Session Start: Sat Jan 25 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <karmie> scooby - are you still here?
[00:00] <scooby-atwork> yeah
[00:00] <scooby-atwork> sorta
[00:00] <scooby-atwork> heading out soon
[00:00] <scooby-atwork> wassup?
[00:01] <scooby-atwork> having connection probs?
[00:02] <karmie> I wanted to give you a site - an interview with ruth montgomery - not too long before she died.
[00:02] <scooby-atwork> i may have seen it
[00:02] <scooby-atwork> but go ahead anyway...
[00:02] <scooby-atwork> : )
[00:02] <karmie> here it is:  http://www.tanika.com/ruth.htm
[00:03] <scooby-atwork> yeah, saw that one... thanks!
[00:03] <scooby-atwork> nite karmie!
[00:03] <karmie> ok
[00:03] <scooby-atwork> see ya l8r
[00:03] <karmie> nite scooby
[00:04] <karmie> :)
[00:04] <humvee> got 2 go back in am 4 the zetatalk chat
[00:04] <humvee> bye
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[00:05] <scooby-atwork> nite
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[00:09] <islander> all quiet again
[00:10] <karmie> yep
[00:11] <karmie> guess I had better go to bed now - falling asleep at the keyboard and need to be refreshed for zeta chat!
[00:11] <karmie> goodnite guys!
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[00:12] <islander> night all
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[00:55] <Luke> Hello
[00:55] <Luke> I am a star child that is here to help.
[00:57] <Luke> Anyone here?
[00:57] <Luke> The impending pole shift is approching
[00:57] <Luke> All hell is going to break lose very soon from now.
[00:58] <vn> really
[00:58] <Luke> The 'threshold event' is nearlly upon us.
[00:58] <Luke> HI vn
[00:58] <vn> hi
[00:58] <Luke> yes...  indeed...  
[00:58] <Luke> it is coming
[00:58] <Luke> i can feel it
[00:58] <vn> I feel like i'm hungry
[00:59] <Luke> lol...  Do you believe that a pole shift will happen?
[00:59] <vn> i'm ready
[00:59] <vn> that's all
[00:59] <Luke> Do you believe that the arabs will avenge what is going to happen in Iraq?
[00:59] <Luke> so am I.
[01:00] <vn> yes
[01:00] <vn> of course they will
[01:00] <Luke> agreed
[01:00] <Luke> will Russia release small pox?
[01:00] <vn> they can go for bombings like in oklahoma and earlier at wtc
[01:00] <vn> dont think so
[01:01] <vn> nature and the wars are going to start taking over the world approx same times
[01:01] <Luke> I look forward to the changes that are upon us.
[01:02] <Luke> agreed
[01:02] <Luke> have you seen this site?  www.operationterra.com
[01:02] <vn> no
[01:03] <vn> i'll take a look
[01:03] <Luke> http://xgate.abovetopsecret.com/news.php?id=140
[01:04] <Luke> That link is from an Al Queda spokes person
[01:06] <Luke> heres another one thats even better
[01:07] <Luke> www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/November2002/15apocalypse.htm
[01:08] <Luke> Still there vn?
[01:08] <vn> yea
[01:08] <Luke> or are you looking at the Opterra site?
[01:08] <vn> earthchangetv Ive heard sometimes
[01:08] <Luke> cool
[01:08] <vn> abovetopsecret..
[01:09] <Luke> that article says Al Queda wil use nukes that are already in the US
[01:09] <Luke> the earthchanges one
[01:09] <vn> interesting
[01:09] <Luke> Where do you live?
[01:09] <Luke> I live in Calgary Canada
[01:10] <vn> finland
[01:10] <Luke> wow
[01:10] <vn> heh
[01:10] <Luke> heh
[01:10] <vn> we never been in middle of war
[01:10] <Luke> heres my site www.freewebs.com/specter
[01:10] <Luke> cool
[01:11] <vn> guess it's safer place than canada
[01:11] <Luke> yea
[01:11] <Luke> but the ocean is a concern
[01:11] <Luke> finland will go under i've heard
[01:11] <vn> yeu
[01:11] <vn> i'm moving to portugal though
[01:11] <vn> I guess
[01:11] <Luke> I'm not sure though
[01:11] <vn> in one week
[01:11] <vn> to surf
[01:11] <Luke> awesome
[01:12] <vn> may be there when all the stuff happens / or nothing happens
[01:12] <Luke> I guess your safe then....   hee hee
[01:12] <vn> wow u take mushrooms :p
[01:12] <Luke> yeah....  I grow them
[01:12] <vn> cool
[01:12] <Luke> huh huh
[01:13] <vn> what shrooms they are exactly
[01:13] <vn> u know?
[01:13] <Luke> amazonian, mazatec, and hawaian.
[01:13] <Luke> 3 kinds
[01:13] <vn> nice
[01:13] <vn> well I just smoke weed
[01:13] <Luke> A friend i met on the internet mailed the spores to me.
[01:13] <Luke> kewl
[01:14] <Luke> I smoke weed sometimes too
[01:14] <Luke> but not as much as i use to
[01:14] <Luke> its been months since I had any
[01:14] <vn> yeau
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[01:15] <Luke> Its going to be neat when the big stuff starts to happen
[01:15] <vn> hehe
[01:15] <Luke> I've been waiting a long time
[01:15] <Luke> How old are you vn/
[01:15] <Luke> I'm 21
[01:15] <Luke> ?
[01:15] <vn> 20 i am
[01:15] <Luke> cool
[01:16] <Luke> male/
[01:16] <Luke> ?
[01:16] <Luke> I am male
[01:16] <vn> shiat I gotta read your page
[01:16] <obany> male i am 31 i am Dutch i am
[01:16] <vn> male
[01:16] <Luke> cool
[01:17] <Luke> Hi obany
[01:17] <Luke> I'm half german
[01:17] <vn> roger
[01:17] <vn> so are you planning to leave this planet
[01:17] <Luke> yes
[01:17] <vn> I didn't read your page yet..
[01:17] <Luke> lol
[01:17] <vn> how you do it ?
[01:17] <Luke> I am ascending at this time
[01:17] <vn> I wanna get abducted
[01:17] <Luke> or so it would seen
[01:18] <Luke> seem
[01:18] <vn> how r u ascending
[01:18] <vn> maybe if px comes it is easy to jump to 4 or 5d
[01:18] <Luke> my 'friends' are increasing the vibratory rate of my atomic stucture
[01:18] <obany> stop bullshitting in this channel
[01:19] <vn> hmm?
[01:19] <Luke> I'll tone down the far out stuff if you wish
[01:19] <obany> Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.
[01:19] <vn> oops
[01:19] <vn> I didn't see we are in this channel
[01:19] <vn> sorry
[01:19] <vn> I thought this was troubled_times lol
[01:20] <Luke> Are you the moderator obany?
[01:20] <vn> luke join #troubled_times
[01:20] <Luke> okay.
[01:20] <Luke> thanks vn
[01:20] <vn> yw
[01:20] <vn> double clik that
[01:20] <vn> obany why are you only in this chan ?
[01:20] <Luke> nothing happens
[01:21] <obany> vn: i just joined in that'
[01:21] <vn> o you are using java irc
[01:21] <obany> 's why i think
[01:21] <vn> then try luke /join #troubled_times
[01:21] <Luke> ok
[01:21] <obany> moment
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[01:38] <Synthetik> hey term
[01:39] <Terminal> hey
[01:39] <obany> hi
[01:39] <Synthetik> hi obany
[01:41] <SnookPoon> Hey guy's.....Are you guys getting hit with this big Denial Of Service Attack on the net?
[01:41] <obany> i had problems getting on the Internet earlier on ??
[01:41] <SnookPoon> Many web sites are down
[01:41] <Terminal> no, dont think so
[01:41] <obany> Netherlands here
[01:42] <SnookPoon> OK
[01:42] <SnookPoon> The USA is getting hit hard
[01:42] <SnookPoon> I'm suprised this IRC chat is working so good
[01:43] <SnookPoon> It should not affect your connecting with a modem but just your surfing web sites that don't respond
[01:44] <obany> some European servers ..
[01:44] <obany> and this is small network , and well protected for what i know
[01:45] <obany> okay back little later
[01:46] <SnookPoon> I would have guessed that just certain major internet routers at key locations would be affected
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[04:53] <obany> hi
[04:53] <vn> hi
[04:53] <Terminal> hey
[04:54] <Terminal> how many hours to the next session?
[04:54] <obany> what do you think
[04:54] <obany> 1?
[04:54] <obany> 2?
[04:55] <obany> i can tell you more then 8 hours
[04:55] <vn> hmm i'm not sure...9hours ?
[04:55] <obany> 8 hours and 33 minuts for the session in #poleshiftdiscussion
[04:55] <Terminal> good, so I can get some sleep
[04:55] <Terminal> ok thanks
[04:55] <vn> I could do the same thing
[04:56] <obany> and more then 9 hours for  the session in #zetatalk
[04:56] <Terminal> night people
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[04:59] * obany is going to eat now...
[04:59] <obany> Jurian: guess what fish (lekkerbekjes en daarna wat macroni)
[04:59] <obany> cu
[05:01] <Jurian> ew :p
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[06:07] <obany> hi
[06:07] <from_Texas> hi obany
[06:09] <from_Texas> obany what is the site for awakening news
[06:11] <from_Texas> I have lost a bunch of bookmarks... it was an every morning visit
[06:13] <obany> www.troubled-times.com/awakening
[06:13] <obany> and of course www.shift2003.com has info too
[06:13] <obany> okay laters
[06:13] * obany laters
[06:13] <from_Texas> thanks
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[06:18] <tex-away> !down
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[06:47] <MattJB> hey
[06:48] <MattJB> anyone alive?
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[07:10] <tex-away> !down
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[07:38] <obaway> hi
[07:40] <creaton> jo obaway
[07:41] <creaton> hi
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[07:55] <Valdrix> elllo
[07:56] <Valdrix> hhhheeelllllloooooooooowwwwwww
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[08:10] <haccess> Scientists at the University of Washington are doing the most precise gravity measurements in the world -- putting an innovative twist on an old experimental technique, and looking for evidence that reality has far more than three or four dimensions.
[08:10] <haccess> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/105633_gravity24.shtml
[08:10] <haccess> cheers  :O
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[08:22] <obaway> hi Queeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
[08:23] <obaway> QueenVee: if you want sapphire to join then don't remove the lvcm ban :)
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[08:31] <obany> hi NOL
[08:31] <Nol> http://members.lycos.nl/webhtml/eye.html for the intrested
[08:31] <Nol> hi  
[08:31] <obany> i have been there seen that ..
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[08:32] <obany> no need to promote it over and over again
[08:32] <obany> woops nol
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[08:32] <Ogmios> hi
[08:32] <QueenVee> hello hello
[08:32] <Ogmios> i was in sauna
[08:34] <QueenVee> nice
[08:36] <Ogmios> wasnt so hot..maybe only 70C in sauna
[08:36] <obany> that's COLD :P
[08:37] <QueenVee> what is the ideal heat for the sauna?
[08:37] <QueenVee> temperature, i mean
[08:38] <tied2> who is this NOL guy and why do you guys dislike him?
[08:39] <QueenVee> he's crazy cookoo
[08:39] <obany> QueenVee: dont't forget to send in the info for todays session queenvee
[08:39] <QueenVee> ok obany
[08:42] <obany> :)
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[08:50] <Ogmios> hmmm some ppl like 80C
[08:51] <Ogmios> hardcore ppl 100C :)
[08:52] <obany> hot
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[08:55] <QueenVee> hello Dufus - what brings you to this room?
[08:56] <QueenVee> okay, well, how about this:
[08:56] <QueenVee> what takes you out of this room?
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[08:57] <QueenVee> hi humvee
[08:58] <humvee> GOOD DAY  QueenVee
[09:01] <obany> QueenVee: i noticed you send the same posting twice to tt-forum not that it matters
[09:02] <obany> okay since last week we had a little problems with asking question, maybe some reading of ZT could help to come with up with questions this time
[09:03] <obany> perhaps there are some sections or answers that need an update
[09:04] <humvee> I m rereading crop failure section to c if I can ask 4 update
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[09:08] <fetus> hello!
[09:08] <obany> the same with the other info .. transformation, hybrids, pole shift,  if and when related to the aftertime
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[09:08] <obany> and it's all intertwingled for what i see so
[09:08] <karmie> good morning queen and everyone
[09:09] <QueenVee> hello hello
[09:09] <obany> brb
[09:09] <QueenVee> long time no see, fetus
[09:10] <fetus> been quite busy with work..
[09:15] <QueenVee> very cool, fetus; what was that created for?
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[09:20] <QueenVee> hello msian -- what brings you to this room?
[09:21] <msian> checking the latest on px
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[09:23] <msian> looking also for like minded people preparing in malaysia
[09:28] <fetus> queenvee...something that will probably never see the light of day if px comes roling by.. :(
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[09:30] <msian> i may not be in msia during 'that' time
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[09:32] <QueenVee> msian: malaysia will not be a good place to be
[09:32] <QueenVee> the only way to prepare in malaysia is to move
[09:35] <msian> thanks for advice. i already am aware of that info.
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[09:35] <QueenVee> hiya red
[09:35] <obany> the same for tne Netherlands, and other countries
[09:35] <obany> just not safe
[09:35] <Red> Hi QV
[09:35] <QueenVee> how cold is it in Alberta today?
[09:36] <Red> Habven't looked but I'd guess -25 or so... snowing so not apt to be much colder than that
[09:36] <Red> brb  I'll see :)
[09:36] <QueenVee> brrrrr
[09:36] <msian> have to leave. bye all
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[09:37] <Red> he   I was wrong... its a balmy -20!
[09:38] <Red> What's the weather there like QV?
[09:38] <QueenVee> it's about -18C
[09:39] <QueenVee> hi Bailey
[09:39] <humvee> QV: wen I reread sections most q r already answered
[09:39] <QueenVee> can't wait for it to warm up. this new dog of mine has me out for hours in the woods, tracking rabbits....
[09:39] <QueenVee> humvee: yeah, i know...
[09:40] <obany> humvee: so what about the transformation section, hybrid section ... aftertime section .. is there absolutly nothing you can come up with ?
[09:40] <humvee> look what great exercise ur getting walking in the woods - lol
[09:40] <humvee> looking
[09:40] <Red> lol  nothing like a new pup
[09:40] <QueenVee> seriously, i am; i was telling my mother this morning that i seemed to have lost some weight
[09:42] <QueenVee> Red: yeah, but i'm really having difficulty getting him to obey when he's on the trail. i'm going to be getting him one of those electronic training collars that hunters use; apparently it's very hard to get a hound to obey when he's on a scent....
[09:42] <Bailey> Queen, in light of recient events, I have a question, let me know what you think, Tom Bearden has presented evidance the gov has had implant tech  dateing back over 40 years, is there any chance the PTB  could be messing with nancys implant and signals?
[09:42] <QueenVee> i suppose anything is possible
[09:43] <Red> is there any info on later aftertimes... I reckon we can scavenge for for a while but here with climate change, I wonder if much of what we are used to will grow.  Then what?
[09:43] <QueenVee> lots of info on that, Red. ya gotta go with low-light crops.
[09:44] <obany> well queen i think that Red also means wen things will start to clear up?
[09:45] <QueenVee> ZT answered that a few sessions ago.... hold on, i'll find it....
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[09:46] <Red> Hey islander
[09:47] <islander> hi all, red
[09:47] <karmie> islander - hi
[09:47] <islander> is the chat stable today, everybody staying in?
[09:48] <QueenVee> well, i can't seem to locate it right now, but basically it said that due to climate changes some things would not grow where they used to, and somethings would grow where they didn't before... i mean, commonsense really....
[09:48] <QueenVee> hi islander
[09:48] <islander> hi queen
[09:48] <Red> exactly QV
[09:48] <QueenVee> islander: well, i sure aint going out again until i have to
[09:49] <islander> Queen, I was referring to the two hours of net split last night...
[09:49] <islander> :)
[09:49] <QueenVee> oh i see. hehe
[09:49] <islander> they kept comin and goin
[09:50] <Red> wow that's nasty...
[09:50] <islander> only karmie, vn, hum and myself seemed stable
[09:50] <islander> suppose there's some meaning to that?
[09:50] <islander> lol
[09:50] <obany> islander: i think it's better now, there has been a major problem with the net today
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[09:51] <islander> I know, some bamks not accessible, shutting down servers?
[09:51] <islander> banks
[09:51] <karmie> I have a question:  Does Nancy have other people/associates that she knows that also get messages from the zetas?  Is there any other source that she knows of that is credible for information for us re: the poleshift and after times?
[09:52] <obany> a virus that infected ms sql servers, who then did send lots of packets ... trough the net   
[09:52] <obany> karmie: has been adressed before
[09:53] <islander> obany: that would explain the lists dropping out when they got busy
[09:53] <karmie> obany - I don't remember reading - could you please tell me what she said about it - condensed version, of course.  thanks
[09:53] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a132.htm
[09:54] <obany> islander : http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/01/25/internet.attack.ap/index.html
[09:55] <islander> obany: thanks
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[09:57] <QueenVee> karmie: re other sources....
[09:57] <QueenVee> ZT has said that Edgar Cayce and Ruth Montgomery were good sources
[09:58] <karmie> thanks obany
[09:59] <karmie> queen - I wonder if she thinks/hopes that in the future she will get a little help giving out the news?
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[10:00] <QueenVee> Karmie: ZT says that there are many alien groups here on earth, in contact with humans, doing their bit....
[10:00] <QueenVee> hello mamakatt: what brings you to this room?
[10:00] <mamakatt> hi there
[10:01] <mamakatt> like to join in on the info if i may
[10:02] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift, mamakatt?
[10:02] <mamakatt> been following the postings and info for over a year
[10:03] <Bailey> Queen, i do a lot of research and exchange on paltalk, there is a lot of professional manipulation and deception going on there, how do you trace iSP #?
[10:03] <QueenVee> so this is the first time you've attended a live ZetaTalk session?
[10:03] <mamakatt> yes it is Queen
[10:04] <QueenVee> Bailey: mmm, you'll have to ask Obany, Jurian, or Juditness that....
[10:04] <QueenVee> mamakatt: well, nancy's session does not start for another 2-1/2 hours. between now and then i will be considering questions for the agenda....
[10:05] <mamakatt> ok very good QueenVee
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[10:06] <QueenVee> hello pig
[10:06] <piginthecity> hi QV
[10:07] <Bailey> I will see you all a little later, bye
[10:07] <piginthecity> whew...the net got whacked hard this morning by that virus...
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[10:07] <QueenVee> mama: please note, for future reference: on Saturdays this room is open to anyone to attend nancy's zetatalk session, but on all other days is restricted as follows:
[10:07] <QueenVee> Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.
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[10:08] <QueenVee> so saturdays is mostly people hanging about waiting for the session to start, and talking about possible quetsions for the agenda
[10:08] <miguel> hello
[10:08] <QueenVee> hello miguel
[10:08] <miguel> hello queen
[10:08] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 2.5 hours. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
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[10:09] <QueenVee> i don't mean to belittle anyone, but it's quite amusing how some people are trying to blame almost everything on PlanetX these days....
[10:10] <piginthecity> indeed!
[10:10] <QueenVee> on one of the listserves, someone is saying that she's been noticing that her house has been a lot more dusty lately, and wonders if it's related....
[10:10] <piginthecity> LOL
[10:10] <QueenVee> i mean, really....
[10:10] <piginthecity> i'm disorganized...I blame Planet X
[10:10] <piginthecity> hehe
[10:11] <QueenVee> someone asked me yesterday if we could ask the zetas if PlanetX was responsible for a recent rash of murders....
[10:12] <piginthecity> I would like to know how Planet X (if at all) is related to this cold weather in the US...12 inches of snow in parts of north carolina, and snow at myrtle beach...almost unheard of
[10:13] <QueenVee> okay, YES, that IS related
[10:13] <piginthecity> can you ask them *how* it's related?
[10:13] <obany> increased ilnesses, wierd weather. Earthquakes yes that's related ...
[10:14] <obany> piginthecity: has been adressed
[10:14] <Red> which server was having troubles last night/ this morning?
[10:14] <piginthecity> ok, i'll check the ZT pages for that
[10:14] <humvee> The Zetas are a species that are operating in the 4th dimension and therefore deem it to be The normal state of things. As humans are very curious we are wondering what the physical characteristics will seem like and how it will feel to move into the 4th dimension.
[10:14] <QueenVee> obany: do you have a link for pig, explaining WHY PlanetX is affecting the eather?
[10:14] <QueenVee> weatherrr
[10:15] <QueenVee> humvee: have you read the DENSITY section?
[10:15] <humvee> yes just did but doesnt talk of the experienced realization
[10:15] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p24.htm
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[10:15] <LeXar> Hello all
[10:16] <QueenVee> hi lex
[10:16] <piginthecity> thank you obany
[10:16] <obany> moment humvee
[10:16] <LeXar> how goes the drill QV?
[10:16] <QueenVee> humvee: can you be more specific about what you want to know?
[10:16] <QueenVee> it goes
[10:16] <humvee> ok
[10:17] <piginthecity> if i read that correctly, it talks about global warming...this is quite the opposite. i don't think that addresses the cold very well.
[10:17] <piginthecity> i'll look around for more weather related stuff on ZT
[10:18] <QueenVee> Re the server problems last night/this morning, here's the explanation for it: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030125/ap_wo_en_po/na_gen_internet_attack_2
[10:18] <Red> thanks QV
[10:18] <obany> humvee: did you read this yet http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d14.htm ?
[10:19] <humvee> rereading
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[10:22] <QueenVee> hello jammer: what brings you to this room?
[10:23] <jammerjp33> trying to be on time for once
[10:23] <QueenVee> you're here for the zetatalk session?
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[10:24] <jammerjp33> ploeshift is first yes?
[10:24] <obany> yes, first this session then the other one
[10:24] <jammerjp33> zt in  a different room
[10:24] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 2 hours. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
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[10:28] <jammerjp33> QueenVee, I was wondering if safe locations could be elaborated as this is currently quite vauge
[10:29] <QueenVee> jammer: do you hve a specific question about a specific location?
[10:29] <jammerjp33> no just wanted more precise location of safety in USA
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[10:30] <QueenVee> jammer: your question is currently quite vague
[10:30] <jammerjp33> lol
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[10:30] <Red> #zetatlak
[10:30] <Red> ooops  hehe
[10:31] <QueenVee> you will only get as precise an answer as the question you pose
[10:31] <jammerjp33> my point being that locations are not really specified
[10:31] <QueenVee> yes they are
[10:31] <jammerjp33> ok CT
[10:31] <piginthecity> i think the point of that doc, jammer, is to pull up where you live and determine if you need to relocate
[10:32] <QueenVee> i think jammer wants a quick list of safe locations
[10:32] <QueenVee> that's not a question for the zetas
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[10:32] <QueenVee> that's just an editing job
[10:33] <jammerjp33> no its not for the Z's
[10:33] <QueenVee> someone needs to go through the document and come up with a list of what ZT describes as the safest locations
[10:33] <jammerjp33> yes
[10:33] <QueenVee> jammer: would you like to volunteer for that job?
[10:33] <jammerjp33> if i had the info i might
[10:33] <piginthecity> the info's all there
[10:33] <jammerjp33> really
[10:33] <QueenVee> it's all here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[10:34] <QueenVee> just requires someone to go through it and pick out the safest locations
[10:34] <islander> maybe someone wants to make a map based on the info?
[10:35] <QueenVee> yeah, i once started on such a map, but then my time got taken up with the shift2003 website....
[10:35] <islander> we all have our roles to play...
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[10:36] <QueenVee> lol
[10:36] <QueenVee> be careful what you ask for
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[10:37] <QueenVee> hi tied
[10:37] <tied1> hello
[10:37] <QueenVee> are you the evil twin of tied2?
[10:37] <tied1> no I'm the good twin
[10:37] <tied1> lol
[10:37] <QueenVee> ah.... well that explains a lot
[10:37] <tied1> I knew it would
[10:38] <QueenVee> hehe
[10:39] <tied1> brb
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[10:40] <QueenVee> ah, you mus be the integrated personality
[10:41] <LeXar> heh
[10:41] <tied> NO I"M the good one .... he he
[10:41] <LeXar> more like the referee
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[10:42] <obany> it's question askingtime ... "two hour queestion period" so hey maybe my advice yould provide you guys with some question... do some reading in zetatalk
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[10:43] <QueenVee> hello strikes. Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 2.5 hours. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
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[10:43] <LeXar> obany, thing is, I not very ertain if my questions are worth asking, besides I think I have my agenda already in place
[10:43] <QueenVee> obany: why don't you suggest some specific sections....
[10:43] <islander> bye all ...until later
[10:43] <obany> pole shift after time transformation
[10:43] <QueenVee> LeXar: well, no harm in at least throwing them out. we won't bite you too hard.
[10:44] <QueenVee> later islander
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[10:44] <humvee> For th Zetas living the 4th dimension must seem like the normal state.  As humans we are very curious and are wondering how abrupt the move into the 4th dimension will be, how we will experience it and what it feels like in that less dense existance.
[10:44] <QueenVee> hello mike: Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 2.5 hours. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[10:44] <LeXar> the only thing that really worries me is if one of our group becomes delirous after the shift
[10:44] <mike> ty
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[10:45] <QueenVee> humvee: ZT has already provided some info on that (e.g. our bodies will feel lighter, we will be telepathic, will be able to look into the sun without harm); so you need to be more specific in terms of what you want to know that they HAVEN'T told us....
[10:45] <QueenVee> delirious?
[10:45] <piginthecity> i'm kidding of course..well sorta, cause i would to know, actually -- but i wonder who the zetas are taking for the super bowl  ;-)
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[10:45] <QueenVee> humvee: otherwise, nancy will just refer you to what has already be said
[10:46] <QueenVee> humvee: i'm trying to help you get a specific answer
[10:46] <QueenVee> hello cosmic. Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 2.5 hours. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[10:46] <humvee> basically what their experience of it was
[10:46] <obany> if you ask a qeustion, try to be specific
[10:46] <LeXar> well, no one can be fully prepared for the shift, right? So, in that manner, some people can become very very after the shift, that is not being able to (or simply not wishing to) survive in the after world.
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[10:47] <obany> adress the issue with some good words
[10:47] <QueenVee> hello Douch. Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 2.5 hours. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[10:47] <LeXar> I would grieve so badly If I'd had to slay of one of my friends after the PS
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[10:47] <piginthecity> err...slay one of your friends?
[10:47] <LeXar> wrong choice of words
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[10:48] <QueenVee> humvee: this section provides a lot of info on what it is like to be a zeta: http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w00.htm
[10:48] <LeXar> anyways, you know to what I getting too
[10:48] <Cur1ous> hello everyone!
[10:48] <humvee> ok reading
[10:48] <QueenVee> hello Boy and Curious. Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 2.5 hours. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[10:48] <Cur1ous> great!
[10:48] <Cur1ous> thanks queenvee
[10:48] <piginthecity> 1.5 hours, right, not 2.5?
[10:48] <BoY> o/k
[10:49] <mamakatt> not much hope for elderly and those relying on medications that i can see
[10:49] <QueenVee> pig: oy! correct!
[10:49] <piginthecity> ok, just checkin :-)
[10:50] <QueenVee> CORRECTION: Nancy's zetatalk session will begin in about 1-1/2 hrs
[10:50] <BoY> o/k
[10:50] <humvee> mamakatt there is lots of hope but requires u to research medicinal plants stocking up on things needed and preparing in earnest
[10:50] <piginthecity> QV: approximately how long does this last -- and how long is the talk over on #zetatalk last after this?
[10:51] <QueenVee> each session is one hour long
[10:51] <piginthecity> ok thanks
[10:51] <QueenVee> and there's about half an hour between sessions
[10:52] <piginthecity> i'll be back for the chat, see you everyone
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[10:53] <QueenVee> humvee: here's another link you should read: http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d21.htm
[10:53] <tied> queen op me pleae
[10:54] <obany> some section to read trough transformation, aftertime and pole shift ...
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[10:55] <QueenVee> Hello Boja. Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1-1/2 hours. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[10:55] <humvee> ok ty
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[10:59] <QueenVee> well, i have a question i would like to pose to the zetas:
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[11:00] <QueenVee> i was just re-reading this section on CROWEDED INCARNATIONS: http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d44.htm
[11:00] <strikes> yes
[11:00] <strikes> the crowded incarnations
[11:00] <QueenVee> Michael: please come back for the session itself; the question period is closed to you
[11:00] <strikes> actually a good explanation for the raw abundance of ignorant people
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[11:01] <QueenVee> uh... there's nothing there that suggests that "ignorance" is a byproduct of a crowded incarantion
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[11:01] <obany> and advice if you can't come up with questions, try to listen to your intution, or do some reading of zetatalk, maybe you can come up with some questions by that
[11:01] <QueenVee> haccess: come back for the session. question period is closed to you.
[11:01] <mike> I have a question... during and after the shift all will be chaos and every survivor will be strugling for staying alive, how long before everything be steady, balanced, harmonic and under what sort of environment will we be living? that is, what kind of transportation and housing will be available, if we will have any support from aliens or do we have to figure it out by ourselves?
[11:01] <haccess> k
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[11:02] <QueenVee> anyways, my question about that section is whether such crowded incarnations are responsible for what we perceive as schizophrenia and "possession"....
[11:02] <QueenVee> mike: okay, one question at a time:
[11:03] <obany> QueenVee: has been adressed
[11:03] <obany> about schizo and possesions
[11:03] <QueenVee> mike: if you read the AFTERTIME section, you will find all of those questions answered there
[11:03] <QueenVee> obany: oh, and what was the answer?
[11:03] <mike> ok
[11:04] <QueenVee> mike: after you've read the section, if you still have a question that isn't addressed....
[11:05] <strikes> queenvee, ignorance is more like the end result of too many bodies to incarniate
[11:05] <obany> QueenVee: i am searching for it moment
[11:06] <QueenVee> strikes: the word "ignorance" means "uneducated" -- it is not an inherent quality
[11:06] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b45.htm and http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b26.htm
[11:07] <strikes> queenvee, true
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[11:09] <Zetapal> Hi guys
[11:09] <QueenVee> obany: thanks. but the question still remains: do we sometimes MISTAKE an overcrowded incarnation as a schizophrenic condition or a case of possession....
[11:09] <QueenVee> he zp
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[11:09] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour, 15 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:10] <obany> and advice if you can't come up with questions, try to listen to your intution, or do some reading of zetatalk, maybe you can come up with some questions by that
[11:10] <Zetapal> You have perhaps been talking about this already, but remember all those net splits we were getting last night? it was an internet-wide virus attack:
[11:10] <Zetapal> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earthchanges_discussion_prep_planetx/message/3597
[11:10] <QueenVee> yeah, we saw that article zp
[11:10] <Zetapal> well, you welcome anyway
[11:11] <obany> i know pall infected mssql servers sending out packets
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[11:11] <QueenVee>     THANK YOU ZETAPAL     
[11:11] <Zetapal> :)
[11:11] <QueenVee> Hi Mike-O: Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour, 15 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:12] <strikes> yes
[11:12] <obany> some sections ... that you could read trough, pole shift, aftertime, transformation
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[11:13] <strikes> well what is the most noticable thing when earth goes 4th density
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[11:13] <Mike-O> The most noticeable thing is that all of us here will be dead already, since the transition is supposedly far off.
[11:13] <QueenVee> strikes: probably the ability to telepathically communicate
[11:14] <QueenVee> Mike-O: correction, our current bodies will be dead. but we may be here to experience it in different bodies.
[11:14] <strikes> queenvee, I have had experiences with telepathy before like calling my friend just before he calls me
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[11:14] <Mike-O> Could be.
[11:15] <QueenVee> strikes: ZT says that all humans have had such brushes with telepathy, but no unaltered human is able to telepathically communicate like the 4th density zetas do
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[11:15] <strikes> true :)
[11:15] <QueenVee> hi Shaman. Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour, 15 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:15] <JFull> Was the Q. answered and I missed it, but "how long will it be befoe winds die down af PS?
[11:15] <strikes> I have telepathic experiences all the time these days
[11:16] <Shaman464> whitin the first few hours i thought
[11:16] <QueenVee> JFull: the hurricane force winds will die down within hours
[11:16] <obany>     * In general, and to a high degree, telepathy is something your DNA supports. Be aware that only a small segment of humankind can utilize telepathy to any degree. A small percentage of the population has an occasional telepathic experience, rare, sometimes once in a lifetime. Of this small percentage, a smaller yet percentage, perhaps only 2% of the whole population, have any ability that they can muster at will. In that the
[11:16] <obany> are DNA, share brain wave hardware, so to speak, family connections are the most common. Twins and family also share experiences, which also increases occurrences.
[11:16] <obany>  this is from :http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b82.htm
[11:16] <QueenVee> strikes: well, gee, i guess you've made it to fourth density then
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[11:17] <strikes> well I have had felt stuff from people who I barely knew and I was right about it
[11:17] <QueenVee> strikes: so? what's your point?
[11:18] <LeXar> a luck out of a million bud
[11:18] <strikes> lexar, probally
[11:18] <obany> and advice if you can't come up with questions, try to listen to your intution, or do some reading of zetatalk, maybe you can come up with some questions by that , some sections that you might could read trough pole shift, transformation, aftertime  
[11:18] <LeXar> happens to everyone to know something about someone they don't know, it's call intuition
[11:18] <strikes> yes
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[11:19] <QueenVee> obany: from what you know of ZT, will our physical structures also switch to 4th density when we do?
[11:19] <QueenVee> hello zombryo. Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour, 15 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:19] <obany> QueenVee: for what i know yes   
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[11:19] <QueenVee> interesting
[11:20] <QueenVee> hello JohnJ: Welcome. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour, 15 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
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[11:20] <QueenVee> hello Ghetto and Sahir: Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:20] <sahir> Greetings queen
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[11:21] <QueenVee> obany: what about our animals?
[11:21] <obany>     * After the switch, humans will find all the plants and animals now on the 3rd Density Earth, their beautiful world, has also moved. The humans of the future, the hybrids we are developing, will not live in a lifeless 4th Density world - spare, bleak, without vegetation, song birds, or fish. Where we will leave some agents of disease behind, the human body will still be subject to stress and degenerative diseases, as well as
[11:21] <obany> ng, as all this is inherent in the genetic structure of the human body. Lions and tigers and wolves will also come along, as without predators your wild herds would soon create a population problem. The starvation of many versus the occasional quick kill. Nature will continue as before.
[11:21] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d14.htm
[11:21] <sahir> Just loggin in to catch the discussions; will read it later
[11:21] <QueenVee> Thanks Obany!
[11:22] <Douch3> what will this dimension look like? is it a world hidden in our own or is it more complicated then that?
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[11:23] <QueenVee> hello Smurr. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:23] <Shaman464> i wonder Queen, do the terrorist know about the PS and are getting more desprite to attack to get there views across before it happens and they cant do it no more?
[11:23] <smurr> hello QueenVee
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[11:24] <QueenVee> Shaman: there's nothing in ZT to suggest that is the case
[11:24] <QueenVee> Hello RobH: Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:24] <QueenVee> Shaman: how would they know?
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[11:25] <QueenVee> Mulder: Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:25] <Shaman464> well they have sources, they have internet, they may have found ZT or something
[11:25] <Mulder> Hello all
[11:25] <Shaman464> just a thought
[11:26] <obany> advice if you can't come up with questions, try to listen to your intution, or do some reading of zetatalk, maybe you can come up with some questions by that , some sections that you might could read trough pole shift, transformation, aftertime  
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[11:26] <QueenVee> Nick: Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:27] * obany coffee now
[11:27] <smurr> QueenVee have the Zetas discussed how PX first started its journey of distruction? I may have missed it in the zetatalk logs.
[11:27] <QueenVee> okay, here's one: Can the Zetas talk about what specific soul lessons the poleshift and aftertime offers for those currently incaranated on earth?
[11:28] <Shaman464> thats a good question
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[11:29] <Shaman464> will organized reilgon retrun after the shift?
[11:29] <QueenVee> smurr: it's probably been answered in ZT, perhaps obany can askwer that question....
[11:29] <QueenVee> Shaman: yes, i can get you the link for that...
[11:29] <Shaman464> ok
[11:29] <Shaman464> thanks
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[11:30] <Shaman464> hey insomniac
[11:30] <QueenVee> Shaman: here ya go: http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t02.htm
[11:30] <InSomNiaC420> Hey
[11:30] <Ogmios> finnish meteoroligal institute says finnish weather is getting warmer in the future..they firmly believe in global warming it seems
[11:31] <QueenVee> Insomniac: Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
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[11:31] <Mad_Hatter> Greetings from Arizona...
[11:32] <QueenVee> Hi MadHatter: Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:32] <mike> How about this one: is physical survival realy important considering that some survivors will not be spiritualy prepared for the coming changes?
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[11:34] <QueenVee> mike: physical incarnation continues to be necessary for those in 3rd density, in order to learn the lesson of orientation.....
[11:34] <QueenVee> those who will survive the poleshift will have very specific lessons to learn through the experience
[11:34] <QueenVee> those who die will go on to other incarnations
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[11:35] <QueenVee> mike: are you aware that after the poleshift only STO entities will be incarnated on earth?
[11:35] <QueenVee> hello anon:  Can the Zetas talk about what specific soul lessons the poleshift and aftertime offers for those currently incaranated on earth?
[11:35] <QueenVee> woops
[11:35] <anon> hi Queen
[11:35] <mike> yes I am aware
[11:35] <QueenVee> hello anon. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
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[11:36] <QueenVee> mike: the zetas are not trying to ensure that AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE SURVIVE the poleshift
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[11:36] <QueenVee> mike: i guess i'm having trouble understanding your question
[11:37] <QueenVee> hello Dan33. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:37] <QueenVee> mike: could you elaborate?
[11:37] <mike> so I should not worrie about surviving if I have the right STO orientation...?
[11:37] <Shaman464> will groups that never interacted positvely before be more likely to start interact positvely to surive after the shift?
[11:37] <QueenVee> mike: no, no, no, you misunderstand
[11:37] <QueenVee> i did NOT say that only those who are STO will survive
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[11:38] <karmie> Queen - are you going to ask Nancy about the walk-ins question you and I spoke of yesterday?
[11:38] <Shaman464> some may surive do to luck
[11:38] <QueenVee> i'm saying that if it is the decision of your soul to experience the poleshift and survive it, it is because you have valuable lessons to learn, and so you will....
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[11:38] <LeXar> no kidding, with a 90% depleted world
[11:38] <QueenVee> karmie: YES, INDEED
[11:39] <mike> but if I die that does not mean that I wont born again here on planet Earth, right?
[11:39] <karmie> thanks - should be most interesting.
[11:39] <Shaman464> queen has that been answered in ZT?
[11:39] <QueenVee> mike: you will if your soul becomes STO before you die
[11:39] <LeXar> mike, didn't they repeatedly alkedabout being reborn in another 3rd density life
[11:40] <QueenVee> if your soul remains undecided, you will go to a third density world and continue your third density lessons
[11:40] <QueenVee> if your soul decides to be STS, then you will go to an STS world
[11:40] <mike> so there is no reason to be concerned about dieing in the poleshift if I am an STO...
[11:40] <QueenVee> the point is that for some souls, the experience of the poleshift and aftertime is what will make the FINALLY DECIDE
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[11:40] <Shaman464> Queen: Will groups that never interacted positvely before be more likely to start interacting positvely to surive after the shift?
[11:41] <QueenVee> mike: well, i guess you could say that, only in that you will have the opportunity to incarnate on earth again after you die.... but, of course, you do not know if you are STO, do you?
[11:41] <QueenVee> mike: theoretically, there's no reason for ANYONE to be concerned about dying IN ANY WAY
[11:41] <QueenVee> in that we go on to live other lives
[11:42] <mike> well I like to help others as much as I can... does that make me a STO?
[11:42] <QueenVee> so i'm not sure what you mean by "no need to be concerned about dying"
[11:42] <Zetapal> possible Z question: Is the moon of Neptune, Triton, which has the unique characteristic of orbiting in the opposite direction of Neptune's rotation, a captured moon from a previous passage of Planet X ?
[11:42] <InSomNiaC420> Well, if we care about the human race.. we want to live on and reproduce
[11:42] <QueenVee> mike: no one here can make the determination
[11:42] <QueenVee> zetapal: sorry, too theoretical
[11:43] <Shaman464> anyone have an answer for me?
[11:43] <QueenVee> not related to poleshift and aftertime survival
[11:43] <LeXar> I need to reboot, be back in 5
[11:43] <mamakatt> because of health and age i don't want to be a burden on those able to survive
[11:43] <QueenVee> Shaman: answer: well, put it this way: they sure will have the motivation to start doing so
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[11:43] <mike> ok. I understand now QueenVee... thank you.
[11:44] <Zetapal> so its not evidence which would demand a verdict?
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[11:44] <QueenVee> zp: ?
[11:44] <QueenVee> hello Kornel: Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:44] <Zetapal> nevermind Queen
[11:45] <QueenVee> ok
[11:45] <K0rnel_> hi everybody!
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[11:48] <franci66> hello
[11:48] <QueenVee> For those who just entered the room: Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 1 hour. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:50] <Shaman464> brb, ill back in 30
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[11:51] <QueenVee> hello Kindred Sou.  FYI: A ZetaTalk Session with Nancy Lieder begins in the #poleshiftdiscussion channel in 40 minutes. The moderator is currently considering questions for the agenda. To get to that channel, type the following then hit enter:  /join #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:51] <QueenVee> woops
[11:51] <QueenVee> let me try that again
[11:51] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 40 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:51] <Kindred_Soul> hi Queenvee
[11:52] <karmie> Queen - could Nancy tell us more about the map of Michael Scallion - can we use this map as a guide for safe places during/after the pole shift?  In particular, the coastline areas that need to be avoided because of inundation.
[11:53] <obany> advice if you can't come up with questions, try to listen to your intution, or do some reading of zetatalk, maybe you can come up with some questions by that , some sections that you might could read trough pole shift, transformation, aftertime  
[11:53] <QueenVee> karmie: do a search of the ZT site under keyword Scallion and you will find what they have already said about that... it is only partially correct
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[11:53] <QueenVee> obany: i need to run a question by you to make sure it hasn't been asked and answered before; hold on....
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[11:54] <karmie> I have done the reading on this and wonder if she can expand her thoughts to us a little on this matter.
[11:55] <Fangornsm> im just wondering whats gonna happen if this DOESNT happen
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[11:55] <QueenVee> karmie: please provide the link for what ZT already says on the subject, and then very specifically ask a question that is not already addressed
[11:55] <InSomNiaC420> lol
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[11:56] <QueenVee> Fangornsm: you mean you haven't heard about the Kool-aid yet?
[11:56] <QueenVee> hello Dolores. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 40 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:56] <Fangornsm> lol
[11:56] <QueenVee> or is it pudding?
[11:56] <DoloresE> Hello queen and everyone
[11:57] <karmie> queen - here is the link:  http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c45.htm
[11:57] <obany> QueenVee: have a moment please back in a minut from now
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[11:57] <franci66> my Q. regarding PX's visibility. I think many are asking themselves how fast PX must travel towards the solar system to pass from the currrent january 2003 non - (or at least difficult) visibility to the naked eye visibility promised in March-April 2003. Can Zetas answer this?
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[11:57] <Fangornsm> anyone ever heard of the Raelians?
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[11:58] <InSomNiaC420> course we have
[11:58] <piginthecity> sure, rael...peter gabriel's alter ego, right?
[11:58] <QueenVee> Raelians? uh duh, no, not us. we don't no nuthin about what's goin on in the real world
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[11:58] <Fangornsm> i dunno, they weere the ones that did the first cloning right?
[11:58] <Thunderoc> lol QueenV
[11:58] <InSomNiaC420> Supposedly did it first
[11:59] <QueenVee> hello Gyflex. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 30 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[11:59] <QueenVee> in reality did not
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[11:59] <obany> franci66: the speed of Planet X already has been adressed
[11:59] <QueenVee> obany: okay, what do you think of this question:
[11:59] <QueenVee> ZetaTalk has stated that "Ruth Montgomery was among the authors reporting truthfully about the alien presence early in the Earth's Transformation". Ruth Montgomery reported that her Guides told her that there would be a Walk-In president of the US at the time of the poleshift. Can the Zetas comment on this prediction?
[12:00] <Bailey> this worm has hit our research hard, I hope it is not perminant damage
[12:00] <QueenVee> hello serbeo. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 25 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[12:00] <serbeo> hello
[12:00] <dodie> good question queen
[12:01] <obany> it seems like a good question, moment for what i gather Nancy said something about it some time ago ... during a session  
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[12:01] <serbeo> i like that question
[12:01] <karmie> Queen - the link says that scallion colors with his own spins - but I am interested in the map that he has made, if we could use it as a guide - if it has value.
[12:01] <QueenVee> karmie: that's been answered. it's unreliable
[12:01] <QueenVee> hello BobS. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 25 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[12:01] <karmie> ok
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[12:02] <QueenVee> karmie: scallion's map does not represent what is given in the Safe Lcoations document. Why would the zetas recommend it?
[12:02] <QueenVee> hello Gus. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 25 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[12:02] <gus12340> Hello QV
[12:02] <QueenVee> :-)
[12:02] <Thunderoc> Queen, are we allowed to ask questions of the zeta's way of life?..re:  what do they do for fun, how do they experince the concept of 'positive thinking...Do they fall 'in love''...or out of love..how do they handle the concept of dreaming..astral traveling, lucid dreaming,etc?
[12:02] <BobS> Hello Queen and everybody
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[12:02] <Fangornsm> has she answered this one. How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
[12:03] <Fangornsm> i KNOW the zetas havnt answered that one
[12:03] <QueenVee> Thunderoc: check out the second half of the second paragraph of this section: http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w00.htm
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[12:03] <Thunderoc> k
[12:03] <QueenVee> Thunderoc: after reading that, if you still have questions, pose them here
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[12:03] <Bailey> fan, shame on you
[12:03] <QueenVee> hello phoenix. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 25 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[12:03] <Fangornsm> lol, but im right
[12:04] <QueenVee> Fangornsm: lol, yes, you're right
[12:04] <Fangornsm> hehe
[12:04] <piginthecity> hehehe...it says that the Zetas don't look forward to "getting laid."
[12:04] <QueenVee> dont?
[12:04] <Fangornsm> lmao
[12:04] <obany> QueenVee: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/cnov0902.htm take a look at this log .. look for the words walk-in
[12:04] <dodie> brb
[12:04] <piginthecity> yup..don't
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[12:05] <QueenVee> pig: please provide quote and link please
[12:05] <QueenVee> hello me. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 25 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
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[12:05] <piginthecity> someone just did...you did a second ago...hold on
[12:05] <QueenVee> hello Beta. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 20 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[12:05] <me> hi
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[12:05] <QueenVee> pig: exact quote please
[12:05] <piginthecity> back up where you said www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w00.htm
[12:05] <QueenVee> ekim. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 20 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[12:06] <Bailey> does that make queen part zeta, sorry could not help that open line LOL
[12:06] <QueenVee> pig: exact quote,please
[12:06] <piginthecity> last half of second paragraph, under the "entertainment" link
[12:06] <QueenVee> cute
[12:06] <piginthecity> I can't copy and paste on this client
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[12:06] <QueenVee> pig: alright
[12:06] <BobS> The zetas destroyed their home planet. We are in the process of ruining ours. I wonder why is it that the Niburians of px have not done the same to theirs if they are still 3rd density and not leaning toward STO?
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[12:07] <serbeo> Question for the zetas.Will there be a nuk
[12:07] <QueenVee> interesting question,Bob; i just don't know if i would give it high priority here today....
[12:07] <anon> nice question Bob
[12:07] <Tizza> heyall
[12:07] <QueenVee> serbeo: already answered, no nuke
[12:07] <serbeo> forget that
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[12:08] <obany> our planet, is the issue now here, the transformation of earth etc ... just try to keep that im mind
[12:08] <QueenVee> BobS: i
[12:08] <Gyflex> Recently a friend in the USA told me that  illegal  aliens there were promised amnesty and citizenship if they turned themselves in. Apparently the ones who went in were in fact granted citizenship but were promptly turned over to the army for recruitment. Could the zetas comment on whether it is the Bush Admin.'s plan to such persons in IRAQ as guinea pigs during any probable confrontations?
[12:08] <QueenVee> BobS: i'll put it in the list, but we might not get to it
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[12:08] <QueenVee> Gyflex: question rejected
[12:08] <PilsDB> hi all
[12:09] <anon> hi Pils
[12:09] <BobS> Okay queen...just curious
[12:09] <QueenVee> hello Pils. Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 15 minutes. We are currently considering questions for the agenda. If you have a question for the Zetas, please post it in the room for the group to consider.
[12:09] <obany> advice if you can't come up with questions, try to listen to your intution, or do some reading of zetatalk, maybe you can come up with some questions by that , some sections that you might could read trough pole shift, transformation, aftertime  
[12:10] <Bailey> interesting gy
[12:10] <phoenix> Q: Could we get more clarification on lead uptake in vegetation from leaded water?
[12:10] <franci66> Obany, I can put my Q. in another way. When precisely will a "really amateur telescope (which many of us can afford) be sufficient to see PX? what week? If you know the answer, please show me the link
[12:11] <obany> franci66: check http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword032.htm
[12:11] <strikes> franci, good question :)
[12:11] <strikes> if I can see planet X with its moons then I will be moving!
[12:11] <anon> i like it too franci as this is the 'proof' we are waiting for....
[12:11] <Bailey> I red an article this last week of massive white suv and 4x4 sent to texas and equiped with prisoner cages and shakles,  any coment on this?
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[12:12] <Thunderoc> what area of priority are the questions Queen?
[12:12] <abk> weird energy in the air today, like something's going on.  anyone else pick up on this?  maybe Zetas can explain.
[12:12] <QueenVee> Thunderoc: preparation for poleshift and aftertime
[12:12] <Fangornsm> abk. someone probably farted
[12:12] <Kindred_Soul> is it possible that the zetas are giving the wrong coordinates for planetX so that the uncertainty principle is left intacted so they dont violate some prime directive or something?
[12:12] <karmie> abk - I agree - weird energy today
[12:12] <anon> superbowl jitters, abk
[12:12] <Mike-O> Just a comment: I see some 30 postings on TT-Watch this week from a flaming asshole who goes by the name of Yaaada. Not one of these postings say anything.  
[12:13] <Thunderoc> Is t possible for someone to put the current / past pictures of PX into jpeg format on the site?
[12:13] <QueenVee> Mike-O: ya got that right
[12:13] <QueenVee> why they don't boot the guy is a mystery to me
[12:13] <Kindred_Soul> intacted= intact
[12:13] <Bailey> yes abk, many of us have sensed this over the last week, especialy yesterday and today for me
[12:13] <obany> Mike-O: yadaa = howmo = idon't
[12:13] <QueenVee> Kindred: no "are the zetas lying to us" questions
[12:14] <Pegasi_Tristan> Yaaada is always emailing with debunking stuff..I'm sick of it
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[12:14] <Kindred_Soul> not lying per say, just keeping us honest so to speak
[12:14] <QueenVee> well, unless someone comes up with something really compelling in the next 10 minutes, i think we have our agenda of questions for the day....
[12:14] <Mike-O> I believe the Zetas have specifically named Howmo as a debunker, possibly paid.
[12:14] <QueenVee> and excuse me while i get a quick cup of tea before the mayhem starts
[12:14] <obany> advice if you can't come up with questions, try to listen to your intution, or do some reading of zetatalk, maybe you can come up with some questions by that , some sections that you might could read trough pole shift, transformation, aftertime  
[12:14] <phoenix> Q: To what degree will the use of leaded water in agriculture affect the plants?
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[12:16] <me> Do the the Zetas claim to be infallible?   Is it possible that they're incorrect about the severity of the poleshift effects?
[12:16] <franci66> Queen, can Zetas comment about recent 7,8 (or 8,1 richter) Mexican earthquake. Considering the intensity and area it should have caused much more damages...any under reporting in the news?
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[12:16] <Bailey> I do not think lead affects plants, anyone?
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[12:16] <Mike-O> Big news this week: The diplomatic rupture between the U.S. & France/Germany over Iraq.
[12:16] <karmie> me - that is a good question
[12:17] <piginthecity> what else is new, mike?
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[12:17] <piginthecity> heh
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[12:17] <QueenVee> me: they do not claim to be infallible. however, they state that due to the scientific nature of their calculations and predictions it is extremely unlikely theya re wrong
[12:17] <Kindred_Soul> can someone explain, how what is happening with nancy and the zetas is allowed but other things aren't allowed for the zetas to do
[12:17] <me> Thanks.
[12:17] <obany> Mike-O: yes i saw that on the news, and Germany, France being called the old Europe
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[12:17] <QueenVee> Phoenix: QUESTION ACCEPTED
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[12:17] <ekim> Q: The zetas warn about volcanic dust in fallout areas. Given that winds will be swirling, how can we acertain a safe position (N-S-E-W) from eruptions. The animated gif on the web site is little help.
[12:17] <Mike-O> William Safire, the right-wing columnist for the New York Times and a former Nixon speech-writer, went to far as to call Germany's stance "isolationist." . . .
[12:17] <gus12340> Is anyone knows were I get Water distiling equipment?
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[12:17] <Tekk> may I submit question?
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[12:18] <QueenVee> Tekk: it's late in the game, but go ahead
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[12:18] <Mulder> Queen: I wonder if the Zeta's could tell us what would be the next polestar and how we could indentify this star ?
[12:18] <Gyflex> The stock markets have started to fall again;are we entering the final phase now and should we be prepared for this crash as such?
[12:18] <Tekk> ok be right back
[12:18] <JFull-away> Q: is there any test we can do to detect lead in water or plants?
[12:18] <Mike-O> It's so ironic when it's the Bush Regime that's isolationist.
[12:18] <QueenVee> ekim: question answered in zt
[12:18] <Pegasi_Tristan> pwell says there are a "dozen unnamed" allies for the us...what a bunch of bull
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[12:18] <Tekk> POSSIBLE Q:   Those that perish in the shift, etc, will probably be looking for closure
[12:18] <Thunderoc> Question:   Is it advisable to secure quantities of Hydrogen Peroxide (food Grade), for water purrification, immunity bolstering, as the toxic elements (like lead), as oxidation properties of oxygen/hydrogen peroxide can provide much needed help to the body's immune system...
[12:18] <Tekk> regarding loved ones left behind.  If there are policies in place for this, may we know
[12:18] <Tekk> something about them?  Or is this outside the Zetan focus?
[12:19] <Fangornsm> i still dont know why this stuff is only available for people who have a computer and the internet
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[12:19] <QueenVee> Tekk: your qestion is incomprehensible
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[12:19] <M> hello all
[12:19] <Tekk> no it isn't
[12:19] <QueenVee> well, it is to me, so please try and rephrase it
[12:19] <LeXar> took me more time than expected, sorry
[12:19] <Mulder> gus12340: You don't need water destillation equipment. Do a Google search for Air-wells
[12:19] <Tekk> I don't know how to phrase it any better
[12:19] <Bailey> pegasi, thoes whould be the countries who get a piece of the oil pie
[12:20] <piginthecity> mmmm...oil pie
[12:20] <Pegasi_Tristan> thats scary :(
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[12:20] <gus12340> Ok thank You
[12:20] <QueenVee> DOES ANYONE HERE UNDERSTAND TEKK'S ANSWER STATED ABOVE, AND IF SO COULD THEY EXPLAIN IT TO ME?
[12:20] <azul> hello
[12:20] <Fangornsm> i dont
[12:20] <JFull-away> Q: is there any test we can do to detect lead in water or plants?
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[12:20] <Shaman464> tes
[12:20] <Tekk> it's  not an answer, it's a question
[12:20] <tied> good question
[12:20] <Shaman464> yes*
[12:20] <piginthecity> QV: he's asking if we can communicate with our deceased friends and family through the Zetas, or something...?
[12:20] <QueenVee> Welcome. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 5 minutes.
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[12:20] <Shaman464> have someone you dont like try it before you
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[12:21] <Tekk> the Zetas will understand it
[12:21] <Zetapal> Mulder - if you think about it, the star,"the North Star" will remain the same polestar as the orientation of the magnetic field fro earth will remain the same in space, only the surface of the land will have moved
[12:21] <Douch3> Teks question is simple: are there rules to loved ones staying behind
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[12:21] <Thunderoc> Can anyone repost pictures of Px (on zeta site), intoJpeg format??
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[12:21] <M> wee i made it to this one thank god.
[12:21] <QueenVee>     HELLO NANCY     
[12:21] <obany> Hello Nancy
[12:21] <NancyL> Hello all.  I'm ready to start anytime, Queen.  I have 3 Signs of the Times if anyone is interested.
[12:21] <Shaman464> Hello Nancy
[12:21] <strikes> hey nancy
[12:21] <QueenVee> yes, we're interested nancy. go ahead.
[12:21] <Pegasi_Tristan> yes!
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[12:21] <NancyL> SIGNS of the TIMES #1
[12:21] <NancyL> Just received the new Feb issue of Harper's... the front cover top feature article is; 'A COMET'S TALE on the Science of Apocalypse' ... 15, repeat, 15, very interesting and intense pages of the history of perceived apocalypses, mass extintions, asteroids, and specially comets that could wipe out most of mankind and our civilization.
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[12:22] <NancyL> The article is sending very, very, strong messages, it is not poo-pooing planet X or the upcoming event, it is a warning to it's readership. The article states that 'George W. Bush, [is] arguably the worst president in American history' It also states that Millenium Challenge, the military excercise of last year, 2002, ....'was based on a rogue military commander staging a coup in an earthquake-riven Middle Eastern nation.'
[12:22] <NancyL> SIGNS of the TIMES #2
[12:22] <NancyL> NASA eyes nuclear-powered rocket, Agency expected to seek funding to develop way to travel 3 times faster, Los Angeles Times, Fri, Jan. 17, 2003,  http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/4967388.htm "The space agency is expected to request "significant resources and funding" to design a nuclear-powered propulsion system to triple the speed of current space travel, theoretically making it possible for humans to reach Mars
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[12:22] <NancyL> SIGNS of the TIMES #3
[12:22] <NancyL> Jim Scotti and Sarah Mac discussing Nancy's "nonexistent" planet and how bright it will be 7 weeks before passage.  From a sci.astro posting:
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[12:22] <NancyL> Sarah Mc "If that's the case, I have to rewrite some web pages. I assumed her planet would have to be at magnitude 5 or 6 in 84 days (from it's current invisible status). I take that back - it has to be around 10 or 12 magnitudes brighter, around a -5 or -6 to be  a daytime, naked eye object. My only experience with bright, daytime naked eye objects is Iridium flares - so if anyone has a limiting magnitude for daytime, naked
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[12:23] <NancyL> prepare for unless you are lucky enough to have a flare near the zenith  or some other easily found location on the sky, so daytime Iridium  flares may not be the best comparison."
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[12:23] <NancyL> Done Signs of the Times
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[12:23] <QueenVee> Thanks nancy. first question coming up.
[12:23] <QueenVee>  FIRST QUESTION:  What specific soul lessons does the poleshift and aftertime experience offer to those currently incarnated on earth? Does it in essence represent the last opportunity on earth for humans to make a decision about their orientation?
[12:24] <NancyL> We also had a sci.astro posting from a supposedly nonprejudiced person (read debunker) giving instructions on how to avoid being banned during these chats :-).  They must be getting desperate.
[12:25] <NancyL> ZT: Humans tend to underestimate the number of incarnations they will have before advancing to light form, the stage where a body no longer is a learning tool.
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[12:26] <NancyL> ZT: They explore their past lives, digging about with a past life regression therapist, and remember ONLY those that are pleasant or put their actions in a good light.
[12:26] <NancyL> ZT: The horrific times, or times when they behaved so badly they prefer not to dwell on the matter, are NOT brought forward.
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[12:27] <NancyL> ZT: The soul, of course, does not forget, but the human consciousness, hearing these tales, discards them and will only allow the pleasant to come through.
[12:28] <NancyL> ZT: Incarnations run into the thousands, in the main, before a graduation to 4th Density spiritual is achieved.  Nancy is an example of someone who QUICKLY made her orientation decision, having done so in a little more than 1,200 lifetimes, but there are others who require 50,000 or more incarnations to firmly decide.
[12:29] <NancyL> ZT: Even then, entities may vacilate, and need to RETURN to 3rd Density to re-establish this decision.
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[12:30] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, most reincanating entities on Earth have BEEN through repeated pole shifts, or horrors of natural disasters equivalent, so this experience is not different and certainly not new.
[12:30] <NancyL> ZT: For instance, someone living on a volcanic island, during an eruption, is living through a similar horror.
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[12:31] <NancyL> ZT: Or someone facing a tidal wave, or a mud slide on steep slopes, burried alive and smothering in liquid mud during their last minutes.
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[12:31] <NancyL> ZT: Or someone caught in fire, burning alive, whether this is a situation nature or accident causes or done at the hands of man as was the case during the Middle Ages.
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[12:32] <NancyL> ZT: Certainly, the horrors of the coming shift are no different, no more a learning tool, and ALL situations where the entity has choices allow movement toward determination, final determination, of the 3red Density lesson, which is the orientation decision.
[12:32] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?
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[12:33] <Tizza> do these souls esentually remain in their family groups as they "travel" thru theses re-incarnations?
[12:33] <QueenVee> follow-up questions?
[12:33] <Thunderoc> What revelence do Emotions play regarding advancing to light form? Have the zeta's found that by genetically altering their own emotional response / abuilities, that it has helped their forms advance to light form 4th desity? and how so?
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[12:33] <Tekk> will those that don't make it through the shift be allowed closure regarding those left behind?
[12:33] <samsara2003> Wow, that puts things into perspective
[12:33] <Spunky> what happens between incarnations?
[12:33] <obany> please keep your follow up questions related to the answers
[12:33] <obany> Spunky: has been adressed
[12:33] <QueenVee> Tekk: try and be more specific. what do you mean by "closure"?
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[12:34] <NancyL> ZT to Tizza: Humans often encounter what is termed soul mates, or souls they have dealt with before.
[12:34] <NancyL> ZT: That this could HAPPEN, given the numbers and likelihood by chance, seems unlikely.
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[12:35] <NancyL> ZT: Indeed, such encounters are GUIDED, both souls desiring this encounter, and the Spirit Guides allowing this.
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[12:36] <NancyL> ZT: Often, if a soul has a particularly difficult task, or will be undertaking a particularly significant task that is of importance for its growth, having old and familiar companions is deemed an assist.
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[12:36] <NancyL> ZT: However, this is the EXCEPTION, less than 1% of incarnations including such encounters or arrangements.
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[12:37] <NancyL> ZT: There are souls that tend to limit the NUMBERS of other entities they can deal with, such that STO is interpreted as concern for the GROUP, not the larger Universe.
[12:37] <NancyL> ZT: The GROUP, thus, is variously defined.
[12:38] <NancyL> ZT: A group might be no more than the extended family, during an incarnation, or the local community, or the country or those sharing the religious beliefs.
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[12:38] <NancyL> ZT: This type of limitation is the NORM, even for highly experienced STO entities who would most definitely be considered old souls.
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[12:39] <NancyL> ZT: But there are others, an example Nancy and ourselves, the team of Zetas talking to you here, who consider the larger scope.
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[12:39] <NancyL> ZT: At a minimum, we include the population of the Earth, and include in our concerns all visitors from ANYWHERE in the STO orientation who are interacting on Earth, or will be.
[12:40] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, this is a decision, or perhaps a limitation, of the entity, whether to cling to small and familiar groups or be expansive and explorative.
[12:40] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?
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[12:40] <Tizza> understand..thankyou
[12:40] <duane> Is there a record for the shortest number of incarnations a 3rd density being experienced before graduating to 4th density?
[12:40] <Spunky> where is memory stored - in the physical brain or in the spirit?
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[12:40] <mike> so out of the 10% who will eventually survive the poleshift, what percentage is expected to make it thru 4th density?
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[12:41] <obany> duane: for what i know this depends on the soul... don't think that a record can be givven for this
[12:41] <NancyL> Duane, the exact number probably does not matter, but I'm getting a quick answer of about 420 or so.
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[12:41] <NancyL> Spunky, both, and they chat with each other.  The brain dies upon death of the human, but the spirit ALSO has all this recorded, and does not forget.
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[12:42] <QueenVee> ready for next question, nancy?
[12:42] <NancyL> ZT to Mike: We have stated that there are 1 billion reincarnating souls on Earth, which have evolved on Earth.
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[12:43] <NancyL> ZT: Of this, less than 25% or STO in their orientation, approximately 7% are STS, and the remaining some 68% are undecided.
[12:43] <NancyL> End ZT to Mike.
[12:43] <NancyL> Read Queen :-)
[12:43] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION:
[12:43] <QueenVee>  PREAMBLE:   
[12:43] <QueenVee>  ZT has stated that "Ruth Montgomery was among the authors reporting truthfully" about aliens, walk-ins, etc Montgomery’s Guides told her there would be a Walk-In president of the US at the time of the poleshift, who would help people through it. ZT has also stated that the US government will not disappear after the shift, but will be "diminished to a very small locale"....
[12:44] <QueenVee> QUESTION:  Can the Zetas comment on Ruth Montgomery’s prediction about a Walk-In president? Is it possible that there will be a new president of this "diminished" US government after the poleshift that could the the walk-in she speaks of?
[12:44] <NancyL> ZT: Ruth Montgomery is a valid channel but is in touch with entities other than ourselvs.
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[12:45] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, to disect her channeled reports is to step in and speak FOR these entities, who would understandably resent this.
[12:46] <NancyL> ZT: Any channeled work done in the PAST is also subject to change, when the actions are in the hands of man, as we have repeatedly stressed.
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[12:47] <NancyL> ZT: It is a logical, and predictable, assumption that given the polarization to STS the Senior Bush as President had, and the behind the scenes maneuvers, the extremely harsh treatment of Clinton during his era, that STS humans would attempt to take over the Presidency of the US going into the shift.
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[12:48] <NancyL> ZT: 40 million dollars was spent on finding criminal actions of Clinton re 40 thousand dollars, yet the Enron connection to the current President, his criminal accounting during Harken Energy, Chenny's criminal accounting during Haliburton, are all excused.
[12:49] <NancyL> ZT: This is an example of the DETERMINATION of the STS humans currently in charge of the White House to gain power, and their intense resentment that Clinton withstood them as long as he did.
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[12:50] <NancyL> ZT: Pollution is on the upswing, forgiven to a horrific degree by the former Governor who had the LARGEST polluting record, over Texas, of any other state, but this is overlooked and never mentioned by the media.
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[12:51] <NancyL> ZT: More homeless, in states strapped for funds to feed them, while the Military is being beefed up so the Bush family and cohorts can gain control of Iraq oil, and no one mentioned this in them edia.
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[12:51] <NancyL> ZT: Now, given such a mind set in control, WHY would a walk-in occur?
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[12:52] <NancyL> ZT: Those chosing the STS orientation are not strong types, they are the typical bully who is endlessly cruel as long as they are on TOP, but who whimper and plead the moment the tables are turned.
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[12:53] <NancyL> ZT: Cowards, at their base, pandering to their comforts and changing loyalties freely.
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[12:53] <NancyL> ZT: Given the situation where a President, predictably STS at the time Ruth's prediction was made, would be faced with maintaining a public face to a hostile public, what is to be expected?
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[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: This is tense, the public face needing to be empathic yet maintaining the lie, the demands from various STS advisers and handlers in conflict, all demanding cooperation.
[12:55] <NancyL> ZT: There is no ONE boss in this matter, so dissention is rift, yet grabbing the bottle or snorting cocain is not allowed!  
[12:55] <NancyL> ZT: This type of situation is something a highly STS person could and does frequently tolerate, in order to achieve a mission, but the STS are a different lot.
[12:56] <NancyL> ZT: They want quick gratification, and go for it, and when these maneuvers don't win, they show their resentment.
[12:56] <QueenVee> Nancy: i think you mean "a highly STO person"?
[12:56] <NancyL> Correction, "something a highly STO person could and does"
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[12:57] <NancyL> ZT: When they present their irritation, this is COUNTER to their handlers demands, as they are expected to pretent they are empathic to the lot of the public.
[12:58] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, this is STRESSFUL on an STS puppet, such as the current President, the Junior Bush, represents.
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[12:59] <NancyL> ZT: Given that the spirit can decide to leave the body, and have a conference with their Spiritu Guides on this matter quite OUTSIDE of the awareness of human handlers present, an exit can occur.
[12:59] <QueenVee> A ZetaTalk Session with Nancy Lieder is in progress. Moderation mode is on while she does ZetaTalk -- i.e. no one else can post. However, there will be opportunity for follow-up comments and questions afterwards.
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[12:59] <NancyL> ZT: If the body is void of an incarnating spirit, it is open to volunteers, and since the STS spirits would be LOATHE to enter into this situation, painful for an STS spirit, it is an opportunity.
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[13:00] <NancyL> ZT: Whether such an exist and potential walk-in occurs is in the hands of man, or certainly in the spirit incarnated in the Junior Bush and his henchman Chenny, so is not something we care to predict.
[13:00] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?
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[13:01] <longint> Nancy: There was a misunderstanding about the number of incarnated Starchildren on Earth. Could the Zetas restate this number?
[13:01] <Mike-O> Several books have been published recently with the theme "How liberals are taking away the freedom of Americans." What STS group(s) is coordinating this garbage?
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[13:01] <Zetapal> wow - fascinating - excellent question, who came up with that one?
[13:01] <karmie> So are you saying that Clinton is STO?
[13:01] <humvee> Could the Zetas expand on what they call the (STO) handlers?
[13:01] <tied> the zetas
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[13:01] <NancyL> Long, the last time this was addressed was a month or more ago, and at that time they said numbers increasing, about 1 billion to equal the number of Terran born reincarnating spirits.
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[13:02] <NancyL> So, 6 billion, 1 billion are Earth born reincarnating, 1 billion Star Kids, and 4 billion unsparked or new or whatever.
[13:03] <QueenVee> ready for next question, nancy?
[13:03] <NancyL> Mike-O, there are so MANY of them, and often those behind the scenes are not known, so does it matter?
[13:03] <NancyL> Karmie, Clinton leaned in that direction, but was undecided.
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[13:04] <NancyL> Hunvee, did I say STO handlers?  Was saying STS handlers of Bush, did I misstate?
[13:04] <QueenVee> no, nancy, you didn't
[13:04] <QueenVee> i think Humvee mistated
[13:04] <NancyL> Long, I have lost the Q I accepted from you last week, so for the #zetatalk please repeat it then in the log :-).
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[13:05] <NancyL> Few people thing that Bush Jr is anything but a puppet of more powerful.  HItler was a puppet, NOT the leader at all.
[13:06] <NancyL> I'm ready for the next Q, Queen, guess discussion died down.
[13:06] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION:  
[13:06] <QueenVee>  PREAMBLE:  The Zetas have indicated that "There are entities from Zeta Reticuli who are currently  incarnated into human form" and that "being in human form at this time allows these entities to assist, most directly, with the Transformation".
[13:06] <QueenVee>  QUESTION: Could the Zetas comment on HOW such entities are assisting with the Transformation, and in what areas/occupations/countries we are most likely to find them? And are they (and/or those around them) aware of their non-terrestrial origin?
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[13:07] <NancyL> ZT: Star Children, who are entities that were born as spirits on worlds OTHER than the Earth, are from a widely varried backgrounds.
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[13:08] <NancyL> ZT: As most emerged on water worlds, this is their base experience, and they tend toward fluid social interactions as a result.
[13:08] <NancyL> ZT: A water baby can move in more directions that humans are used to, and this is an excape mechanism used.
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[13:09] <NancyL> ZT: Likewise, entities that were birds in their early existence use flight to escape, in the main, and do NOT stand and fight.
[13:09] <NancyL> ZT: Of course, both experiences have situation where being trapped, or pressed, to confront occurs.
[13:10] <NancyL> ZT: The water baby can find itself pressed into a rock crevice, with no where to escape.
[13:10] <NancyL> ZT: The bird form can find its young under attack, and decide to enter the fray even at cost to itself.
[13:10] <NancyL> ZT: Reptilian evolution is confronations, as in hominoid, as the creature is land based and moves relatively slowly.
[13:11] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, fainting is an escape, or a version of fainting, if flight or fight is not determined.
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[13:12] <NancyL> ZT: Beyond the base life form experience, there is the social complexity, where to say that billions of cultures are involved in the Universe to which the Earth is a part is an understatement.
[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: Of the billion of so incarnated Star Children on Earth at this time, assisting with the Transformation and Awakening, it would be fair to say that a least a million different background, including base lifeform and cultures, is represented.
[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: There is a LOT of difference of opinion on how to proceed, and a LOT of difference in what tasks are accepted.
[13:14] <NancyL> ZT: Some prefer to be in the background, in a support capacity.
[13:14] <NancyL> ZT: Some have specialties, and will only function in those, checking OUT to fall to the side on matters if the setting is not just right.
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[13:15] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, for us to try to make statements as to WHAT tasks a Star Child might assume, would be impossibile, they are too varied!
[13:16] <NancyL> ZT: They are likely to be the garbage man as a CEO, a cripled child as an athlete, and poorly socialized and isolated as charming.
[13:16] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?
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[13:16] <longint> Ok, the channel was muted so I couldn't reply. The reason I asked the Q about the number was this, in v70.htm:
[13:16] <longint>  Incarnated Star Children are not considered by us to be contactees, they are themselves visitors. Their number ranges, depending upon walk-in status, between several hundred thousand upwards toward a million.
[13:16] <Okidok> maybe there are zetas incarnated into human form in this forum?
[13:16] <franci66> Nancy, What is the difference between a sparked and unsparked soul?
[13:17] <phoenix> Have the souls of some Star Children had life experiences on multiple worlds?
[13:17] <longint> http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v70.htm
[13:17] <Mike-O> Whenever I see a picture of Eminem, I think "Unsparked entity" -- puppet of the STS music industry.
[13:17] <Bailey> can one opt out, choose to cease to exsist?
[13:17] <M> so, nancy ,foregive me if this sounds like a strange thing to state, but do you consider yourself a starchild, being that what you have done is assisting in the with the transformation and awakening?
[13:17] <zombryo> JLet's say we have a survival group, composed solely of STO individuals. These people are still HUMANS, and being so, feel laziness, are by nature aggressive, deal with conflicts due to disparity of age, cling to religions, have preconceptions, and sometimes make decisions simpetuously, in particular if they don't know each other quite well yet. The Zetas have been spoken quite few about the regulations of THEIR society ("O
[13:17] <zombryo>  rules are a whole other question, which would be extensive to answer." - o01.htm) considering that we are close to the time, wouldn't it be good for us to know a bit more about what proper guidelines can be applied in a community of STO people, for the benefit of a more EFFECTIVE working, for everyone's advance? Or are we to figure these out by ourself?
[13:18] <NancyL> Long, V70 was written when?  They have stepped up their pace in becoming walk-ins, etc, and I persoanlly know of a situation where this occurred.
[13:18] <longint> 1998. november
[13:18] <longint> !
[13:18] <longint> Ok then..
[13:18] <NancyL> Times get tense, a body has an unsparked soul, EMPTY, and an entity wants to walk-in.  Empty room, so why not?
[13:19] <Mad_Hatter> Are Star Children and Indigo Children the same?
[13:19] <NancyL> Bailey, a Star Child can leave the body, leaving an empty body, I'm sure yes.
[13:19] <NancyL> M, I'm Terran born, and young, no Star Child.
[13:20] <obany> Mad_Hatter: well i think some use that term indigo children ... to explain those who are starchildren
[13:20] <JoeyB> NancyL: Would you say the Zetas make up a good percentage of incarnated star kids?
[13:21] <NancyL> ZT to Zom: STO communities, and their interactions are something we have described in an attempt to give humans an understanding.
[13:21] <Gyflex> how does a walk in happen?does the body have to 'die' somehow?
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[13:21] <NancyL> ZT: We have described how we operate "without money" the title of the piece, for instance, replacing concern and communication for financial transations.
[13:22] <NancyL> ZT: Humans, confused about WHO and WHAT is STO, assume many people and actions to be thus when it is NOT.
[13:22] <NancyL> ZT: An example might be a vain person, who spends time on their appearance and is distressed by being dirty or unkempt.
[13:23] <NancyL> ZT: Is this STO or STS?  Depends.  Given a choice of completing an obligation, putting the self in distress to help others who NEED that help, the STO vain person would show their colors.
[13:24] <NancyL> ZT: If leaning toward STS, or undecided, this person might turn their back on others in need to keep themselves prim, or vacilate.
[13:25] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, vanity, or laziness, or argumentativeness, or combativeness, or intellectual flights, or a tendency to hoard, or a tendency to check out when matters get tense, NONE of these are in and of themselves exempt from being part of an STO entities behavior.
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[13:25] <NancyL> ZT: One must see the STO person in a situation where they must CHOSE, or CHANGE their behavior, to assist others, or NOT.
[13:26] <NancyL> ZT: We have stated that actions are more important that words, that words do NOT indicate orientation, but what the person does when a conflict occurs.
[13:26] <NancyL> ZT: These conflict situations must be where the person will potentially LOSE for themselves, lose their life, their possession, their stature, their healthy, whatever.
[13:27] <NancyL> ZT: It is THEN that you see the nature of the person, when put to this test.
[13:27] <NancyL> ZT: Someone may be considered lazy, but this in effect a difference of opinion on what NEEDS to be done.
[13:28] <NancyL> ZT: Must the house be all that clean, the ground trimmed, the car washed, or can life go on just as well with these tasks undone?
[13:28] <NancyL> ZT: Someone may be considered unsocial, preferring to isolate themselves rather than interact in endless chatter, but is this a sign that they are not STO?
[13:29] <NancyL> ZT: Should the situation be that communication and interaction is NEEDED, in order to save the group from distress, the unsocial and uncommunicative one is suddenly a chatterbox!
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[13:30] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, is it not possible to give humans, who in the main ARE undecided, guidelines to determine who is STO and who is not, nor to advise thus on social structure for a survival groups whom one hopes will be essentially STO.
[13:30] <NancyL> ZT: These matters will sort out quickly when the shift occurs, with the true colors of humans on display, often a SHOCK to those who assumed otherwise.
[13:31] <NancyL> ZT: Wait and see, and be prepared to make changes if need be, at that time.
[13:31] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter and you know, its the end of the hour too!
[13:31] <QueenVee> Wow. Great information.
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[13:31] <Thunderoc> so is the 50% rule of careing for others then subject to interpretation?...how is this judgement made and by whom?...and so when a person 'loses'...is it safe to assume the 'nice guys finish last...thus end up STO?..agai...how is this 'final' judgement made?
[13:31] <obany> good answer Nancy
[13:31] <QueenVee>  Unfortunately, that’s the hour, so Nancy has to go. Another great session, Nancy. Thank you!
[13:31] <longint> This was a great session
[13:31] <ChiefSimi> Does a walked-in starchild soul recognize that it was not in there before?
[13:31] <Pegasi_Tristan> yes, it was
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[13:31] <GalacticExplorer> Thanks Nancy
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[13:31] <NancyL> Very much the soul, this session.
[13:31] <serbeo> cool
[13:31] <M> yes thanks NANCYL!!!!!
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[13:32] <Domicile> Thanks Nancy and Z's
[13:32] <Bailey> thank you nancy, facinating food for thought once again
[13:32] <Zetapal> wow - amazing session - thanks nancy
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[13:32] <abk> thanks nancy
[13:32] <me> Thank you.
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[13:32] <DonMB> Nancy:  Why has there been no posted analysis of the Jan18 images of Planet X?  Did they miss the target?
[13:32] <NancyL> ZT to Chief: The human incarnated by a walk-in feels different, recognizes that something has changed, but often ascribes this to some recent occurence, like an accident or illness.
[13:32] <NancyL> End ZT to Chief.
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[13:33] <NancyL> DomMB, because we've all been busy, and this should be up tomorrow.
[13:33] <DonMB> thanx
[13:33] <Thunderoc> Nancy...Is it possible to convert the Px pictures to jpeg format so that all can view on the website?
[13:33] <NancyL> In fact, Jan 18th had a full mooon, and is not the best images to look at.
[13:33] <SteveH> New images were taken last night as well, 3x1200sec exposures
[13:33] <Pegasi_Tristan> :)
[13:33] <NancyL> However, there is a NEW set yet, Jan 25th, (phew)
[13:33] <DawnnaLee> Thanks Nancy...Great Session..
[13:33] <SteveH> much better resolution than the Jan 18 images, moon not out
[13:34] <obany> this was a good session hope that the next one will be just as good
[13:34] <Thunderoc> Steve Is it possibe to convert the Px images to jpeg format so that all can view on the website?
[13:34] <ChiefSimi> interesting session indeed, and no politics! :)
[13:34] <DonMB> Can't wait to see them
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[13:34] <NancyL> Ah, Steve :-).  And we dealt with the asteroid issue, the team determining that Cunningham's object A is indeed 2001 KS14.
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[13:34] <mamakatt>   thanks Nancy and QueenVee great session
[13:34] <NancyL> Astronomical Dummy, Nancy overridden :-).
[13:34] <Tekk> SteveH: is PX any bigger in the latest pics?
[13:34] <QueenVee> NancyL: get ready for the assholes; they're already warming up in there....
[13:35] <NancyL> Bye all, going to break for the next #zetatalk session.
[13:35] <GalacticExplorer> Bye Nancy
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[13:36] <Pegasi_Tristan> I luuv when the Z's talk of souls..it is sooo fascinating :)
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[13:36] <Bailey> they have been heating up for a week, lol, asburn time
[13:36] <SteveH> Tekk, looks like a new object shows up just to the right of the Jan21 coordinates, a new, diffuse object below, some stuff above so looks pretty interesting
[13:36] <Thunderoc> Steve...Is it possible to convert the Px images, past and present to peg format so that all can view them on the website?
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[13:36] <Fangornsm> yea, cause i cant
[13:36] <Thunderoc> jpeg^
[13:36] <SteveH> you can't view in BMP format?
[13:36] <obany> and of course we can expect howmo aka idon't to try his thing again
[13:36] <BC> another pixel defect?
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[13:36] <obany> BC: shut up
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[13:37] <Thunderoc> no, some people have webtv..and / or interactive...so can't view no
[13:37] <BC> more noise?
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[13:37] <Tekk> I viewed last weeks in BMP, and just seems like it doesn't get any bigger
[13:37] <obany> BC: goto www.noiselovers.com
[13:37] <Tekk> any bigger than a few months ago
[13:37] <Fangornsm> how fast is it moving
[13:37] <SteveH> it is still a long ways away, so would only appear very small depending how the moon swirls are linning up or not
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[13:38] <ojabun> 'When the sun is in the 20th degree of the bull,than the earth will tremble massive...The big filled theatre will go down by it...'the sky,the air and earth will become dark and clouded...Than even the unbeliever will call apon God and the saints'...that date is on 11 of may
[13:38] <SteveH> PX itself would only be about 1% the size of jupiter at this time
[13:38] <Bailey> #zetatalk
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[13:38] <tied> Does anyone else want this file " All about food and water" it's packed full of good info on food processing and water treatment, skinning animals, taning, and such  I can dcc.
[13:38] <Tekk> but I thought we'd be able to see it starting in October last year or something
[13:38] <SteveH> it's there on the images though, I'm pretty sure of it
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[13:39] <humvee> tied ok
[13:39] <Bailey> I do tied
[13:39] <Tekk> just seems like all the pics I've seen, nothing changes
[13:39] <Tekk> all just background stars
[13:39] <Thunderoc> I wish I could see the pics..:o(
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[13:40] <Pegasi_Tristan> I think the moons were pretty obvious
[13:40] * Thunderoc has to trust others see them...and will corelate the reality for him ..lol
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[13:40] <Bailey> thank you tied, does it cover using piss and brains to tan your hide LOL
[13:40] <Thunderoc> how are the moons bigger than px??
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[13:40] <tied> bailey yes lol
[13:41] <Bailey> good
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[13:42] <Fangornsm> i dont know how u can identify its planet x, when all the other "small" dots look all the same
[13:42] <Pegasi_Tristan> look at the dss compared to the pics...
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[13:43] <Pegasi_Tristan> lots of new stuff...and moving!
[13:43] <humvee> Peg where r u looking?
[13:43] <Pegasi_Tristan> All the pics taken by the team
[13:44] <QueenVee> hey Fang
[13:44] <BC> how about pics from others than the team...??
[13:44] <humvee> yes r the jan 18th analysis up (i dont c it)
[13:44] <BC> amateur sightings???
[13:44] <Fangornsm> all i see is the letter T, that is it
[13:44] <QueenVee> OKAY, TIME FOR THE TROLLS TO RETURN TO THEIR BRIDGES
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