Session Start: Sat Nov 16 11:23:58 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
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[11:23] * Topic is 'Sat.Nov.16: Pre-ZetaTalk Chat begins 1:30pm CST, 2:30pm EST, 19:30 UTC. ZetaTalk Session w/ Nancy begins 2:30pm CST, 3:30pm EST, 20:30 UTC. Room may be closed after ZetaTalk begins; disruptive participants will be removed.'
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[11:23] -ChanServ- (#poleshiftdiscussion) Welcome to the SHIFT2003 CHAT ROOM. Moderator: QueenVee59@hotmail.com.
[11:24] <QueenVee> i wish there was a way to de-voice people; but unfortunately it's either let them yammer away or boot them out of the room....
[11:24] <BobS> Queen I don't think it should all fall on your shoulders, but if you want to do that, then I don't see why anyone else would be upset about that
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[11:24] <QueenVee> oh, i'm not worried about upsetting anyone
[11:24] <QueenVee> lol
[11:24] <QueenVee> hello cmel
[11:24] <BobS> :-_
[11:24] <c-melton> hi
[11:25] <c-melton> someones taken my normal nick
[11:25] <QueenVee> i just want to do what's best in terms of an effective session
[11:25] <QueenVee> cmel: that's awful
[11:25] <BobS> Well people can still pose q's to Nancy on their own as well if they want
[11:25] <c-melton> heh
[11:25] <QueenVee> maybe i'll give it a try
[11:26] <c-melton> strange, the system says I'm still on
[11:27] <c-melton> as cmel
[11:27] <from_Texas> QV: are you thinking no follow up questions.. just let her go thru the ones we submitted... then submit new questions and follow up questions next week
[11:27] <QueenVee> Tex: no, i'm NOT thinking that
[11:27] <QueenVee> i was asked to moderate the follow-up questions
[11:28] <QueenVee> weed out the irrelevant / stupid ones
[11:28] <from_Texas> QV: I agree with that we lose all of our time in the follow up section... so moderation is good
[11:28] <c-melton> QV can you try to kick my nick cmel (try and run a /whois and see its me) ?
[11:29] <rick> just do it queen, dont worry bout anyone s opinion
[11:29] <QueenVee> so once the session begins, everyone is de-voiced except nancy and myself; people can message their comments/question to me privately, and i will post the ones that are relevant....
[11:29] <QueenVee> rick: you'll find that i spent very little time worrying about anyone's opinoin.....
[11:29] <rick> great
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[11:30] <QueenVee> cmel: it says that cmel is Claus Melton
[11:30] <c-melton> yes, but I cant use the nick
[11:31] <QueenVee> cmel: tried to kick "cmel" but nothing
[11:31] <c-melton> damn
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[11:31] <c-melton> how long of a timeout is there
[11:31] <QueenVee> hi fetus
[11:31] <fetus> hello!
[11:31] <c-melton> hi fetus
[11:32] <QueenVee> cmel: go to the help channel (#help) and get one of the funnet.org people to fix it for you
[11:32] <fetus> how long do i have before the session?
[11:32] <QueenVee> one hour
[11:33] <c-melton> maybe I didn't log out correctly ? , ok QV
[11:33] <jimben> oh ~ so long..3.37 am in my region~ eyebags sheesss :/
[11:33] <QueenVee> does anyone have any questions for nancy that they'd like to throw out now?
[11:33] <c-melton> when will this channel be locked
[11:33] <c-melton> ?
[11:33] <QueenVee> cmel: it *may* be locked in one hour
[11:33] <spanky> poleshift or general question?
[11:33] <fetus> ill be back in 40 minutes
[11:33] <c-melton> ok, brb
[11:33] <QueenVee> i will only lock it if i need to
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[11:34] <xenshin> argh, i had a question but seem to have forgot it! dagnabbit
[11:34] <QueenVee> nancy won't answer any questions that have already been answered in ZetaTalk, so if you ask your question now, we can help determine whether it has in fact been answered or not, and point you to where it is....
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[11:35] <QueenVee> or help you to reformulate the question so that it's more relevant to the session topic....
[11:35] <QueenVee> so what's the news, cmel?
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[11:35] <cmelaway> I'm in mirc
[11:35] <cmelaway> instead of xchat
[11:35] <amed> yo
[11:36] <cmelaway> and as you see I'd forgotten to change from cmelaway
[11:36] <cmelaway> :(
[11:36] <amed> QueenVee: what about a question relating to brainwaves? like a quick rundown of which brainwave state if best for what.. beta, alpha, theta, delta, with an emphasis on channeling and ET communication?
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[11:38] <QueenVee> amed: how does that related to preparation for the poleshift and aftertime?
[11:38] <amed> if people are about to die, or know they are about to die, it would help to save your last breats to uplift your consciousness or help ascension
[11:38] <amed> shrug, i'll try to ask it anyhow
[11:39] <xenshin> in zetatalk it mentions that the eath would stop rotating due to some magnetism or what not...but if the earth would stop rotating, wouldn't the earth collapse as well as gravity disapeering?
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[11:39] <xenshin> everything would float up into space...
[11:40] <QueenVee> amed: so you would like to know if the zetas recommend a specific meditative state  for people about to die?
[11:40] <QueenVee> hi there Mike
[11:40] <Mike-O> Here to cause trouble, as usual.
[11:40] <Mike-O> :)  :)  :)
[11:40] <QueenVee> Mike: xenshin has aked the following question, and i'm wondering if you know whether it has been addressed in zetatalk?
[11:41] <QueenVee>  <xenshin> in zetatalk it mentions that the eath would stop rotating due to some magnetism or what not...but if the earth would stop rotating, wouldn't the earth collapse as well as gravity disapeering?
[11:41] <rick> pearing
[11:41] <Mike-O> I think they answered that by saying the moon doesn't rotate . . .
[11:41] <amed> QueenVee: well, brainwaves are specifically related to meditative states, so i'd rather go in detail and find out about all the brainwaves
[11:41] <miguel> queen, the earth would not collapse, even if it stops the rotation
[11:41] <Mike-O> But men walked on it, and it hasn't collapsed.
[11:42] * Looking up cmel user info...
[11:42] <rick> earth wont collapse
[11:42] <Mike-O> Since when is gravity caused by spin?
[11:42] <spanky> ok my question is: what exactly was it that STS aliens did in their deals with the 12th planet hominoids that still effects them today?
[11:42] <miguel> queen, i went back to ZT but i could not find the percentages
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[11:42] <QueenVee> amed: i'm trying to help you formulate the question so that it is related to the session's subject matter; as it is it doesn't and therefore won't be accepted
[11:42] <xenshin> ok maybe not collapse, but gravity would disapear and as a result everything on earth would float up into space
[11:42] <rick> no
[11:43] <miguel> but, i thought it was 4 new-unsparked, 1  old-sparked, 1 very old-assisting, is this right?
[11:43] <Mike-O> In all my science classes, as far as we know, gravity is the attraction between objects.
[11:43] <amed> QueenVee: oh.., but what if there is no agenda today?
[11:43] <QueenVee> amed: there is an agenda
[11:43] <Mike-O> . . . regardless of rotation.
[11:44] <QueenVee> miguel: none of that rings a bell, so unless you can find the reference in zetatalk you're referring to....
[11:44] <Mike-O> That's why two ocean liners can't get too close to each other on the high seas. They would virtually lock into each other by virtue of their mass, as Buckminster Fuller once explained.
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[11:44] <QueenVee> Miguel: what specifically do you want to find out about brainwaves. can you try and be more specific?
[11:44] <QueenVee> hello malakai
[11:44] <xenshin> wierd...so all this time i thought gravity depended on the earth's rotation...
[11:44] <|Malakai|> hi queen
[11:45] <Mike-O> Yet ocean liners don't 'rotate'.
[11:45] <miguel> queen, i did not make the question about brain waves
[11:45] <QueenVee> sorry, that was meant for amed
[11:46] <QueenVee> spanky: sorry, i just noticed your question:  what exactly was it that STS aliens did in their deals with the 12th planet hominoids that still effects them today?
[11:46] <Mad_Hatter> Isn't Gravity a property of mass density not centripetal force...i.e, rotation.
[11:46] <amed> QueenVee: nevermind, i think its been asked already.. i recall reading about it in zetatalk now.
[11:46] <|Malakai|> i have an invention that produces energy using ordinairy air as a fuel. the only exaust fumes it gives off is air and as long as their is air then the device will run.
[11:46] <|Malakai|> i was wondering if it could be used after the shift
[11:46] <amed> |Malakai|: why couldnt it?
[11:46] <|Malakai|> or do we have to stick with zeta invented stuffs
[11:47] <rick> there will be air
[11:47] <QueenVee> spanky: i don't understand the question, what do you mean "still affects them"...?
[11:47] <QueenVee> malakai: what makes you think we would have to "stick with zeta invented stuff"?
[11:47] <|Malakai|> but what if my invention is used in different ways ie exploited by the government
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[11:48] <QueenVee> malakai: there won't be any government
[11:48] <spanky> the 12th planet society moved in the STS direction to the point that they aren't ready for a transformation.
[11:48] <spanky> that's what I meant
[11:48] <rick> to much unnecessary worry
[11:49] <|Malakai|> i have not applied for a patent yet simply because i do not trust the government now. they are constantly monitoring the patent applications, why do u think there are so many ads on tv for inventors to patent things. so they can steal them
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[11:50] <amed> |Malakai|: would this invenstion change the world? ie, what is the magnitude of your invention?
[11:50] <|Malakai|> i know of an irish inventor who invented a machine that can power your home for years using minimum fuel. his invention has not been heard of for years and i can find no information on him
[11:50] <QueenVee> spanky: so haven't you already answered your own question?
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[11:50] <|Malakai|> imagine a device that provides FREE energy
[11:51] <amed> does it provide in real time? or require a day or nights charging?
[11:51] <|Malakai|> it can be modified to produce an engine that can power a car for free
[11:51] <|Malakai|> real time
[11:51] <|Malakai|> constant
[11:51] <|Malakai|> i know it sounds obsurd
[11:52] <rick> dont worry bout thew patent, just give it away
[11:52] <|Malakai|> like a purpetual motion machine
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[11:52] <|Malakai|> a small model (around 30cm) can power a small car
[11:52] <amed> it doesnt really, i've had some images in my head of similar devices, but i havent had the time to apply it to real life.. im sure its possible
[11:52] <QueenVee> IF YOU JUST ENTERED THE ROOM: Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session begins in about 45 minutes. Questions will be moderated, so if you have one you would like to pose you should give it to the moderator now.
[11:52] <|Malakai|> i have a question
[11:53] <QueenVee> ok
[11:53] <|Malakai|> i wonder if the zetas can help with my invention
[11:53] <amed> you should think about releasing those plans before a possible shift though.. that could help a lot of people.. then again STS could get it and make life a living hell
[11:53] <|Malakai|> they have great knowledge yes
[11:53] <QueenVee> no, that is against the rules of interference, malakai
[11:53] <|Malakai|> i cannot release plans
[11:53] <|Malakai|> it isnt interfeirence
[11:53] <cmel> well QV what about the strong storm in austria, blew a train of the tracks, they said in the news
[11:53] <QueenVee> cmel: what about it?
[11:54] <|Malakai|> i just want to know if when i switch it on will it do what i think it will
[11:54] <|Malakai|> there are several things that could happen
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[11:54] <|Malakai|> it could implode and make a BIG mess
[11:54] <QueenVee> Malakai: the zetas have been very clear that they cannot under any circumstances assist with technological questions
[11:54] <QueenVee> hi inky
[11:54] <inkpen1> hello
[11:54] <cmel> is it related to the changes, or is it just one of those freak storms that happens seldomly
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[11:54] <|Malakai|> this will help humanity after the shift
[11:55] <inkpenSmoking> oooppps
[11:55] <cmel> hey smoky
[11:55] <|Malakai|> surely they can at least let me know if im not going to fry if i switch it on
[11:55] <inkpenSmoking> oopps:)
[11:55] <Endeavour3d> if the device is potentially dangerous, I do not see why they could not give vague answers, perhaps Nancy could clearify
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[11:55] <|Malakai|> i dont want to know how to make it better
[11:55] <inkpen> i need some coffee :)
[11:55] <|Malakai|> i just want to know if its not dangerous
[11:55] <Endeavour3d> Malakai, what is your device?
[11:56] <Pegasi_Tristan> Take it to a secluded spot and rig it so you can turn it on at a distance.
[11:56] <|Malakai|> i have nicknamed it
[11:56] <|Malakai|> Inpeller
[11:56] <Endeavour3d> does not have to be a specific answer
[11:56] <|Malakai|> no
[11:56] <|Malakai|> i just want to know if it will be safe to turn on
[11:56] <Pegasi_Tristan> You can easily figure that out yourself.
[11:56] <QueenVee> cmel: well, considering that ZetaTalk already indicates that PX will increasingly cause "freak storms", obviously it is...
[11:56] <rick> after all this, i need a beer
[11:57] <inkpen> heh'
[11:57] <me> After the shift, the U.S, will be turned 90 degrees and be closer to the equator.  The climate will be warmer, but much wetter.  Much wetter means MUCH SNOW in the snow belt.  Will the new Midwest still have snow, or just the new North Coast?
[11:57] <|Malakai|> see i made a very small scale model using hardened plastic. (1 inch in size) when i switched it on it worked for a few seconds then exploded
[11:57] <cmel> I just heard if the earth stops rotating I will float off into space, and that not even because of "the centrifugal force" :)
[11:57] <cmel> hehe QV
[11:57] <QueenVee> The zetas will not answer questions related to technology. End of story. So please do not persist.
[11:57] <Endeavour3d> Malakai, what is your device? What did you design it to do?
[11:57] <|Malakai|> then what questions will they answer
[11:58] <QueenVee> cmel: that was asked earlier in this session and answered
[11:58] <cmel> ok I knew when I read my Q that it was obsolete :(
[11:58] <QueenVee> malakai: anything that does not break the rules of non-intereference....
[11:58] <rick> me thinks, after the shift, tech. will  revert to the early 1800s, an dats ok wit me, ya dont work, ya dont eat
[11:58] <inkpen> malakai: try using metal instaed of plastic
[11:59] <|Malakai|> thats what i want to know the answer to
[11:59] <|Malakai|> if it is safe
[11:59] <jimben> just needed some tips to build  my hyperdrive engine b4 nibiru comes.. :/
[11:59] <inkpen> oh
[11:59] <Endeavour3d> QueenVee, I have a question, shall I post it on the open channel or privately to you?
[11:59] <|Malakai|> nothing else
[11:59] <QueenVee> Endeavour: your choice, but i would prefer here
[11:59] <|Malakai|> i just dont want to get killed trying to produce this for the world
[11:59] <rick> so dont produce it
[12:00] <|Malakai|> hehe
[12:00] <Endeavour3d> Malakai, perhaps if you described what your device does, we might be able to help you, unless it is beyond our comprehension, but I do not see how it could be since I presume you are human
[12:00] <cmel> can you turn it on from afar ?? malakai ?
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[12:00] <rick> produce food, that will be much needed
[12:00] <|Malakai|> also by making a small conversion it can be used to purify water
[12:00] <|Malakai|> it can also be used as an engine for an aircraft
[12:01] <|Malakai|> albeit a very powerful engine
[12:01] <rick> colloidal silver will purify water
[12:01] <QueenVee> Rick: can you tell me in one sentence how colloidal silver is made?
[12:01] <|Malakai|> mathamatically. a 1 meter sized device would be hundreds of times more powerful than anything we could ever have
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[12:02] <Endeavour3d> Malakai, is it a vortex suction water device of some type?
[12:02] <inkpen> hey hbo
[12:02] <HBO> hey hey hey
[12:02] <cmel> hi HBO
[12:02] <|Malakai|> sort of
[12:02] <HBO> everyone well today, I hope
[12:02] <QueenVee> hey HBO
[12:02] <inkpen> tired
[12:02] <me> QueenVee--repeat of question:  Will the current Midwest (Wisconsin in particular) still get snow after the 90-degree shift?  Is that asked OK?
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[12:02] <cmel> yrp
[12:03] <cmel> yep
[12:03] <rick> sure, 27 volts (3 9 volt batteries connected) attached to two silver rods in distilled water for bout 30 min
[12:03] <|Malakai|> it uses vortexes of air to create very dense air wich in turn creates more vortexes and more dense air
[12:03] <|Malakai|> this dense air also produces a vacuum inside the device
[12:03] <|Malakai|> which makes it suck more air in
[12:04] <QueenVee> IF YOU JUST ENTERED THE ROOM: Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session begins in about 45 minutes. Questions for Nancy will be moderated, so if you would like your question considered, you should post it now.
[12:04] <Endeavour3d> I'm going to go ahead and assume that you have somehow redesigned the lost water based vortex suction generator invented by Viktor Shauberger
[12:04] <|Malakai|> this in turn makes the turbine spin faster and faster
[12:04] <|Malakai|> who
[12:04] <|Malakai|> do u have a site
[12:04] <rick> he aint cajun
[12:04] <Endeavour3d> am I correct Malakai?
[12:04] <|Malakai|> not at all
[12:04] <|Malakai|> this doesnt use water
[12:04] <|Malakai|> it uses air
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[12:05] <|Malakai|> but it could be modified to use water i think
[12:05] <inkpen> hi fetus
[12:05] <|Malakai|> do u have a site or some more info on Viktor Shauberger
[12:05] <|Malakai|> i would like to learn about his invention
[12:05] <fetus> hello again
[12:05] <|Malakai|> maybe it could answer a few questions i have
[12:06] <rick> malakail> why dont ya just give the plans out, if its that good, we can all use it, thats what life is all about, aint it ??
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[12:06] <QueenVee> Would anyone like me to post some of the questions that were submitted to Nancy yesterday for consideration?
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[12:06] <Pegasi_Tristan> ok QV
[12:06] <jimben> wat is the concept of planetx is correct but the timeline of planetx timeline is diff?
[12:07] <cmel> nice QV
[12:07] <Endeavour3d> http://www.frank.germano.com/viktorschauberger.htm
[12:07] <|Malakai|> thx
[12:07] <QueenVee> IF YOU JUST ENTERED THE ROOM: Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session begins in 1/2 hour. Questions for Nancy will be moderated, so if you would like your question considered, you should post it now.
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[12:07] <HBO> damn dial up modems
[12:08] <DawnnaLee> Hello Everyone !! i am new at this .
[12:08] <Endeavour3d> Malakai, your device sounds very similar on Viktor Shauberger's device, except you have stated that it uses air instead of water. Perhaps the reason it explodes is because there isn't any water in it :)
[12:08] <inkpen> BRB
[12:08] <QueenVee> DawnnaLee: welcome!
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[12:08] <rick> dont feel alone, got one to
[12:08] <cmel> hi DawnnaLee
[12:08] <DawnnaLee> Hello Queen..and Thanks
[12:08] <DawnnaLee> Hi cmel
[12:08] <QueenVee> OKAY, QUESTION NUMBER ONE: Many human contactees involved in the hybrid program also report being shown visions of future earth cataclysms and memories of receiving some kind of training from zetas for the future. Do such contactees have a specific role to play in the aftertime, involving hybrids or otherwise?
[12:09] <cmel> Nice Q
[12:09] <Mad_Hatter> A good question.
[12:09] <Pegasi_Tristan> Did Nancy happen to mention which ones were accepted?
[12:09] <QueenVee> .8 QUESTION NUMBER TWO: Can the Zetas comment on how and to what extent the brighter appearance of  Mars in August 2003, predicted by Jean Meeus (http://www.rense.com/general31/marstogetclosest.htm) will be used by the ruling elite to dismiss the appearance of Planet X in the sky? And how will the appearance of the two planets in the sky be differentiated?
[12:09] <QueenVee> QUESTION #2: Can the Zetas comment on how and to what extent the brighter appearance of  Mars in August 2003, predicted by Jean Meeus (http://www.rense.com/general31/marstogetclosest.htm) will be used by the ruling elite to dismiss the appearance of Planet X in the sky? And how will the appearance of the two planets in the sky be differentiated?
[12:10] <QueenVee> Pegasi: no, not yet
[12:10] <Pegasi_Tristan> ah, ok
[12:10] <cmel> Thats a nice q as well
[12:10] <Pegasi_Tristan> yeah
[12:10] <QueenVee> QUESTION #3: Can an estimate be provided for lines of latitude drawn through groups of two selected cities throughout the world as it is now, that are estimated to parallel the new equator so it could be used for guesstimations of temperature after things settle down? It will be understood that it will be a broad strokes estimate and not a prediction of the shape of things to come.
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[12:11] <cmel> hey cosmic
[12:11] <QueenVee> IF YOU JUST ENTERED THE ROOM: Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session begins in 1/2 hour. Questions for Nancy will be moderated, so if you would like your question considered, you should post it now.
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[12:11] <QueenVee> NEXT QUESTION: There have been reports of people hearing unexplained "sonic booms" in some areas of the U.S., as per a recent news report about a boom in Central Florida (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/11395). What is causing these noises, and are they related to the "Kokomo Hum" that is being heard in cities around the world? (http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=2108).
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[12:12] <Endeavour3d> QueenVee, my question is about the Yellowstone Caldera, there is a massive lava lake directly under the park. Scientists have stated that over hundreds of thousands of years this lava lake has exploded, they have dubbed it a SuperVolcano. It is said that if this volcano explodes it will be hundreds of times more powerful than the explosion at Mount St. Helens. I would like the Zetas to comment on this please..
[12:12] <Endeavour3d> sorry about the lateness of my question but I was talking to Malakai :)
[12:12] <|Malakai|> thank u endeavour, this is VERY informative. although the device i have made is not the same it uses similar principles of his work. ill read more of this site later. thank you
[12:13] <QueenVee> Endeavour: Can you put that into a specific question?
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[12:13] <Endeavour3d> your welcome, I've been studying his works for the past year, I am very excited about you rediscovering his works since they were lost when the Nazi's were destroyed
[12:13] <|Malakai|> is there life on mars?
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[12:13] <QueenVee> IF YOU JUST ENTERED THE ROOM: Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session begins in 20 minutes. Questions for Nancy will be moderated, so if you would like your question considered, you should post it now.
[12:14] <me> QueenVee--Related to Question #3:  Could the Zetas please estimate how much of the new, turned U.S. will still have snow.  Just the new North Coast?
[12:14] <|Malakai|> endeavour where are u from
[12:14] <|Malakai|> im in the UK
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[12:14] <QueenVee> Me: okay, ask that as a followup question
[12:14] <fetus> I just got an email about 7 nukes in 7 major us cities...anyone else get this??
[12:14] <|Malakai|> nope
[12:14] <Pegasi_Tristan> ?
[12:14] <|Malakai|> where
[12:14] <cmel> me look at the safe places doc
[12:14] <QueenVee> NEXT QUESTION: What has caused the abnormally low tides and drop is sea level recently reported in Australia? (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3004050&thesection=news&thesubsection=general)
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[12:15] <QueenVee> FETUS: that has been confirmed as a hoax
[12:15] <fetus> ah
[12:15] <|Malakai|> where are these questions coming from queen
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[12:15] <cmel> I just read that 45 min agu fetus :)
[12:15] <cmel> ago
[12:15] <me> cmel--I have.  It's still not clear to me.  Do you know?
[12:15] <QueenVee> IF YOU JUST ENTERED THE ROOM: Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session begins in about 15minutes. Questions for Nancy will be moderated, so if you would like your question considered, you should post it now.
[12:16] <QueenVee> Malakai: Questions submitted by email....
[12:16] <cmel> well the equator should be somewhere
[12:16] <cmel> sorry
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[12:16] <cmel> north america should be placed a little more to thr south
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[12:16] <Endeavour3d> QueenVee, I would like the Zetas to state if the Caldera will explode and destroy everything within 500 miles or will it not explode. It is imperetive that we know about what will happen with the caldera. Not only will it kill millions of people surrounding it if it explodes, but it will effect the entire world in a very bad way, even with the pole shift.
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[12:17] <QueenVee> Endeavour: the zetas have already stated that they will not predict earthquakes, volcano eruptions, etc.
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[12:17] <Pegasi_Tristan> I think the Z's said ALL volcanoes will erupt...
[12:17] <QueenVee> NEXT QUESTION: NASA recently announced that it was spending $15,000 to produce and distribute a publication meant to prove that the U.S. moon landing actually happened and that photos and film of the landing were not faked.
[12:17] <gwilra> What is the story about the Giant Crystals discovered in Mexico around Jan through May of 2000?
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[12:18] <QueenVee> Why did NASA decide to take this dramatic step at this particular time, to counter a conspiracy theory that has been around for 30 years? And why did they cancel the project within days of announcing it? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/spacedocumentary/story/0,2763,834416,00.html)
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[12:18] <miguel> queen, i just got the info on precentages in ZT (http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b93.htm)
[12:18] <QueenVee> hi nancy
[12:18] <Pegasi_Tristan> wow, they cancelled that?
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[12:18] <Endeavour3d> they have already stated that every volcano will erupt, the difference here is that the Caldera is a Super Volcano, thousands of times more destructive than any volcano on Earth
[12:18] <inkpen> hello nancy
[12:19] <Endeavour3d> I think alot of people would like to know if it will blow
[12:19] <QueenVee> NANCY: DO YOU HAVE AN AGENDA?
[12:19] <Ogmios> hi Nancy
[12:19] <Endeavour3d> helloe Nancy
[12:19] <NancyL> Queen, I saw your composed Q's but because we got new images from Steve the night of the 11th, and have been working on them (in addition to regular job and all) I didn't even read them.
[12:19] <NancyL> Queen, am relying upon YOU to feed me the proper Q's, one by one, if this is OK.
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[12:20] <QueenVee> NANCY: no problem
[12:20] <Endeavour3d> Steve is back from his vacation? That is good, I hope we see the new images soon
[12:20] <NancyL> Announcement, these new images are links from Team page at http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[12:20] <inkpen> kewl
[12:20] <NancyL> Planet X moved, is brighter, spot on where it should be per Z's, and all this is no fooling!
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[12:21] <Ogmios> much bigger than in oct pics?
[12:21] <inkpen> hey fullmoon and eccles_p
[12:21] <Eccles_P> Hi inkpen
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[12:21] <inkpen> hi pomme_de_terre
[12:21] <pomme_de_terre> hi
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[12:22] <rick> pomme> where u from?
[12:23] <inkpen> hi looheem and duane
[12:23] <cmel> cannuck ?
[12:23] <inkpen> eloheem, sorry
[12:23] <QueenVee> quebecois?
[12:24] <cmel> optonline is canadian right ?
[12:24] <NancyL> Endeavor, the new images are UP, on that page I ref'd.
[12:24] <pomme_de_terre> NJ
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[12:24] <inkpen> hi earlene
[12:24] <rick> ok, name sounded cajun
[12:24] <earlene> Hi
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[12:25] <inkpen> yo sahir
[12:25] <sahir> greets
[12:25] <NancyL> Not so much discernably bigger, but brigher.  Shows up in every frame, where before only in a frame or two but making it thru to the Summary, which means is was on every frame just not bright.
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[12:25] <Virindi> 0.o
[12:25] <HBO> QueenVee, last nights Art bell show dealt with increased military activity all over the US, based on FBI new announcement of "Spectacular" terrorist probable attacks.  Wondering if this is beginning of Bush's move to initiate martial law?
[12:25] <inkpen> hey al and virindi
[12:25] <NancyL> This time, on every frame!  And the red light bending has the red persona UP and to the right, in accordance with the passage of a month, moving close to the winter solstice.
[12:26] <Virindi> hi
[12:26] <jimben> hi Virindi me ixus
[12:26] <rick> beleive so, hbo
[12:26] <QueenVee> ANNOUNCEMENT: Nancy’s ZetaTalk session will begin in 10 minutes. Once the session begins, moderation mode will be on for the duration. Therefore, if you have any questions, comments, you must message them to the Moderator, QueenVee, who will forward the relevant/appropriate ones to Nancy.
[12:26] <Virindi> yah i see
[12:26] <inkpen> wow sure is filling up here :)
[12:26] <jimben> ^^
[12:26] <xenshin> What is Bush trying to accompish by imposing martial law and limiting people's civil liberties?
[12:26] <cmel> HBO or maybe just sabrerattling/excercise
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[12:26] <inkpen> hey bailey
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[12:27] <Endeavour3d> a foundation world domination
[12:27] <inkpen> hi zetapal
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[12:27] <Endeavour3d> a foundation FOR world domination I should say
[12:27] <Zetapal> Hi Guys :)
[12:27] <Eloheem> I quit my job, im getting ready for the shift, money is running out already for my family, but it wont be much different after the shift
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[12:27] <cmel> perhaps 3d
[12:27] <rick> what world
[12:27] <inkpen> hey gary
[12:27] <Bailey> greetings, full room today :o)
[12:27] <QueenVee> NANCY: DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU THE QUESTIONS ONE BY ONE, OR ALL IN A BUNCH SO THAT YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE?
[12:27] <cosmic`> Eloheem, you quit your job?
[12:28] <Eloheem> yes
[12:28] <xenshin> heh probably
[12:28] <Eloheem> i need to get ready for the sohift
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[12:28] <NancyL> I worked from 4 AM to just a few minutes ago on the Nov 11 images, and JWilliam was up all night Thursday night, literally.  
[12:28] <cosmic`> what do u need to do for the shift?
[12:28] <inkpen> hi justlistening
[12:29] <Eloheem> build a basement, get grain, etc.
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[12:29] <NancyL> Queen, can you give me the bunch, yes, private?  I see you're up there private message.  Thanks/
[12:29] <Eloheem> everything that zetatalk says
[12:29] <Eloheem> the zetas know
[12:29] <inkpen> ah oh...dont try to open a fts page without a fts viewer :)
[12:29] <QueenVee> 1,11 PLEASE NOTE THAT THE ZETATALK SESSION DEVOTED TO REGIONAL QUESTIONS WILL BE NEXT WEEK. SO EMAIL ANY SPECIFIC REGIONAL QUESTIONS TO ME AT queenvee59@hotmail.com.
[12:29] <Bailey> Nancy, thanks for all your efforts, I am usualy up by 4 am too,
[12:29] <QueenVee> ANNOUNCEMENT: Nancy’s ZetaTalk session will begin in 5 minutes. Once the session begins, moderation mode will be on for the duration. Therefore, if you have any questions, comments, you must message them to the Moderator, QueenVee, who will forward the relevant/appropriate ones to Nancy.
[12:30] <inkpen> crikie
[12:30] <cosmic`> what's the point in being in a basement?
[12:30] <QueenVee> NANCY: SEE PRIVATE MESSAGE
[12:30] <Eloheem> we'll be protected from the tornados
[12:31] <Eloheem> and from people trying to steal our food
[12:31] <Eloheem> they will be the ones eating worms, not us
[12:31] <cmel> you'll be out of the way of flying debris
[12:31] * cosmic` likes worms
[12:31] <cmel> :)
[12:31] <inkpen> high in protien
[12:31] <Virindi> so what the world is going to end next year?
[12:31] <NancyL> I'm ready to start anytime Queen is ready ...
[12:31] <Eloheem> yes, the zetas said
[12:32] <rick> dont forget weapons
[12:32] <Virindi> so hows it gonna end?
[12:32] <DawnnaLee> I just found out aND DIDNT DO ANYTHING...AM i TOO LATE?
[12:32] <NancyL> Note, we by agreement are NOT going to address silly Q's, like "is the world going to end", as this is already in ZetaTalk 101, all you need to do is READ before attending, etc.
[12:32] <Eloheem> DawnnaLee you are doomed
[12:32] <DawnnaLee> GOD SAVES
[12:32] <cmel> I you are DL, then I am to :)
[12:32] <rick> world not gonna end
[12:33] <Virindi> ...
[12:33] <Eloheem> its gonna end as we know it
[12:33] <Bailey> people are more apt to go stir crazy and shoot there family and friends rather than confronted with an intruder
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[12:33] <inkpen> hi faxit
[12:33] <rick> this epoch
[12:33] <cmel> and I found out about this in 98
[12:33] <NancyL> I'm going to start.  1st Q posted is:
[12:33] <jimben> just me and my hyberspace engine.~
[12:33] <NancyL> Q1:  Many human contactees involved in the hybrid program also report being shown visions of future earth cataclysms and memories of receiving some kind of training from zetas for the future. Do such contactees have a specific role to play in the aftertime, involving hybrids or otherwise?
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[12:34] <NancyL> ZT: Contactees, during the current lifetime, whether contacted years ago or recently as a result of giving The Call because of current Earth Changes and general anxiety over this, are informed of the coming cataclysms.
[12:34] <NancyL> ZT: We, the Zetas, believe in empowering humans with the truth, no matter how horrific, allowing the contactee to sort out what they want to do about this.
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[12:35] <NancyL> ZT: Many alien visitors are less blunt, and explain the future as a time of change, of movement toward a better world.
[12:35] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, not ALL contactees are given the full picture, but are aware of changes pending.
[12:36] <NancyL> ZT: Many contactees recall receiving instructions, on where to go, how to operate machinery, or instruction that they have difficulty retrieving for some reason, are blocking.
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[12:36] <NancyL> ZT: It is the Contactee, in all cases, who volunteers for a role, and if deemed suitable for this role, this is explored further.
[12:37] <NancyL> ZT: Under no circumstances are contactees put in charge of other humans, by ourselves or other visitors assisting in the Transformation.
[12:37] <NancyL> ZT: Any assumption of this is an ego trip by the contactee.
[12:38] <NancyL> ZT: Contactees may have decided to help their neighbors, as guides, or help with the injured, in easing their pain and anxiety, or to help inform people in the last days.
[12:38] <NancyL> ZT: Much of what they determine to be a good role for themselves generates anxiety, and thus is suppressed until it need to dealt with.
[12:39] <NancyL> ZT: This is a type or timed release, where the contactee is in cooperation with blocking and isolating the information in their subconscious.
[12:39] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, as it is so very individual, and varies by individual, just what the role or roles are cannot really be addressed.
[12:39] <NancyL> End ZT followup?
[12:40] <QueenVee> PLEASE MESSAGE ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS/COMMENTS TO THE MODERATOR, QUEENVEE, WHO WILL IN TURN FORWARD THE RELEVANT ONES TO NANCY FOR RESPONSE.
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[12:40] <NancyL> I can also handle the second Q quickly, as it does not require ZT.
[12:40] <NancyL> Q2:  Can the Zetas comment on how and to what extent the brighter appearance of  Mars in August 2003, predicted by Jean Meeus (http://www.rense.com/general31/marstogetclosest.htm) will be used by the ruling elite to dismiss the appearance of Planet X in the sky? And how will the appearance of the two planets in the sky be differentiated?
[12:40] <QueenVee> OKAY NANCY
[12:41] <NancyL> Position in the sky, it the key.  
[12:41] <NancyL> The Zetas are extremely specific as to where to sight Planet X, and I'm sure it and Mars are nowhere near the same spot in the sky.
[12:42] <NancyL> So, 1. check the RA and Dec or just the general area of the sky, with the graphics and info provided in ZT and the Team page on Sightings.
[12:42] <NancyL> 2. a second differentiator is that Planet X will be SO much larger and brighter in the 7 weeks before the shift, and Mars could not possibly be that large unless it has left its orbit.
[12:43] <NancyL> This is, frankly, just another one of many attempt to get the common man confused, like called every new rock out there "Planet X".
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[12:43] <NancyL> Also, Q3 is easy, no new ZT required:
[12:43] <QueenVee> FOLLOWUP QUESTION FROM FAXIT: *faxit* How can we reconnect with the mission we planned for ourselves before coming to earth and play the role we planned for ourselves?
[12:43] <NancyL> Q3:  Can an estimate be provided for lines of latitude drawn through groups of two selected cities throughout the world as it is now, that are estimated to parallel the new equator so it could be used for guesstimations of temperature after things settle down? It will be understood that it will be a broad strokes estimate and not a prediction of the shape of things to come.
[12:44] <NancyL> Indeed, if you look at the New Geo page (http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p10.htm) or the Pole Shift TEAM page (http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam02.htm) you can guestimate your latitude.
[12:45] <NancyL> Add to this the new westerly winds, whether these winds will go over water or land to see how deserts may form (also see the Deserts page in ZT Pole Shift)
[12:45] <NancyL> Then assume the Earth NO COLDER than today, which is what the Z's have said.
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[12:46] <NancyL> And you will have your new climate :-)
[12:46] <QueenVee> OKAY, I'M ENDING MODERATION MODE FOR FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS/COMMENTS. PLEASE ASK RELEVANT QUESTIONS ONLY.
[12:46] <NancyL> ZT to Faxit: Your mission does not require re-connecting, as it is within YOU.  YOU hold this, as well as information on all conferrences or presentations you have been given.
[12:47] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, in seeking your personal mission, seek this within yourself!  
[12:47] <NancyL> ZT: If this is blocked, it is because YOU chose to be blocked.  Do not bother Nancy with insistance that she tell you what is in your own subconscious!
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[12:47] <QueenVee> uh oh
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[12:48] <QueenVee> we'll just wait for nancy to reconnect....
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[12:48] <QueenVee> wb nancy
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[12:48] <NancyL> OK, so I  missed any followup Q's, beyond Faxit.
[12:48] <QueenVee> sorry about that nancy
[12:49] <QueenVee> OKAY, I'M ENDING MODERATION MODE FOR FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS/COMMENTS. PLEASE ASK RELEVANT QUESTIONS ONLY.
[12:49] * QueenVee sets mode: -m
[12:49] <QueenVee> Everyone can talk now
[12:49] <NancyL> And I lost Queens list of Q's.
[12:49] <DRGREEN> hello everyone.
[12:49] <NancyL> Queen, could you post on the log here, as they all seem to be good Q's.
[12:49] <Eloheem> Hello man, how r u?
[12:49] <jimben> hi NancyL and all~
[12:49] <DawnnaLee> Hello Dr Green
[12:49] <NancyL> I think we covered the first 3.
[12:49] <censurship> Hi Nancy
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[12:49] <QueenVee> NANCY: I'll message you the rest....
[12:50] <NancyL> In case it was lost, the Faxit answer was that this is all within his own subconscious, in HIS control to access or block as he wishes.
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[12:50] <NancyL> Q4:  There have been reports of people hearing unexplained "sonic booms" in some areas of the U.S., as per a recent news report about a boom in Central Florida (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/11395). What is causing these noises, and are they related to the "Kokomo Hum" that is being heard in cities around the world? (http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=2108).
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[12:51] <NancyL> By the way, I heard from a contractor who worked on the Kokomo stuff, and he confirmed that underground bunkers were constructed.  I took this guy to be legit.
[12:52] <NancyL> ZT: Booms and flashes have been on the increase for several years now, getting in the press a couple year back.
[12:52] <NancyL> ZT: Booms as we explained at that time are due to heaving of the earth, such that an air pressure drop is experienced in one place, a rush TO this place from the sides.
[12:53] <NancyL> ZT: This is what causes thunder claps, where lighning creates super-heated air, a temporary void, and the air on the sides comes together with a clap.
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[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: These heaving earth syndroms can be experienced over land, or over water, but have the same cause.
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[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: Flashes are escaping methane, which lies in pools everywhere from trapped rotting material from prior pole shifts.
[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: This hisses upward, lighting from some cause or other, and is a flash of light.
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[12:55] <NancyL> ZT: Since earth movements are now increasing, more instantaneous, more violent, than prior years, booms and flashes can be expected to be on the rise too.
[12:55] <NancyL> End ZT followup:
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[12:55] <QueenVee> everyone can talk now
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[12:56] <QueenVee> NANCY: Steve asks Is the catastrophic effects of the poleshift pretty much set or could they still vary ?
[12:56] <Pegasi_Tristan> Q: Can we expect devastation such as tunguska from said methane escapes?
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[12:56] <cmel> nice q pegasi
[12:57] <NancyL> ZT to Steve: We are increasingly asked this question by the desperate, who hope this was all an exercise in New Age communications.
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[12:57] <NancyL> ZT: Do you expect the Sun not to rise tomorrow, or the Moon to appear sometime during the 24 hour period?
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[12:58] <NancyL> ZT: The arrival of the 12th Planet/Planet X, is a predictable, normal, astrophysical event in your part of the Universe.
[12:58] <NancyL> ZT: Like cancer and lightning strikes and meterors falling from the sky, such matters that are normal to your world may not be pleasant, but you live with them today.
[12:59] <NancyL> ZT: Prior pole shifts were not averted, despite the agony and wishes of those contemplating the inbound red dragon in the sky.
[12:59] <NancyL> ZT: Is childhood cancer cured today, because it is a horrific thing to contemplate?  
[13:00] <NancyL> ZT: Is death following an accidental injury to a person in the prime of their life, someone whom the family depends upon and who does not WISH to die, averted?
[13:00] <NancyL> ZT: In like manner, just because this is horrific, does not mean that special circumstances prevail.
[13:01] <NancyL> ZT: Your life on this Earth is for YOU to learn how to help your fellow man, to stretch into the opportunity.
[13:01] <NancyL> ZT: In this regard, the pole shift affords all humans an opportunity they can either 1. avoid, or 2. accept.
[13:02] <NancyL> ZT: NONE will be spared being offered this opportunity.  And thus, the clarification of a persons orientation will be acutely established.
[13:02] <NancyL> End ZT Followup:
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[13:02] <QueenVee> everyone can talk
[13:02] <Shaman464> when will it be visable to telescopes
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[13:02] <Eloheem> When will be able to see PX on telescopes?
[13:02] <DRGREEN> It should be visible now, depends on scope.
[13:02] <QueenVee> ANNOUNCEMENT: Okay, we tried strict moderation during follow-up questions, but that just proved too onerous and not conducive to spontaneity. So please be advised it will not be used in future.
[13:03] <NancyL> ZT to Pegasi: Tunguska was an exception as the tundra of Siberia was LUSH prior to being frozen, and thus a great deal of rotting grasslands were trapped.
[13:03] <obany> Shaman464: that is not a real question for this channel ... eloheem the same thing counts for you
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[13:03] <Eloheem> obany: why not?
[13:03] <NancyL> ZT: You can expect, in future, that the frozen Amazon basis will afford such explosions.
[13:03] <idol_harobed> :)
[13:03] <NancyL> End ZT to Pegasi.
[13:03] <Eloheem> obany: isnt that on what all of this is based?
[13:03] <QueenVee> Eloheem: next time you will be booted.
[13:04] <obany> Eloheem: this is for pole shift and questions related to the aftertime .. there is another channel where other questions can be asked, but not in this channel
[13:04] <NancyL> Eloheem, Steve Havas is renting a 11.8" scope, which is amateur size.  I'm not sure about smaller amateur scopes at this time.
[13:05] <QueenVee> NANCY: Has everyone on earth already make a pre-birth decision as to whether they will survive the shift or not?
[13:05] <cmel> allthough the amazon basin will be hundreds of years in generating so much gas
[13:05] <NancyL> OK, onto Q4 then ...
[13:05] <inkpen> wow you can rent them?
[13:05] <NancyL> Q4:  What has caused the abnormally low tides and drop is sea level recently reported in Australia? (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3004050&thesection=news&thesubsection=general)
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[13:06] <NancyL> ZT: Lately, over the past couple months, there have been usually severe storms striking the UK, higher winds than expected.
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[13:07] <NancyL> ZT: Likewise, in the US, which share the northern hemisphere, atypical cold followed by temps so warm all went out in short sleeves even in the north, although it was technically winter.
[13:08] <NancyL> ZT: This cause a series of tornadoes to roar across the US, in a belt from south to north, out of season and extreme even IN season.
[13:08] <NancyL> ZT: Going into the last few months before the shift, the weather will not simply continue as it has over the past few years, with unseasonable temps and droughts and deluges unexplanable by the weatherman.
[13:09] <NancyL> ZT: It will get MORE so, more extreme, more out of season, more violent.
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[13:09] <NancyL> ZT: We have stated that the weather, and hurricanes, will not get more violent than man has experienced in the past.
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[13:10] <NancyL> ZT: This is due to a braking mechanism that the atmosphere itself imposes, air masses only able to move so fast when pushing against other air masses and the like.
[13:10] <NancyL> ZT: However, this is not to say that if you only anticipate tornodoes in a certain season, that they will not come OUT of season, or in countries no yet experiencing tornadoes.
[13:11] <NancyL> ZT: This is not to say that hurricanes will not develop SUDDENLY, rather than track across the seas and be predictible.
[13:12] <NancyL> ZT: This is not to say that snow storms will not drop several feet of snow where snow has never fallen, or that those areas relyant upon snow for their tourist season in winter find the spring flowers there instead.
[13:12] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, tides that are related to storms such as hurricanes can be expected along coastlines.
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[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: Storn surge, where water several feet higher than normal surges inland, will be experienced EVEN WITHOUT a hurricane known in the area.
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[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: The hurricane, suddenly forming and dissipating just as suddenly, amy leave its only mark in this way.
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[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: Likewise, if a storm surge developed out at sea, water in the nearby areas may drop in level, temporarily.
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[13:14] <NancyL> ZT: Expect the unexpected, increasingly, as the shift approaches.
[13:14] <NancyL> End ZT Followup?
[13:14] <QueenVee> NANCY: when you say, the weather will not get more violent that man has experienced in the past, do you mean no more violent than during previous poleshifts, or no more so than in "normal" periods?
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[13:14] <HBO> NancyL: Roughly, how long will it take for the lower lying inlands (below 600SL) to become flooded following PS?
[13:14] <gyflex> will coastal areas now below sea level  be under water permanently  months before the shift?
[13:14] <QueenVee> everyone can talk now
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[13:15] <NancyL> QUEEN, they mean by this, not in the memory of man. In fact, prior pole shifts did not have hurricanes worse, etc, than experienced today.
[13:15] <DRGREEN> Nancy, will the Netherlands be flooded soon? Should we get out of here before 1st of may?
[13:15] <NancyL> Its a matter not of degree, but of frequency and location, that will astonish man.
[13:15] <twice_a_shift_on_my_keyboard> Yep intresting ...for obany maybe also...
[13:16] <Endeavour3d> 1st of May? more like the 1st of March
[13:16] <NancyL> HBO, within 2 years after the shift, and I suppose one could use a lineal measure on that, fairly  much.
[13:16] <QueenVee> ANNOUNCEMENT: Please note that the next ZetaTalk Session in this room (next Saturday) will deal with specific questions on your region of the world. So please email such questions to me at queenvee59@hotmail.com this week.
[13:16] <NancyL> The old poles go under the Equatorial sun, which though behind clouds is still warming things.
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[13:16] <DRGREEN> thanks queen.
[13:16] <LadyInRed-smoking> ty Queen
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[13:16] <NancyL> The water in the oceans is getting heated by the heaved and heated ground under the oceans, so warms from the bottom up.
[13:17] <Mansur> Nancy, does zetans have any monetary system? if so, what is their currency called?
[13:17] <obany> well some weeks ago there was a very rough storm in Europe, England, Netherlands, Germany.  For what i just read in the answer we can expect more of that ...
[13:17] <obany> Mansur: NOT related
[13:17] <Eloheem> why do the zetas need time to answer other parts of the world questions? they need to check up on some enciclopedia?
[13:17] <idol_harobed> Great, Queen!  Need to know about Brazil. :)
[13:17] <NancyL> So the ice melts pretty quickly, and the water heats up, and all this is pushed upward right after the shift by the surface itself having been heated an buckling, etc. so don't WAIT, get in your boat.
[13:17] <QueenVee> Mansur: not related; please do not persist in asking such questions
[13:17] <inkpen> mansur...why would they need money?
[13:17] <DRGREEN> Yes obany, I was wondering if I should start moving, or wait for the red star.
[13:18] <Endeavour3d> they don't have currency, the only reason we have money is because of greed
[13:18] <QueenVee> Eloheem: this is your last warning
[13:18] <Mansur> Sure is relevant. Wnat to buy a ZetaBurger after the poleshift
[13:18] <NancyL> ZT to Gyflex: It was news when it was first observed, but went into coverup mode quickly.
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[13:18] <obany> well doubt that waiting until the red star is a good thing to do .. better move before that time i think
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[13:18] <NancyL> ZT: The oceans are rising, and the poles melting, and islands in the Pacific disappearing under the seas.
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[13:19] <NancyL> ZT: Will the trend continue, and how MUCH will coastal cities be affected?
[13:19] <NancyL> ZT: Even without storm surges hitting a coastal city, they will be inundated on occasion and to a certain extent before the shift.
[13:20] <NancyL> ZT: This will be first noticed when the sewers back up, and then when the beaches disappear.
[13:20] <NancyL> ZT: And then when normal tide and wave action simply takes out coastline housing.
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[13:20] <NancyL> ZT: Wetlands along the coast will become salty, and then inland bays.
[13:21] <NancyL> ZT: In that increasing earthquake will be taking cities down, earth movement imploding cities, at these times, this will scarsely be the biggest concern.
[13:21] <NancyL> End ZT to Gyflex.
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[13:21] <QueenVee> follow-up questions?
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[13:21] <gyflex> thank you
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[13:22] <spanky> i heard that there are spots (like your writeup about Edmonton) where some cities will partly survive
[13:22] <QueenVee> spanky:  Please note that the next ZetaTalk Session in this room (next Saturday) will deal with specific questions on your region of the world. So please email such questions to me at queenvee59@hotmail.com this week.
[13:22] <NancyL> ZT to DrGreen: The Netherlands, or other areas maintained by dikes, are risky at all time, but especially during times when earth movement and rising seas will simlutaneiously put pressure on the dikes.
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[13:23] <NancyL> ZT: You will have to move anyway, eventually, and it is YOUR choise whether you stay to find you bed afloat and all being washed out to sea or leave early.
[13:23] <NancyL> End ZT to DrGreen.
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[13:23] <QueenVee> follow up
[13:23] <obany> i can agree with that also in fact, not a realy save country
[13:23] <DRGREEN> Thank you. It's difficult. I'm still not sure enough, although every bone in my body tells me otherwise.
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[13:24] <NancyL> Spanky, most cities have brick and mortal, which is wrecked by quakes of Richter 9.  VERY few structures will stand.
[13:24] <cmel> neither is denmark
[13:24] <DRGREEN> obany has the same problems I guess.
[13:25] <NancyL> Q5: An article appeared in the Boston Globe recently, deriding Nancy, ZetaTalk, and the possibility of a poleshift. Could an article like this, appearing in a mainstream newspaper, actually help to pique the public’s interest in the poleshift, even though its intent is to debunk? (http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/309/science/X_doesn_t_mark_the_spot+.shtml)
[13:25] <NancyL> Short answer, YES!  :-)
[13:25] <Endeavour3d> I read that in the Globe
[13:25] <cmel> QV?
[13:25] <QueenVee> yes?
[13:25] <DRGREEN> I would say that's good news yes.
[13:25] <NancyL> I thought that myself, the dopes.  People keep posting on sci.astro saying "if someone is a crazy, you just walk past, don't stand there and argue" :-)
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[13:25] <QueenVee> THAT'S THE END OF THE LIST OF QUESTIONS
[13:25] <obany> well moving before this things will occur is important... before it will get worse
[13:26] <QueenVee> PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS NOW
[13:26] <NancyL> Q6:  NASA recently announced that it was spending $15,000 to produce and distribute a publication meant to prove that the U.S. moon landing actually happened and that photos and film of the landing were not faked. Why did NASA decide to take this dramatic step at this particular time, to counter a conspiracy theory that has been around for 30 years?
[13:26] <DRGREEN> and that's a good point. This will boost interest I guess, people wondering why this article appeared.
[13:26] <LadyInRed-smoking> im not moving
[13:26] <LadyInRed-smoking> will stay with my family
[13:26] <NancyL> Q6 More:  And why did they cancel the project within days of announcing it? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/spacedocumentary/story/0,2763,834416,00.html)
[13:26] <Endeavour3d> I'm interested as to why people always try to debunk things, even if they seem very possible, why do people do such things? I feel it is because they are afraid of the unknown
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[13:26] <QueenVee> ONE MORE QUESTION
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[13:27] <NancyL> ZT: NASA of late has been dealing with its many failures, its inability to get a space station operational in time to stage escapess to Mars, and the months upon months of delays getting any shuttles up at all.
[13:27] <NancyL> ZT: Wanting to be a player, perhaps be viewed as important by the elite with money and bunkers and guns, they hope to be influential in the public eye.
[13:28] <NancyL> ZT: They have for years denied the public direct Hubble images, been caught endlessly air brushing out UFO's, and are suspected all around the world of a conspriacy regarding the Moon landing itself.
[13:29] <NancyL> ZT: Well of course they went to the Moon, and landed, but they ALSO filmed footage on Earth to fill in, as they could not trust their own men to avoid blurting out the truth.
[13:30] <NancyL> ZT: Now, covered with the lint of decades of lies and deception, and the increasing pool of specific information on just WHEN and HOW they have lied, they come from declaring themselves clean.
[13:30] <NancyL> zT: Why did they announced new information regarding the Moon landing, and then withdraw?
[13:31] <NancyL> ZT: There was a final rehearsal, and all the many glitches that would only INFLAME the conspiracy theoriest were discovered.
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[13:31] <NancyL> ZT: This pig is too dirty to EVER clean up, and the less they say, the better, was the decision.
[13:31] <NancyL> End ZT.
[13:31] * QueenVee sets mode: -m
[13:31] <NancyL> Its the end of the hour, folks, and I must have a break between sessions.  Bye until next week!
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[13:32] <QueenVee> THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR A GREAT SESSION! Next week’s session will be devoted to questions about poleshift/aftertime conditions in your particular region. Please email all such questions to me at queenvee59@hotmail.com in advance, so that Nancy can consider them in advance.
[13:32] <inkpen> seeya nancy
[13:32] <Pegasi_Tristan> ty Nancy
[13:32] <holland> bye
[13:32] <cmel> later
[13:32] <Shaman464> bye
[13:32] <idol_harobed> Thanks!
[13:32] <Steve> thanks nancy
[13:32] <QueenVee> Nancy will be doing another ZetaTalk Session in the #zetatalk channel in 1/2 hr, where questions will be wide open.
[13:32] <inkpen> heh
[13:32] <gwilra> thanks N.L.
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[13:32] <DawnnaLee> bye and THANKS!!!!!
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[13:32] <Endeavour3d> goodbye
[13:32] <inkpen> kewl
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[13:32] <holland> bye Zetans
[13:32] <holland> bye
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[13:32] <Mad_Hatter> Thanks Nancy!
[13:32] <spanky> cool i finally dont missit because of work...
[13:33] <QueenVee> To get to the #zetatalk channel, simply thpe the following, then hit enter:  /join #zetatalk
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[13:33] <obany> of course during that session you can't demand for answers either ...
[13:33] <inkpen> BRB
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[13:33] <spanky> the zetas should get 5 or more emmisaries.
[13:33] <LadyInRed> brb
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[13:34] <obany> spanky: doesn't work that way i htink
[13:34] <holland> En hoe moet dat nou verder met Nolly...zo dicht aan zee?
[13:34] <holland> Nolly gonna die
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[13:34] <Mike-O> Thanks, QV
[13:34] <QueenVee> :-)
[13:34] <obany> mzzls nollie je zal het is niet wezen
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[13:34] <Mad_Hatter> Excellent job QueenVee.
[13:35] <holland> mzzls
[13:35] <QueenVee> IF ANYONE WANTS TO BE ON THE MAILING LIST FOR FUTURE ZETATALK SESSIONS IN THIS CHANNEL, PLEASE MESSAGE ME YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS PRIVATELY.
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[13:35] <from_Texas> yes indeed most excellent QV
[13:35] <me> QueenVee--What is that symbol right before "join zetatalk"?  Don't see it on my keyboard.  
[13:35] <QueenVee> thanks, Mad. it was fun
[13:35] <QueenVee> me: it's a slash
[13:35] <QueenVee> it's usually under the question mark
[13:35] <me> Thanks.
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[13:35] <Bailey> had to ask a silly playfull question, will someone adopt me and put me to work, I feel lost, alone and useless, biting my nails when I could be doing something productive for the shift and others :o) (I know Obany, not related and silly, "smooch")
[13:35] <cmel> that is queenvee59@hotmail.com right
[13:36] <QueenVee> right
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[13:36] <jwilliam> QV: Thanks for hosting. See you after Zetatalk
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[13:36] <obany> Baily: well you might have noticed that Nancy is taking a break. in about 20 minuts there will be another session in #zetatalk
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[13:36] <TerrorDactyl> lo all
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[13:37] <me> "Bye, all.  Thanks.
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[13:37] <TerrorDactyl> was nancy tickle my fancy here?
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[13:37] <tied2> has Nancy been here?
[13:37] <Endeavour3d> yep
[13:37] <TerrorDactyl> she say anything new?
[13:37] <tizza> been an gone
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[13:37] <Bailey> Obany,does that mean you are not going to kick me this time :o)
[13:38] <obany> Bailey: that depends on it
[13:38] <QueenVee> NANCY'S SESSION IN HERE IS OVER. HER NEXT SESSION STARTS IN THE #zetatalk CHANNEL IN ABOUT 20 MINUTES
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[13:38] <TerrorDactyl> did she say anything new though?
[13:38] <QueenVee> Terror: you can read the log tomorrow
[13:38] <Endeavour3d> I'm thinking of starting a zetatalk forum, dunno if I will though
[13:38] <QueenVee> Endeavour: and what would that one deal with?
[13:38] <obany> terrordactil: yes,. and there are new pictures also : http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
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[13:39] <TerrorDactyl> well, just more pixels to me, i need to see it shining red in the sky through my window
[13:40] <spanky> it will look like a big photon torpedo coming at you.
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[13:40] <spanky> i wonder if the 5th element was influeneced by talk of the 12th
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[13:40] <spanky> the nexus in Star Trek Generation also looks a bit like the giant comet's tail
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[13:41] <obany> terrordactil: one day you will see it i am sure of that , hope you will still have the time then to move  to a safe place then if you only will take it serious when you see it with your own eyes,  with denying the weather changes etc
[13:42] <TerrorDactyl> As they say in the US, "get you ass over to #zetatalk"
[13:42] <Endeavour3d> what the hell? you can't compare Generations with PX, no relation :P
[13:42] <TerrorDactyl> obany, you are right about weather changes, but that doesn't mean Px is causing it
[13:43] <QueenVee> okay, i have to go and walk the dog. see you all later.
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[13:43] <tied2> bye
[13:43] <Bailey> Remember, this is the PX pollshift believers room, not a debate room
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[13:44] <TerrorDactyl> its a discussion room
[13:44] <TerrorDactyl> ...and i am discussing
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[13:44] <PGill> when does the session with nancy start?
[13:45] <obany> the one over here already stoppped but in #zetatalk it will start in about 16 min from now
[13:45] <Bailey> #zetatalk
[13:45] <TerrorDactyl> 20 mins
[13:45] <PGill> o ok
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[13:45] <PGill> just got in a car accident, couldnt remember when the one in here started :\
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[13:46] <Bailey> oh dear PGill, you OK
[13:46] <Starstalker> You OK, PGill???
[13:46] <TerrorDactyl> no he died
[13:46] <PGill> yea it was nothing big, the guy behind me was driving too fast and when i turned he slid and hit the side of my car
[13:47] <Bailey> you are a terror today LOL
[13:47] <TerrorDactyl> lol
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[13:47] <Bailey> is the car drivable?
[13:47] <TerrorDactyl> no its a ford
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