Session Start: Thu Feb 06 12:17:51 2003
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[12:17] * Now talking in #poleshiftdiscussion
[12:17] * Topic is 'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others go to www.zetatalk.com for basic info or the #earthchanges channel for more general poleshift discussion.'
[12:17] * Set by ChanServ on Thu Feb 06 03:10:51
[12:17] -ChanServ- (#poleshiftdiscussion) Welcome to the SHIFT2003 CHAT ROOM (www.shift2003.com) Moderator: QueenVee59@hotmail.com
[12:18] <QueenVee> karmie: yes, exactly; do you think anything was different in the 60s? sorry, i don't buy the excuses for political apathy
[12:18] <QueenVee> if you care, YOU FIND OUT
[12:18] <islander> hi raincity
[12:18] <QueenVee> islander: AND IT WASN'T IN THE 60S? EVEN HEAR OF KENT STATE?
[12:18] <raincity> hey
[12:19] <cmell> what if you are in the dark or buy their story ?
[12:19] <QueenVee> then you want to be in the dark, and you want to buy the story
[12:19] <karmie> I don't buy it either....but when the polls are taken and the figures quoted....it the people that listen to the news that are being counted....and the rest of us aren't heard
[12:19] <cmell> are u sure ?
[12:19] <QueenVee> in this day and age, anyone who blindly believes what they are told by government and media is being WILFULLY blind
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[12:20] <Zetapal> could someone please pass the vitriol ?
[12:20] <cmell> I still have this little doubt that some are led by false news
[12:20] <humvee> QueenVee add to that most ppl dont think critically either
[12:20] <QueenVee> how many people here have publically protested against the war in afghanistan and the proposed war in iraq?
[12:21] <QueenVee> how many have held a placard?
[12:21] <cmell> me only in private, I'm sorry to say
[12:21] <QueenVee> well, how do you expect to be "heard" if you don't take it public?
[12:22] <islander> we listen to ZT say won't happen so we don't act
[12:22] <firelord> hi all <again>
[12:22] <QueenVee> islander: YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS
[12:22] <islander> tongue in cheek queen
[12:22] <cmell> zt say it's in the hands of man
[12:22] <islander> you're yelling again
[12:23] <QueenVee> well, i'm sorry, i'm angry. people passing around clips of bodies being blown up and not having the ability to get up off their asses and participate in public protest -- sorry, it makes me angry, and it makes me sick
[12:23] <islander> theres more than one way to protest
[12:23] <cmell> what do you do to protest QV ?
[12:24] <QueenVee> yeah, how?
[12:24] <Shaman464> im going to a protest on feb.14 at WMU
[12:24] <QueenVee> i march in front of the american embassy once a month when i'm in toronto; it's a regular organized event there that has been going on since 9/11
[12:24] <islander> in the pocket book where it hurts
[12:24] <QueenVee> Shaman: EXCELLENT!
[12:24] <QueenVee> islander: and how are you doing that?
[12:24] <cmell> ok, nice just checking
[12:25] <islander> organize and let those that need to hear it know that if they continue they will pay the price
[12:25] <islander> everything to leaders and corporate heads is about profit
[12:26] <QueenVee> islander: yeah, well, that's public protest
[12:26] <islander> if they think something is unacceptable and will change that then the agenda changes
[12:26] <cmell> but you may get undue attention from the establishment
[12:26] <firelord> QV, just a short q. The ET entities behind ZT are supposed to be the much talked about greys?
[12:26] <QueenVee> nice attempt to dodge the point -- yes, there are different kinds of public protest -- question is are YOU participating in public protest?
[12:26] <islander> visa card instaed of plaque-card
[12:26] <islander> instead
[12:26] <QueenVee> islander: AND HOW ARE YOU DOING THAT?
[12:27] <QueenVee> AND HOW ARE YOU MAKING THOSE WHO NEED TO HEAR IT KNOW?
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[12:27] <islander> how many here ever followup and let a company know why they are not going to get your business?
[12:27] <QueenVee> islander: i do if frequently
[12:27] <QueenVee> if=it
[12:28] <Ogmios> my gf protested against US  
[12:28] <islander> i do all the time and lety all my friends know too, ask them to contact a company as well
[12:28] <QueenVee> Firelord: the zetas are one of only many species that are called "greys" by humans
[12:28] <firelord> I did it with Shell, in relation to Nigeria
[12:29] <firelord> tyQV!
[12:29] <cmell> How are we going to make it to our safe place if we become too public, I mean if we have to avoid getting to many stragglers, and die of starvation ?
[12:29] <QueenVee> cmell: that's right, protect your own ass above all
[12:29] <cmell> yes I know it sounds sts
[12:29] <QueenVee> it IS sts
[12:29] <firelord> according to one theory though, greys are part of the draconian species, and these are staunch enemies of mankind
[12:29] <cmell> but how can you help ppl later if you die
[12:30] <QueenVee> cmell: get off it; how are in danger from the government of Denmark?
[12:30] <QueenVee> give me a break
[12:30] <QueenVee> ZT says the scandanavian countries are most likely to help people during the shift, not persecute them
[12:30] <cmell> ok maybe not denmark, but they are a member of nato
[12:31] <QueenVee> firelord: whose theory, and why do you believe that theory?
[12:31] <QueenVee> cmell: you're just grasping for excuses
[12:31] <cmell> and you shouldn't put too much into my saing this, I'm just probing around
[12:32] <firelord> I shall try to get a link for you. In the mean time, it sounds pretty logical to me that greys could be scouts of forerunners to a draconian invasion, given all the stories about malevolent abductions
[12:32] <QueenVee> firelord: please take that kind of talk elsewhere; it does not reflect what ZT has explained
[12:33] <QueenVee> firelord: if you think the zetas are malevolent, then i guess you shouldn't be paying attention to ZetaTalk
[12:34] <cmell> and yes I do admire what you do QV
[12:35] <firelord> it is an honest question, to my humble opinion
[12:35] <firelord> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/species2.html
[12:36] <QueenVee> Firelord: it is a question that reveals that you have either not read ZetaTalk and/or feel highly ambivalent about the Zetas
[12:36] <Shaman464> Fire not a great source of info
[12:37] <firelord> will try to do better sgaman
[12:37] <firelord> ehhhm shaman
[12:37] <QueenVee> firelord: which is fine, but this is not a channel for such discussions
[12:37] <cmell> :)
[12:38] <Shaman464> it probally just some wacko, esspacailly if they use something like Angelfire for website hosting
[12:38] <QueenVee> just what about the theory expressed on that page do you find compelling? what is the theory based on other than someone's overactive imagination?
[12:38] <QueenVee> and if you give it credence, why on earth are you taking ZetaTalk seriously?
[12:38] <QueenVee> presuming you do?
[12:39] <firelord> www.reptilianagenda.com
[12:39] <firelord> I just like to keep an open mind
[12:39] <QueenVee> an open mind?
[12:39] <humvee> thanks for the interesting posts - bye 4 now
[12:39] * humvee has quit IRC
[12:39] <firelord> yep
[12:39] <QueenVee> Firelord: please go to #earthchanges from now on; this is not the channel for that kind of bullshit
[12:39] <firelord> why bs?
[12:39] * firelord was kicked by QueenVee (firelord)
[12:40] <QueenVee> oh, christ: david icke of all people ---------> http://www.reptilianagenda.com
[12:40] <cmell> heh
[12:40] <Shaman464> lol
[12:41] <QueenVee> hi, i'm seriously preparing for the poleshift and aftertime predicted by the zetas.... oh, and by the way, i think the zetas may be scouts of a draconian invasion.....
[12:41] <raincity> lol
[12:41] <cmell> lol
[12:42] <Shaman464> lol, where was that form, the scouts thing?
[12:42] <QueenVee> from firelord
[12:42] <QueenVee> [15:33] <firelord> It  sounds pretty logical to me that greys could be scouts of forerunners to a draconian invasion, given all the stories about malevolent abductions
[12:43] <QueenVee> clearly the guy DOES have an open mind -- so open that his brain fell out
[12:43] <raincity> That's a fair enough assessment, but has nothing to do with preparing for the shift...
[12:43] <Shaman464> what proof does he have?
[12:43] <Ogmios> he didnt know this is pro zeta not anti zeta channel
[12:43] <QueenVee> raincikty: eh?
[12:43] <Shaman464> i get what you are saying rain
[12:44] <QueenVee> raincity: we are only preparing because the zetas have advised us to -- why would we taken the advice of malevolent aliens who mean us harm?
[12:44] <QueenVee> it's just a wee bit illogical, doncha think?
[12:44] <raincity> I'm saying that there are many sites claiming info on the "greys" but this channel is about the preparation for the shift.
[12:44] <QueenVee> raincity:  'Chat room restricted to those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk.
[12:44] <cmell> I've read much if that stuff and the like, and it just didn't ring a bell with me :(
[12:44] <raincity> me either.
[12:45] <QueenVee> raincity: what part of "as predicted by Zetatalk" do you not understand?
[12:45] <raincity> But, I support the freedom of speech that allows other opinions.
[12:45] <Shaman464> it sounds like someone out to make a couple bucks too me when ever i read it
[12:45] <raincity> QueenVee: I understand it just fine...but not everyone is going to see it the same way.
[12:45] <cmell> yes me too
[12:45] <QueenVee> raincity: well, i guess you would prefer #earthchanges then, because i have made it clear from day one that this is not the place to have those kinds of discussions. period.
[12:45] <raincity> It's not my discussion.
[12:45] <raincity> I didn't agree with it.
[12:46] <QueenVee> raincity: but clearly you disagree with the discussion parameters of this channel.
[12:46] <raincity> no.
[12:46] <raincity> He should have been kicked earlier.
[12:46] <QueenVee> [15:47] <raincity> But, I support the freedom of speech that allows other opinions.
[12:46] <Shaman464> he hasa right to think it, but not voice it in this chat because we dont care to hear it\
[12:46] <QueenVee> what is that if not a criticism?
[12:46] <raincity> QueenVee: you don't support freedom of speech?  I thought you protested in favor of it.
[12:46] <QueenVee> at least have the courage to stand behind your own words
[12:47] <QueenVee> get it straight: i have never said that this was a channel for FREEDOM OF SPEECH.l
[12:47] <raincity> Me either.
[12:47] <raincity> Your misinterpreting what I said.
[12:47] <cmell> now now you are arguing about technicallities
[12:47] <Shaman464> because we know that what NL says is what is gunna happen not some guy who runs an angelfire website
[12:48] <QueenVee> raincity: whatever made you think that this was a channel where people could exercise unrestrained freedom of speech?
Session Close: Thu Feb 06 12:48:19 2003