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Session Start: Tue Feb 04 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <inkpen> so kroq is the station nancy will be on eh?
[00:00] <Richard> what day inkpen?
[00:00] <humvee> blond big bosomed w/dad who wud of killed both of us (had 2 move) lol
[00:00] <inkpen> not sure
[00:00] <Richard> humvee: lol
[00:00] <scooby> did she look like this humvee?
[00:00] <scooby> http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/asciibabe1.html
[00:00] <Richard> kroq a big station?
[00:00] <Richard> or wide coverage
[00:00] <scooby> its huge richard
[00:01] <scooby> the main rock station in LA from what i can tell
[00:01] <Richard> well that oughta blow the lid off a few matters then
[00:01] <humvee> has a dippy morning show
[00:01] <inkpen> but if croq is not an affiliat for nacys broadcast i dought it will be any where but where the station is located
[00:01] <scooby> or more like this?
[00:01] <scooby> http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/asciibabe2.html
[00:02] <humvee> Kevin and Bean Show
[00:02] <Richard> well you couldn't get any more black & white than that scoobs
[00:03] <Richard> petrol price has gone up twice in the last week here
[00:04] <tied2> it's ridiculous
[00:04] <scooby> here is a link for Kevin and Bean's show
[00:04] <scooby> http://www.kroq.com/kevinandbean/sounds/kbsoundshome.html
[00:04] <Richard> same happening stateside with petrol as well?
[00:04] <scooby> perhaps they will post the files afterwards....
[00:05] <humvee> [15:27] (NancyL) ANNOUNCEMENT: This coming Tuesday, 2/4 Nancy will be on live radio:
[00:05] <humvee> [15:27] (NancyL) KSNA out of Arkansas at 8:00 AM Central Time for 2 hours
[00:05] <humvee> [15:27] (NancyL) KROQ out of Los Angeles
[00:05] <inkpen> just the q i was going to ask
[00:05] <humvee> ok?
[00:05] <humvee> BRB
[00:05] <scooby> ok
[00:06] <scooby> yeah, not much info from nancy
[00:06] <scooby> maybe more on ZT.com
[00:06] <Richard> scoobs: I read the log at Sapphire site
[00:06] <inkpen> so who is the affiliat of kroq and ksna for nancys broadcast?
[00:07] <scooby> log of what?
[00:07] <Richard> what a sorry arse that bitch must have for a life (Sapphire)
[00:07] <scooby> lol
[00:07] <inkpen> heheheh
[00:07] <scooby> inky: dunno if there is an affiliate
[00:07] <inkpen> hmmm
[00:08] <Richard> well Sapphire if you ever actually bother reading the logs
[00:08] <Richard> listen up
[00:08] <inkpen> so how are we supposed to hear
[00:08] <Richard> SIT ON A BROOM POLE AND ROTATE
[00:08] <inkpen> LOL
[00:08] <scooby> ROTFLMAO
[00:08] <scooby> inky: move to LA by tomorrow?
[00:08] <Richard> and nothings going on !!!!
[00:08] <inkpen> heheheh
[00:08] <scooby> there has to be a stream out of there somehow
[00:09] <tied2> I looked today couldn't find shit
[00:09] <Richard> ok guys gotta go
[00:09] <scooby> richard: i am amazed at how people can think something which completely flies in the face of what is happening
[00:09] <Richard> just wanted to leave a message for Sapphire
[00:09] <scooby> later richard
[00:09] <inkpen> i dought sapphire could have access to these logs lest one of the server ops is spying which is highly unlikey
[00:10] <tied2> he was getting them somehow
[00:10] <Richard> take care guys have fun
[00:10] <scooby> l8r
[00:10] <Richard> later
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[00:10] <inkpen> you goen? seyyalter
[00:11] <inkpen> brb
[00:12] <tied2> ever talk to some of those people (debunker's) there total jackasses
[00:14] <tied2> ซงป Hello ซงป
[00:14] <raincity> hello
[00:14] <scooby> yeah
[00:15] <scooby> they are ok on some levels
[00:15] <scooby> like everyone
[00:15] <scooby> but for the most part as soon as you bring up
[00:15] <scooby> earthchanges
[00:15] <scooby> nancy lieder
[00:15] <scooby> aliens
[00:15] <scooby> zetas
[00:15] <scooby> etc, they go ballistic
[00:15] <scooby> AgentWhy was bitching and moaning about how much he hated jews
[00:16] <scooby> so, being raised jewish i had to lay into him
[00:16] <scooby> it was fun
[00:16] <scooby> [3j] joined in
[00:16] <humvee> ANNOUNCEMENT: This coming Tuesday, 2/4 Nancy will be on live radio:
[00:16] <humvee> KSNA out of Arkansas at 8:00 AM Central Time for 2 hours
[00:16] <humvee> KROQ out of Los Angeles
[00:16] <scooby> and kicked his racist ass out a few times
[00:16] <scooby> lol
[00:17] <humvee> i would even settle 4 audio tape
[00:17] <scooby> humvee: _someone_ will record it and it will be out on the net
[00:17] <scooby> i guarantee it
[00:17] <humvee> 3j is on #earthchanges
[00:17] <scooby> and hangs in #TT as an op
[00:17] <humvee> i hope so
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[00:22] <KornyOne> Hello
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[00:22] <tied2> ซงป Hello KornyOne ซงป
[00:22] <inkpen> ji komyone
[00:23] <inkpen> what brings you here?
[00:23] <inkpen> opps sorry bout the nick error
[00:23] <inkpen> oops once again
[00:23] <inkpen> quit
[00:24] <inkpen> LOL
[00:24] <raincity> I've done that a few times...keep talking and don't realize they quit.
[00:24] <inkpen> heheh, its a bugger
[00:26] <inkpen> well i should proolly go to bed now, gnite all
[00:26] <scooby> any star wars people in here?
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[00:27] <scooby> l8r inkpen
[00:27] <scooby> lol
[00:27] <scooby> meant to do that
[00:27] <scooby> found an ascii version of the whole movie
[00:27] <scooby> the original star wars
[00:27] <scooby> lol
[00:32] <scooby> interesting
[00:33] <scooby> nm
[00:34] <scooby> oooo
[00:34] <scooby> http://www.sapphireorb.com/
[00:34] <scooby> A Shroud Of Secrecy Which Must Be Dismantled
[00:34] <scooby> On this website I will publish the story of "John" an ex-employee of the United States Defense Department who has remained silent since his first observation and analysis of the secret object in 1991.
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[00:35] <scooby> hi sonik
[00:36] <sonik> I can feel it
[00:36] <sonik> something will happen this year
[00:36] <sonik> huge
[00:37] <scooby> me too bud
Session Close: Tue Feb 04 00:38:23 2003

Session Start: Tue Feb 04 10:19:58 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[10:19] * Now talking in #poleshiftdiscussion
[10:19] * Topic is 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[10:19] * Set by ChanServ on Sat Feb 01 16:59:52
[10:19] -ChanServ- (#poleshiftdiscussion) Welcome to the SHIFT2003 CHAT ROOM (www.shift2003.com) Moderator: QueenVee59@hotmail.com
[10:20] <islander> i'll check the graphs an d see if theres an update for that time
[10:20] <QueenVee> hiya raincity
[10:20] <raincity> hey there.
[10:20] <QueenVee> what's the weather like there? raining perchance?
[10:20] <islander> that was about 6:00 your time as I recall?
[10:20] <raincity> not today...couple days ago.
[10:20] <QueenVee> mmmm, between 6 and 6:30 i'd say
[10:20] <islander> ok
[10:21] <tied2> who of us actually has a to do list to prepare?
[10:21] <islander> waht time is it there now?
[10:22] <islander> tied: do everything?
[10:22] <islander> like sell house by this date, move by that date,
[10:22] <QueenVee> tied2: i have such a list that i'm constantly revising
[10:22] <tied2> yes has anyone made a to do list?
[10:22] <islander> food purchase by that date etc
[10:22] <QueenVee> yes, all of that
[10:22] <tied2> yes
[10:22] <QueenVee> everyone should have such a list at this point
[10:23] <tied2> I agree
[10:23] <islander> working on finalizing like a Gaant chart
[10:23] <QueenVee> and should know EXACTLY where they can quickly obtain the items on their list
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[10:23] <islander> if you can't do something then you need a backup for everything on the list?
[10:23] <tied2> I have always been a spontaneous , wing it person but I think I will plan for this :-)
[10:23] <QueenVee> islander: very good point
[10:23] <QueenVee> hi superzod
[10:24] <islander> 1 food then seeds then plant stock
[10:24] <islander> 2 clothing and footwear
[10:24] <superzod> Hi, anyone heard Nancy on the radio yet ?
[10:24] <tied2> nope
[10:24] <QueenVee> i think that's the question we have to start posing to people who come here.... have you put together a to-do/supply list, and if not, why not
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[10:24] <QueenVee> hello Tarsharah
[10:24] <islander> because they are waiting to see
[10:24] <islander> X
[10:25] <islander> ?
[10:25] <tied2> maybe we should come up with a generic list?
[10:25] <Tarsharah> Hello
[10:25] <QueenVee> zod: no, no one has said anything yet -- but i'll bet that Zetapal will have files for us later this evening
[10:25] <superzod> Hope so. Somehow I am looking forward to hearing this show
[10:25] <QueenVee> tied2: good idea
[10:25] <tied2> queen how ? ZP is in Va.?
[10:25] <islander> its the same list for everyone, the only variance is what is probable for available resources based on where they are located?
[10:26] <islander> abd their knowledge/skills to adapt
[10:26] <QueenVee> tied2: oh, that's right, no internet feed
[10:26] <islander> need a skill building list as well
[10:26] <QueenVee> islander: well, rather than a generic list, i think general broad categories...
[10:26] <QueenVee> problem with something too detailed is that some will find it overwhelming
[10:27] <QueenVee> you want people to take simple do-able steps
[10:27] <tied2> plus ideas on how/where to look for supply's cheap
[10:27] <tied2> Queen right
[10:27] <QueenVee> most people just have trouble getting started...
[10:27] <islander> and people will just copy the list like going grocery shopping without understanding the reasoning?
[10:28] <QueenVee> so i keep emphasizing the basics: (1) what you need to survive the poleshift itself, and (2) what you need to survive the aftertime
[10:28] <tied2> who going to DO this project?
[10:28] <QueenVee> why, you are tied2
[10:28] <QueenVee> didn't you volunteer?
[10:28] <islander> where's nick?
[10:28] <tied2> food water and shelter
[10:28] <QueenVee> islander: lol
[10:28] <tied2> lol
[10:28] <tied2> OK I'll do it
[10:28] <QueenVee> Tarasharah: i think so...
[10:29] <islander> there are volunteers out there waiting to be coordinated but we don't want to duplicate the efforts being put forth in TT
[10:29] <QueenVee> tied2: what you do NOT want is some kind of a comprehensive list -- you want a very short guideline
[10:29] <islander> a hoew to build your own list guideline?
[10:29] <islander> how
[10:30] <islander> simple approach by question?
[10:30] <islander> what will you do for food giving circumstances so they understand
[10:30] <islander> etc
[10:31] <tied2> OK then instead of a list a how to?
[10:31] <islander> make people think may be a better approach
[10:31] <QueenVee> under (1) (what you need to survive the poleshift itself), you need (1) a safe location (which may require relocation), and (2) a shallow earth trench with a secure metal lid.
[10:32] <islander> and big question 3 what do you plan to do with the rest of your life, big picture?
[10:32] <tied2> well everyone here has there own idea of how to survive the actually shift
[10:32] <QueenVee> under (2) (what you need to survive the aftertime), you need to cover these basics: (1) water, (2) food, (3) shelter, (4) ability to grow food, (5) source of energy
[10:32] <QueenVee> i would not give people anything more complicated than that
[10:33] <QueenVee> myself
[10:33] <islander> but thats covered in TT?
[10:33] <islander> what isn't covered?
[10:33] * Looking up JurAFK user info...
[10:33] <QueenVee> because within each of those categories, you have a wide range of choices.... from simple and adequate to high tech.... depending on your resources
[10:33] <islander> how to choose a good location in a safe location?
[10:33] <QueenVee> and people have to figure that out for themselves
[10:34] <tied2> I as thinking of a list with a place for notes for common things they could just copy for a website
[10:34] <QueenVee> islander: that's basic too: wide open space with nothing that can fall on you
[10:34] <Tarsharah> safe location?
[10:34] <tied2> from a web site
[10:35] <QueenVee> tied2: well, as i say, i would keep it as simple as possible
[10:35] <tied2> OK
[10:35] <QueenVee> Tarsharah: what are you asking?
[10:35] <QueenVee> tied2: maybe not as simple as i have just laid out, but not a heck of a lot more complicated
[10:35] <tied2> OK
[10:35] <islander> wide open is good out there, but I like the protection of a good hill as long as it doesn't fall on me
[10:35] <Tarsharah> How would I know which location is safe and which is not?
[10:36] <QueenVee> the important thing is to get people's PRIORITIES safe; people will go on and on about energy sources, for instance, without having given a thought to safe drinking water....
[10:36] <QueenVee> Tarsharah: have you read the Safe Locations document on ZetaTalk?
[10:37] <islander> theres geographically safe by safe location in ZT and then theres local considerations which is by your own judgement
[10:37] <QueenVee> CORRECTION: " the important thing is to get people's PRIORITIES straight..."
[10:37] <Tarsharah> no, with no further questions, I will read it.
[10:37] <QueenVee> Tarsharah: i will get you the link, hold on
[10:37] <QueenVee> there ya go: a country/state/province/city list: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[10:38] <tied2> witch are Water, shelter and food energy will be a luxury
[10:38] <QueenVee> tied: yes, as i laid out above: (1) water, (2) food, (3) shelter, (4) ability to grow food, (5) source of energy
[10:39] <QueenVee> mmm, should revise that to read as follows: (1) water, (2) food, (3) shelter, (4) clothing/protection, (5) ability to grow food, (6) source of energy
[10:39] <islander> number 1 prority survive?
[10:39] <islander> priority
[10:39] <QueenVee> islander: not necessarily
[10:39] <islander> prepare?
[10:39] <QueenVee> if you are not able to prepare for the aftertime, survival may not be the best choice
[10:39] <QueenVee> for you or your loved ones
[10:39] <islander> yes
[10:40] <QueenVee> so preparation for the aftertime is the number one priority
[10:40] <QueenVee> and if you are able to do that, THEN survival of the poleshift comes next
[10:40] <islander> for you or others depending on your choice
[10:40] <islander> yes
[10:40] <islander> tied?
[10:41] <QueenVee> too many are thinking "well, i'll just prepare to survive the shift itself, and if i'm lucky enought to survive, then i'll worry about the rest later"
[10:41] <QueenVee> big mistake
[10:41] <islander> serching for worms in scorched earth is not a plan
[10:41] <QueenVee> this is a very productive conversation
[10:41] <tied2> yes?
[10:41] <islander> agree so far?
[10:42] <islander> whats 3
[10:42] <tied2> yes agreed
[10:42] <islander> things needed after shift in order of survival importance
[10:42] <QueenVee> islander: you mean after (1) prepare for aftertime, and (2) survive poleshift?
[10:42] <tied2> right
[10:42] <islander> yes qvtwo groups
[10:43] <QueenVee> well, anyone disagree with the list i gave: (1) water, (2) food, (3) shelter, (4) clothing/protection, (5) ability to grow food, (6) source of energy
[10:43] <islander> the 3 option has two focii
[10:43] <tied2> also a where to buy/scrounge where possible
[10:43] <islander> short term and long term
[10:43] <islander> eg temp shelter, final shelter
[10:43] <QueenVee> tied: that falls into the category of HOW; right now we're laying out PRIORITIES
[10:43] <tied2> right
[10:43] <tied2> OK
[10:43] <QueenVee> are we agreed on the PRIORITIES that ahve been laid out above?
[10:44] <tied2> yes
[10:44] <QueenVee> islander?
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[10:45] <QueenVee> islander: you said "the 3 option has two focii" -- can you elaborate?
[10:45] <Tarsharah> It would be nothing new for me to survive sense I was raised in the woods. I know how to use means so others may never have thought of.
[10:45] <islander> i would simplify to grouping by needed to survive and if achievable to keep it clear
[10:45] <QueenVee> Tarsharah: yes, but you have never had to survive in a woods that will be stripped of vegetation, drench in constant drizzle, with dead or dying wildlife
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[10:46] <QueenVee> hello firelord -- welcome
[10:46] <Firelord> hi there! thanks 4 posting my profile:-D
[10:46] <QueenVee> no problem
[10:46] <QueenVee> everyone: meet Firelord, he is in hawaii
[10:46] <islander> 1 was prepare, 2 was survive shift 3a essential to carry on life 3b if achievable?
[10:47] <Tarsharah> True, but I feel my life style has some what prepared me for these times
[10:47] <Firelord> ehem, sorry I am in Greece. Hi all
[10:47] <islander> hi firelord
[10:47] <QueenVee> islander: (3a) falls into (1) -- i.e., it's a given that you prepare to carry on life....
[10:47] <QueenVee> sorry Firelord -- don't know what i was thinking
[10:47] <QueenVee> yes, Firelord is in Greece, not hawaii
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[10:48] <QueenVee> hello Prichard
[10:48] <islander> 3a includes sources of water, sources of food
[10:48] <prichard> hi How's everyone doing?
[10:48] <QueenVee> islander: we already have that
[10:48] <islander> we may be thinking differently i n the approach
[10:48] <QueenVee> islander: there is no (3)
[10:49] <Firelord> thanks QV, I was wondering if sotos is here
[10:49] <prichard> I would like to submit a question to Nancy for the Satruday discussion group. Do i do it here?
[10:49] <tied2> OK so we have priorities and a where to buy. scrounge, or get any other categories?
[10:49] <QueenVee> prichard: we are talking about how to very simply explain to people what their preparation/survival priorities should be as the date draws closer....
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[10:49] <QueenVee> Firelord: sorry, she is not here at the moment
[10:49] <prichard> Oh. I suggest food and water
[10:49] <Firelord> okidoki
[10:50] <Firelord> food, water, arms and ammo
[10:50] <prichard> Water is the main thing, and a clean supply of it. Sources will not be clean
[10:50] <Firelord> I also made provisions to buy a four wheel drive
[10:50] <Firelord> in Greece we have many alternate water sources
[10:50] <prichard> Forget the 4 wheel drive. Where r u going to go, and where r u going to get gas?
[10:51] <islander> how much fuel are you saving fire?
[10:51] <Firelord> scrounge it from existing tanks
[10:51] <QueenVee> prichard: hold on and i;ll show you wnat we have so far
[10:51] <prichard> Like what? Sources must be free of salt and bacteria. Not to mention dust fromplanet x
[10:51] <QueenVee> Firelord: all gas supplies will blow up during the shift; don't count on having gas at all
[10:51] <Firelord> I plan to relocate using the 4x4 and have enough to return to home base
[10:51] <Firelord> soft tanks carried on top of the niva should do the trick though
[10:52] <prichard> I wouldn't count on being able to use the 4x4. Use yoour money for dried foods, medical, supplies
[10:52] <Firelord> my home is right next to the sea, I need to relocate
[10:52] <islander> if there was a deluge of flaming materials or embers on your vehicle will it survive?
[10:52] <prichard> Remember all roads and lands will be greatly disturbed. 4x4 sounds great, but try using it off of a road, and they really aren't that great.
[10:53] <Firelord> I have been reconoitering the area
[10:53] <Firelord> I am quite certain that I can go cross country from relocation point back to home base
[10:53] <Firelord> I shall need about 100 litres for the return trip
[10:53] <prichard> Find a high area to get to, and make some sort of shelter there now. ODn't think of moving once panic sets in.
[10:54] <QueenVee> OKAY, I'M PUTTING MODERATION ON FOR A MOMENT IN ORDER TO POST SOMETHING UNINTERRUPTED. THESE ARE THE BASICS THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH SO FAR, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE:
[10:54] * JurAFK is now known as Jurian
[10:54] * QueenVee sets mode: +m
[10:54] <QueenVee> Your first priority should be to PREPARE TO SURVIVE THE AFTERTIME; and your second priority should be to PREPARE TO SURVIVE THE SHIFT ITSELF.
[10:54] <QueenVee> If you are not prepared to survive the aftertime, you should question whether you really want to survive the shift. Surviving the shift unprepared will be worse than dying in the shift.
[10:54] <QueenVee> Under PREPARING TO SURVIVE THE AFTERTIME, your priorities should be (1) water, (2) food, (3) shelter, (4) clothing/protection, (5) ability to grow food, (6) source of energy
[10:54] <QueenVee> Under PREPARING TO SURIVE THE SHIFT ITSELF, you need two things: (1) a safe location, and (2) a shallow earth trench with secure cover.
[10:55] <QueenVee> AND THAT'S IT
[10:55] * QueenVee sets mode: -m
[10:55] <islander> good
[10:55] <QueenVee> i think that's a very good broad outline
[10:55] <prichard> sounds good to me.\
[10:55] <QueenVee> one that is not overwhelming
[10:55] <islander> 3 restablishing yourself
[10:55] <QueenVee> islander: that's covered above
[10:55] <Firelord> QV, that sounds pretty much it
[10:56] <raincity> sounds good
[10:56] <Firelord> but how about defence from scroungers?
[10:56] <QueenVee> islander: in a list like this you have to avoid words that are open to interpretation, such as "resestablish yourself" -- who knows what that means?
[10:56] <QueenVee> Firelord: covered under PROTECTION
[10:56] <Firelord> there are bound to be groups of ppl that will be willing to pillage
[10:56] <prichard> I am looking at alternative ways to get water out of my well. There are some very intresting Hand well pums out there
[10:56] <Firelord> oh ok
[10:57] <prichard> No matter what, I'm not going to go out and kill anyone because they want something that I have. Ill try to work it out
[10:57] <Firelord> where I live there are many streams that can be using as a means to drive a power shaft of sorts
[10:58] <Firelord> indeed prichard
[10:58] <prichard> One thing you may allwant to look into are these LED flashlights. They are incredible! Will last up to 900 continuoous hors on conventional batteries!
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[10:59] <QueenVee> prichard: happy to hear that
[10:59] <Tarsharah> I have been following the conversation. I will now take time to study information in Zetatalk on the coming poleshift.   Peace within to you
[10:59] <QueenVee> okay, come back again Tar
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[11:00] <QueenVee> okay, i'm revising that list of priorities to read as follows: Under PREPARING TO SURVIVE THE AFTERTIME, your priorities should be (1) drinkable water (2) food (at least 2 years worth) (3) shelter/protection from elements (4) clothing (5) supplies to grow food (6) source of heat/energy
[11:00] <prichard> Sounds good
[11:01] <Firelord> QV, I have been testing the niva in serious mud conditions, as means to returning home and I have been doing fuel measurements. It seems that it is a much better idea if I move back home, since I am very much familiar with the local terrain
[11:01] <prichard> Change of Topic. How do I get a question to Nancy for the Poleshift discusstion?
[11:02] <QueenVee> Firelord: i don't understand... the niva?
[11:02] <Firelord> a russian 4x4, quite a hardly one
[11:02] <prichard> WHat the heck is Nivia, A parasite?
[11:02] <QueenVee> Firelord: as indicated, you should not depend on being able to drive anywhere after the shift
[11:03] <prichard> Forget the 4x4   Will be mostly useless. Will also draw lots of attention to urself
[11:03] <QueenVee> ZT has clearly stated that fuels such as gas will NOT survive the poleshift
[11:03] <Firelord> not even the fuel that i shall be carrying myself?
[11:03] <QueenVee> prichard: re question for zetatalk: there are two ways, depending on which session you want your question considered in -- the one in #poleshiftdiscussion, or the one in #zetatalk
[11:03] <tied2> Prichard show up here two hours before the next live session and present it
[11:04] <prichard> If the earth is rocking and reeling, i wouldn't want to be hanging onto a gascan!
[11:04] <Firelord> It sounds better if i move back to my home area, which I know extremely well
[11:04] <QueenVee> Firelord: if you are carrying fuel with you during the shift, neither you or the fuel will survive
[11:04] <prichard> Thanks Tied2
[11:04] <QueenVee> prichard: i'll consider your question now, if you like
[11:04] <prichard> What is home area Firelord? Where do u live?
[11:04] <Firelord> hmm, why so? if the extra cans are properly protected
[11:04] <Firelord> Greece
[11:05] <QueenVee> Firelord: they cannot be properly protected under poleshift conditions
[11:05] <Firelord> my main concern is to relocate inland and then be able to move back in
[11:05] <tied2> Firelord why not just strap a bomb on your ass? :-)
[11:05] <QueenVee> ZT has addressed this question twice now and is very clear; your choice if you choose to disregard that advice
[11:05] <QueenVee> tied: lol
[11:05] <Firelord> thank you for the educated remarks tied
[11:05] <QueenVee> Prichard: what's your question
[11:05] <tied2> y/w
[11:05] <prichard> Ok Vee, My question: After the shift, and the magnetic field changes that are to occur, how will that effect our aging process? Will we age more quickly or slower?
[11:06] <QueenVee> Firelord: you can expect some pretty direct and plain language in here....
[11:06] <Firelord> I am not devoting gary matter to rebuffing such though
[11:06] <Firelord> ehem gray
[11:06] <QueenVee> prichard: what makes you think that magnetic changes would have an effect on the aging process?
[11:07] <prichard> This was said during the last session. Poles will move, etc.
[11:08] <QueenVee> prichard: ZT has never said anything about magnetic changes affecting the aging process....
[11:08] <QueenVee> so, again, why do you ask that question, what makes you think magnetic changes will have any effect on the aging process?
[11:08] <prichard> I know that, but they have talked about magenetic changes, and these do effect the aging process.
[11:09] <QueenVee> to me, that question is the same as "how will magnetic changes effect our eye colour, will it change blue eyes to brown...."
[11:09] <QueenVee> why do you say that magnetic changes effect the aging process?
[11:09] <QueenVee> where are you getting that idea from?
[11:09] <tied2> Firelord what we are saying is trying to store fuel of any kind is very risky..... besides your just prolonging the inevitable is will run out fast your better off planing more for the long haul.
[11:09] <prichard> You can look this up on the internet. There are many discourses on this
[11:09] <Firelord> <<<< pondering feasibility of protecting fuel during possible sift
[11:10] <Firelord> I meant shift
[11:10] <QueenVee> prichard: well, you will need to provide some background information
[11:10] <QueenVee> otherwise, as i say, it's like asking how the magnetic changes will effect our eye colour...
[11:11] <prichard> Not really. You really need to research how and why we age before making judgements. Magnetic influences are very importatnt
[11:11] <QueenVee> but if you don't want to go through that process to have the question considered in this session, then you can email your question directly to nancy and hope that she will accept it for the #zetatalk session
[11:11] <prichard> Thanks vee, i will probably take that route
[11:12] <QueenVee> prichard: so you say; sounds like a personal theory of yours
[11:12] <tied2> well they said in the last session that the magnetic changes will be minimal
[11:12] <QueenVee> and nancy does not answer questions pertaining to personal theories
[11:12] <prichard> Not really, like I say, Einstein is not a personal friend, and research is reasearch
[11:12] <QueenVee> however, if you can convince her that it is more than a personal theory, then she might consider it
[11:12] <prichard> I believe it is a leigitimate question to ask if our aging proces will remain the same, slow donw, or seped up.
[11:13] <Firelord> I still think that my extra fuel can be properly protected during the shift, buried in a shallow trench away from personnel. and even if it does not survive, then I will still be able to trek back home
[11:13] <QueenVee> prichard: she gets those kind of questions all the time... and they are routinely ignored; i'm trying to help you get it considered....
[11:13] <QueenVee> Firelord: like i said, that's your choice to disregard ZT advice
[11:13] <prichard> Thanks for the advice, but questions need to be asked before they are considered
[11:13] <Firelord> fair enough:-)
[11:14] <Firelord> QV, what do you think about adding guns and ammo in the survival gear?
[11:14] <QueenVee> prichard: not worth it to you to maybe provide us with one single article showing that your theory is one considered by the scientific establishment?
[11:14] <Firelord> in moderation of course, weight factors considered
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[11:14] <steveny> hello
[11:14] <prichard> Firelord, some fuels are more volatile than others. Gasoline is very volitile, expands with heat, or contraacts with cold. This makes it very dangerous.
[11:15] <QueenVee> Firelord: that is totally your decision; if you feel you need them, then do
[11:15] <prichard> Queen, your request would be ridicuous. There are countless ones! That's why I asked u to look it up on the net urself.
[11:15] <Firelord> it might be worth it though, with proper attempts to protect it, prichard
[11:15] <Firelord> thanks QV
[11:15] <QueenVee> prichard: okay, so it's not worth your time. fine.
[11:16] <tied2> OK bbl
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[11:16] <prichard> Not gasoline. Think of the radical temeperature swings, and the reeling and shaking of the ground. What happens to gas suabjected to these donditions?
[11:16] <QueenVee> ANYONE ELSE HEAR HEARD ABOUT THIS THEORY ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF MAGNETISM ON AGING?
[11:16] <raincity> no, that's new to me.
[11:17] <QueenVee> Anybody else who could maybe point me to something that explains the theory?
[11:17] <Firelord> a shallow trench with cover might be able to afford some protection to the fuel though, plus I do not need much, just enough to get me back home
[11:17] <raincity> genetics play the largest role in aging, then comes diet and environment.
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[11:18] <QueenVee> Firelord: your question has been answered; it's your choice, but no one here is going to give you advice on how to store fuel -- the advice is to NOT store it. period.
[11:18] <prichard> I will tell u though, Firelord, i do intend on keeping a small supply of the quart propane tanks used to run a propane stove. i think that these could be stroed since they are contained in small, 1/4" steel containers, making them rather safe to store in a trench\
[11:18] <raincity> of course, it is possible that magnetics fits into the environment part --still, the largest part is genetic.
[11:19] <prichard> The whole environment IS magnetic! That is what the poles do! We have studied previous pole shifts by analyzing the magentic changes within life that has gone thru these changes, and even rocks.
[11:19] <QueenVee> prichard: who is "we"?
[11:20] <Firelord> well, have to sign off everyone, nice meeting u online QV. thanks again for the post. sorry bout my fuel obsession, must be my military training interfering hehe
[11:20] <QueenVee> who has studied previous poleshifts?
[11:20] <QueenVee> bye firelord, see you again
[11:20] <QueenVee> where are the studies, and what are their resutls?
[11:20] <cmell> I second you QV "who is we" ?
[11:20] <raincity> magnetics should play a very very small part in the aging process.
[11:20] <raincity> if any.
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[11:20] <cmell> hi ppl by the way
[11:20] <prichard> Scinetists! Pole shift information is not a new concept. Science hs proven that there have been many such magnetic pole shifts in the pass, and they have altered life
[11:20] <QueenVee> hey cmell
[11:21] <QueenVee> prichard: well, then you should be able to find us at least ONE reference to such studies and results -- yes?
[11:21] <prichard> Like I said, there are countless!
[11:22] <QueenVee> and you do understand that a physical poleshift is not the same as a magnetic poleshift? And that ZT has said that our theories about past magnetic poleshifts are not correct?
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[11:22] <steveny> gotta go
[11:22] <QueenVee> they are countless, but you can't find one -- mmmm, interesting
[11:22] <QueenVee> hi and bye steve
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[11:22] <prichard> I do understand that the Zetas claim that Cayce is a valid source. he described several of them. there is one source that you can look up and verify with th Zetas
[11:23] <QueenVee> prichard: you might want to read this: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s27.htm
[11:23] <QueenVee> ZT said he was a valid source, but NOT that his information was free from error, on the contrary
[11:23] <prichard> Like i SAID, IF cAYCE IS A VALID SOURCE, HE DESCRIBES SEVERAL POLE SHIFTS, AND THEIR EFFECTS ON AGING, MANKIND
[11:24] <QueenVee> prichard: and like i said, read this and you will see that the zetas do not agree with him: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s27.htm
[11:24] <raincity> Cayce isn't a scientific study...
[11:24] <QueenVee> so your question has been answered
[11:24] <prichard> Well, if i quoted another one, like Einstein, i suppose he is not valid either.
[11:25] <QueenVee> prichard: the zetas indicate that many of our human scientific theories are not correct
[11:25] <QueenVee> they are more advance and more knowledgable than us
[11:25] <prichard> And no, the question isn't answered, you would simply like to answer it without posing it.
[11:25] <raincity> If you want to know how you'll age...look at your parents and their parents for the info.
[11:25] <prichard> I agree, so let them answer the quuestion
[11:25] <raincity> Then factor in your diet and environment.
[11:25] <cmell> but you still have to point out even a single study of magnetic shifts prichard ?
[11:25] <QueenVee> prichard: your question presupposes that there will b a magnetic poleshift -- and the zetas clearly say that there will not, and that magnetic changes will be minimal
[11:26] <QueenVee> i'm not going to waste time posing questions that have already been answered
[11:26] <QueenVee> and neither will nancy
[11:26] <QueenVee> end of story
[11:26] <prichard> You are wqrong again. Clearly the last session said that the magnetic change will match the physical change, and it was stated that the former magnetic and phsical poles did not match up causi ng the wobble
[11:27] <QueenVee> prichard: did you read the link i just gave you? please provide a quote from the last section (with link) that demostrates what you are saying
[11:27] <QueenVee> because it would clearly contradict what the zetas have already said
[11:27] <cmell> I just found this maybe it's something ? : http://2012.antville.org/topics/Earth/
[11:27] <prichard> I ASKED THE QUESTION, AND THE INFORMATION IS IN THE FIRST RESPONSE FROM NANCY. YOU CAN READ WHERE SHE DISCUSSES THE MAGNETIC AND PHYSICAL POLE CHANGES. YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER ANYWAY
[11:28] <QueenVee> prichard: and you can provide us with the answer and the link; please do
[11:28] <cmell> you don't need to shout
[11:28] <QueenVee> from ZT: The Earth's polarity, where the magnetic North Pole points consistently in one direction as though focused on a distant point in the Universe, does not change, ever. This is an illusion, a hypothesis that humans have concocted to explain what they find in the Earth's crust.
[11:28] <prichard> I guess my cap button is opn
[11:28] <cmell> ok :)
[11:29] <prichard> Whatever. you have no idea how a magnetic field is created, so i won't discuss it with you. There is no myth in how a magnetic field is created. We do it all the time
[11:29] <QueenVee> don't be childish, prichard; i've provided you with a link that supports what i say; now you must provide a link that supports what you claim
[11:29] <QueenVee> prichard: well, don't argue with me, argue with the zetas. it is THEY who have said it is an illusion.
[11:29] <prichard> You r link doesn't say anything about how we will age after the shift, period
[11:30] <QueenVee> nice dodge, prichard
[11:30] <cmell> :)
[11:30] <prichard> That was my original question, and u know it.
[11:30] <QueenVee> and it can be assumed that we will age normally
[11:30] <prichard> By you of course
[11:30] <QueenVee> the same as it can be assumed that our eye colour will not change as a result of the shift
[11:30] <cmell> what was the question ?
[11:31] <QueenVee> unless you can provide some basis for thinking that aging conditions would change
[11:31] <prichard> Again, by you of course
[11:31] <QueenVee> you claim it will change because of a magnetic poleshift; but ZT says there will NOT be a magnetic poleshift -- so there goes yoru basis
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[11:31] <QueenVee> hiya RN
[11:31] <QueenVee> good timing, RN
[11:31] <cmell> hey rnt
[11:32] <RNTHOMAS> Howdy all... wazzup?
[11:32] <QueenVee> RN knows quite a bit about magnetic therapy -- do you not?
[11:32] <RNTHOMAS> Yup...
[11:32] <cmell> prichard what was your original Q ?
[11:32] <prichard> There is no need to discuss it. Any information that describes how we age would be useless to you becuase it didn't come from Zeta, and any people that Zetas say are sources don't provide coreecetinformation either, and you won't ask the question anyway becuase YOU already know the answer. NoNice circle
[11:32] <RNTHOMAS> Rife as well, but I'm by no means a genious...
[11:32] <QueenVee> RN: ever heard of any studies that indicate that magnetism has any effect on the aging process?
[11:33] <QueenVee> prichard: you are clearly looking for ZetaTalk to confirm your own personal theory, and angry because it does not; too bad, so sad....
[11:33] <RNTHOMAS> Nope...   I could postulate how it could reduce the aging process.
[11:33] <prichard> No I'm not, or I wouldn't ask the question silly
[11:33] <QueenVee> RN: please do
[11:34] <QueenVee> prichard: one more time; your question presupposes that there will be a magnetic poleshift, and ZT says there won't. therefore, a question that asks how a magnetic poleshift will effect the aging process is just plain stupid
[11:34] <RNTHOMAS> As blood passes through a magnetic pole (north field is the health side BTW)
[11:35] <prichard> Again, Zetas stated that there would be a magnetic shift, during the last session. They only stated it would not occur BEFORE the physical shift. you can't have a physical pole shift without changing the magnetic poles. This is an impossibility
[11:35] <QueenVee> prichard: then why can't you provide the quote and the link?
[11:36] <QueenVee> stop being childish; you can't support what you are saying and that's all there is to it
[11:36] <RNTHOMAS> The blood will gain a slight electric charge.. Blood is charged, it has ions... As the blood passes the a magnetic field, you have a movement of charges passing thru a magnetic field...
[11:36] <RNTHOMAS> Or in otherwords a Generator...
[11:36] <prichard> I don't have linking capabilities. I already told u it is in the ZetaTalk logs for the last session, the first question answered
[11:36] <QueenVee> oh, please
[11:36] <RNTHOMAS> This generator is very weak, far lower then microampheres...
[11:36] <QueenVee> you just copy and paste
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[11:37] <prichard> Well then read it for yourself and tell me Im wrong. its there in the FiRST QUESTION ANWERED
[11:37] <cmell> but generating a field of it's own RNT ?
[11:37] <RNTHOMAS> But it is enough to de-stabilize the outer protein layer of virus's, fungus, and parasites...
[11:37] <RNTHOMAS> I'm speaking in the case of someone placing a fixed magnet on their body...
[11:37] <RNTHOMAS> cmell...
[11:38] <cmell> yes
[11:38] <RNTHOMAS> There was a study (the results are supressed by the NWO) back in 1990-1992 in Einstein Medical College of New York.
[11:38] <QueenVee> prichard: i have just read the log of the last session and see NOTHING there about a magnetic poleshift
[11:38] <prichard> Thank u RNThomas, now you are making some sesne. The magnetic field also alters the flow of the blood stream, increasing odecreasing it. Elimination of of dead cells takes place at a different reate as the magnetic field is tampered with
[11:39] <prichard> Then yuu don't know how to read, or don't want to. its there
[11:39] <QueenVee> IF ANYONE ELSE READS SOMETHING IN THE LAST ZETATALK SESSION CONFIRMING A MAGNETIC POLESHIFT, THEN PLEASE POINT IT OUT TO ME. I'M ALL EARS.
[11:39] <woogles> -_-
[11:39] <QueenVee> hi woogles
[11:39] <QueenVee> prichard: so you say
[11:39] <RNTHOMAS> They took a petrie dish of heavily AIDS infected blood... Accidently left two electrodes which were very close together,
[11:39] <cmell> which session are we talking about
[11:39] <prichard> First question answered during ZetaTalk,. Read it carefully
[11:39] <cmell> ok
[11:39] <QueenVee> cmell: last saturday's session in the #zetatalk channel
[11:40] <RNTHOMAS> that passed a MICRO-AMPHERES of current (millions of an amp, clearly not enough to harm the blood).
[11:40] <RNTHOMAS> They found that all the AIDS was dead...
[11:40] <woogles> rnt: you sound like an alex chiu fan
[11:40] <QueenVee> prichard: i did; please quote me the section that says there will be a magnetic poleshift, in contradiction of what ZT has already said previously in the following link -- that there will NOT be a magnetic poleshift: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s27.htm
[11:41] <prichard> I'm here right now, so how can i quote it/ I'll email you the thing later.
[11:41] <QueenVee> please do
[11:41] <QueenVee> i'm all ears
[11:41] <prichard> No problem. i believe the logs on on your website too.
[11:41] * QueenVee waits....
[11:42] <RNTHOMAS> Einstein medical college then underwent a long series of studies and proved that electrical currents de-stabilize *ALL* virus, fungus, and parasites in blood and other body fluids..
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[11:42] <QueenVee> LOL
[11:42] <RNTHOMAS> These claim is reflected in the US Patents...
[11:42] <QueenVee> thanks RN, very interesting
[11:42] <RNTHOMAS> Not my words...
[11:42] <QueenVee> ok RN, next question:
[11:42] <woogles> session 2: [17:13] (NancyL) ZT: The magnetic alignment is one. This is dominated, set, by the alignment of the Sun, which has its alignment due to outside influences, and the Earth lines up with this.
[11:42] <raincity> Prichard was lying...
[11:42] <raincity> I found the section myself.
[11:42] <QueenVee> i know
[11:43] <RNTHOMAS> My plan is to use Electro-Medicine during the after time as a form of anti-biotic.
[11:43] <raincity> at 14:28 in the log
[11:43] <RNTHOMAS> OK, RN - stopping his brain dump...
[11:43] <QueenVee> woogles: that plainly says that that the magnetic alignment will NOT be affected by the shift....
[11:43] <raincity> Nancy told him he was wrong...hehe.
[11:43] <woogles> Yes I know, thus contradicting prich
[11:43] <QueenVee> asshole
[11:43] <RNTHOMAS> Oh, if you kill all virus and pathogens, you obviously will not age as rapidly...
[11:43] <QueenVee> that's why he wouldn't quote it
[11:44] <woogles> if you kill ALL virus and pathogens, life will end. We actually need some of them to survive
[11:44] <raincity> What are these people trying to accomplish?
[11:44] <raincity> He already had his question answered by nancy!
[11:44] <Ralf> whoa settle down people! irc is for fun and enjoyment
[11:44] <Ralf> and communication
[11:44] <cmell> at least we need E-coli :)
[11:44] <QueenVee> RN: ah, well, then you've put your finger on it -- it is the magnetic effect on viruses and pathogens that will slow the aging process, yes?
[11:45] <QueenVee> Ralf: BUT WE ARE HAVING FUN!
[11:45] <Ralf> lol
[11:45] <Ralf> all i see is caps
[11:45] <Ralf> and curse words!
[11:45] <cmell> hehe
[11:45] <QueenVee> FUCK OFF
[11:45] <RNTHOMAS> It's obvious to me, but I don't have any hints of studies to back this up...
[11:45] <QueenVee> hehe
[11:45] <QueenVee> just joking
[11:45] <Ralf> who's "off"? is she hot?
[11:45] <QueenVee> well, she's available
[11:45] <Ralf> cuz i have this thing about sticking it in ugly chicks
[11:45] <Ralf> it doesn't happen
[11:45] <QueenVee> so close your eyes
[11:45] <cmell> it seems some are getting ..f hehe
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[11:46] <QueenVee> hey prichard
[11:46] <Ralf> hey, i'm allowed to be shallow and superficial
[11:46] <Ralf> i'm a 25-year-old male. :-p
[11:46] <RNTHOMAS> So yeah, your correct QV... That's how the aging process can be effected.
[11:46] <woogles> Maybe I'm wrong about this, but don't us humans live long enough as it is? I mean fuck, we have countries where people are breaking a hundred fairly often. And who wants to be 100 if you lose your mind at 70?
[11:46] <QueenVee> prichard: from last zetatalk session: [17:13] (NancyL) ZT: The magnetic alignment is one. This is dominated, set, by the alignment of the Sun, which has its alignment due to outside influences, and the Earth lines up with this.
[11:46] <cmell> I thought aging was DNA related ?
[11:47] <QueenVee> ZT has again confirmed that the magnetic poles will NOT be affected by the poleshift, because they are set by the alignment of the sun
[11:47] <prichard> I just went back and read the logs agin. i cannot cut and paste becuase I tried. NACNCY CLEARLY STATES THAT THERE WILL BE A MAGENETIC AND PHYSICAL POLE SHIFT OCCURRING AT THE SAME TIOME! READ IT
[11:47] <RNTHOMAS> But fixed magnet theropy is very weak when compared to a pulsed magnetic theropy...
[11:47] <QueenVee> prichard: [17:13] (NancyL) ZT: The magnetic alignment is one. This is dominated, set, by the alignment of the Sun, which has its alignment due to outside influences, and the Earth lines up with this.
[11:47] <RNTHOMAS> Which is why we have such mixed results using fixed magnetic theropies...
[11:48] <prichard> You need to read the WHOLE THING, not just the parts you want, including questions and followup.
[11:48] <QueenVee> RN: so since ZT says there will actually be an INCREASE in viruses in the aftertime, it is not likely that any kind of change in the magnetic field will be positively effecting the aging process, right?
[11:48] <QueenVee> prichard: so quote us the relevant part
[11:49] <prichard> THE MAGNETIC NAD PHYSICAL SHIFT WILL OCCUR AT THE SAME TIME. That is a direct quote
[11:49] <RNTHOMAS> Well the earths magnetic field is too weak to have a serious effect... Fixed magnetic theropies work on boarderline cases only...
[11:49] <QueenVee> i don't see that in the log, prichard -- DOES ANYONE ELSE?
[11:49] <prichard> You don't want to see it. Keep reading
[11:49] <RNTHOMAS> The INCREASE in virus's will be caused primarily by Molds and ingesting of Molds and blight...
[11:50] <RNTHOMAS> This will weaken the Human body, and cause it to break...
[11:50] <woogles> "The term 'magnetic and physical' was not found in this document'"
[11:50] <prichard> Wrong again. Read
[11:50] <QueenVee> prichard: you've wasted our time enough. bye bye.
[11:50] <RNTHOMAS> Plus add in the weakened conditions of our bodies caused by Pesticides, and the US's releasing of radioactive iodine materials ...
[11:50] * prichard was kicked by QueenVee (prichard)
[11:51] <cmell> just did a search, no result
[11:51] <raincity> "The magnetic shift will happen AT the shift, not as man is supposing..."
[11:51] <raincity> it's at 14:28 in my log
[11:51] <QueenVee> that's nancy speaking, not zetatalk
[11:51] <raincity> right.
[11:51] <QueenVee> and when she sayd "magnetic shift", she is referring to what ZT said earlier, that there would be a "wobble" -- but no shift
[11:52] <raincity> right.
[11:52] <QueenVee> you have to read it in context
[11:52] <QueenVee> she was answering his question about whether a magnetic change would happen before the shift
[11:52] <QueenVee> and she was saying, no, not before, but at the same time
[11:52] <RNTHOMAS> Well DUUU! if Px can influence the earth's field, so can the sun!
[11:52] <QueenVee> RN: meaning?
[11:53] <RNTHOMAS> I'm agreeing ...   If Px can thru
[11:53] <RNTHOMAS> magnetic interaction with the earth's core, cause a Pole Shift...   As it's nearby....
[11:53] <woogles> May I ask you all a personal question?
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[11:54] <RNTHOMAS> Once it leaves, it would then go back to being influenced by the sun.
[11:54] * QueenVee wonders how a personal question could pertain to ALL of us?
[11:54] <Guest> The reference for magnetic shift is recorded on 17:25
[11:54] <QueenVee> Guest: please change your nickname to something other than Guest or you will be disconnected
[11:54] * Guest was kicked by QueenVee (Guest)
[11:54] <raincity> Prichard
[11:54] <woogles> If you truly and wholy belive in planet x is going to come in 3 months and 3 weeks, why are you on irc so much?
[11:54] <QueenVee> well, i warned him...
[11:54] <QueenVee> lol
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[11:55] <woogles> I'm not saying there is anything wrong with being on irc, but surely by now you've established your plans and your groups
[11:55] * Looking up planety user info...
[11:55] <QueenVee> woogles: explain the basis for your question: how is being on IRC somehow antithetical to believing that PX is coming?
[11:55] <RNTHOMAS> !ban *!*@4.67.38.233
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[11:55] <QueenVee> woogles: yes, we have -- again, why would you think we haven't?
[11:56] <planety> The reference for the Manetic Shift is logged on 17:25 of the ZetaTalk on Fewbuary 1st. You owe me an apology
[11:56] <QueenVee> hiya karmie
[11:56] <karmie> hi queen and everyone
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[11:56] <RNTHOMAS> !ban *!*@4.67.38.233
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[11:56] <cmell> hehe
[11:56] <QueenVee> thanks RN
[11:56] <RNTHOMAS> !kick planety
[11:56] <QueenVee> woogles?
[11:56] <woogles> It seems counter-intuitive is all. I mean I believe enough to think about it, but if I believed as much as I think you guys do, I'd be off with my family and friends
[11:57] <QueenVee> off where?
[11:57] <cmell> poorly disguised prichard huh ?
[11:57] <woogles> spending time with them at very least, enjoying the time we have left
[11:57] <QueenVee> i'm not neglecting my family and friends....
[11:57] <QueenVee> what makes you think i am?
[11:58] <QueenVee> woogles: how are YOU preparing for the poleshift?
[11:58] <cmell> well the truth is family and friends don't believe the same things as we do ( at least not in my case :(   )
[11:58] * QueenVee thinks that woogles is someone who can't multitask....
[11:58] * QueenVee is someone who can
[11:59] <karmie> was nancy on the radio this a.m.?
[12:00] <cmell> and was someone recording it ?
[12:00] <RNTHOMAS> kermie - what do you know that I don't, and how come you're not sharing!
[12:00] <QueenVee> lol
[12:00] <karmie> rn - are you talking to me?
[12:01] <QueenVee> woogles: so is that all you came here to say today?
[12:01] <RNTHOMAS> Yup! mispelled ya name, sorry! karmie
[12:01] <cmell> hehe
[12:01] <QueenVee> woogles: make snide remarks about how we spend our time?
[12:01] <karmie> rn - I don't know anything....but thought Nancy was to be on the radio today....wanted to know if someone heard her.
[12:01] <woogles> oi
[12:02] <QueenVee> woogles: you don't have anything else to contribute?
[12:02] <woogles> It was not meant to be hostile
[12:02] <RNTHOMAS> karmie - What radio program?
[12:02] <QueenVee> woogles: again, how are YOUR preparations coming along?
[12:02] <woogles> I am prepared.
[12:02] <QueenVee> what are you doing to prepare for the shift while we're all here wasting our time on IRC?
[12:03] <karmie> rn - didn't she announce on the sessions Saturday that she would be on the radio this a.m. from LA and Arkansas?
[12:03] <QueenVee> woogles: all prepared, eh?
[12:03] <cmell> QV it's not a waste of time to talk with ppl about the PS !
[12:03] <QueenVee> then i guess you don't really need to waste time with us here, right?
[12:03] <woogles> I'm wasting my time on irc too, obviously, otherwise I wouldn't be here.
[12:03] <RNTHOMAS> Hmmm.... But she doesn't say where, what stations or how... Hmmm... Could the mean 3.840 MHz?
[12:04] <QueenVee> well, woogles, i'm going to do you a favour: i'm going to free up your time to go and do something more useful and productive
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[12:04] <QueenVee> asshole
[12:04] <karmie> rn - she said KSNA - arkansas 8am central - kroq - LA 8:30 am pac....
[12:04] <cmell> :)
[12:04] * QueenVee is not in the mood for bullshit today
[12:04] <QueenVee> karmie: yes, she DID announce that
[12:05] <QueenVee> unfortunately, those stations do not have internet feed...
[12:05] <cmell> I read that too karmie
[12:05] <RNTHOMAS> So that woulda been this morning then... DRAT!
[12:05] <QueenVee> so only those within listening distance could hear the programs, and record them....
[12:05] <karmie> queen - did anyone hear it?...thought maybe someone could get it locally
[12:05] <cmell> what about zetapal
[12:05] <QueenVee> zetapal isn't within listening distance
[12:05] <cmell> wouldn't he tape it ?
[12:05] <raincity> [12:04] <woogles> god damn, she is as bad as obany.
[12:05] <cmell> a damn
[12:05] <QueenVee> raincity: lol
[12:05] <raincity> perhaps.
[12:05] <RNTHOMAS> 8:30 for me to hear Calif would be kinda tough...
[12:06] <QueenVee> i would hope that i would be a hell of a lot worse than obany....
[12:06] <cmell> heh
[12:07] <RNTHOMAS> KSNA ~ 104.5 FM ~ Laramie, WY
[12:07] <QueenVee> karmie: i guess we'll just have to wait until somebody shows up who listened to it, and hopefully taped it
[12:07] <karmie> rn - I know that is the location ....but nancy said arkansas....I didn't understand
[12:08] <QueenVee> but i tend to find all of nancy's appearances more or less the same.... she doesn't really say anything new for those already familiar with the material....
[12:08] <cmell> hey maybe someone posted it on usenet, I'll go check
[12:08] <karmie> kinda like the saturday sessions.....with the exception of last week
[12:09] <QueenVee> cmell: great!
[12:09] <cmell> yes thats my experience too QV
[12:09] <cmell> brb
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[12:09] <Shaman464> Hi all
[12:09] <QueenVee> hiya Shaman: what are you doing wasting your time on IRC when you can be out there preparing for the poleshift?
[12:09] <karmie> hi shaman
[12:09] <QueenVee> Shaman: just kidding
[12:10] <Shaman464> i have no car
[12:10] <QueenVee> we just had woogles on here telling us that...
[12:10] <Shaman464> lol
[12:10] <karmie> queen - misery loves company....that's what we are all doing here.
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[12:10] <woogles> Sorry abou that everyone.
[12:10] <QueenVee> don't you just love those passive-aggressive types who like to insult you via "an innocent question"?
[12:11] <QueenVee> oh, speak of the devil
[12:11] <cmell> heh
[12:11] <raincity> it's an art form for some.
[12:11] <Shaman464> well if we are wasting time just as much as he is
[12:12] <QueenVee> woogles: earlier we were working out some basic guidelines for those preparing for the poleshift, those coming to it fairly new....
[12:12] <QueenVee> i'd be interested in what you think...
[12:12] <QueenVee> and everyone else, of course
[12:12] <QueenVee> we were talking about how a lot of people are overwhelmed by the thought of preparing, and don't know where to start
[12:13] <QueenVee> and that an overly detailed guidelines (such as a list of things to do) is just going to overwhelm people further
[12:13] <QueenVee> so here's what we're suggestion you tell new people, as a way to get them started:
[12:13] <RNTHOMAS> Gotta run... Lunch time... ttfn...
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[12:14] <cmell> I have that feeling myself
[12:14] <QueenVee> Your first priority should be to PREPARE TO SURVIVE THE AFTERTIME; and your second priority should be to PREPARE TO SURVIVE THE SHIFT ITSELF.
[12:14] <QueenVee> If you are not prepared to survive the aftertime, you should question whether you really want to survive the shift. Surviving the shift unprepared will be worse for you and your loved ones than dying in the shift.
[12:14] <QueenVee> Under PREPARING TO SURVIVE THE AFTERTIME, your priorities should be (1) drinkable water, (2) at least 2 years worth of food, (3) shelter/protection from elements, (4) clothing, (5) supplies to grow food, (6) source of heat/energy
[12:15] <QueenVee> Under PREPARING TO SURIVE THE SHIFT ITSELF, you need two things: (1) a safe location, and (2) a shallow earth trench with secure cover.
[12:15] <QueenVee> the end
[12:15] <QueenVee> comments?
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[12:16] <cmell> that sounds like what I had of thoughts about the preparation
[12:16] <karmie> queen - I think that's good
[12:16] <QueenVee> please feel free to copy the above to use....
[12:16] <woogles> I agree with all the highlighted text.
[12:16] <QueenVee> and when people start to get overwhelmed, you can just keep leading them back to these priorities....
[12:16] <cmell> I'm still working on a simple to build and use distiller
[12:17] <Shaman464> i mean for most in here its mostly a waiting game, most are prepared and just waiting for arounf april first for fanil confromation
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[12:17] <Shaman464> around*
[12:17] <cmell> hey islander
[12:17] <islander> hello
[12:17] <karmie> hi islander
[12:17] <QueenVee> when they start obsessing about batteries, and solar power, and generators, etc., you need to say, yes, but first, have you got a way to purify water? have you got at least 2 years worth of food, have you got clothing and shelter, etc\
[12:18] <QueenVee> hi islander, good timing, we were just talkiing about that list of priorities we put together earlier....
[12:18] <cmell> the water is the hardest part QV
[12:18] <cmell> thats why I spend so much time in thinking about it
[12:19] <karmie> queen - true....some think they need a wheel barrow to haul their gold around, too.
[12:19] <QueenVee> Shaman: yes, but there will be more and more new people showing up here, and the rest of us need a way to deal with them, help them
[12:19] <QueenVee> karmie: LOL
[12:19] <Shaman464> lol
[12:19] <woogles> Is there a sister channel to this one, for people who are preparing to die rather than live?
[12:19] <cmell> maybe the priorities should be in the opening statement when you enter the channel :)
[12:20] <cmell> hehe
[12:20] <QueenVee> woogles: no, do you want to start one?
[12:20] <karmie> www.jackkovorkian.com
[12:20] <cmell> woogles no need to discuss that, just let it be
[12:20] <QueenVee> preparing to die is another form of preparation
[12:20] <QueenVee> we HAVE had people in here in the past who have made that decision for various reasons....
[12:20] <Shaman464> Karmie: are you saying there isnt gunns be barrels full of gold in the aftertime?!?
[12:20] <Shaman464> gunna*
[12:20] <QueenVee> though obviously it involves a very different kind of discussion....
[12:21] <karmie> shaman - for some gold and not food nor water!
[12:21] <QueenVee> woogles: i guess it will take someone who has made that decision to come forward and offer a channel in which like-minded people can discuss those issues....
[12:21] <Shaman464> i was kidding
[12:21] <karmie> shaman - I knew you were
[12:21] <Shaman464> ok
[12:21] <QueenVee> the key thing is to get people to FOCUS
[12:22] <cmell> does anyone have any thoughts on using catalysts in purification of water etc. ?
[12:22] <QueenVee> that's why i'm so strict about what new people are allowed to talk about in this channel -- sometimes it seems like they want to talk about everything BUT practical preparation.... it's an avoidance mechanism.....
[12:22] <QueenVee> cmell: explain what you mean....
[12:22] <Shaman464> i have no idea what that is cmell
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[12:23] <cmell> well sometimes introducing a catalyst speeds up the process
[12:24] <cmell> I can't remember which compounds, acts that way, but I know they exist :(
[12:24] <tied2`away> cmell chlorine crystals you can get in a pool supply store
[12:24] <cmell> oh well thats one ! :)
[12:25] <tied2`away> bleach and iodine are the only other two i know off
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[12:26] <cmell> I guess it's a bad idea, it's hard to get those compounds :(
[12:26] <cmell> in the aftertime
[12:26] <woogles> There is a very good one to make water drinkible, but I've forgotten the name. I will ask about it when I get the chance.
[12:26] <cmell> ok woogles
[12:27] <tied2`away> distilling is your best bet and it's easy to do
[12:27] <cmell> yes tied2
[12:27] <cmell> well fairly easy tied2
[12:30] <raincity> I was thinking about distilling recently. Having done so with water in a lab environment I know that it is very time consuming to get a useable supply of water.
[12:31] <raincity> It would almost certainly require an individual among the group to be the full time "distiller" if a good drinking supply is needed.
[12:31] <cmell> yes sounds like it raincity (from your exp.)
[12:32] <tied2`away> raincity thats why you need to refine your distiller a Little more efferent so you don't need a Bonn fire going 24/7 to make enough water
[12:32] <raincity> Without a "group" environment it would be very difficult.
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[12:32] <raincity> You could design a distiller with very large condensation tubes but it will be also very large.
[12:33] <cmell> yes rain, ones making food, and others doing other chores, and one making clean water
[12:33] <QueenVee> you can get very good large non-elecgtric distillers
[12:33] <tied2`away> like a water cooled condenser you can also recycle that hot water for cleaning......
[12:33] <raincity> This cuts the option of mobility down
[12:33] <Shaman464> Queen how much?
[12:33] <cmell> in $
[12:33] <Shaman464> yea
[12:34] <cmell> I think you mean shaman
[12:34] <Shaman464> yea
[12:34] <raincity> It seems that a rain-catch with a means of filtering would be much simpler.
[12:34] <QueenVee> couple hundred dollars -- check out the POLESHIFT LINKS on my site
[12:34] <tied2`away> QV the one listed on shift2003 site is 200 US dollars
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[12:34] <tied2`away> you could build a good one for 50.00
[12:34] <raincity> The aftertime is described as having much rain...
[12:34] <Shaman464> o is there w away i can getone in a local area?
[12:34] <cmell> but also having much pollution
[12:35] <Shaman464> o is there any way i can get one in a local area*
[12:35] <raincity> fabric could be layered, and wood chips, charcoal, etc to filter it.
[12:36] <cmell> I was thinking that If I have to run, then I cant take things lake a distiller with me, then I will have to be able to build one whereever I arrive ??
[12:36] <raincity> It sounds disgusting, but people have actually used their clothes to filter their own urine and survived off of it for several days.
[12:37] <QueenVee> raincity: yes, that's true; there's protein in urine
[12:37] <cmell> and you can distill it too rain
[12:37] <raincity> You could distill or filter your own urine and assumming little wasted you could recycle.
[12:37] <QueenVee> but it's only a short-term solution, as it will eventually become too toxic for you
[12:38] <woogles> You are usually better off holding your urine in as long as you can, rather than drinking it, at least as far as dehydration is concerned
[12:38] <cmell> actually there is no germs in fresh urine :)
[12:38] <raincity> right, but I mentioned it because the pollution can certainly be strained out with fabrics and etc.
[12:38] <raincity> we are talking about volcanic dust mainly?
[12:39] <woogles> If your going to be growing food, I think (I'm no biologist), you need clean water for that too since you plan to eat it. So in those cases the requirements could quickly exceed the production of fresh water.
[12:39] <cmell> I rather thought we were
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[12:40] <cmell> yes woogles are right I think
[12:40] <cmell> hi red
[12:40] <Red> Hiya cmel
[12:40] <QueenVee> woogles: no, ZT recently said that very little toxicity is absorbed by growing plants, a negligible amount
[12:40] <Red> what's new and exciting?
[12:40] <Red> Hey QV
[12:40] <QueenVee> Red: did you hear?
[12:40] <Red> ?
[12:41] <cmell> I didn't notice that QV
[12:41] <QueenVee> Red: THERE'S A POLESHIFT COMING!!!!
[12:41] <cmell> haha
[12:41] <Red> no!   news to me hehehe
[12:41] <Red> someone "credible" says so???
[12:42] <islander> keep the apron on and i'll go look for more ingredients, you get to do the flavor choice
[12:42] <Shaman464> a poleshift!
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[12:42] <Red> hey NN
[12:42] <Shaman464> what us this poleshift you speak of?
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[12:42] <tied2`away> lol
[12:42] <Shaman464> is*
[12:42] <cmell> hell'o NN
[12:42] <Red> lol   not a "friendly"?
[12:42] <cmell> bye NN
[12:43] <QueenVee> nope
[12:43] <QueenVee> a crazy
[12:43] <Shaman464> lol, bet he/she says the same 'bout us
[12:43] <QueenVee> no, that Nol guy really IS crazy
[12:43] <cmell> :)
[12:44] <Shaman464> what makes you say that?
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[12:45] <cmell> hey Zod, are you present ?
[12:45] <QueenVee> Shaman: you'd have to experience him.... ask obany.... even he kicks the guy the minute he shows up....
[12:45] <zod_away> I am here
[12:45] <Shaman464> lol
[12:45] <zod_away> Sorry about the other name. I have logged on another PC
[12:45] <zod_away> Wots up Cmell ?
[12:46] <QueenVee> don't you mean Wots that Cmell?
[12:46] <cmell> we're talking 'bout clean water
[12:46] <zod_away> er..he was asking about me
[12:46] <cmell> hehe QV
[12:47] <zod_away> Sorry to ask again, did Nancy radio broadcast go ahead
[12:47] <QueenVee> dunno, zod
[12:47] <QueenVee> no one in the listening area has reported yet
[12:47] <zod_away> Ok I will send an email..and hopefully I get a response
[12:47] <cmell> I tried to find the show posted on usenet, have still to see it :(
[12:48] <Red> wow   spot gold up big time... any war news in past copuple hours?
[12:49] <cmell> no nukes deployed yet :)
[12:49] <Red> heh    so far so good :\
[12:49] <zod_away> check out this Intereview with Saddame Hussein, Just aired here in the UK (www.channel4.com/news)
[12:50] <QueenVee> big train derailment in Malaysia: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2003/2/4/nation/sbntrin&sec=nation
[12:52] <QueenVee> thanks zod, will read that later....
[12:53] <QueenVee> zod: newsflash
[12:53] <zod_away> yeah..
[12:53] <zod_away> lisytenning..
[12:53] <zod_away> wots the newsflash ???
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[12:54] <QueenVee> well, the good news is that someone has just posted a message on tt-watch saying they recorded nancy's appearance on KROQ....
[12:54] <QueenVee> and will be providing it to others....
[12:54] <zod_away> Excellent news.
[12:54] <QueenVee> the bad news is that person is Michael Cunningham
[12:54] <Shaman464> :)
[12:54] <zod_away> Oh shit
[12:54] <QueenVee> hehe
[12:54] <Red> lol
[12:54] <Shaman464> anyone in here part of tt-watch?
[12:54] <zod_away> As long as we get it, we can make up our own mind
[12:54] <QueenVee> what do you mean, part of? subscribed?
[12:54] <Shaman464> yea
[12:55] <QueenVee> well, i would just wonder if the recording was complete....
[12:55] <zod_away> same here.
[12:55] <zod_away> if Nancy spoke about the shuttle, I bet that did not go down well
[12:56] <QueenVee> he also mentions that he is having some kind of surgery this week.... won't be getting a get-well card from me....
[12:56] <islander> might be complete, has anyone noticed how calm an approach MC is taling
[12:56] <islander> taking
[12:56] <cmell> just as MC thinks someone here is tampering with pics too ?? :)
[12:57] <islander> its different from a year ago
[12:57] <QueenVee> calm? gee, he must have been completely over the top a year ago, then....
[12:57] <islander> in sci astro, the name calling etc was
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[12:58] <QueenVee> he said something on sci.astro about having sent the radio stations "information about nancy" -- so i suspect there's probably something in the interview that he's tickled about, and wants people to hear....
[12:58] <islander> yep
[12:59] <Shaman464> whats the link to Sci.astro?
[12:59] <zod_away> I am off, see you all tonight tomorrow
[13:00] <zod_away> Take care..and have good evening/night/day
[13:00] <cmell> later zod
[13:00] <QueenVee> bye zod
[13:00] <Red> see ya zod
[13:00] <islander> Shaman: you access it through newsgroups through your ISP
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[13:00] <Shaman464> nop speaky computer lingo
[13:01] <Shaman464> No*
[13:01] <islander> get a listing of the newsgroups and subscribe to sci.astro and download messages
[13:01] <Shaman464> ok
[13:01] <QueenVee> well, i have to go and walk the hound, do some laundry.... will catch ya'll later....
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[13:01] <islander> cu l8r
[13:01] <Shaman464> g2g all, bye
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[13:01] <cmell> l8r
[13:06] <cmell> ping
[13:08] <Red> time for me to bail too... see ya later
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[13:09] <islander> cmell: its going quiet again
[13:09] <cmell-away> yep :(
[13:09] <islander> so quiet i thought I heard a pin drop
[13:10] <cmell-away> heh
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[13:10] <islander> hi terminal
[13:10] <Terminal> hey islander
[13:11] <cmell-away> hey term
[13:11] <Terminal> hello
[13:14] <islander> everyone is proccupied or something
[13:14] <cmell-away> I know I am, at least for the next 20 minutes :(
[13:15] * obaway is here
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[13:15] <Ogmios> hi
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[13:18] <obany> queenvee: mmm he did said that on sci.astro also ... as i said to you that he did it after the zetatalk session
[13:21] <Ogmios> i'm living like 2 lives..here talking about endtimes..and acting normal to other pp irl..just can shout that prepare to die soon
[13:21] <Ogmios> cant even
[13:22] <obany> it's the same thing for me
[13:24] <Ogmios> listening tool now..i dont usually listen american bands, but thats good
[13:25] <Ogmios> partly becouse they make alternative music, not for masses
[13:28] <Ogmios> and mtv wont play them much if any..lyrics too tough hehe.
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[13:31] <Ogmios> their new cd also apocalyptic and some talk about area 51
[13:31] <IaNZ> Just checking in Mid morning here.
[13:33] <islander> hi IaNZ
[13:34] <IaNZ> Hi Islander.. where is your island?
[13:34] <IaNZ> Anone on red alert yet?
[13:35] <islander> Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
[13:35] <islander> nope
[13:35] <islander> should we be?
[13:36] <IaNZ> The Ramtha organisation just sent out a kind of red alert.
[13:37] <islander> what's it about?
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[13:37] <IaNZ> By e mail..interesting...get ready for earthchanges.. which they/he has been predicting for years
[13:38] <islander> any dates or general?
[13:38] <IaNZ> Get food, medicines, get to safe location
[13:38] <IaNZ> General..but urgent
[13:38] <islander> thats curious
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[13:39] <obany> mmm
[13:39] <Dsarith-away> What is the ramtha organization
[13:39] <IaNZ> One more brick in the wall of "evidence"
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[13:39] <islander> what's your read on it IaNZ
[13:39] <islander> ?
[13:39] <Dsarith> Hey All :-)
[13:39] <islander> hi D
[13:39] <IaNZ> Someone sent it to me..
[13:40] <obany> http://www.ramtha.com/
[13:40] <IaNZ> But I have followed Ramtha for years... They have a site (use google)
[13:40] <obany> eheheh ianz, use your eyes :P
[13:41] <obany> <IaNZ> Someone sent it to me..
[13:41] <obany> <obany> http://www.ramtha.com/
[13:41] <obany> <IaNZ> But I have followed Ramtha for years... They have a site (use google)
[13:41] <obany> <obany> eheheh ianz, use your eyes :P
[13:41] <IaNZ> But they charge heaps (US$) for their stuff.. and I cant aford it
[13:41] <IaNZ> I know Nancy bad mouths them.. somewhat.. but I follow all sources..with an open mind
[13:43] <IaNZ> He has been advising.. get out of California.. and learn to milk a cow.. for years..
[13:44] <IaNZ> Have you followed them Obany??
[13:44] <IaNZ> Any opinion on Ramtha?
[13:45] * cmell-away is now known as cmell
[13:48] <IaNZ> Actually just re read the e mail..on 28th Jan.. said we now have 30 days to prepare. Make good use of that time.
[13:48] <obany> never followed it .. so no oinion
[13:49] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a110.htm   zetatalk about ramtha
[13:50] <IaNZ> I find it credible. A lot on spiritual development. But also an end of world type message. Soon....
[13:51] <cmell> what is oinion ??? obany ?
[13:51] <cmell> hehe
[13:51] <obany> heheheheheh cmell
[13:51] <obany> opinion ;P
[13:51] <Cruithne> 30 days to prepare for what?
[13:51] <cmell> thats ok just kidding
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[13:52] <islander> if it was visible in daylight in end of march, Px would be conclusive earlier to astronomers
[13:52] <IaNZ> To get out of Dodge... poleshift or whatever..war... get to a safe place..etc
[13:53] <IaNZ> Yes, some say April one is panic day...
[13:53] <islander> so these organizations will pick up on that and issue statements to their members to get them to the trough first?
[13:53] <cmell> things are not looking good :(
[13:53] * obany laters
[13:53] <cmell> later
[13:53] <islander> bye obany
[13:54] * obany is going to drink some stinging nettle tea downstairs .. so will return in like 20 minuts or so
[13:54] <Cruithne> gold went to 380 today
[13:54] <cmell> was that up or down cruit ?
[13:54] <IaNZ> Stock markets down...
[13:55] <Cruithne> the gold market is economic indicator
[13:55] <IaNZ> Someone is worried...
[13:55] <cmell> well bush doesn't care :(
[13:55] <Ogmios> what number is really bad then..under 300?
[13:55] <Cruithne> up over $8 today
[13:56] <IaNZ> Islander... I'm planning to get to the trough ist!!
[13:56] <islander> how was the movement, large quantities?
[13:57] <IaNZ> Havn't really started on the food thing yet...
[13:57] <islander> that will be in high demand
[13:58] <IaNZ> Our grain harvest doesnt start till April... hope I'm not too late to get some fresh stuff..
[13:58] <cmell> :)
[13:58] <Ogmios> we may have snow in april..
[13:59] <cmell> then again we may not
[13:59] <IaNZ> But I dont think that many will be buying raw grain.   Stockfood...!
[13:59] <cmell> I'm more worried about water myself
[13:59] <islander> that's the secret, you'll have to learn to grind anyways
[14:00] <IaNZ> Just got my new hand grinder....hard work!
[14:00] <IaNZ> Have to set up for pedal power..
[14:01] <islander> mount the grinder on the seat post?
[14:01] <islander> sit on handlebar?
[14:01] <IaNZ> Just starting to think about canned goods, pasta etc..
[14:02] <islander> you could have a ten speed grinder
[14:02] <islander> :)
[14:02] <IaNZ> Modify an exercise bike..I have several.. can get for $1 at some auctions..
[14:02] <islander> yep
[14:03] <IaNZ> Have a nice flywheel
[14:03] <islander> grinding stones can become milling stones
[14:04] <IaNZ> My guess is that there is only a few 100 hand grain grinders in this country
[14:04] <islander> museums pieces
[14:04] <IaNZ> Mine is steel plate
[14:05] * cmell is leaving, see you later
[14:05] <IaNZ> Yes I saw an identical one in a museum... along with all the other stuff I will need
[14:05] <IaNZ> Like 2 man saws
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[14:05] <islander> can you buy a museum?
[14:06] <IaNZ> Good idea :-)
[14:07] <IaNZ> Anyway.. gotta go....
[14:07] <islander> logging, fishing, farming, lots of museum soucres with good tech
[14:07] <islander> catch u later
[14:07] <IaNZ> Yeah.. makes my mouth water.. see ya..
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[14:11] <islander> c evryone uone else later
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[14:12] <longint> hi all
[14:12] <scooby-zzz> hi long
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[14:12] <scooby> howsit?
[14:13] <longint> how is what? :)
[14:13] <scooby> it?
[14:13] <scooby> how are you?
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[14:14] <longint> i don't know.. just thought I'd chat a little thats all
[14:16] <scooby> well there aint much going on in here as you can tell
[14:22] <obany> hi logingt
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[14:23] <Hillel> hello
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[14:28] <scooby-afk> later y'all
[14:28] <Terminal[afk]> later scooby
[14:28] <scooby-afk> cya term
[14:28] <Hillel> alligator :)
[14:33] <longint> MISKOLC? :)
[14:36] <longint> milyen aligแtor?
Session Close: Tue Feb 04 14:37:46 2003