Session Start: Fri Dec 06 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #Troubled_Times
[00:00] <[3j]> yeah it is pretty much
[00:00] <[3j]> but the city people have 'terraformed' it
[00:00] <[3j]> grass everywhere, flowers, gardens
[00:00] <PoleShifter> eh
[00:00] <PoleShifter> did you see this week or last week , this guy who invented a machine to make rain
[00:00] <[3j]> no, sounds cool
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[00:00] <[3j]> id like to get my hands on that
[00:00] <[3j]> qv must be on her way back
[00:00] <[3j]> :)
[00:01] <Zetapal> 3j I always figured you more intelligent than that
[00:01] <[3j]> btw i wonder if gore being seen with and in communist china still qualifies him as a starchild
[00:01] <PoleShifter> 3J: http://www.cyberpresse.ca/reseau/sciences/0212/sci_102120163627.html
[00:01] <[3j]> nah sorry zp, no intent to offend you... but come on
[00:02] <[3j]> you stick to her like a fly on...
[00:02] <[3j]> Le Pr Stephen Salter a eu l'idée de créer une turbine d'environ 60 mètres de haut actionnée par le vent, d'une forme rappelant un batteur à oeufs et qui, placée sur un catamaran, aspirerait l'eau de mer et la pulvériserait dans l'atmosphère pour créer des nuages de pluie
[00:02] <[3j]> haha
[00:02] <[3j]> fantastique comme idee :)
[00:03] <PoleShifter> hehehe
[00:03] <Zetapal> ok cool - I,m comin on - that is not true - just because people say that doesn't make it true 3j
[00:03] <Zetapal> let me ask you something///
[00:03] <PoleShifter> oui :)
[00:03] <[3j]> crisse pleint d'eau dans l'atmosphere, poof, instant rain
[00:03] <[3j]> hehe
[00:03] <[3j]> thats frenglish, sorry
[00:03] <[3j]> dunno what happened
[00:03] <PoleShifter> lol
[00:04] <Zetapal> who do you suppose has the most serious knock down drag out fights with queen? hold on I'm not done. are you listening?
[00:04] <[3j]> yes im reading
[00:05] <Zetapal> who do you suppose manages to catch the most shit from her and get pissed off the most? hold on not done yet
[00:05] <PoleShifter> United Airlines is going bankrupted :/
[00:05] <[3j]> «On a dit qu'on ne pouvait pas construire des bateaux en fer, a-t-il rappelé au journal. On a dit que les ondes radio de Marconi ne pourraient être diffusées au-delà de l'horizon. L'Établissement a presque toujours tort».  <- nice
[00:05] <[3j]> zp, im sure you are going to say "me! (zetapal)"
[00:06] <[3j]> rain machine would be nice, but.. it could seriously screw up the entire world ecosystem
[00:06] <[3j]> imagine creating dense clouds in one area, that then pushes out other formations somewhere else
[00:06] <PoleShifter> 3j: yeah.. like everything is possible... whathever people say...  imagine all the people laughing at him when he decided to start this project... it's like you have dream and there is always some peoples to stop you from your goal or your dreams.. :/
[00:06] <Zetapal> who do you think disagrees with her most and knows exactly WHAT to disagree with her ON? because he has to deal with her in a serious manner on a regular basis as opposed to sitting back and launching vauge inuendos and gestures from afar in this room cause thats all they have to go on
[00:06] <[3j]> one desert becomes tropical only to make on tropic a desert
[00:07] <tied2> just because some of us hang in her channel don't mean were her followers we have other reasons for being there  it's not fair that some people group us all toghter like that
[00:07] <PoleShifter> 3j: not sure about that
[00:07] <[3j]> oh please zp your just spewing shit from what qv tells you
[00:08] <[3j]> and tied2, i dont label you... but when qv and her army comes here, and you wave the same flag, what do you expect
[00:08] <PoleShifter> why does a tropic as to become a desert if a desert become a tropic..... why cant the both be a tropic... if you take the water from the ocean, your not killing a tropic..
[00:08] <[3j]> just because people are in this channel doesnt mean they dont care about surviving, doesnt mean they dont think some cataclysm might happen
[00:08] <[3j]> and it doesnt mean everyone here is a debunker, a term really coined by qv btw
[00:09] <tied2> i realize that
[00:09] <Zetapal> 3j - I have always treated you fairly and respectfully, but you are really busting my balls here unfairly- what you have to go on is appearances and you are disappointing - not using your head
[00:09] <[3j]> im just pointing out the obvious :)
[00:10] <[3j]> poleshifter... no your right, but say some this rain formation causes huge clouds and condensation, it could disrupt the natural order of things that is set in the atmosphere, a order thats been formed for 1000 of years
[00:10] <[3j]> its not everyday that an area suddenly devellops a huge source of moisture
[00:11] <Zetapal> 3j - you dont know what is in the works - nor could you be trusted to know cause you can't seem to hold your toungue - you cant keep a secret therefore you don't know any. you speak as a fool thus no on trusts you - wake up man!!! and think before you speak
[00:11] <[3j]> a source of moisture that produces so much that it can make rain come out of nowhere... not overnight anyway
[00:11] <PoleShifter> 3j: yeah but think about the sahara desert that each years is expanding because of the erosion.. if we have a ps this may rebalanced all.. but if not.. we need to do something!!
[00:12] <[3j]> zp, i dont care to. zetatalk.com is bs, it spews lies that take advantage of your feelings and beliefs, you wake up! if zetas are true, then see there true intent, they have no care to save you or humanity
[00:12] <[3j]> they care of themselves only, humankind is second
[00:12] <tied2> |-_-|] hey
[00:13] <Zetapal> 3j - I am not talking about ZT you idiot
[00:14] <[3j]> Zetapal well your talking about something that has to do online here, and zetatalk.com is all that comes to mind for me.. if thats not it, enlighten me
[00:14] <[3j]> whats up? is QV going nuts again like that time she got her channel flooded? because her info is divulged? you coming her to make a truce? whats up spill it out
[00:14] <[3j]> here that is
[00:15] <[3j]> she got what she deserved.. she tells any newbie her innermost secret, what do you expect? :)
[00:15] <fetus> whats her innermost secret 3j?
[00:16] <[3j]> its a figure of speech
[00:16] <fetus> i see
[00:16] <fetus> should say secrets :)
[00:16] <[3j]> sorry didnt think people take everything so litteraly
[00:16] <[3j]> yeah
[00:16] <PoleShifter> hehehe
[00:17] <[3j]> try it okay? get a new isp, suck up to her, voila
[00:17] <[3j]> hehe
[00:17] <fetus> nah
[00:17] <[3j]> i'd wager it works, i've seen her kind countless times online
[00:17] <[3j]> analyzed, classified, dismissed
[00:17] <Zetapal> no way dude - for the reasons stated above - get a clue - and learn how to play BACK - if this was a card game I would tell you, stop showing me your cards, - like I said. you are the kind of fast talking , quick to accuse fool that is always the LAST to know something, not one of the first, I am not talkin about ZT, f ZT, if you are still debating the valigity of ZT you are way out of it, a pawn
[00:18] <[3j]> well i'd like to know what you're getting at, but im no pawn, im no fools toy
[00:18] <Zetapal> you are a fool 3j
[00:18] <fetus> the person controling you is no fool
[00:18] <[3j]> no one controls me, im more free than most of the people in here
[00:19] <Zetapal> people are laughing at you and you don't even know it, and I am not happy about that
[00:19] <Zetapal> it pisses me off
[00:19] <[3j]> hah they laugh out of there own blind faith in some wacko qv, see if i care
[00:19] <[3j]> you said it yourself, she is insane, she has problems, she is a control freak, she is an egomaniac - your words not mine
[00:19] <Zetapal> no again - forget about QV, thats not where its at
[00:20] <[3j]> three letters, I R C
[00:20] <[3j]> im not coming on here to act like i do in life
[00:20] <fetus> i cant beleive anyone thinks they can "know" a person from chatting with them...it boggles my mind.
[00:20] <[3j]> irc is very fun and thats it :)
[00:21] <Zetapal> ok - IF I said those things, then why do you accuse me of sticking to het like a fly on shit? - that doesn't make sense does it? but you say it don't you
[00:21] <[3j]> no it doesnt make sense, i stil try to understand your motives? do you lie to me and others in this channel just to get some info?
[00:21] <[3j]> werent you sucking up to someone else in here today, hmmmm?
[00:21] <Zetapal> no 3j = busting my balls is NOT trying to understand me
[00:22] <[3j]> im not busting your balls :(
[00:22] <Zetapal> see there you go again
[00:22] <Zetapal> I don't suck up - f you
[00:22] <[3j]> then get to the point Zetapal
[00:22] <[3j]> say what you have to say
[00:22] <[3j]> stop the parabols and stuff
[00:23] <Zetapal> don't piss down my back and tell me its raining is the first point I would like you to observe 3j
[00:23] <Zetapal> dont insult me then tell me your not busting my balls
[00:23] <[3j]> ok sorry, i guess i'll just sit back and let you throw shit my way
[00:23] <[3j]> no problem, see I'm STO, i dont mind anyway
[00:23] <Zetapal> what shit?
[00:23] <z> shit is insane
[00:23] <[3j]> i accept you no matter what it dont matter
[00:24] <Zetapal> what shit have I thrown at you tonight?
[00:24] * PoleShifter is now known as o_0
[00:24] <[3j]> geez, scroll up pal
[00:24] <[3j]> read !
[00:24] <[3j]> called me a fool right?
[00:24] <[3j]> dunno what else, it goes by so fast..
[00:24] <Zetapal> no way - calling you a fool for attacking me is what I consider a defense
[00:25] <Zetapal> you wouldn't respect me anyway for not defending myself, anyone would do that
[00:25] <[3j]> but then i could say attacking you is my defense of your attack? but do you know that i know that you know that i know that you know?
[00:25] <Zetapal> thats basic
[00:25] <tied2> well 3j can't really see whats going on cause QV kicks him if he goes in there. lets face it  her nasty attitude is giving us all a bad rap.
[00:25] <[3j]> i see very well what goes on there
[00:25] <[3j]> its a nice group of people who truly believe zt.com
[00:25] <Zetapal> no way - 3j - you busted my balls as soon as I came in hear - you frigging scroll up
[00:26] <[3j]> yeah i said 'qv must be coming soon' okay okay
[00:26] <[3j]> i apologize, but that wasnt so bad was it? :)
[00:26] <[3j]> actually i did somewhat apoligize by letting you know i didnt want any ill will
[00:26] <tied2> 3j just because we believe in the poleshift don't mean that we buy the whole thing lock stock and barrel
[00:27] <[3j]> i know
[00:27] <fetus> still waiting for a couple more big ass earthquakes...hope i dont have to wait to long.
[00:27] <[3j]> and i dont think you do, unless you go on explaining your beliefs, my thoughts on you or others are quite neutral, yet biased with the 'qv follower' thing
[00:27] <Zetapal> well it all started from there - you never gave me a chance - i was constantly trying to explain the seperation between me and qv - but no no no you wouldn't hear anything of it - I have spent this whole time trying to convince you of one thing or another - constantly begging after you,
[00:28] <[3j]> zp you explained your seperation, was a real nice story and all
[00:28] <[3j]> yet you still seem to suck up to her in my own eyes
[00:28] <Zetapal> now your gonna play like this has been an equal opportunistic convo -
[00:29] * Looking up |-_-| user info...
[00:29] <[3j]> i think things have been quite equal..
[00:29] <[3j]> let me know if not okay
[00:29] <Zetapal> well thats the problem 3j -you are subject to the way thing s appear to you - cause you don't know any better - and for someone to tell you different, you wont listen or take a hint
[00:29] <[3j]> i believe in fair play :)
[00:29] <[3j]> hah!
[00:29] <Zetapal> I have let you know
[00:29] <Zetapal> not fair
[00:30] <[3j]> look talk is talk
[00:30] <[3j]> its the walk that counts
[00:30] <[3j]> i can talk out of my ass, but until i DO it, its all talk
[00:30] <Zetapal> you do
[00:30] <[3j]> pff please
[00:30] <[3j]> i keep talk to a minimum on irc its a rule of mine
[00:30] <[3j]> i try to keep personal stuff outa here, unfortunately some stuff has came out
[00:31] <[3j]> cat out of the bag so to say
[00:31] <[3j]> otherwise..
[00:31] <Zetapal> every thing yo have said is vitriol - an emotional reaction rather than an intellectual action
[00:31] <[3j]> your not really here when nice debates go on
[00:32] <Zetapal> so what does that have to do with anything
[00:32] <[3j]> at those kind of times, intellectual convo comes out of my hands for sure :)
[00:32] <[3j]> otherwise yea, its emotional bs
[00:32] <Zetapal> well great
[00:33] <[3j]> much like your current situation i'd have to say
[00:33] <Zetapal> why emotional bs?
[00:33] <[3j]> replace bs with 'reaction'
[00:33] <Zetapal> then why?
[00:33] <z> then why is it dimmer now Nancy?
[00:33] <[3j]> why what
[00:33] <Zetapal> why emotional bs?
[00:33] <Zetapal> what value?
[00:33] <[3j]> bs shorter to type than emotional
[00:34] <Zetapal> to you?
[00:34] <Zetapal> no no no
[00:34] <[3j]> as in we spew out unimportant shit anyway
[00:34] <Zetapal> why do you engage in emotional bs, rather than something more thought provoking? whats the value of that to you?
[00:34] <[3j]> well sure i hold some value to these chats, i keep nice logs, i even made an info collecting bot for this network :)
[00:34] <[3j]> its great mind stimulation the reason why i stay
[00:35] <Zetapal> thats not what I asked
[00:35] <[3j]> i do engage in more mind provoking convo
[00:35] <Zetapal> forget it
[00:35] <z> you have no access to remove factoids
[00:35] <[3j]> z, shutup
[00:35] <z> [3j]: huh?
[00:35] <[3j]> heh
[00:35] <[3j]> damn
[00:35] <Zetapal> its not gonna happen
[00:35] * z has quit IRC ([3j])
[00:35] <Zetapal> I'm sorry 3j
[00:35] <Zetapal> I tried
[00:35] * [3j] sighs
[00:36] <fetus> tried to do what?
[00:36] <[3j]> you tried n-o-t-h-i-n-g
[00:36] <[3j]> like i said some 100 lines above, get to the point
[00:36] <fetus> 3j do you beleive a poleshift will happen in 2003?
[00:36] <[3j]> i belive it could fetus
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[00:37] <[3j]> believe even :)
[00:37] <fetus> :)...blip
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[00:37] <[3j]> Zetapal you still here? :)
[00:38] <[3j]> ask me whats up, whats on your mind, i still trying to figure out what you want to know
[00:39] <[3j]> ill be happy to answer, really
[00:39] * [3j] is being sincere
[00:41] * Looking up Zetapal user info...
[00:41] * Looking up raincityAFK user info...
[00:41] * Looking up raincityAFK user info...
[00:44] <[3j]> http://www.cnn.com/2002/WEATHER/12/05/wintry.storm/index.html
[00:44] <[3j]> no power
[00:45] <[3j]> sounds like what happened in canada a few years ago :)
[00:45] <[3j]> fear snow
[00:45] <[3j]> very powerful
[00:45] <[3j]> but peoeple in quebec where out of the loop for much longer though
[00:55] * Himitsu-away is now known as Himitsu
[00:55] * Himitsu returns (I'm away [58m 36s]) (total away time: 58m 36s)
[00:56] <[3j]> wb Himitsu
[00:56] <Himitsu> hiya!
[00:57] <[3j]> haaay YA!
[00:57] * [3j] kung fu kicks
[00:57] <Himitsu> lol
[00:57] <[3j]> hiya sounds like it so ..
[00:57] <Himitsu> hahah
[00:57] <[3j]> it does!
[00:57] <Himitsu> yep
[00:58] <Himitsu> whats been going on today?
[00:58] <[3j]> not much
[00:58] <z> i guess not much is made of it...a week after it happens...no one seems to remember...
[00:58] <[3j]> read about some new water found on mars though, was interesting
[00:58] <[3j]> water/ice
[00:59] <Himitsu> yeah it is
[00:59] <Himitsu> wish we would hurry up and go there
[00:59] <[3j]> no kidding
[00:59] <[3j]> compare it to the new world back in 1492
[00:59] <Himitsu> at least if I buy this, I should get some good pictures
[00:59] <Himitsu> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1943417500
[00:59] * [3j] thinks it might take some time yet
[00:59] <Himitsu> might
[01:00] <[3j]> find me a billion, ill finance some nice expeditions
[01:00] <[3j]> wonder if that could afford it
[01:00] <[3j]> hehe
[01:01] <[3j]> $107 last bid
[01:01] <Himitsu> not sure what the current estimates are for a trip
[01:01] <Himitsu> not cheap ehhe
[01:01] <[3j]> yeah its not
[01:01] <[3j]> i think magneto propulsion
[01:02] <[3j]> cheap way to up there
[01:02] <[3j]> thats the real challenge really, to defeat the cost of going out of the atmosphere
[01:02] <Himitsu> hmmm
[01:02] <Himitsu> I am not a rocket scientist, so
[01:02] <Himitsu> no ideas
[01:02] <[3j]> well i think it is
[01:02] <[3j]> the majority of fuel is spent in sending a load in space
[01:03] <Himitsu> yep
[01:03] <[3j]> an elevator would be even better
[01:03] <Himitsu> still waiting on the space elevators to get guilt
[01:03] <Himitsu> hehe
[01:03] <[3j]> hah
[01:03] <Himitsu> was about to say that
[01:03] <[3j]> same time :)
[01:03] <[3j]> if thats even possible
[01:04] <[3j]> would need some serious power though
[01:04] <Himitsu> yeah
[01:04] <[3j]> hook it up to some hydro dam
[01:04] <Himitsu> someday we'll figure it out
[01:04] <[3j]> 'someday'
[01:04] <[3j]> sad :)
[01:04] <[3j]> NOW I WANT IT NOW!
[01:05] <[3j]> gimmewarp drive
[01:05] <[3j]> kaptin kirk
[01:05] <[3j]> nah just some nice settlement with a nice view of planet earth, nice enough
[01:05] <[3j]> on the moon etc
[01:06] <Himitsu> living there for long would be bad for you
[01:06] <Himitsu> stay for too long, and you can't come back
[01:06] <[3j]> gravity issues right?
[01:06] <Himitsu> yeah
[01:06] <[3j]> so before we go, make some gravity generator
[01:06] <o_0> <[3j]> but peoeple in quebec where out of the loop for much longer though  << i was in NDG (notre-dame-de-grace), we were 8 days without electricity.. :/
[01:07] <[3j]> scifi can write it, scientist just need to make it
[01:07] <Himitsu> just bring a black hole with you
[01:07] <[3j]> o_0, yeah i was in AZ at the time... if i had stayed i would of been through it
[01:07] <[3j]> crazy stuff for montreal :)
[01:08] <o_0> yeah you can say it..
[01:08] <o_0> what time is it in az?
[01:08] <[3j]> 2
[01:08] <o_0> oh
[01:08] <[3j]> were 2 hrs diff
[01:08] <[3j]> your 4!
[01:08] <[3j]> sun be up soon :(
[01:08] <o_0> yep
[01:08] <o_0> time to go to sleep :)
[01:08] <[3j]> sucks when it comes up
[01:08] <o_0> yeah i hate it
[01:09] <o_0> i feel weird
[01:09] <o_0> hehe
[01:09] <[3j]> hehe
[01:10] <o_0> ok going to sleep, see ya all bye bye      
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[01:12] <Himitsu> do you still think tied and I are the same?
[01:14] <[3j]> hehe
[01:14] <[3j]> i suspect many people :)
[01:15] <[3j]> your all spies!!@!
[01:15] <Himitsu> lol
[01:15] <[3j]> like nancy said you know :\
[01:15] <[3j]> debunkers, cia, etc
[01:16] <Himitsu> I guess I am a debunker then
[01:16] <[3j]> hehe :)
[01:16] <[3j]> nah your just ultra pro nasa
[01:16] <[3j]> very weird considering the anti USA sentiment in this chan
[01:16] <[3j]> and i know this sounds really bad... :P
[01:17] <[3j]> but japan is elite because of USA :(
[01:17] <[3j]> and its true!!
[01:17] <Himitsu> I don't think I am pro nasa really
[01:17] <Himitsu> how is japan elite?
[01:17] <[3j]> even though japan has a very amazing history.. the current western sentiment and all
[01:17] <[3j]> japan is just cool
[01:18] <[3j]> sony, nintendo, just 2 examples
[01:18] <Himitsu> just a place like anywhere else
[01:18] <[3j]> its a cool place... it holds an image of us idealogy yet mixed with asian culture
[01:19] <[3j]> still didnt get a chance to fly there so i cant really say, nor can i speak the language
[01:19] <Himitsu> it is a nice place to visit I suppose
[01:19] <Himitsu> it is expensive though
[01:19] <[3j]> it is?
[01:20] <Himitsu> very
[01:20] <Himitsu> a coke in a vending machine is 120 yen
[01:20] <Himitsu> almost exactly a usd
[01:20] <[3j]> heh
[01:20] <[3j]> not bad :)
[01:21] <Himitsu> just a small example
[01:21] <Himitsu> other stuff is more expensive
[01:21] <tied2> himitsu are there lots of "geek girls" there?
[01:21] <Himitsu> you mean computer geeks?
[01:21] <tied2> yeah
[01:21] <[3j]> well for example, a 2 room apartment, here in az a good avg price would be around $700
[01:22] <Himitsu> LOL
[01:22] <Himitsu> more like 1700 here
[01:22] <[3j]> but you must be in some city
[01:22] <Himitsu> tied2: I guess the same as anywhere else really
[01:22] <[3j]> go out in non populated areas, its cheaper
[01:22] <Himitsu> if you go into a computer store, there are quite a few girls shopping
[01:22] <[3j]> then again i assume most of japan is dense
[01:22] <Himitsu> actually
[01:22] <Himitsu> hold on a sec
[01:23] <[3j]> hehe japan geek girls
[01:23] <[3j]> see them alot in game magazines, they all look hot
[01:23] <Himitsu> this is a good picture of how dense japan is
[01:23] <Himitsu> lol
[01:23] <[3j]> i think im turning japanese, i think im turning japanese i really think so! (some mp3)
[01:24] <Himitsu> http://homepage2.nifty.com/t-shimada/kansokuti.htm
[01:24] <[3j]> anyway its different that how japan used to be....anyone read shogun? :)
[01:24] <Himitsu> that is a picture from space during the night
[01:24] <[3j]> hah
[01:24] <[3j]> neat pic :)
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[01:25] <[3j]> lower right hand side is tokyo right
[01:25] <freax> showing directions?
[01:25] <Himitsu> yeah
[01:25] <[3j]> freax0r
[01:25] <Himitsu> the brightest spot
[01:25] <freax> [3j]'ed
[01:25] <freax> where? in the sky?
[01:26] <freax> of what?
[01:26] <[3j]> no in space
[01:26] <Himitsu> if you hold your cursor on the names, tumekizaki is where I go with my telescope sometimes
[01:26] <Himitsu> http://homepage2.nifty.com/t-shimada/kansokuti.htm
[01:26] <Himitsu> check it out freax
[01:26] <[3j]> nah it just shows up in japan font for me
[01:26] <freax> how often?
[01:27] <[3j]> all the time
[01:27] <Himitsu> rarely
[01:27] <Himitsu> have to have good weather, and it takes a couple of hours to get there
[01:27] <freax> been to that page before
[01:28] <freax> got that free radio page for art bell?
[01:28] <Himitsu> no
[01:29] <freax> www.klasomething.com
[01:29] <Himitsu> not found
[01:30] <freax> and why the hell not
[01:30] <freax> joking
[01:30] <Himitsu> not sure
[01:30] <Himitsu> lol
[01:30] <freax> [3j] and Himitsu
[01:30] <freax> you sound like each other
[01:30] <Himitsu> hehe
[01:31] <[3j]> hmm wtf
[01:31] <[3j]> I AM CANADIAN NOT HJA{AMNBESE
[01:31] <[3j]> er
[01:31] <[3j]> wtf!
[01:31] <freax> hehe
[01:31] <[3j]> i meant japanese :)
[01:31] <Himitsu> [3j] me and tied2 are all the same
[01:31] <freax> some type of ham eh Himitsu? =)
[01:31] <tied2> yeah lol
[01:31] <freax> grr
[01:31] <[3j]> i owe my allegiance to a queen like freax
[01:31] * freax kicks tied2 up the arse
[01:31] <tied2> lmao
[01:31] <freax> you blabbered about our fucking key!
[01:31] <freax> you asshole!
[01:32] <tied2> I did not
[01:32] <[3j]> hey Himitsu, does japan still have an emperor?
[01:32] * freax tackes tied2 to the ground and bashes his head in
[01:32] <Himitsu> yes
[01:32] <Himitsu> Tennoheka
[01:32] <[3j]> ah cool
[01:32] <Himitsu> just a figure head
[01:32] * tied2 freaks  don't bite off more than you can chew
[01:32] <[3j]> yeah, but still, its cool
[01:32] <tied2> lol
[01:32] <tied2> I didn't tell anyone
[01:33] <freax> not via irc
[01:33] <freax> via email
[01:33] <freax> you told quite a few people actually
[01:33] <freax> in psd
[01:33] <[3j]> japanese history is very cool really
[01:33] <tied2> oh I did  you people crack me up   how do you figure that?
[01:34] <[3j]> i thought the emperor was out though, neat hes still around
[01:34] <freax> you fucking jeapordised the line of encryption for us you asshole
[01:34] <Himitsu> he is still here
[01:34] <freax> you put peoples lives at risk!
[01:34] <Himitsu> he is the official head of state
[01:34] <Himitsu> but just for show
[01:34] <tied2> get your facts straight asshole before you go off
[01:34] <Himitsu> like the queen of England
[01:34] <[3j]> yup i remember now something about bush visiting and seeing some japanese mounted archers or something
[01:35] <[3j]> at the emperors garden i think? dunno for sure
[01:35] <Himitsu> there is a festival where they get on horses and shoot at stuff
[01:35] <Himitsu> he has a lot of gardens hehe
[01:35] <[3j]> heh
[01:35] <freax> JurAFK
[01:35] <Himitsu> a few houses all over the place
[01:35] <freax> get back from work dammit
[01:35] <[3j]> its good i think
[01:36] <[3j]> if usa had some monarch, would help the pride maybe :)
[01:36] <[3j]> make people hate us more though
[01:36] <[3j]> 'usa has a fucking crazy king!'
[01:36] <[3j]> instead of stupid rez
[01:36] <[3j]> prez
[01:36] <freax> hehe
[01:36] <freax> we got a crazy gardener
[01:37] <freax> and a prime minister
[01:37] <[3j]> yes
[01:37] <Himitsu> I really don't think bush is all that bad
[01:37] <freax> don burke went onto national tv just like he does every week
[01:37] <Himitsu> he isn't much of a public speaker thats for sure
[01:37] <[3j]> yeah
[01:37] <freax> and blabbered and complained about how global warming is doing all of this crazy shit
[01:38] <[3j]> the truth is hes an okay guy, he deals with 'common' folks more often than the international press would like to address it
[01:38] <[3j]> its really his insane cabinet, they are divided btw, who run this country
[01:38] <[3j]> how it is for each president.. the prez is a figurehead, the advisors the real power
[01:39] <[3j]> one side is like the kkk the other is like new born christians or some shit
[01:39] <Mr_Odd> nay, corporate america is the real government
[01:39] <Mr_Odd> or just those who have lots of money
[01:39] <[3j]> sure it boils down to the money in the end
[01:40] <Mr_Odd> if John Q. Public could pay a team of lobbyists $600/hour to go shmooze with senators and write laws, the world would be a much better place
[01:40] <[3j]> which eventually influences what exactly gets advised in the oval office
[01:40] <[3j]> yeah.. but senators shmenators, fuck them
[01:40] <[3j]> a bunch of fakes :)
[01:40] <Mr_Odd> read "Washington on $10 Million a Day", by Ken Silverstein, to learn how american policies really get made
[01:41] <Mr_Odd> very disturbing book
[01:41] <[3j]> i dont doubt it
[01:41] <Mr_Odd> nothing is scarier than the truth, I'm afraid
[01:41] <freax> mmm
[01:41] <[3j]> well thats what happens when we submit our voice to a few
[01:42] <[3j]> what the world needs is the power of individuals, really possible considering the mass communication now available
[01:42] <Mr_Odd> yeah
[01:42] <[3j]> all they need to implement is some criteria for eliigibility
[01:42] <[3j]> or maybe not, but i wouldnt want some welfare leech deciding shit
[01:43] <[3j]> keep your foodstamps and shut up ..
[01:43] <Mr_Odd> well there wouldn't really be many welfare leeches under a system like THAT
[01:43] <Mr_Odd> if any
[01:43] <[3j]> i dont know..
[01:43] <[3j]> theres so many lazy people
[01:43] <[3j]> welfare is not all about no possibilities, its about people loosing hope and thinking they have no chance to make it
[01:44] <[3j]> anyone can do it, look up carnegies history
[01:44] <[3j]> some really funky stuff :)
[01:44] <[3j]> or edison hehe
[01:44] <Mr_Odd> heh
[01:44] <[3j]> granted those are old examples
[01:44] <[3j]> oh yeah, and mr ford
[01:45] <[3j]> welfare peeps are wastes :)
[01:45] <Mr_Odd> unfortunately, in today's economy storied like theirs are impossible
[01:45] <Mr_Odd> -d +S
[01:45] <[3j]> you think?
[01:45] <Mr_Odd> yeah
[01:46] <Mr_Odd> a bigger company would a) buy them out or b) stomp them into the ground before something like those could develop
[01:46] <freax> mmm
[01:46] <freax> big company
[01:47] <Himitsu> like M$
[01:47] <Himitsu> http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com
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[01:47] <freax> groovy
[01:47] <[3j]> more profit in buying them out i think
[01:47] <freax> hmm
[01:47] <freax> every fucking time
[01:47] <[3j]> hehe hack your os :P
[01:47] <[3j]> or love it!
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[01:47] <freax> i get into a private conversation with someone about something thats highly classified they get dissed
[01:48] <[3j]> heh
[01:48] <[3j]> classified??!
[01:48] <[3j]> tell us!!
[01:48] <Himitsu> like what?
[01:48] <freax> sorry
[01:48] <Himitsu> lol
[01:48] <[3j]> hehe some freak is on art bell about the phoenix lights
[01:49] <Himitsu> I guess that was a mistell
[01:49] <[3j]> he is saying it was a big flying skin shio... hmm
[01:49] <Himitsu> thought you mean classified as in secret or something
[01:49] <[3j]> ship
[01:49] <Himitsu> skin ship?
[01:49] <[3j]> yeah :)
[01:49] <Himitsu> freaky sounding
[01:49] <[3j]> freak like i said,.... art bell gets too many weird callers
[01:50] <freax> heh
[01:50] <freax> heeeheee
[01:50] <Himitsu> sometimes I wish I didn't have such a vivid imagination
[01:50] <[3j]> serious
[01:50] <freax> mmm
[01:50] <freax> you'd be nuts to get one
[01:50] <[3j]> some people just call to get confirmation of there paranoia, scray
[01:50] <[3j]> scary
[01:50] <Himitsu> maybe qv should call then
[01:50] <freax> [3j]
[01:50] <Himitsu> I think she is plenty paranoid
[01:50] * [3j] thinks she did
[01:51] <[3j]> few days ago a woman called...
[01:51] <freax> can you spare one of your sex channels and PLEASE join the channel that is not spoken of
[01:51] <[3j]> he asked, where you from ?
[01:51] <[3j]> 'she said' ..
[01:51] <[3j]> hehe
[01:51] <[3j]> of course, her location
[01:51] <[3j]> then she goes on about grays
[01:51] * Engrishdotcom is now known as Yoshimitsu
[01:51] <[3j]> wtf! i commented in this chan right away
[01:54] <[3j]> said something like london ontario people are nuts :)
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[02:31] <freax> hoohoo hooo hooo hoooo
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[02:34] * ukuz is now known as |oco|
[02:35] * |oco| is now known as oco
[02:35] <oco> :)
[02:36] <Mr_Odd> oco coo ooc
[02:36] <oco> hehe
[02:36] * oco is now known as oc-
[02:37] <freax> loco oco
[02:37] <oc-> :D
[02:37] <Mr_Odd> |_oco |oco|
[02:40] <oc-> |-c-|
[02:41] <Himitsu> 10<0 10<0
[02:41] <Mr_Odd> O.o
[02:41] <freax> hehe
[02:41] <oc-> |OcO
[02:41] <Mr_Odd> himitsu is 700 1337 4 m3
[02:42] <Himitsu> lol
[02:42] <oc-> ?
[02:42] <Himitsu> 101
[02:42] <freax> |-0-| darth vader ship
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[02:42] <Himitsu> I found this sill perl script the makes my typing do that
[02:42] <Himitsu> thought it was pretty funny
[02:43] <freax> wha?
[02:43] <Himitsu> Mr_0dd |5 133+ +00
[02:43] <freax> hehe
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[02:45] <[-c-]> :)
[02:45] <Jurian> z lame |-_-|
[02:45] <z> Jurian: excuse me?
[02:46] <freax> mmm
[02:46] <Jurian> hrm, what was it again..
[02:46] <freax> lame
[02:46] <freax> hmm dont remember there
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[02:48] <BoY> :)
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[03:45] <FunBot> [obany] <-- Coffee, tea, fish and internet addict!
[03:50] <obany> hi
[04:02] <freax> hi obany
[04:02] <freax> you seen the movie called ice pirates?
[04:02] <freax> i seen it as a very very small kid
[04:02] <freax> my parents rented it
[04:03] <freax> ive always had a thought in my head of this movie, but never knew the title of the movie until today
[04:03] <freax> i hated the movie i believe
[04:04] <freax> until today i read slasdot
[04:04] <freax> now i know the exact name of the movie that eventually got me sexually abused
[04:05] <freax> quite sick isnt it
[04:07] <JurAFK> yah :/
[04:07] <freax> see it all started when i mentioned this movie to a kid in public school
[04:07] <freax> and he was quite a sick kid
[04:10] <freax> bbs
[04:16] * freax increcimentally absorbs the heat generated by his p200mmx chip so as to test its ability to function
[04:17] * freax absorbs it into a cyrix chip placed ontop of the p200mmx chip and sticks his finger on the base of the cyrix chip
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[04:21] <freax> ok works at full 200 =)
[04:23] <freax> got some kind of clock lock on it, wont go any higher than 200
[04:24] <freax> when i set it at 5.5x it goes back to 166, set it to 5x it goes at 200mhz
[04:24] <freax> set it to 4.5x it goes to 166
[04:24] <freax> and downwards from there and so on
[04:27] <freax> just got zapped by 240 volts
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[04:28] <Mr_Odd> ow
[04:28] <freax> unless it was a capacitor
[04:28] <freax> but i think i rubbed up on the 240 switch
[04:29] <freax> man it fucking shook my hand
[04:29] <Himitsu> lol
[04:29] <Mr_Odd> no shit, heh ;p
[04:29] <JurAFK> LOL :)
[04:29] <freax> gladly instinct kicked in and my hand jumped out of the case =D
[04:29] <freax> fuck
[04:29] <freax> =P
[04:29] <freax> my hand hurts
[04:29] <JurAFK> that's not instinct, that's muscle spasms :p
[04:29] <Mr_Odd> hehehehe
[04:29] <freax> well yeah
[04:29] <freax> that
[04:29] <freax> actually
[04:30] <freax> i think i rubbed up on one of the p200mmx chip pins
[04:30] <freax> it must have been a small cap on the board itself
[04:30] <freax> they'res plenty of em around the zif
[04:30] <JurAFK> lol
[04:30] <freax> if i touched 240 id be dead
[04:30] <freax> it must have been a cap
[04:30] <JurAFK> nah
[04:30] <freax> yes
[04:30] <Mr_Odd> "note to computer: human beings are not cpus"
[04:30] <JurAFK> you dont die from 240
[04:30] <JurAFK> I'd have been dead at least 3 times already then :p
[04:31] <freax> fuck i just got another jolt from the case!
[04:31] <Mr_Odd> lol
[04:31] <Mr_Odd> gotta ground!
[04:31] <freax> the fucking thing is active!
[04:31] <JurAFK> hehe, that sounds like its not grounded ;p
[04:31] <freax> and not plugged in
[04:31] * Mr_Odd slaps freax around a bit with a green wire
[04:31] <freax> no no no
[04:31] <freax> its gotta be the monitor
[04:31] <freax> the monitors still plugged in and turned on
[04:31] <JurAFK> lol
[04:31] <freax> the monitor earth is the computer earth
[04:31] <freax> etc
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[04:31] <freax> i touched the rack and thats not active
[04:32] <freax> so its gotta be the monitor
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[04:32] <Mr_Odd> err
[04:32] <Mr_Odd> stupid alt+z ;p
[04:32] <Mr_Odd> anywho
[04:32] <Mr_Odd> you prolly just touched the case before getting zapped
[04:32] <freax> hmmm, what to discharge it on
[04:32] <Himitsu> 240 volts won't kill you freax
[04:32] * freax grabs a set of rubber gloves from the kitchen
[04:32] <Himitsu> trust me
[04:32] <Himitsu> hehe
[04:32] <JurAFK> hehe
[04:32] <freax> yeah? you tell that to my great-great grandfather
[04:33] <Himitsu> I work on a system that only uses 80 volts
[04:33] <JurAFK> its a very nasty feeling to get zapped with 240V
[04:33] <freax> he touched the active line of a valve tv
[04:33] <freax> got blown back into his chair
[04:33] <Himitsu> touch it and somebody will be picking you up with a broom
[04:33] <JurAFK> erm, a TV is slightly more than 240V
[04:33] <freax> no
[04:33] <freax> not the chassi
[04:33] <Mr_Odd> lol himitsu
[04:33] <JurAFK> like.. 15kV+, afaik
[04:33] <Himitsu> 80 volts
[04:33] <freax> specially if its an active chassi
[04:33] <Himitsu> 2500 amps
[04:33] <JurAFK> 2.5kA !?
[04:33] <freax> the ht psu is 15kV up to 30kV
[04:33] <JurAFK> ouch? :)
[04:33] <Himitsu> hehe
[04:34] <freax> thats not what he touched
[04:34] <Himitsu> yep
[04:34] <Himitsu> I never touched it
[04:34] <freax> brb discharging this damn case and getting rid of the monitor
[04:34] <JurAFK> obviously :p
[04:34] <JurAFK> you wouldn't be typing here, if you had
[04:34] <Himitsu> no kidding
[04:34] * freax grabs his big ass earth line he's got for the valve radio
[04:34] <Himitsu> hehe
[04:34] <JurAFK> I mean.. fuck! 2500A !! :)
[04:35] <Himitsu> yeah, it is a mofo
[04:35] <JurAFK> 200 kW
[04:35] <Himitsu> hmm
[04:35] <Himitsu> I must have made a mistake
[04:35] <Mr_Odd> that's more than a lightning strike
[04:35] <Himitsu> it should have ~250kwats
[04:35] <JurAFK> hehehe
[04:35] <Himitsu> the other one makes 300kw
[04:35] <freax> what im fucking worried about is that it didnt earth it in the first fucking place through the power point
[04:35] <Himitsu> Kw
[04:36] <JurAFK> well, unless P = U * I doesn't work anymore, P = 80 * 2500 = 200k :p
[04:36] <JurAFK> kW
[04:36] <JurAFK> not Kw :p
[04:36] <Himitsu> k
[04:36] <Himitsu> I can't remember the formula
[04:36] <JurAFK> you should know that :p
[04:36] <Himitsu> been too long since school
[04:36] <JurAFK> U = I * R
[04:36] <Himitsu> that school was a llooooong time ago
[04:36] <JurAFK> P = U * I
[04:36] <Himitsu> sec
[04:36] <JurAFK> afiak :)
[04:36] <Himitsu> thats right
[04:37] <Himitsu> time for z
[04:37] <freax> me types with gloves
[04:37] <freax> man this is weird
[04:37] <Mr_Odd> hehe
[04:37] <Himitsu> z, 2500 time 88
[04:37] <z> Himitsu: i'm not following you...
[04:37] <Himitsu> z, 2500 times 88
[04:37] <z> 220000
[04:37] <Mr_Odd> O.o
[04:37] <Himitsu> z, 2500 times 90
[04:37] <z> 225000
[04:37] <Himitsu> z, 30000 times 80
[04:37] <z> 2400000
[04:37] <Himitsu> thats it
[04:37] <freax> now i feel like those intel dudes
[04:37] <Himitsu> thats one system
[04:38] <Himitsu> 240k
[04:38] <JurAFK> argh? :)
[04:38] <Himitsu> z, 3000 times 80
[04:38] <z> 240000
[04:38] <JurAFK> 3kA
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[04:38] <freax> ok case discharged now the monitor
[04:38] <Himitsu> been a long time since I went to that school
[04:38] <freax> im using the kitchen sink
[04:38] <Himitsu> we only measure the voltage anyway when we do alignments
[04:39] <Jurian> yeah but.. seeing as you work with that kinda shit, I figured you should know those 2 formula's :p
[04:39] <Himitsu> to check actual output we look for db
[04:39] <Himitsu> I remember
[04:39] <Jurian> hehe
[04:39] <Himitsu> I have to knock down the cobwebs
[04:39] <Himitsu> you are making me thing
[04:39] <Himitsu> ug
[04:39] <Himitsu> think
[04:39] <Himitsu> rememeber
[04:39] <Himitsu> pain
[04:39] <Himitsu> ackc
[04:39] <Jurian> lol
[04:39] * Mr_Odd throws a bucket of water on himitsu
[04:39] <Mr_Odd> ;p
[04:39] <Himitsu> I need that
[04:40] <freax> damn stinky rubber gloves =D
[04:40] <Himitsu> bah
[04:40] <freax> fuck that hurt
[04:40] <Himitsu> rubber gloves on a pc
[04:40] <Jurian> heh
[04:40] <Himitsu> WIMP!
[04:40] <freax> man
[04:40] <freax> p200mmx chips dont have any tops on em
[04:40] <Jurian> as long as you only make contact with 1 hand, there shouldn't be a problem
[04:40] <freax> they show the bare pins
[04:40] <Jurian> other than pain :p
[04:41] <freax> i touched one of the pins
[04:41] <freax> that was connected to one of the caps on the board
[04:41] <Jurian> clock pulse generator maybe?
[04:41] <freax> possible!
[04:41] <Himitsu> at least in my job there is no pain if you mess up
[04:41] <freax> it was off at the time though
[04:41] <Jurian> not sure if they'd hurt at all
[04:41] <freax> maybe it was still going etc
[04:41] <freax> cap discharging etc
[04:41] <Jurian> 200 MHz pulse would hurt a bit, I think :p
[04:41] <freax> should have waited 30 seconds
[04:41] <freax> before i touched it
[04:42] <freax> i was pulling it out of the socket
[04:42] <freax> mmm
[04:42] <freax> shook my hand at 200mhz with mmx technology =)
[04:42] <Mr_Odd> hehehehehe
[04:42] <Jurian> Himitsu: and if there IS pain, its short, before you die :)
[04:42] * Mr_Odd plays doom on freax's hand
[04:42] <Himitsu> real short
[04:42] <freax> getting to know an intel processor is no fun in the park
[04:42] <Jurian> iNTEL Freax 200 MHz
[04:42] <Himitsu> short to gound and it is over
[04:42] <freax> hehehe
[04:43] <freax> iNTEL Pentium 200 with frEAX tech
[04:43] <freax> the EAX is when i scream
[04:43] <Jurian> :p
[04:43] <Jurian> hehe.. the new, screaming fast Freax CPU ! :)
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[04:44] <Stony20> hhiho
[04:44] <freax> thunderfreax anyone?
[04:44] <Stony20> hi freax
[04:44] <freax> heya
[04:44] * freax discharges onto Stony20
[04:45] <freax> hope the fucking chip isnt fried
[04:45] <freax> =(
[04:45] <freax> no way to check either
[04:45] <freax> no spare monitor
[04:46] <Stony20> curious expression freax :)
[04:47] <Stony20> i dont get it
[04:47] <freax> i was zapped a second ago by some mainboard capacitors
[04:47] <freax> thought i touched the 240volt line for the front case switch
[04:47] <Stony20> oh i see
[04:47] <freax> if i did i would be dead, so im assuming the onboard caps
[04:47] <freax> nasty fucking p200mmx chip
[04:48] <Jurian> freax: you wouldn't be dead :p
[04:48] <Jurian> not likely at all
[04:48] <Himitsu> Jurian: you said U * I = P
[04:48] <freax> then tell me this jurian
[04:48] <freax> how come
[04:48] <Jurian> Himitsu: yeah, I think so? :p
[04:48] <Himitsu> in school it was E not U
[04:48] <Himitsu> E * I = P
[04:48] <Jurian> heh, different in other countries I suppose
[04:48] <Mr_Odd> in my school it was V ;p
[04:48] <Himitsu> lol
[04:48] <Himitsu> must be
[04:48] <freax> 3 people died the other day BY a 240volt electric shock from a pressure water cleaner in their back yard of victoria?
[04:48] <Himitsu> I never understood that either
[04:48] <freax> 2 kids and one wife
[04:49] <freax> ill get the web page if you want
[04:49] <Jurian> E = energy, U = the original name for voltage, V = for lamers what can't remember volt is U :)
[04:49] <Himitsu> voltage starts with v, but in the formula use E
[04:49] <freax> mmm
[04:49] <Himitsu> of course, I is current
[04:49] <freax> ohms law
[04:49] <Himitsu> makes sense
[04:49] <freax> duh
[04:49] <Mr_Odd> water on skin makes a much better current than metal on skimn
[04:49] <Mr_Odd> err current = contact
[04:49] <Jurian> freax: of course, it CAN kill, but it doesn't always HAVE TO
[04:49] <Jurian> I've touched 240 at least 3 times
[04:49] <Jurian> and afaik, I'm still quite alive
[04:49] <Stony20> oh got a call gotta go
[04:49] <freax> and what amperage do you get there?
[04:49] <z> there is always spirits around people even if they are not opened up
[04:49] <Stony20> cya !
[04:50] <freax> for a standard 240volt line?
[04:50] <Mr_Odd> cya
[04:50] <Himitsu> I think the most I felt was
[04:50] <Jurian> 16 amp
[04:50] <freax> cya Stony20
[04:50] <freax> good fucking god
[04:50] <Himitsu> it was 400 hz I know that
[04:50] <freax> we get 10amps max here =P
[04:50] <Himitsu> can't remember
[04:50] <Himitsu> hehe
[04:50] <freax> thats like 3500watts per port!
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[04:50] <freax> 2400 here
[04:51] <freax> hmm
[04:51] <Jurian> yeah, so if I'm still alive, you should be fine :p
[04:51] <Jurian> of course, its not something to do for "fun"
[04:51] <Jurian> cause it damn well CAN be lethal
[04:51] <freax> what im worried about still though is that the case was charged
[04:51] <Jurian> if it passes through your heart, you're fucked
[04:51] <freax> so it musnt be the chip
[04:51] <freax> well yes
[04:51] <Himitsu> pretty much
[04:51] <freax> arms close to heart
[04:51] <freax> 2 arms
[04:51] <freax> dead
[04:51] <Jurian> 2 arms = fucked
[04:52] <freax> 1 arm to earth possibly alive
[04:52] <Jurian> 1 arm = OUCH, GODDAMNIT #*$)#@* ;p
[04:52] <freax> hehehe
[04:52] <Himitsu> in school we were told that for 24hours after a shock you have a higher chance of a heart attack
[04:52] <Jurian> probably true
[04:52] <freax> i should think so
[04:52] <Jurian> it probably causes quite a big fucking mess inside
[04:52] <Himitsu> not something I want to test
[04:52] <Himitsu> heh
[04:53] <freax> ask shadowcow to test that
[04:53] <Himitsu> only been shocked 2 or 3 times at work
[04:53] <Himitsu> that was enough
[04:53] <Jurian> hehe
[04:53] <Jurian> you kinda get used to it :p
[04:53] <Himitsu> no way
[04:53] <Jurian> but its never fun
[04:53] <Himitsu> not me
[04:53] <freax> eh
[04:53] <freax> i hate electricity now
[04:53] <Himitsu> lol
[04:53] <Jurian> it doesn't really hurt, its just.. VERY weird :p
[04:54] <freax> mmm
[04:54] <freax> tingly sensation =)
[04:54] <Jurian> like someone's poking 10000's of needles in your arm :p
[04:54] <freax> i had a geared 240 volt motor out of a photocopier once
[04:54] <Jurian> and then you get spasms, and let go :)
[04:54] <Jurian> then you start swearing
[04:54] <freax> i turned it with my hand and made 140 volts on a multimeter
[04:54] <Jurian> at the MOFO that put the fuse back in without asking why it wasn't in
[04:54] <freax> unless of course your finger gets melted there
[04:54] <freax> hehe
[04:55] <freax> mmm
[04:55] <Mr_Odd> mmmm... melted finger
[04:55] <freax> fucking idiots i tell you
[04:55] <Mr_Odd> smells delicious!
[04:55] <Jurian> :p
[04:55] <freax> got a pic of a burnt finger if you like
[04:55] <Mr_Odd> no thanks ;x
[04:55] <Jurian> ever since I had that "idiot replaces fuse without asking" happen, I take the fuses with me, when I'm messing with the grid :p
[04:55] <Jurian> no more replacing them without permission
[04:55] <freax> hehehe
[04:56] <freax> why are you messing with the power supply anyway?
[04:56] <freax> do you have people around you or are you at work doing this?
[04:56] <Mr_Odd> cuz he's jurian ;p
[04:56] <Jurian> was putting up a new light :p
[04:56] <freax> at work?
[04:56] <Jurian> so needed to hook it up to the grid
[04:56] <Jurian> yeah, once
[04:56] <freax> mmm
[04:57] <Jurian> and 2 times at home, at least
[04:57] <freax> blue is active and brown is neutral right Jurian?
[04:57] <Jurian> not really
[04:57] <freax> not in your country? =P
[04:57] <Jurian> AC, there isn't really an active and neutral one
[04:57] <freax> well !@!@!
[04:57] <freax> of course friggen not!
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[04:57] <freax> its ac alternating current
[04:58] <freax> active is neutral half clock cycle and neutral is active the other clock
[04:58] <freax> but its still a good idea
[04:58] <Jurian> yeah, goes over both, so touch either of 'em, and it can get unpleasant :p
[04:58] <Jurian> only black wires are usually safe
[04:58] <freax> specially if you dont want your diodes on the secondary of your transformer blowing up
[04:58] <Mr_Odd> hehe, here in the states black wires are the unsafe ones ;p
[04:59] <Jurian> seeing as they're switch->socket wires, and shouldn't do shit if the switch is in the off position
[04:59] <freax> they have black as neutral AC over there Mr_Odd?
[04:59] <freax> instead of brown?
[04:59] <freax> heh
[04:59] <Jurian> and green/yellow is earth :)
[04:59] <freax> yah
[04:59] <freax> and what does that go to in an active chassis device Jurian?
[05:00] <Jurian> eh? :)
[05:00] <freax> like a tv
[05:00] <freax> nowhere...
[05:00] <freax> right
[05:00] <freax> because neutral is earth
[05:00] <freax> in active chassis devices
[05:00] <freax> hence the reason why tv's say do not touch chassis on the back
[05:00] <freax> because when you touch any metal surface in an active chassis device, you get the pure neutral line
[05:01] <freax> with lights like fluros though, they're 3 phase
[05:01] <Jurian> you should never mess with devices that are powered on :p
[05:01] <freax> the chassis is earth a completely seperate device
[05:01] <freax> well of course not
[05:01] <Jurian> nor devices that have high capacity capacitators, without discharging the mofo's first
[05:01] <freax> but some switches only turn off active, like the cheap ass japanese shit we get here sometimes
[05:01] <Himitsu> lol
[05:01] <freax> and believe it or not, its approved
[05:01] <Jurian> heh
[05:01] <Himitsu> most of the time when you are troubleshooting though, you have to do it when the beast is on
[05:01] <freax> by the government
[05:02] <freax> mmm
[05:02] <freax> thats when an insulated plastic screwdriver kit comes in
[05:02] <Jurian> Himitsu: yeah, but people who have to work with them powered on, usually know wtf they're doing ;p
[05:02] <Himitsu> usually
[05:02] <freax> hehe
[05:02] <Himitsu> or they don't work on it for long
[05:02] <Jurian> exactly
[05:02] <freax> not like that tafe dude who skipped a couple of classes
[05:03] <Jurian> well, we had an interesting "electrician" that came to fix something at work..
[05:03] <freax> heh
[05:03] <Jurian> he couldn't figure out what fuse to take out, for the socket he needed to work on
[05:03] <Jurian> so he short-circuited the socket
[05:03] <freax> dear
[05:03] <freax> god
[05:03] <Jurian> goddamn idiot
[05:03] <freax> =D
[05:03] <freax> hehehe
[05:03] <freax> behahahaha
[05:03] <Jurian> fried the PABX
[05:03] <freax> oooh
[05:03] <Jurian> and every pc on the floor went down
[05:04] <freax> hacker in disguise eh?
[05:04] <freax> =P
[05:04] <Jurian> the idiot had managed to blow out the main fuse for the building
[05:04] <freax> ooh
[05:04] <freax> nasty
[05:04] <Mr_Odd> wowza
[05:04] <Jurian> so only the 19" rack with the servers was still going, cause that was on a mean-assed UPS
[05:04] <Jurian> (which only weights about 75 kg)
[05:04] <freax> i wouldnt want to see the lines that were feeding the fuse sockets he was working on
[05:04] <Jurian> uh, what lines?
[05:05] <freax> must be nastishly burnt if he blew the main fuse
[05:05] <Jurian> after he was done, they had to be replaced
[05:05] <freax> mmm
[05:05] <freax> blackened inside =D
[05:05] <Jurian> insulation was melted :p
[05:05] <freax> yep
[05:05] <freax> hence why plastic shouldnt be used as insulation
[05:05] <Jurian> heh, poor guy..
[05:05] <Jurian> I was calling him nasty things for about 10 minutes
[05:05] <Jurian> yelling at him
[05:05] <freax> roflmao
[05:06] <freax> wish i had that on mp3
[05:06] <Jurian> I was SOOOO goddamn mad at him :p
[05:06] <freax> hehe
[05:06] <Jurian> and then the boss noticed the phones were dead
[05:06] <Jurian> so we went to check the PABX
[05:06] <Jurian> only to find out 3 of the 5 cards were cooked
[05:06] <freax> good lord
[05:06] <freax> what kind of power supply was in those?
[05:07] <Jurian> including the power supply card, the line card, and the wireless card
[05:07] <Mr_Odd> yikes
[05:07] <Jurian> so then the boss went to "talk" to the dude :p
[05:07] <freax> mmm, nice
[05:07] <Mr_Odd> hehe
[05:07] <Jurian> and then the building owner came up asking wtf happened and why the power was dead :p
[05:07] <Mr_Odd> lol
[05:07] <Jurian> so all in all, he had about an hour of being sweared at :p
[05:08] <freax> mmm
[05:08] <freax> how old was he?
[05:08] <Jurian> probably got kicked in the head at the office after that as well
[05:08] <Jurian> too old, imho :P
[05:08] <Jurian> 50+
[05:08] <Jurian> fucking retard
[05:08] <freax> good god
[05:08] <freax> lol
[05:08] <freax> thats atricous
[05:08] <freax> poor dude =P
[05:08] <freax> retiring a crazy man
[05:08] <freax> i feel for him
[05:09] <Jurian> so since that shit happened, I did the few changes we needed done, at work :p
[05:09] <freax> my dads just the same, nuts
[05:09] <freax> you a qualified electrician?
[05:09] <Jurian> no, but he was
[05:09] <Jurian> and see what that got us :p
[05:09] <freax> hehe
[05:09] <Jurian> at least I've got common sense
[05:09] <freax> so
[05:09] <freax> mmm
[05:09] <freax> common sense is a virtue not a right
[05:10] <Mr_Odd> ;)
[05:10] <Jurian> and I make people turn off their equipment and unplug everything, before we turn the power back on :p
[05:10] <freax> you cant buy it nor can you inherit it, you've gotta make it yourself
[05:10] <Jurian> just to be sure
[05:10] <freax> hehe
[05:10] <Jurian> then test with a cheap ass light :p
[05:10] <freax> lol
[05:10] <Jurian> and of course multimeters
[05:10] <Jurian> only then we'd put the pc's back in :)
[05:10] <Jurian> never once fucked up
[05:10] <freax> that wont work, some psus require proper wiring of the lines
[05:10] <Mr_Odd> well that is pretty foolproof
[05:11] <Jurian> proper wiring??
[05:11] <freax> try a ac dc based power supply
[05:11] <Jurian> there's only 3 wires, as long as you put the ground wire on the right port, you can't do wrong
[05:11] <freax> yes, just remember that the active is stronger than neutral
[05:11] <Jurian> erm
[05:11] <freax> it makes a difference
[05:11] <freax> believe me
[05:12] <freax> for example
[05:12] <freax> you stick a motor on 240volt
[05:12] <Jurian> seeing as you can plug thing in upside down in any 240V socket, it shouldn't matter one shit
[05:12] <freax> it goes the right way
[05:12] <freax> reverse the polarity
[05:12] <freax> what happens?
[05:12] <Jurian> it'll turn the wrong way, sure, I know :p
[05:12] <freax> exactly
[05:12] <freax> with computers if the polarity is wrong they wont fail just yet
[05:13] <Jurian> that's cause the ion flow is reversed, not cause one side is stronger than the other :p
[05:13] <freax> well yes
[05:13] <freax> but i needed to dumb it down
[05:13] <freax> you mean an electron flow
[05:13] <Jurian> its even funnier with 3 phase cables :p
[05:13] <freax>  it aint funny....
[05:13] <Jurian> yeah, that's what I said
[05:14] <Mr_Odd> it's almost as funny as....
[05:14] <Jurian> 3phase is funny :p
[05:14] <Mr_Odd> YOUR MOM!
[05:14] * Mr_Odd runs
[05:14] <Jurian> 380-400V :D
[05:14] <freax> http://search.abc.net.au/search/cache.cgi?collection=abcall&doc=http/www.abc.net.au/news/australia/wa/northwa/regnwa-4dec2002-6.htm
[05:14] <freax> "The combination of those two situations really, together with the water that would have been present in the area really proved to be unfortunately, a deadly combination."
[05:14] <freax> it dosent need 2 arms
[05:15] <freax> to kill
[05:15] <Jurian> no, I never said it needed 2
[05:15] <Jurian> but 2 is almost always lethal
[05:15] <Jurian> 1 is, usually, survivalbe
[05:15] <freax> http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/s327529.htm
[05:15] <Jurian> surviveable, even
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[05:15] <freax> " It's an unenviable record -- for years now, Queensland has had one of the highest electrocution rates in the western world. In work places, on farms and at home, people are dying in electrical accidents at a rate double the national average."
[05:15] <freax> hi |-_-|
[05:16] <freax> hi |Malakai|
[05:16] <freax> thats another reason why you shouldnt come to australia
[05:16] <freax> "Successive state governments have been blamed for allowing a slippage of safety standards and in a series of reports, the state's ombudsman has severely criticised regulatory agencies, whose investigations into fatal incidents rarely result in prosecutions."
[05:16] <Mr_Odd> ombudsman?
[05:17] <freax> "LISA MILLAR: Tim Martin was a 17-year-old apprentice electrician when he suffered a massive electric shock almost two years ago. It took a month for him to die. George and Judy Sokol also lost their son. Nick, like Tim Martin was a 17-year-old apprentice."
[05:17] <freax> yes, the control dude here
[05:17] <freax> ACCC is an obdusman
[05:17] <Mr_Odd> ah
[05:17] <freax> australian consumer and competition commision
[05:17] <freax> "LISA MILLAR: Nick Sokol touched live wires in a vacuum cleaner."
[05:17] <Jurian> heh, obviously, electricity *IS* a dangerous thing
[05:17] <Mr_Odd> "It took a month for him to die." what a horrible thing to say
[05:18] <|Malakai|> hi
[05:18] <freax> "LISA MILLAR: More than 60 people have been electrocuted in Queensland, in the past five years, double any other state."
[05:18] <Jurian> and noone should mess with it, unless they know wtf they're doing, and keeping to STRICT safete regulations
[05:18] <freax> Jurian: ive been told by my father and every fucking diddly electrician at the amateur club in toronto, DONT TOUCH 240v
[05:19] <freax> Jurian: unless you know what you're doing =)
[05:19] <Jurian> of course you shouldn't
[05:19] <freax> Jurian: but even then keep caution
[05:19] <Jurian> heh, especially then
[05:19] <Mr_Odd> "gee, i wonder what happens if I touc-ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTT"
[05:19] <Jurian> lol
[05:20] * freax watches as Mr_Odd turns into a pile of carbon on the floor
[05:20] <freax> workplace saftey in this country is atrocious if you ask me
[05:20] * Mr_Odd amazes everyone by being the first pile of carbon able to operate a keyboard and chat online
[05:20] <freax> all the government does is show ads about it
[05:20] <Jurian> a friend of mine's accidentally touched a monitor's capacitor :p
[05:20] <freax> on tv
[05:20] <freax> which one?
[05:20] <z> which one is it? the circles or the rectangles should we be looking in?
[05:20] <Mr_Odd> omg jur
[05:20] <Jurian> he was thrown off his chair and couldn't move for over an hour
[05:20] <Mr_Odd> lol@z
[05:20] <Jurian> was ok tho :)
[05:21] <Mr_Odd> wow
[05:21] <freax> the one of the mains psu or one of the high tension?
[05:21] <freax> must have been the high tension
[05:21] <Jurian> the high tension one :p
[05:21] <freax> mmm
[05:21] <freax> dont tell me
[05:21] <freax> a thorn tv set?
[05:21] <freax> or a sony trinitron/
[05:21] <Jurian> no, a mac monitor, I think
[05:21] <freax> heh
[05:21] <Jurian> forgot to discharge it
[05:21] <freax> nasty
[05:21] <freax> well, yah
[05:21] <Jurian> before opening it
[05:21] <Jurian> idiot :)
[05:22] <freax> grab the sealed cap off of the crt and put it on the chassis WHILE its plugged in but not turned on
[05:23] <freax> "GORDON NUTTALL, QLD INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS MINISTER: Look I think you have to apportion the blame to everybody. I don't think there's any one person. If you look at both, yes, you're right. The Electrical Safety Office the division of Workplace Health and Safety."
[05:23] <freax> now who does that sound like?
[05:23] <freax> he's avoiding the conversation
[05:23] <freax> like everyone else here in power
[05:23] <Jurian> bbl, cooking cd
[05:23] * Jurian is now known as JurAFK
[05:24] <freax> even the fucking police governor avoided a conversation with the media the other month
[05:24] <obany> Jurian: how does that taste, a cooked CD ??? :P
[05:24] <freax> mmm, cd
[05:24] <freax> cod fish by any chance?
[05:24] <freax> a typo?
[05:25] * freax grabs the multimeter and tests the cables for the computer and monitor
[05:27] <freax> reckon i should test the earth of the power point too?
[05:28] <freax> hmm, this is weird, both cables are fine
[05:28] * Mr_Odd casts wicked voodoo magic on freax's cables
[05:29] <freax> not a good report
[05:30] <freax> the case isnt earthed at fucking all
[05:30] <freax> this is a dead port
[05:30] <freax> i could have been killed at anytime the past 2 months
[05:31] <freax> bbs changing extension cables
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[05:32] * juditness is back.. Mr_Odd is my biznitch. :D [been gone for: 6hrs 21mins 7secs] at 14:33:52
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[05:42] <freax> bloody fkn extension cable
[05:42] <freax> there was no earth whatsoever betwen the kitchen sink and the case of the router
[05:42] <freax> nor of the athlon
[05:42] <freax> or any other device hooked up to the extension
[05:42] <freax> ive replaced it and there's a strong signal
[05:43] <freax> err buzz
[05:43] <freax> =)
[05:43] <freax> cheap ass cable
[05:43] <freax> rated for 2300 work, couldnt even do 500watt work
[05:43] <freax> let alone any sort of work
[05:44] <freax> damn, still burning that cd...
[05:46] <freax> well that was interesting
[05:46] * freax puts on a rubber glove and installs the p200 chip again
[05:50] <freax> damn thats fast
[05:51] <freax> loaded win2kpro faster than my athlon does
[05:51] <Mr_Odd> heh
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[05:57] <freax> you know what could be a good UPS
[05:57] <freax> a cheap ass one at that
[05:57] <freax> you get an inverter
[05:57] <freax> this is different btw
[05:57] <freax> run a couple of 300volt so hundred farad caps on the 240 volt line
[05:58] <freax> and get a low voltage detection curciut
[05:58] <freax> anything that falls below lets say 200volts it powers up the inverter
[05:58] <freax> lets say its running with a protection curciutry etc, runs through the caps and to the equipment
[05:59] <freax> power fails, the caps run the load, and the detection circuitry kicks in to run the inverter which moves it over from the mains mains-caps-computer to the inverter-caps-computer
[06:00] <freax> of course with a cheap funky surge and ripple circuitry
[06:00] <freax> although, finding the caps for AC is a big problem
[06:01] <freax> seeing caps remove the ac =P
[06:01] <freax> http://www.pcguide.com/ref/power/ext/ups/typesOnLine-c.html
[06:05] <freax> damn, delta converters must be huge
[06:07] * obany goes now laters
[06:08] <freax> k
[06:08] * obany is now known as obaway
[06:10] <freax> http://www.electricpowergenerator.com/windturbine.html
[06:11] <freax> motor inverters are cool
[06:16] <Zetapal> interesting article, delta converters - wonder if the phone company uses them
[06:18] <freax> mmm
[06:18] <Zetapal> didn't think I was listening huh ? :)
[06:19] <freax> heh no
[06:20] <Zetapal> makes sense - since you loose so much efficiency due to heat
[06:20] <freax> quite
[06:20] <freax> and inverters arent exactly 90% efficient =D
[06:21] <Zetapal> of course the phone company doesn't turn power back to AC for the lines
[06:21] <freax> err
[06:21] <freax> dont they? =)
[06:22] <Zetapal> no I thinks its all DC
[06:22] <freax> i should think it would be alternated at some way
[06:22] <freax> yes
[06:22] <freax> you're right
[06:22] <freax> i remember when i checked the lines they werent alternating
[06:22] <freax> think they're around 20-40 volts here
[06:23] <Zetapal> even the equipment in the co-location rooms - the ADSL units and such are DC - they may have inverters on the rack itself but the power delivered is DC
[06:24] <freax> mmm, the racks are dc
[06:24] <freax> eaisier to deliver if they're near by
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[06:24] <Zetapal> I used to install the ADSL units - it was the most fun i ever had on a job - like building a big erector set
[06:25] <freax> hehe
[06:26] <Zetapal> frames, install the units, connect power, run the T1's T3's and line level connections
[06:26] <freax> mmm, t3
[06:27] <Zetapal> yeah the T3's ran on a small coax cable
[06:28] <Zetapal> tiny little thing
[06:28] <freax> sure it wasnt optical network?
[06:28] <Zetapal> no no
[06:28] <freax> has a square plug ?
[06:28] <freax> k
[06:28] <freax> how small?
[06:28] <freax> 1centimetre in thickness?
[06:29] <freax> or 1/2 a cm?
[06:29] <freax> heh, wouldnt be 1cm...
[06:29] <freax> unless it was very shielded coax
[06:29] <Zetapal> we did those too -- I never worked with fiber myself but Im sure a T3 COULD run on fiber and probably does in many dases but with these ADSL units
[06:30] <freax> a t3 is a speed classification
[06:30] <freax> err -a
[06:30] <Zetapal> they used small coax cause there were only a few needed - most connections were line level
[06:30] <freax> optical networking goes to 1000megabit
[06:30] <freax> for now =)
[06:30] <freax> mmm i think t3 is around 10mbit
[06:31] <freax> 1megabyte a second
[06:31] <Zetapal> yeah I think so - sounds about right
[06:32] * freax does some work on earthing his box
[06:32] <Zetapal> yeah its a question of the number of T3 connections you wanna get out of a cable - of course with fiber which has much more bandwidth capability, you use that for your big stuff
[06:32] <freax> bl
[06:34] <Zetapal> Im gonna go watch the second episode of "Taken"
[06:34] <freax> think ill upload the first grass roots magazine to my site
[06:34] <freax> or at least a part of it
[06:34] <freax> k
[06:34] <Zetapal> oh you got a site
[06:35] <Zetapal> you and jurian are like the tech heads
[06:35] <Zetapal> me not so much
[06:36] <Zetapal> enjoyed the story about the old guy shorting out the plug to see which circuit he was on, that was funny
[06:36] <freax> mm
[06:36] <freax> =)
[06:38] <Zetapal> bout the most technical thing I'd wanna do, if not get back into telco work would be building my own pC, but that really should be a breeze - I replaced a power supply in a computer for a girl i work with, fixed it in two days, it was nothin to it really,she's a latina , a hottie
[06:39] <Zetapal> that was two days ago
[06:40] <Zetapal> these are just random comments, you can disregard or change topic at will
[06:41] <Zetapal> blah - just finished a pint1/2 of fischer Amber
[06:41] <freax> hehe
[06:42] <Zetapal> now switching to a local micro-brewed pale ale - wooo  hoppy
[06:43] <Zetapal> I guess i'll go watch that show now
[06:43] <Zetapal> c ya
[06:45] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[06:46] * Zetapal is now known as Zetapal_Away
[06:48] <freax> brb
[06:53] <Zetapal_Away> This "Taken" show is awesome !
[06:54] <freax> awesome as in aww or awe?
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[06:57] <Zetapal_Away> no I like it, not since Close encounters have we had something so intrigueing - I especially like that one of the main characters, the guy who Is the Air force general who is wheeling and dealing his way to the top and now (ep 20 is in charge of groom lake, is aa sts asshole kind of dude - :)
[06:59] <Zetapal_Away> ep 2
[07:05] <freax> this monitor is fine
[07:05] <freax> must have been the mainboard caps
[07:06] <freax> ive removed an insulator i put underneath a screw near the ram chip slots
[07:06] <freax> i usually put one there because on some old boards the system dosent even turn on
[07:07] <freax> if its earthed there
[07:07] <freax> but now its off and working fine, on this board
[07:08] <freax> damn this chip is fast =)
[07:21] <freax> freax.20m.com/earth garden/
[07:25] <freax> http://freax.20m.com/earth garden/
[07:26] <freax> damn that dont work
[07:26] <freax> http://freax.20m.com/earth_garden/
[07:28] <Zetapal_Away> freax why don't you come over to psd ?
[07:29] <Zetapal_Away> me and tied are rappin
[07:29] <freax> cause ill be banned from there
[07:29] <Zetapal_Away> by who ?
[07:29] <freax> queenvee
[07:29] <z> queenvee is a hottie.. not like you freax
[07:29] <freax> if she arrives
[07:30] <Zetapal_Away> fuck her
[07:30] <tied2> lmao
[07:30] <Zetapal_Away> come on over
[07:30] <Zetapal_Away> me and tied are in charge - your aces
[07:30] <tied2> lol
[07:30] <Zetapal_Away> :)
[07:31] <Zetapal_Away> you too z
[07:32] * Zetapal_Away is now known as Zetapal
[07:44] <freax> you should be ashamed of yourselves
[07:44] <freax> =D
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[07:48] <freax> http://freax.20m.com/earth_garden/ <==updated
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[07:49] <freax> http://freax.20m.com/earth_garden/ <==updated
[07:49] <tied2> here ya go freax a great survival site http://dnausers.d-n-a.net/prepared/files.html
[07:50] <freax> the earth_garden magazine shows some pretty good stuff too
[07:50] <freax> aswell as 20 or so mags that i havent uploaded yet
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[07:54] <freax> told ya so
[07:57] <Zetapal> did she kick you freax or did you just duck out, I can't tell?
[07:58] <freax> fuck if i know
[07:59] <freax> think i left
[08:04] <freax> you know spirit of the moment thing
[08:05] <freax> i found my 18th century model boats on the lawn though
[08:05] <freax> so god knows what happened =D
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[08:05] <freax> whoever invented the analog modem sucks
[08:16] * freax puts on his large mutant cockeroach combat suit and goes to kill off some
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[08:30] <freax> like the sands through the hourglass, these are the days of our lives
[08:39] <freax> damn the soundblaster 32 pnp sounds good =D
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[08:43] <Pauli29> freax?
[08:43] <z> rumour has it freax is not as sexy as 'you' are Pauli29 *licksnkissesnhumpsPauli29*
[08:43] <freax> pauli?
[08:43] <Pauli29>  you know it BaBy
[08:44] <freax> yah
[08:44] <Pauli29> freax? - did you ban me?
[08:44] <freax> http://freax.20m.com/earth_garden/
[08:44] <freax> from where!?
[08:44] <freax> no
[08:44] <freax> i havent banned anyone in a month
[08:44] <Pauli29> from Funnet? who would have the power to keep me out of funnet?
[08:45] <freax> rofl
[08:45] <freax> no =D
[08:45] <Pauli29> funny?
[08:45] <freax> wish i did though
[08:45] <freax> ither jurian, juditness and someone else could do that
[08:45] <freax> unless you used an ident that was banned
[08:45] <Pauli29> of course not
[08:45] <Pauli29> unless someone banned me
[08:46] <freax> damn this sb32pnp rocks!!
[08:46] <freax> mmm
[08:46] <freax> talk to them
[08:46] <freax> i have no authority like that!
[08:47] <Pauli29> ok. I have my own plans, which dont include any of this
[08:48] <freax> dont include anything of what?
[08:48] <freax> i remeber just a few days ago i was klined from this server
[08:49] <freax> it was because of a ban on a particular ident from another user of my isp
[08:49] <freax> then the spammer came back (changing his ident) and spammed again
[08:49] <freax> then the k-line spread to my entire isp range, knocking me out too
[08:50] <freax> if you were banned, you could have been using the ident: root , or anything containing root in the ident string
[08:50] <freax> because root@somewhere.com is always banned
[08:50] <freax> or you could have used a particular ident that was banned or has been banned recently
[08:50] <freax> you're here now
[08:50] <freax> and nothing is happening, so you should be ok
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[08:52] * freax listens to enigma - sadness through the sweet seromantic sounds of his creative sound blaster 32 PnP
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[08:52] <freax> i feel like an audio virgin with this card
[08:52] <miguel> hello
[08:52] <freax> greetings and salutations
[08:54] <freax> i smell like rubber
[08:56] <freax> miguel: http://freax.20m.com/earth_garden/
[08:57] <miguel> freak: what is that?
[08:57] <z> i guess that is just plain crap.. that Bush is a shapeshifter etc
[08:58] <freax> earth garden magazine
[08:58] <freax> has some info on it
[08:59] <miguel> freak: about crops for the aftertime?
[08:59] <freax> hehe, no
[08:59] <freax> about general stuff
[08:59] <freax> load image 1 to see what its about
[09:00] <miguel> freak: is that you in image 1?
[09:00] <freax> roflmao
[09:00] <freax> no
[09:01] <miguel> Ok
[09:05] <freax> that would be weird wouldnt it
[09:05] <miguel> freak: why?
[09:06] <freax> well considering i was only 9 at that time
[09:06] <freax> that the magazine was published
[09:08] <miguel> freak: i see, it would be weird indeed
[09:08] <freax> quite *grins* =D
[09:12] <freax> so what you doing?
[09:16] <miguel> freak: i am sorry, i was in #psd
[09:16] <miguel> what am i doing?
[09:16] <miguel> i am correcting tests?
[09:20] <freax> i see
[09:24] <freax> when is the next nancy leider zeta talk?
[09:25] <freax>  dont tell me they've shut down my website
[09:26] <freax> i think they have
[09:26] <freax> damitt
[09:27] <freax> i uploaded too much so they gutted my site
[09:40] <freax> JurAFK: used to have one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2077172342
[09:40] <freax> JurAFK: the monitor was sooo cool
[09:42] <freax> greenscreen though
[09:42] <freax> cant believe i forgot about it
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[10:05] <miguel-work> must do some work, see you
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[10:38] * freax slaps monk over the face with a domestic yellow rubber glove
[10:38] <freax> now we both smell like rubber *grins*
[10:39] <monk> ewww
[10:40] <freax> teehee
[10:42] <freax> wat you doing
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[10:55] <monk> chillin
[10:55] <freax> yah
[10:55] <freax> who with?
[10:55] <z> i guess with is the closest definition i could find sirgrim
[10:58] <monk> chillin by myself
[10:58] <freax> I SEE
[10:58] <freax> damn caps
[10:59] <freax> anyone else but yourself?
[11:00] <monk> the tv and my computer
[11:01] <freax> and me
[11:01] <monk> and gonna smoke a ciggerate just spent my hyperiums
[11:01] <freax> you got me
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[11:02] <freax> mmm
[11:02] <freax> im gonna go spend my hyperiums too
[11:02] <monk> someones fucking with my shit someone blockaded a trading partner
[11:03] <freax> heh
[11:03] <freax> funky
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[11:59] <Himitsu> freax: you still awake?
[11:59] <monk> hi himitsu
[12:00] <Himitsu> oh hey!
[12:00] * QueenVee is now known as Queen-away
[12:00] <Himitsu> how are you doing Monk
[12:02] <monk> good
[12:03] <Himitsu> well, I am sleepy, so I think I am going to bed
[12:03] <Himitsu> so goodnight
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[12:04] * Himitsu is now known as Himits-away
[12:05] <BoY> achoo
[12:07] <freax> *cough*
[12:07] <freax> cold here
[12:07] <BoY> virus here
[12:08] <BoY> flu
[12:08] <freax> throat irritation
[12:08] <freax> too much coke
[12:08] <freax> and its cold
[12:08] <freax> as in freezing
[12:08] <BoY> well add more cola to it
[12:10] <freax> meh
[12:11] <freax> that or a heater
[12:12] <BoY> r u wearing wool
[12:12] <freax> cotton
[12:12] <freax> no wool
[12:12] <BoY> wool is warm cotton is not
[12:13] <freax> not in anything work
[12:13] <freax> warm
[12:13] <freax> rather
[12:14] <monk> where do u live
[12:14] <freax> sydney
[12:14] <BoY> u oughta be warm with all the fire there
[12:14] <freax> nah, thats far away
[12:15] <freax> im in the north
[12:15] <freax> too bad heat dont travel up the earth huh
[12:15] <BoY> u know where ivory rock is
[12:15] <freax> no
[12:15] <freax> blue mountains?
[12:17] <BoY> close to Brisbane
[12:17] <freax> been to brisbane for a visit
[12:17] <BoY> yeah
[12:18] <freax> stayed there for a few days
[12:18] <BoY> week or 2
[12:18] <freax> howd you know?
[12:18] <BoY> um a wild guess
[12:18] <BoY> :)
[12:18] <freax> uhuh
[12:20] <freax> :-)
[12:23] <freax> jurian you ass
[12:23] <freax> my planet is being attacked!
[12:23] <JurAFK> now what?
[12:23] <z> well, now is the time to do some arson
[12:23] <JurAFK> and.. how does that make me an ass?
[12:23] <freax> it dosent
[12:23] <freax> Enemy space AvgP:  . . . 103030
[12:23] <freax> Ground AvgP:  . . (own: 5880, friendly: 9600)
[12:23] <freax> Enemy ground AvgP:  . . . 108000
[12:23] <JurAFK> what planet?
[12:23] <z> i heard planet was going down the political toilet with or without ZT
[12:23] <freax> on ricky
[12:24] <freax> Scouts - - - - 1803
[12:24] <freax> Ground Armies - 11 8 20 300
[12:24] <JurAFK> heh, I'm like.. 3 days travel away from that :p
[12:24] <freax> enemy is 1803 scouts
[12:24] <freax> mmm
[12:24] <freax> hyperiums has teleported troops there but its being lost
[12:24] <JurAFK> they'll port more :p
[12:25] <freax> 002-12-06 20:41:11 Stasis field has been enabled on planet K2SnoWBoarDiNg.
[12:25] <freax>  2002-12-06 20:35:47 Hyperiums teleported 20 armies in emergency to planet Ricky.
[12:25] <freax>  2002-12-06 20:35:47 300 camouflaged armies dropped to planet Ricky
[12:25] <freax>  2002-12-06 18:53:03 A camouflaged fleet, coming from planet FallenAngel, has appeared near planet Ricky. Race: Azterk Composition: 87 destroyers, 0 cruisers, 1803 scouts, 0 bombers.
[12:25] <freax>  2002-12-06 18:53:03 A battle has started on planet Ricky.
[12:25] <JurAFK> camo.. how gay
[12:25] <freax> mmm
[12:25] <freax> 20!
[12:25] <freax> 20 fucking armies
[12:25] <freax> 20 lousy armys
[12:26] <freax> the health of the planet is at 17% and falling
[12:26] <freax> ooh : 2002-12-06 21:25:43 Player Jurian teleported 30 armies to planet Ricky.
[12:26] <freax> thanks
[12:26] <freax> =D
[12:26] <JurAFK> np :p
[12:26] <JurAFK> more coming :p
[12:27] <monk> big timers
[12:27] <freax> cant believe it too
[12:27] <freax> i fucking put a wad of cash into that planet
[12:27] <JurAFK> 300 is a bit too much to take on for me tho :/
[12:27] <monk> I only have 2 armies
[12:27] <freax> and now look what the fuck has happened
[12:28] <JurAFK> hyperiums should port more
[12:29] <freax> ive got plenty of armys on that other planet
[12:29] <freax> but no teleportation power =P
[12:29] <JurAFK> lol
[12:29] <freax> jeez another 40?
[12:29] <freax> =P
[12:29] <freax> Ground AvgP:  . . . . . . . . . (own: 6960, friendly: 40080)
[12:29] <freax> mmm, groovy
[12:29] <freax> =P
[12:30] <freax> Enemy ground AvgP:  . . . 108000
[12:30] <freax> Enemy space AvgP:  . . . 103030
[12:30] <JurAFK> argh
[12:30] <freax> he's still got a fuckload in space
[12:30] <freax> i wont win this
[12:30] <freax> =<
[12:30] <freax> ricky was like raking in 5.7mil a day
[12:31] <freax> and i just spent 5mil on production
[12:31] * JurAFK looks for more armies to port
[12:31] <freax> so it was gonna be like 7-8mil next time
[12:31] <freax> hehe
[12:31] <freax> fuck
[12:32] <freax> im back to 675000 a day
[12:32] <freax> Total income 2625376
[12:32] <freax> . Fleets & armies upkeep cost -1950000
[12:32] <freax> . Daily profit
[12:32] <freax> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12:32] <freax> 675376
[12:32] <JurAFK> you applied to be a polr member yet?
[12:32] <freax> a what now?
[12:32] <JurAFK> join alliance polr
[12:32] <freax> (own: 6960, friendly: 49200)
[12:33] <freax> i thought i did
[12:33] <freax> narf
[12:33] <JurAFK> The following units will be teleported:
[12:33] <JurAFK> 30 Xillor armies
[12:33] <JurAFK>  
[12:33] <JurAFK> :D
[12:33] <JurAFK> were you accepted?
[12:33] <freax> polr-rookies?
[12:34] <freax> i thought i did on that other planet
[12:34] <JurAFK> yah
[12:34] <freax> but apparently i didnt on ricky
[12:34] <JurAFK> do so on ricky as well
[12:34] <freax> i have
[12:34] <JurAFK> and make sure to set the tag to public
[12:34] <freax> sent request then
[12:34] <freax> (own: 6960, friendly: 56400)
[12:35] <JurAFK> I'm out of teleport energy, and xillor armies :p
[12:35] <freax> mmm
[12:35] <freax> =P
[12:35] <freax> thanks
[12:35] <freax> this is highly annoying
[12:36] <JurAFK> hyperiums had better port in a shitload of armies :p
[12:36] <freax> quite
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[12:36] <JurAFK> good thing is, he's camo'd, so his armies are only at 50% strength
[12:36] <freax> do they have a limit on how many they can send?
[12:36] <freax> hehe
[12:36] <freax> good
[12:36] <freax> but i camoed
[12:36] <freax> shit
[12:36] <freax> turn it off!?
[12:36] <JurAFK> yeah
[12:36] <JurAFK> dont use camo
[12:37] <freax> camo off
[12:37] <freax> camoflauge rather
[12:37] * obaway is now known as obany
[12:37] <freax> camouflage
[12:37] <JurAFK> :)
[12:39] <freax> so
[12:39] <freax> FallenAngel had better watch its arse in future
[12:39] * Queen-away is now known as QueenVee
[12:39] <freax> friggen 20 armies
[12:39] <freax> peh
[12:40] <JurAFK> lol
[12:40] <JurAFK> I lost my 2nd planet like this :p
[12:40] <freax> mmm
[12:40] <freax> how many did hyperiums send?
[12:41] <JurAFK> not enough :p
[12:41] <JurAFK> but the lamer dropped 10000 armies
[12:41] <JurAFK> just before the battletick
[12:41] <JurAFK> so I just ported everything away that I could
[12:41] <freax> mm
[12:42] <freax> why cant we all, get along
[12:42] <JurAFK> was before the soft reset.. fleets of several million scouts, and 10000's of destroyers, were quite normal :p
[12:42] <JurAFK> cause its a wargame? :p
[12:42] <freax> mmm
[12:43] <JurAFK> back in a few, gonna kill the toilet duck
[12:43] <freax> hehe
[12:45] <freax> then if camoflauge is so camouflagic why does it exist?
[12:46] <freax> shouldnt it improve the soldier ability to attack?
[12:46] <freax> instead of making it a mere 50% weaker?
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[12:53] <freax> the next payclick is in an hour, want to send some cash over so i can make a fuckload of armies on ricky?
[12:53] <freax> "if i can"
[12:53] <freax> that is
[12:54] <freax> yep i can, 100% build capacity
[12:56] <JurAFK> heh, camo hides the owner name of the armies, not the armies themselves :p
[12:56] <freax> ahh i see
[12:56] <freax> then why does it reduce ability by 50%? loss in pride eh?
[12:59] <JurAFK> no, -50% cause they're taking care not to reveal who owns them :p
[12:59] <freax> hehehe
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[13:04] <freax> hey mon
[13:04] <raincity> wow, obany was right.
[13:05] <raincity> That guy sapphire must be a real asshole...obsessed asshole.
[13:05] <raincity> Putting people's personal info on his site.
[13:05] <raincity> Like he is "outing" them or something.
[13:06] <JurAFK> heh, he's a little kiddie with too much time on his hands
[13:06] <raincity> Maybe someone can bring legal action.
[13:06] <JurAFK> someone should go beat him up or something
[13:06] <freax> roflmao
[13:06] <raincity> But, there isn't that much time left anyhow.
[13:06] <raincity> Earthquake activity is increasing, big time.
[13:07] <freax> @!@!@!
[13:07] <freax> no its ont
[13:07] <raincity> It's obvious the USGS is under-reporting.
[13:07] <freax> can you proove that?
[13:08] <freax> ill take that as a no chance in hell
[13:08] <raincity> There are a number of sites which list earthquakes the USGS doesn't show.
[13:09] <freax> and are you going to group and collate these websites and define your proof?
[13:09] <raincity> hardly, I don't have the time to do that.
[13:09] <freax> then dont make that kind of statement
[13:09] <raincity> Queenvee has been keeping an eye on it.
[13:09] <freax> oh how convenient
[13:10] <freax> dont redirect me, shut the fuck up or proove it
[13:10] <raincity> proof is beyond my current abilities.
[13:11] <freax> i know it is
[13:11] <freax> you just prooved that
[13:12] <raincity> ok, it is obvious you are hostile to the zeta information.
[13:12] <freax> it isnt zetan information
[13:12] <freax> its your personal opinion, quite a serious one
[13:12] <freax> dont force my hand on the blacklist fucker
[13:13] <monk> lol
[13:13] <raincity> ok.
[13:13] <raincity> my apologies.
[13:17] <freax> bbs
[13:21] <raincity> You people think it is right to put personal info on the web...against people's wishes?
[13:21] <raincity> I can't condone that.
[13:23] <freax> you people?
[13:23] <freax> you mean one person
[13:23] <raincity> debunkers in general.
[13:23] <freax> i dont own that site, nor does anyone else here, afaik
[13:24] <freax> this is bullshit
[13:24] <freax> if the group of nancy leider believers were really intent on giving out information and informing us all then why are they classifying us as debunkers?
[13:24] <monk> yea
[13:24] <freax> isnt that hostility towards the same people they're trying to inform?
[13:25] <freax> why dont they throw the FACT book at them
[13:25] <freax> i dont condone nor do i know of people who avoid a question
[13:25] <freax> however
[13:26] <freax> anyone who rules out another person the same fucking people they're trying to tell all of this information towards are liers
[13:27] <freax> are = are all liers
[13:27] <freax> no
[13:27] <freax> are is relevant
[13:29] <freax> ive gotta go, catch you all tomorrow
[13:29] <freax> *gone*
[13:29] <raincity> later.
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[13:29] <raincity> He seemed a little hostile.
[13:30] <QueenVee> lol
[13:30] <raincity> I was just trying to get a feel for the "extreme" positions many here are taking.
[13:30] <raincity> No harm intended.
[13:31] <QueenVee> well,these are not rational people
[13:32] <raincity> Some are obviously not.
[13:32] <raincity> The point of this channel is supposed to be the exchange of information.
[13:32] <raincity> I don't understand the hostility.
[13:33] <QueenVee> yeah, i used to try and figure it out to; then just formed another channel instead.....
[13:33] <raincity> right.
[13:34] <raincity> I'll stick around here and see if any good can come of this.
[13:34] <QueenVee> one doesn't react with such hostility to something you genuinely believe is nonsense... so i think it's just a fear reaction
[13:35] <QueenVee> shooting the messenger
[13:35] <raincity> A form of denial, perhaps.
[13:35] <QueenVee> nothing else explains it
[13:40] <raincity> bbl
[14:10] <Jeremy> nie talking, see you later
[14:10] <Jeremy> nice
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[14:50] <obany> okay back, i watched dragonfly
[14:51] <obany> on dvd
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[15:18] <Guest> Hi, obany
[15:18] <Guest> Big power outage here in Rotterdam
[15:19] * Looking up Guest user info...
[15:19] <obany> i know nol i know
[15:19] <obany> happened this morning
[15:19] <Guest> oh , not sleeping..hehe
[15:19] <obany> just be carefull nol, Jurian might spot you
[15:19] <Guest> oh fun
[15:19] <Guest> Jurian?
[15:19] <z> it has been said that Jurian is gonna be pissed
[15:20] <obany> !kick guest you see
[15:20] <Guest> Oh , Jurian is not completely in harmony..
[15:20] <Guest> i think
[15:20] <Guest> He is a nice boy ...but ..tooo
[15:21] <obany> !kick guest you see
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[15:22] <Guest> heh?
[15:22] <obany> wb guest, and change your nick please
[15:22] <Guest> ok
[15:22] <obany> use /nick Nol
[15:22] <obany> :)
[15:22] * Guest is now known as Nol
[15:23] <Nol> :-)
[15:23] <monk> :)
[15:23] <Nol> hi
[15:23] <monk> Hi No1
[15:23] <Nol> No it is Nol
[15:23] <Nol> hehe :-
[15:23] <Nol> )
[15:23] <monk> Nol
[15:23] <monk> not no1
[15:23] <Nol> yep i yo
[15:24] <Nol> funny thx monk
[15:25] <Nol> Saw today a lot of Atlantis stuff
[15:25] <Nol> on discoverry cvhannel
[15:25] <Nol> channel
[15:25] <monk> really
[15:25] <Nol> What just was ...going into my mind...
[15:26] <Nol> that ...it was ..not necassary  to see a ufo ...or such ..to believe
[15:26] <monk> u must be psyhic
[15:26] <Nol> in more..aka px
[15:26] <Nol> lol!
[15:27] <monk> wow
[15:27] <Nol> That discoverry channel grows in it own stuff..
[15:27] <monk> intresting
[15:27] <Nol> do you know what i mean ?
[15:27] <monk> sure
[15:27] <Nol> Oh they are today really good ...in reporting in a compact way..
[15:28] <Nol> that's for sure..
[15:28] <Nol> This irc applet works terrific..!!
[15:28] <monk> I like the spanish discovery
[15:28] <Nol> Verry good for jumping in people..?
[15:29] <monk> jump yourself fool
[15:29] <Nol> oh , yeah could
[15:29] <monk> just hit yourself a couple times and throw yourself off the roof
[15:30] <monk> it'll be fun
[15:30] <Nol> i love you monk ..you know that..
[15:30] <monk> I love you too
[15:30] <Nol> i know
[15:30] <monk> I love all my brothers and sisters
[15:30] <Nol> :-) Nol hugs monk
[15:31] <Nol> You are the guy we are depending on..
[15:31] <Nol> in certain way..of course...
[15:31] <monk> I wouldn't be waiting on me though
[15:32] <Nol> No ..but people around you feel good ,,because ...
[15:32] <monk> because...
[15:32] <Nol> you are not dominant..about things ...understand?
[15:32] <monk> not really
[15:33] <Nol> not really ...you said and that is the proof
[15:33] <monk> my aura must be positive
[15:34] <Nol> it is ..
[15:34] <Nol> You are one of the us ..you know?
[15:34] <monk> one in all yes
[15:34] <Nol> fun!
[15:35] <monk> yes fun
[15:35] <Nol> But anyway...
[15:35] <monk> hows the weather
[15:35] <Nol> I JUST FEEL
[15:35] <Nol> YOU  are verry against society..
[15:35] <Nol> and then it is ok...
[15:36] <monk> sure i am
[15:36] <Nol> for me...so to speak..
[15:36] <Nol> I always prefered monk in this channel..
[15:36] <monk> why thank you
[15:37] <Nol> should be more focus on your ..
[15:37] <Nol> perhaps ..book?
[15:37] <monk> I never wrote a book
[15:37] <Nol> oh
[15:37] <monk> I wrote some short stories in school but thats all
[15:38] <Nol> oh ...but it is in your inside to help..
[15:38] <Nol> to tell people ..help
[15:38] <monk> help abnout what
[15:38] <Nol> i think /feel
[15:38] <Nol> not much ..but you do it
[15:39] <monk> I try to be open
[15:39] <Nol> you help all the time because you are a nice boy
[15:40] <monk> I always been a nice person
[15:40] <Nol> even is the sun of NancyL .. I THINK
[15:40] <monk> what does that mean ?
[15:40] <Nol> I saw him..on a photo last time..so..
[15:41] <Nol> Just some feelings that is all...
[15:41] <monk> what kinda feelings?
[15:41] <Nol> I like monk ...
[15:41] <Nol> that what it is...
[15:42] <Nol> That is also for Juditness
[15:42] <Nol> i Like here
[15:42] <monk> shes too friendly sometimes
[15:42] <Nol> Yes and No
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[15:42] <monk> :)
[15:42] <monk> hello lexar
[15:42] <Nol> :-)
[15:42] <LeXar> hello
[15:43] <Nol> hi
[15:43] <LeXar> I've waited so long for a channel of communication with fellow comrades :)
[15:43] <LeXar> Hor are all of you?
[15:43] <monk> comarades?
[15:43] <LeXar> How
[15:43] <LeXar> a manner of speech
[15:43] <monk> well welcome
[15:44] <monk> to troubled_times
[15:44] <monk> hope you enjoy the stay
[15:44] <LeXar> I will, don't worry
[15:44] <monk> so lexar why are you here ?
[15:45] <monk> what you wanna talk about
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[15:45] <LeXar> Well it all started when one of my (now) good friends told me about zetatalk.com...
[15:45] <monk> oh really ?
[15:45] <monk> you believe in zetatalk ?
[15:46] <LeXar> that being several months ago... now we are preparing for a possible nightmare on Earth.. with very few ressources
[15:46] <LeXar> of course!
[15:46] <obany> hi Lexar
[15:46] <LeXar>      We are undergoing a project of survival... but it's hard to do so without the proper funds
[15:46] <monk> maybe you should check out #poleshiftdiscussion
[15:47] <LeXar> is this channel related to zetatalk?
[15:47] <obany> Yes it is
[15:47] <LeXar> good
[15:47] <Nol> obany ..also on here now..
[15:47] <LeXar> I'm originally from the US... I live in Quebec city now
[15:48] <Nol> oh
[15:48] <Nol> nice live at the moment?
[15:48] <monk> I live in california usa
[15:49] <Nol> I live in Rotterdam
[15:49] <monk> in holland?
[15:49] <Nol> yep
[15:49] <monk> you smoke weed?
[15:49] <Nol> no
[15:49] <LeXar> to whom your saying that to?
[15:50] <monk> I dont smoke it
[15:50] <monk> but i like the plant
[15:50] <monk> It had a intresting flavor to it
[15:50] <Nol> It is a funny plant..wtih all the media...
[15:51] <monk> Cheech and Chong
[15:51] <Nol> attention..but not that much intresting
[15:52] <Nol> But what i was telling..
[15:52] <Nol> It was teh idea of..
[15:52] <Nol> The Discovery Channel
[15:53] <Nol> That   the information..is amount about old cultures..
[15:53] <monk> a program on home furniture is on not that intresting
[15:53] <Nol> ;-)
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[15:53] <Nol> Not well undertood ..but i see
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[15:54] <Nol> what they are telling..a nd pehaps monk also
[15:54] <Nol> hi, scooby
[15:54] <monk> I changed the channel fast
[15:54] <Nol> Obany i ga zo slapen ...zo ..slaapse
[15:54] <Nol> ik
[15:55] <obany> mzzls nol en slaapze
[15:55] <Nol> ok
[15:55] <Nol> Bye monk.... i am going to sleep
[15:55] <monk> good night
[15:55] <monk> sweet dreams
[15:55] <Nol> good night ... and i do a little pray for you allright?
[15:56] <LeXar> bye, I'll be back an other time I'm a litle busy
[15:56] <LeXar> thank, byw
[15:56] <Nol> bye LeXar
[15:56] <monk> thank you
[15:56] <monk> bye
[15:57] <Nol> OKIDOK...BYE
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[15:59] <scooby1> hey
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[16:01] <monk> hi
[16:01] <z> niihau, monk
[16:01] <monk> z niihau
[16:01] <z> hola, monk
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[16:07] * obany going now, to bed that is... bye bye
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[16:24] <ringer> http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/index.php
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[16:30] <scooby1> who was that?
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[16:33] <LeXar> Hello
[16:33] <z> niihau, LeXar
[16:34] <LeXar> an other form of "hi"?
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[18:30] <bJesus> check this out:
[18:30] <bJesus> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20021206/ap_on_re_us/obit_wallace_2
[18:30] <bJesus> according to this, bigfoot was a hoax
[18:30] <bJesus> nancy says that we can't communicate with bigfoot because the council of worlds won't let us or something
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[19:11] <scooby1> that bigfoot was a hoax.  There is no proof that there isn't another one...
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[19:26] <Himitsu> hi SC
[19:27] <ShadowCow> Hiya
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[19:30] <PoleShifter> z, hi
[19:30] <z> hey, PoleShifter
[19:30] <PoleShifter> z, whats up?
[19:30] <z> i haven't a clue, poleshifter
[19:30] <Himitsu> lol
[19:30] <PoleShifter> :)
[19:30] <PoleShifter> at least i got a friend... :-)
[19:30] <PoleShifter> z, your my friend
[19:30] <z> PoleShifter: excuse me?
[19:30] <PoleShifter> :(
[19:31] <Himitsu> z 346537643 times 244362
[19:31] <z> 84680631518766
[19:31] <Himitsu> z is pretty smart
[19:32] <PoleShifter> z is poleshifter friend
[19:32] <PoleShifter> yeah
[19:32] <PoleShifter> 33333 log 2 exp 5
[19:32] <z> 33482.1063062831
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[19:45] <PoleShifter> cant wait to read about the Rendlesham this weekend..
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[19:58] <PoleShifter> z, tell hi monk
[19:58] <z> PoleShifter: excuse me?
[19:58] <PoleShifter> z, hi monk
[19:58] <z> PoleShifter: sorry...
[19:58] <PoleShifter> z, who is your friend?
[19:58] <z> no idea, poleshifter
[19:59] <PoleShifter> z, who is poleshifter friend?
[19:59] <z> i don't know, poleshifter
[19:59] <PoleShifter> damn roboto :P
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[20:14] <PoleShifter> The bizarre sighting, which occurred near RAF Woodbridge in eastern England in the early hours of December 27, 1980, is detailed in the government's restricted "Rendlesham File."
[20:14] <PoleShifter> The incident is widely regarded as one of the most significant UFO sightings -- the British equivalent of the 1947 incident in which a spacecraft supposedly crashed at Roswell, New Mexico, with aliens aboard.
[20:19] <[3j]> you can read the file online i heard
[20:19] <[3j]> dunno the URL though
[20:20] <monk> http://radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Santeeducation/nouvelles/200211/29/001-ovnis.asp
[20:20] <[3j]> thats french monk
[20:20] <monk> well dont u know french ?
[20:20] <[3j]> yes
[20:21] <monk> then why u triping
[20:21] <[3j]> i didnt think you did though :)
[20:21] <[3j]> triping!@#@
[20:21] <monk> I dont
[20:21] <monk> :)
[20:21] <[3j]> hehe
[20:21] <[3j]> thanks for the link
[20:21] <[3j]> but basically its just a news article about it
[20:21] <monk> poleshifter gave me a french link
[20:21] <[3j]> oh
[20:21] <[3j]> it has a link to the brit site :)
[20:22] <[3j]> cool hehe
[20:22] <PoleShifter> yep
[20:22] <PoleShifter> hehe
[20:22] <PoleShifter> :)
[20:22] <PoleShifter> but
[20:22] <PoleShifter> i couldnt find it on the mod.uk web site
[20:22] <PoleShifter> if you find it tell me
[20:24] <[3j]> go to http://www.foi.mod.uk/search.asp
[20:24] <[3j]> type in http://www.foi.mod.uk/search.asp
[20:24] <[3j]> er
[20:24] <[3j]> type in Rendlesham
[20:24] <[3j]> finds 5 pdfs
[20:24] <[3j]> part 1 to 5 ;)
[20:26] <PoleShifter> ok cool
[20:26] <PoleShifter> excellent got them
[20:28] <PoleShifter> ahaha
[20:28] <PoleShifter> they scan all the manuscrit
[20:40] <[3j]> not much i dont like
[20:40] <[3j]> except country
[20:40] <[3j]> some exceptions though PoleShifter
[20:40] <[3j]> and dont notice me plz :P
[20:40] <PoleShifter> lol
[20:40] <PoleShifter> yeah i'm not a country fan too
[20:40] <PoleShifter> you like ambient music ?
[20:40] <[3j]> sure
[20:40] <PoleShifter> k
[20:41] <[3j]> what is ambient music anyway
[20:41] <[3j]> 30kb :(
[20:41] <[3j]> 30kb / s
[20:41] <[3j]> hehe
[20:42] <PoleShifter> hmm
[20:42] <[3j]> kick the network card!
[20:42] <[3j]> i can do 2x that
[20:42] <PoleShifter> how much where you getting monk?
[20:42] <monk> like 100k at first
[20:42] <monk> now 26.8k
[20:42] <PoleShifter> lol
[20:46] <[3j]> what kind of music is it
[20:46] <PoleShifter> ambient
[20:46] <[3j]> ok..
[20:46] <[3j]> no idea what that is
[20:47] <PoleShifter> do you know sigur ross?
[20:47] <[3j]> no
[20:47] <PoleShifter> oh hes the big master...
[20:47] <PoleShifter> lol
[20:47] <PoleShifter> anyway this kind of music is kind of different
[20:47] <[3j]> is it new age music
[20:48] <PoleShifter> if your only into pop music you wont like it
[20:48] <PoleShifter> not really
[20:48] <[3j]> hehe
[20:48] <[3j]> trying to understand what ambient music is :)
[20:48] <[3j]> many different sounds can be considered ambien
[20:48] <[3j]> ambient
[20:48] <PoleShifter> hehehe yeah
[20:49] <PoleShifter> well this song is not bad really i like it
[20:49] <PoleShifter> its not in the "best" but its good
[20:49] <PoleShifter> just a little long althought, but if you listen carefully you like it
[20:49] <[3j]> ill tell you what i think in a bit
[20:52] <[3j]> ahh
[20:52] <[3j]> cool :)
[20:52] <[3j]> thanks for letting me get it
[20:52] <PoleShifter> np
[20:52] <PoleShifter> :)
[20:52] <bJesus> "sigur ros" is a band...not a person named "sigur ross"
[20:52] <[3j]> you got more?
[20:52] <[3j]> like the whole album maybe?
[20:53] <PoleShifter> 3j: i can give you a sigur ross song if you want
[20:53] <PoleShifter> 3j: sorry i dont have her album :/
[20:53] <bJesus> ROS
[20:53] <monk> I want a sigur ross to
[20:53] <bJesus> NOT ROSS
[20:53] <[3j]> WEL
[20:53] <PoleShifter> bJ: sorry :p
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[20:53] <PoleShifter> lol
[20:53] <[3j]> ROSWEL!
[20:53] <[3j]> CAPS
[20:53] <[3j]> LOCKED!
[20:53] <Mr_Odd> hi steve :)
[20:53] <SteveD> Hi first time here
[20:53] <[3j]> hi
[20:53] <PoleShifter> bJ: actually its Sigur Rós
[20:53] <bJesus> no, it's sigur rosss
[20:54] <[3j]> is steve your friend mr odd
[20:54] <[3j]> if not i have to eat his liver
[20:54] <Mr_Odd> no, it's sugar roshashona
[20:54] <Mr_Odd> uhhhh... yes
[20:54] <PoleShifter> bJ: do you like the album () ?
[20:54] <Mr_Odd> he's my BEST friend
[20:54] <Mr_Odd> and he's a heavy drinker
[20:54] <[3j]> oh okay :(
[20:54] <SteveD> Found this through the Zeta site actually
[20:54] <Mr_Odd> so his liver is all stringy
[20:54] <[3j]> haha welcome to the club
[20:54] <bJesus> haven't had a full chance to listen to the album, PS
[20:54] <monk> welcome to the freak club
[20:54] <PoleShifter> k
[20:54] <PoleShifter> hehehe steve so what is your first impression?
[20:55] <SteveD> I've been sober for just over 18 months too :)
[20:55] <SteveD> first impression of what?
[20:55] <PoleShifter> well
[20:55] <PoleShifter> of all this zatas stuff
[20:55] <SteveD> The Zeta stuff, pole shift, or et all
[20:55] <PoleShifter> zetas
[20:55] <SteveD> It's possible.
[20:56] <SteveD> I'm open minded.  I think we are all here for a higher purpose.
[20:56] <[3j]> it wont happen like the site says though
[20:57] <[3j]> zetatalk.com has had its chance to validate itself and it failed
[20:57] <SteveD> I am not convinced, but to think we are the only life force in the world would be a bit of ego.
[20:57] <SteveD> The polar shif t is something that occurs.  Magneticlly at least.
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[20:58] <PoleShifter> ok hold on i'm gonna give you access to 2 songs
[20:58] <SteveD> That was more strange that you knew I was heavy drinker.  LOL
[20:58] <[3j]> right thats different than the globe turning
[20:58] <Mr_Odd> poleshifter, you into ambient/IDM/braindance?
[20:58] <Mr_Odd> who are some of your favorite artists?
[20:59] <PoleShifter> mr_odd : i'm into almost everything... but i like a lot techno/trance , ambient, d&b ..
[21:00] <Mr_Odd> what kind of "ambient", heh
[21:00] <PoleShifter> mr_odd: can go from astral projection to ltj bukem .. lol
[21:00] <PoleShifter> i'm "open" :)
[21:00] <Mr_Odd> ah
[21:01] <Mr_Odd> you like aphex twin at all?
[21:01] <Mr_Odd> squarepusher, autechre, boards of canada..
[21:01] <[3j]> i need 5 million dollars
[21:02] <[3j]> anyone loan?
[21:02] <SteveD> no, but what for?
[21:02] <monk> loan me 5 million dollars and ill pay 50% intrest
[21:02] <monk> payments start 2012
[21:03] <monk> any takers?
[21:03] <[3j]> i need the 5 mil first
[21:03] <[3j]> i need it to buy stuff
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[21:04] <PoleShifter> Mr_odd: eh squarepusher, autechre.. your an old sk00l eh  :P
[21:04] <PoleShifter> hahaha
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[21:04] <Mr_Odd> :)
[21:04] <[3j]> PoleShifter, give me more
[21:04] <Mr_Odd> i'm also into the new guys
[21:04] <PoleShifter> coming
[21:05] <Mr_Odd> cex, global goon, venetian snares..
[21:05] <[3j]> cool, thanks
[21:05] <[3j]> brb
[21:06] <PoleShifter> ok
[21:06] <PoleShifter> just refresh the page , you'll get a zip with 2 songs in it..
[21:06] <PoleShifter> mr_odd: hmmm i dont know these groups
[21:07] <Mr_Odd> www.rjyan.com
[21:07] <Mr_Odd> that's cex's website
[21:07] <PoleShifter> autechre and squarepushers i was listening to it like 5-6 years ago.. was in my "first" time .. :)
[21:07] <Mr_Odd> and global goon and venetian snares can be found at www.warprecords.com
[21:07] <Mr_Odd> oh, you should check out squarepushers new stuff
[21:07] <Mr_Odd> he's put out some very good discs lately
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[21:07] <PoleShifter> aphex twin it depend of the songs..
[21:08] <Mr_Odd> go plastic, big loada, and do you know squarepusher are all excellent
[21:08] <PoleShifter> oh yeah%?
[21:08] <PoleShifter> nice..
[21:08] <PoleShifter> gonna look that thx
[21:08] <PoleShifter> do you like delirium?
[21:08] <Mr_Odd> you should get soulseek
[21:08] <Mr_Odd> it's a program to get hard-to-find electronica
[21:08] <Mr_Odd> www.slsk.org
[21:09] <Mr_Odd> and all sorts of other stuff, of course
[21:09] <PoleShifter> sweet
[21:09] <PoleShifter> :)
[21:10] <monk> kazaa is good too
[21:11] <PoleShifter> cool there is samples on gex
[21:11] <Mr_Odd> kazaa lite is, anyway
[21:11] <Mr_Odd> but it can't even come CLOSE to slsk for underground electronica or hip hop
[21:11] <PoleShifter> yeah kazaa is evil..
[21:11] <PoleShifter> yeah its hard to find GOOD music (aka not pop) on winMX and kazzaaL..
[21:11] <Mr_Odd> yeah that's what seperates soulseek from them :D
[21:12] <Mr_Odd> the people who use it have GREAT stuff
[21:12] <PoleShifter> what song do you recommend me for gex?
[21:12] <Mr_Odd> hmm
[21:12] <Mr_Odd> what are you into?
[21:12] <Mr_Odd> and who do you wanna hear first?
[21:12] <Mr_Odd> just off the top of my head, Cex - Academy Award is a great track
[21:12] <Mr_Odd> i dunno if it's your style tho
[21:13] <Mr_Odd> squarepusher - Port Rhombus
[21:13] <Mr_Odd> or squarepusher - Massif (Stay Strong)
[21:13] <Mr_Odd> or squarepusher - I Wish You Could Talk
[21:13] <Mr_Odd> or aphex twin - 54 cymru beats
[21:14] <PoleShifter> monk
[21:14] <PoleShifter> refresh my page
[21:14] <PoleShifter> i've had 2 songs
[21:14] <PoleShifter> in a zip
[21:16] <PoleShifter> hey this prog looks nice odd
[21:16] <Mr_Odd> it's great
[21:16] <Mr_Odd> i love it
[21:16] <Mr_Odd> i even donated $5 to the creator for it
[21:17] <PoleShifter> nice
[21:17] <PoleShifter> they have all the alien project albums
[21:17] <PoleShifter> :>
[21:17] <Mr_Odd> of course :D
[21:18] <Mr_Odd> you can find ANYTHING electronic on slsk
[21:18] <PoleShifter> that's great.. thx a lot..
[21:18] <PoleShifter> i have a big collections.. but i'm always open to new stuff :))))
[21:18] <[3j]> you even donated $5 !
[21:18] <[3j]> for maybe 100's worth of music :(
[21:18] <[3j]> your cheap :P
[21:19] <PoleShifter> and -peoples have good quality (i.e 192kbps)
[21:19] <PoleShifter> or 320
[21:19] <PoleShifter> i'm a little bit freak i like good quality when i get songs..
[21:19] <Mr_Odd> hey man, for my single donation there's 200,000 if not more people out there who havent put in a cent
[21:19] <[3j]> me too
[21:19] <PoleShifter> 3j: bahhh cmon :p
[21:19] <Mr_Odd> so shush
[21:19] <[3j]> hehe
[21:19] <[3j]> im just saying, it was the way you wrote it
[21:19] <[3j]> i donated 5 big dollars!
[21:19] <Mr_Odd> over 192 or even 160 is pretty much pointless
[21:19] <[3j]> heh
[21:19] <Mr_Odd> hehe
[21:20] <PoleShifter> well it depend..
[21:20] <[3j]> yeah, bigger than 192 the difference is hard to tell...
[21:20] <PoleShifter> sometimes i can see the difference
[21:20] <PoleShifter> but there is many factors..
[21:20] <[3j]> but i still prefer high bitrate
[21:20] <PoleShifter> 3j: i've encoded the sigur ros album in 320
[21:20] <PoleShifter> lol
[21:21] <[3j]> hehe
[21:21] <PoleShifter> songs are big but sounds good
[21:21] <[3j]> all the cds ive ripped were at 256
[21:21] <PoleShifter> yeah
[21:21] <[3j]> using audioripper, a good app for that
[21:21] <PoleShifter> the standard is between 192 and 320
[21:22] <[3j]> thats a wide range for a standard :P
[21:22] <PoleShifter> hehehehe
[21:22] <PoleShifter> well
[21:22] <PoleShifter> not really
[21:22] <[3j]> the mp3 scene standard is 192 i think
[21:22] <[3j]> you know those warezmp3 groups
[21:22] <PoleShifter> yeah
[21:22] <PoleShifter> if you g