Session Start: Wed Jan 29 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
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[00:03] <scooby> hia willin
[00:04] <scooby> havent seen you here b4
[00:04] <willin> hi
[00:04] <willin> no talking goin on?
[00:04] <scooby> not much
[00:04] <scooby> pretty quiet
[00:04] <scooby> maybe come back in the AM
[00:04] <willin> NY time here
[00:04] <willin> 3 am
[00:04] <scooby> CALI here
[00:04] <scooby> midnite
[00:05] <scooby> it picksup around 7 or 8 AM
[00:05] <scooby> PST
[00:05] <willin> really?
[00:05] <scooby> maybe earlier... just depends
[00:05] <willin> don't you just love he internet?
[00:05] <scooby> sometimes the Europeans start chatting around 2 or 3
[00:05] <scooby> PST
[00:05] <scooby> yup
[00:06] <willin> did you seen the new French photo supposedly from Soho?
[00:06] <scooby> link?
[00:06] <willin> it was on TTwatch I believe
[00:06] <scooby> OK...
[00:06] <scooby> maybe someone will repost it later
[00:06] <scooby> i gotta go home...
[00:07] <scooby> c'ya..
[00:07] <willin> me too
[00:07] <willin> bye
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[00:08] <Aaaaa> hey Hum
[00:08] <humvee> hiya Aaaa and all
[00:08] <islander> hi hum
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[00:08] <humvee> Islander how do i register this mirc?
[00:08] <islander> fresh install?
[00:09] <humvee> inst about 2 months ago
[00:09] <islander> mine was setup with a purchase but I think there is a link in the program...hang on
[00:09] <Aaaaa> not mandatory to reg
[00:10] <humvee> oh i c bow how 2 register - yes if its low cost qv asked m 2 so she can + me
[00:10] <Aaaaa> ok
[00:11] <humvee> will try how 2 box brb
[00:11] <islander> just access the How to register link on their site:   http://www.mirc.com
[00:12] <humvee> ty
[00:13] <islander> Aaaaa: its free shareware....for 30 days
[00:13] <islander> then its a karma thing
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[00:13] <islander> hi IaNZ
[00:13] <Aaaaa> yes, I know
[00:13] <IaNZ> Hi GUys
[00:14] <Aaaaa> they really just want a small donation
[00:14] <islander> as does everyone in the biz
[00:15] <Aaaaa> :)
[00:15] <islander> better than being held for ransom like others practice with every patch and new version
[00:15] <islander> :)
[00:15] <Aaaaa> agree
[00:16] <islander> I'm tired of trying to keep uptodate software
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[00:18] <islander> wb walt
[00:18] <walt> : )
[00:25] <humvee> well i guess im leagle now - lol
[00:25] <islander> good for you, how does it feel?
[00:26] <humvee> all warm n fuzzy
[00:26] <islander> paying his dues and playing by the rules.......marrrrrvelous!
[00:27] <islander> oh the games we play
[00:27] <islander> :)
[00:27] <humvee> since my isp drops me frequently this is a better alternative
[00:28] <humvee> at least i can chase the bunkers away at nite
[00:28] <humvee> drones=1 bunkers=0
[00:29] <humvee> had dinner with jim scotty's fatherinlaw is the most vitreolic de-bunker on sci-astro
[00:29] <humvee> in in the guines book of records 4 astronomy finds
[00:30] <islander> is he looking for PX or turning blind eye?
[00:31] <humvee> univ of colorado school of anti drone-ology
[00:31] <humvee> he is the one who says Nancy is an astrological illererate
[00:31] <islander> ohhh, don't look because of the messenger school
[00:32] <humvee> so smug he wont even look "there"
[00:32] <islander> seems to be a common acedemic answer
[00:32] <humvee> pretty hillarious
[00:32] <islander> academic
[00:33] <humvee> wen this thing(PX) shows im spamming his personal email address
[00:33] <islander> not worth the effort and you won't have the spare time
[00:34] <humvee> im sending him that et picture with the hidden trojanhorse
[00:34] <humvee> well things are going @ light speed around here alright
[00:34] <humvee> opened escrow on house today
[00:35] <islander> remember the warning about the pace picking up?
[00:35] <humvee> y is blinding  days = 10 minutes
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[00:42] <walt> and what are you going to do if it doesnt show?
[00:42] <walt> spam him anyway?
[00:43] <islander> invite him for dinner?
[00:44] <islander> and serve spam
[00:44] <islander> :)
[00:44] <humvee> true
[00:44] <humvee> we r going to vacation see the parks NOT WORK either way
[00:45] <humvee> i m a hopeless workaholic
[00:45] <walt> with 4 finds already, I bet you he is looking
[00:46] <walt> person that spots that planet will get a nobel
[00:46] <walt> even if it isnt coming this way
[00:46] <islander> if they do will they have to wait for nominations?
[00:47] <islander> so what are the odds walt?
[00:47] <walt> odds of what?
[00:47] <islander> pX , yes or no
[00:48] <walt> I dont see any proof yet
[00:48] <walt> so Im not convinced
[00:48] <islander> the hard visual evidence is there yet but will be too late if you wait
[00:48] <islander> isn't
[00:48] <humvee> i see plenty up to now as moons getting bigger etc but hav 2 c it my self
[00:49] <walt> I dont see anything in the pix
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[00:49] <humvee> got 2 get it into the old 6" Orion telescope or no dice
[00:49] <humvee> are u looking @ the files or the overprocessed circled ones?
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[00:50] <walt> yes
[00:51] <humvee> oh as per the processed ones = very nice n shows a pattern developing
[00:52] <humvee> as 4 the actual pic o sky spent time looking tonite we cud barely pick the sky area out
[00:53] <humvee> charecter recognition of dot patterns give me a break
[00:53] <humvee> found the pattern finally by adjusting the window size
[00:54] <humvee> between the dss stock sky image in the left browser window
[00:54] <humvee> and then put steves image (BMP) in the right browser window
[00:55] <humvee> by the time we found the same stars we were burnt out
[00:55] <Aaaaa> :)
[00:55] <humvee> did c some extra spots and dots etc but what the hell does that mean?
[00:56] <humvee> so back 2 waiting 2 more weeks to see what develops aanalysis and when i can get my pic with old b&w film
[00:57] <walt> I been lurking on Sci.astro
[00:57] <walt> and not one of them people see anything
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[00:58] <Aaaaa> hey OB
[00:59] <obany> hi Aaaaa
[00:59] <humvee> yes if they arent taking 1200 second = 20 minutes exposures and processing i dont think they can see anything
[00:59] <obany> what you folks talking about?
[00:59] <humvee> they all are use to looking 4 white point scorce images
[00:59] <Aaaaa> scoping x
[01:00] <humvee> obany why jim scotty n company on sci-astro cant see his reflection
[01:00] <humvee> have to hav red filter / 20 min exp / processed layering
[01:01] <humvee> but if 8 weeks left 2 c by eye then in 2 weeks more shud c in real time and briter moons np
[01:03] <obany> humvee: are you talking in favor of J. Scotti, since i just joined in ?
[01:04] <humvee> oh no had dinner with his fatherinlaw who thinks he is just swell - LOL
[01:05] <obany> ehehehe :)
[01:06] <humvee> had a bunch of emails re px from jim awhile back as his dadnlaw asked as had been talking 2 me - u can guess what hw replied as 2 his view of zetas info
[01:06] <obany> okay laters ... brb etc ...
[01:06] <humvee> ok
[01:07] <humvee> actually i got to goto bed now zzzzz back in the an bye
[01:07] <Aaaaa> bye
[01:07] <humvee> c ya
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[01:12] <islander> wb scooby
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[01:13] <scooby> lol
[01:13] <scooby> didn't mean to jump out... was just testing something
[01:13] <scooby> lol
[01:14] <islander> THAT WAS PART OF THE TEST?
[01:15] <islander> sorry about getting loud
[01:15] <scooby> just releasing and renewing my IP
[01:16] <scooby> thought I could sneak by mIRC
[01:16] <scooby> but noooooo
[01:16] <scooby> it has to be connected for every second....
[01:16] <scooby> lol
[01:23] <Aaaaa> seeya when the sun comes back, g'nite all
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[01:27] <islander> likewise, time to conserve on the light, cu later
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[01:49] <obany> ruh ho ...
[01:49] <obany> everybody left
[01:51] <scooby> i'm still here
[01:51] <scooby> sorta
[01:54] <obany> ah .. k
[01:58] <obany> you got something left to talk about or ?
[02:07] <scooby> yeah...
[02:07] <scooby> i was just looking at safe locs doc
[02:08] <obany> ah
[02:08] <scooby> and was not able to find word one on Florida, US
[02:08] <scooby> is it gonna be totally under water?
[02:09] <obany> scooby .. there is
[02:09] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx085.htm
[02:10] <scooby> i had a feeling
[02:10] <scooby> lol
[02:10] <scooby> well, we may be going out of the frying pan (san diego) and into the fire
[02:10] <scooby> (florida)
[02:11] <scooby> interesting:
[02:11] <scooby> http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/1538670_comment.php
[02:13] <obany> yes
[02:15] <obany> pagan rituals etc ...
[02:15] <obany> child abusement by a senator sigh
[02:15] <scooby> yeah, and all sortsa rituals
[02:16] * scooby sighs
[02:16] <scooby> i am looking for a passage
[02:17] <obany> mm a senator who wrote a book .. i see it now ..
[02:17] <obany> policicians involved
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[02:18] <scooby> something about Larry King too
[02:19] <obany> another one
[02:19] <obany> Not the Larry King on T.V. but another one.
[02:22] <scooby> uh, are you sure about that?
[02:23] <obany> Yes, yes that's what it says on that page
[02:23] <scooby> oic
[02:23] <scooby> i was just scanning it
[02:24] <scooby> maybe i should really read it
[02:24] <scooby> lol
[02:25] <obany> " JD: I was. I had just gotten out of the [state] Senate a year or so before when this started breaking. Let me give the story real quick. In North Omaha, Nebraska there was a credit union, a federal credit union and that was run by a man named Larry King. Larry King was and you may remember and I'm sure you'll hear about him again. Not the Larry King on T.V. but another one. "
[02:26] <scooby> oh, good
[02:26] <scooby> whew...
[02:28] <obany> :)
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[02:41] <obany> sigh seems that there is a Hazlewood fan posting on sci.astro
[02:42] <scooby> lol... prolly Hazelwood
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[02:43] <scooby> wb greg
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[02:47] <obany> somebody called mike or so posted an article from a site.. you know the one in wich that mccaney claims that the pictures on zetatalk are NASA
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[02:48] <obany> have nasa server names .. sigh
[02:49] <obany> greg: please either stay on or don't stay on
[02:49] <obany> join left join left join left.. is a little anoying
[02:49] * obany brb
[02:55] <obany> back
[02:57] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> picky, picky, picky ... I was having mIRC problems  -- WWJD  :-)
[02:57] <obany> okay okay
[02:58] <obany> no problem then
[02:58] <obany> exuse me
[02:58] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> 's okay
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[02:59] <scooby> lol Greg
[02:59] <scooby> WWJD... as if
[02:59] <scooby> on mIRC
[02:59] <scooby> lol
[02:59] <obany> WWJD?
[02:59] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> Hey. do unto others ...
[02:59] <scooby> i know...  i just think that's a funny image...
[03:00] <scooby> Jesus chatting away on mIRC
[03:00] <scooby> rotf
[03:00] <scooby> i dont mean to offend...  its just kinda funny
[03:00] <zod_away> anyone want nancy 1st radio broadcast on rense (1998)
[03:00] <scooby> obany: What Would Jesus Do
[03:00] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> we have our devils on mIRC, why not our Ascended Masters?  :-)
[03:01] * scooby raises his hand
[03:01] <scooby> touche Greg
[03:01] <scooby> send away zod
[03:02] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> Is different in any significant ways from all the later stuff?
[03:02] <obany> scooby :)
[03:03] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> I dropped my log last night -- did I miss anything of interest?
[03:04] <scooby> lol @ greg
[03:04] <obany> not realy [Greg-AC-NJ]
[03:06] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> well, thanks  anyway, although it may turn out to be a 'collectable'.
[03:07] <scooby> lol
[03:07] <scooby> you really dont know?
[03:07] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> save it for a few months
[03:07] <obany> scooby ?
[03:07] <obany> greg?
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[03:10] <scooby> yes
[03:10] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> here, ob
[03:10] <scooby> server was bot flooded last nite
[03:10] <scooby> over 170 in this room alone at one time, apparently
[03:11] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> only a taste of what life will be like if we go to war
[03:12] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> every damn Muslim in the world will become a cracker
[03:12] <scooby> almost all got g-lined or k-lined
[03:12] <scooby> pretty exciting
[03:13] <scooby> this room, #tt and #earthchanges
[03:13] <obany> again ?
[03:13] <scooby> last nite
[03:14] <obany> i know about another flood one join in and suddenly it where more ... but i heard that yesterday
[03:14] <obany> so did it occured again ?
[03:14] <scooby> no not again
[03:14] <scooby> just recapping for greg
[03:14] <obany> ah
[03:17] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> sounds like a good time to have the log down. right now my RealPlayer indicates possible 'net congestion'
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[03:23] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> ob - mIRC v6.03 but my problems were local
[03:27] <scooby> lol Greg: doesn't Real Player always indicate possible net congetstion?
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[03:38] <scooby> http://www.funnyshit.com/1.html
[03:39] <obany> using merlin etc... .. i am not running windows here so
[03:39] <scooby> oic
[03:39] <scooby> thats the mirc guy
[03:39] <scooby> lol
[03:39] <scooby> not on my puter tho
[03:39] <scooby> i have him at work
[03:40] <scooby> what OS obany?
[03:40] <obany> redhat
[03:40] <scooby> nice
[03:53] * juditness is back.. hi [been gone for: 4hrs 46mins 23secs] at 12:53:08
[04:00] * obany laters tv etc...
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[04:26] <djtrypt> high
[04:26] <obany> low
[04:26] <djtrypt> :-P
[04:27] <djtrypt> hows it going
[04:27] <obany> fine fine
[04:27] <djtrypt> good to hear
[04:28] <djtrypt> where u frum?
[04:28] <obany> Netherlands
[04:28] <djtrypt> kewl, i think ive talked to you b4 on IRC
[04:28] <djtrypt> a few months ago
[04:29] <obany> your nickname has something familair to me yes
[04:30] <obany> you where using the same nick back then ?
[04:30] <djtrypt> yeah
[04:30] <djtrypt> i am deejay trypt
[04:30] <djtrypt> and always will be
[04:30] <djtrypt> :-P
[04:30] <djtrypt> http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=obany+djtrypt
[04:31] <djtrypt> thats a couple convos we have had
[04:31] <djtrypt> =P
[04:31] <djtrypt> i have been trying to stay out of these chat rooms
[04:31] <djtrypt> i dont like my convo's being logged even though they always are no matter online or in person
[04:32] <obany> ah i see .. well yes they where logged, but it's only from the sessions
[04:33] <djtrypt> this shyt has been trippin me out latly
[04:34] <djtrypt> i wish i never knew about this
[04:34] <djtrypt> =/
[04:34] <djtrypt> im gonna check out some other rooms ttyl
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[04:36] <sonik> Theres a reason this channel is on Irc.FUN NET.org
[04:37] * Terminal waits for the joke
[04:37] <sonik> this is the joke
[04:37] <obany> it's just the name of  the network, i don't see it as a joke sonik
[04:37] <Terminal> so i figured
[04:38] <sonik> obany shutup, you get paid for sitting in here and chatting.
[04:38] <Terminal> it is fun in here, just not right now
[04:38] <sonik> the purpose of zetatalk.com is to sell books
[04:38] <obany> doh ...
[04:38] <obany> all the info is on the site itself...
[04:39] <sonik> yeah info with no supporting evidence
[04:39] <obany> the zetatalk book only contains a small part of the site
[04:39] <obany> sonik: get lost .. check the topic
[04:39] <sonik> obany shutup, you get paid for sitting in here and chatting.
[04:39] <sonik> YOU GET PAID
[04:39] <sonik> this is bullshit people
[04:39] <obany> who told you that?
[04:39] <sonik> don't let this women ruin your lives
[04:40] <sonik> as she already has ruined several peoples lives with this terrorism
[04:40] <sonik> hmm terrorism...thats a good idea
[04:40] <Terminal> sonik you are wasting your time here
[04:40] <sonik> maybe we can lock nancy up for terrorism under the new US Patriot Act
[04:40] <sonik> I'll look into that.
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[04:40] <Terminal> hehe
[04:40] <obany> sigh
[04:40] <obany> as if i am being paid for sitting here
[04:41] <Terminal> lol
[04:41] <obany> if that was the case, hence i would stop with the part time job i have
[04:42] <Terminal> i get paid for sitting here, just not for being in IRC :P
[04:50] <Terminal> later, i think i need some sleep :)
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[05:06] <tex-away> !down
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[05:11] <scooby> !down
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[05:11] <scooby> nite
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[05:11] <tex-away> nite
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[07:01] <swanny> anyone awake?
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[08:01] <stevie> hi everyone.....
[08:02] <stevie> anyone here
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[08:12] <zod_away> everyone asleep today
[08:12] <Dsarith> Looks like it :-)
[08:12] <zod_away> You are niw. Where in thr world are you
[08:12] <zod_away> I am in the UK
[08:13] <Dsarith> I have been here since December so pretty new :-)
[08:13] <Dsarith> Dallas Tx
[08:14] <zod_away> Dsarith.... have you listen to the early 1998 Nancy Zetatalk shows ?
[08:14] <zod_away> Some of them are quite revealing..especially when she took LIVE calls from the public
[08:15] <Dsarith> The only show I have heard was on CoasttoCoast
[08:15] <Dsarith> I have been here ever since :-)
[08:15] <zod_away> OK! I had uploaded to someone in the states earlier today. Would you like to hear one
[08:16] <Dsarith> Absolutley
[08:16] <Dsarith> Absolutely
[08:16] <Dsarith> :-)
[08:16] <zod_away> OK!  I will send one to you now
[08:16] <Dsarith> Cool
[08:17] <Dsarith> Got it
[08:17] <zod_away> It currrently waiting for you to accept the file
[08:17] <Dsarith> So how long have you been around
[08:17] <zod_away> I have another 4 early shows on a CD rom somewhere
[08:17] <zod_away> BY the way...you can listen to it, whilst it is being uploaded.
[08:18] <zod_away> I knew about zetatalk about 6 years ago  (estimate), left it for a while, and came back to it about 1.5 years ago
[08:19] <Dsarith> Wow, you have been around for awhile
[08:19] <zod_away> Still undecided as the FACT of the matter its too horrible to accept!
[08:19] <zod_away> Howver...I see more and more evidence for it to be real eacg day  (weather pattersn etc)
[08:25] <Dsarith> Sorry, got interupted
[08:25] <Dsarith> Yes, its hard to swallow, but you are correct that more and more evidence in weather indicates something is happen to the earth
[08:26] <zod_away> It all like science fiction.  However the evidence is mouting, and the time to face the familly and friends is now (no doubt some will think us NUTTS)
[08:27] <Dsarith> My family already thinks I am nuts so its ok...
[08:27] <zod_away> I have told my wife, and she gaze at me as if I am nuts.  However she is disturbed about the SWINGS and ROUNDabouts in the weather
[08:27] <Dsarith> Life goes on
[08:28] <Dsarith> Yep
[08:28] <zod_away> your family=hehehe
[08:28] <Dsarith> There is actually two questions each one of us has to ask
[08:28] <Dsarith> One is there going to be a poleshift
[08:28] <Dsarith> Second do we really want to live in the aftertime
[08:28] <zod_away> whwen you listen to some of the early shows, nancy reveals things about the caller that SHE could not possible know otherwise.  More evidence that whst she says is TRUE
[08:28] <Dsarith> Aftertime is going to suck
[08:29] <Dsarith> I will listen to it very shortly
[08:29] <Dsarith> I have headsets :-)
[08:29] <zod_away> Atertime will sucks.  What bothers me is the young children and babies who will be left behind.
[08:29] <zod_away> Who is gonna look after them...if their family get killed etc
[08:30] <Dsarith> True... I guess those who survive will have to take them in.
[08:30] <Dsarith> I told QV that I am going to have a harem kind of community... Lion Pride setup :-)
[08:30] <zod_away> I am prepared to deal with WHATEVER life dish at me.  However I pain when I see other in pain. For myself...I do not mind, beciase my mindset is that Once I accept something...it is no longer a burden  (if you gt what I mean)
[08:31] <zod_away> More files
[08:31] <Dsarith> Cool, got them going
[08:32] <zod_away> This show is more revealing. The earlier one I sent you mainly goes into Nancy history and her Contact. This ones has more callers, hence more varied answers
[08:33] <Dsarith> Did you find them to pretty consistant
[08:33] <zod_away> I did. even with todays news and current climate condition.
[08:34] <zod_away> The one you are listening to now, talks about Y2k crisis, and Nancy said it WILL be a NO-Event, and the establishment has used it to guage how people will respond to such a situation
[08:34] <zod_away> and the=and how the establishment
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[08:37] <islander> hello all
[08:38] <zod_away> Greetings Islander.  I am just uploadin some of Nacny earlier shows to peiple. Wnat some'
[08:38] <Dsarith> Hi Islander
[08:38] <zod_away> these are from 1998, 1999
[08:38] <Dsarith> Zod... I cant wait to listen tot them
[08:39] <zod_away> Let us know what you think.  I will send my email address in a separate window
[08:39] <islander> which part of Nancy?
[08:39] <zod_away> These shows were broadcast on Sigting/Rense show in 1998 and 1999
[08:40] <zod_away> check out the media link on zetatalk page
[08:40] <islander> Alredy been there
[08:42] <zod_away> The links for the rense/sighting shows do not work because the files were removed from the net
[08:42] <islander> trying to focus more to future right now and hard drives are getting fill
[08:42] <zod_away> Ok.  no problem
[08:42] <islander> full
[08:42] <islander> :)
[08:42] <zod_away> How long you been aware of zetatalk
[08:43] <islander> a few years ago I ran across the site while doing some research, got into depth about 2 years ago
[08:44] <zod_away> cool.  What percentage are you decedied about the PS
[08:44] <zod_away> I am 53% for 47%against...and the more is climbing futher
[08:45] <zod_away> Got to dash now .  Dinner is waiting
[08:46] <islander> if I take all the other research combined with Zetatalk a lot of the pieces fit
[08:46] <islander> and modern academia does not have the answers that satisfy my questions
[08:47] <zod_away> ok
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[08:47] <islander> talk to you later
[08:47] <Ogmios> hello
[08:47] <zod_away> I do find the historical section fascinating
[08:47] <islander> hello ogmios
[08:48] <islander> its all the holes in history that is fascinating
[08:48] <islander> and how one accepted theory completely contradict another
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[08:48] <islander> hi tied
[08:49] <tied2> hello
[08:49] <zod_away> I agree.  I wonder if the GOV will ever come CLEAN about history and Alien ..before the shift
[08:49] <tied2> I doubt it
[08:50] <zod_away> Currently have to watch movies like TAKEN to get  a sense of possible truth
[08:50] <zod_away> Got to go now. Wife is screaming for me to hgave my dinner. Be Back later
[08:50] <islander> much of the proof may not be in the hands of government, may be in private collections
[08:50] <islander> zod: go...eat...
[08:59] <Dsarith> Hi Tied :-)
[09:01] <tied2> HI
[09:01] <tied2> whats nude?
[09:01] <tied2> opps I mean new
[09:01] <Dsarith> lol
[09:01] <Dsarith> Notta
[09:01] <Dsarith> Did you review the images
[09:01] <tied2> I looked at them
[09:01] <tied2> what do you think
[09:01] <Dsarith> Did you delve into the discrepency that RMT was having
[09:02] <tied2> what Discrepency?
[09:02] <Dsarith> I am clueless and depend on all you to tell me what it looks like :-). However I know a little more today then I did before
[09:04] <Ogmios> stupid bush
[09:05] <Ogmios> he made some speech last night eh?
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[09:05] <islander> did you get to listen to it?
[09:05] <Ogmios> saw from news
[09:07] <Dsarith> He was you the program and on one of the frames it jumped from .00001 to 50
[09:07] <Ogmios> seems like american support their president..no matter how evil or stupid he is :(
[09:08] <Dsarith> Come on War is a necessary evil...
[09:08] <tied2> yes Dsarith I never did figure out why?
[09:08] <Dsarith> :-)
[09:09] <Dsarith> Besides with Poleshift happening it doesnt matter
[09:09] <Dsarith> Tied: Bummer
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[09:10] <Dsarith> Hi Trunks
[09:10] <Dsarith> Bye Trunks
[09:12] <Dsarith> Ogmios: I hope I didnt offend you
[09:13] <Ogmios> naah..black sabbath's war pigs has good lyrics btw
[09:14] <Dsarith> Good :-)
[09:15] <Ogmios> http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Surf/4236/warpigs.htm
[09:16] <Ogmios> was recorded during vietnam war..
[09:17] <Dsarith> That is actually pretty good
[09:17] <Dsarith> I like it
[09:18] <Dsarith> But it to some classical music and you have a great song :-)
[09:19] <Ogmios> :)
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[09:24] <Dsarith> Hi QV
[09:24] <QueenVee> good day
[09:24] <Dsarith> How is your life today?
[09:24] <QueenVee> well, had a frustrating time with the hound today...
[09:24] <Dsarith> In what way
[09:24] <QueenVee> he was good as gold, and then badly misbehaved when we met up with another dog
[09:25] <Dsarith> Of course you know your hound says the same thing about you to his friends.
[09:25] <QueenVee> he and the other dog went off hunting together and wouldn't come back....
[09:25] <QueenVee> lol
[09:25] <QueenVee> i take it so personally when he does that
[09:26] <QueenVee> so he's been "in the dog house" this morning
[09:26] <Dsarith> He was born to hunt and so dont take it too personally, he still loves you
[09:27] <QueenVee> yeah, i know....
[09:27] <QueenVee> but i was hungry and wanted my breakfast
[09:27] <Dsarith> How did you get him back
[09:27] <Ogmios> hi victoria
[09:27] <QueenVee> hey ogmios
[09:28] <QueenVee> oh, he eventually came back on his own, i've learned there's nothing that can get him back when he's determined to track
[09:28] <Dsarith> Hmmmph, just like any other male of any other species
[09:29] <QueenVee> i took Dave7's advice (him of the 7-dog pack) and spoke very sternly to him and bit him gently on the nose for it...
[09:29] <Dsarith> :-)
[09:29] <QueenVee> he was quite shocked by that
[09:29] <QueenVee> and extremely docile and submissive after that
[09:29] <Dsarith> Dont you wish you can do that to men and we respond like that :-)
[09:30] <QueenVee> most men would find it a turn-on...
[09:30] <Dsarith> Your cousin just tells them to save their breath for their blow doll... lol
[09:30] <Dsarith> True QV, so very true
[09:30] <QueenVee> it would be "oh, do that again..."
[09:31] <Dsarith> Yes, and can you wear this outfit when you are doing that
[09:31] <QueenVee> lol
[09:31] <QueenVee> and put this dog collar on me...
[09:31] <Dsarith> lol
[09:31] <Dsarith> We are so sad
[09:32] <QueenVee> hehe
[09:32] <Dsarith> Anything happening in the news today
[09:32] <QueenVee> just got online, and haven't checked yet.... going to do that now....
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[09:36] <QueenVee> mmmm, there's been bad storms and flooding in Greece, two children were drowned when a huge wave washed away the car they were riding in....
[09:36] <Hillel> Hi!
[09:36] <QueenVee> hello Hillel
[09:36] <Dsarith> Hi Hillel
[09:36] <Hillel> I have just seen a UFO, i think
[09:37] <Dsarith> Man! I want to see a UFO
[09:37] <Hillel> i have never seen before
[09:37] <QueenVee> 20 people killed in a landslide in Indonesia
[09:38] <Dsarith> You have seen a UFO that you never seen before? Or a UFO and you have never seen one before :-)
[09:38] <Dsarith> Do you see UFOs alot?
[09:38] <Dsarith> :-)
[09:38] <Hillel> :)))
[09:39] <Hillel> I have never seen any UFO-s in my f***ing life :)))
[09:39] <Dsarith> lol
[09:39] <Hillel> except the one today
[09:39] <Dsarith> Well, I would say that clears it up
[09:41] <Cruithne> <Hillel> i have seen ufos
[09:41] <Hillel> Cru: When and where?
[09:41] <Cruithne> years ago
[09:42] <Hillel> how did you know that it was a ufo?
[09:42] <Cruithne> it was very simialr to the 1 john lennon describes on his album
[09:42] <Dsarith> Cruithne is our staff alcholic so he has seen pink elephants too :-)
[09:42] <Dsarith> Just kidding
[09:42] <Cruithne> it was low , slow moving so i could watch it
[09:43] <Hillel> Dsarith: its ok i believe in pink elefants too :)))
[09:43] <Dsarith> lol
[09:43] <Dsarith> Hey, if its up in the air and flying, I believe in them
[09:43] <Cruithne> what was weird was when i went several miles from the first spot into another town i either saw another just likwe it or it was the same
[09:44] <Cruithne> i think it was same
[09:44] <Dsarith> What town was it in Crue
[09:44] <Cruithne> yonkers
[09:44] <Dsarith> Ok what country :-)
[09:44] <Cruithne> ny
[09:44] <Dsarith> Oh ... lol I suck on geography
[09:45] <Dsarith> I always wanted to go to Nevada
[09:45] <Cruithne> i since have wondered if i have been tagged
[09:45] <Dsarith> Or New Mexico to see if I can see a UFO
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[09:46] <Dsarith> I always wanted to be abducted, take over the spaceship and ride around in space for awhile
[09:48] * Dsarith is now known as Dsarith-away
[09:48] <Hillel_eat> ... and the spaceship will even find out your wishes...
[09:50] <Cruithne> then it must know that i wanna be world leader
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[10:06] <QueenVee> hi scooby
[10:08] <obaway> hell o
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[10:10] <Dsarith-away> Hell o to you Obany
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[10:12] <Ogmios> hi obany
[10:16] <obaway> sigh someoen did a cross posting to tt-forum, tt-watch, tt-welcome and tt-social
[10:16] <obaway> about meditation or so
[10:16] <obaway> the consciousness and the
[10:16] <obaway> amount of people choosing the 4th dimension can and will
[10:16] <obaway> affect the events in the 3rd dimension. They can minimize the
[10:16] <obaway> effects of the coming pole shift and other threats
[10:16] <obaway> by the level of compassion they achieve.
[10:17] <obaway> ooh sigh
[10:17] <obaway> it's from that Niburian council crap
[10:19] <islander> Ms Star again?
[10:20] <islander> even if the leader changed her mind, would her followers?
[10:20] <obaway> Renate Heygster <renate@tenting-hostels.com>
[10:23] <tied2> don't you all know you ARE creators?
[10:24] <tied2> there is a differance between minimizing the casue and the effect
[10:25] * QueenVee sighs along with obany
[10:25] <tied2> so minimizing the effect would be like  out of love caring for others andpossably saving lives
[10:25] <Hillel> bye
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[10:30] <tied2> so in effect the Zetas are out of the 4th den. makeing a change in the 3rd den buy making us a ware of the comming PS not tring to change the cause but tring to minamize the effect of it  thru knowledge.
[10:31] <QueenVee> tied2: that's not what these people are talking about
[10:31] <tied2> you may missunderstand it
[10:32] <QueenVee> and if it IS what they're talking about, they're being so mumbo-jumbo about it that they're creating the wrong impression
[10:32] <QueenVee> that there is no necessity to prepare -- and help others to prepare
[10:32] <QueenVee> and that's irresponsible
[10:32] <QueenVee> that kind of message appeals to escapists
[10:33] <tied2> many time people get a message and don't understan it them selves  putting there own twist on it
[10:33] <QueenVee> add to that the fact that Ms. Star makes you PAY MONEY to find out how you can learn the secrets of "raising your vibration"....
[10:33] <tied2> lol
[10:34] <QueenVee> and you've got a message specifically targeted towards those who don't want to face reality, and think they can buy their way out of it
[10:35] <QueenVee> give me the straightforward zeta message any day: "Hey people, there's a poleshift coming, get off your butts and help yourself and others get through it...."
[10:38] <QueenVee> Some excellent advice from a Hopi Elder: " Four easy steps to surviving the earth changes and all the prophecies. Keep your eyes open. Let go of fear. Learn all you can. Live your spirituality...."
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[10:40] <QueenVee> hey tex
[10:40] <tex-at-work> hi QV
[10:40] <tex-at-work> how are you today
[10:40] <Cruithne> Qv there was another rumble sound in sc on friday
[10:40] <QueenVee> i'm good
[10:40] <Cruithne> http://www.islandpacket.com/news/local/story/2131260p-2026900c.html
[10:42] <QueenVee> Thanks for that, Cruithne!
[10:46] <Cruithne> the 5.6 quake66
[10:46] <QueenVee> where, druithne?
[10:47] <Cruithne> the 5.6 quake that hit wellington nz mag was not listed on the neic.usgs.gov site
[10:47] <Cruithne> on 26 January 2003
[10:49] <tied2> have anyof you ever heard a sonic boom?
[10:49] <QueenVee> where did you hear that there was a 5.6 quake in NZ on Jan.26?
[10:50] <QueenVee> tied: no, not me
[10:50] <Cruithne> yes i grew up with them constantly being near shaw air force base
[10:50] <tied2> I live right next to aairforce base I have heard them
[10:50] <Cruithne> http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/default.asp?id=28252&c=w
[10:51] <tied2> there outlawed supposedly in the US
[10:51] <Cruithne> the neic.usgs.gov site list it but not it's mag
[10:52] <Cruithne> when sonic booms r outlawed only jet pilots will be free
[10:53] <QueenVee> Cruithne: mmm, that quake was not reported on the EMSC site either.... weird....
[10:54] <Cruithne> i was at http://www.seismo-watch.com/ & saw info on it
[10:56] <QueenVee> excellent site, thank you
[11:04] * juditness is back.. omfg i am so exhausted =/ [been gone for: 11hrs 57mins 5secs] at 20:03:50
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[11:07] <scooby-afk> !down
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[11:09] * obaway did send an email to tt-social
[11:10] <obaway> started with
[11:10] <obaway> Please bare in mind that Troubled Times is based on the 2003 premise,
[11:10] <obaway> that there will be cataclysms in may of this year.
[11:10] <obaway> Troubled Times is NOT based on the Nibiruan Council info nor should the
[11:10] <obaway> lists be used as a way to spread the info from that site.
[11:10] <obaway> okay back later
[11:11] <QueenVee> good
[11:12] <islander> seems to be a lot of individuals in tt groups that do not follow the PX message
[11:13] <QueenVee> yeah, weird
[11:14] <QueenVee> how are things on the island today?
[11:14] <islander> I thought about surveying the daily pposts and categorizing them and comparing the percentage results
[11:14] <islander> maybe theres a pattern as PX approaches
[11:14] <QueenVee> mmm, interesting
[11:15] <islander> :/
[11:15] <islander> what categories would there be?
[11:15] <islander> watching for indicators 1
[11:15] <islander> preparing for shift 2
[11:15] <islander> reasons not to have a shift 3
[11:15] <islander> debunker 4
[11:16] <islander> other messages 5
[11:16] <QueenVee> how to avoid a shift
[11:16] <islander>  any more?
[11:16] <islander> okay
[11:16] <QueenVee> you can perhaps lump that in with reasons not to have a shift
[11:16] <QueenVee> reasons not to have a shift/how to avoid a shift
[11:17] <islander> we'll call it I don't believe it
[11:17] <QueenVee> how about "I Don't Believe It And Neither Should You"....
[11:17] <islander> but a special one is It's not really a shift
[11:18] <QueenVee> ?
[11:18] <islander> that's good
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[11:18] <QueenVee> there's one more catagory: Personal Soapbox Messages Completely Unrelated to the Poleshift
[11:18] <islander> the survey will be called the troubled times watch watch
[11:19] <QueenVee> very good
[11:19] <QueenVee> hi humvee
[11:20] <humvee> HELLO QV - btw i registered my mirc last nite
[11:20] <islander> are debunks in neither should you?
[11:21] <QueenVee> OKAY, HERE'S HOW I WOULD ORGANIZE IT: 1. Signs and Indications of a Possible Poleshift; 2. Preparation for a Possible Poleshift; 3. I Don't Believe It and Neither Should You; 4. Personal Soapbox Messages Unrelated to the Poleshift; 5. Other
[11:21] <QueenVee> humvee: excellent!
[11:21] <humvee> ty :-)
[11:21] <QueenVee> humvee: okay, so do you know how to authenticate yourself when you log on?
[11:22] <humvee> no
[11:22] <QueenVee> okay, do you remember your password?
[11:22] <humvee> think so
[11:22] <QueenVee> well, it's pointless to register if you can't remember your password -- you need that in order to do anything
[11:23] <humvee> i only use 2 so shud not b a problem
[11:23] <QueenVee> okay, then here's what you do to authenticate:
[11:24] <QueenVee> type and post the following:  /msg nickserv auth PASSWORD
[11:24] <QueenVee> inserting your password where it says PASSWORD
[11:24] <humvee> pk
[11:24] <humvee> ok
[11:24] <QueenVee> done?
[11:24] <humvee> will do now
[11:25] * QueenVee whistles while humvee authenticates....
[11:26] * QueenVee taps her fingers on the keyboard, wondering what is taking so long....
[11:26] * islander thinks he has a slow mouse
[11:26] * QueenVee thinks that humvee has probably forgotten his password
[11:26] <humvee> ops y did not work?
[11:26] <QueenVee> what did you do and what happened?
[11:27] * tex-at-work smiles
[11:27] <humvee> typed </msg nickserv auth PASSWORD>
[11:27] <QueenVee> and then?
[11:27] <QueenVee> did you get a message back?
[11:27] <humvee> the msg appeared
[11:28] <QueenVee> did you get a message saying "i recognize you
[11:28] <humvee> said *nickserv* auth xxxx
[11:28] <humvee> no
[11:28] <QueenVee> sounds like you didn't use the right password
[11:29] <humvee> cud be these r only ones uesed
[11:29] <humvee> i can go n change my pw?
[11:29] <islander> nickserv is slow today, check back on screen to see if there is another message
[11:29] <QueenVee> okay, what did you do to register an account?
[11:30] <humvee> registered on www.mirc.com web site got confirm email
[11:30] <QueenVee> with a cookie?
[11:30] <humvee> ?
[11:30] <humvee> looking
[11:30] <QueenVee> tell me what the email said
[11:32] <humvee> said it put me on mailing list - so i guess not confirmed yet  ( it did tas\ke my $ ok)
[11:32] <QueenVee> MONEY????
[11:33] <humvee> (paid by credit card) maybe hav 2 wait or go back n check ltr
[11:33] <QueenVee> okay, i have no idea what registration you're talking about
[11:33] <QueenVee> you do NOT have to pay money to register
[11:34] <humvee> islander said to goto mirc site 2 reg which i did
[11:34] <QueenVee> what is it you're supposed to get in return for this registration?
[11:34] <humvee> the mirc = 30 days is shareware then u register it if u want 2 keep it
[11:35] <humvee> honor sys
[11:35] <humvee> if there i s another way i can just do that to
[11:37] <QueenVee> OH!!!!
[11:37] <humvee> hav mirc ver 6.03
[11:37] <QueenVee> humvee: you weren't using MIRC before?
[11:37] <QueenVee> you were connecting here via the internet?
[11:37] <humvee> yes am and was using unlic ver
[11:38] <QueenVee> yeah, well, so am i
[11:38] <humvee> no have mirc on comp
[11:38] <QueenVee> they tell you that you have to register it within 30 days, but you don't really
[11:38] <humvee> there is a reg box here but went to site
[11:38] <QueenVee> i got mine over a year ago and i've never registered it
[11:39] <humvee> i know was doing bec is inexp n want 2 reg for thic chat room
[11:39] <QueenVee> so what made you decide you needed to register it all of a sudden?
[11:39] <QueenVee> okay, well, you didn't need to do that in order to register an account with funnet (and therefore become an operator here)
[11:39] <QueenVee> you thought you needed to do that before i could make you an operator?
[11:40] <humvee> yesterday ur post said if i reg u would not hav 2 reop me when my isp droped me off n i returned
[11:40] <QueenVee> humvee: yeah, and i meant register with funnet.org, and i offered to walk you through it
[11:41] <QueenVee> remember?
[11:41] <humvee> oh ok np they can use the few $ anyway prob
[11:41] <QueenVee> okay, well, can i walk you through the funnet.org registration process now? (there's no money involved)
[11:41] <humvee> only rem reg thing sorry  how 2 do funet reg?
[11:41] <humvee> ok
[11:41] <QueenVee> okay, we'll do it on a private channel, hold on....
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[12:03] <Aaaaa> hi
[12:03] <islander> hi Aaaaa
[12:03] <Aaaaa> how goes it?
[12:04] <QueenVee> hello Aaaaa
[12:04] <Aaaaa> hi Queen
[12:05] <Aaaaa> my lunch...quiet here?
[12:05] <QueenVee> yep
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[12:06] <QueenVee> hello zod
[12:06] <zod_away> Hi Queen
[12:07] <zod_away> How you doing these days
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[12:07] <QueenVee> pretty good -- you?
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[12:07] <zod> Getting uneasy as the days marcges on
[12:08] <Shaman464> Hi all!
[12:08] <QueenVee> yes, i feel a bit on edge myself
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[12:09] <zod> My house is "Dark" at present, as  I am concerned about PS< and trying to live a "normal" life as well.
[12:09] <zod> Wondering when to pull up roots and get mobile :)
[12:09] <QueenVee> what do you mean your house is "Dark"?
[12:10] <zod> The mood in the house. everyone at each other throats :)
[12:10] <QueenVee> ah, i see
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[12:13] <Shaman464> hi again
[12:13] <monk> hi
[12:13] <QueenVee> hello monk
[12:14] <monk> hello queen
[12:15] <monk> how are things
[12:17] <Shaman464> a guy on Coast to coast am is gunna talk about PX
[12:18] <QueenVee> a guy?
[12:18] <Shaman464> the guest
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[12:18] <QueenVee> does he have a name?
[12:18] <Shaman464> not that i know of
[12:18] <Cruithne> is it free to listen
[12:19] <Shaman464> just some random guy
[12:19] <Shaman464> i think they call him Henry willams
[12:19] <Shaman464> williams*
[12:20] <QueenVee> do you have a link to the page where they announce his appearance?
[12:21] <Shaman464> www.coasttocoastam.com
[12:22] <Shaman464> Willam Henry*
[12:23] <tied2> I tried to listen to c to c with a old artbell link and it didn't work
[12:23] <tied2> I think www.lateniteradio.com
[12:24] <islander> has anybody received their art bell disks yet?
[12:24] <Shaman464> Cruithne where do you hale form?
[12:24] <Cruithne> what
[12:24] <Shaman464> come form
[12:24] <Cruithne> nyc
[12:25] <Cruithne> da bronx
[12:25] <Shaman464> am 770\
[12:25] <Shaman464> for you
[12:25] <Cruithne> nope 99.5 on the fm dial for me
[12:25] <Shaman464> ok
[12:26] <tied2> is there a freq. map some where?
[12:26] <Shaman464> yes
[12:26] <Cruithne> & fordam university 90.7 FM
[12:26] <tied2> where
[12:27] <Cruithne> late nite  new sounds
[12:27] <Shaman464> http://www.coasttocoastam.com/info/wheretolisten.html
[12:27] <tied2> kewl
[12:27] <Cruithne> <Shaman464> o/k i get it now ,thanks
[12:28] <Cruithne> didn't know
[12:28] <Shaman464> yeap
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[12:30] <Shaman464> whats the good word Hum?
[12:33] <zod> I used to be able to listen to coastocoastam on the internet for free on www.lateniteradio.com.  The player does not load anymore on my pc. not use if its my pc or the site
[12:33] <humvee> hi Shaman464 just on m,y way to work lots of sunshine here(Kauai) today bye 4 now
[12:33] <tied2> ziod I think there site because I have the same trouble
[12:33] <tied2> zod
[12:34] <zod> ok. Thanks
[12:34] <humvee> bye qv bbltr bye
[12:34] <zod> Do you know anywhere else I can listen tom it
[12:34] <zod> tom=to
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[12:34] <Shaman464> where do you live?
[12:34] <zod> who me ?
[12:34] <Shaman464> yeap
[12:35] <zod> London
[12:35] <Shaman464> England or canada?
[12:35] <zod> My radio atenal is not long enoght (England)
[12:35] <zod> :)
[12:35] <Shaman464> ok
[12:36] <zod> Goto go and see to the kids. Be back later
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[12:36] <Shaman464> bye
[12:37] <Shaman464> i g2g all, i feel really sick bye
[12:37] <Aaaaa> bye
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[13:12] <islander> off to work for a bit, bbl
[13:13] <islander> bye
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[13:26] <iskatel> Anybody speak RUSSIAN ?
[13:27] <iskatel> Chuvaki ?
[13:28] <iskatel> Hey guys, are Nibiru is already visible in night sky without telescope ?
[13:29] <iskatel> guys, wake up
[13:29] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> come back later
[13:29] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> nobody's home
[13:30] <iskatel> why ?
[13:30] <iskatel> oh i see
[13:30] <iskatel> It's probably night in USA now ?
[13:30] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> late afternoon
[13:31] <iskatel> umm.. ok.. how do you think all it's crash in may 2003 as Nancy said ?
[13:32] <iskatel> It's hard to believe, i'm only 24 and i can't understand thing that maybe in May of this year i can die or my family can die.. it's bad news
[13:32] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> in the meanwhile read this paper carefully and don't dismiss it until you have --- http://www.barry.warmkessel.com/barry/1997Paper.html#ASTROLOGICAL
[13:32] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> you're welcome
[13:33] <iskatel> Ok, thanks friend, i will try to read it
[13:33] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> later
[13:34] <iskatel> am looking now
[13:34] <iskatel> I live in Ukraine :-)
[13:35] <iskatel> It's like a scientific site.. kool
[13:36] <iskatel> I believe that Aliens is exists, at this summer i saw "funny star" in night sky.. it's probably were UFO
[13:37] <iskatel> Did you heared about Soho scientific satellite that taken a deep space photos ?
[13:38] <iskatel> I were read in news a few days ago, that this satellite taked photos of few UFO's that were even not in our solar system.. and fuck%g NASA can't to comment it again.. dumbass idiots
[13:39] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> read the paper, it won't be easy.
[13:40] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> but you will find it interesting.
[13:40] <iskatel> Look are Nibiru it's Vukcans Aphelion, it's one and same ?
[13:41] <iskatel> Could you explain little bit.. i'm not that much good in English :-(
[13:45] <iskatel> ?
[13:49] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> still reading it myself -- I understand your language problem, however; spent 30 days in CCCP in 1967. 1 day in Kiev, Babby Yar, and the catacombs.
[13:51] <iskatel> Yes, i know about Babyj Yar, it's place from former war with Germany..
[13:51] <iskatel> How do you think Bush will start the war ?
[13:53] <iskatel> I heared in news that Russian vice-speaker Zherinovsky, said that Bush are "crap cowboy", and if he will touch Iraq Russia will beat America
[14:01] <[Greg-AC-NJ]> could be, it should have dramatic repercussions whatever happens
[14:06] <iskatel> Then why USA folk just not stop the crazy president ?
[14:09] <Dsarith> Well, although I agree that the US shouldnt get involved. I do think the regime in IRAQ needs to be ousted. Somebody has to do it. In my opinion, I say let the middle east take care of their own problems
[14:09] <Dsarith> It doesnt work like that over here. You can just stop the president. You have to vote him out
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[14:11] <iskatel> Yes, i know things like this, peoples simply too busy by own everyday life.. but when they all wake up it's can be already too late.. like it's were with USSR.. our government were cheat us very much, and all we were like deaf and blind sheeps.. but when we all waked up, we were see that our country is not exists anymore..... and after this life becomed like a nightmare, many years passed but we still in much bad situation.
[14:12] <Dsarith> I agree with you on that too. Like your country and this country all empires fall sooner or later
[14:12] <Dsarith> US is acting like the policemen of the world and thats just insane.
[14:12] <iskatel> No one lives forever though
[14:12] <Dsarith> Exactly
[14:13] <Dsarith> US will fall by our own government some day
[14:13] <iskatel> I think Bush need to seek Bin Laden who enemy #1 but not Iraq
[14:13] <iskatel> Btw what do you think about poleshift ?
[14:13] <Dsarith> I havent figured out why he is so dead set on Iraq
[14:14] <iskatel> Oil probably
[14:14] <Dsarith> I think it will happen, weird weather patterns are all over the place.
[14:14] <Dsarith> I am guessing oil, but only 2 percent of oil comes from IRAQ so whats the point
[14:14] <iskatel> Yes, flood in Europe it's really make me feel agree with you
[14:15] <Dsarith> The best thing to do is to have a plan
[14:15] <Dsarith> Find a safe place to go
[14:15] <iskatel> maybe Iraq is safe place after cataclysm, and Bush want to base own army here ?
[14:15] <iskatel> I have plan :-)
[14:15] <Dsarith> Maybe... anything is possible
[14:15] <Dsarith> Good for you
[14:16] <Dsarith> Do you have family or friends to be with
[14:16] <iskatel> I live in Ukraine, and i will need a boat after the cataclysm that leave flood places
[14:16] <iskatel> I have a wife..
[14:16] <iskatel> And her parents is my family, i have no own parents
[14:17] <iskatel> Also i know how to survival in extreme situation
[14:17] <iskatel> So if Lord let me live, i will not lost
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[14:18] <iskatel> Dsarith - Does Nibiru planet is already visible on night sky without telescope ?
[14:18] <Dsarith> WB QV
[14:18] <QueenVee> iskatel: no, not until the end of March
[14:18] <QueenVee> hey
[14:19] <Dsarith> Iskatel: QV is all knowing :-)
[14:19] <obany> Iskatel no not yet : iskatel check http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t157.htm
[14:20] <QueenVee> iskatel: so, what are you doing to prepare for the coming poleshift?
[14:20] <obany> Dsarith: i mean  of course
[14:20] <obany> so if you can get to a scope if you can get to a observatory if you can make pictures ... if you have a website then use it  you know
[14:21] <obany> Planet X is in the sky
[14:25] <iskatel> But we must stay away from other people.. who can spoil the idea
[14:25] <QueenVee> ?
[14:25] <QueenVee> what do you mean?
[14:26] <Dsarith> Iskatel: People in Ukraine?
[14:27] <QueenVee> what "idea" do you mean -- and how can other people "spoil it"?
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[14:28] <iskatel> QueenVee, well i have not that much money for preparations, so i don't build any bunker, i will buy a good boat soon and if our country will flood we will try to escape, now i just have 2 rucksack's with minimum kit necessary belongings, and i have faith that
[14:29] <iskatel> --> maybe after poleshif we will be able to build more harmonious society than now
[14:29] <iskatel> I'm sorry my english is slow, so it's will take some time while i send my answer.. sorry
[14:29] <QueenVee> yes, that is the hope
[14:29] <QueenVee> no problem, you are doing very well
[14:29] <Dsarith> Yes you are Iskatel
[14:30] <QueenVee> You speak English better than we speak Ukrainian
[14:31] <QueenVee> ;-)
[14:31] <iskatel> QueenVee do you know why Moses were to walk with own folk 40 years by the desert ?
[14:31] <iskatel> :-)
[14:32] <QueenVee> well, according to ZetaTalk, because of the poleshift....
[14:35] <iskatel> He done it for next purpose, that one generation of people is changed on other generation who
[14:36] <iskatel> ------> were not "slaves" in mind.. If i will survival i will not unite with any other people groups, because i'm not sure
[14:36] <iskatel> ------> that i will find people society who been to consist on 100% serving for other orientation people. I mean if someone in society is serving for yourself he/she/they can to spoil all idea, because by own example will gave bad example for young generation
[14:37] <QueenVee> i see, i understand now
[14:37] <iskatel> ok
[14:44] <iskatel> And unfortunately this world have very small % of really good people.. who ready "love neighbor as yourself", at real life the people is usually willing to be good when it's cost them nothing personally.. but when it's expects something to do for someone other.. they prefer to be theoretics than practic's
[14:44] <QueenVee> oh, yes, that is very true
[14:44] <QueenVee> people reveal their true natures in a crisis situation
[14:45] <QueenVee> in difficult situations
[14:45] <QueenVee> that is why the poleshift will really reveal people for who they are
[14:46] <iskatel> I agree with you, anyway time will show
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[14:52] <reticuli> hi y'all
[14:53] <Dsarith> HI Ret
[14:53] <iskatel> Hi Reticuli
[14:53] <QueenVee> well, i have to go to the pet's store now...
[14:53] <QueenVee> be back later
[14:53] * juditness is away.. zuhahahahah... good nęght oke pLs ::::::)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) [mail: judit@geekychick.org] at 23:53:09
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[14:53] <reticuli> hello, what does iskatel mean?
[14:54] <iskatel> Look on whole chat story, then you will understand
[14:54] <reticuli> whats the whole chat story?
[14:54] <iskatel> My previous answers
[14:55] <reticuli> uhhm, i cant see them, i just arrived
[14:56] <Dsarith> Iskatel is new and his from Ukraine
[14:58] <iskatel> Ok.. I mean i have boat, that can take up only 8 people aboard. And when i will to escape from flooded region, i will see many peoples who in water and they will ask me to save them.. but i can't  take more than 8 people aboard otherwise the boat will crash.. so what i need to do ? i have no the answer.. and it's make me feel bad :-(
[14:59] <Dsarith> That is a hard situation Iska I suppose we will all face that situation
[14:59] <Dsarith> In your case, its a simple physic issue.
[15:00] <Dsarith> You have to survive and can only hold 8
[15:00] <Dsarith> Not much you can do
[15:00] <reticuli> iskatel, well if you dont have room you dont have room
[15:00] <reticuli> no big deal
[15:01] <reticuli> I think the floods will be violent enought that you may not see anyone
[15:01] <reticuli> they will be dead quickly
[15:03] <iskatel> I better be die than kick by oar people who will trying to come up on aboard of my boat .. i can understand them, it's question of survival.. But what about other 7 people, i will be feel responsiblity for their lifes
[15:04] <reticuli> you are making an issue out of nothing I think, there wont be people in the water, they will drown or be crushed in a matter of seconds, we are talking about the earth tipping on its access, this will be no regular flood,. You'll be lucky if your boat doesnt sink right away
[15:05] <reticuli> access = axis :)
[15:05] <iskatel> Or other situation, someone will be attack our camp, but i can't kill any human.. all humans, even most bad people have something good sides in themselfs.. and i must be kill them ? It's parannoya :-(
[15:06] <reticuli> i guess so
[15:06] <reticuli> better stock up on some drugs for your nerves :)
[15:06] <iskatel> Are i will be Serving for others if on my hands will be blood of other human, i better let them kill me
[15:07] <Dsarith> Not sure I accept that
[15:07] <reticuli> yeah, at least your corpse could provide food for them
[15:07] <iskatel> My nerves is Ok, it's not question of nerves it's question about elementary human feelings
[15:07] <Dsarith> I think you should defend yourself and your family
[15:07] <reticuli> whats the big deal about death, its the other side of life, you cant have one without the other
[15:08] <iskatel> But if i kill someone it's already  way that to lose the "HUMAN FACE"
[15:08] <Dsarith> Yes, but in a case where you must be the defenders of a family, its more than your life at stake.
[15:08] <Dsarith> Death does not scare me at all
[15:08] <reticuli> huh?
[15:09] <iskatel> Yes, my death will not scarry me, but murder it's scarry
[15:09] <reticuli> not all murder is the same
[15:10] <reticuli> we are animals, get over yourself
[15:10] <iskatel> By this reasons we still have wars, people think we kill "bad people" and by this way we do good
[15:10] <reticuli> nah, thats just propaganda, people that believe that are naive
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[15:11] <Ogmios> europeans think americans are quite naive in general
[15:11] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[15:11] <reticuli> so let me get this straight boatman... you think that someone who rapes and murders babies is just as morally culpable as the man who kills the child rapist/murderer?
[15:11] <Dsarith> I am not sure I wouldnt disagree and I am one :-)
[15:12] <reticuli> americans are undereducated ogmios
[15:12] <iskatel> But between "bad" and "good" we have very thin border.. I think no one have no rights to kill anyone by the any reasons or purposes..
[15:12] <reticuli> so let me get this straight boatman... you think that someone who rapes and murders babies is just as morally culpable as the man who kills the child rapist/murderer?
[15:12] <iskatel> We don't created the life and we have no rights to judge who must to live and who must to die
[15:13] <reticuli> its not about judging
[15:13] <reticuli> its about defending yourself
[15:13] <Dsarith> Its a very nobel approach to human life
[15:14] <reticuli> a "judge" is an impartial party, when you are defending yourself you are very unpartial
[15:14] <Dsarith> But reality is that there are bad people in this world
[15:14] <reticuli> excuse me, you are very partial
[15:14] <reticuli> I hope ypu dont have a family iskatel?
[15:14] <iskatel> Ok.. look.. someone attack me, so i must kill him that save myself ? Are i better than it's human who attack me.. No.. We all alike in the Lord eyes.
[15:15] <iskatel> I have fmily
[15:15] <iskatel> I have a wife, and her parents is my family too
[15:15] <reticuli> i"ll say a prayer for them, they'll need it
[15:15] <reticuli> iskatel, no you dont have to kill them, but you will die if you dont
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[15:16] <reticuli> up to you i guess, its your life,,,, but what if its your child is being attacked, r u comfortable resting on marality as they are being murdered
[15:16] <Dsarith> Ret: Not taking a life is Noble. Nothing wrong with it. In a situation of choas its just a bad approach for survival
[15:17] <Ogmios> do americans think iraqi civilians when they want war
[15:17] <reticuli> allowing your family to be murdered is not noble
[15:17] <reticuli> ogmios, what is your point?
[15:17] <Ogmios> do american media even mention them
[15:17] <iskatel> I better die.. Lord will understand me.. But if this hypothetical attacker kill me then no one not protect my family and this attacker kill them too.. It's mean the situation where is no any alternative.. I can't kill and i can't allow that someone kill my family..
[15:17] <reticuli> yes
[15:17] <reticuli> god is compassionate
[15:18] <Dsarith> The principle behind taking not taking life is noble. I would defend by force when required
[15:18] <Dsarith> There is a time to kill
[15:18] <reticuli> yep
[15:18] <Dsarith> Killing and murdering is not the same
[15:18] <Dsarith> Killing is defensive
[15:18] <Dsarith> Murdering is planned
[15:18] <Ogmios> modern time crusaders
[15:19] <Dsarith> Omigos: When civilians are in war, they need to get out of the way or they can be hurt
[15:19] <iskatel> O Dsarith, what will you say if someone will see any dangerous in you for own family and will kill you ?
[15:19] <reticuli> and ogmios, most americans do think of Iraqi civilians, not enough theough, and anyway the US is not a democracy so dont blame the US population for Bushes policies. THE American public did not elect him and he is sustained in power by a corporate controlled media and a growing police state apparatus
[15:19] <Dsarith> If their govt are preventing them from leaving sounds like they got a govt problem
[15:19] <Ogmios> iraqis flee to iran and neighboring countries
[15:19] <Ogmios> then its their problem
[15:20] <reticuli> hopefully they will fight to the death
[15:20] <iskatel> Bush are "crap cowboy"
[15:20] <reticuli> lol
[15:20] <reticuli> no, ogmios, bush is not just our problem
[15:21] <iskatel> Bush it's problem of all the world
[15:21] <Dsarith> Its simple people. War is necessary because without it this world would be overcrowded everywhere not just in china
[15:21] <Dsarith> :-)
[15:21] <reticuli> dsarith, people overpoulate as a result of poverty and war
[15:21] <Ogmios> we need ww3 then
[15:21] <reticuli> dont worry, you'll get it
[15:22] <Dsarith> No but I dont think we are going to stop it from happening. People have been in wars since time has begun.
[15:22] <Dsarith> There is no such thing as world peace
[15:22] <Ogmios> ww2 doesnt helped much
[15:22] <Dsarith> Green peace
[15:22] <reticuli> war is cuturally specific, it can take many less invasive form
[15:22] <Dsarith> Or any other kind of peace
[15:22] <Ogmios> baby boom after the war
[15:23] <Dsarith> Yes they do
[15:23] <Dsarith> However, it offsets what is lost
[15:23] <iskatel> Ok Dsarith, then kill yourself, that not overcrowed the world.. It's easy to reason about things like this when it's not touch you personally.. but what if someone kill your family with purpose that your family is overcrowed this world.. We always forged that other humans also have names and familyes and own dreams and other .. war is a crime against life
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[15:24] <Dsarith> Someone kills my family I will hunt them down
[15:24] <reticuli> CAPITALISM DEPENDS ON WAR
[15:24] <reticuli> me too dsarith
[15:24] <Dsarith> I am not suggesting war is a good thing... just a necessary thing
[15:24] <Dsarith> Necessary evil
[15:24] <reticuli> why?
[15:24] <Ogmios> finland we have low birth rates..they say we need more babies becouse so much old ppl..who die and then lack of working ppl
[15:25] <Dsarith> Until we actually start populating other planets
[15:25] <reticuli> like I said people overpoulate because of war and poverty, not teh other way around
[15:25] <Dsarith> Lets say they find the cure for Cancer
[15:26] <iskatel> If take all money that go to war financing, and put it on peace way, then no one not be starved in this world and we already were be build space sheeps that find new home for people who want leave this planet
[15:26] <Dsarith> What will happen then
[15:26] <Dsarith> Which I am not convinced that they dont have the cure
[15:26] <reticuli> dsarith, cancer is caused by capitalism and abuse of the environment
[15:26] <iskatel> But instead to do it, we make wars
[15:26] <reticuli> so they could "cure" it now
[15:26] <iskatel> We stupid
[15:26] <Dsarith> True Iska, but there is no such thing as world peace
[15:27] <Zetapal> Dsarith - you are making unequivocal statements, as if from the mouth of god, thus and so is true, this and that is not , where is the discussion opportunity in that? do you even wamt to hear what other minds here have come up with? and by the way lets keep changing topics to keep everyone off-balance
[15:27] <Dsarith> I believe they could
[15:27] <Zetapal> pontification
[15:27] <Dsarith> Absolutley Zetapal... sorry if I am coming off. I will express it with stating its just my opinion
[15:28] <Zetapal> yes a qualifier might be appropriate
[15:28] <Dsarith> True
[15:28] <Zetapal> but thats just my opinion
[15:28] <Dsarith> :-)
[15:28] <Zetapal> :)
[15:28] <iskatel> :-)
[15:28] <iskatel> Smiles of united people
[15:28] <iskatel> :-)))
[15:29] <Dsarith> So is it possible to have world peace?
[15:29] <iskatel> I think yes
[15:29] <Dsarith> How
[15:29] <Ogmios> they do in china good work..hmmm they allow 1 baby or 2?
[15:29] <iskatel> But before it's will happend we need "40 days walk by desert"
[15:29] <reticuli> dsarith, define war?
[15:30] <Zetapal> perhaps we could start with the issue of inner peace , THEN expand
[15:30] <Dsarith> 1 Baby only
[15:30] <Dsarith> Ret: Define War
[15:30] <iskatel> Because our mind is poisoned by our life perception
[15:30] <Zetapal> iskatel - speak for yourself
[15:31] <Dsarith> I would say war is a clash where a substantial amount of humans die.
[15:31] <iskatel> And i can understand Zetas that they want to refresh human nation
[15:31] <reticuli> is substantial relative?
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[15:31] <Dsarith> It would take intevention such as the Zetas to change man... then you could have world peace
[15:31] <iskatel> Zetapal - Ok.. say me how to do that will be no wars in this world.. you know answer ?
[15:31] <reticuli> dsarith, is it a percentage of the population or a total number
[15:32] <Dsarith> I would say percentage
[15:32] <Dsarith> Numbers are too relative
[15:32] <Zetapal> iskatel - there will be wars and rumors of wars
[15:32] <reticuli> then yes, world peace  is possible
[15:32] <iskatel> Zetapal - if you don't know then you can't build new life.. because in our present society we don't have such experience, like how to build whole peace
[15:32] <reticuli> we had it for most of our history
[15:32] <Dsarith> Explain
[15:32] <Dsarith> Well true Ret
[15:33] <Zetapal> should that dismay you seeing that its a given?
[15:33] <Dsarith> In that regard we have had
[15:33] <iskatel> If you can't build new life,,, then ?
[15:33] <Ogmios> could usa use netron bombs in iraq?
[15:33] <Zetapal> I have a fairly peaceful environment right here, to start
[15:33] <Ogmios> neutron
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[15:33] <iskatel> So we need new generation who will be able do it, because their mind is clean
[15:34] <Zetapal> iskatel - life renews itself. is always changing
[15:34] <Dsarith> Ogmios: US can, but they wont. US will not use it unless we are being taken over
[15:34] <iskatel> Our mind is already spoiled because we are product's of our society
[15:34] <Dsarith> Last resort thing
[15:34] <Dsarith> True Iska
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[15:35] <Zetapal> ther again, please don't include the mind of others. if its your own experience then fine
[15:35] <iskatel> And Biblical Mosses vere right when were walk Jews by desert.. thjat new generation change old generation who had "slave" mind
[15:36] <iskatel> Ok.. maybe you can say something about own experience ?
[15:36] <Zetapal> maybe I can, thank you
[15:36] <Dsarith> All: I must go, but I enjoyed the conversation. Nice meeting you Iska and than you Zetapal for straightening me out.
[15:36] <iskatel> I will be glad to hear your opinion.. maybe i'm wrong.. i will not be persist on this
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[15:37] <iskatel> But i live in country, where life more real than in USA, i know better other side of this life
[15:37] <Zetapal> better than who or what?
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[15:38] <iskatel> When you try to survival whole month for 50US, and you walk by own legs anywhere where you need.. and see how is real life look like.. then you will understand what about i'm talking
[15:39] <reticuli> iskatel, there are many people in the us that have that expereince
[15:39] <Ogmios> where you live iskatel?
[15:39] <iskatel> While you well-fed your brains is sleep..
[15:39] <iskatel> I live in Ukraine
[15:39] <Zetapal> well ther you go
[15:39] <reticuli> you sleep walk?
[15:40] <iskatel> But when you feel starve your brains is work very quick
[15:40] <Zetapal> grammer?
[15:40] <iskatel> what ?
[15:40] <reticuli> try not to make so many generalizations about life in the US, I find that most foreigners get their information about this county through Hollywood
[15:40] <Zetapal> indeed
[15:40] <Ogmios> i dont know much about ukraine but finnish fought against them in suomussalmi village
[15:41] <iskatel> I very good know about life in US
[15:41] <iskatel> I were speak with many people from US
[15:41] <Ogmios> land of black earth
[15:41] <Ogmios> very fertile land in ukraine
[15:41] <Ogmios> ?
[15:42] <reticuli> iskatel, well if you think americans are all rich then you dont know much
[15:42] <Zetapal> well iskatel, then you suppose that makes you an authority
[15:42] <iskatel> You guys just don't value what you have..
[15:42] <iskatel> What is your salary ?
[15:42] <Zetapal> see?
[15:42] <iskatel> say it
[15:42] <iskatel> huh ?
[15:42] <iskatel> Reticuli what is your salary ?
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[15:42] <Zetapal> perhaps someday you will understand what i am talking about
[15:43] <Ogmios> i guess it depends where you live in us
[15:43] <reticuli> I make $1800 a month, I have a wife and child and a one bedroom apartment in seattle costs about $800
[15:43] <Ogmios> goodnite obany
[15:43] <Ralf> reticuli, that is ridiculous.
[15:43] <Ralf> move.
[15:43] <obany> take care every1 :)
[15:43] <reticuli> lol
[15:43] <Ralf> or ask for a raise. :-p
[15:43] <Ralf> i can barely take care of *MYSELF* on that salary
[15:43] <reticuli> and I am fortunate, many people are far poorer than I
[15:43] <iskatel> My salary is 50US per month.. my small room cost me 20US per month.. loaf of bread cost 1US over here.. new shoes cost 30$.. and you say that you not rich in compare with me ?
[15:43] <Ogmios> i couldnt afford family..so i dont have
[15:44] <reticuli> no, iskatel, actually you were the one that wanted to compare our salary
[15:44] <Zetapal> so what does earings prove ?
[15:44] <reticuli> however our income to rent ratio is identical
[15:44] <Zetapal> earnings
[15:44] <tied2> iskatel so how did you get a computer and aford to be on-line
[15:44] <Zetapal>  lol
[15:44] <iskatel> I compare possiblites, not salary... how many shoes you can buy for your salary ?
[15:45] <Ralf> i wish shoes cost $30
[15:45] <iskatel> I can buy only one both of shoes
[15:45] <Ogmios> well even indians manage better...than ppl in eastern europe
[15:45] <Ralf> instead of like $180
[15:45] <Zetapal> iskatel - what does purchasing power prove?
[15:45] <reticuli> iskatel, I am suggesting that there are many poor people here in america, the fact that you would argur that shows that you dont know much about america
[15:45] <Ralf> Zetapal: it means that you can buy more stuff!
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[15:46] <Ogmios> in florida..there are lots of poor ppl i know
[15:46] <reticuli> on my salary I can afford to pay bills and buy food, thats it
[15:46] <Zetapal> right ralph, and thats about all
[15:46] <iskatel> It's mean that in compare with me and with our life level, even most poor American will be look like a rich
[15:46] <reticuli> ah, thats where you nothing of life here
[15:46] <iskatel> So guys, better to learn how to value what you have.. then attack Iraq
[15:47] <reticuli> if you want to say that the Ukraine is a poorer country than the US I would agree. But to say that there is no poverty here is ludicrous
[15:47] <Zetapal> ok iskatel, so I can drink coke from a 2liter while you drink water or tea, what does that mean? what difference does it make for the mind of man ?
[15:47] <iskatel> Reticuli - What in your understanding the word "poor" mean ?
[15:48] <Ogmios> always some bullying country and this time its the land of the free
[15:48] <reticuli> i would define poor as either not having enough money to buy waht you need, or having to work so much that you are a slave, I would also say access to health care is a factor, as is nutrition and education
[15:49] <iskatel> It's mean, that i better know real life because i can survival for money like 50US per month.. If you come here i bet you will die in a month with money like this
[15:49] <reticuli> yeah, well guess what iskatel, I cant rent a place for $20 a month either, if you are saying that you are poor becasue you cant but imported goods then I dont agrre with you
[15:50] <iskatel> Most % people opver here can't allow education, can't allow to have car or even TV at home
[15:50] <reticuli> but=buy
[15:50] <Ogmios> 1 example..what country has more fat ppl than any other country in the world
[15:50] <reticuli> ogmios, do you think america is the land of the free?
[15:50] <iskatel> America is country of fat guys :-0
[15:50] <Zetapal> iskatel - I think you are way off in your extrapolation of finances to conclusions about the minds of men -  you oversimplify way too far
[15:50] <iskatel> :-)
[15:50] <Ogmios> i meant that in ""
[15:50] <reticuli> guess whatr, most of the fat people here are poor :)
[15:50] <Ralf> yeah
[15:50] <Ralf> i dont know too many fat rich people
[15:51] <iskatel> No America it's not land of free, it's land of money,,, but not of freedom
[15:51] <Ralf> but i see like
[15:51] <Ralf> hella fat mexicans
[15:51] <reticuli> ogmios thinks its the land of the free
[15:51] <tied2> lol
[15:51] <Ralf> and immigrant fast food labor
[15:51] <iskatel> Because they eat food from Macdonalds
[15:51] <reticuli> in america about 2% of the population has mosst of the money
[15:51] <iskatel> :-)))\
[15:52] <tied2> you guys crack me up
[15:52] <iskatel> I don't know english so good that make equal dispute
[15:53] <iskatel> Tied2 - we simply trying to understand each other
[15:53] <iskatel> And damn language baggier is make it more difficult
[15:53] <tied2> for the most part iskatel is right  if any one you went over there for a month you would kiss the ground when you got back and never say another word about not having enough
[15:53] <iskatel> sorry.. barrier
[15:54] <iskatel> But anyway i dont want live inUSA
[15:54] <Ogmios> ok..my friend was in hungary over a month
[15:54] <iskatel> Because money it's still not all
[15:54] <Ogmios> when she came back to finland she kissed the toilet
[15:54] <iskatel> Hungary is good place, our people move there that earn money, because no any job in our country
[15:54] <Zetapal> ok iskatel, now all of a sudden there's a barrier, where before yo knew all
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[15:55] <Ogmios> but big differences in hungary..budapest is richer..
[15:55] <Zetapal> you are backing off your previous statements rather than appologizing for the foolishness of them
[15:56] <Zetapal> a tactical move rather than an ethical one
[15:56] <reticuli> tied, I have literally travelled over the whole world, I have been homeless is this great country, and I have worked my ass off in foregn countries educating and helping people to improve their lives. To argue that there is no poverty in this country is absurd. Now, if iskatel is saying that there is more poverty in his country I might agree with that. But I just dont think you can make sweeping generalizations about places they have never
[15:57] <iskatel> Zetapal - i mean that i can't in whole measure to express my thoughts in your language, by this reasons i can't to explain all facts
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[15:57] <Zetapal> lets consider poverty of mind as opposed to physical poverty
[15:57] <reticuli> in that measure america is one of the most impovershied countries
[15:57] <iskatel> Reticuli - how you back from homeless ?
[15:58] <reticuli> i joined the millitary
[15:58] <reticuli> got one of those?
[15:58] <iskatel> Some social service helped you ?
[15:58] <iskatel> Right
[15:58] <iskatel> Over here if you ever become homeless, you will never get back from it if even you will be have a big desire for it
[15:59] <Zetapal> well iskatel, you know the language well enough to make unequivocating statements on americans and american life, now all of a sudden you say you are unequipped, no sir, you are quipped as of now
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[15:59] <Michaellss> hi all
[15:59] <iskatel> Because we have no any social service that will really work
[15:59] <tied2> ZP give the guy a break
[15:59] <reticuli> so, no, no social service helped me , in fact the only social servie that I could qualify here for would be about $100 a month in food stamps... and if you think thats enough to live on in this country you're wrong
[15:59] <Ogmios> iskatel talks better english than americans in general
[15:59] <reticuli> iskatel, america has very little social services
[15:59] <Zetapal> tied, I was hoping he would give us abreak
[16:00] <iskatel> 100$ ?
[16:00] <reticuli> thats what I said
[16:00] <iskatel> I heared about 500US, it's unemployment benefit in USA
[16:00] <Ogmios> health care and social service are much better in finland than usa
[16:00] <reticuli> thats only under certain situations, its hard to get and only lasts for a short time, and once agian, try living on $500 here
[16:01] <iskatel> WELL GUYS, I THINK WE LOST THE MAIN SUBJECT ABOUT POLE SHIFT
[16:01] <iskatel> Reticuli - come here as tourist, and i will show you real life :-)
[16:01] <reticuli> thats becaseu you keep talking about things you know nothing about iskatel
[16:01] <reticuli> i have been to eatern europe iskatel
[16:02] <Ogmios> reticuli are all states same..high living costs?
[16:02] <Zetapal> but he won't own up to the position s he took earlier, now that supprisingly someone is taking him to task for his attacks, now he is on the ropes and you cry mercy, well, what can I do about that ridiculous political request but back off
[16:02] <iskatel> I try to understand you Americans
[16:02] <reticuli> thansk anyway, I cant afford to come ther
[16:02] <Michaellss> I dont want to just jump in so ill wait,but I got a question about lasco c3...;)
[16:02] <iskatel> your welcome
[16:02] <reticuli> lol, well you gotta lot research to do iskatel
[16:03] <reticuli> if you want to talk about wealth, western europe is amuch "wealthier" country
[16:03] <Ogmios> not much time
[16:03] <iskatel> :-))
[16:03] <reticuli> lol
[16:03] <reticuli> well I guess EU isnt really a country yet
[16:04] <Ogmios> netherlands is quite rich and free
[16:04] <iskatel> I have question, someone know how to navigate, when you don't see the stars and compass is not working ?
[16:05] <iskatel> ANd GPS too
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[16:06] <reticuli> What I find disturbing is that here we are as human on this planet and we are confronting a juggernaut of evil that will grind us to all dust and is going to turn our planet into a parking lot and people want to sit back and point the finger and make sweeping generalizations about other countries which are fueled by some nationalism gone awry. Its sad
[16:06] <Ogmios> eu isnt country yet..but same currency and soon president too
[16:06] <reticuli> humanity is so pitiful
[16:06] <tied2> isktal before the poleshift pound a stick in the ground and dram a line in the dirt or mark it with paint ...towards the moon .... then after the poleshift mark another line tworg the moon and you will no how much the earth's crust shifted
[16:06] <iskatel> Humanity it's way to be a Human
[16:07] <reticuli> pleas eexplain?
[16:07] <tied2> brb
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[16:07] <Ogmios> pliis eksplein
[16:07] <iskatel> Sorry i were wrong translated.. i thought you said humanism is a pitfull
[16:08] <iskatel> sorry
[16:08] <reticuli> screw you ogmios
[16:08] <iskatel> goofy situation hehh
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[16:08] <Ogmios> hah
[16:09] <iskatel> This language barrier make very hard my conversation
[16:09] <reticuli> no problem iskatel
[16:09] <Michaellss> you all see the huge comet in lasco C3 java movies?
[16:09] <reticuli> ogmios has more of a problem with my typing errors
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[16:10] <Michaellss> ?
[16:10] <iskatel> Ok.. guys, i need go home, bless Lord all guys and girls
[16:10] <reticuli> later dude
[16:10] <tied2> bye
[16:10] <iskatel> bye to all
[16:10] <Ogmios> naah..just playing with words
[16:10] <Michaellss> bye
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[16:11] <Ogmios> typed it like i say it
[16:12] <Croky> hi
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[16:13] <Michaellss> go here,top left click the sun now,go down a bit,click java movie player,highlight c3,then click submit query then tell me....oh my what is that?
[16:13] <Michaellss> http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/
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[16:13] <Ogmios> i have been quite angry today
[16:14] <Ogmios> since i saw that monkey in tv
[16:14] <Ogmios> keeping a speech
[16:15] <Michaellss> did anyone watch it yet?
[16:16] <reticuli> well, please try and be a little more sensitive towrds americans, we have to live under his rule
[16:16] <Michaellss> can you see my chat?
[16:16] <Ogmios> i try
[16:16] <Michaellss> hello?
[16:17] <Terminal> hi Michaellss
[16:17] <Michaellss> hi
[16:17] <Michaellss> you have to go look at this lasco c3 jave movie
[16:17] <Terminal> lasco? c3? jave?
[16:18] <Michaellss> ok you are gonna freak......
[16:18] <Michaellss> go here http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/
[16:18] <Michaellss> then listen
[16:18] <Terminal> ok
[16:18] <Michaellss> top left of page hit the sun now
[16:18] <Michaellss> then click java movie player
[16:18] <Michaellss> click on c3,then submit query
[16:18] <Michaellss> let it load
[16:19] <Michaellss> ...
[16:19] <Terminal> loading
[16:19] <Terminal> im on dialup :(
[16:19] <Michaellss> oh bummer
[16:19] <PGill> whoa
[16:19] <Michaellss> lasco is a satillite
[16:20] <Michaellss> that watches our sun
[16:20] <PGill> what is that moving
[16:20] <Terminal> cool
[16:20] <PGill> that moving spot
[16:20] <Michaellss> the latest images there is something huge
[16:20] <Michaellss> that just came in to view
[16:20] <reticuli> hey, is there a troubled times chat any longer?
[16:20] <Terminal> awesome
[16:20] <Michaellss> man i wish you could see it whoa
[16:20] <PGill> good find michael
[16:20] <Terminal> i have a dedicated server in the U.S, ill get on that instead
[16:20] <Michaellss> you see it PG?
[16:20] * tied2-away is away: I'm around some where.
[16:20] * tied2-away is away: I'm around some where. : Autoaway, idle > 10 minutes. (Xscript 0.7.2)
[16:20] <PGill> yea
[16:20] <Michaellss> oh my
[16:20] <Terminal> take screenshots
[16:20] <PGill> that is really something
[16:21] <Michaellss> looks like it gets bigger
[16:21] <Michaellss> near the end of it doesnt it?
[16:21] <Michaellss> gonna keep close watch on this
[16:21] <PGill> yea, what time does that thing cover?
[16:21] <PGill> nm i see
[16:21] <Michaellss> sorry what ya mean?
[16:22] <Michaellss> ok
[16:22] <reticuli> is anyone here fammlair with that little bitch sapphire?
[16:23] <PGill> michael, is there any way to find out where that camara is pointed??
[16:23] <Michaellss> seen a few times dont really know though
[16:23] <Michaellss> hhmm not sure hang on...
[16:24] <Michaellss> what would that be called
[16:24] <Michaellss> direction uumm heading?
[16:24] <PGill> i guess it would be coordinates i think
[16:24] <Michaellss> view of camera?im tryin to search there site
[16:25] <PGill> that is a time lapse of looking directly at the sun correct?
[16:25] <Ogmios> how long victoria has been away?
[16:26] <Michaellss> i dont think that can be found easily....heh
[16:26] <Michaellss> ill kepp looking though
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[16:26] <PGill>  that is a time lapse of looking directly at the sun correct?
[16:27] <Michaellss> yes
[16:27] <Michaellss> im tryin to get the other one to work(c2)but it wont load
[16:27] <Michaellss> thats a closer view
[16:27] <Terminal> i see it
[16:27] <PGill> ok well, we know the time it occurs...so there should be a way to find out where the sun was in the sky over those days
[16:28] <Michaellss> im shakin....
[16:28] <Michaellss> I thought i remember readin something on ZT that says it ducks under the sun comin in...
[16:29] <PGill> yea i was thinkin that too, that it was behind/close to the sun at some point
[16:29] <PGill> i see the c2, the object is along the right side
[16:29] <Michaellss> please show this to moderators when they show up if im not here
[16:30] <PGill> sure
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[16:30] <Michaellss> hope they can have ZT comment
[16:30] <Michaellss> man that c2 just does not want to load.
[16:31] <Terminal> i got c2 working
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[16:31] <Michaellss> does it fly by in that one?
[16:31] <Michaellss> or can you see it i should say
[16:32] <PGill> if only we knew which way the thing is looking...
[16:32] <PGill> i got c2 up and u can see it on the right side for the first half
[16:32] <Michaellss> wow
[16:32] <Michaellss> what yall think?
[16:32] <PGill> how did u find out about this?
[16:32] <Terminal> interesting, ill put up screenshots
[16:33] <Michaellss> http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/
[16:33] <Michaellss> found here
[16:33] <Michaellss> new about lasco alrdy but thats where i first heard bout it
[16:34] <Michaellss> knew*
[16:34] <PGill> i see
[16:34] <Michaellss> theres alot of satillites on that nasa site
[16:34] <Michaellss> i get chills looking at some of those space pics some are so.......
[16:34] <Michaellss> almost can finds words ya know
[16:35] * Looking up reticuli user info...
[16:35] <Michaellss> brb.....5 mins
[16:38] <Ogmios> what you think it is in those lasco pics?
[16:39] <Terminal> im having trouble viewing the webpage, im using remote desktop to a server in the U.S with faster connection
[16:39] <Terminal> what does it look like to you?
[16:40] <Michaellss> back...
[16:40] <Ogmios> not a star
[16:41] <Ogmios> a comet?
[16:42] <PGill> it clearly has a tail i think
[16:42] <Ogmios> yes
[16:42] <Michaellss> thats what i think
[16:42] <Terminal> i agree
[16:42] <Croky> take a look at the suns crown in EIT 195 and EIT 284
[16:42] <Terminal> it looks very large
[16:42] <Croky> or lack of....
[16:42] <Michaellss> but i cant believe no anoucments just to say hey look this is cool...
[16:43] <Croky> EIT 195 has an huge increase in brightness in this last days also
[16:44] <Croky> click on "more EIT 195"
[16:44] <Michaellss> that just boggles my mind when you think how big the sun is,acting like that
[16:44] <Michaellss> spits and sputters pretty good
[16:45] <Croky> observing...
[16:46] <PGill> is that what really happens in the last 30 minutes??
[16:46] <Michaellss> i guess
[16:46] <PGill> it seems to get a LOT brighter, or is it some error
[16:46] <Michaellss> ditto....
[16:47] <Michaellss> wish i knew
[16:47] <Croky> the decrease of the crown intensity (aura around the sun) on EIT 284 has the direction of the body on Lasco C3
[16:47] <Michaellss> if you watch through some you can see a lot of errors
[16:47] <Croky> PGill:good question...
[16:47] <Michaellss> i still have alot to watch but from what ive seen errors arnt smooth like that
[16:47] <Michaellss> they pop in an out seem mostly black
[16:48] <Michaellss> need to really dig down and watch alot more to see if theres other errors i havnt seen
[16:48] <Michaellss> sorry bout spelling
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[16:49] <QueenVee> hello all
[16:49] <Michaellss> hey
[16:49] <Ogmios> hi victoria
[16:49] <QueenVee> hello Croky -- what brings you to this room?
[16:49] <PGill> i think it must be an error
[16:49] <PGill> only occurs on one frame
[16:49] <Michaellss> really?
[16:49] <PGill> pause it and go fram by frame
[16:49] <Michaellss> oh well had me excited for a bit
[16:49] <Croky> knowlodge...
[16:49] <Michaellss> who knows
[16:50] <PGill> still, the other object is VERY interesting
[16:50] <QueenVee> Croky: how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift?
[16:51] <Croky> maybe one year or so...
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[16:51] <Michaellss> theres alot of quick light flashes about,ya see them there errors right?
[16:51] <Croky> i'm very curious about this issue....
[16:52] <Michaellss> QV ya see the recent lasco c3 java movie?
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[16:52] <PGill> i dont know what quick flashes youre referring to
[16:52] <Michaellss> there all over the image
[16:52] <Michaellss> like an old movie player
[16:53] <Croky> i've been interested in this pole shitf issue since i was 8 or 9 years old, i'm 27
[16:53] <Michaellss> static
[16:53] <QueenVee>  the recent lasco c3 java movie? what is that?
[16:53] <Michaellss> http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/
[16:53] <QueenVee> Croky: what are you doing to prepare for the poleshift?
[16:53] <Michaellss> top left ,the sun now click
[16:54] <Michaellss> down to java movie player
[16:54] <Michaellss> pic C3 let load
[16:54] <QueenVee> okay, before i do all that Michaellss, what is it, what am i going to see?
[16:54] <Michaellss> look like a huge comet
[16:54] <Michaellss> comin in
[16:55] <QueenVee> and what is it SUPPOSED TO be?
[16:55] <Croky> i'm waiting, my path is being revealed.
[16:55] <Michaellss> dont know nasa hant said anything
[16:55] <Michaellss> i keep watch on these images
[16:55] <Ogmios> if its known comet..they will say
[16:55] <Michaellss> this is most needing more lookin into
[16:56] <QueenVee> sorry, brb
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[16:58] <Michaellss> ill be back all, my girlfriend just got home
[16:58] <Michaellss> cya
[16:58] <PGill> bye
[16:58] <Michaellss> :)
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[17:03] <Croky> fr ?!
[17:03] <Ogmios> what
[17:04] <Ogmios> it sure looks like a comet
[17:04] <Croky> sorry, someone arrived.... i got to go, bye
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[17:17] <Queen-away> Michaells: are you still there?
[17:17] <PGill> he quit
[17:18] <PGill> but i have the site if u wanna see it
[17:18] <Queen-away> so he did
[17:18] <Queen-away> hi PGill
[17:18] <PGill> hiya
[17:18] <Queen-away> unfortunately, i have to go and walk the hound. be back in a bit.
[17:19] <PGill> have fun
[17:19] <PGill> :)
[17:22] <PGill> gotta go
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[17:40] <scooby-atwork> whoever was wondering earlier, i think it was ogmios, if americans take Iraqi children into consideration.... of course we do!  But the person(s) rattling thier sabres are NOT LISTENING to us!
[17:40] <scooby-atwork> it is very frustrating to live under this ruler... Emperor Bush
[17:40] <scooby-atwork> or as I call him G-Deb the Shrub
[17:40] <scooby-atwork> oops... that would be G-Dub
[17:41] <scooby-atwork> the Shrub, our p-Resident.
[17:41] <scooby-atwork> with the emphasis on Resident
[17:41] <scooby-atwork> i didn't get a chance to speak about that earlier due to kids and stuff
[17:41] <Ogmios> ahh
[17:41] <scooby-atwork> but wanted to apologize to my international brethren for this man's dispicable words and actions on the world stage
[17:42] <scooby-atwork> he is truly a fool in presidential clothing
[17:42] <scooby-atwork> so sorry
[17:42] <scooby-atwork> : )
[17:42] <Ogmios> and ppl clapped their hands..
[17:42] * scooby-atwork waves to the people
[17:42] * scooby-atwork bows
[17:42] * scooby-atwork feels his head swelling
[17:42] <scooby-atwork> lol
[17:42] <Ogmios> cheered their president
[17:43] <scooby-atwork> the ppl clapping were more of the stupid white men running this country
[17:43] <scooby-atwork> did you notice that?
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[17:43] <tied2> yes
[17:43] <Ogmios> powell seemed unhappy
[17:43] <Ogmios> is he good?
[17:44] <Ogmios> or sts like bush gang
[17:45] <scooby-atwork> i suspect he is good
[17:45] <scooby-atwork> but the people he associates with make me suspicious
[17:45] <scooby-atwork> he could be cloaked
[17:45] <scooby-atwork> or playing good cop/bad cop
[17:45] <scooby-atwork> with the world
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[17:47] <Cruithne> it would be good if people pooled rescources
[17:47] <scooby-atwork> hi croky
[17:47] <Croky> hello again!
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[17:51] <scooby-atwork> yes cruithne, pooling resources is a good idea
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[17:52] <scooby-atwork> but one must be careful who one chooses for friends
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[17:52] <Cruithne> i'd image people know who there friends r already
[17:52] <Cruithne> it's a feeling
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[18:01] <Ogmios> http://www.fmi.fi/en/index.html
[18:01] <Ogmios> weather in finland
[18:02] <Ogmios> temperatures means celsius.so need to convert if use fahrenheit
[18:02] <scooby-atwork> got it
[18:03] <scooby-atwork> http://www.meaningofthelife.com/
[18:03] <scooby-atwork> best source of links on the net
[18:04] <Cruithne> Magnetic North Pole whether; http://weather.cnn.com/weather/forecast.jsp?locCode=YRB
[18:04] <Ogmios> i hated the wind..but now is better..colder but less wind
[18:05] <Cruithne>  w i n d is brrrrrrrrr
[18:05] <Ogmios> cold kills wind :)
[18:05] <Ogmios> if is cold enough.
[18:06] <Cruithne> Magnetic North Pole
[18:06] <Cruithne> Sunrise: 1:00 AM
[18:06] <Cruithne> Sunset: 1:00 AM
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[18:08] <Ogmios> http://weather.cnn.com/weather/forecast.jsp?locCode=EFHK
[18:09] <Ogmios> ahh sunset 4:24 pm in helsinki :)
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[18:10] <scooby-atwork> wow... 4 minutes late
[18:10] <Ogmios> 21.12 was the darkest day
[18:11] <Cruithne> been using the sky scrn saver from fourmilab it stills show sun 12 o'clock high at noon
[18:11] <Ogmios> about 6 hours daylight
[18:11] <Cruithne> not late at all
[18:12] <scooby-atwork> 4 minutes after the magical time of 4:20
[18:12] <scooby-atwork> lol
[18:13] <Ogmios> i hate when i see europe map..often only tiny bit of finland in map
[18:13] <Ogmios> southern coast
[18:13] <Cruithne> well it's not that big
[18:15] <Ogmios> where you live cruithne?
[18:15] <Cruithne> nyc
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[18:15] <scooby-atwork> wb Queen V
[18:16] <QueenVee> hey scoob
[18:18] <Ogmios> well finland is almost as big as germany but a lot less ppl of course :)
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[18:20] <GalacticExplorer> Hello
[18:20] <Cruithne> finland map; http://www.sitesatlas.com/Maps/Maps/502.htm
[18:21] <Ogmios> i live in pori
[18:21] <Ogmios> western coast
[18:21] <QueenVee> hi GE -- so what laws have you broken today?
[18:21] <QueenVee> hehe, just teasing
[18:22] <GalacticExplorer> He he. LOL
[18:22] <GalacticExplorer> Hello Queen
[18:22] <scooby-atwork> all of them
[18:22] <scooby-atwork> which ones you got?
[18:22] <Cruithne> ah on the gulf on bothnia
[18:22] <GalacticExplorer> Speeding may be
[18:23] <QueenVee> jaywalking
[18:23] <GalacticExplorer> :-)
[18:23] <Ogmios> yes
[18:23] <scooby-atwork> poking smot
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[18:23] <scooby-atwork> lol
[18:23] <GalacticLawbreaker> How about that?
[18:23] <QueenVee> GE: you mean you've even broken non-earth laws?
[18:24] <GalacticLawbreaker> Shhhhh. Don't want Council of Worlds to find out
[18:24] <scooby-atwork> lol
[18:24] <QueenVee> lol
[18:24] <scooby-atwork> do you think they monitor this chat room
[18:24] <scooby-atwork> lol
[18:24] <GalacticLawbreaker> Yeah, like they have nothing better to do
[18:25] <Cruithne> well if they do then they r getting paid to
[18:25] <Cruithne>  & want over time
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[18:26] <QueenVee> hey humvee
[18:26] <humvee> good evening
[18:26] <Ogmios> queen you saw that comet yet?
[18:26] <GalacticLawbreaker> hello humvee
[18:26] <scooby-atwork> what comet og?
[18:26] <humvee> hi GL = GE I presume?
[18:27] <GalacticLawbreaker> yes
[18:27] <humvee> cool
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[18:27] <GalacticLawbreaker> Long story, humvee, don't want to say it all over
[18:27] <warrior> whats new room?
[18:27] <humvee> np happy 2 c u
[18:27] <Ogmios> http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/
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[18:28] <Ogmios> push the sun now, then page down..java player
[18:29] <Ogmios> choose c3 and send
[18:29] <Ogmios> takes some time if slow connection
[18:30] <scooby-atwork> even with fast connection....
[18:30] <scooby-atwork> ;-)
[18:30] <Ogmios> :)
[18:30] <scooby-atwork> 8.5 MB
[18:31] <Ogmios> should be interesting..
[18:32] <Ogmios> i just wait nasa now..
[18:32] <Ogmios> what they tell us..
[18:35] <GalacticLawbreaker> Probably more lies
[18:36] <Cruithne> what is it that is showing on that page
[18:36] <Cruithne> the java image
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[18:37] <Ogmios> a comet with tail
[18:37] <Terminal> it sure is
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[18:39] <Cruithne> what is it signifigance
[18:40] <scooby-afk> !down
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[18:43] <QueenVee> hi tied
[18:43] <tied2> «§» Hello  «§»
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[18:46] <QueenVee> hello insomniac
[18:46] <InSomNiaC420> Queenvee, would this be an acceptable question for either zetatalk sessions on saturday?
[18:46] <InSomNiaC420> hey
[18:47] <InSomNiaC420> "Concerning the change to 4th density--what biological changes occur to bring about the change?
[18:47] <InSomNiaC420> "
[18:47] <QueenVee> hold on, insomniac....
[18:47] <InSomNiaC420> okay
[18:49] <tied2> also are you asking about the ice blocks that fell from the sky?
[18:49] <InSomNiaC420> That is pretty interesting.. lol how would that work? freezing in one place of the air, but not in others?
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[18:51] <QueenVee> hello Walt -- what brings you to this room?
[18:52] <Walt314> I was checking out shift2003.com, and discovered this room, and I was curious how others were preparing.
[18:52] <Walt314> It is to be very soon, sadly.
[18:53] <QueenVee> insomniac: I think the DENSITY section indicates that there are no perceptible biological changes. read this and tell me what you think: http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d04.htm
[18:53] <InSomNiaC420> Okay brb
[18:53] <QueenVee> Walt: how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the coming poleshift? whereabouts are you located?
[18:53] <Walt314> Does anyone have a good survival supply site?
[18:53] <Walt314> Oh, I've been reading Zetatalk for about 3 years
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[18:54] <Walt314> and I am located in Montreal
[18:54] <scooby-atwork> the other walt does, walt314
[18:54] <scooby-atwork> he comes around at night
[18:54] <Walt314> Ok
[18:54] <scooby-atwork> and you might want to change you nick
[18:54] <scooby-atwork> might get confusing round here
[18:54] <Walt314> oh ok. let me think
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[18:54] <QueenVee> Walt: there are also sites listed in the POLESHIFT LINKS section of the Shift2003 website: www.shift2003.com
[18:54] <pi314> there :)
[18:54] <scooby-atwork> kewl
[18:54] <scooby-atwork> nice nick
[18:55] <pi314> Thanks.
[18:55] <InSomNiaC420> lol math
[18:55] <QueenVee> whereabouts are you located, pi?
[18:55] <pi314> I have a tat of the PI symbol on the back of my neck, in blavck
[18:55] <pi314> blakc
[18:55] <pi314> doh
[18:55] <QueenVee> yes math.... or bodily fluid....
[18:55] <InSomNiaC420> lol body fluid? how is that connected?
[18:55] <pi314> Like the symbol for the movie PI, I had it traced off the DVD cover
[18:56] <scooby-atwork> QV: pi stated tha he is in Montreal
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[18:56] <scooby-atwork> a fellow Cannuck
[18:57] <QueenVee> oh, i missed that, sorry
[18:57] <pi314> So, 2 months until it become visible... should convince a lot of people.
[18:57] <InSomNiaC420> Thanks queen for the density page, but I am still wondering how it works in a scientific sense.. Do we lose an amount of bodily matter? Is the scientific explanation too far from our span of knowledge to understand?
[18:57] <QueenVee> so, pi, where are you planning to relocate?
[18:57] <pi314> I'm not sure yet, I may gather supplies and hope for the best.
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[18:57] <loitus> fat psycho
[18:57] <loitus> lol
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[18:58] <scooby-atwork> hrm
[18:58] <QueenVee> wow, big thrill there
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[19:00] <InSomNiaC420> sorry QV.. the answer to my Q is in the density section
[19:01] <QueenVee> insomniac: yeah? do tell, i'd like to know....
[19:01] <QueenVee> i was just re-reading it, trying to see if the answer was there
[19:01] <QueenVee> you got a link?
[19:01] <InSomNiaC420> Yeah, lemme get it
[19:01] <InSomNiaC420> http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d38.htm
[19:02] <InSomNiaC420> The "shift mechanism" says that is won't be described fully to humans because it is outside our span of knowledge
[19:02] <QueenVee> oh yeah, i remember now -- this was given quite recently as i recall
[19:03] <GalacticLawbreaker> Insomniac just wait until the year 2103 ....
[19:03] <InSomNiaC420> I thought it wasn't supposed to be an exact date..?
[19:04] <GalacticLawbreaker> I think Zetas said that 4th density shifting will happen in 100 years
[19:04] <InSomNiaC420> I remember reading in one ZT log that they said that there isn't an exact date to it, but it will happen around then
[19:04] <InSomNiaC420> "It is in the hands of humans" or something like that
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[19:06] <Ogmios> anybody know if some comet is coming closer this year?
[19:08] <GalacticLawbreaker> No comet, but an asteroid may be
[19:09] <tex-away> http://www.space.com/spacewatch/comet_kudo_030127.html
[19:10] * Insomniac420-away is now known as InSomNiaC420
[19:10] <tex-away> look at that link Ogmios
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[19:10] <from_Texas> !up
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[19:11] <Ogmios> ahh
[19:11] <QueenVee> hey tex
[19:11] <from_Texas> Ogmios it is the comet you say in the soho pictures you look at earlier
[19:11] <from_Texas> say = saw
[19:11] <from_Texas> hey QV
[19:12] <InSomNiaC420> Ping? Pong
[19:13] <InSomNiaC420> Has anyone here noticed the increase in the flu bug this year?
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[19:13] <inkpen> hello
[19:13] <from_Texas> hey inkpen
[19:14] <GalacticLawbreaker> hello inkpen
[19:14] <inkpen> reseting my natural clock...hell
[19:15] <inkpen> im trying to get my sleeping habits somewhat normal again
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[19:15] <walt> INSOM- nope I havent
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[19:16] <scooby-afk> !down
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[19:16] <inkpen> !up
[19:16] <inkpen> :)
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[19:16] <inkpen> !down
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[19:16] <inkpen> !up
[19:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o inkpen
[19:17] <inkpen> cool
[19:17] <scooby-atwork> !out
[19:17] <scooby-atwork> lol
[19:17] <inkpen> lol
[19:18] <InSomNiaC420> Bye everyone
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[19:18] <GalacticLawbreaker> Bye
[19:18] <inkpen> i heard on the news yesterday that a watermain broke in an area in the okanogan
[19:18] <inkpen> l8ter
[19:18] <inkpen> oops
[19:19] <inkpen> crazy...
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[19:22] <from_Texas> Ogmios did that answer your question or did you want other information
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[19:23] <Shaman464> Hi all!
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[19:23] <GalacticLawbreaker> Hi Shaman464!
[19:23] <Shaman464> whats with the name?
[19:24] <inkpen> hi shaman
[19:24] <GalacticLawbreaker> Ah nothing.
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[19:24] <QueenVee> ink: hardly
[19:24] <inkpen> heheh
[19:25] <Ogmios> yea tex
[19:25] <Ogmios> i dont need more info..its a nice comet
[19:26] <from_Texas> Ogmios ok.. cause there is plenty of near earth objects
[19:26] <Shaman464> im going to Europe the same time that PX will be viewable with the naked eye
[19:27] <GalacticLawbreaker> Shaman where in Europe?
[19:27] <Shaman464> Germany, switerland, austria, Italy
[19:28] <GalacticLawbreaker> Any particular reason? Or just to see the world?
[19:28] <Ogmios> around alps
[19:28] <QueenVee> hold on, humvee
[19:29] <humvee> QueenVee: question on private chat re regis:
[19:29] <Shaman464> School trip, im in high level German and have basic latin
[19:29] <humvee> ok
[19:30] <GalacticLawbreaker> Cool
[19:30] <scooby-atwork> shaman: high level german like SS?
[19:30] <scooby-atwork> lol
[19:30] <scooby-atwork> j/k
[19:31] <Shaman464> nah i hate bush sciiby
[19:31] <Shaman464> scooby*
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[19:32] <Shaman464> Hows it going Humvee?
[19:33] <scooby-atwork> lol shaman
[19:33] <humvee> pretty good packing up n getting ready 2 head east
[19:33] <Shaman464> what site?
[19:33] <GalacticLawbreaker> Shaman when you go to germany. Tell them that your grandfather flew over the city several times, but he wasn't on a trip
[19:34] <Shaman464> state*
[19:34] <Shaman464> what state jumvee
[19:34] <Shaman464> humvee*
[19:34] <humvee> HI = Kauai Island
[19:34] <Shaman464> i mean are you moving to
[19:34] <humvee> movin 2 MSP MN
[19:35] <humvee> cold burrrrr
[19:35] <Shaman464> minnsota?
[19:35] <humvee> yes north part mountains to hunt n fish
[19:35] <Ogmios> germans say no to iraq war..never again..strong pacifist movement..
[19:36] <GalacticLawbreaker> Ogmios the country changed a lot over the years
[19:37] <Shaman464> GL you havr yiur site back up?
[19:37] <humvee> Ogmios i think bush is playing bad cop as Iraqis have not destroyed any weapons only moved them to countries closer to Isreal
[19:37] <Shaman464> have your*
[19:38] <Shaman464> sorry im breaking in a new keyboard
[19:38] <GalacticLawbreaker> Shaman. I want to work on a design a little bit. Site is partially there.
[19:38] <Shaman464> ok
[19:40] <Shaman464> i am so out of it
[19:40] <Ogmios> what zt says about iraqs weapons of mass destruction?
[19:41] <Ogmios> have they those or not
[19:41] <Shaman464> http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g174.htm
[19:42] <Ogmios> nice...like obany :)
[19:42] <Ogmios> knows zt better than his pockets
[19:43] <Shaman464> lol
[19:44] <Shaman464> i just have it up analyize the Q and look in the most likely section or 2
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[19:46] <Ogmios> so what they are waiting..why not attack already..surely they have no proofs..just playing waiting game
[19:46] <inkpen> BRB
[19:46] <humvee> they have much more than enough proofs
[19:46] <GalacticLawbreaker> They need to build up alliance
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[19:46] <from_Texas> take til march to get all the troops over there
[19:47] <GalacticLawbreaker> with all arab nations around iraq
[19:47] <humvee> no the weapons arent in iraq now r with alqueda in other countrys - da
[19:47] <Ogmios> yes yes...troops ready for ps
[19:47] <humvee> true
[19:50] <QueenVee> humvee: private message....
[19:50] <GalacticLawbreaker> If you want to believe zetas. Bush wants to keep control of iraq and all region, so its l