[10:53] <QueenVee> Groomee: WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 2 hours. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[10:53] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
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[10:54] <obany> sigh even ouf friend silk is saying agiain that there is nothing there ... what else to expect from sarah mc
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[10:54] <QueenVee> hey michaells
[10:54] <michaellss> hi
[10:55] <michaellss> nice looking and handling website there QV
[10:56] <QueenVee> gee, thanks
[10:56] <michaellss> just checkin in gotta clean house quick back soon
[10:56] <QueenVee> do you do windows?
[10:56] <michaellss> hehe
[10:57] <michaellss> girlfriends got that part
[10:57] <michaellss> i do floors laundry and kitchen lol
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[10:57] <michaellss> bbl
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[10:59] <SteveH> back
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[11:00] <QueenVee> hello green tree
[11:00] <greentree> hi QueenVee :) :)
[11:00] <cmell> hi
[11:00] <greentree> hi cmell :) :)
[11:00] <QueenVee> WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 90 minutes. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[11:00] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[11:01] <QueenVee> hiya cmell
[11:01] <QueenVee> greentree: don't think i've seen you here before -- where are you from?
[11:01] <greentree> i'm froggy
[11:01] <greentree> i just had trouble getting on so i changed my name
[11:01] <QueenVee> ah, hi froggy -- can you change your nick back?
[11:02] <greentree> but that was the problem
[11:02] <QueenVee> but you're on now....
[11:02] <greentree> yes, glad to
[11:02] <QueenVee> just type this: /nick froggy
[11:02] <greentree> nick froggy
[11:02] <greentree> lol
[11:03] <QueenVee> ya need the slash  /nick froggy
[11:03] <QueenVee> any command in IRC needs a slash ( / ) in front of it
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[11:04] <Inside-Revolution> is here anybody from america?
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[11:05] <groomee> i'm from utah
[11:05] <Inside-Revolution> is here anybody from america?
[11:05] <QueenVee> congrats, frogg
[11:05] <froggy> thank you very much
[11:05] <Inside-Revolution> Which country you live in America?
[11:05] <QueenVee> inside: most here are from america....
[11:05] <QueenVee> inside: America is a country
[11:05] <Sano> so many thoughts in my head and questions....that i couldnt realize them here...:)
[11:05] <Inside-Revolution> America is a continent
[11:05] <SteveH> logging off now for a while
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[11:05] <QueenVee> The United States = America
[11:05] <Inside-Revolution> United States of America is the name of a country I think
[11:05] <QueenVee> no, North America is a continent
[11:06] <Inside-Revolution> I see
[11:06] <QueenVee> America = United States
[11:06] <QueenVee> North America = Canada, the United States, and Mexico
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[11:06] <Inside-Revolution> yes I thought that about America
[11:07] <QueenVee> hello justfine9
[11:07] <justfine9> hello
[11:07] <QueenVee> WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 90 minutes. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[11:07] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
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[11:07] <QueenVee> well
[11:08] <humvee> short span of attention i guess
[11:08] <Sano> QueenVee u so modest America=US :)))
[11:08] <Inside-Revolution> after the poleshift will be not dictatory by armys?
[11:08] <obany> Inside-Revolution: nah
[11:08] <Sano> Eurasia = Russian Impire
[11:08] <Inside-Revolution> what will the army ships do with soldiers?
[11:08] <Inside-Revolution> like whom attack Iraq
[11:09] <Sano> Iraq??? u troubles that???
[11:09] <Inside-Revolution> ?
[11:09] <obany> i don't think that they those in control with take care of their soldiers after the shift ...
[11:09] <obany> how can they
[11:09] <Inside-Revolution> maybe on the water they will have no problem
[11:10] <Inside-Revolution> and be healthy after the shitf
[11:10] <Sano> Inside-Revolution for what u need attack iraq after poleshift?? when will be destabilization with economy?
[11:10] <Inside-Revolution> I think before the shift
[11:10] <cmell> no they can't, they will be locked in time capsules ( just a little hope of mine )
[11:10] <Inside-Revolution> US want attack Iraq to help economy
[11:10] <Sano> when will be destabilization with economy
[11:11] <QueenVee> brb
[11:11] <Inside-Revolution> US has very big weapon industry
[11:11] <obany> Inside-Revolution: for other purposes check zetatalk
[11:11] <Sano> Inside-Revolution in nowadays
[11:11] <Inside-Revolution> and wars are good business fro US
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[11:11] <obany> come on
[11:11] <Sano> but after poleshift...who cares???
[11:11] <obany> Sano: right ....
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[11:13] <Inside-Revolution> why was post to spring the core move?
[11:13] <Queen-away> hello BlazeNY
[11:13] <Inside-Revolution> instead of November
[11:13] <BlazeNY> Hello Queen and to all
[11:13] <Inside-Revolution> why was post to spring the core movie?
[11:13] <cmell> hi
[11:13] <Inside-Revolution> Hello
[11:13] <Queen-away> WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 90 minutes. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[11:13] <Queen-away> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
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[11:13] <Sano> Inside-Revolution u thinks that u police of world....but u r Hangster of the world....(iraq,ygoslavia,...)
[11:14] <BlazeNY> Do you know where I could find real live groups of people near my home in Albany NY to join?
[11:14] <Inside-Revolution> me?
[11:14] <Inside-Revolution> I live in Hungary
[11:14] <QueenVee> Blaze -- how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the poleshift?
[11:14] <BlazeNY> About a year now
[11:14] <Sano> Inside-Revolution ups...i thought that u from US :)
[11:15] <BlazeNY> I belong to Mufon....which is neither here nor there really
[11:15] <QueenVee> Blaze: are you aware of our website? we are in the process of putting together a NETWORK WITH OTHERS section that will help people in the same areas to connect to one another....
[11:15] <obany> Interresting BlazeNY that you belong to MUFON
[11:15] <Inside-Revolution> Sano=Health in esperanto language
[11:15] <Sano> Inside-Revolution neithertheless u from NATO...am i right?
[11:16] <QueenVee> Blaze: this is our website address: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[11:16] <Inside-Revolution> I am not in the Army
[11:16] <Sano> Inside-Revolution> Sano=Health - really????
[11:16] <Inside-Revolution> yes
[11:16] <BlazeNY> I've been seeing fire balls pass by my window.....thought I had an encounter...don't know what's what lately. Thanks for the link Queen
[11:16] <Sano> wow....sign :)
[11:16] <QueenVee> Blaze: if you want me to send you info on how to get involved in that project, just give me your email address on a private channel, which will be kept strictly confidential
[11:17] <BlazeNY> Will do Queen....how? Where?
[11:17] <QueenVee> inside: Sano=health in latin
[11:17] <Inside-Revolution> is the 4th density=Nirvana of Budha?
[11:17] <QueenVee> blaze: how to send your email privately?
[11:17] <Inside-Revolution> or 4th dimension?
[11:18] <Inside-Revolution> what is the different dimension and density?
[11:18] <QueenVee> inside: no
[11:18] <BlazeNY> Nevermind...found your email. Thanks!
[11:18] <obany> Inside-Revolution: living in light... even that has been anwered
[11:18] <QueenVee> inside: use the search engine on the zetatalk site -- reach the DENSITY section
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[11:18] <QueenVee> read the DENSITY SECTION
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[11:18] <QueenVee> hi edude
[11:18] <Inside-Revolution> I read but not clear
[11:19] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m01.htm
[11:19] <edude> hello qv
[11:19] <QueenVee> brb -- getting a coffee
[11:20] <BlazeNY> Where are you folks from in here? NY here.......
[11:21] <cmell> Denmark here ....
[11:21] <Inside-Revolution> Ny city?
[11:21] <BlazeNY> Denmark/ Is your government more open to things like this?
[11:21] <cmell> Not so far as I know
[11:22] <BlazeNY> I mean, do they discuss it more publicly?
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[11:22] <BlazeNY> Upstate NY
[11:22] <cmell> there have been no mention of anything
[11:22] <humvee> Kauai Hawaii
[11:22] <BlazeNY> Hawaii? I don't think I want to be there now.....no offense
[11:23] <BlazeNY> denmark, how do you get your info? Here? ZetaTalk?
[11:23] <humvee> astually a safe place up hill that is
[11:23] <cmell> yes, and internet in general
[11:23] <QueenVee> hello Warrior
[11:23] <BlazeNY> how high are your hills? I think our ants here make bigger ones....(smile)
[11:24] <cmell> will the highest is some 600 feet
[11:24] <cmell> so I have to relocate
[11:24] <BlazeNY> Well, i suppose thats sufficient.
[11:24] <cmell> no
[11:25] <humvee> tru tru
[11:25] <Sano_away> BlazeNY about awaken i must submit, that in our massmedia became more, MORE!!! talks about ufo's and aliens
[11:25] <BlazeNY> burrow underground. I want to do that, even if this doesn't happen this year, I think it's going to eventually
[11:26] <humvee> a few of r group is setting up mainland US
[11:26] <BlazeNY> I hope not California
[11:26] <humvee> MN
[11:26] <cmell> montana ?
[11:26] <BlazeNY> or Arizonia for that matter...although that's a beautiful state. Sano.....where are you from? I can't find your posting.....
[11:27] <humvee> Minnesota in the hills there
[11:27] <cmell> ah
[11:27] <BlazeNY> Ah Montana........good choice!
[11:27] <cmell> :)
[11:27] <Sano_away> BlazeNY from russia
[11:27] <humvee> 4 farming good?
[11:28] <BlazeNY> Russia? Who would've thought that we'd be chatting.....now is YOUR govenment open to this concept Sano?
[11:29] <cmell> some of them are, there a huge underground complexes in the urals
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[11:29] <Inside-Revolution> Did Zetas speak about the dimension of Nirvana yet?
[11:29] <Inside-Revolution> or about the Heawon which Jesus said?
[11:29] <QueenVee> Blaze: they are not openly discussing it with their people, but they are as aware as the US govt is -- according to ZT
[11:29] <Sano> BlazeNY yes and no....i think :)
[11:30] <cmell> http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m01.htm
[11:30] <Sano> cmell underground complex??? what u mean???
[11:30] <cmell> like mount weather in the US
[11:30] <Sano> im living easter from urals mount
[11:31] <QueenVee> inside: i will not be accepting questions pertaining to religious ideas and concepts -- just those related to preparation for the poleshift and aftertime, or compelling in some other way....
[11:31] <QueenVee> Sano: i will get you a link about that, hold on
[11:31] <groomee> QV, I kept getting kicked offline, did you recieve my question?
[11:32] <QueenVee> Sano: from our website: Is the Russian Power Elite Preparing for a Natural Catastrophe? http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=34
[11:32] <Inside-Revolution> I look notsing more about Nirvana
[11:32] <QueenVee> Groomee: no, i didn't. give it to me again.
[11:32] <Inside-Revolution> only few words
[11:32] <Inside-Revolution> but nothing concrete
[11:32] <Inside-Revolution> how to go there
[11:32] <Inside-Revolution> Budha, Krishna, Jesus gave us the instructions
[11:33] <Inside-Revolution> Zetas can go to Nirvana?
[11:33] <QueenVee> inside: this is a chatroom for discussion about preparation, not about religious idea -- if you can't stay on topic, i will have to devoice you, oka?
[11:33] <groomee> I would like to know what will happen to the gravitational field when the earths rotation slows/stops
[11:33] <BlazeNY> Has Planet X definately been pinned pointed? Please do not link me to a site, your answers are more appreciated.
[11:34] <cmell> nothing
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[11:34] <QueenVee> groomee: that has been addressed, hold on i'll get you a link
[11:34] <groomee> thankyou
[11:35] <QueenVee> here's one: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s127.htm
[11:37] <QueenVee> obany: ARE YOU THERE?
[11:37] <Dr> Hi QV
[11:37] <Inside-Revolution> sorry
[11:37] <Inside-Revolution> which rom can I ask these questions?
[11:37] <Sano> QueenVee Yamantau Mountain - where is it located???
[11:38] <QueenVee> inside: try #earthchanges, #troubled_times, #zetatalk
[11:39] <cmell> somewhere in the urals sano
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[11:39] <BlazeNY> Queen, may I ask you why are you so involved in all this? Not that that's not a good thing, but are you associated with ZetaTalk?
[11:39] <QueenVee> no, not associated; just personal interest and sense of duty
[11:40] <BlazeNY> That's great
[11:40] <BlazeNY> I wish there was more I can do
[11:41] <QueenVee> ATTENTION:  We curently have only one question on today's agenda, so....
[11:41] <BlazeNY> I feel if I try to enlighten my neighbors, they'll lock me up. I am very sensative to all this, but I feel very alone in my plight and feelings
[11:42] <QueenVee> Blaze: don't be so melodramatic -- the very worst that can happen to you is that people will think you're crazy, nobody has the power to lock you up
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[11:42] <BlazeNY> i meant that jokingly Queen
[11:42] <QueenVee> the best way to be of help is to thoroughly read zetatalk, learn everything there is to learn, so that you can pass it on to others when the time comes...
[11:43] <QueenVee> blaze: sorry
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[11:43] <humvee> Blaze - a good topic 4 off hours when room not so busy re: how to tell others etc
[11:44] <QueenVee> hello gus
[11:45] <QueenVee> WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately one hour. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[11:45] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[11:45] <gus12340> Hello to you too
[11:45] <froggy> hi Monk
[11:45] <Mulder> Proposed Question: We know from Zetatalk that the Zeta's we talk to are STO. But are all ZT's STO? If there are STS Zeta's how do we know the difference in the aftertime and we are vulnerable? I mean how to recognize a friend or an enemy?
[11:46] <cmell> hi monk
[11:46] <QueenVee> Mulder: no, not all zetas are STO, there is a mix, just as there are with humans....
[11:46] <Monk> hi
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[11:48] <QueenVee> Mulder: there's a section in ZT called ORIENTATION TEST, i'm looking for it....
[11:48] <gus12340> QV Ilike to know how will effect the shiftt an Island in greece named Crete.
[11:49] <QueenVee> Mulder: here you go: http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x17.htm
[11:49] <QueenVee> gus: hold on
[11:49] <Mulder> Queen: I know what you're talking about. I have not only read Zetatalk, I have studied it.
[11:49] <gus12340> Ok
[11:51] <QueenVee> Gus: here's what ZT says about Greece and the Greek islands. can you please read it and tell me very specifically what you want to know that ZT has not already said? http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx018.htm
[11:51] <gus12340> QV:
[11:52] <QueenVee> Mulder: you asked how to recognize a friend of enemy. the section called ORIENTATION TEST answers that.
[11:52] <gus12340> Idid already I lookingfor more details if is posoble?
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[11:52] <Mulder> Proposed Question2: The hybrids are in many aspects similar to single parent children. I wonder if there is any thing a human can do to make them more comfortable with the human aspect of their new being? Such as handling emotions etc.?
[11:53] <Mulder> Queen: Thanks I will look at it again
[11:53] <QueenVee> Gus: i repeat:  tell me very specifically what you want to know that ZT has not already said
[11:53] <Sano> QueenVee /xtime/x17.htm- what is it a section? where i can find it in russian?
[11:53] <gus12340> About the spesificy Island Crete iif is posible
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[11:54] <QueenVee> Gus: what would you specifically like to know about the Island of Crete?
[11:54] <gus12340> Yes please
[11:54] <cmell> :)
[11:55] <QueenVee> Those who have just entered the room: WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 45 minutes I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion. (we currently have a shortage of questions, so ask away)
[11:55] <gus12340> Is will survive the shift
[11:55] <QueenVee> gus: you mean will it sink?
[11:55] <QueenVee> what do you mean by survive?
[11:55] <QueenVee> or will the people survive?
[11:55] <gus12340> The Island if goes under Water
[11:56] <gus12340> And the pl
[11:56] <gus12340> If is a safe place for my family?
[11:56] <Sano> gus12340 mifrate in our altai mountains here more safer :)
[11:56] <QueenVee> Gus: this seems pretty clear to me: "volcanoes... and the sloshing of the water, which will wash over small islands and any land protruding into the seas, makes survival of the shift itself in Greece seems tenuous."
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[11:57] <gus12340> Thank You all
[11:57] <QueenVee> We would advise those who want certainty of survival to move inland into the Alps, returning to their homelands only days after the shift.
[11:57] <gus12340> Ok
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[11:58] <QueenVee> TO THE ROOM: I would like to ask a question about the discovery mentioned in this article, what do you think: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=53
[11:58] <QueenVee> hello Neil
[11:58] <froggy> is Baltimore Md. going to be under water?
[11:59] <butch> it's coastal froggy...so i think it's likely...
[11:59] <NeilAway> hi, QueenVee
[11:59] <QueenVee> froggy: what does ZT already say about Maryland?
[11:59] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[11:59] <froggy> will a rubber raft work?
[11:59] <QueenVee> work to do what?
[11:59] <butch> wouldn't trust it...
[12:00] <butch> a solid boat would be better, methinks...
[12:00] <Sano> im madden that esteblishment use common ppl as resourse....like robots...
[12:00] <QueenVee> froggy: ZT says only in those places where water will slowly rise (i.e. NOT coastal areas) are boats an option
[12:00] <QueenVee> TIDAL WAVES
[12:01] <Sano> lets made riot and revolution !! :)
[12:01] <humvee> washer out 2 sea sucked into a woral pool & dashed
[12:01] <froggy> QueenVee: will Baltimore Md had a Tidal Wave?
[12:01] <QueenVee> froggy: yes
[12:02] <froggy> yikes
[12:02] <Mulder> Queen: Thanks for your help pointing to orientation test, but unfortunately your're missing my point.
[12:02] <Sano> i wonder....if zetas will use us so ?
[12:02] <QueenVee> Mulder: well, try again
[12:02] <cmell> only if they are sts Sano
[12:03] <froggy> Will Hanover Pa. have a Tidal Wave?
[12:03] <Sano> Mulder where i can tested??
[12:03] <Sano> cmell in that case i could say....that all esteblishment-STS !!!
[12:03] <QueenVee> froggy: i'm not going to answer anymore of your region questions until you following the procedure i have given:  IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[12:04] <cmell> yes Sano , sorry :(
[12:04] <Mulder> Sano: Not tested, but recognize the difference between real STO and STS humans
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[12:04] <Sano> Mulder and how i can recognize?
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[12:05] <obany> any questions .... that can be adressed?
[12:05] <cmell> Sano look here : http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x17.htm
[12:05] <QueenVee> Mulder, please give Sano the link i gave you
[12:05] <Sano> cmell x17.htm is in english.....i prefer russian symbols :)
[12:05] <Inside-Revolution> Queen, How can Hungary prepare fro accepting lot of inmigrated people from other countries after the shift?
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[12:05] <QueenVee> obany: Mulder wants to ask the zetas how to recognize friend from foe -- so i gave him the link to ORIENTATION TEST. but he says i am missing the point. Do you understand?
[12:06] <obany> let me see
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[12:06] <Sano> Inside-Revolution u lucky Hungrians....u havent so neighbours like China :)))
[12:06] <QueenVee> inside: there is already a lot of general material on ZT about that
[12:06] <QueenVee>     HELLO NANCY     
[12:06] <Monk> Hi Nancy
[12:06] <obany> NancyL : are you the real Nancy Lieder?
[12:06] * QueenVee sets mode: +o NancyL
[12:06] <NancyL> ya
[12:06] <cmell> hi NancyL
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[12:07] <groomee> Hi Nancy
[12:07] <QueenVee> false alarm, folks
[12:07] <obany> QueenVee: look at the host first
[12:07] <QueenVee> that was not nancy
[12:07] <Sano> hi
[12:07] <Monk> you dont have ip address?
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[12:07] <froggy> Hi Nancy :)\
[12:07] <QueenVee> obany: i can only do so many things at a time
[12:07] <Mulder> Queen: It is not about recognizing Human STO or STS. It is about recognizing Alien (ZT) STS or STO
[12:07] <Red> hehe    hi all
[12:07] <cmell> Sano it's not translated into russian
[12:07] <butch> hiya Red
[12:07] <Red> HBO  Hi !
[12:07] <QueenVee> Mulder: what would be the difference? are you expecting them to be wearing a badge?
[12:07] <Sano> cmell ok ill read in english :)
[12:07] <Red> hey butch
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[12:08] <Monk> Mulder: maybe you should train on seeing auras
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[12:08] <Sano> QueenVee> who that was?
[12:08] <QueenVee> Those who have just entered the room: WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 45 minutes I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion. (we currently have a shortage of questions, so ask away)
[12:08] <humvee> QV: seemingly sts scorces on web use many mind games etc so u have 2 look & learn is what i think he is getting at - maybe not an easy answer look at accuracy to tell
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[12:09] <Kai> hmm
[12:09] <QueenVee> hello Kai
[12:09] <Elisa> ìäÿ
[12:09] <Kai> hello
[12:09] <QueenVee> hello Elisa
[12:10] <QueenVee> Those who have just entered the room: WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 45 minutes I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion. (we currently have a shortage of questions, so ask away)
[12:10] <Sano> Elisa íå ãîâîðè ïî ðóññêè, îíè ýòî íå ëþáÿò :)))
[12:10] <Elisa> :)
[12:10] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[12:10] <Elisa> à íìå íàñðàòü:)
[12:10] <Elisa> QueenVee: hi
[12:10] <Sano> Elisa say in english i saud !!! :)))
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[12:10] <QueenVee> well, we only have two questions for the agenda thus far....
[12:11] <Monk> yes english only please
[12:11] <Elisa> i'l try
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[12:11] <QueenVee> hey cap
[12:11] <Captain_nibiru> hi!!
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[12:11] <cmell> hi
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[12:11] <PlanX> I have a question.  The Zetans have said that meteorites would strike the earth at a low trajectory.  Can they tell us what direction they will be coming from?
[12:11] <Captain_nibiru> had to reboot, couldnt get in here!!
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[12:12] <johnny> hello
[12:12] <Sano> QueenVee can u post here those 2 questions ?
[12:12] <obany> QueenVee: tied banned a aol adress, that's why he couldn't join in ... that's why i removed the aol ban at first
[12:12] <QueenVee> WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 45 minutes I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion. (we currently have a shortage of questions, so ask away)
[12:12] <Sano> PlanX from everywhere i think :)
[12:12] <QueenVee> sorry, that is not correct: nancy's session will begin in approximatley 1/2 hr....
[12:13] <Captain_nibiru> ohh, isee , obany, yes, i have aol!!
[12:13] <obany> QueenVee: 17 minuts :)
[12:13] <Captain_nibiru> 1/2 hour, great , thanks!!
[12:13] <QueenVee> PlanX: same direction as PX, yes?
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[12:13] <inkpen> hello
[12:13] <cmell> hi
[12:14] <inkpen> need coffee
[12:14] <Monk> queenvee: any questions about this new clone they are talking about ?
[12:14] <QueenVee> what would you like to know, monk
[12:14] <Kai> new clone?
[12:14] <QueenVee> alleged clone
[12:14] <Sano> öùå òóö ñäùòó,
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[12:14] <obany> Kai: Raelian cult
[12:14] <Sano> sorry
[12:14] <Kai> oh right
[12:14] <PlanX> Yes, I guess from same direction as PX makes sense ... So when we see the red cross in the sky ... watch out!
[12:14] <Sano> wot new clone?
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[12:14] <Monk> Just something to ask maybe if your low on questions
[12:14] <humvee> a fair question on incomming direction from east at first then south (new East) I don't know but could be clairified if re written as a question
[12:15] <QueenVee> monk: i'm sure she already has something prepared on it....
[12:15] <Monk> yea maybe
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[12:15] <obany> i am sure that Queen has enough questions to adress
[12:15] <Kai> so when excacty is nibiru ment to get here?
[12:15] <inkpen> *sigh
[12:15] <obany> Kai: may 2003, it's al on www.zetatalk.com
[12:15] <QueenVee> Kai: poleshift will happen May 15, 2003
[12:16] <Monk> poleshift will happen around may 15
[12:16] <QueenVee> Mulder: i'd like to approach your question from another direction....
[12:16] <Kai> okay, gives me pently of time then
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[12:16] <groomee> Am i considered STS if i am only worried about getting myself and small family thru the shift
[12:16] <johnny> Queenvee, question for the zetas: Starting December 18th, NASA launched ICESAT a laser equiped satelite designed to keep the planets largest ice sheets under twenty- four hour survellance. What is the significance of this, if any.
[12:16] <QueenVee> Mulder: why don't we start by asking if there will be STS aliens roaming about the earth in the aftertime, whether we need to be wary of them, and how to recognize them?
[12:17] <QueenVee> johnny: that seems pretty obvious -- to kep the ice sheets under surveillance, because they know they're melting....
[12:17] <Mulder> Queen: Thank you, sound like a good plan to me
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[12:18] <cmell> wasen't sts aliens supposed to be banned from earth after the shift ?
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[12:18] <obany> cmell: not exactly ....
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[12:18] <cmell> oh I thought so :(
[12:19] <inkpen> after the transformation
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[12:19] <obany> cmell: STS humans yes, etc ... but after the shift to 4th density no more
[12:19] <Kai> sts alien?
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[12:19] <Michaellss> did you get time to check that website out to see if nancy could ask zetas to comment?
[12:19] <obany> sts=Service to Self
[12:19] <Sano> obany but who stronger STO or STS?
[12:19] <Kai> ah
[12:19] <ZooSpecimen> woohoo
[12:19] <phoenix> QV: Also, might there be STS hybrids to be dealth with in aftertime?
[12:19] <obany> Sano: what do you think sano ?
[12:19] <obany> no STS Hybrids
[12:20] <Kai> Forward
[12:20] <Monk> any soul going into a hybrid will be sto
[12:20] <Kai> odd
[12:20] <Kai> i didnt even type that sigh sorry
[12:20] <QueenVee> Michaells: what website?
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[12:20] <Sano> obany i think that at humans - stronger STS, aliens - STO
[12:21] <Michaellss> http://www.ou-research.com/ewpatents/nsaPR.html
[12:21] <humvee> Question: considering the loss of gps volcanic gloom and magnetic wandering what method could be used & how would one be best able to navigate on water / land after thecomming  pole shift?
[12:21] <Michaellss> altering brain waves of ppl
[12:21] <QueenVee> Michael: that question is not relevant to preparation for the poleshift and aftertime
[12:21] <Michaellss> and monitoring
[12:21] <QueenVee> Zoo: please post your question in the main room
[12:21] <Michaellss> k
[12:21] <Michaellss> :)
[12:21] <Mulder> humvee: I second that question
[12:22] <QueenVee> humvee: that veers into the zetas giving technological advice, which they will not
[12:22] <johnny> Queenvee- Question - The zetas say the war with iraq is about the oil, if so what the point if the bush administration knows about the shift. All the oil will burn so whats the point.
[12:22] <cmell> I tried that q once, and the answer was by other means
[12:23] <QueenVee> johnny: that has been extensively addressed in ZT -- read under "What's New" section, or do search under keyword IRAQ
[12:23] <johnny> thanks
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[12:25] <obany> QueenVee: 5 ... and Nancy ain't here yet :/
[12:25] <Red> Hey Steve   how goes it?
[12:25] <QueenVee> obany: don't sweat it
[12:25] <SteveH> good, how are you?
[12:25] <Warrior2021> US administration using war to get people atention  from the PS@
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[12:26] <obany> hi SteveH wb
[12:26] <SteveH> hi obany
[12:26] <Red> great thanks... just about headed to your fair city    tell me the weather is good ;)
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[12:26] <cmell> hi ZP
[12:26] <QueenVee> I APOLOGIZE FOR POSTING THE WRONG TIME AGAIN. NANCY'S SESSION SHOULD START IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES, NOT 20
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[12:26] <cmell> hi
[12:26] <Sano> ðø
[12:26] <Sano> hi
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[12:26] <QueenVee>     HELLO NANCY     
[12:26] <Domicile> hi
[12:27] <humvee> Steve how short an exposure will still show px image at present
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[12:27] <NancyL> ANNOUNCEMENT: Steve Havas took another set of images last evening, thanks to $$ from Naji, and JWilliam has already identified the White and Red Personas.
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[12:28] <NancyL> Again: moved, brighter, larger, moons more visible, where expected, tracking as expected, MISSING from where they were on Dec 13-14th, etc.
[12:28] <NancyL> Looks like we're going to have a pole shift.
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[12:28] <obany> Yes NancyL
[12:28] <Monk> Is the pictures uploaded to a server ?
[12:28] <NancyL> A report from someone re the movie Core:
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[12:28] <phoenix> Q: Are the "webs" falling over areas of SW USA an increase in natural phenomena, expected to increase after PS?
[12:29] <obany> more and more signs that there indeed will be a poleshift
[12:29] <NancyL> They said “I went and saw Star Trek 'Nemesis' the other night, well the name Nemesis and the plot to destroy the Earth tells something....but....the last trailer (preview) to show before the start of the main feature, Nemesis, was the trailer for the movie THE CORE. That trailer had an interesting ending, the screen goes black and states in white print 'THE PLANET EARTH HAS A DEADLINE OF SPRING 2003' “
[12:29] <SteveH> humvee, I used 20min exposures for these images but PX has also shown up on 2min exposures
[12:29] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin shortly. Moderation mode will be on while she is doing ZetaTalk, during which no one else can post. However, there will be time for follow-up comments and questions afterwards.
[12:29] <SteveH> the longer exposures give much better results, stronger signal than the shorter exposures
[12:29] <QueenVee> NancyL: HOW BIZARRE!
[12:30] <butch> i saw that...kinda creepy..
[12:30] <obany> Indeed, indeed ...
[12:30] <inkpen> heh
[12:30] <humvee> thanks
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[12:30] <SteveH> I just saw that trailer yesterday, watching the new LOTR
[12:30] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[12:30] <NancyL> phoenix, webs is related to the recent 60 acreas of spider webs in western Canada.  These are spider web blown UP, recent hatchlings per a biologist report I read, and related to insects et al going nuts over weird signals from the Earth core, etc.
[12:31] <ZooSpecimen> well done Zetapal!
[12:31] <phoenix> Thanks, Nancy ;)
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[12:31] <NancyL> I have one accepted Q for the #zetatalk channel, but Queen supplies the Q for this session.
[12:32] <QueenVee> NANCY: let me know when you want to begin
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[12:32] <NancyL> Ready, Queen :-)
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[12:32] <obany> as there is a difference between the session on this and on the zetatalk channel, different type of questions .. but nevertheless let the session begin :)
[12:33] <QueenVee> ARE YOU READY NANCY??
[12:33] <ZooSpecimen> southern ontario will move further north, but the climate will be warmer after the PS?
[12:33] <NancyL> YES! Ready!!
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[12:33] <QueenVee>  FIRST QUESTION
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[12:33] <QueenVee>  Will there be aliens other than Zetas visitng the earth in the aftertime that may offer help to humans? If so, will any of them be STS? And if so, how can we recognize and be wary of such STS aliens?
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[12:35] <NancyL> ZT: The 100 years after the pole shift are a time of transition for planet Earth, in that it is not wholely divided into STO or STS groups separated by the rules that govern 4th Density spiritual groups.
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[12:36] <NancyL> ZT: Yet there will be pockets, whole countries or continents even, which are operating in this spiritual orientation, and quarantined from interaction with others in 4th Density of the other orientation.
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[12:37] <NancyL> ZT: As we have stated in the Rules section of Zetatalk, visitors to Earth operating in the STO orientation, or the STS orientation, are required to enter into an Engagement in order to interact with each other.
[12:37] <NancyL> ZT: These Engagements are overseen by the Council of Worlds, and proceed within rules such that chaos does not reign.
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[12:38] <NancyL> ZT: Unless an Engagement exists, the orientations do NOT interact.
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[12:38] <NancyL> ZT: However, in 3rd Density, in the main composed of undecided entities not fully leaning toward either orientation, all interact without Engagements.
[12:39] <NancyL> ZT: The Call, which is a type of Engagement between an undecided entity in 3rd Density and a visitor, is also controlled by rules, such that the visitor cannot simply have their way with the immature entity.
[12:40] <NancyL> ZT: STS visitors are thus not allowed to invade, occupy, eat, or otherwise have their way with humans who give the Call to them.
[12:40] <NancyL> ZT: The Call is a conference, solely.
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[12:41] <NancyL> ZT: In the situation we have described, where STO communities of humans form after the shift, and are joined by Hybrids or visitors from many worlds, what rules will apply?
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[12:41] <NancyL> ZT: This is in fact no more complicated than situations on Earth today, where many Star Children are incarnated with developed spirits form 4th Density or higher, yet are living among humans in human society.
[12:42] <NancyL> ZT: If a Star Child gives the Call, which happens even in higher densities, this is covered by the Rules of Engagement among visitors, as a visitor is what they ARE.
[12:44] <NancyL> ZT: If a human in a group gives the Call to STS visitors, yet others in the group are giving the Call simultaneously to visitores in the STO, then great care is taken to ensure that the STS and STO visitors responding to the Call of these individual human are not using the humans for a type of Engagement between themselves.
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[12:44] <NancyL> ZT: Suffice to say that if visitors are NOT careful about these matters, they are promptly removed from the vicinity, expelled, so care IS taken and humans are NOT used as a type of hand-length Engagement.
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[12:45] <NancyL> ZT: In the STO communities of the future, after the shift, where Hybrids and visitors from other worlds and huamns of good heart are all living together, in the main this will be uncomplicated.
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[12:45] <NancyL> ZT: A human in this setting gives the Call to the STO, and a neighbor steps up for a chat!
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[12:46] <NancyL> ZT: If an immature entity is among them, perhaps a child depending upon parents, and gives the Call to the STS, then this situation would be treated as mentioned above, with care not to cross boundaries.
[12:46] <NancyL> ZT: The child would be taken outside of the community, in some manner, for the conference.
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[12:47] <NancyL> ZT: If this child persisted in his STS leanings, he would be encouraged to leave the community when adulthood was approaching.
[12:47] <NancyL> ZT: Such situations are NOT expected to arise, due to the polarization ongoing today.
[12:48] <NancyL> ZT: It is likewise possible for an STO human to find themselves in mixed company after the shift.
[12:48] <NancyL> ZT: This is certainly no different than the daily grind of STO individuals today, in mixed society.
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[12:49] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, increasingly, this sorts out so that human survivors are talking to their NEIGHBORS, not visitors, which is the rule in 4th Density spiritual societies.
[12:49] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter followup?
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[12:49] <Mike-O> What is the nature of an 'engagement' between an STS and STO entity in 4th density or higher? Is it basically one entity trying to win the other over to its side?
[12:49] <froggy> Where will the pockets, countries and continents be that are oprerating in sto manner?
[12:49] <Gyflex> will these sts aliens continue to actively recruit for the sts camp after the shift?
[12:49] <West_coast> what role will religion play in the aftertime
[12:50] <Zetapal> wow - love it
[12:50] <Warrior2021> Hi Nancy       there something wrong with that 100 years , some groups will go sn to 4th density right after the PS  as our solar sistem flying in to higher energy level @           
[12:50] <obany> Mike-O: has been explained already
[12:50] <obany> Mike-O: rules section of zetatalk
[12:50] <NancyL> MikeO, the Engagements are very thoroughly described in the Rules section.
[12:50] <Domicile> Will conferences brought on by The Call move towards being more conscious, as opposed to subconscious sessions as we become more aware of ET's?
[12:50] <Mulder> NancyL / Queen: Thank you both, a great answer
[12:50] <QueenVee> :-)
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[12:50] <NancyL> Froggy, yes, this is the direction that will occur after the shift, but I think die-off must occur first, and some migrations.
[12:50] <inkpen> good question too
[12:51] <Zetapal> good question Domicile
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[12:51] <NancyL> WestCoast, religion plays no role except as humans cling to it.
[12:51] <cmell> yes domicile good q
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[12:52] <NancyL> Warrior, you are quoting some garbage, not ZetaTalk.  Does this garbage quoted have an accuracy track record, like ZetaTalk?
[12:52] <NancyL> Domicile, like a chat with a neighbor, yes, conscious then.
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[12:52] <NancyL> If you are living in an STO group, with Hybrids and Zetas, for instance, they come over for a chat.
[12:53] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION
[12:53] <QueenVee>  Many who come to the SHIFT2003 Chat Room are noting a dramatic increase in the polarization of orientations recently. Can the Zetas comment on this and indicate in what ways this may increasingly manifest itself in the days leading up to the poleshift?
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[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: Polarization in the main goes on undetected, with humans migrating to areas they sense will be more compatible with their thinking.
[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: Humans join groups, decide what shops to shop in, take walks in this or that park, all based on orientation, increasingly.
[12:55] <NancyL> ZT: If a group plays ball, hard, with ridicule of those losing, and another plays ball for exercise, and ensures that all attending get a fair physical workout, these are attended by humans with different leanings.
[12:55] <NancyL> ZT: Political groups, religious affiliations, all are affected by orientation leanings.
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[12:56] <NancyL> ZT: If a political party is elitist, cruel to those in need and giving increasing power to the strong and ruthless, this is NOT an STO oriented group.
[12:57] <NancyL> ZT: If a church is so rule oriented that the elders cannot be challenged even when they rape children, and refuse to be called to account, this is NOT an STO oriented leadership.
[12:57] <NancyL> ZT: Decisions as to what groups to belong to, what locales to live in, what employer to work for, are made daily based on the sense the human has that their chosen orientation fits in.
[12:58] <NancyL> ZT: At a certain point, during a polarization period, these trends are NOTICED, as they become extreme.
[12:59] <NancyL> ZT: This is the point reached today, thus noticed.  In the past, where the vast majority were undecided, only the occasional fully developed STS or STO would be about to influence matters.
[12:59] <NancyL> ZT: Jesus, or Genghis Khan, so their influence was obvious.
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[13:00] <NancyL> ZT: During the Tranformation, where an influx of STO Star Children, including Walk-ins that increase their numbers dramatically without the birth or maturation of children being required for influence, those in the STS are threatened.
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[13:01] <NancyL> ZT: The PERCENTAGE of STO on the Earth is tipping, and the STS among humans feel uncomfortable.
[13:01] <NancyL> ZT: They group more tightly, to be with their like kind.
[13:02] <NancyL> ZT: They seek more control, get more shrill, dictate more rules, and restrict access to themselves.
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[13:02] <NancyL> ZT: This is all to increase their comfort level, to return to the comfort level they remember in prior times.
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[13:02] <NancyL> ZT: This desire for control, to return to the good-ol-days, is what in fact DRIVES the polarization, as the STS WILLINGLY separate!
[13:03] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?
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[13:03] <froggy> i feel great about that answer, because everybody at my work and the clients are nice
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[13:03] <West_coast> Are all STS aliens following the RULES? (non-interference)
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[13:04] <NancyL> WestCoast, they MUST follow the rules or be removed, instantly.  There is no fooling the Council of Worlds, which knows all, apparently.
[13:04] <ZooSpecimen> ... and these decisions are 100% unconcious?
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[13:05] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION
[13:05] <NancyL> Zoo, your subconscious knows what you're up to, your conscious picks and choses, apparently.
[13:05] <QueenVee>  PREAMBLE: ZT has previously said that underground shelters will likely collapse during the poleshift, including those built by the government. Yet many coming to the SHIFT2003 Chat Room continue to doubt that advice and make plans for underground shelters.
[13:05] <QueenVee>  QUESTION: Though the subject of underground shelters has been addressed previously, can it be addressed again more specifically, since the message is not getting through?
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[13:06] <NancyL> ZT: Mankind visits caves, which show their age in the slow accumulation of drip-fed rock, and think underground caverns safe.
[13:06] <NancyL> ZT: At the same time, man-made mines collapse or fill with water, with horror stories of miners burried alive.
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[13:07] <NancyL> ZT: There are caves in rock that last eons, and mines that man mades that likewise hold up, but compared to the risks of aboveground shelters during the shift, they are HIGH RISK.
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[13:08] <NancyL> ZT: Mankind has little experience with Richter 9 force quakes, with only projection on what the Richter on famous quakes such as the 1906 San Francisco quake were.
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[13:08] <NancyL> ZT: Dramatic rock shattering, such as was required to drive raw rock at a slant, skyward, during prior shifts, is NOT in the memory of man.
[13:09] <NancyL> ZT: Caverns available THEN, for man to crawl into, which closed and trapped whatever crawled there, are LOST to man.
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[13:09] <NancyL> ZT: On occasion, he digs bones frozen in what was formerly mud, a volcanic flow or river bed.
[13:10] <NancyL> ZT: How the animals died is conjecture.
[13:10] <NancyL> ZT: If human bones are found in caverns, it is assumed they died of disease, not entrapment.
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[13:12] <NancyL> ZT: If the force of a shift, in the recent past, has driven mountains over the plains in the US West, rumpled the foothills of the Sierras, heaved the Himalyas higher, and melted rock with subduction, then why line of thinking allows this rock to remain FIRM and UNDISTURBED just because it is the wall of a cavern?
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[13:12] <NancyL> ZT: It is not immune from what is happening during mountain building, during the shift: shattering rock, rapid sideways motions, flaking and separating, and snapping.
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[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: In heartlands, where mountain building may not be occurring, there are rocks and caves which are assumed not to be affected.
[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: But stretching, growing rifts, can likewise create collapse.
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[13:14] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, to AVOID being burried alive, crushed, do NOT be underground during the shift.
[13:14] <NancyL> ZT: Allow yourself access to the open air.
[13:14] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?>
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[13:14] <cmell> is Yosemite National park in California an example of dramatic rock shattering, and skyward lift ? (thinking of the dome)
[13:14] <phoenix> Q: Would trenches dug into firm hillsides be squeezed during earthquakes?
[13:14] <West_coast> Is the red dust toxic?
[13:14] <slycli> Then the best solution is?
[13:15] <NancyL> Phoenix, if the hillside was not going to be flooded, so that mudslides ensured, probably not.
[13:15] <Gyflex> will theRussians take note and abandon their current bunker plans?
[13:15] <NancyL> YOU must think about this!  Landslides, mudslides, holding soil back with roots of trees, etc. is a KNOWN human science!  KNOWN facts!
[13:15] <phoenix> Thanks
[13:15] <NancyL> Do a bit of research on your own, use your own head!
[13:16] <froggy> how did the pyramids survive from last shift?
[13:16] <NancyL> If you dig a trench now, along a hill, and the spring rains come, won't it get muddy, and the bottom wall start to slide?
[13:16] <obany> froggy: keep in mind that not every pole shift is a severe one.... read zetatalk, choose science, wandering poles
[13:16] <NancyL> Research what California deals with in mud slides.  Its all in the books!  LIbrary, etc.
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[13:17] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION
[13:17] <QueenVee>  Some who visit the SHIFT2003 Chat Room accept that the poleshift will occur, but are reluctant to accept that it will be as destructive as it will be, and therefore question whether ZT advice re prepration is accurate. Can the Zetas briefly describe how they know so specifically the extent of destruction of the poleshift and conditions of the aftertime? Is it purely via scientific method, or also through an ability to see into the
[13:17] <NancyL> Slycli, a trench in a flat place, NOT all that wide, NOT about to be flooded either, and covered with a roof of sod covered board, or tin.
[13:18] <NancyL> This has been addressed in ZT already, but they will repeat themselves.  I think it is 2003 in the Pole Shift section.
[13:18] <Zetapal> Queen end got cut off - "ability to see into the...."
[13:18] <QueenVee> just a sec
[13:18] <QueenVee>  Some who visit the SHIFT2003 Chat Room accept that the poleshift will occur, but are reluctant to accept that it will be as destructive as it will be, and therefore question whether ZT advice re prepration is accurate.
[13:18] <QueenVee> Can the Zetas briefly describe how they know so specifically the extent of destruction of the poleshift and conditions of the aftertime? Is it purely via scientific method, or also through an ability to see into the future?
[13:19] <NancyL> Yes, P108, 2003 in the Pole Shift section, here quoted "How do you know that the sun is going to rise at approximately 6:37 AM on a given morning? You know this because you take observations, and you take
[13:19] <NancyL> measures. How do you know how many miles you must walk on a familiar trip? You can count the steps, or measure the distance, and you can verify this against
[13:19] <NancyL> maps drawn by other. You observe, and take measures. We know that the 12th Planet will make its passage in late spring or early summer of the year 2
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[13:19] <NancyL> We know that the 12th Planet will make its passage in late spring or early summer of the year 2003
[13:19] <NancyL> because we are observing the planet approaching your solar system. We were present when it came through last. This is as known to us as the setting of the sun and
[13:19] <NancyL> the rising of the sun is to you.
[13:19] <NancyL> We see this, laid out before us, and we watch each day as the comet approaches and calculate any variance from our last plot.
[13:19] <NancyL> Therefore this is not something uncertain that we have to morph up out of calculations and call “the best estimate” or “our speculation.” This is not speculation, this is
[13:19] <NancyL> observation, and we are telling you what we are observing.
[13:19] <NancyL> End QUOTE of ZT
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[13:20] <QueenVee> But, nancy; is there any kind of precognition involved at all?>
[13:20] <NancyL> In the same manner that YOU know the Sun will rise, or can predict the effect of a hurricane heading inland, etc.
[13:20] <phoenix> Doesn't the element of chance always exist?
[13:21] <NancyL> Re Precognition:
[13:21] <NancyL> ZT: No
[13:21] <NancyL> End ZT on that matter :-)
[13:21] <QueenVee> well, that's clear
[13:21] <AlphaCentauri> lol
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[13:21] <obany> Very clear
[13:21] <QueenVee>  LAST QUESTION
[13:21] <QueenVee>  As it approaches, will Planet X have EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) effect on earth's electronics, similar to those effects associated with a nuclear blast or a CME (coronal mass ejection) from the sun aimed at earth? Or is it at least likely that Planet X might stimulate such CMEs from the sun during its passage?
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[13:22] <NancyL> Phoenix, if they were to describe the EXACT longitude or lattitude of a spot on earth, maybe they would wiggle, but to say it will be stretched out along the new Equator, they are not speculating, they care calculating.
[13:22] <NancyL> Good Q ...
[13:23] <QueenVee> FOLLOWUP QUESTION, NANCY
[13:23] <QueenVee> what about when the zetas are commenting on political situations on earth?
[13:23] <NancyL> ZT: Mankind's electrical equipment is sensitive to surges, brown-outs, and the many magnets used in their technology are affected by strong pulse.
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[13:24] <NancyL> ZT: Will the pole shift, described as magnetic in nature, utterly destroy mankinds technology, carefully packed?
[13:25] <NancyL> ZT: What should be remembered is that the pole shift does NOT change the force of the field in the Earth, does NOT change whatsoever the Sun which is oblivious to the passage.
[13:26] <NancyL> ZT: Solar Flares are exagerated nowadays, as the Sun has been setup to be used as an EXCUSE for the effects the Earth is currently experiencing from the approach of Planet X.
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[13:27] <NancyL> ZT: We stated as early as 1995, when ZetaTalk began, that this was the case, the Sun setup for this role, and right on cue NASA et all issues statements that the solar cycle which was to END in 2000 was going to be a 14 year cycle, ending in 2003.
[13:27] <NancyL> ZT: How did they know this?  No one ever challenges NASA, so this was never determined, but let us say that they made it up.
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[13:28] <NancyL> ZT: Go back into history, during all the solar cycles, and see what horrific effects were experienced.
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[13:28] <NancyL> ZT: Did mankind lose his compasses?  Hardly.  
[13:28] <NancyL> There will be spotty Electro Magnetic Pulse, due to the core swirling, but this will be SPOTTY, not universal.
[13:29] <NancyL> ZT: During discussions within Troubled Times on these matters, it was brought forth that there are shields, of copper wire or whatnot, that can protect against EMP.
[13:30] <NancyL> ZT: We would as general advice guard technology against shattering, being thrown or dropped.
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[13:30] <NancyL> ZT: EMP is so unlikely, that if it does occur is likely NOT to have affected the technolgy over the hill, down the road, etc.
[13:30] <NancyL> ZT: After the shift, mankind will be picking up the pieces, working with what they have, and bartering with neighbors.
[13:31] <NancyL> ZT: This is just another bartering issue to consider.
[13:31] <NancyL> End zT on this matter, followup?
[13:31] <QueenVee>  NANCY: FOLLOW-UP TO PREVIOUS QUESTION: What about when the Zetas are commenting on political situations on earth. Are they to some extent using their untuitive abilities to make predictions, or merely astute analytical observation and analysis? People are very confused on this issue.
[13:31] <inkpen> whow
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[13:31] <Mike-O> Is the EarthChangesTV web site, which blames Coronal Mass Ejections for everything from lost puppies to burnt toast, a puppet of NASA?
[13:31] <inkpen> the followups flowin in
[13:31] <phoenix> Does EMP affect electronics not in use at the time?
[13:31] <NancyL> The Zetas are very very telepathic.  If someone THINKS a thing, they know it.
[13:31] <NancyL> Where YOU may not be aware of the real reasons for this or that, they are NOT confused.
[13:32] <cmell> and that shield is called Farradays cage I believe
[13:32] <humvee> can we assume that navigation over shorter distance and time periods by compass will be similarly used
[13:32] <NancyL> Can you give me an example that I can address, Queen?
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[13:32] <NancyL> What comment on political situation is supposed to be intuitive, for instance.
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[13:32] <QueenVee> like the likelyhood of bush's handlers assassinating him if he gets out of line
[13:32] <NancyL> MikeO, yes re Earth Changes, the guy gets info from NASA and thinks himself important for that reason.
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[13:33] <ZooSpecimen> the ellection?
[13:33] <NancyL> Phoenix, I'm not an expert on EMP, but think having equipment turned off is better than on, yes.
[13:33] <QueenVee> like predictions of election outcomes
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[13:33] <Okidok> Is Saddam Hussein aware of the coming poleshift??? If he is, why dosen`t he then use this information to spread fear?
[13:34] <cmell> EMP can fry equipment thats turned off
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[13:34] <cmell> but sure it is better turned off
[13:34] <QueenVee> okidok: only US, Russian, and British govts are aware
[13:34] <NancyL> Queen, they are, telepathy wise, IN TRE ROOM when this gets discussed, IN THEIR HEADS when they think this, and KNOW how many think this, whether they have talked to each other, and can calculate the likelihood of success!
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[13:34] <QueenVee> NancyL: thanks, very clear answer!
[13:35] <NancyL> Okidok, I don't think Sadamn is in the inner circle on pole shift info, no.
[13:35] <phoenix> thx
[13:35] <Mike-O> France, Germany, and Japan are aware too . . .
[13:35] <AlphaCentauri> Okidok: And I think Saddam Hussein is highly STS but doesnt' want to be considered as a tyrant but as a God so doesn't want to spread fear.
[13:35] <QueenVee>  Okay, that’s the hour, folks. ANOTHER GREAT SESSION, NANCY! THANK YOU!
[13:35] <NancyL> Thanks as always to Queen.
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[13:36] <NancyL> I have a Queen Q, how is your new Network with Others going, re groups?
[13:36] <QueenVee> Nancy: lots of response
[13:36] <QueenVee> but i haven't got them up yet
[13:36] <QueenVee> working on it
[13:36] <QueenVee> ;-)
[13:36] <QueenVee> thanks for asking....
[13:36] <phoenix> QV, the busy bee!  ;)
[13:36] <NancyL> That's great!  This is something I'm always asked about, and always refuse to get involved in.  I say "I don't coordinate groups or introduce folks to each other"
[13:37] <QueenVee> glad to take another load off ya, Nancy
[13:37] <NancyL> Very happy Queen is doing this!
[13:37] <NancyL> Going to bid bye bye now, onto next session.  Bye
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[13:37] <obany> Let's hope the next session will be just a good ... as in about a couple of days it will be 2003
[13:37] <QueenVee> others were involved in the planning stages
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[13:37] <SteveH> good work Queen!
[13:37] <Michaellss> cya
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[13:37] <galaxyexplorer> Bye
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[13:37] <Kain> Thanks Queen!
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[13:37] <Domicile> Thanks Nancy and QueenVee. Thanks Steve for more pics!
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[13:38] <obany> next session will be in #zetatalk in about 23 minuts ... don't forget ... use /join #zetatalk to get there
[13:38] <QueenVee> The SHIFT2003 website ( http://shift2003.kgmweb.com ) is in the process of setting up a NETWORK WITH OTHERS section to help people connect with other poleshifters in their area -- if you would like to receive further info about that, give QueenVee your email address on a private channel.
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[13:38] <Slo39> wow lots to think about
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[13:38] <phoenix> Good session.  These should be interesting times coming up!
[13:39] <Michaellss> QV gonna ask that question on other room when i get back ill read answer...
[13:39] <QueenVee> she's certainly given me lots of ammo to use in addressing those endless questions
[13:39] <QueenVee> Michaellss: ok
[13:39] <Michaellss> thnx
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[13:39] <Mad_Hatter> Thanks!
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[13:39] <obany> next session will be in #zetatalk in about 23 minuts ... don't forget ... use /join #zetatalk to get there
[13:39] <obany> next session will be in #zetatalk in about 23 minuts ... don't forget ... use /join #zetatalk to get there
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[13:39] <QueenVee> it's interesting, the less we "prepare" for these sessions in advance, the better they are; last-minute questions seem to work best
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[13:40] <Zetapal> cmel - see pvt
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[13:42] <QueenVee> thanks zetapal. i'm beat
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[13:42] <cmell> ZP there is no pvt :(
[13:42] <QueenVee> Zetapal: i feel like i happened on a goldmine in figuring out to ask Zetas to re-address certain issues that haven't sunk in...
[13:43] <QueenVee> groomee: you have to type this:  /join #zetatalk
[13:43] <groomee> QVthankyou
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[13:47] <cmell> later guys
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[14:04] <Zetapal> just had a pvt with Butch who has lived in West Virginia for the past 2 yrs or so, in talking about that area, breifly, he said this:
[14:04] <Zetapal> <butch> but at least i know my way around here now...one thing that scares me though is the natural gas wells around here...they're everywhere...a few good earthquakes and i could see this place going up like a match..
[14:04] <Zetapal> <butch> in fact there was a few pipe ruptures a during the summer...the local news said it was due to shifting ground...
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[14:05] <Zetapal> hey tony
[14:05] <Zetapal> zetatalk session begining now in #zetatalk channel
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[14:07] <TipSiZ_Yakisikli> hi
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[14:09] <inkpen> so it begins...again :)
[14:12] <Mr_You> not sure of the importance of continuing rumors by ETs.
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[14:14] <rx> join#zetatalk
[14:15] <Mr_You> oh man
[14:15] <Mr_You> how wacked is that statement.
[14:16] <inkpen> what u mean?
[14:17] <Mr_You> claiming OKC bombing was a political attack.
[14:17] <inkpen> according to ZT
[14:17] <Mr_You> yeah thats wacked.
[14:17] <Mr_You> makes you wonder their agenda.
[14:18] <inkpen> the zetas?
[14:18] <Mr_You> yup
[14:18] <Mr_You> complete nonsense.
[14:18] <inkpen> well this is not the place for debating ZT validity
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[14:18] <inkpen> heh
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[14:18] <QueenVee> geez, they're like children....
[14:19] <inkpen> no kid...beet me to the punck QV :)
[14:19] <QueenVee> oh, now he's messaging obscenities to me
[14:20] <QueenVee> thanks HBO!  i thought so too
[14:20] <inkpen> he got me to
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[14:20] <inkpen> hia superzod
[14:21] <inkpen> what happened to chanserv?
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[14:23] <obany> see the topic
[14:23] <inkpen> tonyo visit #zetatalk
[14:23] <obany> !topic
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[14:23] <inkpen> hi groomee join #zetatalk
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[14:24] <groomee> hello
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[14:25] <QueenVee> Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this channel has ended. She is currently conducting a second ZetaTalk Session in the #zetatalk channel. To get to that channel, simply type the following and hit enter:  /join #zetatalk
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[14:27] <QueenVee> hi eltonyo
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[14:27] <QueenVee> Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this channel has ended. She is currently conducting a second ZetaTalk Session in the #zetatalk channel. To get to that channel, simply type the following and hit enter:  /join #zetatalk
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[14:31] <inkpen> not much in the way of chatter here now :)
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[14:40] <qu> #zetatalk is censured!
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[15:04] <lights|frukost> HELLO
[15:04] <lights|frukost> where is zetatalk channel?
[15:04] <QueenVee> This channel is only for those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. All others please visit www.zetatalk.com for basic info & #EarthChanges channel for general Poleshift/ZetaTalk/PX chat.
[15:04] <lights|frukost> okey
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[15:05] <lights|frukost> chi gung is one really good way to prepare I say
[15:05] <lights|frukost> so peace to yall
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[15:12] <QueenVee> brb
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[15:15] <Ben> hi
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[15:17] <inkpen> though that guy was banned?
[15:17] <inkpen> odd
[15:18] <QueenVee> hi inkpen
[15:18] <inkpen> hia QV
[15:18] <QueenVee> he keeps changing isps
[15:18] <inkpen> ah
[15:18] <QueenVee> what a circus over in #zetatalk
[15:19] <QueenVee> i really don't get why obany lets it go on
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[15:19] <inkpen> no kidding...ive had my fair share of crazy prvt msg's
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[15:19] <inkpen> hi cmel
[15:19] <cmell> hi
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[15:19] <QueenVee> good session in here, i thought
[15:19] <ZooSpecimen> QueenVee did you know we will move further north after shift?
[15:20] <inkpen> yes
[15:20] <QueenVee> Zoo: yes indeed
[15:20] <ZooSpecimen> wow winter is bad enough!
[15:20] <QueenVee> no, it will be warmer after because of the shift
[15:20] <cmell> yes, but the zetatalk session got full of mudsthrowing
[15:20] <JFull> Queen: You do a good g\job of keeping your house in otder
[15:20] <QueenVee> :-)
[15:20] <QueenVee> it takes a bitch
[15:20] <inkpen> i though N.america will be closer to the equater?
[15:20] <cmell> haha
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[15:21] <ZooSpecimen> it will rotate c-clockwise 90deg
[15:21] <QueenVee> ZT clearly indicates that all of canada will be warmer after the shift
[15:22] <ZooSpecimen> with alaska almost touching the equator
[15:22] <ZooSpecimen> QueenVee YES
[15:22] <inkpen> when i looked at the new map on zt it showed a counter clockwise movent
[15:22] <inkpen> YA QV
[15:22] <QueenVee> we stalwart canadians new we'd win out in the end
[15:23] <JFull> Is there a new map?
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[15:23] <QueenVee> wb groomee
[15:23] <groomee> hi
[15:23] <cmell> hi
[15:23] <JFull> I formed a ball of the "old" map
[15:24] <cmell> and ?
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[15:24] <JFull> Now east coast of US is about where Montreal is now
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[15:25] <ZooSpecimen> cut out of paper JFull?
[15:25] <cmell> I didn't know there was an old and a new map
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[15:25] <ZooSpecimen> no new map that know of
[15:25] <JFull> as far as nearness to new north pole
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[15:26] <QueenVee> can't you just see some pioneer guy leading his family into the snows of canada, saying, "Trust me. The weather will get better. it'll be just like Florida".....
[15:26] <JFull> Ink stated th looked a t the"new map on ZT
[15:26] <ZooSpecimen> ask the Z's next week if we will get a more detailed map before the PS
[15:26] <cmell> yes
[15:27] <cmell> thats a good q
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[15:27] <QueenVee> yeah, and NancyL will tell ya to get up off your ass and make one yourself
[15:27] <inkpen> silk is an annoying one
[15:27] <ZooSpecimen> lol
[15:27] <cmell> but we don't have access to the Z's
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[15:27] <cmell> there could be modifications
[15:27] <ZooSpecimen> if the Z's give me a vision of this map i will try my best! :)
[15:27] <QueenVee> cmell: the info is all there in the Safe Locations document....
[15:28] <QueenVee> i started work on such a map culled from the info given by that document..... it really wasn't hard....
[15:28] <cmell> yes I know and I've read it
[15:28] <QueenVee> but i got sidelined by the website....
[15:28] <QueenVee> getting back to the map is next on my list
[15:28] <cmell> yes and thx for doing that :)
[15:29] <QueenVee> work from an existing image... and revise it with a graphics program
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[15:30] <QueenVee> okay, i gotta move my computer and reboot. be right back.
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[15:30] <cmell> I was thinking of getting a nice atlas, with topographical maps as well
[15:30] <cmell> to bring along
[15:30] <JFull> Queen: I have realigned my old globe, but with the content shift it just dont seem right.
[15:30] <ZooSpecimen> i got a wall my but would like to get a globe
[15:31] <cmell> the atlantic widens, and the pacific shortens JFull
[15:31] <JFull> and that changes the latitudes
[15:32] <cmell> it changes the map drastically
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[15:32] <JFull> That makes it hard to visualize
[15:33] <cmell> and some places get flooded, and in other places new land appears
[15:33] <cmell> yes JFull :(
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[15:38] <cmell> JFull take a look at this : http://zetatalk.com/poleshft/p10.htm
[15:40] <JFull> That's the one I cut out and formed a ball.
[15:40] <cmell> oh ok, didn't know
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[15:41] <cmell> I would have done so long ago if I had a printer
[15:41] <JFull> but I put new holes in my globe at new poles and that is why I say it dont look the same.
[15:42] <ZooSpecimen> i tried that...didn't turn turn out so swell
[15:42] <cmell> hhhmmm, maybe thats a question for next week
[15:42] <ZooSpecimen> (making globe from paper)
[15:43] <JFull> redrew the alttude lines to get an idea as to where my new lattude would be.
[15:43] <cmell> and that didn't turn out too well ?
[15:43] <JFull> you know  -- distance from pole or equator
[15:44] <cmell> yes
[15:44] <ZooSpecimen> i tried to cut the map up to make a globe
[15:44] <ZooSpecimen> wasn't as easy as i thought! hehe
[15:45] <cmell> did you put a pin through the holes on the designated poles
[15:45] <JFull> mine looks more like a football
[15:45] <cmell> haha
[15:45] <JFull> yes
[15:45] <ZooSpecimen> now i crumpled it up and through it away :)
[15:45] <cmell> :)
[15:46] <ZooSpecimen> maybe if it was bigger i could do it better
[15:46] <ZooSpecimen> too small for my fingers
[15:46] <cmell> resize it
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[15:47] <JFull> then your printer would not print it right
[15:47] <ZooSpecimen> printer only so big
[15:47] <cmell> if you keep the aspect ratio ??
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[15:47] <cmell> you can get progs that can slice the pic up
[15:47] <JFull> unless you could use a photo enlarger and print it in 4 pages
[15:48] <ZooSpecimen> can only put 81/2 x ll paper in
[15:48] <ZooSpecimen> true
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[15:48] <inkpen> head ache :X
[15:49] <obany> those MichaelC and silk
[15:49] <obany> sigh
[15:49] <ZooSpecimen> silk and mc will never give up obany
[15:49] <JFull> if some one can make an enlargement and save it as 4 jpg's I' like a copy.
[15:49] <obany> i know