Session Start: Mon Jan 27 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
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[00:47] <Richard> hi
[00:47] <scooby-afk> nite rich
[00:47] <scooby-afk> i am heading for bed soon....
[00:48] <scooby-afk> not quite afk yet
[00:48] <scooby-afk> lol
[00:48] <Richard> later already
[00:48] <Richard> no one here is a good sign i hope
[00:48] <Richard> all are away preparing?
[00:48] <scooby-afk> lol... or sleeping
[00:49] <Richard> what time there
[00:50] <Richard> its nearly 10pm Monday night here
[00:52] <scooby-afk> 12:17 AM Monday morn
[00:52] <scooby-afk> scratch that
[00:52] <scooby-afk> 12:50 AM
[00:53] <Richard> was public holiday here today
[00:53] <scooby-afk> PC clock was stuck
[00:53] <scooby-afk> for the Super Bowl?
[00:53] <scooby-afk> lol
[00:53] <Richard> lol
[00:53] <Richard> no Auckland Anniversary Day
[00:54] <Richard> you have a California State public holiday ? Same thing
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[00:54] <islander> hi all
[00:54] <Richard> hi islander
[00:55] <Richard> pretty quiet here
[00:55] <islander> how are you today?
[00:55] <scooby-afk> richard: no  Auckland Anniversary Day in California
[00:55] <Richard> hope not scooby
[00:55] <Richard> good islander
[00:56] <islander> whats the topic tonight?
[00:56] <Richard> don't know ... only just arrived
[00:57] <scooby-afk> !topic
[00:57] <Richard> how many hours before Bushes Stae Nation speech?
[00:57] <scooby-afk> not enough
[00:57] <islander> lol
[00:57] <Richard> :+)
[00:57] <islander> State of the Empire speech?
[00:57] <scooby-afk> guys, i am sure you know, he doesn't really represent all, or even most, Americans
[00:58] <Richard> daddy will be in shadows pullin the strings
[00:58] <scooby-afk> but just a few dummies
[00:58] <islander> we don't hold you responsible
[00:58] <Richard> i know ... just happens to be president by theft
[00:58] <scooby-afk> whew
[00:58] <scooby-afk> theif in cheif
[00:58] <scooby-afk> or thief in chief
[00:58] <scooby-afk> not sure
[00:59] <scooby-afk> i call him the p-Resident
[00:59] <scooby-afk> emphasis on the Resident part
[00:59] <scooby-afk> or G-Dub the Shrub
[00:59] <scooby-afk> not a full fledged Bush yet
[00:59] <Richard> its the cronies who surround him
[00:59] <Richard> rumsfeld
[00:59] <scooby-afk> same ones his dad had
[00:59] <Richard> terrible human being
[00:59] <scooby-afk> all of them
[01:00] <Richard> I know
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[01:00] <islander> oh oh, no op, do we have to behave?
[01:00] <Richard> islander which part of States are you in?
[01:01] <islander> not in states, in Canada, Vancouver Island in BC
[01:01] <Richard> oops
[01:01] <islander> thats okay, a lot of Canadians don't know the difference either
[01:02] <Richard> you convinced of inbound px?
[01:02] <Richard> last time we talked you were unsure (from memory)
[01:02] <islander> comes from watching a lot of American TV shows
[01:02] <islander> not that unsure, started prep a while ago
[01:03] <islander> ffamily has no knowledge though
[01:03] <Richard> family as in parents etc or wife etc
[01:03] <islander> all
[01:03] <Richard> ouch
[01:04] <Richard> wife wondering why tins of food stacking up ?
[01:04] <islander> I 'm out in the weeds as far as their concerned
[01:04] <islander> they're
[01:04] <Richard> any children?
[01:04] <islander> plans for that type of thing is to purchase on a scchedule
[01:04] <islander> yep
[01:05] <Richard> at home?
[01:05] <islander> part time one, full time other
[01:05] <Richard> ok
[01:05] <Richard> we have three ...all lefthome now
[01:05] <islander> the plan is to make purchases prior to visibility, panic sets in
[01:06] <Richard> wife & I are preparing together
[01:06] <islander> are they included in your plans?
[01:06] <Richard> yes before its sighted
[01:06] <Richard> we have told kids
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[01:06] <Richard> 1 will arrive when px sighted
[01:06] <islander> I invested a fair amount in astronomy and photo gear to get early picks and validation
[01:07] <Richard> over two think mum/dad lost marbles
[01:07] <islander> will need that before I empty out the accounts
[01:07] <Richard> and have you sighted it ?
[01:07] <islander> if there was a sky not covered in clouds or vapourtrails
[01:08] <Richard> yes that is a problem
[01:08] <Richard> ah the vapout ytrails
[01:08] <islander> setting up last equipment to do long exposure film capture
[01:08] <Richard> you think that is purpose of the chem trails?
[01:08] <islander> hopefully middle of next month
[01:09] <islander> they also appear heavy whenever the sky starts clearing and always on the side the the clouds are drifting from
[01:09] <islander> must be coincidence
[01:10] <Richard> rense sight also reporting the chem trails over London & Paris
[01:10] <islander> too many major airports around
[01:10] <Richard> www.rense.com
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[01:10] <Richard> spelling is terrible tonight
[01:11] <Richard> hi jubjub, vn
[01:11] <vn> hi
[01:11] <islander> after flying for business for a few years, the way they fly the planes has chjanged and is part of the explanation, but their are days when they seen to be able to just turn the pattern on
[01:11] <Richard> pi;ots like boy racers today?
[01:12] <islander> maybe I should use the photo gear on the planes
[01:12] <jubjub963> hello
[01:12] <islander> hu jubjub annd vn
[01:12] <Richard> islander > :+)
[01:12] <islander> find out which air lines are annoying me
[01:13] <Richard> i'm thankful i don't have planes flying overhead
[01:13] <Richard> noise would drive me nuts
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[01:13] <obany> hi
[01:13] <Richard> hi obany
[01:14] <islander> its not the noise, just the lack of heat in the day because of the incessant thin layer of cloud
[01:14] <islander> reverse green house effect
[01:14] <Richard> hmmm
[01:14] <Richard> tends to strip away the atmosphere?
[01:15] <Richard> what the heck do rocket launches do then?
[01:15] <islander> I have wondered if the engines are producing a higher amount of water in the burn rather than the black we used to see years ago?
[01:16] <islander> effectively would leave more of a "cloud"
[01:16] <Richard> how many aircraft a day fly over your place?
[01:17] <islander> every plane from the states heading to alaska, and Vancouver to the Orient, and all the tripds to Hawaii
[01:17] <Richard> so a fair few
[01:18] <islander> we re about 60 miles from Vancouver and 80 to Seattle so we get their approach and takeoff paths
[01:18] <islander> and we have our local as well
[01:18] <islander> then theres a few military bases around
[01:19] <Richard> have about 1 to 2 aircraft per WEEK fly over here
[01:19] <islander> the skies have changed mainly in the last 5 years
[01:20] <islander> One pilot mentuioned that they don't want to fly in the wash of a previous plane, thtas why we may see them spread out
[01:21] <islander> avoiding turbilence, but makes a mess of the sky
[01:21] <islander> turbulence
[01:21] <Richard> aha
[01:22] <islander> the problems of the Chemtrails I'll leave for others, finding blood and other things....
[01:22] <Richard> if px wasn't coming i think we would see an increasingly dying planet from all the pollution
[01:23] <islander> but I wonder if they would fing the same thing if they checked the rail bed after a train passed
[01:23] <obany> mmm earthquake in Turkey
[01:23] <Richard> "Ecocide" is what's it called
[01:23] <Richard> saw that obany
[01:23] <Richard> in populated area?
[01:24] <obany> http://cgi.wn.com/?template=worldnews%2Findex.txt&action=search&first=0&SearchString=earthquake&language=Any+Language
[01:24] <islander> I am surprised at the attitude the States is taking on the agreement
[01:24] <islander> like pollution doesn't matter?
[01:24] <Richard> Kyoto you mean islander?
[01:24] <islander> yes
[01:25] <islander> its almost like saying that something like PX is coming and it won't make a difference
[01:25] <scooby-afk> this is what i meant.... He, G-dub the Shrub, does NOT speak for the states
[01:25] <Richard> well the last enviromental meeting in Sth Africa late last year was just an excuse for a big party
[01:25] <obany>  A powerful earthquake has shaken eastern Turkey damaging a number of buildings - but there are no immediate reports of any deaths.
[01:25] <obany> The state-run Anatolian news agency said the quake had a magnitude of 6.5 and was felt in several cities in the Tunceli region.
[01:25] <scooby-afk> he speaks for the monied oil interests
[01:25] <scooby-afk> that is all
[01:26] <Richard> 6.5 ... they ARE on the increase in strength
[01:27] <obany> ja
[01:27] <obany> yes
[01:27] <islander> sorry scoob, meant to say " the attitude theAmerican dictator is taking". Is that better?
[01:27] <obany> woosps should have said yes, instead of ja
[01:27] <obany> ja = dutch :)
[01:27] <Richard> ja is fine
[01:28] <Richard> aha
[01:28] <Richard> ja in German is yes?
[01:28] <islander> now we know, you can use it with us obany
[01:28] <obany> ja in Dutch is yes
[01:28] <obany> and for what i remember the same in German
[01:30] <Richard> anyhow how is everyone's spirits holding up considering the knowledge of the inbound px you all have?
[01:30] <Richard> we all have
[01:31] <obany> what can i say Richard what can i say
[01:31] * obany brb    
[01:31] <obany> bbl/brb
[01:31] <scooby-afk> islander: much better
[01:31] <Richard> some days are good...others not?
[01:32] <scooby-afk> richard: i walk around in a haze provided by cannabis sative
[01:32] <scooby-afk> sativa
[01:32] <scooby-afk> it helps tremendously
[01:32] <scooby-afk> : )
[01:32] <Richard> must stop listening to this emotional music   ;+)
[01:32] * scooby-afk coughs
[01:32] <islander> richard: in some ways looking forward to the possibilities, just a lot of work to get there
[01:32] <Richard> < ------ agree ....coughing
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[01:33] <scooby-afk> islander: me too
[01:33] <Richard> daunting at times
[01:33] <scooby-afk> looking forward to moving ahead
[01:33] <scooby-afk> and knowing the soul lives on makes it easier
[01:33] <Richard> that's the one to stay focused on scooby
[01:34] <Richard> so either we will make it or we won't but either way we (soul) will have
[01:34] <islander> after all the consulting work I've done, the more it looks like the world is a giant monopoly game, I don't want to play anymore
[01:34] <islander> I am looking forward to living again
[01:34] <Richard> cool islander   :+)
[01:35] <Richard> you have a place sussed out yet
[01:35] <islander> leaving options open and flexible
[01:36] <Richard> we know area we need to get to .... now need the place to hunker down
[01:36] <islander> i have a shopping list of what is required but it would be a shame to go and spend maoney on property right now
[01:36] <islander> money
[01:37] <islander> beter spent in tools and supplies
[01:37] <Richard> we are trying to find something to rent
[01:37] <islander> I was thinking the same but not many houses in safe locations, 600 ft+
[01:37] <Richard> otherwise it will be into the bush with backpacks
[01:38] <Richard> would prefer to dig a hole/trench away from bush
[01:38] <Richard> we will be on the dark side for 3 days
[01:38] <islander> I was thinking of purchase of major structural elements and roofing prior to shift, precut and rteady to assemble after
[01:39] <Richard> try an anderson Shelter
[01:39] <islander> my plan is about 1/4 the cost
[01:40] <islander> just wouldn't be allowed to build due to codes in present day
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[01:40] <islander> thats another thing I won't miss
[01:41] <CURLY> HEY, ANYBODY OUT THERE
[01:41] <islander> hi curly
[01:42] <islander> what brings you here today?
[01:43] <CURLY> HEY, SORRY BUT I'M NEW TO ALL THIS, BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE VAST NUMBER OF PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM ANXIETY DISORDERS AND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD, AND I THINK THIS MAY BE IT
[01:44] <islander> you think that PX is the cause of the disorders
[01:44] <islander> ?
[01:45] <CURLY> POSSIBLY, WE'RE "PICKING UP THE VIBES"
[01:45] <Richard> could be caused by changing magetism due to inbound
[01:45] <Richard> but take yer caps lock off
[01:45] <Richard> your shouting
[01:45] <islander> or could be that the world ain't the nice safe place it used to be
[01:46] <Richard> that too
[01:46] <CURLY> sorry, that's the way i write with my hand! but yes, i think we feel it coming
[01:46] <Richard> who's we?
[01:47] <islander> if all people hear is bad news persistantly, I would think taht that would be this most significant source of anxiety
[01:47] <CURLY> the human race. have you noticed the drastic increase in the last few years of the number of people with anxiety and depression disorders?
[01:48] <Richard> not around me i haven't personally but i know they are out there
[01:48] <islander> yeah, but I could also list a lot of manmade reasons to cause it
[01:49] <Richard> must be the circle of people i hang out with
[01:49] <scooby-afk> nite
[01:49] <islander> how many thousand laid of, plants relocated etc
[01:49] <scooby-afk> and i mean it this time
[01:49] <Richard> later scooby
[01:49] <Richard> take care
[01:49] <islander> nite scoob
[01:49] <scooby-afk> nite gize
[01:50] <CURLY> thats true
[01:50] <Richard> islander: bbc news the other day stated world unemployment highest ever in our history
[01:50] <islander> that would upset a few people
[01:50] <islander> and economies are the healthiest
[01:50] <islander> and yet record profits
[01:50] <Richard> including people who earn under $1 per day the total out of work or low paid is nearly 1 billion
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[01:51] <islander> we lost curly
[01:51] <Richard> yet here is me at age 49 able to walk into a new job
[01:52] <islander> being older has become an asset again over the yougsters
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[01:52] <Richard> we probably killed him with facts
[01:52] <islander> hi curly again
[01:52] <Richard> certainly true
[01:52] <curly> hey, got booted off
[01:53] <islander> net splits
[01:53] <Richard> message read 'connection reset by peer'
[01:53] <Richard> who's peer
[01:53] <Richard> :+)
[01:53] <islander> a lot of people coming and going from chat this weekend, not by choice
[01:54] <Richard> anyone noticing net getting slower at times?
[01:54] <islander> remnants of the sql server worm
[01:54] <Richard> aha
[01:54] <islander> tied up traffic this weekend
[01:55] <islander> started on friday night
[01:56] <Richard> so curly are you preparing for survival?
[01:56] <Richard> or still at question stage?
[01:56] <curly> just started to.  luckily i work at a military surplus store.
[01:56] <Richard> how did you discover about px?
[01:57] <curly> heard about it on art bell years ago, saw some little news about it recently, started poking around
[01:57] <Richard> surplus store ...good place to work at present
[01:58] <Richard> i assume you are in usa?
[01:58] <curly> yes
[01:58] <Richard> new zealand here
[01:58] <curly> thinking about wyoming, or south dakota
[01:58] <Richard> checked out the safe locations document
[01:58] <Richard> ignore that
[01:59] <curly> whats the real scoop?
[01:59] <Richard> no 2nd thoughts check the document out
[01:59] <Richard> real scoop? ... as in?
[01:59] <Richard> you either believe or you don't
[02:00] <curly> safe locations.  i think i read montana, n.dakota, s.dakota, wyoming, parts of pa.
[02:01] <Richard> you would know better than me being in america but check out the safe docs link at http://www.zetatalk.com
[02:01] <curly> thats where i was
[02:02] <curly> so in looking around i've senn several different dates.  any dates more likely than others?
[02:03] <vn> mid may
[02:03] <Richard> zeta's have stated 15th May/just after
[02:03] <islander> only one date here, earth stops turn on May 15
[02:03] <Richard> look at into eary June as well
[02:03] <islander> still for a week then shift
[02:03] <vn> before it stops rotating is there clear evidence it is stopping
[02:03] <Richard> yes
[02:03] <vn> I mean does it happen suddenly
[02:03] <Richard> red dist
[02:04] <Richard> 12 - 24 hours before hand
[02:04] <vn> of course earthquakes etc...but in all over world there are some effects before it for sure
[02:04] <Richard> dist = dust
[02:04] <vn> alright
[02:04] <islander> its all covered in the poleshift topic
[02:04] <Richard> once you see the dust you better run
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[02:05] <curly> any gatherings in us ?
[02:05] <obany> The Zetas will mention a precise date before as the pole shift aproaches for what i read
[02:05] <curly> u.s.
[02:05] <islander> gatherings aren't part of this
[02:05] <Richard> curly: have you checked the network page at http://www.shift2003.com
[02:06] <islander> just passing the info and research on
[02:06] <curly> no not yet
[02:06] <Richard> go there and check out areas in usa for those wanting to network
[02:06] <islander> thanks obany
[02:07] <curly> thanks
[02:07] <islander> grey matter encountered between islanders ears
[02:07] <islander> :)
[02:08] <vn-afk> does zeta explain something for the statement where they say that when if earth stops rotating all buildings will collapse and actually it's same effect if you are in the train and it stops...(feel like you fall down) and earth rotates with much higer speed
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[02:09] <Richard> what do you mean 'earth rotates with much higher speed'?
[02:10] <vn> yeah ..then the effect is more efficient
[02:10] <vn> is it 1000m/s
[02:10] <vn> we all move with that speed
[02:10] <Richard> need to read section on zetatalk for that vn
[02:11] <vn> I know richard..perhaps all stuff is there..I will get more time to read them soon..
[02:11] <curly> richard, islander, how long have you guys been following this?
[02:11] <Richard> well don't leave it too late
[02:11] <Richard> just over a year for me curly
[02:12] <islander> 2 years
[02:12] <obany> vn-afk: earthquakes
[02:12] <Richard> a good 6 months was just reading
[02:12] <Richard> its like having to relearn historu again to understand it all
[02:12] <vn> but buildings doesn't fall down ?
[02:12] <vn> wait
[02:13] <Richard> we were all taught a different history at schools/collages
[02:13] <vn> I'll paste ...this
[02:13] <Richard> vn: they do when the wind is blowing
[02:13] <vn> If the Earth did stop rotation a lot more than 90% of people would die, even if it were not completely sudden. The Earth rotates at a speed of 1100 miles per hour at the equator- that is the speed you are spinning at this moment. Suppose the Earth suddenly stopped spinning - you would continue at your original speed. An easy way to imagine this is if you are on a train. If you are sanding up when the train slows down, you will g
[02:13] <vn> go falling forward...
[02:13] <Richard> at jet stream speed
[02:14] <curly> isn't it going to slow down first?
[02:14] <obany> vn: has been explained
[02:14] <Richard> yes but spin slowing down is a slow process .... not a sudden stop
[02:14] <Richard> the brakes are on
[02:15] <vn> oki
[02:15] <islander> the slowdown is gradual and covered here :http://zetatalk.com/poleshft/p20.htm
[02:15] <vn> thanks
[02:15] <vn> here it was stated http://armageddononline.tripod.com/planetx.htm
[02:16] <curly> i'd bet that we'll all get very nauseous
[02:16] <vn> yep..
[02:16] <vn> I think an individual must be very strong ..physically in good health maybe
[02:16] <vn> to survive
[02:16] <Richard> will be something new for us all
[02:16] <vn> aswell as good position while shift and aftertime
[02:17] <Richard> but during shift maybe you will feel deja vu
[02:17] <Richard> from previous incarnations of riding through a previous shift
[02:17] <vn> yeah...those moments are going to be unforgettable and unexplained feelings on you
[02:17] <curly> i think physical effects may be very pronounced
[02:18] <Richard> also the mental effect
[02:18] <Richard> buy earplugs
[02:18] <Richard> ones used on construction sites
[02:19] <islander> time to go, catch you later
[02:20] <curly> good night, thank you
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[02:20] <Richard> later
[02:20] <Richard> oops
[02:21] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo09u.htm
[02:21] <vn> another question .. do we keep orbiting the sun with no delays or boosts ? no change on that?
[02:22] <Richard> keep orbiting sun but with less atmosphere
[02:22] <Richard> due to a portion of it being stripped away
[02:22] <Richard> so lots of low cloud and drissle
[02:23] <obany> The day of rotation stoppage is also not a surprise, as clocks and watches will be increasingly poky, and rotation takes a day to stop.
[02:23] <Richard> so maybe not see the sun for a long time
[02:23] <curly> is it possible that some or all survivors will die of suffocation?
[02:23] <obany> curly: moment
[02:24] <Richard> obany is finding the link
[02:25] <curly> how much is "a portion"?
[02:25] <Richard> how old are you curly
[02:25] <vn> so those on opposite side of planet x after it stopped rotating won't see it on the sky
[02:26] <curly> 28
[02:26] <Richard> i think (from memeory) about half
[02:26] <Richard> but again its covered on zetatalk site
[02:26] <Richard> read 'Poleshift' section
[02:27] <obany> you will be able to breath ... has been explained ...
[02:27] <Richard> vn: on this side I guess sky will be lite up from fires
[02:28] <Richard> curly: you married?
[02:28] <vn> is there any estimate,what locations are the most safe
[02:28] <Richard> kids?
[02:28] <vn> I know locations sections
[02:28] <curly> married, no kids not having any!
[02:29] <Richard> haven't read safe locations for usa
[02:29] <obany> i am only searching for it so http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p160.htm
[02:29] <vn> but I mean where at are the people after the shift that survived,or are they all around randomly
[02:29] <Richard> but at least 100 miles inland
[02:29] <Richard> away from fault lines
[02:29] <obany> ZetaTalk: Atmosphere Loss
[02:29] <obany> Note: written during the August 10, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
[02:29] <obany> For a time after the shift, the clouds will be lower, as the atmosphere will be ripped away. This will if anything create a sense of being on a higher elevation, less air pressure, but you will be so preoccupied that you won't notice. The oxygen availability will also not create any more problems than the average city presents to you, due to pollution. Soon, within years, less than a decade, the oxygen will be replenished due to
[02:29] <obany> an kelp and the like. As we have stated, if you are not utterly out in the open, in a semi-enclosed environment, during the shift, you will not suffocate.
[02:29] <obany> All rights reserved: ZetaTalk@ZetaTalk.com
[02:29] <Richard> volcanoes that have exploded in last 10,000 years
[02:30] <Richard> vn: I would expect to find lone survivors and odd groups together
[02:31] <vn> great lakes are apparently quite safe location ?
[02:31] <Richard> those groups would be per chance and those who have organised
[02:32] <curly> it's a strange idea to grasp: all we will have is each other and the land
[02:32] <Richard> its gonna be the great unknown for many curly
[02:32] <vn> I think if most of the people are starting to get aware it and px actually exists in the sky as big as moon...people in USA might think great lakes is a good place to go..when they here "mountains,100miles inland" ...people are rushing to great lakes
[02:32] <vn> hear
[02:33] <curly> i'd bet that alot of survivors will commit suicide
[02:33] <Richard> more than likely curly
[02:33] <Richard> again that is covered on the zetatalk site
[02:33] <Richard> can you remember which section obany?
[02:34] <vn> being in a submarine ain't bad idea is it ?
[02:34] <curly> no more structure, no more system, no more job, no more money...........
[02:34] <Richard> awesome
[02:34] <Richard> you will have to barter
[02:34] <Richard> so think of what will be important things to barter with
[02:34] <Richard> seeds
[02:34] <curly> maybe i'm sick but i'm kinda looking forward to it.  it's time to clean the slate.
[02:34] <obany> The 90% die-off that we have predicted, as we have stated, will not occur simply because of the shift. Most will die because of depression, failure to thrive, sitting down with a slight injury and not eating or drinking, as occurs after all calamities. Mankind is used to limited calamities, where a single city suffers a quake, or a single family a devastating fire. In come the Red Cross, the rescue from neighboring towns, the as
[02:34] <obany> ance from neighbors. Global calamities are such that no area is prepared to go forth and rescue, and all sit and wait to be rescued. Thus, all sit and wait without rescue.
[02:34] <Richard> etc
[02:35] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/Xtime/x24.htm
[02:35] <Richard> curly: many feel just like you in thoughts as regards 'wiping the slate clean' and starting again
[02:36] <Richard> this time tho' we need to get it right
[02:36] <curly> on that note, i gotta get some sleep.  it's been good talking, i'll be back.  good night.
[02:36] <Richard> we need to learn from all the crap we have put ourselves thro'
[02:36] <Richard> later curly
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[02:36] <obany> sigh i wanted to ask him the meaning of sleep ??? :P
[02:37] <Richard> vn & obany I need to retire for the night as well
[02:37] <Richard> stay strong
[02:37] <vn> okay...good nite
[02:37] <obany> okay okay ... almost tuesday over ther .. :)
[02:37] <obany> bye nite
[02:37] <obany> take care
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[02:38] <vn> me goez around ->
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[04:01] * obany brb/bbl tv :)
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[05:33] <tex-away> !down
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[05:33] <obany> hi
[05:33] <tex-away> hi obany
[05:34] <tex-away> how are you today
[05:34] <obany> fine fine .. but how can you talk to me, you are not here :{
[05:34] <obany> :P
[05:34] <tex-away> magic
[05:34] <obany> ;P
[05:35] <tex-away> you left feeling poorly yesterday... are you feeling better
[05:37] <tex-away> I also noticed you had a TT-inc meeting yesterday.. how did that go?
[05:38] <obany> yes, feel better now
[05:39] <obany> have a bit of cold i think ... but that's because of the weather i think
[05:40] <obany> and the inc meeeting was fine
[05:41] * tex-away have a great day! I must go to work now
[05:43] <obany> k
[05:47] * obany brb going to wash my face, and shave it ...
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[07:05] <Danvaldan> hi all
[07:05] <Danvaldan> anyone awake here?
[07:06] <Danvaldan> ta-ta
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[07:29] <Dsarith> Good Morning QV and All
[07:29] <QueenVee> morning Dsarith
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[07:32] <QueenVee> morning Cruithne
[07:32] <Cruithne> morning
[07:33] <QueenVee> Cruinthne: remind me where you're located...
[07:33] <Cruithne> new york city
[07:33] <Cruithne> manhattan
[07:33] <QueenVee> ah yes
[07:34] <Dsarith> Manhattan is a bad place to be :-)
[07:34] <Dsarith> for PS
[07:34] <QueenVee> what's the weather like in NYC today?
[07:34] <QueenVee> yeah, probably the worst place on earth to be
[07:34] <Cruithne> 12 degrees
[07:34] <Cruithne> w i n d y
[07:35] <Cruithne> i stay under blankets today
[07:35] <QueenVee> it'z zero degrees farenheit here today, very cold
[07:36] <QueenVee> the hound and i did not frolick in the snow as long this morning....
[07:36] <Cruithne> i hear that
[07:37] <Cruithne> where r u
[07:37] <Cruithne> montreal?
[07:37] <QueenVee> but it was extremely picturesque out in the woods today; the birds were out in full force; saw 3 cardinals, one woodpecker, chicadees, junkos, a blue jay...
[07:37] <QueenVee> i'm in southwestern ontario
[07:38] <QueenVee> in london ontario right now, i live in an apartment building complex that's surrouned by a large wooded area and beyond that farmer's fields; the wooded area has a stream; it's like being in the country out there
[07:38] <QueenVee> best of both worlds
[07:38] <Cruithne> i went to montreal once
[07:39] <QueenVee> however, i will be on my cousin's farm out in the country near here at the time of the shift
[07:39] <Cruithne> yes i like outdoors , nature
[07:39] <QueenVee> montreal is great; until recently, i lived in toronto, lived there for 20 years
[07:40] <QueenVee> i spent a lot of time in Montreal, had a relationship with someone there for two years; he came to Toronto once a month, i went to Montreal once a month; we eventually broke up because neither of us would move to the other's city....
[07:40] <Cruithne> a area called le vale
[07:42] <QueenVee> what do you do for a living in NY?
[07:42] <Cruithne> it's illegal so i won't say
[07:43] <QueenVee> lol
[07:43] <QueenVee> bookie, huh?
[07:44] <Dsarith> Bank Robber :-)
[07:44] <Cruithne> no books for me
[07:45] <QueenVee> hooker
[07:45] <QueenVee> pimp
[07:45] <QueenVee> drug dealer
[07:45] <QueenVee> insider trader
[07:45] <QueenVee> hehe
[07:46] <QueenVee> the list of illegal occupations in NYC is probably endless
[07:46] <Dsarith> Pimp is good
[07:46] <Dsarith> Embezzler
[07:47] <QueenVee> loan shark
[07:47] <QueenVee> mobster
[07:47] <Dsarith> Hit Man
[07:47] <Dsarith> Has to be hit man
[07:47] <QueenVee> yeah, that's it, Cruithne is a GoodFella
[07:47] <Dsarith> Yip
[07:47] <Cruithne> john gotti died last year i think he met the god father
[07:47] <Cruithne> lol
[07:48] <Dsarith> lol
[07:48] <QueenVee> hehe
[07:48] <Dsarith> Professional Hacker
[07:49] <Dsarith> He caused the net split
[07:49] <Dsarith> And now you know the... rest of the story... Good Day
[07:50] <Cruithne> do you make money from this irc channel
[07:50] <QueenVee> ha!
[07:50] <QueenVee> i wish
[07:50] <QueenVee> how would we do that?
[07:50] <Dsarith> No, but if you get people to buy into your safe place and loan you money... you can make lots of money. QV likes when you promote ideas like this.
[07:51] <QueenVee> Dsarith: you are so bad
[07:51] <Dsarith> :-)
[07:52] <Cruithne> i would if there was guarantee & since there's no place safe from quakes...
[07:52] <QueenVee> like nancy says, if you don't like it, you can leave and get your money gack at the door
[07:52] <QueenVee> gack=back
[07:53] <QueenVee> Dsarith: get aload of this email question i got today:
[07:53] <QueenVee> "Will the Zeta Power Packs have 220 as well as 110 sockets?"
[07:53] <Dsarith> I am so sure
[07:54] <Dsarith> Send pack that they seem to have 320... Let him/her figure that one out
[07:54] <Dsarith> pack=back :-)
[07:55] <QueenVee> Cruithne: there are a few people out there trying to make a buck off PlanetX and the Poleshift -- such as Mark Hazelwood and James McCanney -- but no one associated with nancy and zetatalk are selling anything....
[07:55] <QueenVee> Dsarith: that would be mean.... i like it....
[07:55] <Dsarith> lol
[07:55] <Cruithne> speaking of sockets; http://members.aol.com/qbrowser/myhomepage/plug.gif
[07:55] <QueenVee> ha, that's good
[07:56] <Dsarith> Contrar QV: I am selling Planet X rings. Send me all your money and I will give you one that glows redder as planet X approaches.
[07:56] <Dsarith> I will split the income with you QV
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[07:57] <QueenVee> the woman who asked about the sockets, also asked this:
[07:57] <QueenVee> "Would Wednesday evenings be good for Shortwave/Hams before and after the Shift to talk to each other?"
[07:57] <QueenVee> where do these people come from?
[07:58] <QueenVee> i should just write back and say, no, Tuesdays would be better
[07:58] <Dsarith> From under rocks and asylums
[07:58] <Dsarith> lol
[07:58] <Dsarith> Yes do that
[07:58] <Dsarith> lol
[07:58] <QueenVee> i'd love to put together a list of stupid zetatalk questions
[07:58] <QueenVee> could be quite entertaining
[07:59] <Dsarith> And it would work even better if you stand on your head and wrap your arm around your back
[07:59] <QueenVee> and don't forget the tinfoil hat
[07:59] <Dsarith> Yep
[07:59] <QueenVee> okay, i can't fool around here anymore, got to get some work done
[07:59] <Dsarith> I think you should post a FAQ for stupid questions
[07:59] <QueenVee> i'll see you guys later
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[07:59] <Dsarith> cya in a bit
[08:00] <vn-afk> when the earthquake page will be updated
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[08:01] <Dsarith> Hello Prichard
[08:01] <prichard> hi
[08:01] <Dsarith> She is away vn
[08:01] <vn-afk> all_messages_sh or something doesn't work and shift2003.com earthquake link isn't updated for couple days
[08:01] <prichard> who?
[08:01] <Dsarith> Ok, I will let her know when she gets around
[08:01] <Dsarith> WV
[08:01] <Dsarith> QV
[08:01] <vn-afk> ok thanks...
[08:01] <Dsarith> NP
[08:01] <prichard> OK
[08:01] <vn-afk> anyone know any other earthquake links ?
[08:02] <Cruithne> equake reports r here; http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/
[08:02] <vn-afk> cool thanks
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[08:08] <vn-afk> inspectors report live at news channels
[08:08] <vn-afk> 6500 bombs unexplained
[08:08] <vn-afk> mustard gas found
[08:09] <vn-afk> that's all I guess
[08:09] <Dsarith> Really hmmmm
[08:15] <Cruithne> i think i better stock up on dates from iraq
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[08:39] <Dsarith> Herro yggd
[08:39] <Dsarith> Hello Shaman
[08:39] <Shaman464> hi
[08:40] <Dsarith> How are you doing today Shaman
[08:40] <Shaman464> pretty bad
[08:40] <Shaman464> u
[08:41] <Dsarith> Ok... Why is your day pretty bad
[08:41] <Shaman464> I have the stomach flu, ive lost 15 pds in the past 3 days
[08:42] <Dsarith> I am so sorry Shaman
[08:42] <Shaman464> its ok
[08:42] <Dsarith> The flu sucks big tim
[08:43] <Shaman464> yea
[08:43] <Dsarith> Make sure you force yourself to eat and drink, especially drink
[08:43] <Dsarith> Water, not alchohol :-)
[08:44] <Shaman464> to young for alochohol
[08:44] <Cruithne> that means your ph balance is acid go akaline
[08:44] <Dsarith> Good for you
[08:44] <Shaman464> lol, way to be young
[08:44] <Shaman464> only 5 years to go
[08:45] <Shaman464> i hate day-time tv
[08:47] <Dsarith> Do you have dish or cable
[08:48] <Shaman464> digital cable
[08:48] <Dsarith> Well that is a little better than regular TV, granted not much :-)
[08:48] <Shaman464> which is nice because it comes with cable internet
[08:48] <Cruithne> gold is over 370 today
[08:49] <Dsarith> Buy gold!
[08:49] <Cruithne> i did
[08:49] <Dsarith> Yep that is cool Shaman
[08:49] <Dsarith> Where do you live Shaman
[08:49] <Shaman464> Michigan
[08:49] <Dsarith> I need to buy some too
[08:49] <Dsarith> Sick and Cold... That really sucks
[08:50] <Shaman464> better then sick and hot
[08:50] <Shaman464> atleast im not missing nice weather
[08:50] <Dsarith> True :-)
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[08:52] <Shaman464> today instead of school i get to try to find a place to transfer my site
[08:54] <Dsarith> Thats no fun
[08:54] <Shaman464> its better then weight lifting class =)
[08:55] <Dsarith> Yip
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[08:55] <Dsarith> Off season sucked
[09:00] <Shaman464> well i g2g off to the doctors
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[09:03] <Dsarith> Hello Creaton
[09:03] <creaton> hello
[09:03] <Dsarith> You have been here before...Yes?
[09:04] <Dsarith> Its quiet today
[09:05] <creaton> ya
[09:05] <creaton> probably around 2 weeks
[09:06] <Dsarith> Cool
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[10:07] <QueenVee> hi tied
[10:07] <tied2> hello
[10:09] <tied2> anything new?
[10:10] * obaway is but going to eat something now ...
[10:13] <QueenVee> well, solomon islands have been hit yet again....
[10:13] <QueenVee> cyclone Beni
[10:13] <obaway> :/
[10:13] <tied2> thats a unstable part of the world huh?
[10:13] <obaway> and there has been a earthquake in Turkey
[10:13] <QueenVee> what's the intensity, obany
[10:14] <obaway> 6.5 for what i read
[10:14] <obaway> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/2697183.stm
[10:14] <obaway> posted a link and a small part of the article to tt-watch
[10:15] <QueenVee> oy
[10:15] <QueenVee> i gotta catch up
[10:16] <obaway> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2003/1/27/latest/9898Strongqua&sec=latest some more info
[10:16] <obaway> one person dead
[10:16] <obaway> brb food now.. etc... will ret later
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[10:32] <QueenVee> hello humvee
[10:32] <humvee> hello queenvee
[10:32] <humvee> market slip sliding away it look like
[10:32] <QueenVee> yeah?
[10:33] <tied2> hello humvee
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[10:33] <humvee> down 80 = dow so below 8000
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[10:33] <QueenVee> humvee: have you got an article link?
[10:34] <humvee> is all over the radio - investors dont like war much i think and are already shaken
[10:34] <QueenVee> ok
[10:40] <humvee> qeuun link to realtime market   =   http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/briefing/StockTicker.asp
[10:41] <humvee> shows more drop now -137
[10:41] <QueenVee> thanks hum
[10:41] <humvee> np
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[10:44] <humvee> off 2 work - bye 4 now
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[11:03] <Danvaldan> hi all
[11:04] <Danvaldan> whats with the falling chinks of ice?
[11:04] <Danvaldan> chunks
[11:04] <QueenVee> hey dan
[11:04] <QueenVee> dunno, weird huh?
[11:04] <Danvaldan> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=chunk+of+ice
[11:04] <Danvaldan> more of them
[11:05] <Danvaldan> one of these has a pic of the ball - looks like a duck head?
[11:05] <QueenVee> christ
[11:05] <QueenVee> bizarre
[11:05] <QueenVee> thanks for that
[11:05] <Danvaldan> yeah its like a rask of ice chunks
[11:05] <Danvaldan> rash
[11:06] <Danvaldan> between this and the 'explosion sounds'
[11:07] <Danvaldan> the ZT chat was pretty full this time I thought
[11:07] <Danvaldan> alot of content
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[11:07] <QueenVee> yessiree
[11:07] <QueenVee> crum, i'm freezing
[11:08] <Danvaldan> heh - cold there? was zero w/windchill this morn -
[11:08] <Danvaldan> here
[11:08] <QueenVee> i think i'm gonna go have a hot bath to warm up
[11:08] <Danvaldan> ok check ya - bye
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[11:09] <monk> hi
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[11:10] <RNTHOMAS> Hey monk, how goes it?
[11:10] <monk> its doing great
[11:10] <monk> how are you
[11:10] <RNTHOMAS> Not too bad...
[11:11] <monk> whats going on
[11:11] <RNTHOMAS> Just taking a little break from work...
[11:11] <monk> anything new happened?
[11:11] <RNTHOMAS> I don't know... I've been off here for a few days, you probably know more then I do.
[11:11] <monk> I been off here for a month
[11:11] <RNTHOMAS> It's as easy as hitting the shift2003 website.
[11:12] <monk> yea
[11:12] <RNTHOMAS> Oh, I see... Then I guess there has been a few 'developments' then.
[11:12] <monk> tonights coasttocoast show is gonna be alright
[11:12] <RNTHOMAS> Dunno, what's happening there?
[11:13] <monk> this guy seen ufos since he was 5 and he took video and pics of them and he has scars and under a black light you can see the implants
[11:15] <RNTHOMAS> Sounds coowel...
[11:16] <monk> I wonder what hes gonna talk about
[11:18] <RNTHOMAS> Well I'll be listening to it..
[11:22] <RNTHOMAS> Can you switch over to #Earthchanges, then I can fill you in on what I've been seeing...  Dunno if this is the place for me to talk about it.
[11:23] <monk> ok
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[11:24] <Dsarith> Hiya Tex
[11:24] <tex-at-work> hi Dsarith
[11:24] <monk> Hi tex
[11:25] <tex-at-work> hi monk.. long time no see
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[11:25] <tex-at-work> how are you
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[11:25] <Dsarith> Good and you?
[11:26] <tex-at-work> I'm good getting a little windy here
[11:27] <tex-at-work> brb.... more coffee
[11:30] <Dsarith> Yep it suppose to pick up through tomorrow, but be a little warmer
[11:31] <monk> Im doing great
[11:42] <tex-at-work> it's going to be in the 70's here
[11:42] <Dsarith> 60's here
[11:42] <Dsarith> :-)
[11:42] <Dsarith> Still good weather :-)
[11:43] <tex-at-work> indeed
[11:43] <Dsarith> And we are both going to be stuck at work
[11:45] <tex-at-work> if it gets too nice i may be forced to go outside and work from the laptop and cell phone
[11:45] <Dsarith> Good idea
[11:45] <Dsarith> Do you golf
[11:45] <tex-at-work> i have been banned from golf
[11:46] <tex-at-work> so now i just drive the cart and fix the drinks
[11:50] <Dsarith> lol
[11:50] <Dsarith> I am sorry Tex
[11:51] <tex-at-work> I have managed to live thru it... even tho emotionaly scared
[11:51] <Dsarith> lol
[11:51] <tex-at-work> it's the others that died
[11:52] <Dsarith> It just makes it more challenging for other players
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[12:19] <islander> hi all
[12:19] <tex-at-work> hi islander
[12:20] <islander> quiet day?
[12:21] <tex-at-work> yes
[12:30] <islander> catch you later
[12:30] <tex-at-work> ok
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[12:39] <GalacticExplorer> Hi
[12:39] <GalacticExplorer> bye
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[12:57] <Dsarith> WB QV
[12:57] <QueenVee> hello
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[12:58] <Dsarith> Nothing happening in this channel
[12:58] <Dsarith> Very quiet
[12:58] <Dsarith> Hi Tied
[12:58] <QueenVee> mmm
[12:59] <tied2> hello
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[13:03] <Dsarith> WB Obany
[13:03] <Dsarith> Hiya Karmie
[13:03] <karmie> hi dsarith and everyone
[13:08] <QueenVee> hi karmy
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[13:19] <RNTHOMAS> Hey guys...
[13:19] <QueenVee> hey
[13:19] <RNTHOMAS> Dsarith = I see why you're having problems with the Jan 18 pics, they look terrible on my home machine...
[13:20] <RNTHOMAS> Here at work, Px is very visible on my monitors, and moving in a perfect straight line, even tho
[13:20] <RNTHOMAS> Naji moved the camera in a triangular pattern....
[13:22] <RNTHOMAS> Anyways, I dunno what that
[13:22] <RNTHOMAS> 'object is' at the ZT coordinates, but there does appear to be something there...
[13:22] <obany> are you talking about the 18 or the 25th pictures?
[13:22] <RNTHOMAS> I am talking about the 18th...
[13:23] <obany> k
[13:23] <RNTHOMAS> I will take a look at the 35th images as well...
[13:23] <obany> wow.... the 35th of Jan ... :P guess you have different calender then we have :)
[13:23] <RNTHOMAS> 25th I mean lol!
[13:24] <RNTHOMAS> I suspect that Steve or Nancy will look at em again... Just talked to Steve about an hour ago...
[13:24] <obany> ok
[13:25] <RNTHOMAS> The Dec 18th, frames 1 - 2 and 3 (before the moon really washed it out) showed an object moving in a straight line...
[13:26] <RNTHOMAS> But I am a little confused as to why they only show up as smudgy dots, as opposed to thick lines...
[13:27] <RNTHOMAS> If it's a 20 minute exposure...  I am wondering how a CCD camera works...  If it's like a Photographic plate, we should see a line...
[13:29] <obany> http://directory.google.com/Top/Science/Astronomy/Amateur/Astrophotography_and_CCD_Imaging/?tc=1
[13:31] <RNTHOMAS> Thanks OB, I'm reading...
[13:34] <RNTHOMAS> Wow - I like the pics there....  Coowel...  http://www.astropix.com/HTML/I_ASTROP/I06/I0602/I0602.HTM
[13:40] <Dsarith> Yes they are terrible RNT :-)
[13:48] <RNTHOMAS> obany - That link is more for Photography as opposed to CCD imaging...  But I liked the pics there, very coowel...
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[13:50] <RNTHOMAS> So QV, what's in the news today?
[13:51] <QueenVee> RN: well, i just posted some new stuff on the site....
[13:51] <QueenVee> Solomon Islands hit again, this time by a cyclone
[13:51] <QueenVee> floods, earthquakes, ice blocks falling from the sky, more train derailments....
[13:52] <RNTHOMAS> ice blocks... Ok, I'll head over and check that out... All in all, sounds like a nice quiet day out there today! lol
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[13:53] <West_coast> hello
[13:53] <Dsarith> Hiya WC
[13:53] <West_coast> hiya
[13:53] <QueenVee> hi wc
[13:53] <West_coast> hi QV
[13:54] <West_coast> what's shakin'
[13:54] <Dsarith> Turkey I think today
[13:54] <West_coast> :)  saw that
[13:54] <QueenVee> yep, turky
[13:54] <QueenVee> solomon islands hit by cyclone
[13:54] <West_coast> again, those poor people
[13:55] <QueenVee> yep
[13:55] <West_coast> I'm waiting for the BIG ONE (quake) to hit the west coast
[13:56] <West_coast> sitting on a fault line is not a good place to be
[13:56] <QueenVee> you're sitting on a fault line?
[13:57] <West_coast> yes
[13:57] <QueenVee> oy
[13:57] <West_coast> figuratively speaking, of course
[14:00] <West_coast> QV: that was an enlightening observation you made last night...your analogy to STO...striving to be a musician versus being accepted as one
[14:01] <QueenVee> yeah, a good analogy
[14:01] <West_coast> :)
[14:01] <QueenVee> i am amused by how many people think it is merely a matter of choice, or of proclaiming oneself "STO"....
[14:02] <West_coast> and forgetting the matter of past incarnations
[14:02] <QueenVee> yes, but even if you don't take that into account.....
[14:03] <West_coast> true
[14:03] <QueenVee> it's like someone going around saying "i'm a good person".....
[14:03] <West_coast> the proof is in the pudding...as they say
[14:03] <QueenVee> as nancy says, those who go around proclaiming themselves STO usually arent
[14:04] <West_coast> so how are you doing?
[14:04] <QueenVee> í've had a very busy day, and i'm feeling very tired
[14:04] <QueenVee> but i now have to take the hound out for his romp....
[14:04] <West_coast> are you pushing yourself too hard?
[14:05] <QueenVee> yeah, hard to juggle everything sometimes
[14:05] <West_coast> how is the hound?
[14:05] <QueenVee> he's great, getting more settled in here everyday
[14:05] <West_coast> no more raccoon encounters, I hope
[14:05] <QueenVee> still  needs a lot of training out in the field, but he has dramatically improved
[14:06] <QueenVee> i was spoiled with my previous dog, who i trained in about three days
[14:06] <QueenVee> hounds are more stubborn and independent
[14:07] <West_coast> I have a couple of labs, laid-back and lazy, I think
[14:07] <West_coast> like to play
[14:07] <QueenVee> well, this guy's like a split personality -- one kind of dog in the house, a completely different one outside
[14:07] <West_coast> I think he will be a comfort in the days to come
[14:07] <QueenVee> very quiet, laid back, and docile in the house; a real cuddle muffin....
[14:07] <QueenVee> and the minute he steps outside he becomes "Super Hound"
[14:08] <West_coast> must be in his blood... a hunter
[14:08] <West_coast> aims to please, too
[14:08] <QueenVee> but it's amazing how the relationship between him and the cat has developed
[14:09] <QueenVee> he's gone from trying to kill and eat the cat the first day he arrived, to being dominated by the cat
[14:09] <West_coast> does that mean the cat is smarter?
[14:09] <QueenVee> he now understands that the cat is a member of our pack, and has a higher position than him
[14:09] <QueenVee> no, it's the result of my teaching him that
[14:09] <West_coast> just kidding
[14:09] <QueenVee> so he knows there's a protective boundary around the cat he's not supposed to cross
[14:10] <QueenVee> and the cat is being incredibly cocky about it, loves to tease the dog
[14:10] <QueenVee> but they're becoming buds too
[14:10] <West_coast> he sounds like a pretty smart dog, and playful, to boot
[14:10] <QueenVee> last night was the very first night he didn't sleep in the bed with me all night
[14:11] <QueenVee> when i got up during the night, he and the cat were both asleep on the couch in the living room
[14:11] <West_coast> :)
[14:11] <West_coast> I bet that made you feel good
[14:11] <QueenVee> yeah
[14:11] <QueenVee> :-
[14:11] <QueenVee> :-)
[14:12] <West_coast> I went to my safe site this weekend...LONG drive
[14:12] <QueenVee> are you doing some preparation there? how many hours away?
[14:13] <West_coast> about 5 hours away..one way....couldn't get all the way in...snow
[14:13] <West_coast> so I hiked in..ugh...not in the shape I used to be
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[14:14] <West_coast> the snow is melting, though, so I am planning next trip to do some site prep
[14:14] <QueenVee> i hear ya, i've been trudging through deep snow too, and i'm quickly winded
[14:14] <QueenVee> hello Druithne
[14:14] <QueenVee> Cruithne, i mean
[14:14] <Cruithne> hi
[14:15] <QueenVee> here's a picture of what we may be facing in the aftertime: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2691495.stm
[14:15] <Cruithne> just saw lord of rings...didn't like it
[14:16] <QueenVee> The Two Towers?
[14:16] <Cruithne> yes
[14:16] <QueenVee> did you see the first installment?
[14:16] <Cruithne> yes
[14:16] <QueenVee> and did you like that one?
[14:16] <Cruithne> better than this 1
[14:17] <QueenVee> mmmm
[14:17] <Cruithne> but will not see the last 1
[14:17] <Cruithne> due to ple shift
[14:17] <Cruithne> pole shift
[14:19] <QueenVee> yes, indeed
[14:20] <West_coast> hmmm...alternative food...hadn't thought about that aspect
[14:20] <QueenVee> wouldn't want to be living anywhere near a zoo
[14:21] <West_coast> I have two bengal tigers living near me
[14:21] <QueenVee> oy
[14:21] <West_coast> at a private residence in big cages
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[14:22] <West_coast> bye, bye
[14:22] <West_coast> hi crithne
[14:22] <West_coast> cruithne
[14:23] <Cruithne> hi West_coast
[14:23] <Cruithne> is the surf up
[14:23] <West_coast> :)
[14:23] <West_coast> cruithne: where in the world are you?
[14:24] <Cruithne> East_coast
[14:24] <Cruithne> :)
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[14:24] <doktor> Hi!
[14:24] <West_coast> hi
[14:24] <QueenVee> hello dokotor -- what brings you to this room?
[14:25] <doktor> just read the ZetaTalk site
[14:25] <doktor> i heard that it is not true... what do you say?
[14:26] <QueenVee> doktor: this is what you read as you enter this room:
[14:26] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[14:26] <QueenVee> so the answer to your question is: FIGURE IT OUT
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[14:27] <West_coast> doktor: have you been to www.shift2003 website?
[14:27] <doktor> ok i know that you are serious :) is the closing planet visible now?
[14:27] <Mugada> morning all
[14:27] <doktor> WestCoast: no
[14:28] <QueenVee> doktor: all of your questions are answered on the www.zetatalk.com site
[14:28] <QueenVee> hi mugada
[14:28] <Mugada> hi
[14:28] <doktor> Queen: ok, but it is a bit disorganized...
[14:29] <West_coast> doktor: ZT says look to earth changes for confirmation of PX..check out the news articles on shift2003
[14:29] <doktor> thanks
[14:30] <Mugada> brb
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[14:32] <Ogmios> hi
[14:32] <West_coast> hi
[14:32] <West_coast> how is everything in Finlandia?
[14:33] <doktor> Do you know anything about the red light belt over africa?
[14:33] <Ogmios> weather is colder now. t varies a lot
[14:33] <Ogmios> it
[14:33] <QueenVee> no, do you have a link for us?
[14:33] <Ogmios> not same weather 2 days in row
[14:34] <doktor> i only saw that on a hungarian site, so i think it wont help
[14:34] <doktor> it is seen from the space...
[14:34] <doktor> from the columbia spaceship or what it is called
[14:35] <West_coast> ogmios: we are having record high temps for Jan. in the Pacific NW
[14:35] <doktor> noone knows what it is
[14:35] <Ogmios> http://www.fmi.fi/en/index.html
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[14:36] <Ogmios> -5c to -26c
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[14:37] <QueenVee> well, i've procrastinated long enough, and have to take the hound out now
[14:37] <QueenVee> be back later
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[14:38] <West_coast> hi karmie
[14:38] <karmie1> hi west - how are you today?
[14:38] <West_coast> I am fine, thanks
[14:39] <West_coast> is karmie1 the same person as karmie?
[14:39] <karmie1> yep - got disconnected and had to change names
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[14:40] <karmie1> where are Prince Edward Islands?
[14:40] <West_coast> not sure, myself..sounds familiar though
[14:40] <karmie1> Red Puma has an earthquake there today - a 6.2
[14:41] <West_coast> karmie: are you tracking all the earth changes in the news?
[14:42] <karmie1> off and on - usually watch the earthquake sites
[14:42] * obany brb
[14:43] <karmie1> Prince Edward Islands - Canada near Nova Scotia
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[14:45] <Red> No... PEIsland is the Islande are S&W of south Africa I think
[14:45] <Red> see the map at http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/current/world.html
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[14:45] <Red> oops S&E of aAfrica...
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[14:46] <karmie1> red - now I am confused
[14:47] <Red> lol sorry... PEI is Canada... but PE Islands are elsewhere... I have never heard of them either
[14:47] <karmie1> red - so where is this?  http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpuma_ami_list.html
[14:49] <Red> Looks like Red Puma is another reporting site... that last entry is the OE Islands  Not Canada but the others
[14:50] <Red> ack not OE but PE islands
[14:50] <Red> typing is easy... reading is a bit of a trick tho ;)
[14:50] <karmie1> red - thanks for figuring it out
[14:51] <Red> you are most welcome
[14:51] <karmie1> lolol----anyway, they had an earthquake
[14:52] <Red> yeah... several aftershocks in Turkey it seems  nasty
[14:53] <West_coast> see you folks later...
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[14:53] <karmie1> bye west
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[14:58] <RedzZzz> bbl o/~
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[15:04] <moocow`> ok listen guys
[15:04] <moocow`> I have some highly classified information
[15:04] <Ogmios> hi
[15:04] <moocow`> I work for the department of defence
[15:05] <moocow`> and the government has been preparing for the pole shift for some time
[15:05] <moocow`> our satellites have recently been equipped with newly implemented hyper-sensitive arrays straight from Tajikistan
[15:05] <Tonee> General Smith?
[15:05] <moocow`> yes Colonel?
[15:05] <Tonee> i read about you
[15:06] <moocow`> this is a Raelian sect, yes?
[15:06] <Tonee> i'm glad you got my memo
[15:06] <Ogmios> hmmmmmm
[15:06] <obany> no we ain't a raelian sect
[15:06] <moocow`> its good other people are finally concerned about this as well
[15:07] <Ogmios> ans why should i belive you what you say moocow
[15:07] <moocow`> whois me
[15:07] <moocow`> I am also a charter member of another string-theory aligned sect
[15:07] <moocow`> called pinkbunnies
[15:07] <moocow`> we discuss the hyperextention of quantum and relativity theories
[15:07] <moocow`> into that of string theory
[15:08] <moocow`> and string theory is the foundation upon which this May poleshift was based
[15:10] <moocow`> Now, listen
[15:10] <moocow`> we're putting a petition together
[15:10] <moocow`> the government does not feel it has popular support enough in order to justify taking serious action regarding the pole shift
[15:10] <moocow`> time, of course, is of the essence
[15:10] <Ogmios> what goverment.. you from the us?
[15:10] <moocow`> yes
[15:11] <obany> and why should we believe you ?
[15:11] <moocow`> believe me or not, you will see action taken if enough people send emails to this address discussing the necessity for action
[15:11] <moocow`> I base my thoughts on a Roussean principle
[15:12] <moocow`> that the collective will of all overrides the will of principle
[15:12] <Ogmios> believe me moocow i see so many unstable ppl here in this channel everyday ;)
[15:12] <moocow`> and right now, the truths which we know and can hold as sacrosanct
[15:12] <moocow`> are considered "lunacy"
[15:12] <moocow`> when in fact *they* are the ones who need fine tuning
[15:16] <moocow`> please
[15:16] <moocow`> put this email address in your topic
[15:16] <moocow`> joelleviton_8@hotmail.com
[15:16] <moocow`> the more emails, the better
[15:16] <moocow`> just very briefly summarize your cause
[15:16] <moocow`> we're lookiing to get 10,000 emails in tonight
[15:16] <moocow`> to make a difference
[15:16] <moocow`> Thank you, and may God be with you all
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[15:17] <Tonee> i've been emailing that all day
[15:17] <Ogmios> left
[15:18] <Ogmios> hmm queen was away..no wonder nobody kicked that guy already ;)
[15:18] <Tonee> you don't believe him?
[15:18] <Tonee> did you whois him?
[15:18] <Ogmios> why should i
[15:19] <Ogmios> no
[15:19] <obany> northwestern.edu
[15:19] <Tonee> it said he was from northwestern
[15:19] <Tonee> probably the best school in north america
[15:21] <obany> and what does that say
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[15:22] <Ogmios> ozzy osbourne - i just want you
[15:22] <obany> that guy is ugly as hell, not that found on his music.. but no more tears is a okay song
[15:23] <Ogmios> dio is better singer but ozzy is a living legend
[15:23] <obany> a guy that bites of a head of a bat on stage must be crazy realy crazy
[15:24] <obany> that's something he did for what i read
[15:24] <Ogmios> so..crazy ppl are interesting
[15:24] <obany> hehehe
[15:25] <karmie1> obany - I think you read correctly - he is an OLD living legend
[15:25] <Ogmios> but look photos from him when he was in sabbath
[15:25] <Ogmios> babyface
[15:26] <karmie1> but I don't think it was a bat - maybe a rat or snake
[15:26] <Ogmios> not may ppl live so extreme than he
[15:26] <obany> doesn't matter ... it's wierd
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[15:26] <Ogmios> many
[15:27] <obany> Ogmios: he they even show it on mtv or so ... the Osbourns, that whole family is wierd for what i read
[15:27] <Ogmios> well lots of wierdos in heavy metal
[15:27] <obany> okay but this is not #heavymetal
[15:28] <Ogmios> no? too bad..
[15:29] <Ogmios> wierd can be sto too ;)
[15:29] <obany> when i was like 11/12 i listened to iron maiden metallica and the like . still like rock on occaion but not into heavy metal
[15:29] <obany> well ogmios, i just don't think that mr osbourn is STO
[15:29] <Ogmios> i listened metal when i was 9 years old
[15:30] <karmie1> I stand corrected - bite a bat and also a dove!
[15:36] <Ogmios> INTERESTING FACT: Osbourne thought he was biting into a rubber toy thrown by a fan when instead he bit the head off a bat at a 1981 concert in Des Moines, Iowa. He had to receive rabies shots.
[15:37] <obany> yes...
[15:38] <obany> i read/heard about those rabies shots
[15:39] <obany> anyway the zetatalk preview now has the answers on
[15:39] <Ogmios> left sabbath 1978..so was solo career in 1981
[15:39] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/index/z16.htm
[15:41] <Ogmios> did you read the lyrics from sabbaths sign of the southern cross
[15:43] <obany> just reading it, but i don't think it's about X
[15:48] <obany> some religous influences probably but h higly doubt that this is song about Nibiru
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[15:49] <obany> but enough now about this, as i said earlier on this is not #heavymetal
[15:55] <Ogmios> yes yes
[15:57] <Ogmios> i am sober but restless..slept in the evening
[15:58] <QueenVee> so who was the weird moocow person?
[15:58] <obany> i am feeling a bit tired, slept less then 7 hours last night .. feeling it
[15:58] <obany> QueenVee: joking around i think, bullshitting
[15:58] <QueenVee> mmm
[15:59] <Ogmios> hi victoria
[15:59] <Ogmios> who can tell..what is true and what is not..
[15:59] <obany> why sould someone of the gov visit this channel ..
[15:59] <QueenVee> i gotta reboot my computer, brb.
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[16:00] <Ogmios> well big goverment..
[16:00] <Ogmios> maybe bored person..
[16:00] <obany> no mention of that email addy not on groups.google.com not on www.google.com
[16:00] <obany> if you realy want like 10.000 emails
[16:00] <obany> you get the point
[16:01] <Ogmios> i see
[16:01] <obany> it even might be someone who wanted to know waht we where going to say
[16:02] <obany> and my feeling tells me that this wasn't for real
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[16:03] <West_coast> hello
[16:06] <Ogmios> wonder if ppl still read the bible after the shift..
[16:07] <West_coast> interesting question
[16:08] <West_coast> Revelations will become current events
[16:08] <Ogmios> yes
[16:10] <obany> well for what i read in ZT revelations is in the main for what occur in the middle east
[16:11] <obany> okay wrong
[16:12] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m72.htm
[16:13] <Ogmios> funny,,i saw dream about me as child
[16:14] <Ogmios> that was so unique dream
[16:14] <Ogmios> never see dreams about me being child
[16:14] <West_coast> when was this?
[16:14] <Ogmios> last night
[16:15] <Ogmios> i watching me from outside
[16:16] <West_coast> how did it end?
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[16:16] <West_coast> hi QV
[16:16] <QueenVee> hello hello
[16:16] <Ogmios> i dont remember clearly i was sitting in chair
[16:17] <QueenVee> i have a large hound dog trying to climb into my lap like a small puppy
[16:17] <West_coast> :)
[16:17] <Ogmios> had very long eye brows like i had in that time
[16:18] <obany> maybe your are exploring your inner child
[16:18] <West_coast> ogmios: do your dreams have meaning for you?
[16:19] <Ogmios> had long eyelashes sorry
[16:20] <Ogmios> often they have
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[16:20] <Ogmios> i dont see nightmares at all
[16:21] <Ogmios> does that mean something
[16:21] <West_coast> ?
[16:21] <West_coast> ogmios: have you had any dreams about PS?
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[16:22] <Ogmios> havent seen nightmares for atleast 20 years i can say
[16:22] <Ogmios> yes..aftertime dreams
[16:23] <West_coast> ogmios: that is a good sign, I guess
[16:23] <Ogmios> i am never alone in those aftertime dreams
[16:23] <Ogmios> i see ppl not familiar to me now
[16:28] <obany> well would love to stick around i realy do to chat a bit more but it's almost 1:30am and i feel well tired
[16:29] <obany> need some sleep :)
[16:29] <West_coast> sleep well, obany
[16:29] <QueenVee> nite obany
[16:29] <obany> thnx thnx
[16:30] <West_coast> QV: excuse my ignorance, but what does AFK mean
[16:30] <Ogmios> away from keyboard
[16:30] <obany> away from keyboard :)
[16:31] <obany> okay bye
[16:31] <obany> i realy go now
[16:31] <GalacticExplorer> bye
[16:31] <Ogmios> goodnight
[16:31] <obany> fingers are glued on the keyboard sigh
[16:31] <obany> glued
[16:31] <obany> <-- ircaddict :P
[16:31] <obany> bye
[16:31] <Ogmios> bye
[16:31] <Ogmios> sleep well
[16:31] <QueenVee> so, AFK means you're away, and GTK means you're here...
[16:31] <QueenVee> hehe
[16:32] <obany> ehehehehehhe queen
[16:32] <obany> lol
[16:33] <West_coast> is tonight the state of the union speech?
[16:34] <karmie1> tomorrow nite
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[16:36] <West_coast> it will be interesting to hear what he says about going to Mars
[16:36] <karmie1> west - I wonder if he will even say anything about mars
[16:36] <QueenVee> WC: can you recap that mars thing for me?
[16:37] <West_coast> He is supposedly going to propose nuclear power development to speed trips to Mars
[16:37] <West_coast> and inlcude it in the budget
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[16:38] <QueenVee> someone said that they read that they're planning the first trip within a few weeks? (probably not true)
[16:39] <QueenVee> hello Kain
[16:39] <Kain> hey there fellow Shifters...
[16:40] <GalacticExplorer> Hey queen did you take a look at my map?
[16:40] <karmie1> queen - here is a site:  http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/space/04/10/nasa.budget/
[16:40] <QueenVee> GE: yeah, remember we discussed it last night....?
[16:40] <GalacticExplorer> I made a new one
[16:40] <GalacticExplorer> sent you a link today
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[16:40] <West_coast> hey walt
[16:40] <GalacticExplorer> Hi Kain, hi walt
[16:41] <walt> Hi
[16:42] <Kain> so... who's goin where in 2 weeks?
[16:42] <QueenVee> karmie: that article is dated 2001; wasn't there a new development recently?
[16:42] <QueenVee> GE: okay, gotta look...
[16:42] <karmie1> hehehe - sorry - pulled up the old one - just a min
[16:43] <GalacticExplorer> http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-03c.html  here is a new one about Nuclear engine
[16:45] <karmie1> queen - try this one:http://www.marsnews.com/
[16:46] <Ogmios> http://texty.web3.cz/blacksabbath/blacksabbathheavenandhell.html#song2
[16:46] <Ogmios> interesting lyrics
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[16:47] <QueenVee> mmm, interesting: "Things seem to be speeding up. Sean O'Keefe has indicated the new initiative, if supported, will be implemented immediately with a view to rapid progress"....
[16:47] <QueenVee> what's the hurry, i wonder?
[16:47] <West_coast> :)
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[16:48] <QueenVee> hi yg
[16:49] <GalacticExplorer> Ogmios yep interesting
[16:49] <karmie1> queen - here is a site from the bbc about bush and mars dated Jan 22, 2003:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2684329.stm
[16:49] <Kain> surely they couldn't get the project up and running in just a few short months... unless they are further along than we think..
[16:50] <QueenVee> well, apparently there has been a lot of secrecy surrounding this....
[16:50] <GalacticExplorer> Kain it was in development I am sure, now they probably put the final nail and ready to go
[16:51] <GalacticExplorer> There was a program like that in Soviet Union in 70es or 80es
[16:51] <Kain> so.. are the Elite still working on the premise that the shift won't happen till 2012 or so?
[16:52] <GalacticExplorer> I am sure that US was working on the same program for as long
[16:52] <GalacticExplorer> Kain probably
[16:52] <QueenVee> "We're talking about doing something on a very aggressive schedule..."
[16:52] <West_coast> costing LOTS of money
[16:53] <QueenVee> Kain: no, not according to ZT
[16:53] <GalacticExplorer> Bush increased military budget already
[16:54] <Kain> let em try... they won't be allowed to suceed...
[16:55] <QueenVee> good question for zetatalk, perhaps? is this in fact a plan to escape the poleshift to mars?
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[16:57] <GalacticExplorer> Yes and we would like to know if this engine is actually operational and if they have a working model?
[16:57] * from_Texas greetings
[16:57] <Kain> yea.. good addition GE
[16:57] <West_coast> hi Tex
[16:57] <GalacticExplorer> Hello from Tecas
[16:57] <GalacticExplorer> Texas
[16:57] <Kain> hey there fellow Texan..
[16:57] <karmie1> or maybe just escape earth - dow closed at 7990 today.
[16:57] <West_coast> :)
[16:58] <QueenVee> hey tex
[16:58] <Kain> yea.. obvious this Iraq War is only popular in the White House
[16:58] * from_Texas thanks for the warm welcome all
[16:58] <GalacticExplorer> May be they want to fly around earth for some time until everything is calm, and then in couple of month come back to emty earth
[16:59] <Kain> well that shouldn't be allowed any more than an escape to Mars
[16:59] <karmie1> Galactic - hehehe isn't that what bush did on 9-11?...he flew around for hours and hours
[16:59] <West_coast> going to catch the local news..bbl
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[17:00] <GalacticExplorer> karmie yeah thats what they try to do, I think
[17:00] <karmie1> :)
[17:00] * GalacticExplorer trying to connect to Zetas
[17:00] * GalacticExplorer to see if this is true
[17:01] <GalacticExplorer> nobody is answering
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[17:02] <Kain> Zetas must not have call waiting...
[17:02] <GalacticExplorer> apparently not
[17:02] <walt> GE did you get the right extension number??
[17:03] <QueenVee> i think he forgot about the time difference
[17:03] <GalacticExplorer> area code
[17:03] <from_Texas> I think he forgot to wear the secret decoder ring
[17:04] <Kain> anyone see the Sci-Fi Channel series "TAKEN"?
[17:04] <GalacticExplorer> no
[17:04] <Nick> who runs skepticalmind is that MC r silk or some1 else?
[17:04] <Nick> Kain: se'
[17:05] <QueenVee> Nick: That's Mike Vega (aka Sapphire)
[17:05] <Nick> aha
[17:05] <Kain> trying to get a copy of it... hard time finding sources to download from...
[17:05] <Nick> lol
[17:05] <QueenVee> oh, i know: GE forgot to put on his tin foil hat
[17:05] <GalacticExplorer> LOL Queen
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[17:05] <Kain> LOL loved that bit in "Signs"
[17:06] <LeXar> Hello everyone
[17:06] <GalacticExplorer> Actually tin foil hat to block your thoughts as I remember
[17:06] <Kain> yea.. shield you mind from intruders...
[17:06] <walt> http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html
[17:06] <GalacticExplorer> Never saw Signs movie
[17:06] <QueenVee> oh, i thought it was to improve reception....
[17:06] <karmie1> kain - I need one of those shields
[17:06] <GalacticExplorer> Will probably rent it
[17:06] <walt> remember shiny side out
[17:07] <Kain> fun show GE.. if you like Thrillers...
[17:07] <walt> KARM- http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html
[17:07] <Nick> hey will they let you but those 'business
[17:07] <from_Texas> vg walt
[17:07] <Nick> hey will they let you but those 'business' radios with the 5 mile range w-out a license
[17:07] <Nick> ?
[17:08] <Nick> buy*
[17:08] <walt> here is another http://www.stopabductions.com/
[17:08] <Nick> let you buy*
[17:08] <GalacticExplorer> beep, beep, beep, the number you are trying to dial does not exist or out of service. Please hang up and try again. Sorry for the inconvenience
[17:08] <GalacticExplorer> Oh well. Nancy probably chatting with them
[17:09] <Nick> QV: do you think handheld radios are a good investment for the p-s  or shortwave tabletop riggs better?
[17:09] <QueenVee> GE: well, gee, you'd think they'd at least have call waiting....
[17:10] <QueenVee> Nick: not my area of expertise, sorry
[17:10] <GalacticExplorer> Nick: battery will run out, so look for a wind up radio
[17:10] <Nick> GE: or a wind up charger
[17:10] <Kain> I'm goin for The FreeplayŽ Plus  http://www.ccrane.com/freeplay_plus.asp
[17:10] <Nick> i wonder if they have AAA, C & AA lithium ion rechargable batteries?
[17:11] <Kain> this has a hand crank generater.. LED flashlight.. AM/FM, SW Radio...
[17:11] <GalacticExplorer> Improve your telepathy, no need for radio then
[17:11] <QueenVee> ANYBODY HERE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WEBSITES?
[17:11] <Nick> QV: i do
[17:11] <GalacticExplorer> I do a little
[17:11] <QueenVee> well, i would ask this of ralf or scooby if they were here, but they're not....
[17:11] <GalacticExplorer> http://www.atomickiev.com/galaxy_explorer/ here is mine
[17:11] <Nick> QV: i bought and had indexmain.com for awhile.  sold it.
[17:11] <LeXar> what - the hell - is this AFDB scheme all about?
[17:12] <Kain> AFDB?
[17:12] <QueenVee> scooby was generous enough to buy me the www.shift2003.com domain name for my website, and took care of all the necessary details; up until now anyone using the old address was automatically directed to the new one, but for some reason that is no longer happening. any advice?
[17:13] <Nick> QV: contact network solutions
[17:13] <from_Texas> contact Ralf
[17:13] <GalacticExplorer> what was the old address?
[17:13] <QueenVee> uh, hold on...
[17:14] <Nick> QV: domain redirection is handled by internic or network solutions
[17:14] <Nick> QV: U.S. & Canada: 1-888-642-9675
[17:15] <LeXar> any news that differed from the usual today?
[17:15] <QueenVee> GE: old address: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[17:16] <karmie1> Kain - I have one of those  - great radio and light
[17:16] <GalacticExplorer> ok
[17:16] <Kain> thanks Karmie.. how durable is it?
[17:17] <QueenVee> SO, IF ANYONE HAS THE SHIFT2003 WEBSITE BOOKMARKED UNDER THE OLD ADDRESS (http://shift2003.kgmweb.com), YOU WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE NEW ADDRESS (www.shift2003.com) AND BOOKMARK IT AGAIN --i.e. your old bookmark won't work
[17:17] <karmie1> Kain - we have had this one several years - no problems
[17:17] <GalacticExplorer> kgmweb.com doesn't work either.
[17:17] <Kain> wondering how much of a beating it'll take..
[17:17] <LeXar> alright, I'll go change the link on my website
[17:18] <Terminal> If kgmweb doesn't work that's your problem
[17:18] <Terminal> I'm sure it will go up again soon
[17:18] <karmie1> Kain  - we haven't dropped it or anything, but we use it alot
[17:18] <Kain> ok thanks
[17:19] <karmie1> Kain - got mine at CCrane.com
[17:19] <Kain> as will I
[17:19] <GalacticExplorer> if kgmweb domain doesn't work that's why redirect doesn't work. Probably
[17:20] <Nick> QV: do you think i can see PX now through a relective scope? With a red filter?
[17:21] <from_Texas> GalacticExplorer  http://www.kgmweb.com/ does NOT work
[17:22] <GalacticExplorer> I know. That's what I said
[17:23] <Terminal> When kgmweb.com comes back online, redirecting will also come back. It is on the same server.
[17:23] * from_Texas falls asleep at wheel.. sorry GalacticExplorer
[17:24] <karmie1> Texas - Asleep at the Wheel - now that's a good band
[17:24] <LeXar> great I changed the link on my web site
[17:24] <LeXar> thanks for the latest info. QV
[17:24] <GalacticExplorer> Np from-Texas
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[17:28] <GalacticExplorer> Hi micron
[17:28] <micron> hi new here found you through zeta talk
[17:29] <GalacticExplorer> welcome!
[17:29] <micron> thanks
[17:30] <GalacticExplorer> How did find zetatalk?
[17:30] <GalacticExplorer> how did you find zetatalk.com?
[17:30] <Nick> ok
[17:30] <micron> yahoo groups not sure which one sorry belong to a few
[17:30] <Nick> l8tr
[17:31] <GalacticExplorer> l8tr
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[17:31] <from_Texas> how long have you been aware of poleshift micron
[17:32] <micron> long time but thought it was closer to 2012
[17:33] <from_Texas> micron are you making plans for a safe location
[17:33] <GalacticExplorer> Well its nice to have an alternative sometimes
[17:34] <LeXar> I have
[17:34] <LeXar> you never know what might happen...
[17:35] <LeXar> anywyas, I have some chores to take care of, thanks for the chat everyone, bye.
[17:35] <micron> too late am in madison wi. but who knows I may fair well
[17:35] <GalacticExplorer> bye
[17:35] <from_Texas> LeXar bye
[17:35] <micron> bye
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[17:37] <micron> does anyone know of any groups I wisconsin
[17:37] <GalacticExplorer> There is a Network with other project going on
[17:38] <GalacticExplorer> Project "Network with others"
[17:38] <from_Texas> http://www.shift2003.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=40
[17:38] <GalacticExplorer> and its down now
[17:39] <from_Texas> the link i gave should be working
[17:39] <GalacticExplorer> ha it is! Thanks Texas
[17:39] <micron> thanks
[17:40] <from_Texas> kain you still here
[17:42] <Kain> yea..
[17:42] <from_Texas> meet micron he is from madison wisconsin
[17:43] <micron> hi
[17:43] <Kain> Hey Micron.. your area lookin pretty good these days..
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[17:44] <micron> I guess new to zeta talk
[17:44] <micron> read madison safe loc though
[17:44] <Kain> Me? 2 months into it..
[17:44] <Kain> I've read t
[17:44] <micron> where you at
[17:44] <Kain> plan to leave in April.. so far the plan is the head your way
[17:45] <Kain> Austin, Tx
[17:45] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[17:45] <micron> Oh
[17:45] <micron> thought you were in wi.
[17:45] <Kain> not yet Micron..
[17:46] <micron> know people up here
[17:46] <Kain> know of anyone else settin up camp out that way?
[17:46] <micron> no
[17:47] <Kain> well.. my plans could change if I find a group.. only have one other comeing with me so far...
[17:47] <micron> you have a place to go to
[17:48] <Kain> not really..
[17:48] <Kain> just a general direction as of yet...
[17:48] <micron> found anyone else in the area here?
[17:49] <Kain> no..  :(
[17:50] <micron> well I'll be in here now and again you'll know someone in wi.
[17:52] <Kain> What do you plan to do?
[17:54] <micron> not sure all my family is in ind. If things get bad (it sounds like there will be so warning)I'll try to get them here and find some land a little up stat
[17:55] <Kain> think many would come?
[17:56] <micron> or pack my camping gear and a few things I can get together and go camping in a small county park in wisconsin in near the dells
[17:56] <micron> high ground
[17:57] <Kain> would the area be private enough?
[17:58] <micron> off the beatin path somewhat away from the dells
[17:58] <micron> lake there a valley large hills
[17:59] <micron> very pretty land cow country
[17:59] <Kain> sounds beautiful..
[17:59] <micron> it is up here
[18:00] <micron> this state is pretty much untouched
[18:01] <Kain> Wisconsin start'n to sound even better...
[18:01] <micron> very libral too
[18:01] <micron> sorry can't spell
[18:02] <Kain> spelling & grammer rules are relaxed a good deal in chat rooms..  
[18:02] <micron> good thing LOL
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[18:03] <West_coast> hello
[18:04] <from_Texas> hi West_coast
[18:04] <West_coast> hi Tex
[18:04] <micron> Kain have youtalk to anyone else in here from wi?
[18:04] <micron> hi west
[18:04] <West_coast> hi
[18:04] <Kain> no.. I haven't Micron
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[18:05] <QueenVee> hi, sorry, forgot to mark myself away
[18:05] <West_coast> hi
[18:06] <micron> well think I'm going to read so more but will look for you here kain
[18:06] <micron> bye all thanks
[18:06] <Kain> Alright.. good to meet you..
[18:06] <QueenVee> sorry i missed you micron
[18:06] <Kain> Thanks Texas
[18:06] <micron> I'll Be Back
[18:06] <from_Texas> bye micron
[18:06] <QueenVee> :-)
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[18:07] <from_Texas> Kain thought it wouldn't hurt to meet someone who knows the turf
[18:07] <Kain> never thought I'd be in Wisconsin.. Texans rarely care much for cold weather..
[18:07] <Kain> no doubt.. I'll be in touch with him
[18:12] <West_coast> ZT discusses incarnations of souls into other species besides humans...do they ever mention incarnations into dolphins and whales?
[18:14] <Kain> they say its possible..
[18:14] <Kain> but and does happen.. but only rarely..
[18:14] <QueenVee> my recollection is that ZT said humans do NOT incarnate into animal bodies
[18:14] <West_coast> not necessarily human souls
[18:16] <Kain> ZT said in some cases a soul may find an dolphin, dog, cats life useful..
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[18:18] <QueenVee> hi humvee
[18:18] <Kain> http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d58.htm
[18:19] <humvee> hi i am listening to mark hazelwood re px live now
[18:19] <humvee> http://www.realityradionetwork.com
[18:19] <Kain> how are you hearing it?
[18:19] <humvee> yes above link
[18:20] <humvee> talking about Nancy
[18:20] <QueenVee> so what's he saying?
[18:21] <humvee> saying nancy's images are from NASA
[18:21] <QueenVee> what an asshole
[18:21] <humvee> true
[18:22] <QueenVee> of course he doesn't mention that most of his book is her material
[18:22] * RedzZzz is now known as Red
[18:22] <humvee> exactly
[18:22] <humvee> u can listen at same time by click on listen live
[18:25] <Kain> tuning in now...
[18:25] <QueenVee> hi Red
[18:26] <karmie1> humvee- he sounds frantic
[18:26] <humvee> yes he is
[18:28] <QueenVee> where on that page do i click in order to listen to the program?
[18:29] <humvee> looking
[18:29] <karmie1> broadcast schedule - right over the pic of the dog
[18:30] <GalacticExplorer> it asking to download something. karmie
[18:30] <QueenVee> oh, okay, i've got it now
[18:30] <humvee> goto broadcast schedual then click on listen live
[18:30] <QueenVee> oh, god, he's going on about that hubble thing again
[18:30] <karmie1> Gal - no download
[18:31] * GalacticExplorer trying again
[18:31] <GalacticExplorer> oops I need real player for that
[18:31] <Red> GE might need a download if you don't have a relatively current Realaudio File
[18:32] <QueenVee> he says he thinks nancy is wrong on the direction, but doesn't say WHY
[18:32] <karmie1> GE yes - you will need real player - get the free one
[18:32] <West_coast> rambles on, doesn't he
[18:32] <Red> The hubble sighting was in the direction of the sun...  so he says
[18:32] <humvee> yes because planet are perturbed towards the southern sky
[18:33] <QueenVee> he's more well spoken than i expected
[18:33] <humvee> outer planets r perturbed to the south sky that is
[18:33] <Red> RMN has an article with some of this in it  was on today
[18:33] <QueenVee> RMN?
[18:33] <Red> RumorMillNews
[18:34] <Red> http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?#15635
[18:34] <humvee> most of this has been in his newsletter
[18:34] <Red> I'll bet... I think the RMN thin was a newsletter clip
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[18:36] <karmie1> queen - well spoken??....heheheheh....keep listening
[18:37] <GalacticExplorer> ok listening now
[18:37] <QueenVee> karmie: i didn't say "well spoken", i said "more well spoken than i expected" -- meaning i expected him to be completely incarticulate and rambling, and am surprised he can put a sentence together at all, his posts are so idiotic....
[18:37] <West_coast> :)
[18:38] <karmie1> queen - he sure sounds frantic and why is he giggling so?
[18:38] <humvee> he is ripped that his name is on the opening page of zt
[18:40] <QueenVee> cause the crust to go through a tidal wave?
[18:40] <QueenVee> huh?
[18:40] <humvee> a voodoo wave - lo
[18:40] <QueenVee> is that like "the wave" they do at ball games?
[18:41] <West_coast> clear as mud
[18:41] <humvee> like the one i wait 4 on my surfboard
[18:42] <QueenVee> oh, yeah, he's really giving people good preparation advice:  "get up high as soon as you catch wind of this thing coming"....
[18:43] <QueenVee> and when would that be, Mark?
[18:44] <GalacticExplorer> Its all in the BOOK Queen, BUY and you will know!
[18:44] <humvee> seeds n water and a sack lunch
[18:44] <karmie1> He said, "I am not a seer into the future."....hehehehe...isn't that a redundancy?
[18:50] <QueenVee> blah blah blah blah blah
[18:51] <humvee> cant seem to get ur books out till may eh mark - lol
[18:51] <karmie1> hehehe...fabricated lies.....are these different from natural lies????
[18:52] <QueenVee> LOL
[18:52] <humvee> maybe a copyrite issue?
[18:52] <QueenVee> this guy is LOONY
[18:53] <QueenVee> unbelievable
[18:54] <walt> he will go for the year 2012
[18:54] <walt> more time to sell his books
[18:54] <humvee> baybe we cud find a good STS camp for him 2 goto
[18:54] <walt> same with McCanney
[18:54] <karmie1> The Hazelwood that Came to Dinner
[18:54] <QueenVee> how many more times can he get it in there that HE NEEDS MONEY
[18:54] <West_coast> no kidding
[18:55] <QueenVee> un-fucking-believable
[18:55] <West_coast> :)
[18:55] <Kain> especially after having said you don't need much $$$ to get prepared..
[18:55] <Red> earlier he said it didn't require money   no him I guess
[18:55] <humvee> he doesnt seem 2 have any $ now
[18:55] <Red> hehe
[18:56] <karmie1> Queen - nobody can say that you aren't well spoken!
[18:56] <humvee> imploding citys i think he still peeks @ zt
[18:56] <Red> ya think?   lol
[18:56] <QueenVee> what an idiot, you only have to look at the historical record to give people an idea of what to expect -- the red cross in the sky, the red dust, the slowing rotation.....
[19:00] <Kain> well... that was interesting..
[19:00] <karmie1> that was very interesting
[19:00] <QueenVee> well.... wasn't that special
[19:00] <West_coast> lol
[19:01] <GalacticExplorer> sure was
[19:01] <karmie1> "Some velvet morning, when I am straight..."
[19:02] <humvee> if he doesnt know when its coming maybe he coppied your web name www.planetx2003.com  
[19:03] <humvee> sounds too similar i think - l
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[19:03] <humvee> he is reacting to being cut off from zt
[19:03] <QueenVee> hello silverado -- what brings you to this room?
[19:04] <Silverado> Found it on Zetatalk
[19:04] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[19:04] <Silverado> ZetaTalk, since 1999
[19:04] <Silverado> Poleshift, I am not convinced
[19:05] <QueenVee> so you're not preparing for it then
[19:06] <Silverado> not making major preparations at this time... I thought its not until may anyway?
[19:07] <QueenVee> well, silverado, i think you might want to go to #earthchanges....
[19:07] <QueenVee> please note:
[19:07] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[19:09] <Silverado> well, ok. thought i might see what kind of preparations you all are making, thanks anyway
[19:09] <QueenVee> ok
[19:09] <QueenVee> bye
[19:09] <Zetapal> #earthchanges
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[19:13] <humvee> Mark says he doesnt know when px is comming but the cover of his book says:  BLINDSIDED Planet x Passes in 2003  EARTHCHANGES   maybe he forgot what his book cover says?
[19:14] <Zetapal> or maybe he is just backing away
[19:14] <humvee> He is like a little kid who has been scolded and is denying doing anything wrong
[19:14] <QueenVee> hey, he wants to keep his options as wide open as possible
[19:15] <QueenVee> wants to be able to stretch this gravy train out as long as possible
[19:15] <West_coast> I guess he doesn't need to worry about a place to go for PS
[19:15] <humvee> he said in his email news that he just sold his south florida home
[19:15] <QueenVee> he's an accomplished sponger
[19:16] <West_coast> Interesting that there are already places for him to go
[19:16] <QueenVee> wow, sold his house and the money's already gone?
[19:16] <humvee> Service to Mark  ( STM)  LOL
[19:16] <Red> or he has read the warnings of law suits at sci.astro and kinda lost a bit of his conviction
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[19:17] <humvee> why do u think boarders is stalling releasing his book were they threatened re copyrite material included in it
[19:18] <QueenVee> humvee: i've worked in the publishing industry for over 20 years, nothing he says makes sense in terms of how the industry works
[19:18] <humvee> he took lots from Sitchen Nancy n Velosksky
[19:18] <QueenVee> if Borders has the book, they will sell it
[19:18] <QueenVee> clearly they just don't carry it
[19:19] <humvee> yes book sellers dont care and will sell anything they can
[19:19] <humvee> it would hav 2 be a problem @ the publishing level
[19:20] <QueenVee> do you know how long i've seen this? the author tells people you can get my book in Borders, someone tries to get it there, they don't have it, they tell the author; to save face, the author jumps up and down about how fucked up the publisher's and bookstore's ordering system is....
[19:20] <humvee> boarders computer reports distributors projected shipping dates
[19:20] <QueenVee> when the bookstore has simply never ordered it at all, because they're not intertested in it
[19:20] <QueenVee> humvee: according to Mark
[19:21] <QueenVee> do you know how rare it is for a self-published book to be carried by Borders?
[19:21] <humvee> i ordered it almost 2 years ago after his c2c interview w/art bell but they said not available yet
[19:21] <QueenVee> who said that?
[19:22] <humvee> oh did not know s/pub thought was a mainline
[19:22] <humvee> his mistake
[19:23] <QueenVee> sorry, i don't understand what you just said
[19:23] <karmie1> BBL
[19:23] <humvee> I suspect it is not good enough and he is uncredentialed
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[19:24] <QueenVee> hazelwood is a con artist -- he spins tales
[19:24] <humvee> if book was any good he should have sold it to a mainline publisher not self published as u cant get distributed that way very easy
[19:24] <QueenVee> yes, exactly
[19:26] <QueenVee> every would-be author thinks it's a conspiracy that they're book is not getting published and/or distributed or sold as widely as they expect
[19:28] <West_coast> if he writes like he talks, I don't think it is going to go over to well
[19:28] <humvee> its too bad  -  he made an effort he could have help spread the word
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[19:28] <QueenVee> hello Cruithne
[19:28] <Cruithne> :)
[19:31] <West_coast> cruithne: east coast, yes?
[19:31] <Cruithne> yes
[19:32] <Cruithne> u ever hear of rockaway beach
[19:32] <West_coast> sounds familiar
[19:32] <QueenVee> what about it?
[19:33] <Cruithne> it's on the easr coast in queens ny
[19:33] <Cruithne> east coast
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[19:33] <West_coast> see ya, Tex
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[19:34] <tex-away> !down
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[19:34] <humvee> anybody have any idea what the viewing team means by a clear session?
[19:35] <Zetapal> freedom from moon glare or atmosperic interference?
[19:35] <humvee> as in "These appear to be a clear session" re:1/25/2003 Set of Images
[19:36] <humvee> yes i had thought that = much better that devoid of anything recognizable i suppose - lol
[19:37] <humvee> ty
[19:37] <Kain> I've no idea what I'm lookin at in those pics..
[19:37] <QueenVee> there have been tons of new train derailments; i've been collecting them to put in one posting....
[19:38] <West_coast> wow
[19:38] <Kain> TONS you say???
[19:39] <humvee> yes - i hav come to see that things show up n move along a line of progression 2 the right and the moons/splatter junk are getting briter and larger by the week (pretty good) so far
[19:39] <humvee> Kain - u think so far?
[19:40] <Kain> Its hard for me to discern...
[19:41] <humvee> ok - im just going by the processed pics
[19:41] <QueenVee> Kain: i've got ten reports bookmarked in the last week
[19:41] <humvee> also if as represented we shud b able 2 c in small scope before visible by eye
[19:42] <Kain> been reading em QV.. why TONS more seem even more interesting
[19:42] <Kain> would stand to reason...
[19:43] <Kain> and when should that be?
[19:43] <QueenVee> Kain: the ten i've just mentioned i haven't posted on the site yet, they're new
[19:43] <humvee> Queen's site says eye by march 30 its jan 27 so by feb1 we shud know enough to sye or cry
[19:44] <QueenVee> humvee: you've just reminded me to update that....
[19:44] <Kain> no confusion here.. I'm in awe of the greater #, so to speak..
[19:44] <tied2> back
[19:44] <humvee> ok ywlcome
[19:44] <tied2> sorry i forgot to mark as away
[19:45] <Kain> so Feb1 or so we should be able to see it with less sophisticated equipment?
[19:45] <Kain> or then know better when we will get better pics?
[19:47] <West_coast> train derailments are very graphic indicator of what is to come
[19:48] <Kain> Humvee: I don't understand your above statement about what we should know Feb1.. could ya clarify?
[19:49] <QueenVee> interestingly, most of the derailments and sinkholes are happening in coastal areas
[19:49] <Kain> very telling...
[19:49] <West_coast> more shifting going on?
[19:49] <Cruithne> maybe water is getting in soil
[19:50] <tied2> is anyone still alive?
[19:50] <QueenVee> Poleshift date: May 15th (3 months & 3 weeks from now); Date PX will be seen in the daytime sky with the naked eye: March 31st (2 months & 1 week from now)
[19:50] <humvee> Kain: sorry was afk @ stove  yes that is an opinion of mine and i dont do zt (hehe)
[19:51] <QueenVee> tied2: oh, didn't anyone tell you? the poleshift came early....
[19:51] <tied2> and I slept thry it?
[19:51] <QueenVee> yeah, as usual
[19:51] <humvee> oh i missed where was it?
[19:51] <QueenVee> hehe
[19:51] <tied2> won't supprise me
[19:52] <Kain> humvee: What is it you think we should know Feb1?
[19:53] <humvee> well i hav been trying to make an educated guess based on what we know so far from the viewing team
[19:53] <West_coast> everyone take care..C U later
[19:53] <QueenVee> nite wc
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[19:54] <Kain> and what was that guess? didn't understand 1st time around..
[19:54] <humvee> 1. pz moons seem 2 be getting briter fasted than px and some seem 2 have a much higher albedo (reflectance = whiter)
[19:55] <humvee> so even if something the size of r moon was wippin along in the same area and reflecting light astronomers wouls be getting off on it so to speak
[19:56] <Kain> so you think it will start to get a lot more attention.... okay..
[19:56] <humvee> i think 26 or so small to med sized objects will be visible like a bunch of fireflys in about 2 weeks
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[19:58] <Kain> interesting..  I kinda hope so..  be nice to have convincing pics..
[19:58] <Kain> to lamen such as myself anyways...
[19:58] <humvee> also with a red filter and a film camera screwed on a small (4-6) scope fast b&w filk amd a 1 min exposure on 800 asa (cheap) film n u could go to the bank
[19:58] <QueenVee> hello Trunks -- what brings you to this room?
[19:58] <Trunks420> just looking for more research
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[19:59] <Valdrix> hi
[19:59] <QueenVee> Trunks: research?
[19:59] <QueenVee> hey Valdrix
[19:59] <QueenVee> Trunks: what are you researching?
[20:00] <humvee> kain by passage time @ 14 mil miles we shud be able to see their paramids
[20:00] <QueenVee> humvee: lol
[20:00] <humvee> its still 14 Billion miles this week away
[20:00] <QueenVee> i thought it was the whites of their yes
[20:00] <QueenVee> eyes
[20:00] <Zetapal> lol
[20:00] <Trunks420> oh about planet x
[20:01] <Zetapal> or their big penises
[20:01] <QueenVee> Trunks: how long have you been aware of zetatalk, PX, and the coming poleshift?
[20:01] <humvee> its the guy waving back i want to aim @
[20:01] <Cruithne> when will air line flights be affected
[20:01] <Trunks420> oh i would say about an 2 hours or so.....been doing alot of reading on the subject
[20:01] <QueenVee> does anyone have the new Coast to Coast website address?
[20:02] <humvee> there shud b a short window of greatly reduced escape velosity the ps week
[20:02] <Terminal> http://www.coasttocoastam.com
[20:02] <QueenVee> Trunks: please note:
[20:02] <Terminal> im listening to it now :)
[20:02] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[20:02] <Zetapal> http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
[20:02] <humvee> i thought we could launch a whole load of CRAP at them - LOL
[20:02] <QueenVee> Trunks: you should go to #earthchanges
[20:03] <Trunks420> i guess..like i said..im just doing some research on
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[20:03] <Trunks420> got me inerested
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[20:04] <QueenVee> Trunks: well, this is for those who are doing more than research; you will find people in #earthchanges who know a lot about the subject
[20:04] <Trunks420> ok
[20:04] <QueenVee> you might want to check out this site as well:
[20:04] <QueenVee> www.shift2003.com
[20:05] <QueenVee> go to the POLESHIFT LINKS section
[20:05] <Trunks420> thanks
[20:05] <QueenVee> yw, bye
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[20:07] <QueenVee> well, i have to take the hound out now, get a beer and midnight snack, reboot the computer... be back later
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[20:50] <nibiru> Anyone home?
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[21:11] <QueenVee> did everyone go bye bye?
[21:12] <Terminal> not yet
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[21:13] <QueenVee> wb Cruithne
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[21:13] <tied2> ;m here kinda
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[21:15] <QueenVee> hi jubjub
[21:15] <jubjub963> hello
[21:16] <jubjub963> prepare for major bs tomorrow with shrub's speech
[21:17] <QueenVee> oh, is that tomorrow?
[21:17] <jubjub963> hehe, i can't bring myself to watch it
[21:17] <yggdrasil> kan we see it yet?
[21:17] <QueenVee> i have to immediately change the channel as soon as i see his smirky face and hear his dumb-ass voice
[21:17] <yggdrasil> it should be getting close ?
[21:18] <jubjub963> now all the major networks , not just fox news, have jumped on board for the war, so i don't even watch network news anymore
[21:19] <jubjub963> they saw fox had the ratings, so they leapt on board, pretty cowardly of them
[21:19] <jubjub963> bah, too depressing, any earthquakes today?
[21:20] <QueenVee> yeah, let's talk about something cheerful, like earthquakes....
[21:20] <jubjub963> heh
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[21:20] <jubjub963> usgs upped turkey's from 5 to 6
[21:20] <QueenVee> the EMSC site i use for my reports has been down for two days, but news report of recent quakes are on my website (www.shift2003.com): the biggest was a 6.5 in Turkey....
[21:21] <QueenVee> Guest: please change your nickname to something other than Guest or you will automatically be disconnected. do you know how to do that?
[21:21] <Guest> no
[21:21] <QueenVee> what nickname would you like to use?
[21:22] <Guest> ruby
[21:22] <QueenVee> okay, the the following and then hit return:  /nick ruby
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[21:22] <QueenVee> excellent!
[21:22] <ruby> done
[21:22] <QueenVee> hello ruby, welcome -- what brings you to this room?
[21:23] <ruby> just to see if there is activity at this time of night
[21:23] <QueenVee> wrong answer
[21:23] <QueenVee> please note:
[21:23] <ruby> why?
[21:23] <QueenVee> 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[21:23] <ruby> oh I'm preparing
[21:24] <QueenVee> ?
[21:24] <ruby> quit my job, buying property in the bonnies. Now acquiring tools and supplies with my 3 months left
[21:24] <ruby> (boonies)
[21:25] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[21:25] <ruby> ZT for 3.5 years, poleshift for 20 years
[21:25] <QueenVee> so what was your initial source re the poleshift?
[21:26] <ruby> Cayce and other channelers
[21:26] <QueenVee> whereabouts are you located?
[21:27] <ruby> Ruby ridge
[21:27] <QueenVee> where's that?
[21:27] <ruby> Idaho
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[21:27] <QueenVee> is that your relocation area?
[21:27] <ruby> yup
[21:27] <Cruithne> r u near the place where randy weaver held out
[21:28] <ruby> about 3 miles away
[21:28] <Cruithne> is there many survivalist in that area
[21:28] <ruby> lots of self sufficent people here
[21:28] <Cruithne> organized i mean
[21:29] <ruby> they sell big bags of grain a regular grocery stores here
[21:29] <ruby> nothing organized that I know of
[21:29] <QueenVee> sounds like a good location to be
[21:29] <Cruithne> what ever happened to his place?
[21:29] <ruby> couple people with domes around here
[21:29] <QueenVee> cool
[21:29] <ruby> his place is still vacant
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[21:30] <Aaaaa> hi all
[21:31] <ruby> the only thing I'm worried about are coastal volcanos
[21:31] <QueenVee> hello Aaaaa
[21:31] <Aaaaa> hi Queen
[21:32] <QueenVee> coastal volcanoes?
[21:32] <ruby> Mt St Helens and others blowing ash this way
[21:32] <QueenVee> ah, i see
[21:32] <Cruithne> & the 3 sisters
[21:32] <ruby> there was like 7" of dust here last time
[21:33] <QueenVee> wow
[21:33] <QueenVee> that's a big concern
[21:33] <ruby> but the zetas are saying it should blow south instead of east after the shift
[21:33] <QueenVee> ruby: what area did you live in before you moved to idaho?
[21:34] <ruby> all over, but grew up in Maryland
[21:35] <QueenVee> where is the most recent area you lived in?
[21:35] <ruby> in the last 2 yrs... TX, CO, WV, WI, and GA
[21:35] <ruby> computer consultant....
[21:36] <QueenVee> so what made you choose idaho?
[21:36] <ruby> many reasons... best of all options if it does, or does not happen.
[21:36] <QueenVee> smart
[21:37] <QueenVee> we're all leading that double life right now
[21:37] <ruby> decent rainfall, warm winters, mountain scenery, zeta-declared safe, affordable land
[21:37] <QueenVee> trying to plan for the poleshift happening.... and not happening.....
[21:37] <ruby> proximity to new equator
[21:37] <vn> what time bush holds this speech? tomorrow
[21:38] <ruby> got to hedge bets when spending big bucks
[21:38] <QueenVee> who cares? it will be so predictable
[21:38] <vn> all the hex index etc has been affected now
[21:38] <QueenVee> hex index?
[21:38] <QueenVee> ruby: of course
[21:38] <QueenVee> it would be foolish to do otherwise
[21:39] <vn> stocking rates
[21:39] <ruby> stock prices?
[21:39] <QueenVee> stock market?
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[21:39] <vn> yes
[21:39] <QueenVee> hey pegasi
[21:39] <Pegasi_Tristan> Hi :)
[21:39] <tied2> hello
[21:40] <QueenVee> Pegasi: meet Ruby, he/she is in Idaho
[21:40] <ruby> I put the large part of my cash into gold last august, got out of stocks
[21:40] <QueenVee> Pegasi is in Colorado (or is it Virginia?)
[21:40] <ruby> He
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[21:40] <Pegasi_Tristan> Well met, Ruby :)
[21:40] <Pegasi_Tristan> Va. at the moment
[21:40] <Cruithne> well u know it's 370
[21:40] <Cruithne> i did same thing
[21:40] <ruby> got in at 308
[21:41] <ruby> I'll probably hold it until Bush send the troops in next month
[21:42] <Pegasi_Tristan> Cant wait to see what he has up his sleeve for the state of the union address
[21:42] <Cruithne> he'll say time is running out which is very true
[21:42] <Cruithne> :)
[21:43] <QueenVee> Pegasi: you honestly think there will be something unpredictable?
[21:43] <ruby> he won't play all of his cards tomorrow
[21:43] <QueenVee> what cards would those be?
[21:43] <Pegasi_Tristan> I cant say but I was thinking he may toss out some more crazy rhetoric
[21:43] <ruby> any of his so called "intelligence"
[21:43] <QueenVee> yeah, exactly -- completely predictable
[21:44] <QueenVee> at least it was kind of fun to listen to Clinton, he was such an accomplished liar. Bush is a rank amateur.
[21:44] <Pegasi_Tristan> heh
[21:44] <Aaaaa> lol
[21:44] <ruby> he needs to have some sort of outrage to justify attacking, there is just too much international pressure against him right now.
[21:45] <QueenVee> hasn't even learned how to wipe the smirk off his face while he pulls one over....
[21:45] <Aaaaa> :}
[21:45] <Pegasi_Tristan> And Clin Powell keeps gettig mixed messages...first he says a dozen 'unnamed allies' are with us, then says US will go alone if they have to
[21:46] <Pegasi_Tristan> Will the address be live or taped?
[21:46] <ruby> I'm sure there will be some surprise up their sleeves before attacking
[21:46] <QueenVee> it's usually live, isn't it?
[21:46] <Pegasi_Tristan> I cant remember
[21:46] <QueenVee> ruby: i doubt it
[21:46] <ruby> always live
[21:46] <Pegasi_Tristan> ah
[21:47] <Cruithne> i hope the surprize isn't another 911 event
[21:47] <Pegasi_Tristan> How about the human shields going to Iraq? Heroes IMHO
[21:47] <Cruithne> lol
[21:47] <ruby> wouldn't be that bad
[21:48] <ruby> I'd be right there with 'em if this stupid planet thing wasn't on my calendar
[21:48] <Pegasi_Tristan> Aye
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[21:49] <Pegasi_Tristan> Seems like yesterday it was years away, heh
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[21:50] <ruby> wish it still was
[21:50] <Pegasi_Tristan> I have everything pretty much all set...just waitng to make my move (personal stuff etc.)
[21:51] <ruby> I have alot of stuff left to buy
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[21:52] <Pegasi_Tristan> I've tried to keep money out of the equation as much as possible
[21:52] <ruby> putting things off until the last minute just in case it doesn't  happen
[21:52] <Cruithne> me too
[21:52] <Cruithne> watching & waiting
[21:52] <ruby> I'm protecting my money, but realize that it will be worthless if not spent prior to the shift
[21:52] <Pegasi_Tristan> I though od doing that too...but Earth changes before the shift kind of have me spooked
[21:53] <Pegasi_Tristan> Not to mention Bush et al
[21:53] <Cruithne> am wondering if / when air travel becomes affected
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[21:54] <Pegasi_Tristan> Heh, I have never flown and never will
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[21:54] <QueenVee> hey islander
[21:54] <ruby> the view is nice from 30,000 ft
[21:54] <islander> hey queen
[21:55] <QueenVee> everyone: meet Ruby, he's new here tonight, he's in idaho
[21:55] <Pegasi_Tristan> ruby: It sounds like it is nice
[21:55] <islander> hi ruby
[21:55] <ruby> I like views ;-)
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[21:55] <ruby> hello
[21:55] <inkpen> opps
[21:55] <inkpen> should have turned com off befor, sorry
[21:56] <inkpen> and hello
[21:57] <inkpen> hello ruby
[21:57] <islander> what's the discussion tonight?
[21:57] <inkpen> lots of peeps tonite :)
[21:57] <Pegasi_Tristan> Anyone here of the mysterious water main break in DC?
[21:58] <vn> tell more
[21:58] <vn> oh
[21:59] * Pegasi_Tristan is trying to find the article...
[21:59] <QueenVee> pegasi: no, when was that?
[21:59] <ruby> I know there was one in Atlanta
[22:00] <QueenVee> islander: kinda ad hoc
[22:00] <Pegasi_Tristan> I heard on CNN today earlier...yeah, maybe it was Atlanta...
[22:00] <QueenVee> Pegasi: there have been a lot of those lately....
[22:01] <inkpen> finaly starting to break down...all rusty and old :)
[22:01] <Pegasi_Tristan> I hope the gas lines keep their cool
[22:01] <ruby> it's been cold
[22:01] <inkpen> heheh
[22:01] <Pegasi_Tristan> oops, sorry for the pun
[22:01] <inkpen> ive seen what natural gas can do if there is even the smallest fracture
[22:02] <ruby> the booms they had in Georgia are strange though
[22:02] <inkpen> techtonic stress?
[22:02] <QueenVee> those booms have been occurring all over
[22:02] <QueenVee> most notably in India
[22:02] <ruby> I heard one down there before
[22:03] <ruby> summer of 2000 in Atlanta
[22:03] <ruby> sounded like a big truck crashing into a loading