaman464> does anyone know about Illuminati?
[10:39] <tied2> n/p
[10:39] <obaway> i read about it .... but i am not into it
[10:39] <QueenVee> nor i
[10:40] <shaman464> well they have a huge knoweldge of the PS and Aliens
[10:41] <QueenVee> how do you know?
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[10:42] <shaman464> ZT says they do
[10:44] <shaman464> Theyre agenda is to take over the world and they have alot of influence on alot of the major governments of the world
[10:45] <obaway> http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g77.htm
[10:46] <shaman464> brb
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[11:05] <QueenVee> hello spiff
[11:08] <Spiff> hi There
[11:10] <walt> QV I sent you a message
[11:10] <QueenVee> thanks, walt, i got it
[11:10] <walt> ok
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[11:16] <QueenVee> hello Mike -- what brings you to this room?
[11:16] <mIKe_vALLEy> i want to know the latest news about the pole shift
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[11:17] <QueenVee> the latest news about the poleshift can be found at www.zetatalk.com and www.shift2003.com
[11:17] <mIKe_vALLEy> ..ok
[11:17] <Simi> www.shift2003.com is a good site
[11:17] <QueenVee> hello Simi -- don't believe i've seen you here before
[11:17] <Simi> hey
[11:17] <Simi> nope
[11:17] <Simi> i have decided to join in
[11:17] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[11:18] <Simi> i have beeen checking out zetatalk the last few months and decided its my time to join in now
[11:18] <Simi> time is getting closer
[11:18] <QueenVee> "join in"?
[11:18] <Simi> i mean come into chat
[11:18] <QueenVee> for what purpose?
[11:19] <Simi> i would like to talk with others like myself who already are prepared
[11:19] <QueenVee> what are you doing to prepare for the poleshift?
[11:21] <Simi> well right now I am diversing my money into land now
[11:21] <Simi> i am in the process of buying some in Minn.
[11:21] <Simi> i am looking at buying 300 acres north of Duluth
[11:22] <Simi> what are u doing to prepare queen?
[11:23] <QueenVee> i've relocated, have my safe place, have been storing food and supplies, researching surivival techniques, etc.
[11:23] <Simi> very good
[11:23] <QueenVee> Mike: please stop private messaging me
[11:23] <QueenVee> Mike: if you have a question, please post it in the room
[11:23] <Simi> people laugh at us now but they will be sorry in a few months time
[11:23] <mIKe_vALLEy> ok
[11:23] <mIKe_vALLEy> sorry
[11:24] <QueenVee> Simi: well, i don't spend much time worrying what people think about me
[11:24] <mIKe_vALLEy> (mIKe_vALLEy) my english is bad..~
[11:24] <mIKe_vALLEy> (mIKe_vALLEy) Time remaining until
[11:24] <mIKe_vALLEy> (mIKe_vALLEy) PX VISIBLE TO NAKED EYE
[11:24] <mIKe_vALLEy> (mIKe_vALLEy) March 30, 2003
[11:24] <mIKe_vALLEy> (mIKe_vALLEy) 2 months + 2 weeks
[11:24] <mIKe_vALLEy> (mIKe_vALLEy) what means that
[11:24] <mIKe_vALLEy> (mIKe_vALLEy) ?
[11:24] <mIKe_vALLEy> (mIKe_vALLEy) please
[11:24] <mIKe_vALLEy> (mIKe_vALLEy) what is.. px visible to naked eye
[11:24] <Simi> thats when it will become visible to the naked eye man
[11:24] <QueenVee> it means that around March 30th, you will be able to see PlanetX in the sky without a telescope
[11:25] <QueenVee> 7 weeks after that point the poleshift will occur
[11:26] <QueenVee> Simi: do you live in Wisconsin right now?
[11:26] <Simi> yes i do
[11:26] <Simi> how did u know
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[11:26] <mIKe_vALLEy> ok
[11:27] <mIKe_vALLEy> thanks Simi and QueenVee
[11:27] <mIKe_vALLEy> =)
[11:27] <Simi> welcome
[11:27] <West_coast> hello
[11:27] <QueenVee> Simi: oh, actually, i thought you said you were buying land in wisconsin, but i see you said Minnesota
[11:27] <Simi> hey west_coast
[11:27] <Simi> yes
[11:27] <QueenVee> so why minnesota over wisconsin?
[11:27] <Simi> im in southern wis.
[11:27] <QueenVee> hi WC
[11:27] <West_coast> hi QV
[11:27] <Simi> just to be safe
[11:27] <Simi> most of my family is there
[11:28] <Simi> i am in wis. because of my job
[11:28] <QueenVee> i see
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[11:29] <mIKe_vALLEy> QueenVee you know Ashtar
[11:29] <mIKe_vALLEy> ?
[11:29] <QueenVee> no
[11:30] <QueenVee> who is ashtar?
[11:30] <mIKe_vALLEy> search in the web
[11:30] <mIKe_vALLEy> ashtar sheran
[11:31] <QueenVee> why should i bother?
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[11:33] <West_coast> QV: Have you "closed in" on a shelter idea?
[11:33] <QueenVee> you mean shelter during the poleshift itself?
[11:33] <QueenVee> or shelter in aftertime?
[11:33] <West_coast> You are thinking two, like I am
[11:33] <QueenVee> of course
[11:34] <West_coast> Pre-shift
[11:34] <QueenVee> one doesn't need any "special" kind of shelter in the aftertime
[11:34] <West_coast> I'm thinking one built of sand bags and metal roof for aftertime
[11:34] <QueenVee> it will either be covered earth trench, or half buried shipping container
[11:35] <West_coast> what does shipping container cost now days?
[11:35] <West_coast> actually, I guess you could rent one
[11:35] <QueenVee> yes,  you were mentioning that -- how long would it take to build one, including the filling of the bags?
[11:36] <QueenVee> yes, you can rent them by the month
[11:36] <West_coast> I figured, if you were set up, you could fill a bag a minute
[11:36] <walt> about 2-3k
[11:36] <West_coast> then it is a matter of how big you make it and how wide the walls
[11:37] <walt> WC make a funnel using a orange road cone
[11:37] <West_coast> bags are 12 x 24 inch and about 4 inch thick (not full)
[11:37] <walt> and some 2x 4 for uprihts
[11:37] <West_coast> you can get bags as cheap as 11 cents a piece
[11:38] <QueenVee> WC: well, assuming you have a ready supply of sand....
[11:38] <West_coast> dirt would also work
[11:38] <QueenVee> would you have a pile of sand delivered pre-shift?
[11:38] <QueenVee> well, dirt needs to be dug
[11:38] <walt> you can get them free from the state if you have flood prone property
[11:38] <QueenVee> so i doubt you can fill a bag a minute
[11:39] <West_coast> ugh..I know  so maybe sand is better
[11:39] <walt> QV its possible
[11:39] <West_coast> two people could do it pretty well, I think
[11:39] <walt> faster even when there are incoming rounds
[11:39] <QueenVee> how are the bags "sealed" after filling?
[11:39] <walt> tied off
[11:40] <West_coast> tie with string, twine etc
[11:40] <walt> tie off is usually connected to the bag
[11:41] <West_coast> it you did have to move, you could empty bags and take them with
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[11:42] <QueenVee> hello mescech -- what brings you to this room?
[11:42] <QueenVee> and what brings YOU to this room, DNS?
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[11:42] <meshech> to discuss the poleshift
[11:43] <West_coast> hi meshech: where in the world are you?
[11:43] <QueenVee> meschech: how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[11:44] <QueenVee> DNS: i see you have your own channel about the poleshift?
[11:45] <[DNS]> no, its not mine
[11:45] <QueenVee> hey hummer
[11:45] <QueenVee> DNS: whose is it?
[11:46] <[DNS]> dunno, i saw that in chanlist
[11:46] <QueenVee> but.... you're the only person in the channel....
[11:47] <[DNS]> yeah
[11:47] <[DNS]> its not my channel, u know...
[11:48] <[DNS]> chanserv is in channel too
[11:48] <QueenVee> so what brings you to this room, DNS?
[11:48] <[DNS]> hm to discuss about poleshift?:)
[11:48] <[DNS]> if i may be here...
[11:48] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[11:49] <[DNS]> hm , well , i believe about may2003 stuff.
[11:49] <QueenVee> how are you preparing?
[11:50] <[DNS]> hm, what u mean?
[11:50] <meshech> 9+11=20....20 months after 9/11 is may 2003
[11:50] <[DNS]> collecting food n stuff?
[11:50] <QueenVee> meshech: walt asked you earlier, where do you live?
[11:50] <QueenVee> you don't know what i mean by PREPARING?
[11:50] <walt> i did?
[11:50] <meshech> ohio....
[11:51] <QueenVee> sorry, that was WestCoast
[11:51] <QueenVee> meshech: what are you doing to prepare for the poleshift?
[11:51] <meshech> bought a chainsaw
[11:52] <meshech> :)...makes more sense than it might seem
[11:52] <QueenVee> and how will you run the chainsaw without gas?
[11:53] <meshech> will use it to denude the mountain ridge of trees where i dig my hole for shelter
[11:53] <meshech> so i'm not crushed by falling trees
[11:54] <walt> mts in Ohio?
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[11:54] <meshech> small ones....about 1400 ft asl
[11:54] <walt> oh those are hills
[11:55] <walt> small ones at that : )
[11:55] <meshech> don't ask me how they got here....isolated ridges....no name for them
[11:55] <hummer> Hi QueenVee - hav u heard of any debunk fm capt nibiru friend said was some sent me the attachment but I lost the battle to open it with my security protocols
[11:56] <meshech> i can always hop in my cessna and skip over to some rocky mountain plains if 1400asl isn't high enough
[11:57] <walt> why not just levitate
[11:57] <meshech> is 1400 ft high enough?
[11:57] <walt> it would be easier
[11:57] <West_coast> meshech: have you checked out www.zetatalk.com?
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[11:58] <meshech> yeah....i'm close to the kokomo, indiana area they talk about
[11:59] <West_coast> meshech: what does zt say about it?
[11:59] <meshech> says a bunch of carry-on govt types will hide out there
[11:59] <QueenVee> hiya tex
[12:00] <from_Texas> hi QV and WC
[12:00] <West_coast> hi Tex
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[12:03] <from_Texas> bbl
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[12:03] <West_coast> meshech: looks like rising waters will be a big problem...zt
[12:05] <meshech> i know...i suspect the entire eastern half of the lower 48 to be a big swamp
[12:05] <West_coast> meshech: what kind of a shelter are you going to have?
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[12:06] <meshech> just a hole....have my pickax and shovel and gloves
[12:06] <QueenVee> hello ssl -- what brings you to this room?
[12:06] <ssl> Hmmz...
[12:06] <ssl> i don't know
[12:06] <walt> bye bye
[12:06] <QueenVee> wrong answer
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[12:07] <West_coast> meshech: and chainsaw
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[12:07] <meshech> yep...just a temporary tool
[12:07] <QueenVee> ssl: what brings you back to this room?
[12:07] <meshech> get rid of the trees
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[12:08] <West_coast> meshech: so what are you going to do AfTER the poleshift?
[12:09] <meshech> who knows?....one step at a time....i may not be alive by then
[12:10] <QueenVee> meshech: this is a channel for those who are seriously preparing, i don't think it's really a channel for you
[12:10] <walt> so all your going to do is dig a hole and cut tress?
[12:11] <walt> trees
[12:11] <QueenVee> meshech: come back if and when you get serious
[12:11] <walt> sound like a lot of thought went into your preps
[12:11] <meshech> i'll probably put thickened pieces of tree branches over the hole, cover them with a tarp, and then bury the top in dirt
[12:12] <QueenVee> bye
[12:12] <walt> why not use the trees your cutting down?
[12:12] <meshech> if they aren't too heavy i might
[12:13] <walt> I figure MES to be about 14 or so
[12:13] <meshech> oh....i have other plans....lol
[12:13] <meshech> but everybody can't do what i am planning...so why talk about it?
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[12:14] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[12:14] <Zetapal> anybody want Tampa Bay?
[12:15] <QueenVee> meschech: so what are you planning?
[12:16] <QueenVee> meschech: what's the point of coming to a channel for discussing preparation plans if you're not willing to discuss your preparation plans?
[12:17] <meshech> i have many plans....have large amounts of dehydrated foods, survival supplies, and a fueled up plane
[12:17] <meshech> there is no one plan...many options
[12:18] <QueenVee> what do you plan to do with a "fueled up plane"?
[12:18] <meshech> as conditions change, so will my plans
[12:18] <meshech> location is pretty important, right?
[12:19] <meshech> government may set up road blocks, yes?
[12:19] <QueenVee> yep
[12:19] <Zetapal> um. fly it?
[12:20] <West_coast> meshech: what kind of plane do you have?
[12:20] <Zetapal> over the road blocks?
[12:20] <meshech> i'll be thumbing my nose at the check-points....
[12:21] <meshech> cessna 182....sufficient power to get to 14 or 15 thousand feet....high into the rockies...
[12:21] <QueenVee> meshech: you don't think there will be air restrictions aswell?
[12:21] <Zetapal> phooey
[12:22] <meshech> or less....if the atmosphere gets ripped away, i may not want to be at 14,000 feet
[12:22] <West_coast> meshech: there is no escape from PS.
[12:23] <Zetapal> who said he was trying to escape- maybe its just good for a quick relocation - you know you guys really set em up - you ask about something like that only for the purpose of poo poo-ing it ,,, shame on you  - if he's got a plane...more power to him
[12:24] <Zetapal> naysayers
[12:24] <QueenVee> uh, he just said he would use it to escape road blocks....
[12:24] <walt> nattering nabobs of negativity : )
[12:25] <Zetapal> and you wouldn't want him to escape Queen? or yes?
[12:25] <West_coast> flying off into the wild blue yonder doesn't sound like a plan to me
[12:25] <QueenVee> zetapal: i'm pointing out that his plans may be unrealistic
[12:25] <QueenVee> Zetapal: please feel free to invite meschech to your channel to regale you with his tales
[12:26] <Zetapal> ok now there tales - fine
[12:26] <QueenVee> yeah, i  think he's a bullshit artist -- we get quite a few of them in here
[12:27] <QueenVee> starts by saying that he has no plans....
[12:27] <QueenVee> then by the end of the conversation has quite elaborate plans in place....
[12:27] <QueenVee> of course, you missed that part of the discussion, zetapal
[12:27] <meshech> well....my plans are different
[12:27] <QueenVee> clearly
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[12:29] <Zetapal> well I guess i joined in late, my bad
[12:31] <West_coast> does anyone here envision a community or settlement, post PS?
[12:32] <QueenVee> i am resistant to the idea pre-planned communities...
[12:32] <QueenVee> i think the most successful ones will be those that form naturally....
[12:32] <West_coast> that's what I was thinking of
[12:33] <QueenVee> i think that as the PS gets close, my cousin and i will end up having quite a collection of friends and relatives at her place....
[12:33] <West_coast> cool
[12:34] <West_coast> I am imagining people finding their way to where I will be, post PS
[12:34] <QueenVee> the ideal that i see, is not a large formal "survival group", but rather small groups of friends and family interacting cooperatively with other such small groups, and forming loose communities along those lines...
[12:35] <West_coast> I agree, self-supporting groups cooperating with each other
[12:36] <QueenVee> the problem with large pre-planned "groups" is that they tend to be heavy with the burden of idealistic notions, and short on realism...
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[12:36] <West_coast> Idealism can create some problems in a survival comminity, I think
[12:36] <QueenVee> i any situation
[12:36] <humvee_AFK> We are thinking ppl living seperate houses close  enough 2 walk 2 a central meeting room with a kitchen / barbaque grill area
[12:36] <QueenVee> in any situation
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[12:37] <QueenVee> mmmm, i think native american indian communities are good models
[12:37] <West_coast> good point...worked well for centuries
[12:38] <humvee> had not thought of that qv but the same model
[12:38] <QueenVee> everyone has their own private home, feeds and clothes themselves.... but if a particular "family" is having problems, the group helps them out....
[12:38] <QueenVee> there are also collective activities, like hunting
[12:38] <humvee> like american poineer comunities
[12:39] <QueenVee> yes....
[12:39] <West_coast> Maybe a central location for meetings, discussions, problem solving
[12:40] <humvee> we cud sell survival town plans $29.95 paypal (just kidding)
[12:40] <West_coast> :)
[12:40] <QueenVee> yes, but the importance of allowing people a certain amount of independence is as important as collective cooperation.... otherwise resentment builds...
[12:40] <humvee> :-))
[12:41] <humvee> ppl in western comunities did not put requirements on good neighbors
[12:41] <QueenVee> yes, the whole point of cooperation is that its voluntary
[12:42] <QueenVee> done because if is mutually beneficial, not because it's imposed
[12:42] <humvee> tru we r partially hermits anyway
[12:42] <West_coast> QV: I agree..STO philosophy
[12:44] <QueenVee> a lot of these militia-type "survivalist communities" will be based on the military model, with STS-style hiearchies, etc.
[12:44] <West_coast> kind of scary..Yes?
[12:44] <QueenVee> yes
[12:45] <QueenVee> the means of control will be food, supplies, and shelter
[12:46] <humvee> better 3 b in isolated area not all ready orginized by others
[12:46] <humvee> 2
[12:46] <QueenVee> yes
[12:47] <QueenVee> these people who are already looking for "ready made" survival communities will be like sitting ducks....
[12:48] <humvee> quack - quack
[12:48] <West_coast> :)
[12:48] <humvee> r plans r 4 silent running 1st 6 months
[12:49] <QueenVee> the people who today are willing to sell their souls for a bit of security will do the same in the aftertime
[12:50] <QueenVee> the poleshift will definitely separate the what from the chaff
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[12:52] <skeleton> hi
[12:53] <humvee> hi
[12:53] <QueenVee> hello skeleton, long time no see
[12:54] <skeleton> yeah
[12:54] <skeleton> how are you doing ?
[12:54] <QueenVee> i'm good, you?
[12:55] <skeleton> not too bad
[12:55] <skeleton> just busy with school and helping my family move
[12:55] <skeleton> playing sitar
[12:55] <QueenVee> cool
[12:55] <QueenVee> still following zetatalk?
[12:56] <skeleton> yeah i havent read it in a few weeks so im catching up at this moment
[12:56] <skeleton> what news is there ?
[12:57] <QueenVee> nor much, escalating events....
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[12:58] <Ogmios> hi
[12:58] <West_coast> hi ogmios
[12:58] <West_coast> how is everythning in Finlandia?
[13:00] <Ogmios> weather is changing again
[13:00] <Ogmios> tomorrow more snow and wind
[13:00] <West_coast> east coast is in a deep freeze over here
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[13:05] <Ogmios> http://www.fmi.fi/en/index.html
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[13:08] <walt> for those in the US  http://www.nws.noaa.gov/
[13:08] <West_coast> I need my centigrade to F calculator..never can remember the formula
[13:09] <rallah> hi all
[13:10] <rallah> this chan about that zetatalk stuff alos?
[13:10] <rallah> also
[13:10] <Ogmios> http://www.futuresource.com/weather/cfcalc.asp
[13:10] <West_coast> hi rallah
[13:10] <rallah> hello there
[13:10] <humvee> hello rallah
[13:10] <rallah> i would like to ask some questions regarding the aproach
[13:11] <humvee> go ahead
[13:12] <rallah> ;)
[13:12] <rallah> i am also in earthchanges.. was asking some stuff there
[13:12] <rallah> dont know if i am rather bothering u experts
[13:12] <QueenVee> rallah: just ask the question
[13:13] <rallah> well i was wondering why those guys from planetx arent already in contact with us, if their planet is aproaching us and why they arent visiting or something...
[13:13] <humvee> not experts just have digested info offered on ZT
[13:13] <rallah> and some gravitational stuff...
[13:13] <rallah> why dont we feel any grav impacts from that planet by now
[13:13] <QueenVee> rallah: the inhabitants of PX, the annunaki, are quarantined from earth
[13:13] <rallah> when its already so close.. we feel grav impacts like tide and stuff from the moon in contrast
[13:13] <QueenVee> we ARE experiencing gravitational impacts
[13:14] <obany> rallah: have a moment
[13:14] <rallah> the moon is influencing earth each day multiple times
[13:14] <humvee> guys fm px r presetly baNNED FR HERE RE THEIR PAST INTIMIDATIONS
[13:14] <rallah> so where is the influence of that huge planet to the whole solar system
[13:14] <QueenVee> rallah: you clearly  haven't read the zetatalk site; if you read the POLESHIFT section, it will answer your questions
[13:14] <rallah> hmm ok i will try :)
[13:14] <QueenVee> rallah: please take note:
[13:14] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[13:15] <QueenVee> feel free to come back if you have questions after reading the site
[13:15] <rallah> i spent some time there already.. but its not easy to get some straight way thru that site
[13:15] <humvee> the px pos still puts it 14.4 billion miles or abt 1000 times as far as it will pass
[13:15] <rallah> ;)
[13:15] <QueenVee> rallah: no getting around it; you have to read it
[13:15] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t152.htm
[13:15] <QueenVee> start with the POLESHIFT section
[13:16] <QueenVee> see you later, then, rallah
[13:16] <humvee> there is very well layed out zt site we would only be ref u back till u read it
[13:16] <rallah> :)
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[13:16] <rallah> thanks anyways
[13:16] <humvee> np
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[13:17] <QueenVee> bye
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[13:18] <rallah> what happened?
[13:18] <rallah> why u guys kickin me
[13:19] <QueenVee> rallah: we politely referred you to the zetatalk site, and asked you to leave....
[13:19] <Ogmios> follow rules dude
[13:19] <rallah> oh i cant stay in here just cos i asked some questions?
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[13:19] <rallah> sorry.
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[13:19] <West_coast> ogmios: thanks for the link, now I can figure out what the real temp is..:)
[13:19] <Ogmios> :)
[13:19] <QueenVee> hello Dan
[13:20] <Danvaldan> hi all
[13:20] <Danvaldan> hi QV
[13:20] <Danvaldan> how the followup?
[13:21] <QueenVee> the followup?
[13:21] <Danvaldan> hey well I have a Q that may really be more appropriate for the sci.astro people buyt would yoouse guys humor me?
[13:22] <QueenVee> for a while
[13:22] <Danvaldan> heh - dont worrry its simple
[13:22] <Danvaldan> I got the fits viewer and am tryiog to make sense of the files posted
[13:22] <Danvaldan> thing is - I have never seen anything basic in the viewer - SO
[13:23] <Danvaldan> I am wondering if there are 'basic' file somewhere of orion, taurus...
[13:23] <QueenVee> i dunno dan
[13:23] <Danvaldan> do you look at the fits files?
[13:23] <humvee> Dan i loaded 3 dif fits file readers but how do u import the files into them?
[13:24] <Danvaldan> I got the ds9 and there just a file, open command
[13:24] <humvee> dan there is always new locators posted on zt there r 4 now inc new one on sightings page
[13:25] <humvee> i c the command but how do u drag n drop?
[13:25] <Danvaldan> well yes I can find but I think the posted fits are too zoomed in - ? I cant tell where the heck the constellations are
[13:25] <Danvaldan> oh I havent tried drag and drop
[13:25] <humvee> it is hard to locate but new 1 posted shows all stars close
[13:26] <Danvaldan> oh? ok - I will look - the one I downloaded was chosen at random from the batch...
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[13:26] <humvee> we can do it together ( humvee@hawaiian.net ) and jwilliam who is on team is a resource 4 that
[13:27] <humvee> also steve posted how 2 find info online zt/TT
[13:27] <Danvaldan> hmm =- well I am open to suggestions for the best one to look at -
[13:28] <Danvaldan> my other problem is the thing seems to be giving coordinates in pixels - I wasnt RA and DEC or whatever
[13:28] <humvee> the jpegs r always posted asap usually 2 days last pics are up 4 18jan2003
[13:28] <West_coast> will catch up with you all later..C U
[13:28] <sundar> They opened the I-90 from Boston to Seattle - so (easy) escape from East to Mid-west - unless traffic gets stuck in the tunnel
[13:28] <humvee> so by tom or so jpegs will appear
[13:29] <Danvaldan> cool -
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[13:29] <humvee> r u looking "there" by scope?
[13:29] <Danvaldan> all I have is a 60mm so I guess I am out of luck for a while -
[13:29] <Danvaldan> saving my $$$ for beans and pears
[13:30] <Danvaldan> QV - see that wasnt so bad..
[13:30] <humvee> @ the rate px is accel inbound only abt 2 weeks so practice with binoculars till u can locate the spot
[13:31] <humvee> good luck keep us posted
[13:31] <Danvaldan> I like to think of that as taurus' back
[13:31] <Danvaldan> 2 weeks? thats not bad -
[13:31] <Danvaldan> I cant really make out saturns rings with it...*sigh*
[13:32] <humvee> if u will b able 2 see w/out scope by late march jus think about it
[13:32] <Danvaldan> I guess so -
[13:32] <humvee> :-)
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[13:33] <Danvaldan> I am pretty familiar with Taurus and Orion by this point
[13:33] <Danvaldan> hi Tex
[13:33] <from_Texas> hi Danvaldan
[13:33] <humvee> me 2 (PS - i m very bad @ waiting 2 - no patiences)
[13:34] <Danvaldan> has there been a magnitude progression mentiond by zt? or a chart xcome up with by trhe readership?
[13:34] <humvee> use the time to prepare
[13:34] <humvee> I think those who r supposed 2 know find the info - but i spread the "WORD"
[13:35] <sundar> Humvee are you from Hawaii?
[13:35] <humvee> jus another cultist zetadrone - tag worn proudly
[13:35] <humvee> y Kauai
[13:36] <humvee> wer u
[13:36] <sundar> I am now in North Bay, CA
[13:36] <humvee> nice area - lo
[13:36] <sundar> Yeah - oflate lot of winter storms and cold
[13:36] <humvee> spent time there good mem
[13:36] <sundar> I heard that Hawaii receives 2nd highest rainfall in the world
[13:37] <humvee> hav u lost anybeach so far
[13:37] <humvee> fostercity repts boat doc going under
[13:37] <humvee> awash
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[13:37] <sundar> No beaches so far - but once in a month some swarm quakes, but lots of rain (particularly in napa valley)
[13:38] <ukuz_zzz> (o_o)
[13:38] <ukuz_zzz> (o_-)
[13:38] <humvee> hi cuz found any rental scopes in Hon?
[13:38] <Danvaldan> has anyone heard any info on the quake in Iraq a few days ago? or the one today in Honshu Japan?
[13:38] <ukuz_zzz> yo...
[13:39] <ukuz_zzz> oh no, i really forgot
[13:39] <ukuz_zzz> hehe
[13:39] <ukuz_zzz> sorry
[13:39] <ukuz_zzz> been busy
[13:39] <ukuz_zzz> :]
[13:39] <humvee> np - let me know i hav 6" on losan here
[13:39] <humvee> loan
[13:39] <ukuz_zzz> ok
[13:39] <Danvaldan> humvee - is it basically a dot in a 6"?
[13:40] <ukuz_zzz> ok
[13:40] <ukuz_zzz> bbl...
[13:40] <humvee> yes w/ film takes 25 mins or so - but not tracking so m working on that
[13:40] <ukuz_zzz> ok
[13:41] <Danvaldan> wow - 25 mins - and in 2 weeks visible with mine - yikes - ugh
[13:41] <sundar> I am seeing http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/bulletin.html and i do not see Honshu quake - perhaps not updated
[13:41] <humvee> Dan it really helps (must) = tracking
[13:41] <Danvaldan> I am looking at this one: http://www.emsc-csem.org/cgi-bin/ALERT_all_messages.sh
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[13:42] <Danvaldan> anon, what is your REAL name?
[13:43] <anon> does it really matter
[13:43] <humvee> that cant b rite emsc 12.5 germany
[13:43] <Danvaldan> does what really matter?
[13:43] <from_Texas> 2.5 humvee
[13:43] <anon> ya, we are headed for a pole shift, so what's in a name?
[13:43] <Danvaldan> yeah that 1st number is something else
[13:43] <humvee> oh thats better wud hav felt a 12 way over here LOL
[13:44] <humvee> 12 = earth like shaker o salt
[13:44] <obany> hi anon
[13:45] <anon> hi obany, you sure put in the hours here!
[13:45] <sundar> I am seeing in earth quake web site that swarm of quakes of mag 1-4 are happening almost daily in bay area - How about Hawaii on other side of tectonic plate humvee?
[13:45] <obany> anon?
[13:45] <obany> do i know you ?
[13:45] <anon> we have chatted on occasion
[13:46] <Danvaldan> catch you guys later - ciao
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[13:46] <humvee> not as much here of late - but pac rim o fire all lit up - lol
[13:46] <obany> okay ok anon
[13:47] <anon> great NL/ZT session here Sat
[13:47] <obany> yes it was ...
[13:48] <sundar> Is it an ancient custom in hawaii/pacific islands to sacrifice a virgin to a volanco to prevent eruption?
[13:49] <humvee> yes but I examine all comers on a daily basis but hav not found a VIRGIN let but will let u know
[13:50] <anon> (NancyL) ZT: For the people of Earth, the points they will be concerned with are that it IS going to happen, or not, which they are all entertaining as a possibility.
[13:50] <anon> (NancyL) ZT: That it IS going to happen will be determined, for many, when the 7 week period begins, and a reddish object is visible in the daytime sky.
[13:50] <humvee> (wife is very embarrased @ me) LOL
[13:50] <anon> those lines really hit home for me
[13:50] <anon> and that is when it will hit home for millions...
[13:51] <humvee> anon: 1 April 2003 will be that day of Renoun
[13:51] <anon> i think you are correct, no April Fool's joke this time....
[13:52] <humvee> or a GOODS one
[13:52] <anon> indeed, probably one of the best in history, which ever way it goes
[13:52] <humvee> 1 delivering the goods
[13:53] <anon> at least it will be in the public's mind at that time\
[13:53] <humvee> y n we r 2 b n r safe location by then
[13:54] <anon> i am there now
[13:54] <anon> but sometimes I think of just going to the coast and
[13:54] <humvee> excelent - we gone fm Hawaii
[13:54] <anon> letting it wash over me, thinking about things that will come to survivors
[13:54] <sundar> I am from India and i get from ZT that Pacific will sweep across India with 1000 m high deluge
[13:55] <humvee> is a type o mouning we all go thru - so get a grip
[13:55] <anon> and maybe, sundar, in some strange way your passing will be easier than others
[13:55] <humvee> will be too much happening after the ps 2 miss
[13:55] <humvee> want 2 be around myself - lol
[13:56] <anon> we will all likely pass on in some manner, when you think about it
[13:56] <sundar> Considering the fact that 1 billion lives will breathe last in 10 minutes time (including everyone i know)
[13:56] <anon> since only 10% chance of making it...
[13:57] <anon> yes, when we look at the big plan, it is just a transition...death that is
[13:57] <humvee> my dumb relitives here know & still r in HARD DINAL or we would stay 2 help (but not staying 2 die w/them) - lko
[13:57] <humvee> - lol
[13:57] <humvee> or nol
[13:58] <sundar> Humvee, consider a scenario where china air does not fly to Hawaii to get you out..
[13:58] <anon> i sympathize with you sundar...
[13:58] <humvee> we want 2 live long n prosper - HI Air N United tickets ready 2 confirm
[13:59] <anon> well good luck humvee
[13:59] <sundar> I  am not here for sympathies - but i am worried that we are obsessed with PS and we do not understand the value of human life and there is no indication that we must save lives of others
[13:59] <humvee> thanks  we hav an invite 2 any fam mem who will come
[14:00] <humvee> only 3 of us so far + dad already there MN
[14:00] <anon> point taken, if it is a certainy, then who cares where it is exactly now
[14:00] <anon> who cares how many moons are swirling, there are deeper things to consider
[14:01] <humvee> true but astronomy hobby is only possible til volcanic gloom starts so something 2 do @ nite
[14:01] <anon> life is vastly more important
[14:01] <anon> indeed, humvee, just getting philospophical i guess
[14:01] <anon> i have my scope dusted off as well
[14:02] <sundar> I would say, if i am lucky enough to have my UV packed with survival equipment speeding towards mid-west, definitely i would adopt orphans along the way - rather than pressing gas to reach the "safe" point on time..
[14:02] <humvee> I m plan 2 inc all my hobbies - now left unfulfilled as workg toooo much
[14:02] <anon> i tell you, if I see the PX April 1st I will quit my job and take the rest
[14:03] <humvee> true ur new relitives will jus show up
[14:03] <anon> of the time to be with my family
[14:03] <humvee> go camping w/them 2 practice
[14:03] <anon> indeed
[14:04] <humvee> well going 2 work on sorting things now parring down every day here
[14:04] <anon> might as well enjoy the final days instead of panicing
[14:04] <humvee> good luck n bye
[14:04] <anon> same to you, bye
[14:04] <sundar> bye
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[14:05] <anon> i live in NC, USA now in the mountains, came from Florida, USA just a year ago
[14:05] <anon> but I had not heard of PX at that time, funny how things work out
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[14:08] <anon> hi Buente
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[14:10] <Buente> hi
[14:11] <anon> where from B?
[14:14] <QueenVee> hello anon
[14:14] <anon> hello Queen
[14:14] <Buente> me from holland
[14:15] <anon> any px discussions in the media there?
[14:16] <anon> not much here, other than on the net
[14:16] <QueenVee> humvee: reading back on what i missed while i was gone.... so the volcano eruptions are due to the current lack of virgins, huh?
[14:16] <QueenVee> anon: there will NEVER be ANYTHING in the media about it
[14:17] <from_Texas> anon where are you from
[14:17] <anon> good point, hoping near the ps there may be, but unlikely
[14:17] <anon> moved from Florida to western NC just recently
[14:18] <anon> may survive the initial ps up here
[14:18] <from_Texas> that would be preferable
[14:18] <anon> are u staying in Texas then?
[14:19] <from_Texas> New Mexico is looking better everyday
[14:19] <anon> circumstances led me here
[14:19] <anon> i imagine NM does look better
[14:20] <anon> you may eventually find coastal property there, he he
[14:20] <from_Texas> I'm in west texas... just need to be a little further west
[14:20] <anon> at least you are not in Houston
[14:21] <from_Texas> indeed
[14:22] <anon> Houston Space Center must be sweating bullets about now
[14:22] <from_Texas> anyone there who has a clue should be
[14:23] <anon> bet some of the brass know
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[14:24] <from_Texas> I'm not sure they know what they need to know
[14:24] <anon> maybe as the lid has been pretty tight
[14:26] <anon> just being part of NASA, figured someone there might really know the story
[14:27] <from_Texas> I think they know a story
[14:29] <QueenVee> there are probably more "versions" than you can count, depending where you are in the hierarchy
[14:30] <anon> most likely, another trickeless down theory
[14:30] <from_Texas> I maybe from Texas but I can count pretty high...if I take my shoes off
[14:30] <anon> LOL
[14:30] <anon> 1 swirling moon, 2 swirling moons....
[14:32] <from_Texas> QV I'm writing that down... that you let me get by with one
[14:33] <QueenVee> lol
[14:33] <QueenVee> just distracted for a moment.... my mother telling me some silly story...
[14:33] <anon> Queen's immune system low like everyone else
[14:33] <QueenVee> you said it, anon
[14:33] <from_Texas> I'll take it anyway I can get it
[14:34] <QueenVee> i'm very tired today, my new dog gave me some trouble this morning
[14:34] <from_Texas> what's Henry doing now
[14:34] <QueenVee> went off after a rabbit and wouldn't come back for an hour
[14:34] <QueenVee> sleeping
[14:34] <anon> ive been down for a month now...trying to get away from a dry cough flu...
[14:34] <QueenVee> and staying out of my way if he knows what's good for him
[14:34] <from_Texas> lol
[14:34] <anon> he he, pets...
[14:35] <QueenVee> i think his love of the hunt will always be greater than any loyalty to me
[14:35] <anon> the ZT comments on pets this weekend made me reflect alot
[14:36] <anon> we have two cockatiels that are part of the family
[14:36] <anon> it will be hard to part with them if it comes to that
[14:36] <QueenVee> well, i just got this dog after my 16 year old cockerspaniel died; i deliberately chose a hunting dog so that he could take care of himself in the aftertime
[14:36] <QueenVee> and maybe bring home a rabbit now and then
[14:36] <anon> that is smart
[14:37] <QueenVee> if my cocker hadn't come to the end of his days, i would have had him put to sleep before the shift
[14:37] <anon> i dont look forward to that at all
[14:37] <anon> maybe i'll want to be put to sleep then, he he
[14:38] <QueenVee> but i'm having conflicted feelings about it all until the poleshift comes; Henry killed a cute little raccoon yesterday, and it really upset me....
[14:38] <anon> that is hard to deal with, and all pets are too cute to destroy
[14:39] <anon> but we may have to do alot of things we dont want to then
[14:39] <QueenVee> yep
[14:41] <QueenVee> well, excuse me, i'm off to have some supper
[14:41] <QueenVee> be back later
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[14:41] <Ogmios> Queenvee do you know who made finnish translation for Zetatalk?
[14:43] <anon> i need to go also, take care everyone, till next time....
[14:43] <from_Texas> later anon
[14:43] <anon> see ya tex
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[14:58] <meni> anybody here?
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[14:59] <Ogmios> i am
[14:59] <obany> and i am too
[15:00] <Ogmios> hi
[15:01] <obany> hi ogmios
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[15:10] <obany> hi
[15:10] <humveeafk> hi hi
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[15:30] <johnnie5> hi all.
[15:31] <johnnie5> i'm wondering if anyone can answer a question for me.
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[15:32] <QueenVee> hi johnnie, just got back
[15:32] <johnnie5> hi
[15:32] <QueenVee> wazzup?
[15:32] <johnnie5> i have qestion
[15:32] <QueenVee> okay
[15:33] <johnnie5> in reading the last zt chat log, someone said 75% of people involved in sessions are contactees or star children. true?
[15:34] <QueenVee> lol no
[15:34] <johnnie5> hmm...
[15:34] <QueenVee> nancy/zetas have never said anything like that
[15:34] <johnnie5> i wonder where that came from.  lol
[15:34] <QueenVee> who said it in the chat?
[15:34] <johnnie5> don't remember.
[15:34] <obany> johnnie15: well then you are reading old logs i think
[15:35] <johnnie5> actually, yesterday's log.
[15:35] <obany> well no no
[15:35] <QueenVee> can you cut and paste what was said?
[15:36] <johnnie5> don't know how to cut and paste, but was near top of page.
[15:36] <from_Texas> 16:50] (AGreenspan) 3.Keeping in mind that 75% of participants in sessions, are either Star Children and/or Contactees, a huge statistical skew - NOT a coincidence, What are all the reasons and objectives behind Zeta Talk?
[15:36] <johnnie5> ty
[15:36] <QueenVee> fast on the draw, there tex
[15:36] <johnnie5> that's it!
[15:36] <QueenVee> johnnie: this Greenspan guy is a nutbar
[15:36] <johnnie5> lol
[15:36] <obany> QueenVee: well if you have a minut
[15:37] <QueenVee> yes....
[15:37] <johnnie5> nutbar.  that's a new one
[15:37] <obany> the zetas have mentioned it a few times in #zetatalk when someone asked about the participants
[15:37] <QueenVee> he always makes these bold statements of "fact" that have no basis whatsoever
[15:37] <obany> moment
[15:37] <QueenVee> obany: find me a link, i don't believe it
[15:37] <QueenVee> i recall people asking the question and nancy refusing to answer it
[15:40] <johnnie5> i don't get these chat room debunker types. why don't they just leave? why hang around and call everyone a nut box?
[15:40] <obany> QueenVee: well because it has been asked before
[15:41] <QueenVee> johnnie: human nature i guess; they are responding from fear
[15:41] <johnnie5> fear? yeah. i guess i can see that.
[15:42] <QueenVee> well, think about it, johnnie. if you think something is just nonsense, do you spend much time and energy on it?
[15:43] <johnnie5> no. i go away. i don't waste my time trying to take everyone with me. i just leave.
[15:43] <QueenVee> if someone were to tell you tomorrow that we were all about to turn blue on a certain date, would you devote a lot of time and energy to telling people who believe that that they area WRONG?
[15:43] <QueenVee> right.... but these people are obssessed with the subject
[15:44] <QueenVee> they can't leave it alone
[15:44] <johnnie5> apparently they are quite obsessed.
[15:44] <obany> queen from August http://www.zetatalk.com/index/caug1002.htm
[15:44] <QueenVee> my theory is that deep inside they know there is truth to it, but are in denial. the only way to relieve their anxiety about it is to scream very loudly that IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
[15:44] <johnnie5> oh, well. to each their own.
[15:45] <QueenVee> obany: don't make me read the whole thing, can you cut and paste the part you want me to read
[15:45] <QueenVee> i just did a quick search for the figure "75", no luck....
[15:45] <obany> btw not sure how many folks where in the channel at that time
[15:45] <obany> (NancyL) ZT to Terror re %: Fully have are Star Children, including some apparent adversaries, and of the remaining 50%, over a half are contactees.
[15:45] <obany> (NancyL) ZT: Those not already contactees are thinking about it.
[15:45] <obany> (NancyL) End ZT.
[15:46] <QueenVee> hold on....
[15:46] <johnnie5> thinking about what?
[15:46] <QueenVee> obany: i can't see Terror's question....
[15:47] <obany> (TerrorDactyl) Can the Zeta's give a percentage for the number of contactees in this IRC room?
[15:47] <QueenVee> well
[15:47] <QueenVee> i'm be darned
[15:48] <QueenVee> i stand corrected and apologize
[15:48] <QueenVee> i'm very surprised
[15:48] <QueenVee> very very surprised
[15:48] <johnnie5> far out. thanks obany. that answers my question to a t!
[15:49] <obany> for what i remember it has been answered also before that .. but then the answer didn't get answered anymore ..
[15:49] <obany> question
[15:49] <QueenVee> has nancy ever said how many starchildren and/or contactees on earth at present?
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[15:50] <johnnie5> lots and lots of star children i think. a million or so.
[15:51] <QueenVee> mmmm -- and has ZT ever said what percentage of poleshift survivors will be starchildren and/or contactees?
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[15:51] <johnnie5> not that i remember.
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[15:51] <QueenVee> begs the question, though
[15:51] <johnnie5> yep
[15:52] <QueenVee> what can we do for you "hi"?
[15:52] <obany> QueenVee: moment
[15:52] <hi> im sorry im just checking out my new device
[15:52] <hi> u just kicked me off
[15:52] <hi> i was fart
[15:52] <QueenVee> whenever obany does that, it makes me think of the computer HAL in 2001: "Just a moment, Dave"....
[15:52] <hi> bye
[15:52] <johnnie5> lol
[15:52] <hi> i needa check something else
[15:53] <hi> later
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[15:53] <QueenVee> what can we do for you, leanbean?
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[15:55] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v70.htm  http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b93.htm
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[15:58] <QueenVee> well
[15:58] <QueenVee> extremely useful info, obany
[15:59] <johnnie5> i'm gonna go, too. want to look something up on tt. later all.
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[15:59] <QueenVee> thank you very much
[15:59] <QueenVee> i again apologize
[16:00] <obany> :)
[16:00] <QueenVee> i wonder, though...
[16:01] <QueenVee> in this ZT section, what the definition of "contactee" is... seems to be implying that just seeing a ufo makes you a contactee: http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b21.htm
[16:03] <obany> this is about starchildren
[16:04] <QueenVee> sorry, i meant this page: http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v70.htm
[16:06] <obany> well one could do the call etc, so yes . keep in mind that there are even people who don't know that they are contactees
[16:06] <QueenVee> mmm
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[16:07] <obany> and i think you read that too in zetatalk
[16:08] <QueenVee> mmmm, well, if there are a billion star children, and 12,000 contactees, would it be safe to assume that all of those are at least unconsciously aware of the coming poleshift?
[16:10] <QueenVee> and since less than the number of people are expecting to survive the poleshift, and presumably it is not ONLY star children and contactees who would survive the poleshift, then presumably a lot of star children and contactees will die during or after the poleshift along with others?>
[16:11] <obany> i would  think so ...
[16:12] <QueenVee> i am curious as to what specific things that these starchildren are doing to "assist with the transformation".....
[16:12] <QueenVee> other than spielberg... hehe
[16:14] <Ogmios> i am going now. goodnight
[16:14] <QueenVee> from this page: http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t66.htm : Not all contactees have foreknowledge of the coming cataclysms
[16:15] <Ogmios> see you later bye
[16:15] <QueenVee> nite ogmios
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[16:16] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r35.htm
[16:20] <QueenVee> obany: a question, are you still there?
[16:21] <QueenVee> the page you just gave me says "Due to the Earth's orientation vote being Service-to-Other, only incarnations by those in the Service-to-Other are allowed". i understood that AFTER the poleshift only service to other incarnations would be allowed. but this implies that since the vote none would be allowed... but that doesn't make sense, since....
[16:21] <QueenVee> ...since there have obviously been many STS and UNDECIDED entities born since then
[16:22] <QueenVee> sorry, that's not from the page you gave me.... it's from this page.... http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t66.htm
[16:24] <obany> could we talk about this later on .. ehehe it's almost 1:30am here
[16:24] <obany> :)
[16:26] <QueenVee> hehe
[16:26] <QueenVee> sorry
[16:26] <QueenVee> okay
[16:26] <QueenVee> i have to reboot my computer anyway
[16:26] <obany> if it's about the Service to Others, it's about the starchilderen on  http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r35.htm
[16:27] <QueenVee> okay, we'll talk about it another time
[16:27] <obany> . Due to the Earth's orientation vote being Service-to-Other, only incarnations by those in the Service-to-Other are allowed. The Service-to-Self entity from another world must arrange for a walk-in or possession in order to incarnate.
[16:27] <obany> you see
[16:27] <QueenVee> yes, but since WHEN has this rule beein in place, about STO only being allowed to incarnate?
[16:29] <QueenVee> OH!!!
[16:29] <QueenVee> I SEE!!!
[16:29] <QueenVee> of the STAR CHILDREN being incarnated, only those STAR CHILDREN who are STO are allowed to incarnate
[16:30] <QueenVee> no STS star children allowed
[16:30] <QueenVee> duh
[16:30] <QueenVee> okay, i understand now
[16:30] <QueenVee> alright, gotta reboot. later.
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[16:33] <humvee> well by definition we all came from the stars @ some point
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[16:44] <sundar> Hi humvee,  for the astronomically challenged (like me), i have found a website which describes the constellations http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/java/Reticulum.html
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[16:50] <from_Texas> QV do you need a boost
[16:51] <QueenVee> a boost?
[16:51] <from_Texas> in status
[16:51] <from_Texas> your not op
[16:51] <QueenVee> hah
[16:51] <QueenVee> no, my ego is okay right now
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[17:03] <tenshu`werk> Gah
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[17:04] <humvee> hello tenshu hows the feet
[17:04] <tenshu> TIS IN PAIN
[17:04] <tenshu> :(
[17:05] <humvee> try the foot massager I will check i think bought @ sears
[17:05] <tenshu> ahh.. it's because of my stupid worthless shoes
[17:05] <tenshu> :(
[17:05] <tenshu> they aren't thick or anything. they are just like.. hard at the bottom
[17:05] <humvee> here always wear rubber slippers (flip flops)
[17:06] <tenshu> can't
[17:06] <tenshu> job specifies black shoes :(
[17:06] <humvee> too cold?
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[17:06] <humvee> oh there got 2 be some like that n r comfortable
[17:06] <DRG-away> hello everybody long time no see.
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[17:07] <humvee> hello DrG
[17:07] <QueenVee> hello green
[17:07] <QueenVee> tenshu: what's the new job?
[17:07] <DRGREEN> everytime I see Ukuz in a channel he's sleeping.
[17:08] <tenshu> i work over at the movie theater
[17:08] <tenshu> it's awesome for my age =P
[17:08] <tenshu> free movies = when i go out on a date, free movie.
[17:08] <tenshu> so I CAN KEEP THE CASH
[17:08] <tenshu> =D
[17:08] <DRGREEN> how old are you tenchu? free movies?
[17:08] <DRGREEN> yeah!
[17:08] <tenshu> yeah i'm 16
[17:09] <humvee> @16 free movies are a +
[17:09] <DRGREEN> tenshu, is that manga or something?
[17:09] <tenshu> haha it's japanese
[17:10] <humvee> we trade 4 free movie passes here
[17:10] <tenshu> :)
[17:10] <humvee> free is still good @ 57
[17:10] <tenshu> man.. i like it
[17:11] <DRGREEN> Where you from tenshu? Are you preparing for the shift expected to hit in may?
[17:11] <tenshu> people i can talk to and stuff
[17:11] <tenshu> yep, that's what this money is going towards. i'm still building up the courage to tell my parents =\
[17:11] <DRGREEN> that's difficult.
[17:12] <DRGREEN> Are they open to alternative views, meaning other than what the establishment tells us?
[17:12] <humvee> ten soon better pictures of px will help with that
[17:12] <tenshu> that's what i'm waiting for and no drgreen
[17:12] <tenshu> my dad talked to me once about religion but not much.
[17:12] <tenshu> he's too into me going to school, getting a job, going to college, etc etc
[17:12] <DRGREEN> that's difficult.
[17:12] <DRGREEN> damn.
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[17:13] <QueenVee> hi islander
[17:13] <islander> hi queenvee
[17:13] <tenshu> yeah
[17:13] <tenshu> my mom.. she stressed out about the most ..weird things
[17:13] <tenshu> she hits a box with her foot and she starts crying
[17:14] <tenshu> cuz things are "not going the way she wants them"
[17:14] <tenshu> i'm like "...omg"
[17:14] <DRGREEN> humvee, I had our imaging session planned for this weekend, but my grandmother just died (peacefully), so it will probably be next week.
[17:15] <DRGREEN> By the way, the moon is pretty bright too these days, I'll wait for it to reflect less light.
[17:15] <QueenVee> condolences, green
[17:15] <DRGREEN> thank you.
[17:15] <tenshu> i saw the ring of the moon teh other day
[17:15] <tenshu> like the light.. it was pretty cool
[17:15] <humvee> sorry to hear that re ur grandmom we will have lots o time 2 do imaging however
[17:16] <humvee> I am enjoying looking @ all the things near px position
[17:16] <DRGREEN> I'm really curious how Naji's latest set turns out...
[17:17] <humvee> figure one nite something even more interesting will pop into view - LOL
[17:17] <tenshu> once i get solid pictures of px (which the new images probably could do, but my mom is so lost on astronomy she doesn't even know what orion would be)
[17:17] <DRGREEN> Somehow I cannot process his files, gives me all garbled results.
[17:17] <tenshu> i'ma tell my dad first.. my mom would make a scene.. :(
[17:18] <humvee> soon shud b actual pistures as moon swirl shows is starting 2 happen
[17:18] <DRGREEN> bring it patiently, otherwise he might think you've become a member of some sect/cult
[17:18] <tenshu> i know.
[17:18] <humvee> i will image with oldfashoned film is MORE reliable anyway
[17:18] <tenshu> that's what i've done with all my friends.
[17:19] <tenshu> i've introduced them ... with basic information.. gave it time to sink in
[17:19] <tenshu> then introduced them to sites (like zetatalk) that are more informative
[17:19] <DRGREEN> You must be pretty smart for being able to talk about such subjects at your age in your environment.
[17:19] <humvee> we dont want 2 b feared ZETADRONES u know - LOL
[17:19] <DRGREEN> :)
[17:21] <DRGREEN> So... How's the weather :)
[17:21] <tenshu> haha i do what i can
[17:22] <humvee> is overcast cool (4 here) drizzle in hawaii
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[17:22] <DRGREEN> luckily most of my friends, my mother, brother and sister are all very open to these topics.
[17:22] <tenshu> i just told my brother
[17:22] <DRGREEN> My mom was the one who introduced me to ZT.
[17:23] <humvee> r family is pretty split
[17:23] <QueenVee> hello martha
[17:23] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room, Martha?
[17:23] <Martha> please stop it queenvee, every time I log in you always say hi welcome to the room, then you say all this bull crap. BYE
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[17:23] <DRGREEN> how did that work out? "Yo bro, I'll tell ya the world is going to end in four months!"
[17:23] <QueenVee> bye martha
[17:24] <tenshu> actually it was more like "hey douche bag, a big planet is gonna come and cause a shift. good luck"
[17:24] <tenshu> nah
[17:24] <DRGREEN> :)
[17:24] <from_Texas> I don't recall martha ever being here
[17:24] <tenshu> wasn't like that. i talked to him pretty calmly about it. he asked questions and i answered him
[17:25] <DRGREEN> How did he ask them? Did he let you talk while he listened patiently or did he force his questions upon you, while you where speaking?
[17:25] <humvee> martha must be "lerker1"
[17:25] <tenshu> nah he listened
[17:25] <tenshu> he asked questions like what iw as gonna do for it
[17:25] <tenshu> and what time was it going to happen around
[17:26] <tenshu> he's been tellin a few of o his friends. they have this whole thing planned out.. lol.
[17:26] <DRGREEN> What are you going to do? Where are you?
[17:26] <DRGREEN> cool
[17:26] <tenshu> I actually want to leave where I'm at but being my age I can't do that
[17:26] <tenshu> i'm in Westfield, Indiana
[17:26] <tenshu> ......
[17:26] <tenshu> South of Kokomo
[17:26] <DRGREEN> sure you can...
[17:26] <tenshu> by a few miles.
[17:26] <DRGREEN> is that in the USA?
[17:26] <tenshu> yeah
[17:26] <tenshu> it's the Kokomo, Indiana
[17:26] <tenshu> ZetaTalk talks about
[17:26] <tenshu> the underground bunker
[17:27] <DRGREEN> you're a typing maniac.
[17:27] <tenshu> haha
[17:27] <humvee> i dont think their bunker will b good in Richter 11 quake
[17:27] <tenshu> well neither will anything else
[17:27] <DRGREEN> do you have som emoney tenshu?
[17:27] <tenshu> lil bit.. mom forced me to dig into savings for the car
[17:27] <tenshu> :(
[17:27] <humvee> shallow trench will b better
[17:28] <humvee> :-)
[17:28] <tenshu> i'm planning on leaving to West Virigina in around March I believe.. friend won't have everything ready til then.
[17:28] <tenshu> he's makin a place, methinks.
[17:28] <tenshu> i'm getting supplies and gonna bring it over
[17:28] <DRGREEN> how much? $500-$1.000? $5.000-$10.000?
[17:28] <DRGREEN> a?
[17:28] <DRGREEN> b?
[17:29] <tenshu> i just turned 16 so i had about $1,000 bucks int eh bank. between insurance and not having a job at the time and having to get gas money
[17:29] <tenshu> it drained pretty fast
[17:29] <DRGREEN> You know, even with answer a you could hire a bus and buy some matrasses.
[17:29] <DRGREEN> dig it in and survive.
[17:29] <tenshu> yeah.. true.
[17:29] <tenshu> i'm having a few dilemmas.
[17:29] <DRGREEN> such as?
[17:30] <tenshu> 1) i can't build upt eh courage to talk to my family about it
[17:30] <tenshu> 2) everytime i try to leave, my friends give me these guilt trips.. and as much as i want to take them wit me, i can't
[17:30] <DRGREEN> why not?
[17:30] <DRGREEN> why not?
[17:30] <tenshu> like i said, parents are too "simple minded".. i almost told my mom one night but i mean..
[17:30] <walt> yep I agree, sending them to ZT, might get you seeing a shrink
[17:31] <DRGREEN> :)
[17:31] <tenshu> yeah i just don't feel too comfortable with them yet
[17:31] <DRGREEN> and friends?
[17:31] <tenshu> parents are divorced too.
[17:31] <tenshu> my friends.. *sigh*
[17:31] <walt> there are other types of emergencies to prepare for
[17:31] <DRGREEN> wich one you live with?
[17:31] <tenshu> okay, one of my friends didn't make it obvious but he eventually wrote it down on paper and i got it a few days ago
[17:31] <tenshu> mom
[17:31] <DRGREEN> yes
[17:32] <tenshu> these friends of mine i've known basically through rough years and we been there for each other.
[17:32] <tenshu> one of my friends is kinda hinting to the sts side.. (though of course, we are all undecided at the moment.. it's just noticeable traits.)
[17:32] <DRGREEN> some are not I gather, but most are yes
[17:33] <DRGREEN> continue, sorry
[17:33] <tenshu> but i mean.. sigh.. and it's me.
[17:33] <tenshu> as much as i believe in this and everything..
[17:33] <humvee> I m now giving out n post on local store bulitin boards:  Re May 2003 high winds & ocean tidal surge predicted Kauai Residents are preparing: www.shift2003.com/
[17:33] <tenshu> i can't get myself up and just leave.. an di know it's cutting it really short and i more than likely will not survive now
[17:33] <DRGREEN> so, wrong friends, simple minded parents and not a lot of courage is the problem?
[17:33] <tenshu> but i have to be here with my friends and family.
[17:33] <humvee> has ben real handy little notes
[17:34] <tenshu> yeah green
[17:34] <tenshu> to sum it all up
[17:34] <DRGREEN> you know, I'll just snap my fingers and you're cured!
[17:34] <DRGREEN> :)
[17:34] <tenshu> indeed, if it were that simple..
[17:34] <tenshu> my family would be all over me if i just dropped out of school
[17:34] <DRGREEN> this might sound strange, but it is.
[17:35] <tenshu> my mom can see it though.. she asks me all the time about it.
[17:35] <DRGREEN> I've just not found out how to do it yet.
[17:35] <walt> about what?
[17:35] <tenshu> hehe
[17:35] <tenshu> about dropping out
[17:35] <tenshu> and my dad always preaches about school
[17:35] <walt> stay in
[17:35] <tenshu> about how it's the great living
[17:36] <DRGREEN> what crap man.
[17:36] <tenshu> well i've wanted to drop out not just because of this whole px thing..
[17:36] <tenshu> i don't like it
[17:36] <tenshu> i don't like how they strip away our free will just so a few teachers can earn some money
[17:36] <tenshu> we have to be taught what they want to teach us, not what we want to be taught
[17:36] <DRGREEN> stupid tenshu, it's your soul who decided to live with them! maybe there is your lesson. :)
[17:37] <tenshu> i know it was my self making the decision
[17:37] <tenshu> i don't mind it i just don't agree with it
[17:37] <tenshu> but again the whole age factor and "naiveness" comes into play here.
[17:37] <tenshu> i supposively don't know what i want for myself
[17:37] <tenshu> but everyone else can decide for me
[17:38] <walt> what do you want for yourself?
[17:38] <DRGREEN> You've stepped outside of the system and you feel alone?
[17:38] <tenshu> i want myself to be able to explore this world
[17:38] <walt> and how you going to do that?
[17:38] <tenshu> and i want to explore more of the world outside of this
[17:38] <tenshu> are you going to tell me that i have to go through school and get a job? i get the point about that.
[17:38] <tenshu> i don't want that
[17:38] <DRGREEN> no
[17:38] <DRGREEN> of course not.
[17:39] <walt> I will
[17:39] <walt> unless you independently wealthy
[17:39] <tenshu> it's the point that we just sit here, waste our lives away just so some people can enjoy a illusional happiness
[17:39] <tenshu> the hungry elite that has the power to lie and decieve the people they govern
[17:39] <tenshu> i don't agree with that. i never have
[17:40] <DRGREEN> I hate every bit of the system. School teaches wrong in the first place. Most of this crap society is based on 2.000 years of war and stupidity, yet most people take it serious.
[17:40] <tenshu> it's hypocritical. we teach ourselves but yet we don't learn from the mistakes.
[17:40] <tenshu> and we continue to make the same mistakes we were taught
[17:40] <DRGREEN> yes.
[17:40] <tenshu> yes no one is perfect but what the hell.
[17:41] <tenshu> you are shown a mistake and the result.
[17:41] <tenshu> yet you do it?
[17:41] <walt> uh huh, like quiting school?
[17:41] <tenshu> what's the mistake about quitting school? that i don't earn a degree and am acknowledged in society?
[17:41] <tenshu> okay. yea i want that life.
[17:41] <humvee> DRG: not all of us take the crap seriously / most places in history we were either slaves or acted like ones
[17:41] <DRGREEN> I liked quiting school. Lots of time to do important things.
[17:42] <walt> sure DR
[17:43] <tenshu> my views are my views, though. you may think that's a better life, so people see you as something.
[17:43] <walt> dont care what people see
[17:43] <walt> but you arent going anywhere wuthout the almight dollar
[17:43] <DRGREEN> seriously. All valuable things I know in life did not come from school. I shit on school.  If one's mind is open you can teach yourself.
[17:44] <DRGREEN> now i make money doing nothing. Chill eh?
[17:44] <tenshu> who cares about the dollar? i'm not letting that run my life
[17:44] <tenshu> telling me which direction to take
[17:44] <walt> remember this chat when your 20-25 40 and 65
[17:45] <DRGREEN> no. but people see earning money as productive. I make it doing nothing, just a little update here and there. No school, just thinking.
[17:45] <tenshu> i'll remember my whole life
[17:47] <DRGREEN> and then walt?
[17:47] <tenshu> tell me this.
[17:47] <walt> see how much your attitude has changed
[17:48] <DRGREEN> hey Walt, I'm sorry are you talking to me?
[17:48] <tenshu> if i spent my child hood, 0-10 years old, watching my parents fighting, watching my family fight with each other, watching all the hatred and all the violence come out between them
[17:48] <tenshu> how come, to this day, i only see beauty in this world? through all that, all the pain my parents inflicted on me, physically and mentally
[17:49] <tenshu> never was i shown a moment more than a minute of love
[17:49] <QueenVee> tenshu: uh... i wouldn't say that.... you just spent a great deal of time in this room complaining....
[17:49] <tenshu> i'm not complaining
[17:49] <tenshu> i've been asked and im answering
[17:49] <tenshu> so forget it
[17:49] <tenshu> i won't finish
[17:49] <DRGREEN> beauty in this world? I cannot see, hate is in the way.
[17:50] <QueenVee> tenshu: your life hasn't been any more difficult than most people's, and a lot easier than some....
[17:50] <DRGREEN> soryy, gotta go this place is closing. See ya all later nice talking to u tenshu bye all best to you.
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[17:50] <tenshu> did i say that? did i say that mine was the all time worse?
[17:50] <walt> "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement"
[17:51] <QueenVee> everyone's parents inflict pain on them
[17:51] <tenshu> just end it
[17:51] <tenshu> i'm done
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[17:54] <QueenVee> hello muggada
[17:55] <humvee> hellow Muggada
[17:55] <Muggada> G;day  all
[17:55] <humvee> wats going on down under
[17:55] <Muggada> Queen did u get the email i just sent
[17:56] <Muggada> about the fires in canberra
[17:56] <QueenVee> muggada: yes, indeed. thank you.
[17:56] <Muggada> that observatory is well visited
[17:56] <Muggada> ort was
[17:57] <humvee> QueenVee i hav abt 6 email that Outlookexpress is blocking the paperclip info any idea how 2 unblock/read
[17:58] <QueenVee> humvee: no, sorry, i don't know anything about outlookexpress...
[17:58] <Muggada> not sure but seems to be seperate fires
[17:58] <humvee> oh - no info on help page - lol - pretty arrogant program
[17:59] <humvee> i jus delete anything with a paper clip
[18:00] <QueenVee> muggada: well, it's certainly interesting....
[18:07] <Muggada> ,
[18:07] <QueenVee> unbelievable what is happening in canberra
[18:08] <from_Texas> they showed pictures today of the burned observatory on the news
[18:08] <Muggada> very dry bush land there ,, every where
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[18:09] <zepar> hello all
[18:10] <QueenVee> Muggada: i understand that it is far from under control, there is fear of it spreading further
[18:10] <QueenVee> hello zepar -- what brings you to this room?
[18:11] <from_Texas> well i certainly have been thinking of you while seeing all the news of your area
[18:11] <QueenVee> very frightening
[18:11] <QueenVee> this line in particular from a recent news report: "There are fears nine separate fires could merge to form a giant unstoppable wall of flames..... "
[18:12] <from_Texas> it is interesting when you feel you know someone in a distant area.. the news from that area seems much closer to home
[18:15] <QueenVee> zepar: ARE YOU THERE?
[18:16] <zepar> yep
[18:16] <QueenVee> no idling in this channel zepar
[18:17] <QueenVee> i asked earlier (and you didn't respond) -- what brings you to this room?
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[18:18] <QueenVee> he Richard. we're just discussing the fires in Australia
[18:18] * zepar was kicked by QueenVee (buh bye)
[18:19] <Richard> hi all
[18:19] <Richard> hi Queen
[18:19] <Richard> glad I don't live over there
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[18:20] <QueenVee> people must feel that they're in the midst of armageddon
[18:20] <QueenVee> zepar: what brings you BACK to this room?
[18:20] <zepar> i have been here many times talking and trying to get others to talk
[18:20] <Richard> feel sorry for those who will receive a double whammy
[18:21] <zepar> i have told others about our classes for out kids in my group
[18:21] <Richard> IE fire now and again in a few months time
[18:21] <zepar> i have been here about 20 times in  the past 2 weeks
[18:21] <QueenVee> zepar: oh, okay. you could have said that when i asked.
[18:21] <zepar> but got booted for not talking when im the one who does the most talking when im on
[18:22] <zepar> i was typing when i got booted
[18:22] <QueenVee> okay, calm down
[18:22] <from_Texas> zepar your from ohio... right
[18:22] <zepar> if this room gets booted when you dont talk then all the times i have been on there should have been about 17 people booted
[18:22] <Richard> I've spent half the day listing my private music collection for sale to raise (hopefully) some needed money for more suppliers etc
[18:23] <Richard> walt are you here?
[18:23] <QueenVee> zepar: you didn't respond to me, that was the only problem
[18:23] <zepar> i have tried many time to get chat started about prep sutff that might help my group or others but nobody seems to talk just listen
[18:23] <QueenVee> zepar: you seem to be overstating that
[18:24] <QueenVee> i'm here almost all the time, and i don't recall you being here that often
[18:24] <zepar> its important to me to listen and help with our trys to prep
[18:24] <QueenVee> you have perhaps come at quiet times
[18:24] <zepar> im normally here after 10pm est and you are not on mostly around that itme
[18:24] <zepar> i guess
[18:25] <walt> yep
[18:25] <QueenVee> well, i have to sleep sometime
[18:25] <zepar> but there is still people on and i try to get something going and no go
[18:25] <QueenVee> its unfortunate you always come here after hours when there's no moderator on
[18:25] <zepar> i understand you queenvee
[18:25] <Richard> anyone here worked with Anderson Shelters?
[18:26] <Richard> curved corrugated iron
[18:26] <Richard> like a goat house or used in Britain WW2
[18:26] <walt> those the bomb shelters of WW2?
[18:26] <walt> ok
[18:26] <Richard> that's the ones walt
[18:26] <QueenVee> Richard: i've heard of them; someone gave me a link once....
[18:26] <Richard> I have a question
[18:26] <QueenVee> shoot, richard
[18:27] <Richard> in the war the shelter supplied wastwo lengths of c/iron with a bend at tope
[18:27] <Richard> you then put a bolt through to join two halfs
[18:27] <Richard> however today
[18:28] <Richard> they make the c/iron one length and with the bend alreadyin it'
[18:28] <Richard> do you think a fulllength would be safer than two pieces
[18:28] <Richard> new zealand will experience sliding not jolting during quakes
[18:29] <Richard> common sense says to me one piece in a sliding situation will be safer
[18:29] <Richard> than two halfs joined at the top
[18:29] <QueenVee> Richard: i can't seem to find a link about the current shelters, just historical articles -- do yhou have a link?
[18:29] <Richard> so I'm looking for opinion
[18:29] <walt> "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement"
[18:30] <walt> http://webpdp.gator.com/v3/webpdp_v3_plugin.php?yic=HIC_FortuneCityDT4
[18:30] <Richard> I only have those historical links Q
[18:30] <Richard> have you used Anderson Shelters walt?
[18:31] <QueenVee> walt: sorry, but you can only post the same truism once within any given hour....
[18:31] <Richard> lol
[18:32] <QueenVee> hehe
[18:32] <walt> all it is, is a corrogated pipe with a front and back bolted on
[18:32] <walt> had bunks in it
[18:33] <walt> and a few shelves
[18:33] <walt> that link has a diagram of one
[18:33] <Richard> was curve at top continous?
[18:33] <Richard> link won't me to install some program
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[18:34] <QueenVee> hi nightbird
[18:34] <Nightbird> Hi Everyone
[18:34] <Nightbird> Hi Queen
[18:34] <Richard> :)
[18:34] <walt> it was a tube(pipe)
[18:34] <QueenVee> Richard: are you considering the anderson shelter as a shelter during the shift?
[18:34] <Richard> I can erect one Anderson Shelter for approx US$150
[18:34] <walt> probablt 6-8 ft in dia
[18:35] <Richard> yes for shift Q
[18:35] <Richard> dirt on top
[18:35] <Richard> so am picking dug into hillside would be best
[18:35] <QueenVee> i see
[18:35] <Richard> British war method had lots of flooding problems
[18:36] <QueenVee> wish i had a picture of one....
[18:36] <Richard> as they dug down into the ground
[18:36] <QueenVee> yeah, that's what i read, flooding problems
[18:36] <walt> I would think a flat area would be better
[18:36] <walt> there is a diagram of one on that link I posted
[18:36] <Richard> but if slight slope put on floor and then pellets on yop should sort problem (I hope)
[18:37] <walt> going to have flooding problems no matter what kind os shelter you get
[18:37] <Richard> true
[18:37] <walt> except the sealed ones
[18:37] <Richard> have purchased two army type sleeping bags
[18:37] <Richard> will take cold down to minus 8
[18:38] <QueenVee> zepar: what part of the world are you in, again?
[18:38] <walt> put a  drain system in it
[18:38] <Richard> mind you cold won't be a factor here I won't think
[18:38] <Richard> will do walt
[18:39] <Richard> if the worst comes to the worst wife & I will drive into ranges and just find a layby to hunker down
[18:39] <Richard> but ideally hoping to find a property to rent (legit)
[18:40] <Richard> and DIG
[18:40] <Richard> walt: can you resend that link please
[18:42] <walt> http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/meltingpot/oxford/330/shel/shel2.html
[18:42] <Richard> was that the same one you sent the first time?
[18:43] <Richard> 1st time it asked me to install some programme/this time it didn't
[18:43] <Richard> hmmm
[18:43] <QueenVee> thanks for that link, walt
[18:44] <Richard> Q saw a headline today "Bush to send nuclear rocket to Mars"
[18:44] <Richard> right!!
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[18:46] <QueenVee> hello paz -- what brings you to this room
[18:47] <QueenVee> Richard: indeed
[18:47] <Nightbird> Rich, are you going to have some form of electricity in your shelter?
[18:47] <Richard> no nbird
[18:47] <Richard> cold food & porridge for a week
[18:47] <QueenVee> NB: it's just a shelter for the shift itself
[18:47] <Nightbird> OK.. thats out then, I was going to suggest a sump pump
[18:47] <paz`exe> studying the poleshift, and how the awakening will prevail. how are you?
[18:48] <Richard> gonna be real basics here
[18:48] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[18:48] <paz`exe> a few weeks.
[18:48] <Nightbird> One of our shelters.. has a problem with leaking when it rains.. we have a sump pump pump it out..
[18:48] <Richard> what type of shelter NB?
[18:49] <QueenVee> paz: so what are you doing to prepare for the shift? what area do you live in?
[18:49] <Nightbird> That one is an old oil field tank.. buried under ground
[18:49] <Nightbird> That was our original storm cellar
[18:49] <paz`exe> i live in the middle US area, going to purify as much as possible
[18:49] <Richard> i rang roofing people today to check out corrugated iron
[18:49] <Richard> curved c/iron
[18:50] <Nightbird> till it started raining badly... causing us to notice the leak... husband thinks he has fixed the problem
[18:50] <QueenVee> paz: purify?
[18:50] <Richard> had to say on phone "I'm looking for a goat house
[18:50] <Nightbird> yep.. sheet iron is cheap
[18:50] <Nightbird> LOL
[18:50] <QueenVee> Richard: lol, yeah, yeah, i swear, it's for the goats....
[18:50] <Nightbird> this oil tank was free.. can't get much cheaper than that
[18:50] <Richard> wait till I tell them how many sheets I want
[18:50] <QueenVee> paz: purify what?
[18:50] <Richard> will need to say its to house a "herd"
[18:51] <Nightbird> just tell em you have alot of goats
[18:51] <paz`exe> water. it is very dirty where i live. i live in a sort of 'slums'
[18:51] <Richard> need to constantly think when talking to others
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[18:51] <sleighte> wtf
[18:51] * QueenVee sets mode: +b *!*@du16-19879115.dialupat.pennswoods.net
[18:51] <Richard> mind is plugged into a certain mindset
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[18:51] <Nightbird> Paz, you can get cheap drums for water at a local bottling company
[18:52] <paz`exe> Ahh.
[18:52] <Nightbird> they have a bung hole.. so you will need to by a bung wrench
[18:52] <Nightbird> 55 gallons
[18:52] <paz`exe> 55 per bottle?
[18:52] <paz`exe> or for a few.
[18:52] <Nightbird> per drum
[18:53] <Nightbird> they will be about 10 bucks each give or take a few bucks
[18:53] <Nightbird> Water is very important
[18:53] <Nightbird> I wouldn't scrimp where water is concerned
[18:54] <Richard> brb cup of tea time   :+)
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[18:54] <Muggadah> back again
[18:55] <QueenVee> Paz: where do you plan to relocate to?
[18:55] <paz`exe> hopefully somewhere in upper canada
[18:56] <QueenVee> upper canada?
[18:56] <QueenVee> most of upper canada will be flooded
[18:56] <paz`exe> i meant colorado
[18:56] <paz`exe> im sorry had other things on my mind.
[18:56] <QueenVee> yeah, right
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[18:57] <Nightbird> there is a lot of difference between Canada and Colorado
[18:58] <QueenVee> just a bit
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[18:58] <QueenVee> bye Halow
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[18:59] <phear-pulp> hi!
[18:59] <phear-pulp> =D
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[18:59] <Richard> are these saborteurs?
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[19:00] <Nightbird> probably.. or just nosy people
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[19:00] * oreo was kicked by QueenVee (get a life)
[19:00] <Richard> word must be getting out
[19:00] <Nightbird> Are these all the same people, Queen?
[19:01] <Nightbird> There must be a way to tell .. I just don't know it
[19:01] <Nightbird> I am new to irc
[19:01] <QueenVee> i know
[19:01] <Richard> you in the States NB?
[19:01] <QueenVee> these losers travel in a group
[19:02] <Richard> had one the other day when you weren't here Q
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[19:02] <Nightbird> I understand, Queen... not faulting you.. just trying to learn
[19:02] <phoam> hi
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[19:02] <Richard> said some group had told him to come & poke fun
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[19:02] <phoam> ?
[19:02] * QueenVee sets mode: +b *!*@host-216-77-203-22.btr.bellsouth.net
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[19:02] <QueenVee> oy
[19:02] <QueenVee> woops
[19:02] <Richard> oops
[19:03] <from_Texas> NB will be shocked
[19:03] <QueenVee> hope she comes back
[19:03] <from_Texas> she will
[19:03] <from_Texas> oh poop she quite irc before i could tell her
[19:04] <QueenVee> well, surely she'll realize i made a mistake, since i included a message to phoam, not her
[19:04] <from_Texas> send her an email
[19:05] <QueenVee> yes, i will
[19:06] <zepar> i gota go for a bit take care all
[19:06] <from_Texas> by zepar
[19:06] <Richard> later z
[19:06] <QueenVee> bye zepar
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[19:06] <QueenVee> hello DarkStar
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[19:07] <DarKStaR> hey
[19:07] <Muggadah> im still here
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[19:08] <Richard> Mugga from Australia?
[19:08] <Muggadah> yep
[19:08] <QueenVee> hello Meni: what brings you to this room?
[19:08] <DarKStaR> i read the log nancy write in french for a quebec paper?
[19:08] <meni> discuss the poleshift and the such
[19:08] <QueenVee> mmm, no, she was asked to submit some material, preferably in french
[19:09] <QueenVee> meni: how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[19:09] <Richard> hows things in your area Mugga?
[19:09] <DarKStaR> those she speak french?
[19:09] <Muggadah> very smoky
[19:09] <Richard> Q I spoke with meni the other day
[19:09] <QueenVee> DarkStar: i don't think so
[19:09] <humvee> isnt there a french mirror zt site up?
[19:09] <QueenVee> Muggadah: are you near the fires?
[19:10] <QueenVee> humvee: yes, there is lots of material from ZT translated into french
[19:10] <DarKStaR> ok thx im from quebec and talk french i would have like to buy that:)
[19:10] <QueenVee> nancy probably sent them stuff from there
[19:10] <Muggadah> canberra is about 200 miles away,,
[19:10] <QueenVee> Muggadah: is there any danger of it spreading in your direction?
[19:10] <Richard> that smoke coming from all that distance?
[19:10] <Muggadah> but we are getting the smoke
[19:10] <Richard> wow
[19:10] <Richard> mind you the cloud cover here has some red tinges to it
[19:11] <Richard> and we are over 1000 miles across the tasman sea
[19:11] <QueenVee>  meni: how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[19:11] <Muggadah> the sun was very red this morning,, and still has a red tinge to it
[19:11] <Richard> wonder if Blair still wants to emigrate  
[19:12] <meni> not long
[19:12] <meni> maybe a few months
[19:12] <QueenVee> meni: where do you live? what are you doing to prepare for the poleshift?
[19:12] <Muggadah> i hope bthey haven pick the same place as my group
[19:12] <Richard> :+)
[19:13] <Richard> hopefully they have picked the west side
[19:13] <meni> pennsylvania....just stocking supplies for now
[19:13] <Muggadah> yep
[19:14] <Muggadah> or i might need more arrows
[19:14] <Richard> :)
[19:14] <Richard> he he
[19:15] <QueenVee> pennsylvania isn't a bad place to be
[19:15] <humvee> arrows rule (cross bow) is very quite and ammo (arrows) r reused
[19:15] <meni> just worry about the city folk
[19:16] <Richard> you in the city meni or outskirts
[19:16] <Richard> or rural
[19:17] <meni> fairly rural....in the poconos area....a lot of large cities are near here though
[19:17] <meni> alot
[19:17] <Richard> likely more people in your one area than fill the whole of the country I live (new zealand0
[19:18] <meni> i know...lol
[19:18] <meni> nyc
[19:18] <Richard> how are people finding other people's mind set. Noticing people getting itchy?
[19:18] <Richard> on edge?
[19:19] <QueenVee> Richard: i've found that for a couple of years now
[19:19] <Richard> that's interesting Q
[19:19] <Richard> the difference between populated areas and non pop areas
[19:20] <Richard> people are still being fed good news here
[19:20] <Richard> as regards economy
[19:20] <meni> everybody is acting like there is no tomorrow but they have no idea why
[19:20] <Richard> we may take a slight drop from 4% growth to 2.5%
[19:20] <Richard> that was newspaper headline today
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[19:21] <meni> quiet before the storm
[19:21] <Richard> Lord Of The Rings must be doing well  ;+)
[19:21] <QueenVee> hello Tadija -- what brings you to this room?
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[19:22] <QueenVee> hey WC
[19:22] <West_coast> hi QV
[19:22] <Tadija> this happens this year?
[19:22] <Richard> hi WC
[19:22] <West_coast> hi Richard
[19:22] <meni> according to richard
[19:22] <Tadija> i read about it a while ago, and it was in my dream last night :|
[19:23] <QueenVee> Tadija: please note:
[19:23] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[19:23] <idlework> queenvee
[19:23] <idlework> msg
[19:23] <idlework> now.
[19:23] <Tadija> mannn i was supposed to get my licence in may
[19:23] <Tadija> just tell me, what is gonna happen?
[19:23] <Richard> meni: whadda mean according to me
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[19:24] <QueenVee> buh bye
[19:24] <meni> isn't new zealand a hot spot for observing planet x, richard?
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[19:24] <Richard> most likely but I don't have a telescope
[19:24] <meni> you remember....the 9+11=20 month thing
[19:24] <Richard> don't need one
[19:25] <Richard> yep I remember
[19:25] <Richard> that bug you out a bit
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[19:25] <meni> nah....i like it....very observant
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[19:27] <West_coast> Richard: how far away is Austrlia?
[19:27] <Richard> what's happening their Queen?
[19:27] <Richard> WC its 1000 miles across the Tasman Sea
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[19:28] <West_coast> Richard: Do you have similar weather?
[19:28] <Richard> very different WC
[19:28] <Richard> ours is more like Tasmania
[19:28] <humvee> hi did a quick run down 4 Tadija on p talk
[19:28] <QueenVee> Richard: the bunch who were in here earlier (including phoam) are flooding Ralf's server from my ip address
[19:29] <Richard> today is cloudy with rain expected
[19:29] <Ralf> and from West_coast's
[19:29] <Richard> but humid which makes the grass leap out of the ground
[19:29] <QueenVee> Tex: NOTE: never ever let PHOAM in here again
[19:29] <Richard> good for milking cows
[19:29] <QueenVee> hold on tex
[19:30] <meni> some kinda red elk there in new zealand?
[19:30] <Richard> its what they call a temperite climate WC
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[19:30] <QueenVee> wb nightbird!!!!
[19:30] <Richard> there are deer in the sth island
[19:30] <Nightbird> Hi everyone
[19:30] <QueenVee> NB: did you get my email??
[19:30] <Nightbird> Thank you, Queen
[19:30] <West_coast> hi Nightbird
[19:30] <QueenVee> i'm so embarassed!
[19:30] <Nightbird> yes.. that is why I cam e back
[19:30] <Richard> shoot them from helicopters meni
[19:31] <Nightbird> Hi WEst
[19:31] <tenshu> what's the command to find your own ip?
[19:31] <Richard> good to see you back NB
[19:31] <Nightbird> Mistakes happen, Queen no need to be embarassed
[19:31] <Ralf> West_coast: if you're on a dialup, i strongly suggest you redial right now
[19:31] <Nightbird> thank you, Rich
[19:31] <West_coast> ok
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[19:32] <Nightbird> Rich, I was saying that I live in North Texas..
[19:32] <Richard> NB which part of the country are you in?
[19:32] <humvee> nightbird guess we all hav 2 stay on r toes here - but u cant keep a good chatter down
[19:32] <Richard> snap
[19:32] <Nightbird> LOL.. Hum..
[19:32] <Ralf> from_Texas: looks like you've been compromised as well, hope your cable provider is dhcp
[19:32] <Nightbird> It like I frequently remind my husband. "if I was perfect, I wouldn't need to be here.."
[19:33] <meni> what is this compromised stuff?....how?
[19:33] <meni> who...what?
[19:33] <Ralf> some wannabe h4x0r
[19:33] <Ralf> is spoofing their ip's
[19:33] <Ralf> and using them to food one of the irc servers.
[19:33] <Richard> NB do you read star signs or some such?
[19:33] <Nightbird> I am a Numerologist, Rich
[19:33] <QueenVee> pimply teenagers who can't get a date
[19:33] <Richard> someone said something in here one session
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[19:34] <Richard> as how I had an inkling
[19:34] <Nightbird> whats going on.. somebody hacking?
[19:34] <QueenVee> NB: yep
[19:34] <Nightbird> oh..
[19:34] <Nightbird> they should get a life
[19:34] <QueenVee> NB: the guy who i kicked right after you (and should have kicked instead of you)
[19:34] <Nightbird> Oh, Ok..
[19:35] <humvee> we r watching the numerology night keep moving our departure date up is now 28 feb 2003 sound good? 2,28,2003
[19:35] <Richard> NB: so if someone gives you birth dates can you read?
[19:35] <Nightbird> he was in earthchanges
[19:35] <Nightbird> yes.. Rich.. I use birthdates for the life Lesson Number... what your soul chose to learn and/or overcome during this lifetime
[19:35] <tenshu> there's like a site on that too i saw once
[19:35] <Richard> cool
[19:36] <Richard> I've been doing a lot of thinking about that lately
[19:36] <humvee> I like how NASA does everything by dates
[19:36] <Nightbird> you full name at birth tells what your soul has learned in the past (lifetimes).. how others see you (not necessarily what you truly are) and what your soul came to do or accomplish during this lifetime
[19:36] <humvee> aniversities
[19:37] <Nightbird> Your welcome to get a reading if you like.. I'd rather not tie up Queen's room with it.. and will do it through e-mail for you
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[19:37] <Richard> I've never been any good with money in fact its kicked me a few times in life so wonder iof in the past I was an ar++h+++
[19:37] <QueenVee> NB: go right ahead if everyone is agreeable, i've got to go for a minute
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[19:38] <West_coast> hello again
[19:38] <Richard> hi WC
[19:38] <humvee> wb
[19:38] <Nightbird> LOL.. well, I wouldn't say that.. jesus said that it is easier for a rope to go through the eye of a needle that a rich man to enter heaven...LOL
[19:38] <meni> i finally realized what my cheap generation 1 lcd night vision goggle were picking up richard....orbs....
[19:39] <humvee> I think we r in the kingdom rite here n all the other fools r looking 4 the eye
[19:39] <Richard> orbs ...from where?
[19:39] <meni> the things are orbs....don't know what to make of them....seem harmless enough
[19:39] <meni> i dunno
[19:40] <meni> there's alot of sites online about them....they show up on digital cameras
[19:40] <tenshu> orbs are just like faeries and what not. they are gentle
[19:40] <Richard> crazy
[19:40] <meni> some claim they are multidimensional beings, but nobody knows for sure
[19:41] <Richard> NB can I give you some info?
[19:41] <meni> all i know is they zip around in my living room
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[19:41] <Nightbird> Yes, sorry Richard... Hubby decided to discuss ATV riding with me .. ways to improve
[19:41] <tenshu> they're playful
[19:42] <Ralf> ok
[19:42] <Ralf> here's the deal
[19:42] <humvee> wow meni - anyway 2 grt them on film or dig camera?
[19:42] <Ralf> the web server is down.
[19:42] <Richard> 3 or 4 wheeler?
[19:42] <Nightbird> 4 wheeler... 3's are too dangerous.. I bust my butt for sure on one of those...LOL
[19:42] <West_coast> Ralf: what happened?
[19:42] <meni> i was going to use my mavica digital camera tonight, but i need to charge the battery
[19:43] <Richard> i think 3 wheelers are banned now
[19:43] <meni> going to take some shots and see what i get
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[19:43] <humvee> let us know very interested
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[19:45] <meni> i can tell you this...they know i'm watching....i flip the goggles on and they are zipping all around and then after the infrared light shines a bit they start thinning out....go right through the walls and floors
[19:45] <QueenVee> hello insomniac
[19:45] <meni> they don't seem to like infrared
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[19:46] <InSoMniaC420> Hey.. I read the logs from yesterday, they were better than what I expected.. do any of you have any comments about yesterday?
[19:46] * QueenVee sets mode: +o West_coast
[19:46] <tied2> hello ya all
[19:47] <QueenVee> hiya tied
[19:47] <humvee> hi tired
[19:47] * QueenVee sets mode: +o humvee
[19:47] <humvee> thanks
[19:47] * QueenVee sets mode: +o walt
[19:47] <InSoMniaC420> ooo oo what bout me :)
[19:48] <QueenVee> there: that should give you enough ops
[19:48] <QueenVee> i'll stop there  :-)
[19:48] <humvee> if they come back 1 o us will wakem
[19:48] <QueenVee> well, you don't have to wake em, just whack em
[19:49] <QueenVee> hehe
[19:49] <West_coast> :)
[19:49] <humvee> yea
[19:49] <QueenVee> Insomniac: what in particular did you want comments about?
[19:49] <QueenVee> what aspect of the sessions?
[19:50] <InSoMniaC420> Hummmmm......... I forgot what they were about now :(
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[19:50] <InSoMniaC420> lemme check then ill be able to answer
[19:51] <West_coast> animals and pets, for one
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[19:51] <QueenVee> hello creaton
[19:51] <InSoMniaC420> yeah, the horses.. That was pretty clear cut though
[19:51] <creaton> hey
[19:51] <InSoMniaC420> *Sighs* can't reach Queens site
[19:52] <QueenVee> ah, because ralf's server is down....
[19:52] <QueenVee> but the logs are up on the zetatalk site!
[19:52] <West_coast> QV: could that have anything to do with endless GIF file?
[19:53] <InSoMniaC420> Yeah, but your site is soo much more convienent.. this will take a sec to find them
[19:53] <QueenVee> WC: nope, it has everthing to do with those assholes who were in here earlier, who have flooded ralf's server
[19:54] <QueenVee> Insomniac: here's the ZT page with the logs: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zetalogs.htm
[19:54] <InSoMniaC420> Thanks QV
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[19:55] <QueenVee> okay, i gotta walk the hound now
[19:55] <QueenVee> be back here later
[19:55] <from_Texas> bye
[19:55] <West_coast> C U
[19:55] <QueenVee> ops: get your fingers on the kick/ban button
[19:55] <QueenVee> :-)
[19:55] <meni> did anybody ask nancy about how the magnetic field will be affected when the iron core carrying a charge stops rotating?
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[19:57] <humvee> no but as per zt field doesnt stop bec pole turns jus changes angel of direction
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[19:58] <West_coast> north will still be north relative to the sun, I think
[19:59] <humvee> yes i like the americas being in the north hemi
[19:59] <West_coast> at least when things settle down
[20:00] <humvee> we can do balooning then n not need those mid east dumbells to grant flyover permission!
[20:00] <tied2> it will be east america and west america lol
[20:00] <West_coast> :)
[20:01] <humvee> i think as per progressed ppl report as islands of America
[20:01] <InSoMniaC420> lol I've been curious about something.. I wonder what types of conversations nancy and the zetas have and if they talk to each other constantly
[20:02] <humvee> like that feels good zetas
[20:02] <humvee> telepathy is thought feel smell sight all that
[20:02] <West_coast> InSoMniaC: zetas don't talk
[20:02] <InSoMniaC420> lol
[20:02] <InSoMniaC420> sorry
[20:02] <InSoMniaC420> communication
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[20:03] <humvee> no they r more touchy feely
[20:03] <InSoMniaC420> it would be interesting
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[20:03] <humvee> Merry is Gay
[20:03] <InSoMniaC420> I don't get how she translates extremely complicated concepts that she might not know much about and do it to the point
[20:04] <InSoMniaC420> has to be pretty hard
[20:04] <humvee> she was picked i think 4 her communicational talents which appear to b great
[20:04] <West_coast> she has a gift
[20:05] <humvee> and many zeta friends lo
[20:06] <humvee> some one posted (Elmo what a jerk) Nancy's spec here then left too fast 2 kick off
[20:06] <meni> maybe the orbs are the zetas
[20:06] <meni> maybe they enter her cranium and leave messages
[20:06] <InSoMniaC420> yeah.. I tried to imagine what types of relationships she could have with them.. does she have a formal setting with them or are they like family
[20:06] <humvee> but it shows that she is real and ben there a while as her street is named after her family
[20:07] <humvee> I think as ppl explain who r telepaths it is like tele ppl r ur family
[20:07] <InSoMniaC420> they would have to be
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