Session Start: Sun Dec 29 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #Troubled_Times
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[00:32] <haccess> http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/news2.html
[00:32] <haccess> NAKED PASSION: Raelians and plain thrill-seekers openly cavort nude on the grass at a mass gathering in a French field
[00:32] <haccess> thrill-seekers openly cavort nude!!!
[00:32] <haccess> MAN WAS BORN TO BE CLOTHED!!  BAN ALL NAKED PEOPLE!!  REPENT!!
[00:32] <haccess> REPENT!!
[00:32] <haccess> REPENT!!
[00:32] <haccess> :P
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[02:50] <obany> Hi Ju
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[03:14] <obany> i have to go again
[03:14] <obany> probaly to late in the afternoon
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[06:08] <obany> ooh nee he
[06:08] <obany> het is Jurian ...
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[06:09] <Jurian> :p
[06:13] <obany> http://frontpage.fok.nl/news.fok?id=24969 :/
[06:21] <obany> brb
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[09:06] <Himitsu> ni Nightbird
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[09:26] <Nightbird> Hi Himi.. sorry didn't mean to be rude.. was in another chat and got busy with links and such
[09:26] <Nightbird> HI Tied
[09:27] <tied2> hello birdie
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[09:47] <airman_contagious_corpses_of_1> hello
[09:47] <Redafk> Hey airman
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[11:14] <Howmo> Any life here?
[11:15] <Howmo> What a bizarre chat yesterday!
[11:15] <Howmo> Obany continually kicking people for no apparent reason...
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[11:15] <Howmo> Hey...
[11:16] <Howmo> Hi Him
[11:16] <Himitsu> how is that different from any other day Howmo?
[11:16] <Himitsu> hehe
[11:16] <Howmo> It was more than usual..
[11:16] <reticuli> must be a sign of the end times
[11:16] <Himitsu> must be getting anxious or something
[11:16] <Himitsu> lol
[11:16] <Howmo> I read the part after I was banned...
[11:16] <Howmo>  Amazing!
[11:16] <Himitsu> to say the least
[11:17] <reticuli> how so?
[11:17] <Himitsu> it is always amazing
[11:17] <Howmo> Obany kicking ...
[11:17] <Howmo> Kicking anyone and everyone who questions...
[11:17] <obany> Howmo: sigh .....yes i read your posting about me ..
[11:17] <Himitsu> only questions that cannot be answered
[11:17] <Himitsu> sigh...
[11:18] <Howmo> Yes, Him...
[11:18] <reticuli> was this in #zetatalk?
[11:18] <Howmo> Both, ret
[11:18] <Howmo> Here too.
[11:19] <Howmo> I was trying to ask obany what q's he would "allow" and he kicked me for that.
[11:19] <Himitsu> typical
[11:19] <reticuli> lol
[11:19] <reticuli> must be the magnetic effects of the approaching planet
[11:19] <Howmo> I was banned from the session for asking Nancy if obany was screening her Q's- which he WAS!
[11:20] <Himitsu> hehehe
[11:20] <Howmo> Someone told me that was "rude" of me.
[11:20] <Howmo> Yikes!
[11:20] <Himitsu> reminds me of wizard of oz
[11:20] <Himitsu> pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
[11:20] <reticuli> where are you himitsu?
[11:20] <Himitsu> Japan
[11:21] <reticuli> I have been there once
[11:21] <reticuli> a long time ago
[11:21] <Howmo> Obany, Dell would not answer my magnitude question.
[11:21] <Himitsu> did you like it?
[11:21] <Himitsu> Howmo: I wonder why?
[11:21] <reticuli> yeah, I had a great time
[11:21] <Howmo> Obany, Dell says he won't figure magnitude.
[11:21] <Himitsu> it is fun. I'll be in Tokyo for new years
[11:22] <Howmo> He only "compares to background".
[11:22] <Himitsu> Howmo: I think that means can't
[11:22] <reticuli> r u japanese?
[11:22] <Himitsu> nope
[11:22] <Himitsu> gaijin
[11:22] <reticuli> didnt think so
[11:22] <Himitsu> English is too good?
[11:22] <Himitsu> hehehe
[11:22] <Howmo> Well, he won't try because it will show that he is wrong about "getting brighter".
[11:22] <reticuli> do you teach?
[11:22] <Himitsu> noo
[11:22] <reticuli> lol, no you are too sarcastic
[11:22] <Himitsu> hahah
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[11:23] <Himitsu> you should meet my wife!
[11:23] <Howmo> Anybodyu seen S7L?
[11:23] <Himitsu> of course she might have learned sarcasm from me
[11:23] <reticuli> hehe
[11:23] <Himitsu> she is Japanese
[11:23] <Himitsu> I just work here
[11:23] <reticuli> in what capacity?
[11:24] <Himitsu> really want to know?
[11:24] <reticuli> yep
[11:24] <Himitsu> I work for DOD
[11:24] <Howmo> Obany, what makes you think that you can speak for the zetas now?
[11:24] <reticuli> what do you do?
[11:25] <Himitsu> electronics work on sensors
[11:25] <Howmo> Why do you tell me what they "won't answer"?
[11:25] <Himitsu> pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
[11:25] <reticuli> what kind of sensors?
[11:25] <Himitsu> when were you here ret?
[11:25] <reticuli> 1986
[11:25] <Himitsu> not too long ago
[11:26] <Himitsu> I think I might stay here for good though
[11:26] <reticuli> its all relative I guess
[11:26] <reticuli> yeah, well you have a good reason to :)
[11:26] <Himitsu> yeah, only thing I don't like is that I have to travel so far to get dark skies
[11:26] <reticuli> r u in the south or something?
[11:27] <Himitsu> too close to Tokyo
[11:27] <reticuli> oh i see, you mean for astronomy
[11:27] <Himitsu> yep
[11:27] <Himitsu> if I want really dark skies, I have to pack my scope and drive for about 2-3 hours
[11:28] <Howmo> Hey Him, Have you looked at nancy's coords?
[11:28] <reticuli> what kind of sensors do you work on?
[11:28] <Himitsu> I was looking at Orion tonight, not looking for a mythical planet though
[11:28] <Himitsu> I should say looking around Orion
[11:29] <reticuli> have you ever looked for px?
[11:29] <Himitsu> not really, but I do spend a lot of time in that area of the sky, but only because it is an interesting area
[11:30] <Himitsu> I try not to hunt for things because of a woman hearing voices in her head
[11:30] <reticuli> i dont have the equipment or expereince to look for something so elusive
[11:30] <Howmo> Uh oh.. you must be part of the "coverup"!
[11:30] <Himitsu> yeah, I am busted
[11:30] <Himitsu> I actually work for nasa
[11:30] <Himitsu> lol
[11:30] <Himitsu> don't I wish
[11:31] <Himitsu> all of my disinfo is strictly pro-bono
[11:31] <Himitsu> that is for the public good obany
[11:31] <Howmo> You should see about getting paid.
[11:31] <Himitsu> lol
[11:31] <Himitsu> cutbacks
[11:31] <Howmo> Like MC.....
[11:31] <Himitsu> hahahaha
[11:32] <Himitsu> reticuli: you don't need much in the way of equipment
[11:32] <Himitsu> get some binoculars. good ones aren't that expensive
[11:32] <Himitsu> if you like looking, then upgrade to a good scope
[11:33] <Himitsu> you can get a huge dobsonian for less that 1000 dollars and it will have good optics
[11:33] <Himitsu> not good enough to see a mythical planet, but good enough to see anything else
[11:34] <Howmo> Obany, here is the text of my "private" exchange with Dell testerday..
[11:34] <Howmo> Below is your Salmon Internet Invoice. Please be sure to pay your Internet bill by the due date shown on your invoice.
[11:34] <Howmo> Whoops...
[11:34] <Howmo> Try again..
[11:34] <Himitsu> lol
[11:35] <Himitsu> I was really wondering what that was about
[11:35] <Howmo> <Howmo> Mr. Dell. What is the magnitude of PX in the images?
[11:35] <Howmo> <jwilliam> Howmo: My aim is to document brightness increases between Sept 21 and eyeball-able (End of March/Begin April) I do that by measuring intensity against background on each set of images. This documents brightness increase with the raw data. Magnitude numbers I am not interested in calculating or doing so others have something to argue about. May I suggest you download the images and proceed with your own calculations ;o)  
[11:35] <Howmo> <Howmo> I am not qualified. Are you?
[11:35] <Howmo> <jwilliam> You have received your answer. Excuse me well I follow the Main chat.
[11:35] <Howmo> <Howmo> I can't do that. Have been kicked for speaking of magnitude.
[11:35] <Howmo> <Howmo> It seems to be off-limits. Why?
[11:35] <Howmo> No response after that.
[11:36] <Howmo> What a riot!
[11:36] <Howmo> Dell compares CONTRAST....
[11:37] <Howmo> And says "It's brighter"!
[11:37] <Howmo> Hahahahahahhhahaaaaaaaaaaa......
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[11:38] <Howmo> Hi Fetus.
[11:38] <fetus> hello!
[11:38] <fetus> how are you?
[11:38] <Howmo> Sup?
[11:38] <Howmo> I'm Ok
[11:38] <Howmo> Was just laughing about Mr, Dell.
[11:38] <fetus> ahh
[11:39] <fetus> whats so funny?
[11:39] <Howmo> His "brighter" claims, based on only contrast.
[11:39] <fetus> ok
[11:39] <Howmo> Contrast that he "adjusts" in...
[11:40] <Howmo> He refuses do calculate actual magnitude.
[11:40] <fetus> were you laughing by yourself?
[11:40] <Howmo> No, Him and Ret are here.
[11:40] <fetus> ahh
[11:41] <Howmo> They were discussing astronomy too.
[11:41] <Howmo> Him has scope.
[11:41] <Howmo> Obany was here, but is not responding about magnitude.
[11:41] <Howmo> he can't take it.
[11:42] <Howmo> New person has downloaded the images and posting on tt.
[11:42] <Howmo> Says they see nothig but noise.
[11:42] <Howmo> Gee, what a suprise!
[11:44] <Howmo> Oh well, seems quiet here now.
[11:44] <Howmo> Obany won't come out and play.
[11:45] <fetus> so howmo..
[11:45] <Howmo> ??
[11:45] <fetus> do you have a water filter?
[11:46] <Howmo> Yep, why?
[11:46] <fetus> or distiler?
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[11:46] <fetus> good...seeds and food supplies?
[11:46] <Himitsu> I do, my fridge is full!
[11:46] <Howmo> I use a tap filter for bulk use, but I get my drinking water froma spring.
[11:47] <Howmo> I have food on hand, why?
[11:47] <fetus> a tent? hiking and backpacking equipment?
[11:47] <Howmo> That is only common sense.
[11:47] <Howmo> Sure, I have that stuff. I like to hike/camp.
[11:47] <fetus> good and good :)
[11:47] <Howmo> Why?
[11:48] <Himitsu> Howmo: I think he wants to know if you are ready for next years non-event
[11:48] <fetus> himitsu: um no...thanks for sticking that in my mouth though
[11:48] <Himitsu> anytime
[11:48] <obany> fetus: don't ask howmo as for him ... it's like total BS right now ...
[11:48] <Himitsu> like, really?
[11:48] <Howmo> Of course it is, obany.
[11:49] <fetus> its good to be ready for anything.
[11:49] <Howmo> If nancy would answer about magnitude, you would see that too.
[11:49] <Nightbird> Thats is true, Fetus..
[11:49] <Howmo> Fetus, you can't prepare for "anything".
[11:49] <Himitsu> or distance
[11:49] <Himitsu> or simple physics
[11:49] <Nightbird> Howmo, even if it doesn't happen next year.. the signs are all around us that something is up
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[11:50] <Howmo> What signs?
[11:50] <fetus> nightbird: right
[11:50] <Nightbird> Weather problems.. insurance policies being cancelled
[11:50] <fetus> you are to concerned about magnitude to see them :)
[11:50] <Howmo> You see, I was saying exactly whay you are saying, 20 years ago.
[11:50] <Nightbird> Do you ever listen to Bruce Williams?
[11:50] <Howmo> Nothing ever happened.
[11:51] <Nightbird> He lives in FL and he said that two counties have cancelled all of their insurance.. these are pricey homes.. not the slums
[11:51] <Howmo> I was involved in "prep" groups over 5 yeqars ago who thought it was all crashing down every few months.
[11:51] <Howmo> So?
[11:52] <Howmo> The economy is not in good shape...
[11:52] <Nightbird> I understand that... but there have been so many prophecies concerning a pole shift.. they can't all be kooks
[11:52] <Howmo> What else is new?
[11:52] <Nightbird> Howmo.. maybe they know something
[11:52] <Howmo> Yes, there have....
[11:52] <Howmo> However, Nancy Lieder is lying about the images.
[11:53] <Nightbird> If the insurance companies were making money on those policies... they would not cancel
[11:53] <Howmo> So?
[11:53] <Nightbird> Leave Nancy out of it.. and just look at the signs in general
[11:53] <Howmo> You are jumping to conclusions.
[11:53] <Nightbird> I am not the only one
[11:53] <Howmo> Much/most of the stuff going arounf the net STARTED with Lieder.
[11:53] <Nightbird> what about the Martial laws they have passed recently?
[11:54] <Howmo> I talked about that 20 years ago.
[11:54] <Howmo> It is all circumstantial...
[11:54] <Nightbird> The "Model State Emergency Health Powers Act"?
[11:54] <Howmo> It has nothignto do with PX.
[11:54] <Howmo> What about RICO?
[11:54] <Howmo> etc, etc, etc,
[11:55] <Howmo> Has nothing to do with PX.
[11:55] <Nightbird> Maybe not.. I just saw an Army training manual on "internment and relocation" of people.. US Army
[11:55] <Nightbird> might just be crapola..
[11:55] <Nightbird> but the signs are becoming overwhelming
[11:56] <Howmo> What about physical evidence of PX?
[11:56] <fetus> earth isnt the only planet warming up
[11:56] <Howmo> What signs?
[11:56] <Howmo> So somebody says....
[11:56] <fetus> haha
[11:56] <Nightbird> Weather changes becoming more and more disasterous
[11:56] <Himitsu> well, it is late and the psuedo science is running rampant, so I think I am going to go to bed
[11:56] <Howmo> I know that things like "underreporting" of quakes are BS.
[11:57] <Howmo> Is BS.
[11:57] <Nightbird> nut cases running loose.. shooting up school.. raping little kids.. killing their parents
[11:57] <fetus> how so?
[11:57] <Howmo> What has that to do with PX?
[11:57] <Nightbird> PX is just the end of it
[11:57] <Howmo> Fetus, the whole "underreporting" thing started with ....
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[11:57] <Howmo> A guy called "tuatha"...
[11:57] <Nightbird> the pole shift has been prophesized for hundreds of years
[11:58] <Howmo> Who couldn't access soem internet files...
[11:58] <Howmo> ..from quakes sites....
[11:58] <fetus> ok
[11:58] <Nightbird> The Bible for example
[11:58] <fetus> have you looked at different sights for reporting?
[11:58] <Howmo> he was later shown how to do it, but he never retracted his claim that the files were being "hidden".
[11:58] <Nightbird> Mother Shipton for another
[11:59] <Howmo> Nancy and others picked thqat up and ran with it...
[11:59] <Howmo> nancy picks anything she thinks will uphols her theories.
[11:59] <Nightbird> possibly.. I am talking about a pole shift in general.. not just Nancy's take on it
[11:59] <Howmo> nancy Lieder IS PX2003.
[12:00] <Howmo> nancy has been lying about earthquake stats for years.
[12:00] <Nightbird> I have seen the stats.. Howmo.. I don't think she is lying
[12:00] <fetus> so are you trying to stop people from..what?
[12:00] <Howmo> Her most recent offering on that was to cherry-pick a narrow two month window...
[12:00] <Nightbird> "Earthquakes in Divers places"..
[12:00] <Nightbird> Diverse.. rather
[12:00] <Howmo>  and say that it show a "dramatic increase".
[12:01] <Nightbird> There has been an increase
[12:01] <Howmo> No, it says "divers".
[12:01] <Howmo> Ther has not.
[12:01] <Nightbird> also an increase in volcanic activity
[12:01] <Howmo> No, that is not true.
[12:01] <fetus> Howmo: so what are you trying to stop people from doing or thinking?
[12:01] <Howmo> Ther has NOT been an increase in those things.
[12:01] <Howmo> Fetus, false info.
[12:01] <Nightbird> I read the papers, Howmo...
[12:02] <Howmo> And...?
[12:02] <Nightbird> so USA today is in on Nancy's game, too???
[12:02] <Howmo> you believe "the papers" when they print something you WANT to believe?
[12:02] <fetus> if its all true its life and death not false info..
[12:02] <Howmo> It's not true.
[12:02] <Nightbird> I believe what I read when it is backed up with a picture..
[12:02] <Howmo> Picture of what?
[12:02] <fetus> if its not...big deal, we'll see it play out.
[12:03] <Nightbird> what do you ahve to back up your claims?
[12:03] <Nightbird> the volcano going off and people being kept from the area.. living in shelters etc
[12:03] <Howmo> No big deal except for those who sell their homes.
[12:03] <Howmo> Nightbird, what claims?
[12:03] <Nightbird> I haven't sold anything
[12:03] <Nightbird> that PX is BS
[12:03] <Howmo> I haven't "claimed " anything
[12:03] <Nightbird> that there is no emminent pole shift
[12:04] <fetus> well the people who sell there homes arnt my problem...you can prepare for a number of things without selling yourself out.
[12:04] <Howmo> I have looked at the "info" it is BS
[12:04] <Nightbird> why should I believe you over USA Today or other pictures of what I have seen?
[12:04] <fetus> i have a very limited budget and have still managed to gather many useful items over the last couple years.
[12:04] <Howmo> You can't prepare for Nancy's poleshift with out altering your life severely.
[12:04] <fetus> um...yes you can
[12:05] <Nightbird> That is BS, Howmo
[12:05] <Howmo> What is, night?
[12:05] <Nightbird> I have food stored.. hand tools, water stored
[12:05] <Nightbird> and I live in TX
[12:05] <Howmo> So do I
[12:05] <fetus> homow: big bs...its all your choice.
[12:05] <Howmo> You can't survive near any population.
[12:05] <Nightbird> then you obviously believe that something is up
[12:05] <fetus> there are other ways to prepare.
[12:06] <Nightbird> yes you can
[12:06] <Howmo> Like what, night?
[12:06] <Nightbird> like a reason to need supplies stored, Howmo
[12:06] <Howmo> Nancy says to leave Texas.
[12:06] <Nightbird> I know that
[12:06] <Howmo> It's just common sense, night.
[12:06] <Nightbird> I don't care if I "die"
[12:07] <Nightbird> I have these things stored for my husband
[12:07] <Howmo> Then, as I said, you must alter your life severely to survive.
[12:07] <Nightbird> he needs to live
[12:07] <Howmo> Ie" MOVE.
[12:07] <Nightbird> no.. I am not moving
[12:07] <Howmo> Then, according to nancy, you  will DIE.
[12:07] <Nightbird> I am 500 miles from the coast.. if that isn't far enough... then so be it
[12:08] <Howmo> sO BE IT.
[12:08] <Howmo> whoops.
[12:08] <Nightbird> I don't live and breathe every word from Nancy's lips.. Howmo
[12:08] <Howmo> Earthquakes are NOT up.
[12:08] <Nightbird> in fact some of it I disagree with
[12:08] <Howmo> Solar activity isNOT up.
[12:08] <Nightbird> but I am still respectful and learn what I can from her sources
[12:08] <Howmo> you have to believe in the "coverup" to believe that.
[12:09] <Howmo> Wath sources?
[12:09] <Nightbird> I don't pick fights with her.. because it is not "NightbirdTalks" it is her show
[12:09] <Howmo> Nancy or the "zetas" are LYING about imaging.
[12:09] <Nightbird> so what
[12:09] <Howmo> She is manipulating poeple.
[12:10] <Howmo> Or trying...
[12:10] <Nightbird> what is the worst that can happen?
[12:10] <Nightbird> would you rather not know if she was right?
[12:10] <Howmo> People can sell their homes, quit their jobs...
[12:10] <Nightbird> some need to move anyway
[12:10] <Nightbird> coastal areas will be inundated
[12:11] <Howmo> What a lame point...
[12:11] <Nightbird> whether the Zeta's are right or not
[12:11] <Howmo> Will? According to whom?
[12:11] <Nightbird> it isn't lame
[12:11] <Howmo> People should move for REAL reasons, not because nancy told them to.
[12:12] <Nightbird> Edgar Cayce, Mary Summer Rain, Gordon-Michael Scallion, Jesus, The Bible, Mother Shipton... need I go on?
[12:12] <Howmo> Scallion say NO to PX in 2003.
[12:12] <Nightbird> so the pole shift is still going to happen in our lifetimes
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[12:12] <Howmo> Cayce's predictions have most all past now.
[12:13] <Nightbird> not the pole shift one
[12:13] <Howmo> The Bible is not agreed upon at ALL.
[12:13] <Nightbird> Every idland and mountain moved from its place
[12:13] <Howmo> And what is going to cause a poleshift?
[12:13] <Nightbird> island, rather
[12:13] <Nightbird> stars shaken in the heavens
[12:13] <fetus> howmo: is your mission in this chat room to save the people from selling their homes, cars and all the other crap they have collected over the years?
[12:13] <Nightbird> I didn't know until I started researching PX
[12:13] <Howmo> How do you know what is metafor and what is not?
[12:14] <Nightbird> Howmo.. I know a great book for you.. and Nancy is not in it
[12:14] <Howmo> Fetus, why are you concerned about my "mission".
[12:14] <Howmo> ?
[12:14] <fetus> just interested....so you do have a ission? :)
[12:14] <fetus> mission :)
[12:14] <Howmo> Do you?
[12:14] <Nightbird> It is called.. "When the Comet Runs" by Tom Kay
[12:14] <Howmo> It is a silly question.
[12:15] <Howmo> "WE ARE THE EARTHQUAKE GENERATION".
[12:15] <Nightbird> Tom thought the comet Hale-Bop would be the trigger.. I know now it is PX
[12:15] <fetus> hehe...if i have one its to let the people i know that this could happen...i have done nothing but given them the information i have found.
[12:15] <Howmo> Circa 1978.
[12:15] <Howmo> Night, where is PX?
[12:15] <Howmo> Fetus, where is PX?
[12:16] <Nightbird> I don't know, Howmo
[12:16] <fetus> not to sure
[12:16] <Howmo> Oh, that's good "evidence".
[12:16] <Nightbird> I do know that time is short
[12:16] <Howmo> Why?
[12:16] <Nightbird> that all the signs are there
[12:16] <Howmo> Jesus said "time is short".
[12:16] <Nightbird> because we can't go on as a planet
[12:16] <Howmo> Right?
[12:16] <fetus> strong in his mission..
[12:16] <Nightbird> no..
[12:16] <Nightbird> the signs are all in place
[12:16] <Howmo> Yes, he did.
[12:17] <Howmo> The "signs" are ALWAYS in place.
[12:17] <Nightbird> I am constantly hearing scientific reports that by 2050 the worlds population will starve.. etc
[12:17] <Howmo> So?
[12:17] <Howmo> What does that have to do with PX?
[12:17] <Nightbird> so something will have to give
[12:17] <Howmo> What does that have to do with PX?
[12:18] <Howmo> Nothing.
[12:18] <Nightbird> this planet cannot survive the onslought
[12:18] <Howmo> Unless you think it is god's vengence.
[12:18] <Nightbird> nature will have to shut us down
[12:18] <Nightbird> no.. natural occurance
[12:18] <Howmo> "Have to"????
[12:18] <Nightbird> yes..
[12:18] <Howmo> PX is going to come because of overpopulation??????
[12:18] <Nightbird> we have poluted, and used with abandon
[12:19] <Howmo> ??????
[12:19] <Nightbird> no.. it is a natural occurance
[12:19] <Nightbird> so you feel that Sitchin is full of it, too?
[12:19] <Howmo> Then what does it ahve to do with all you have been saying?
[12:19] <Nightbird> things are winding up
[12:19] <Howmo> Sitchen say NO PX in 2003.
[12:19] <Nightbird> I know
[12:20] <Howmo> you don't believe him?
[12:20] <Nightbird> but you seem to think that PX is a myth
[12:20] <Nightbird> I never said I believe in PX next year
[12:20] <Howmo> PX in 2003 is total BS.
[12:20] <fetus> Howmo: is your mission to discredit one persons..."book"?
[12:20] <Nightbird> I personally think that is too soon
[12:20] <Howmo> Nancy Lieder is lying about images. Why?
[12:21] <Howmo> Why?
[12:21] <obany> why
[12:21] <obany> why
[12:21] <obany> why
[12:21] <Himits-away> why why why
[12:21] <obany> sigh
[12:21] <Nightbird> but I am openminded about what Nancy has to say... why throw the baby out with the bathwater??
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[12:21] <Howmo> Which is the baby?
[12:21] <Nightbird> the useful information
[12:21] <Himits-away> pretty funny, he runs from his own channel
[12:21] <Howmo> Which is that?
[12:21] <Nightbird> If it is coming I want to  know
[12:22] <Howmo> Nancy is lying about the "coverup" of PX.
[12:22] <Nightbird> I doubt the government would tell us
[12:22] <Howmo> It became utterly obvious last January.
[12:22] <Nightbird> Howmo.. what do you think about the forced quarantine of US citzens?
[12:22] <Howmo> Nancy Lieder is lying.
[12:23] <Howmo> Don't change the subject.
[12:23] <Nightbird> why not.. we aren't getting anywhere with the other one
[12:23] <fetus> Howmo: is your mission to discredit one persons..."book"??
[12:23] <Howmo> You, and many other, will not accept the ramifications of the fact that Nanjcy Lieder is lying.
[12:24] <Nightbird> who cares if she is lying?
[12:24] <Howmo> The "zetas" are lying.
[12:24] <fetus> nightbird: the people that sold their houses.
[12:24] <Howmo> They are manipulating yout.
[12:24] <fetus> :)
[12:24] <Nightbird> OK, who cares if the Z's are lying?
[12:24] <Howmo> you.
[12:24] <Howmo> Come now....
[12:25] <Nightbird> not manipulating me.. I have most of my stuff since Y2K.. before I ever heard of Nancy or the Zetas
[12:25] <Howmo> Subtract everything that started with nancy and see what you have left.
[12:25] <Howmo> Very little...
[12:25] <Nightbird> It didn't start with Nancy for me, Howmo
[12:25] <Howmo> nancy goes waaaay back before Y@K
[12:25] <Howmo> y2k
[12:25] <Nightbird> I have known about the pole shift since I first read Cayce 22 years ago
[12:26] <Howmo> So Have I. What has happened that Cayce predicted?
[12:26] <Nightbird> I never heard of Nancy until about 6 months ago
[12:26] <fetus> y2k was all over the major media...this topic has gotten 0 media coverage and i do think the interent buzz would warrant some kind of story....at least to discredit it.
[12:26] <Nightbird> WW2 for one.. Howmo
[12:26] <fetus> in the major media...a discovery channel special or something.
[12:26] <Howmo> Fetus, so either WAY, it
[12:26] <Howmo> is evidence of "coverup?
[12:27] <Nightbird> Fetus.. Discovery Channel is constantly running disaster shows lately
[12:27] <Howmo> No news or any news?
[12:27] <Nightbird> and the History Channel keeps running "Ancient Prophecies" every weekend
[12:27] <fetus> yes...definatly noticed an inrease in block buster disaster movies.
[12:27] <Howmo> So, they are TELLING you and THAT is also part of the coverup???
[12:27] <Nightbird> Not movies.. documentaries
[12:28] <Howmo> No news is coverup... movies are coverup...
[12:28] <Howmo> It's ALL coverup....
[12:28] <Nightbird> like "Super Volcano" and "Hurricane X"
[12:28] <Nightbird> just recently
[12:28] <Howmo> How do yo know it's not "reverse" COVERUP?
[12:28] <Nightbird> these are not movies but documentaires
[12:28] <Howmo> Anti-coverup?
[12:29] <Nightbird> I think they are preparing us subconsciously for something coming up (not necessarily 2003)
[12:29] <Howmo>  How do you know they are not fooling you by getting you to think they are fooling you???
[12:29] <Howmo> Oh, why not 2003?
[12:29] <Nightbird> I don't know when it will happen..
[12:29] <Howmo> Everybody is abandoning the sinking zetaship.
[12:29] <Nightbird> but I am betting before 2005
[12:30] <Howmo> Why?
[12:30] <Nightbird> I am not abandoning Zetaship...LOL
[12:30] <Howmo> What is the evidence?
[12:30] <Nightbird> a vision I had
[12:30] <Howmo> Oh...
[12:30] <Howmo> Let me offer this....
[12:30] <Howmo> Listen....
[12:31] <Nightbird> Howmo.. can't you see you don't have to believe 100% to see what is being said and to make your own mind??
[12:31] <Howmo> Do you understand the concept of "subliminal programming"?
[12:31] <Nightbird> yes..
[12:31] <Howmo> ... and so, why don't you think that you "vision" came from that?
[12:31] <Nightbird> something I am wondering is why does this bother you so much?
[12:32] <Nightbird> my vision was years ago..
[12:32] <Nightbird> I aksed for a date
[12:32] <Howmo> So?
[12:32] <Howmo> Asked who?
[12:32] <Nightbird> the date given was October 2004
[12:32] <Howmo> And what was the date?
[12:32] <Howmo> Oh.
[12:32] <Nightbird> my subconscious
[12:32] <Nightbird> or God or whoever
[12:33] <Howmo> I see, and you don't think the subliminals can have affected your subsciousness?
[12:33] <Nightbird> why does this bother you so much?
[12:33] <Nightbird> from a book?
[12:33] <Nightbird> and not Nancy's
[12:33] <Howmo> Why? you are discussing this at the same time as I.
[12:33] <Howmo> Whyshould my motives be questioned.
[12:33] <Nightbird> it after I read "Spirit Song" by Mary Summer Rain
[12:33] <Howmo> ?
[12:34] <Howmo> No, Night.... SUBLIMINALS....
[12:34] <Nightbird> Because it is obvious you think it is crappola from start to finish
[12:34] <Howmo> No, I think that Nancy Lieder is lying.
[12:34] <Nightbird> so what if she is?
[12:34] <Howmo> She IS lying. Why?
[12:35] <Howmo> Then what is HER motive????
[12:35] <Howmo> What is the "zeta" motive???
[12:35] <Nightbird> who knows.. the information is what I am after... I am adult enough to believe what I will from it
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[12:35] <Howmo> nancy's "information" is lies, get it?
[12:36] <obany> !kick howmo get it
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[12:36] <Nightbird> not entirely, Howmo
[12:36] <Nightbird> LOl.. wondered when that was gonna happen
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[12:36] <Howmo> So, night, why must I be kicke dfor saying that/
[12:36] <Nightbird> Howmo.. it can't all be lies
[12:36] <Howmo> ?
[12:37] <Nightbird> I didn't kick you, Howmo
[12:37] <Howmo> Why must I be kicked for saying that?
[12:37] <obany> ooh come on howmo
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[12:37] <Howmo> Why will Obany NEVER discuss the images?
[12:37] <Nightbird> Ask Obany..
[12:37] <Nightbird> I don't know
[12:37] <Howmo> Why will he not allow questions to nancy about them?
[12:37] <Nightbird> don't care
[12:38] <Howmo> Nancy is lying. What does that mean to the PX story?
[12:38] <Nightbird> perhaps they get tired of the same old questions all the time
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[12:38] <Howmo> Oh yeah, nice dodge.
[12:38] <Nightbird> Howmo.. PX doesn't depend upon Nancy
[12:39] <Nightbird> There is much evidence it exists.. without imput from Nancy or the Zetas
[12:39] <obany> but nightbird howmo doesn't believe in a Planet X at all
[12:39] <Howmo> What is there that she hasen't started? Very little.
[12:39] <Nightbird> so I see, Obany
[12:39] <Nightbird> What about Zecharia Sitchin
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[12:39] <Nightbird> and the Summarians?
[12:39] <Howmo> The net is full of inuendo and false info about "earth-changes".
[12:39] <Nightbird> Also Carl Sagan spoke of it
[12:40] <Howmo> I know, I used to beleive it.
[12:40] <obany> killing who himitsu??
[12:40] <Nightbird> are these two "nutcases" also?
[12:40] <Howmo> Any tiny tidbit is blown out of proportion and passed around as if it meant something.
[12:40] <Nightbird> Howmo, what of the Bible in Revlations.. is John a nutcase also?
[12:41] <Howmo> Night, I know people who can PROVE from the Bible that Jesus returned in Persia in the 1800's.
[12:41] <Nightbird> If you take Nancy/Zetas out of the equation.. there is still smple evidence to speak of PX and earthchanges
[12:42] <Howmo> The Bah'ia..(sp)
[12:42] <Nightbird> I ahve read the Gnostics too, Howmo
[12:42] <Howmo> What evidence?
[12:42] <Howmo> Name some.
[12:42] <Howmo> Sorry, no increases in quakes.
[12:43] <Howmo> Same wit Solar.
[12:43] <Nightbird> Sitchin for one, Sagan for two, Bible for three.. Mother Shipton and the "bearded dragon" for four... and on and on it goes
[12:43] <Howmo> Same with volcanoes.
[12:43] <Howmo> Ummm, PHYSICAL evidence.
[12:43] <Howmo> Not prophecies.
[12:43] <Nightbird> Howmo.. I see the uptick in volcanoes.. without any input from Nancy et all
[12:44] <Howmo> Not happening, sorry.
[12:44] <Nightbird> two or three going off in Mexico
[12:44] <Nightbird> The underwater ones causing El Nino
[12:44] <Howmo> And you think there have never been 2 or 3 volcanoes going off before?
[12:44] <Nightbird> Etna.. of course it goes off all the time
[12:45] <Nightbird> Mount Serrat
[12:45] <Howmo> You think Aetna has never errupted before?
[12:45] <Howmo> Serrat either?
[12:45] <Nightbird> all the time.. just said so
[12:45] <Howmo> Look at the ACTUAL stats, man....
[12:45] <Nightbird> would anything make you believe we are in earthchanges.. or is your mind closed?
[12:46] <Howmo> It only shows what you beleive if you accept the "coverup".
[12:46] <obany> Nightbird: only the actual even will probably convince howmo and the like
[12:46] <Howmo> I have LOOKED at the info.
[12:46] <Howmo> It says you are wrong.
[12:46] <Howmo> You only have "coverup".
[12:46] <Howmo> "underreporting" is BS.
[12:46] <Nightbird> Howmo.. I doubt the governemnt is going to come right out and say that we will die shortly... even if they knew someone was about to blow us up
[12:47] <Howmo> The charts show NO increase.
[12:47] <Nightbird> Well, I am tired of kicking a dead horse... husband is hollaring for a meal
[12:47] <Howmo> Uh huh.. like I said.. you only have "coverup".
[12:47] <obany> yes trust your goverment trust the charts ...
[12:47] <Nightbird> Believe what you will.. Howmo
[12:47] <obany> !addtimedban howmo 120 2 minuts for you cu
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[12:48] <Nightbird> Kick him once for me.. Obany...LOL
[12:48] <Nightbird> bye everyone..
[12:48] <Nightbird> Love and Light to you, all
[12:48] <obany> it's like talking to a brick wall nightbird
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[12:48] <Himits-away> funny. that is how people think of you obany
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[12:50] <obany> himitsu: so why he lives with his parents, as if others would care about that?
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[12:50] <Himitsu> shows a lot about how much you believe in nancy
[12:50] <obany> ooh sigh ... shows nothing about me
[12:50] <Himitsu> moved to your safe place yet?
[12:50] <Himitsu> yea it does
[12:50] <Himitsu> ooo sigh
[12:50] <obany> soon so .. yes
[12:50] <Himitsu> lol
[12:51] <obany> !ban himitsu
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[12:52] <obany> !ubnban himitsu
[12:52] <obany> !unban himitsu
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[12:52] <obany> you don't even know my family situtation so how dare you to mention my personal life on sci.astro
[12:52] <obany> jerk
[12:52] <Himitsu> jerk coming from you obany, that is funny
[12:53] <Himitsu> what a hoot
[12:53] <obany> yes himitsu ... so you better go there and cancell your posting
[12:53] <Himitsu> not going to happen
[12:53] <Himitsu> I never cancel
[12:53] <obany> or your karma will chage you
[12:53] <Himitsu> lol
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[12:53] <obany> not lol
[12:53] <Himitsu> I have karma to burn, believe me. if there was such a thing
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[12:53] <Himitsu> like you know me obany
[12:54] <obany> it is just not realy nice to say ...as i will move out of my parents house soon anyway so
[12:54] <obany> dickhead
[12:55] <obany> asshole
[12:55] <Himitsu> wow
[12:55] <obany> klootzak
[12:55] <Himitsu> I am so hurt obany
[12:55] <Himitsu> you are cutting me to the bone
[12:55] <Himitsu> I don't think I can bear to be hated by you
[12:55] <Himitsu> oh, the humanity of it all
[12:55] <Himitsu> lol
[12:56] <Himitsu> well, I am going to bed now, so nighty night obany
[12:56] <reticuli> night
[12:56] <Himitsu> have fun hiding in your hole in the ground while the rest of humanity live life and you are eating bugs LOL
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[13:02] <obany> hi antti
[13:02] <S7L> greets
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[13:03] <obany> a little upset about a posting that himitsu did on sci.astro about me ... a nasty posting
[13:04] <S7L> about you, you say?
[13:05] <obany> tes
[13:05] <obany> yes
[13:08] <obany> he could say what he want, but using the fact that i live with my parents in a posting on sci.astro is a bit nasty
[13:09] <obany> especialy since he don't know me at all, personal background etc...
[13:09] <obany> so that basicly sucks
[13:10] <S7L> Mm, I guess I have to agree.
[13:11] <obany> saying that i am like a cult follower .. well okay .. but this thing is well just a bit nasty
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[14:20] <|Malakai|> Lo all
[14:21] <|Malakai|> anythin new happened in the poleshift arena
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[14:35] <obany> |Malakai|: well check the sightings page it's updated again
[14:35] <|Malakai|> cheers
[14:35] <|Malakai|> u got link? :)
[14:36] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[14:42] <|Malakai|> thx
[14:42] <|Malakai|> why are no other astronomers pointing this out
[14:42] <|Malakai|> surely they would have at least had a look
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[23:22] <sonnyslope> how is everyone
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