Session Start: Sun Dec 15 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #Troubled_Times
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[02:40] <JurAFK> http://www.troubled-times.com/fits/ <-- Latest FITS files :D
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[03:03] <alex2221> what is this?
[03:03] <z> somebody said this was better then zetatalk
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[08:19] <obany> brb
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[08:22] <obany> hello
[08:23] <obany> brb
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[09:01] <SinthBaron> HI
[09:01] <z> hola, SinthBaron
[09:01] <obany> hi
[09:01] <z> salut, obany
[09:02] <obany> obany?
[09:02] <z> you are smarter than obany
[09:02] <SinthBaron> dammit, I keep forgetting about saturdays ;-)
[09:02] <obany> forget obany
[09:02] <z> obany: I forgot obany
[09:02] <obany> obany is smart
[09:02] <SinthBaron> who's obany?
[09:02] <z> obany is probably smart
[09:02] <obany> eheheheh :)
[09:03] <SinthBaron> obany is half smart
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[09:04] <obany> obany?
[09:04] <z> it has been said that obany is smart
[09:04] <obany> yeeeha
[09:04] <obany> goodboy z
[09:04] <obany> z
[09:04] <z> obany?
[09:04] <obany> z?
[09:04] <z> obany?
[09:04] <SinthBaron> eh?
[09:05] <SinthBaron> so how is OBAy NancY doing?
[09:06] <obany> i am just obany :)
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[09:16] <juditness> ..
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[09:37] <Howmo> Sup?
[09:38] <Howmo> Hey QV, how do you like all of those "swirling moons"?
[09:39] <Howmo> http://m1.aol.com/deepspacegirl/sumred.jpg
[09:39] <Howmo> There must be 50 groups of "moons" on that image!
[09:39] <Howmo> Which one is the right one?
[09:40] <Howmo> Oh, I know, it's the group next to the pixel defect that the "zetas" call PX.
[09:40] <Howmo> QueenVee.... cat got your tongue?
[09:41] <Howmo> Z, talk to me.
[09:41] <Howmo> z, hello.
[09:41] <Howmo> Oh no! Even Z, is mute!
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[10:05] <obany> hi butch
[10:06] <butch> hi obany
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[10:07] <obany> hi SteveH
[10:07] <SteveH> hello
[10:08] <obany> how's the research going on the pics?
[10:08] <SteveH> have you seen them yet?
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[10:08] <QueenVee> hey Steve!
[10:08] <SteveH> hi QueenVee :)
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[10:09] <SteveH> is Jurian afk?
[10:09] <obany> not sure ...
[10:09] <obany> SteveH: well i have to download them still those pictures... are they on the main server yet?
[10:09] <SteveH> everyone is having a hard time downloading the files, it's too slow
[10:10] <obany> or still in the yahoo briefcase
[10:10] <obany> yes i know
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[10:10] <SteveH> still in yahoo but hopefully on ZT server soon
[10:12] <obany> would be better yes
[10:13] <QueenVee> can't wait to see the jpgs and analysis
[10:15] <SteveH> there seems to be a lot of pressure on sci.astro for me to report this in to the astronomical institure
[10:17] <SteveH> I may report but I don't think it will accomplish anything but who knows
[10:19] <SteveH> I'm anxious for everyone to be able to see them first off
[10:19] <tied2> Steve that doesn't make a lot of sence..... maybe ulterior motives
[10:20] <QueenVee> SteveH: very interesting that they're starting to admit there's something there...
[10:21] <tied2> there probably just looking for another way to discredit
[10:22] <QueenVee> SteveH: surely if they are that anxious for it to be done, they can take their own pictures and submit them.....
[10:22] <SteveH> so you don't think it's worthwhile reporting?
[10:23] <SteveH> I just can't see anyway that they would announce anything about it
[10:24] <QueenVee> SteveH: if you'll recall, i urged you to report it ages ago -- so that's not what i'm saying at all
[10:24] <tied2> it might be asking for trouble
[10:24] <SteveH> to report it would be asking for trouble you're saying?
[10:24] <QueenVee> i was just responding to what tied said about "ulterior motives"....
[10:24] <QueenVee> NO, TO BE CLEAR: I think you SHOULD report it
[10:25] <QueenVee> hell, what kind of "trouble" could it attract that you haven't encountered already?
[10:25] <tied2> I think so Steve you might suddenly find yourself cut off
[10:25] <juditness> !users
[10:26] <tied2> there not going to announce it ...they already know it's there
[10:26] <SteveH> I know, they want me to get into their ballfield
[10:27] <QueenVee> SteveH: what about simply sending what you have to the astronomers who have been looking for the Tenth Planet?
[10:27] <QueenVee> the ones who are sympathetic, likely to be open to it....
[10:27] <QueenVee> the guys who first talked about it in 1983
[10:28] <QueenVee> the ones mentioned in that recent Independent article...
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[10:30] <SteveH> It might be hard to get a hold of them, and they're probably very busy
[10:30] <[3j]> QueenVee is right you should report whatever you find
[10:30] <Zetapal> also -I agree with you about SH being careful about reporting it - could bring heat
[10:30] <tied2> what thats a first 3J and Queen agree?
[10:30] <QueenVee> Easy to find a mailing address if they are associated with an academic institution -- i'd be happy to help you track them down....
[10:31] <[3j]> no
[10:31] <SteveH> If I get too active they could crash down on me somehow
[10:31] <tied2> yep
[10:31] <Zetapal> right
[10:32] <QueenVee> what if a third party (like me) were to send the info to those guys, just direct them to the pics on the zetatalk site?
[10:32] <tied2> all were saying is be careful
[10:32] <[3j]> well then detail your findings, perhaps other amateurs would be willing to report it for you?
[10:32] <Zetapal> on the other hand you could end up a hero on the nightly news - but you should be prepared for either
[10:32] <SteveH> QueenVee, send them to whoever you like, I won't complain
[10:32] <QueenVee> alright then
[10:33] * QueenVee is dismayed to find herself having volunteered for yet another project.....
[10:33] <SteveH> I don't think it would ever be on the nightly news, the astronomical institute is well aware of this I'm sure for a long time
[10:34] <tied2> right
[10:34] <SteveH> I can see the reasons for reporting but I can also see the reasons not to, maybe we shoud vote hehe
[10:34] <Zetapal> no way
[10:35] <QueenVee> oh no, not a vote!
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[10:35] <SteveH> lol
[10:36] <Zetapal> I wouldn't send another into battle - thats his decision
[10:36] <[3j]> the vote would end up being in favor to report it
[10:36] <tied2> I'm betting the opposite
[10:37] <QueenVee> well put, zetapal
[10:37] <QueenVee> there are already too many who feel that Steve somehow works for them....
[10:38] <[3j]> i dont know.. lots of people who really believe its there want to see it reported, get the proper big attention, and then the sceptics and die hard opposition would all want to see the whole px thing go away
[10:38] <tied2> works for who ? Nancy?
[10:38] <SteveH> me, working for them?
[10:38] <QueenVee> no -- i mean the people who are always whining "Why isn't Steve taking more pictures".... etc
[10:38] <tied2> oh gainsayers
[10:38] <QueenVee> the ones who complained he went on vacation
[10:39] <Zetapal> lol - looks like because of his effort SH has been promoted to servant
[10:39] <QueenVee> yeah, that happens
[10:40] <QueenVee> i got an email yesterday from someone demanding why i wasn't providing a map of the aftertime on my website....
[10:40] <SteveH> I don't mind any heat I get
[10:41] <tied2> what I'm saying is you might find yourself with no way to take more pic's
[10:42] <SteveH> ahhhh and the plot thickens, yes, they could crack down that way
[10:44] <tied2> then the say oh well it was just asteroids and you have no way to refute
[10:44] <SteveH> yes, they could do that
[10:44] <QueenVee> tied2: yes, that is a legitimate concern, in terms of any "official" reporting
[10:49] <[3j]> report it, get the attention. more interest will come and then more people with big scopes will look
[10:49] <[3j]> and besides once you do report it it kind of protects you from being knocked off if you think the govt would do that :)
[10:50] <tied2> lol
[10:51] <SteveH> good points
[10:52] <tied2> keep a low profile you can't go wrong with that
[10:56] <SteveH> every astronomer and their mom has probably heard something about this by now, if they want to look they can
[10:57] <tied2> exactly
[10:58] <tied2> brb
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[10:58] <SteveH> brb as well
[10:58] <[3j]> well perhaps they dont want to look, or they just lack the initiative that can be found with some concrete and detailed observations
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[11:06] <SteveH> people, the images can now be downloaded from here: http://www.troubled-times.com/fits/
[11:06] <QueenVee> thanks, Steve
[11:06] <SteveH> I hope it doesn't get to slow!
[11:08] <SteveH> heading out now for awhile :-)
[11:08] <Jurian> have fun :)
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[12:37] <obany> hi Jeremy
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[13:09] <Jeremy> hi obany, brb
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[16:01] <obany> bye
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[17:20] <SteveD> Hi all
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[17:44] <k000t1> hi
[17:44] <z> salut, k000t1
[17:44] <k000t1> salut
[17:45] <k000t1> hows it going z
[17:45] <k000t1> preparing your plan
[17:45] <k000t1> i am
[17:45] <k000t1> sort of consumed with it
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[18:27] <midwest> if planet x is to make it's pass next year, why isn't the govt notifying people to help prepare for the event
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[19:29] <monk> hey 3j
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[19:42] <ukuz_zzz> did anyone download the new images and view them?
[19:42] <ukuz_zzz> :|
[19:42] <monk> no'
[19:42] <monk> to laggy
[19:42] <monk> to download them
[19:43] <ukuz_zzz> i cant view them with irfanview
[19:43] <ukuz_zzz> :(
[19:44] <monk> they are bmps?
[19:44] <ukuz_zzz> yes
[19:44] <ukuz_zzz> is there a website that asready has them viewable
[19:44] <ukuz_zzz> ?
[19:44] <ukuz_zzz> already
[19:44] <monk> make them a different kind of image then open them
[19:45] <ukuz_zzz> well, i havent tried that yet....
[19:45] <ukuz_zzz> hmmm
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[19:49] <monk> huh
[19:49] <monk> ahhh
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