Session Start: Thu Jan 02 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #Troubled_Times
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[00:26] <Alf> howdy
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[00:42] <Freax> friends?
[00:42] <Freax> no nevermind
[00:42] <Freax> sorry?
[00:47] <Freax> no nevermind
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[00:49] <Freax> sigh
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[00:50] <Guest> awwww, cheer up
[00:50] <|freax|> nah
[00:50] <|freax|> im not allowed right now
[00:51] <Guest> i give you permission, its ok
[00:51] <|freax|> juditness dont
[00:51] <|freax|> although i did say some pretty nasty stuff
[00:51] <|freax|> calling her a bitch and all
[00:52] <|freax|> telling her to f off outta my channel
[00:52] <|freax|> but it was partially within reason
[00:52] <|freax|> i forget it now though
[00:52] <|freax|> she wont talk no more, i can understand
[00:52] <|freax|> and thats why im depressed
[00:52] <|freax|> more like sad really
[00:52] <|freax|> when im depressed i hit the bottle
[00:53] <|freax|> bottle of coke, i dont drink alcohol
[00:53] <|freax|> but if you drink enough it does just the same
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[00:53] <|freax|> narf
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[02:14] <Himitsu> |freax|
[02:14] <Himitsu> you are bck!
[02:14] <Himitsu> back even
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[02:44] <Layberinthius> darwin rocks =D
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[04:24] <Layberinthius> trouble in troubled china
[04:26] <Mr_Odd> err
[04:26] <Mr_Odd> ?
[04:27] <Layberinthius> troubled times troubled china trouble
[04:27] <Layberinthius> big trouble in little china?
[04:28] <Layberinthius> ever heared of it? =P
[04:28] <juditness> kurt russell =x
[04:28] <Layberinthius> yah
[04:28] <juditness> with all those alien chinese guys.
[04:28] <Layberinthius> yep =)
[04:28] <juditness> SUPERNATURAL, I AM TELLING YOU
[04:28] <Layberinthius> i remember watching that as a kid...
[04:29] <Layberinthius> nice truck =)
[04:38] <Layberinthius> first contact...
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[04:56] <planetx> hi
[04:56] <planetx> :)]
[04:56] <planetx> for many years
[04:56] <Mr_Odd> hello
[05:01] <planetx> something new?:)
[05:01] <planetx> is 15 may the mont?:)
[05:01] <planetx> is 15 may the month?:)
[05:03] <Mr_Odd> that is what nancy say
[05:03] <Mr_Odd> s
[05:03] <planetx> and what yousay/
[05:04] <Mr_Odd> i say that nancy is a fraud
[05:05] <Mr_Odd> as would nearly any rational person presented with the factw
[05:05] <Mr_Odd> facts*
[05:05] <planetx> ?
[05:05] <planetx> wow
[05:05] <planetx> you are under power then
[05:05] <planetx> where are the facts
[05:06] <Mr_Odd> everywhere, man
[05:07] <Mr_Odd> facts like how it's impossible for there to be a "red" and "white" "persona" of planet x in the sky..
[05:07] <planetx> give me an example:)
[05:07] <Mr_Odd> or like how the earth's core might be a tiny nuclear fission reactor which would not affec tthe surface if disturbed magnetically..
[05:07] <planetx> where is white and where is red
[05:07] <Mr_Odd> or like how a population living on a planet with 4x the gravity of earth would be very short, not tall
[05:08] <Mr_Odd> the list goes on and on, my frien
[05:08] <Mr_Odd> d
[05:08] <Mr_Odd> shall I continue?
[05:08] <planetx> :)
[05:09] <planetx> yes
[05:09] <planetx> so
[05:09] <planetx> i have a question
[05:10] <Mr_Odd> what?
[05:10] <planetx> when there is earthquake,does magnetic system of the Earth is involved?:)
[05:11] <Mr_Odd> not really..
[05:11] <Mr_Odd> but what is your point?
[05:11] <planetx> :))))))))
[05:11] <Mr_Odd> but what is your point?
[05:11] <planetx> i am physician
[05:11] <planetx> so
[05:11] <planetx> in each earthquakr
[05:11] <planetx> in each earthquake
[05:12] <planetx> magnetic pole is affected
[05:12] <planetx> if there isnt magnetic
[05:12] <planetx> if there isnt magnetic pole
[05:12] <planetx> so,there woudnt be earthquakes
[05:12] <planetx> :)
[05:12] <planetx> so?
[05:12] <Mr_Odd> uh huh...
[05:12] <Mr_Odd> so i suppose that plate tectonics would stop instantly?
[05:13] <planetx> if magnetic poles affects with planetx's magnetic poles what will going to happen
[05:13] <Mr_Odd> and that somehow all volcanism would cease as well?
[05:13] <planetx> yes
[05:13] <Mr_Odd> ..
[05:13] <Mr_Odd> that's absurd.
[05:13] <planetx> hahahahahaha
[05:13] <Mr_Odd> 600,000,000,000 tons of rock doesn't just "stop" moving
[05:13] <Mr_Odd> without incident, especially
[05:13] <planetx> absurd is that you dont know the gravity
[05:13] <Mr_Odd> what?
[05:13] <Mr_Odd> make sense, please =\
[05:14] <planetx> so 600 000 000 ooo tons of rock will not exists if there isnt magnetism:)
[05:14] <Mr_Odd> WHAT?
[05:14] <Mr_Odd> what the hell are you blabbing on about?
[05:15] <Mr_Odd> you're suggesting that the surface of the earth will vanish once we get near planet x?
[05:15] <Mr_Odd> this is ridiculous.
[05:15] <planetx> hahahahaha
[05:15] <planetx> i didnt say that
[05:15] <planetx> read more cearfully
[05:15] <planetx> we have magnetic pole
[05:16] <planetx> i said you whether magnetic pole involves i earthquakes,ididntsay that we dont have magnetic pole
[05:17] <Mr_Odd> mhm...
[05:17] <planetx> :)
[05:17] <planetx> so go on...
[05:18] <Mr_Odd> hold on a sec..
[05:18] <planetx> ok
[05:21] <Mr_Odd> back
[05:21] <Mr_Odd> magnetism has little to do with earthquakes
[05:22] <Mr_Odd> earthquakes are caused by the natural motion of the tectonic plates
[05:22] <planetx> but it envolves
[05:22] <planetx> so say me,what is cunami
[05:22] <Mr_Odd> as two (or more) plates collide, one's elasticity is surpassed and it cracks, which creates a shuddering of the plate, also known as an earthquake
[05:23] <Mr_Odd> actually i shouldn't say "cracks"
[05:23] <Mr_Odd> but you get the idea
[05:23] <planetx> :)
[05:23] <planetx> ok
[05:23] <planetx> what will cause planetx
[05:26] <Mr_Odd> ?
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[05:27] <Mr_Odd> god
[05:27] <Mr_Odd> some people..
[05:28] <Mr_Odd> i'm constantly forced to remember that 50% of people are of below-average intelligence
[05:28] <Layberinthius> hehehe
[05:28] <Mr_Odd> ;)
[05:31] <juditness> *headache*
[05:31] <juditness> =/
[05:31] <Layberinthius> wonder why people dont photograph rain
[05:32] <Mr_Odd> they do
[05:32] <Mr_Odd> check out some of John Edgarton's work
[05:32] <Mr_Odd> among many others
[05:32] <Mr_Odd> it doesn't look like what you think, though ;)
[05:32] <Mr_Odd> they aren't "drops"
[05:32] <Layberinthius> i love the rain
[05:32] <Layberinthius> rain on glass?
[05:32] <Mr_Odd> usually big flat pancakes or mushroom shapes
[05:32] <Mr_Odd> no, rain in the air ;p
[05:32] <Layberinthius> oh
[05:32] <Layberinthius> oh well
[05:33] <Layberinthius> i especially love rain when im inside /just/ and looking through a window outside
[05:33] <Mr_Odd> there's TONS of photos of rain on glass
[05:33] <Layberinthius> when you can hear the patter of the water on the cement down below
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[05:33] <Layberinthius> and only rain that is soft
[05:34] <Layberinthius> and when its cold
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[05:34] <Layberinthius> procrastination at its best? *grins*
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[06:48] <Layberinthius> wtf
[06:48] <Mr_Odd> fuck the what
[06:48] <Layberinthius> z! =)
[06:49] <Layberinthius> heh
[06:49] <[3j]> hi
[06:49] <z> que tal, [3j]
[06:49] <Layberinthius> zee laiiidie outta psp 7
[06:49] <[3j]> sorry been too much away to bother bringing z back
[06:49] <[3j]> but z is back
[06:50] <Mr_Odd> hooray for z!
[06:50] <Mr_Odd> <3 z
[06:50] <Mr_Odd> z <3
[06:50] <z> i heard <3 was that warm fuzzy feeling you get way deep down inside
[06:50] <Layberinthius> yah
[06:50] <Mr_Odd> :D
[06:50] <Layberinthius> rain
[06:50] <juditness> =x
[06:50] <Layberinthius> rain is that warm fuzzy feeling Layberinthius gets whenever he feels perfect
[06:51] <Layberinthius> rai
[06:51] <Layberinthius> n
[06:51] <Layberinthius> rain
[06:51] <Layberinthius> z, rain is that warm fuzzy feeling Layberinthius gets whenever he feels perfect
[06:51] <z> i already had it that way, Layberinthius.
[06:51] <Layberinthius> rain
[06:51] <Layberinthius> rain?
[06:51] <z> somebody said rain was that warm fuzzy feeling Layberinthius gets whenever he feels perfect
[06:51] <Layberinthius> darf
[06:52] <Mr_Odd> rofl
[06:54] <raincity> Have you guys noticed that this channel has died out over the last couple weeks.
[06:54] <raincity> I wonder what happened.
[06:55] <Layberinthius> i arrived *Grins*
[06:55] <Mr_Odd> ha
[06:56] <raincity> I guess the non-believers have run out of steam?
[06:57] <Layberinthius> more like the other way around
[06:57] <Mr_Odd> :D
[06:57] <Layberinthius> the believers ran outta hot air =)
[06:58] <Layberinthius> jeez, this channel really is dead
[06:58] <Layberinthius> i mean i even chuckled at that one..
[06:59] <Mr_Odd> ha
[06:59] <Layberinthius> damn
[07:00] <Layberinthius> usually 'hot-air' is a term for 'empty-facts'
[07:00] <Himitsu> hey
[07:00] <Layberinthius> maybe its only relavant to australian genes..
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[07:40] <Layberinthius> Wooooo
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[07:41] <Himitsu> wooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[07:45] <Layberinthius> woooooooooooooooooooooo
[07:45] <Layberinthius> megadeath is ok =)
[07:47] <Himitsu> woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[07:47] <Himitsu> yeah it is
[07:47] <Layberinthius> ive /really/ gotta change the colours in windows =P
[07:47] <Layberinthius> but i cant stand white!
[07:48] <Layberinthius> everything's gotta be black or a dark colour
[07:48] <Himitsu> fixed your computer I guess then
[07:48] <Layberinthius> yup
[07:48] <Layberinthius> my fiend lent me a psu
[07:48] <Himitsu> still athlon? was the cpu smoked?
[07:48] <Layberinthius> twas the psu
[07:48] <Layberinthius> it /died/
[07:48] <Himitsu> damn
[07:48] <Himitsu> that sucks
[07:48] <Himitsu> sorry to hear it
[07:49] <Layberinthius> sure it activated when i sent it the signal to start
[07:49] <Layberinthius> but no 5.0 volt line =P
[07:49] <Layberinthius> im guessing a blown resistor in the 5 volt line
[07:49] <Himitsu> did you get a faster cpu?
[07:49] <Layberinthius> hell no =P
[07:49] <Layberinthius> i couldnt get one of those until at least a few more months
[07:49] <Himitsu> slower?
[07:49] <Himitsu> same?
[07:49] <Layberinthius> the cpu is still brain damaged though
[07:50] <Layberinthius> same cpu
[07:50] <Himitsu> runs messed up still?
[07:50] <Layberinthius> yeah sort of
[07:50] <Layberinthius> quake 3 arena will never be the same =P
[07:50] <Himitsu> lol
[07:50] <Layberinthius> wanna see a pic of what it looks like in the game?
[07:50] <Himitsu> maybe athlons just aren't your game
[07:50] <Layberinthius> the /problem/
[07:51] <Layberinthius> athlons were never my game
[07:51] <Layberinthius> before this i used intel full time
[07:51] <Layberinthius> i tried amd on a test basis
[07:51] <Layberinthius> and got stuck financially just fucking keeping a running system up
[07:51] <Himitsu> time to go back then I guess
[07:52] <Jurian> hmm, weird
[07:52] <Jurian> my AMD is working perfectly
[07:52] <Jurian> never had any problems :)
[07:52] <Layberinthius> because i couldnt and still cant afford a new mainboard/cpu/ram to convert back so ive been trying to fix the problems i have
[07:52] <Layberinthius> of course
[07:52] <Layberinthius> everyone but mines is 'working perfectly'
[07:52] <Himitsu> my amd runs like a raped date
[07:52] <Himitsu> heheh
[07:52] <Layberinthius> mainly because you all went out and bought $300 mainboards
[07:52] <Layberinthius> where i bought a $80 mainboard
[07:52] <Himitsu> not me
[07:52] <Jurian> hehe
[07:53] <Jurian> I have an abit k7t board
[07:53] <Himitsu> mine was about 14,000 yen
[07:53] <Jurian> nothing special :p
[07:53] <Himitsu> or 110 bucks
[07:53] <Layberinthius> i have an ECS k7s5a mainboard, traded in from a k7vza mainboard
[07:53] <Layberinthius> the k7vza was pernamently locked at 100mhz fsb
[07:54] <Layberinthius> and my athlon 1gig didnt like being at 750..
[07:54] <Layberinthius> i want a celeron =(
[07:54] <Layberinthius> have to wait till the house is sold
[07:54] <Himitsu> I want a 25inch telescope
[07:55] <Himitsu> time for the gimp
[07:55] <Layberinthius> its been doing that eversince i bought the motherboard
[07:56] <Layberinthius> and yet, ive replaced every component of the computer
[07:56] <Layberinthius> so it /MUST/ be the mainboard, floppy ECS hardware
[07:57] <Mr_Odd> it might just be a short on the case..
[07:57] <Mr_Odd> i had a short that did all sorts of weird things in this comp
[07:57] <Mr_Odd> the keyboard wouldn't work except on like every 4th boot...
[07:57] <Mr_Odd> strange IDE errors...
[07:57] <Mr_Odd> etc.
[07:58] <Layberinthius> hehe
[07:58] <Mr_Odd> </wishful thinking>
[07:58] <Layberinthius> i havent gotten things as serious as that /anymore/
[07:58] <Layberinthius> most of the connectors on this case are plastic shit anyway
[07:58] <Layberinthius> clip on to the chassis
[07:58] <Mr_Odd> heh
[07:58] <Layberinthius> except for 1
[07:59] <Himitsu> what is a tga file?
[07:59] <Himitsu> graphics?
[07:59] <z> graphics are ok
[07:59] <Himitsu> thanks z
[07:59] <Himitsu> lol
[08:00] <Mr_Odd> yes, tagged graphics somethingorother
[08:00] <Himitsu> k
[08:00] <Himitsu> ty
[08:00] <Layberinthius> hehe
[08:00] <Layberinthius> Truvision Targa
[08:01] <Mr_Odd> yeah that's it
[08:01] <Himitsu> that is a wierd view
[08:01] <Himitsu> what arew the big black squares?
[08:01] <Layberinthius> those are where the problem is!
[08:01] <Layberinthius> that is the problem
[08:01] <Jurian> Increasing the influence of planet CAPS:
[08:01] <Jurian> Cost: : 38,703,189
[08:01] <Jurian> Added points: 4,973,987
[08:01] <Layberinthius> throughout /every/ game i play i get missing textures
[08:01] <Jurian> :D
[08:01] <Layberinthius> rofl
[08:01] <Layberinthius> Jurian: stop spending so ludicrously =D
[08:02] <Himitsu> lol
[08:02] <Layberinthius> damn thats a lot =)
[08:02] <Jurian> Daily profit
[08:02] <Jurian> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[08:02] <Jurian> 548810096
[08:02] <Jurian> :p
[08:02] <Layberinthius> so wheres my ricky replacement planet?
[08:02] <Layberinthius> ahh ok cant give it to me
[08:02] <Layberinthius> Mr_Odd
[08:02] <Layberinthius> can you recieve dcc?
[08:03] <Jurian> can't give it untill you're in pol*
[08:03] <Mr_Odd> yeah, i can
[08:04] <Layberinthius> dont worry it'll speed up
[08:05] <Mr_Odd> k :)
[08:05] <Jurian> hrm, what game is that? looks gay :p
[08:05] <Layberinthius> rofl
[08:05] <Layberinthius> quake 3 arena
[08:05] <Jurian> figures ;p
[08:05] <Layberinthius> mmm
[08:05] <Layberinthius> its a bitch =)
[08:07] <Layberinthius> not bad for dialup hey Mr_Odd? =D
[08:09] <Himitsu> looks like shit
[08:09] <Mr_Odd> not one bit, freax :D
[08:09] <Layberinthius> =P
[08:09] <Layberinthius> yep
[08:09] <Layberinthius> those lines across the background are /supposed/ to be black
[08:09] <Mr_Odd> hahahaha
[08:09] <Mr_Odd> shootin rockets in the holodeck again, freax?
[08:10] <Layberinthius> yep
[08:10] <Layberinthius> what have i walked into a quake 3 arena free zone!?!!??
[08:10] <Layberinthius> q3a is the biggest thing since sliced angel cake over here and america
[08:10] <Himitsu> it does look like the holodeck
[08:11] <Layberinthius> almost /everyone/ has played it, bar gullible linux employed server professionals
[08:11] <Himitsu> q3a sucks ass
[08:11] <Himitsu> UT rocks
[08:11] <Layberinthius> you mean UT3 =)
[08:11] <Himitsu> is it out yet?
[08:11] <Layberinthius> think so...
[08:11] <Himitsu> hmmm
[08:11] <Mr_Odd> 2003 has been out for a while
[08:12] <Himitsu> schwing
[08:12] <Layberinthius> hehe
[08:12] <Layberinthius> yoink
[08:12] * Himitsu whips out his Visa card...
[08:12] <Layberinthius> tcha chiing
[08:12] <Himitsu> spamazon.com baby
[08:12] <Layberinthius> trrt titt
[08:14] <Himitsu> woohoo it is out
[08:16] <Layberinthius> quite
[08:16] <Layberinthius> what kind of card do you have?
[08:16] <Mr_Odd> video?
[08:16] <Layberinthius> mmm
[08:16] <Mr_Odd> NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
[08:16] <Layberinthius> damn
[08:16] <Mr_Odd> ownt. ;p
[08:16] <Layberinthius> shouldnt have asked
[08:16] <Mr_Odd> :DDDD
[08:16] <Layberinthius> graphics card[NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400]
[08:17] <Layberinthius> this thing aint an overclocker =P
[08:17] <Layberinthius> 50mhz overclock on both ends and only a 6fps increase
[08:17] <Layberinthius> runs sof2 at full though =)
[08:18] <Layberinthius> Himitsu?
[08:18] <z> Himitsu is pleased to report that my local irritant J.William Dell has been awarded,
[08:18] <Layberinthius> z, go home and rethink you're life
[08:18] <z> Layberinthius: excuse me?
[08:18] <Himitsu> lol
[08:18] <Himitsu> whats up?
[08:18] <Layberinthius> what kind of card do you have?
[08:19] <Himitsu> geforce 2 I think
[08:19] <Layberinthius> ok
[08:19] <Layberinthius> i was dreaming of owning a geforce 2 card not 13 months back =D
[08:19] <Himitsu> geforce 2 Ti
[08:19] <Himitsu> lol
[08:19] <Himitsu> it works
[08:19] <Layberinthius> yep =)
[08:20] <Himitsu> actually, that is the same card in all 3 machines
[08:20] <Layberinthius> had the previous tnt2 for 3 years before that =)
[08:20] <Himitsu> Jurian: do you know of any tv tuner cards that work with Linux?
[08:21] <Layberinthius> yeah, the most expensive one
[08:21] <Mr_Odd> heh, before this 4600, I was using an old Diamond Viper 7770
[08:21] <Layberinthius> ooh
[08:21] <Himitsu> lol
[08:21] <Himitsu> time for the gimp again
[08:21] <Layberinthius> before the tnt2 i was using a SiS 6326 4mb without tv-out
[08:22] <Himitsu> I need a card with tv in
[08:22] <Layberinthius> AGP chipset modified for PCI pinouts =)
[08:22] <Layberinthius> hehe
[08:22] <Himitsu> I found a realtime ccd camera for telescopes I want to get
[08:22] <Jurian> hmm
[08:22] <Layberinthius> who dont :-)
[08:22] <Himitsu> but it has to work with linux
[08:22] <Layberinthius> ooh
[08:22] <Jurian> Himitsu: download the latest kernel, and have a look at the supported cards :p
[08:22] <Layberinthius> you religious freak
[08:22] <Jurian> then find one of those in a shop :p
[08:23] <Himitsu> I need to download that thing anyway
[08:23] <Himitsu> been putting it off
[08:23] <Himitsu> don't want to let my uptime get too high though
[08:23] <Himitsu> hehe
[08:23] * Layberinthius shivvers when he gets near linux, damn penguins cold as anything...
[08:23] <Jurian> eh?
[08:23] <Jurian> FYI, *most* penguins don't even like the cold
[08:23] <Layberinthius> yeah, be careful you might pop a capacitor...
[08:24] <Jurian> and most do not live on the poles :p
[08:24] <Layberinthius> those green caps really pop =)
[08:24] <Himitsu> Emperor penguins sure seem to like it
[08:24] <Layberinthius> really
[08:24] <Layberinthius> well ill be sure to ask them for a manual next time i see them in australia...
[08:24] <Mr_Odd> penguins are dying really fast the last couple years =\
[08:24] <Jurian> lol
[08:24] <Mr_Odd> climate change and overfishing ;(
[08:25] <Jurian> yeah, poor bastards :(
[08:25] <Layberinthius> its that damn acid thing again
[08:25] <Layberinthius> causing all the global warming...
[08:25] <Himitsu> oh yeah baby, BFG
[08:25] <Jurian> yeah, that evil di-hydro-mono-oxide stuff
[08:25] <Himitsu> lol
[08:25] <Layberinthius> *Grins*
[08:25] <Mr_Odd> haha
[08:26] <Layberinthius> i should have never upgraded to quake 3 arena 1.31
[08:26] <Layberinthius> i miss haste =(
[08:29] <Himitsu> are you using 2.4.20 Jurian?
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[08:29] <Layberinthius> ooh high kernel versions *Grins*
[08:29] <Jurian> 2.4.19 I think
[08:29] <Jurian> can't be arsed to check ;p
[08:29] * Layberinthius pats his 2.2.14-12
[08:30] <Himitsu> 2.2 ack
[08:30] <Layberinthius> hairball?
[08:31] <Himitsu> 2.2 is
[08:31] <Layberinthius> i like to think of it more as a collectable than obsolete
[08:32] <Layberinthius> those fps rates are when i had antialias at 4x on
[08:32] <Layberinthius> the pic i just sent you had it on
[08:32] <Layberinthius> any others were with it off
[08:33] * Mr_Odd <3 4x antialiasing
[08:33] <Layberinthius> [03:35] [Himitsu VERSION reply]: xchat 1.8.9 Linux 2.4.18-3smp [i686/451MH
[08:33] <Layberinthius> z/SMP]
[08:34] <Layberinthius> mmm
[08:34] <Layberinthius> you can afford to you lucky bastard =D
[08:34] <Himitsu> I only work to keep me in glass and eyepieces
[08:34] <Layberinthius> huh?
[08:35] <Himitsu> support my telescope habit
[08:35] <Layberinthius> ahhh
[08:35] <Layberinthius> i personally use computers as quite literally my life
[08:35] <Layberinthius> which is disturbing
[08:35] <Layberinthius> thats nice that you've classed computers as a work machine...
[08:35] <Himitsu> I have had them all my life, but now they are just a tool more than anything
[08:35] <Himitsu> to drive the scope
[08:36] <Himitsu> heh
[08:36] <Layberinthius> i can probably never class computers as a mere tool
[08:36] <Layberinthius> have you ever had q3a running under linux?
[08:36] <Himitsu> no, but I think I had unreal under it
[08:36] <Layberinthius> meh
[08:36] <Himitsu> my video card sucked, so I didn't keep trying
[08:37] <Layberinthius> mmm
[08:37] <Himitsu> it was a bad card for ut
[08:37] <Himitsu> hehe
[08:37] <Layberinthius> =P
[08:37] <Layberinthius> linux sucks for me, cause i have problems with the height of this table
[08:37] <Layberinthius> makes me type abnormally
[08:37] <Himitsu> you just need to get a better kernel that 2.2
[08:37] <Layberinthius> ive gotta work something out soon or ill have arthritis of the hands soon =P
[08:38] <Layberinthius> yeah, all ive got to do is install 2.4 kernel from dselect..
[08:38] <Layberinthius> my soundcard on the other hand is a real bitch
[08:38] <Layberinthius> everything else i can live with
[08:38] <Himitsu> hmm
[08:39] <Himitsu> well, I know jack about debian
[08:39] <Layberinthius> dosent matter much, its still a bitch under any OS
[08:39] <Layberinthius> except window
[08:39] <Layberinthius> s
[08:40] <Layberinthius> hmm
[08:40] <Himitsu> bah, screw windows
[08:40] <Layberinthius> my current soundcard could go into the router...
[08:40] <Layberinthius> run windows 98 on that
[08:40] <Layberinthius> and run linux on the workspacion
[08:40] <Layberinthius> till such times as i get sound working on the workspacion
[08:40] * Jurian is now known as JurAFK
[08:40] <Layberinthius> yeah, that'll keep me happy
[08:41] <Layberinthius> ill do that tomorrow
[08:41] <Layberinthius> so...
[08:41] <Layberinthius> whats new?
[08:41] <z> new is unsure /scared that it isn't whole true
[08:41] <Himitsu> could always try another version of linux
[08:41] <Himitsu> rh or mandrake
[08:41] <Layberinthius> yes, yes i could
[08:41] <Layberinthius> however i like debian =P
[08:42] <Himitsu> you like punishment
[08:42] <Layberinthius> mwahahhahaa
[08:42] <Layberinthius> how did you know =D
[08:42] <Himitsu> debian
[08:42] <Himitsu> hehe
[08:42] <Layberinthius> have you got mandrake?
[08:43] <Layberinthius> wouldnt mind a cheap post
[08:43] <Himitsu> I have it I think
[08:43] <Layberinthius> got some change
[08:43] <Himitsu> I have the isos anyway
[08:43] <Layberinthius> hehe
[08:43] <Himitsu> might still have it on cd
[08:43] <Himitsu> se
[08:44] <Himitsu> sec
[08:44] <Layberinthius> why the fuck is the linux xwindows taskbar so small?
[08:45] <Layberinthius> i cant open jack shit without taking up 20% screen space with just a few file managers and a couple of apps
[08:47] <Himitsu> I have the cds
[08:47] <Layberinthius> is it the latest/2nd latest?
[08:47] <Himitsu> mandrake? or rh?
[08:47] <Layberinthius> man
[08:47] <Himitsu> rh latest is 8.0
[08:47] <Himitsu> mandrake is 9.0
[08:47] <Layberinthius> whoops
[08:47] <Layberinthius> shouldnt say that =-D
[08:48] <Layberinthius> # of cd's for mand?
[08:48] <Himitsu> might have shifted them over to the wifes machine, I'll scan there
[08:48] <Himitsu> not sure
[08:48] <Himitsu> 4 or 3
[08:48] <Layberinthius> k
[08:48] <Layberinthius> mind if i give you a week
[08:48] <Layberinthius> ive got the cash
[08:48] <Layberinthius> just dont have the time to visit the bank =P
[08:48] <Himitsu> depends on how much it costs to send
[08:49] <Himitsu> if it isn't much, don't worry about it
[08:49] <Layberinthius> mmm, probably $5
[08:49] <Layberinthius> AUD
[08:49] <Himitsu> ooo
[08:49] <Himitsu> found the isos
[08:49] <Himitsu> 3 of them
[08:49] <Layberinthius> unless you send each cd in single letter envelopes =P
[08:49] <Layberinthius> 40cents each =)
[08:49] <Himitsu> nah, I have one of those cd mailers sitting around doing jack
[08:50] <Layberinthius> ooh nice
[08:50] <Layberinthius> so how will it be sent?
[08:51] <Himitsu> hmmm
[08:51] <Layberinthius> err
[08:51] <Layberinthius> hehe
[08:51] <Layberinthius> mail of course
[08:51] <Himitsu> lol
[08:51] <Himitsu> stork
[08:51] <Layberinthius> no no, dork =)
[08:51] <Himitsu> lol
[08:51] <Layberinthius> how much does it cost per cd?
[08:51] <Himitsu> to send?
[08:51] <Layberinthius> 50cents per cd around here
[08:51] <Himitsu> don't worry about it
[08:52] <Layberinthius> no to take into account of profitability and cost to you
[08:52] <Layberinthius> meh?
[08:52] <Layberinthius> freebie!?!?
[08:52] <Himitsu> lol
[08:52] <Himitsu> think so
[08:52] <Himitsu> shouldn't cost much
[08:52] <Layberinthius> narf
[08:52] <Himitsu> I already downloaded them
[08:52] * Layberinthius quicky finds his address..
[08:52] <Himitsu> that is the hardest part
[08:52] <Himitsu> lol
[08:52] * Layberinthius runs down the street
[08:53] <Layberinthius> okilie dokilie
[08:53] <Layberinthius> address via encrypted in blowfish?
[08:54] <Himitsu> sure
[08:54] <Himitsu> let me get it running
[08:54] <Layberinthius> hehe
[08:54] <Mr_Odd> what key are we using these days, anywho?
[08:54] <Mr_Odd> [C]: is this it?
[08:54] <Mr_Odd> [C]: prolly not, right?
[08:54] <Layberinthius> hehe
[08:54] <Layberinthius> aint working
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[08:56] <Layberinthius> woot
[08:57] <loitus> w00t
[08:57] <Layberinthius> l00t
[08:57] <loitus> p00p
[08:58] <Layberinthius> l 0 0 t  :) /\   < 0 p h t
[08:58] <Himitsu> got it
[08:58] <Layberinthius> okilie dokilie
[08:58] <Layberinthius> and dont mind the bombs, i wont be here in 2months =P
[08:59] <Himitsu> I'll try and send them saturday. I need to buy some blanks tomorrow anyway
[08:59] <Himitsu> bombs?
[08:59] <Himitsu> lol
[08:59] * Layberinthius feels scanned by the australian government...
[08:59] <Layberinthius> no wait, they couldnt do shit anyway =P
[09:00] <Layberinthius> ok
[09:00] <loitus> mmm bombs
[09:00] <Layberinthius> | Thank  You |
[09:00] <Layberinthius> =D
[09:01] * Layberinthius forces some blank cd-r's into the fax machine
[09:01] <Himitsu> no problem
[09:01] <loitus> www.redkore.com
[09:01] <loitus> ;)
[09:01] <Himitsu> just don't tell jurian
[09:02] <Himitsu> or he'll get pissed!
[09:02] <Layberinthius> mmm, he'd get pissed about me using mand
[09:02] <Himitsu> yep
[09:02] <Himitsu> and mad at me for sending it
[09:02] <Layberinthius> hehe
[09:02] <Himitsu> but it is a good stepping stone
[09:02] <Layberinthius> yep
[09:02] <Layberinthius> thats what i want it for, purpously..
[09:03] <Layberinthius> ill give a copy to my friend too
[09:03] <Himitsu> most important thing is to get off the windows crack
[09:03] <Layberinthius> he /badly/ wants into linux
[09:03] <Layberinthius> rofl
[09:03] <loitus> http://www.maf-mand.com/
[09:04] * Layberinthius watches as loitus runs rampant around the room telling everyone about his new fandangal websites
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[09:04] <Layberinthius> hmm, reckon i should scan my face?
[09:05] <loitus> www.layberinthiuscock.com
[09:05] <Layberinthius> hey that gives me an idea
[09:06] * loitus takes the idea back
[09:06] <Layberinthius> woot
[09:06] <Layberinthius> mandrake, its better than a book!
[09:07] <Layberinthius> too bad if you were against hardcopy and wanted to learn linux fast =P
[09:13] <loitus> http://www.cool-jokes.com/html/Linux-Inside.html
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[09:14] <Layberinthius> oo
[09:14] <Layberinthius> h
[09:15] <Layberinthius> hahaha
[09:15] <Layberinthius> LOL
[09:16] <Layberinthius> guess that laptop wasnt linux compatible =)
[09:16] <loitus> heh
[09:16] <Layberinthius> oh well at least its ready for those long flights
[09:19] <Himitsu> laptops are a bitch to get working sometimes with linux
[09:19] <Himitsu> but I got mine to work and it was a compaq
[09:19] <Himitsu> in spite of its best efforts to stop me
[09:19] <Layberinthius> mmm
[09:19] <Layberinthius> good for you =D
[09:19] <Himitsu> was a battle
[09:19] <Layberinthius> i got linux working on a compaq too
[09:20] <loitus> Maybe MS should use one of these penguin predators http://users.capu.net/~kwelch/pp/predators/mammals.html as their mascot
[09:20] <Layberinthius> compaq 386 LT 25
[09:20] <Himitsu> lol
[09:20] <Himitsu> Ms is dumb enough to use a polar bear as their preditor
[09:21] <Himitsu> predator
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[09:22] <Layberinthius> http://www.cool-jokes.com/html/Interesting-Cop-Car.html
[09:22] <Layberinthius> anyone know what kind of car that is?
[09:22] <loitus> Looks like a rolls royce maybe
[09:23] <Layberinthius> i think its a ford or something
[09:23] <Layberinthius> mmm
[09:23] <Layberinthius> possible
[09:23] <Layberinthius> early of course
[09:23] <Layberinthius> 1930s
[09:23] <Layberinthius> err
[09:23] <Layberinthius> 1930-40-50's
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[09:24] <Himitsu> excalibur
[09:24] <Himitsu> that is the kind of car I think
[09:24] <Layberinthius> excalibur?
[09:25] <Layberinthius> heh
[09:25] <Layberinthius> my father has one upstairs
[09:25] <Layberinthius> a model car of course =P
[09:25] <loitus> In a stone?
[09:25] <Layberinthius> yeah =)
[09:25] <Layberinthius> might take a looksie
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[09:29] <Layberinthius> thanks Himitsu
[09:29] <Layberinthius> once more =)
[09:29] <Himitsu> no problem
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[09:29] <Himitsu> I'll try and get them out on saturday
[09:29] <Himitsu> tomorrow will be rough, bad weather tomorrow
[09:30] <Layberinthius> mmmm
[09:30] <Himitsu> Soooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuul traaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin
[09:30] <Layberinthius> like bad weather < :-D
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[09:30] <Himitsu> snow and sleet
[09:30] <Himitsu> ice
[09:30] <Himitsu> going to suck
[09:30] <Himitsu> hehe
[09:30] * Layberinthius listens to Oscar Peterson - Night Train
[09:30] <Layberinthius> hehe
[09:31] * Himitsu listens to The Doors - This is the End
[09:32] * Layberinthius listens to Blue Six - Conga Lounge Mix
[09:33] * Layberinthius listens to Flatliners - Numero Ocho
[09:33] <Layberinthius> eew
[09:34] * Layberinthius listens to Marduk - Scorched Earth
[09:34] <Layberinthius> w000
[09:34] <Himitsu> brb
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[09:37] <Layberinthius> wb
[09:37] <Himitsu> ty!
[09:37] <Layberinthius> nP!
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[09:41] * freax listens to weird al yankovic - livin' la vida yoda
[09:41] <freax> i /dont/ think so
[09:41] * freax listens to [Marilyn Manson] - Long Hard Road Out of Hell
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[09:45] <Himitsu> brb
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[09:56] <Himitsu> sometimes linux is just wierd
[09:56] <Himitsu> figures it is a clone of unix
[09:56] <Himitsu> unix and lsd are the only 2 things that come out of berekley
[09:56] <Himitsu> and hippies
[09:57] <Layberinthius> heheheh
[09:57] <Layberinthius> i can see why its so hard to use then
[09:57] <Soul_Train> haha
[09:57] <Layberinthius> you have to be stoned to understand the fucking commands
[09:58] <Himitsu> not saying anything bad about linus, but he must use drugs
[09:58] <Soul_Train> lol
[09:58] <Layberinthius> and their syntax
[09:58] <Layberinthius> (es)
[09:58] <Himitsu> I know, and I can't use drugs anymore
[09:58] <Himitsu> so I'll never be good at linux
[09:58] <Himitsu> hehe
[09:58] <Layberinthius> hehe =P
[09:58] <Layberinthius> good!
[09:58] <Layberinthius> better to be like me than be dead...
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[09:59] <Otto> Hello?
[09:59] <Himitsu> I'll never go back to windows
[09:59] <Himitsu> hi!
[09:59] <Otto> Thanks
[09:59] <Himitsu> yw
[09:59] <Layberinthius> unless windows takes over and annihilates linux...
[09:59] <Layberinthius> *Shock*
[09:59] <Otto> New here - saw this on ZT
[10:00] <Himitsu> hard to kill something that isn't a business
[10:00] <Himitsu> brb
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[10:00] <Layberinthius> oh isnt that hard
[10:00] <Layberinthius> you just kill the authour...
[10:00] <Layberinthius> to put it blunt
[10:01] <Layberinthius> bill gates might lace linus'es food with water..
[10:01] <Otto> Is this the right place?  I'm sorta freaked out here
[10:01] * Layberinthius listens to kmfdm - mortal kombat theme
[10:01] <Layberinthius> hehehe
[10:01] <Layberinthius> yeah
[10:02] <Layberinthius> it is
[10:02] <Soul_Train> yep
[10:02] <Layberinthius> we're just regulars, who come along every now and again
[10:02] <Soul_Train> nibiru is coming!
[10:02] <Otto> It's hard to find out what is true and what isn't
[10:02] <Soul_Train> run for your life!
[10:02] <Layberinthius> lol
[10:02] <Otto> ha, ha - doubt running would help.
[10:02] <Soul_Train> well it's good exercise
[10:02] <Layberinthius> run fast enough you could run off the planet...
[10:03] <Himitsu> use your brain and apply common sense
[10:03] <Himitsu> you can figure it out
[10:03] <Otto> True
[10:03] <Himitsu> as yourself a few questions
[10:03] <Otto> I saw all this in my dreams a few weeks ago.  wow.
[10:03] <Himitsu> is it likely that a woman was abducted by aliens and now communicates with the,?
[10:03] <Soul_Train> what did you see?
[10:03] <Himitsu> them?
[10:03] <Layberinthius> i dont think ass has any thing to do with what he needs...
[10:04] <Otto> I was in a tall building somewhere near Australia?
[10:04] <Soul_Train> and did you have the dream before or after reading about this whole thing?
[10:04] <Layberinthius> in sydney by any chance?
[10:04] <Otto> BEFORE - that's why I'm freaked
[10:04] <Himitsu> is it likely that all the astronomers in the world are sitting on a conspiracy?
[10:04] <Layberinthius> did you watch MTV at all?
[10:04] <Otto> I'm not sure.
[10:04] <Otto>  No I hate mtv
[10:04] <Otto> So I'm in what looks like a hotel room withother people
[10:04] <Layberinthius> cause the Mission impossible 2 metallica song has a sort of building like armogeddon wave like film clip in it =)
[10:05] <Layberinthius> actually
[10:05] <Otto> We are all very nervous and looking out the window at a storm
[10:05] <Layberinthius> ive had dreams of the earth cracking beneath my feet all my young life
[10:05] <Layberinthius> same street
[10:05] <Layberinthius> riding the bike
[10:05] <Otto> There were flashes of lightening and thunder
[10:05] <Layberinthius> yep lightning thunder
[10:05] <Layberinthius> they were coming from the east, where the sea is
[10:05] <Layberinthius> then the tides rolled in
[10:05] <Layberinthius> same thing
[10:05] <Layberinthius> over and over
[10:05] <Otto> Then I look out the window and the
[10:05] <Layberinthius> is it the same for you?
[10:06] <Otto> clouds zoom by and part
[10:06] <Otto> (No I've never seen the water part.)
[10:06] <Layberinthius> yeah, i made the water part up!
[10:06] <Layberinthius> as a proof measure!!!
[10:06] <Layberinthius> fuck
[10:06] <Layberinthius> =P
[10:06] <Otto> when I see that I know a great wind force is coming
[10:06] <Soul_Train> lol
[10:06] <Layberinthius> we have the same sort of dream
[10:07] <Otto> I drop to the floor and pray that I'll be okay and that it won't hurt
[10:07] <Otto> I know that we couldn't survive
[10:07] <Layberinthius> i ride the bike up to the oval park not too far away to see if i can make it to the marina
[10:07] <Otto> Happily I don't feel pain
[10:07] <Layberinthius> i find that its blocked by earthquake cracks and peddle back, then the earth opens up in my home street and i die
[10:08] <Otto> It just goes dark and the last thought I had was that I love god
[10:08] <Layberinthius> yep, love got shit too
[10:08] <Otto> I wonder if this means I'm a gonner?
[10:08] <Layberinthius> well considering you had the dream in the first place
[10:09] <Layberinthius> it is obviously a warning inwhich you can take heed and avoid
[10:09] <Otto> That's what I feel
[10:09] <Layberinthius> if you couldnt avoid death you wouldnt have a dream
[10:09] <Otto> Seems logical
[10:09] <Himitsu> better pack up and head for the hills
[10:09] <Otto> I think I'm in a possibly safe area...but not sure yet.
[10:10] <Himitsu> as long as you are on earth, you are safe from planet x
[10:10] <Otto> What do you mean?
[10:10] <z> i think do you mean is it okay or is it possible?
[10:10] <Layberinthius> >> hitting you in the head
[10:10] <Himitsu> meaning that it isn't there, and it isn't coming
[10:10] <Himitsu> that nancy doesn't talk to aliens
[10:11] <Otto> Sure that is possible
[10:11] <Himitsu> possible?
[10:11] <Himitsu> certain
[10:11] <Himitsu> calling channeling with aliens impossible is more like it
[10:11] <Layberinthius> at least we have an open mind =P
[10:11] <Otto> So how do you dismiss all the other news...
[10:11] <Layberinthius> >> at hand
[10:11] <Himitsu> I sure do, about things that are possible
[10:12] <Himitsu> what other news?
[10:12] * Layberinthius listens to Marilyn Manson - Disposable Teens
[10:12] <Otto> nevermind H
[10:12] <Himitsu> seriously, what other news?
[10:12] <Otto> The stuff in the news about the poles, shape of the earth, etc
[10:13] <Layberinthius> heh, ive heared nothing
[10:13] <Himitsu> nancy is saying that px is going to cause the earth to stop rotating and turn physically over
[10:13] <Himitsu> the news is talking about the magnetic poles with move a little every year
[10:13] <Himitsu> big difference
[10:13] <Otto> I don't know that for sure but there is some scary stuff in the news lately
[10:13] <Otto> ever listen to npr?
[10:14] <Layberinthius> impossible even for jupiter and its moons
[10:14] <Himitsu> every morning
[10:14] <Layberinthius> err saturn...
[10:14] <Himitsu> but of course news scares you
[10:14] <Himitsu> it sells
[10:14] <Layberinthius> hehe, got that fkn right!
[10:14] <Himitsu> if it wasn't sensational and exciting, nobody would watch it
[10:14] <Otto> so what do you believe?
[10:14] <Layberinthius> bull =P
[10:14] <Himitsu> me?
[10:14] <z> well, Himitsu is pleased to report that my local irritant J.William Dell has been awarded,
[10:15] <Himitsu> I believe in science and reason
[10:15] <Himitsu> not in channeling with aliens
[10:15] * Layberinthius listens to Marilyn Manson - Diamonds & Pollen
[10:15] <Himitsu> or mythical planets that defy the laws of physics
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[10:15] <Soul_Train> physics, optics, magnetism... you name it, nibiru defies it ;p
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[10:15] <Himitsu> but then again, being an astronomer, that is just me
[10:16] <Layberinthius> i vouche for that
[10:16] <Otto> So you believe nothing is going to happen this year?
[10:16] <Layberinthius> it dosent matter what we believe right now =P
[10:16] <Himitsu> nothing? that is a broad question, but px and aliens? no
[10:16] <Himitsu> I know it isn't going to happen
[10:16] <Layberinthius> we're all so damn close to the-golden-time that no one should care =P
[10:17] <DRGREEN> So Sirotka, Enki, Anu's son, landed on earth, to start his miningoperations.
[10:17] <Layberinthius> the only reason for believing and dis-believing is that people eventually get discharged from the room when they are required to say something quite important and or useful
[10:17] <Himitsu> that's the truth
[10:17] <Otto> what?
[10:18] <Soul_Train> werd.
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[10:18] <Himitsu> meaning that if I sit here long enough trying to teach you about astronomy and the fallacies of px, I'll get kicked
[10:19] <Otto> Oh, I see
[10:19] <Soul_Train> no, not from here
[10:19] <Soul_Train> they're pretty good about that
[10:19] <Soul_Train> except obany ;x
[10:19] <Himitsu> always from here
[10:19] <Himitsu> exactly
[10:19] <Soul_Train> just from #psd
[10:19] <Layberinthius> mmm
[10:19] <Himitsu> he is going to wear out his ! key for me
[10:19] <Layberinthius> biased in every way =P
[10:19] <Layberinthius> =D
[10:19] <Himitsu> well, it is his channel
[10:19] <Layberinthius> that'd be hard...few million clicks...
[10:19] <Himitsu> I'm trying!
[10:19] <Layberinthius> fun =)
[10:20] * Sirotka33 is now known as CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu
[10:20] <Otto> So H & L, why would you be hanging out here?  To make fun of worried people?
[10:20] <Himitsu> no
[10:20] <Layberinthius> nope
[10:20] <Layberinthius> to listen...
[10:20] <Himitsu> I am not here to make fun of you Otto, not in the least
[10:20] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> I have been visited by the zeta's
[10:20] <Soul_Train> i'm trying to prove to myself that humans have some common sense ;x
[10:20] <Layberinthius> to learn and to talk back when people dont get a fair deal
[10:20] <Soul_Train> and it's not working =\
[10:20] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> They have dawned me with this name
[10:20] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> And told thee to alarm all of you
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[10:20] <Soul_Train> thee?
[10:21] <Soul_Train> they told me to alarm me?
[10:21] <Soul_Train> ;p;
[10:21] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> the poleshift shall come in 3 weeks
[10:21] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> prepare for doom
[10:21] <Himitsu> thanks for the warning, but I'll continue living at the beach
[10:21] <DRGREEN> 3 weeks?
[10:21] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> in 3 weeks
[10:21] * Layberinthius listens to Marilyn Manson - Astonishing Panorama Of The End Times
[10:21] <Layberinthius> im prepared, all the MM i can get :-)
[10:21] <DRGREEN> not months? shit.
[10:22] <DRGREEN> I'm doomed.
[10:22] <Layberinthius> im not =P
[10:22] <Himitsu> not doomed here either
[10:22] <DRGREEN> <<<:o) klingon
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[10:22] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> chadtime are you prepared
[10:22] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> for
[10:23] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> TROUBLED TIMES
[10:23] <Soul_Train> hahahhaha
[10:23] <Layberinthius> wtf
[10:23] <Himitsu> lol
[10:24] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> THE EARTHQUAKES HAVE ALREADY STARTED MY CHILDREN
[10:24] <Otto> where?
[10:24] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> THE EARTH'S CORE IS BEGINNING TO SPIN IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION
[10:24] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> THE ZETA'S HAVE WARNED ME
[10:24] <DRGREEN> Yeah.
[10:24] <Layberinthius> nowhere
[10:24] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> MEXICO
[10:24] <Himitsu> CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu: you need thorazine
[10:24] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> IVORY COAST
[10:24] * CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu was kicked by Layberinthius (Stop scaring the children....)
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[10:24] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> PAPA NEW GUINEA
[10:24] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> AND
[10:24] <Himitsu> CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu: and lots of it
[10:24] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> BRANSON, MISSOURI
[10:25] * CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu was kicked by Layberinthius (Please oh Please stop scaring my children!........)
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[10:25] <DRGREEN> hey Layber, you believe in a poleshift soming for is in 2003?
[10:25] <Layberinthius> Dosent matter what i believe =)
[10:25] <Otto> why?
[10:25] <Layberinthius> im /dev/null
[10:25] <Himitsu> LOL
[10:25] <Layberinthius> im just sitting back waiting for it to happen
[10:26] <Layberinthius> if it dont then whoopie
[10:26] <Himitsu> nancy's brain is /dev/null
[10:26] <Layberinthius> if it does then tick tick
[10:26] <Layberinthius> =P
[10:26] <DRGREEN> aha
[10:26] <Himitsu> it won't so get the whoopie out now
[10:26] <Layberinthius> i havent the time of day to make accusations or point out /my/ opinions anyway
[10:26] <DRGREEN> Nancy is not stupid Himitsu.
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[10:26] <Himitsu> could have fooled me about your messiah
[10:26] <Layberinthius> so what worth does my 'belief' have anyway?
[10:27] <Soul_Train> a stupid person could not fool thousands of people of something so major ;x
[10:27] <Himitsu> good point, must be a very good troll then
[10:27] <Himitsu> with lots of sheep
[10:28] <Otto> Why does this all match my dreams then?  I never heard of this stuff until
[10:28] <Otto> after my dreams.
[10:28] <CoprenicusAndruniasHasmatimusu> otto you're /dev/null
[10:28] * Layberinthius listens to My Dying Bride - Here in the Throat
[10:28] * Layberinthius sets mode: +o Himitsu
[10:29] <DRGREEN> I'm listening to Tool, Aenema.
[10:29] <Otto> For years I've been dreaming of fighting going on in supermarkets and urban areas
[10:29] <Dsarith> Otto: Keep you mind open, dont listen strictly to one group like this one, check out other groups on the other side who believe in PX and read. Make your decision based on all information
[10:29] <Otto> Then the wind/destruction dream.
[10:29] * Himitsu sets mode: -o Himitsu
[10:29] <Soul_Train> wow QV has some serious bug up her ass today
[10:29] <Himitsu> as if that is big news
[10:30] <Soul_Train> dreams of an apocalypse like you described are quite common, I'm afraid ;x
[10:30] <Otto> Dsarith - What convienced you?
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[10:31] <chadtime> i think queenvee has the pole shift up her ass
[10:31] <Otto> Soul-Train: There was more than that but I don't think I'll discuss it here.
[10:31] <Dsarith> Otto: I have a very open mind and continue to read both side. Everything is possible and I dont question that. What I question is probability
[10:31] <Soul_Train> i see..
[10:31] <Otto> Do you think probability is low?  (I'm not talking about the alien side - just the disaster side.)
[10:31] <Dsarith> I think you lose if you close off yourself to possibility
[10:32] <Dsarith> There is enough evidence for me to say that the possibility of something happening every 3600 years is there
[10:32] <Otto> Anything is possible... but the world seems so nuts these days.
[10:32] <Dsarith> Yes that is part of it
[10:32] <Dsarith> The world is nuts
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[10:33] <Himitsu> and how could a planet coming that nobody knows about make people nuts?
[10:33] <Otto> Do you think it is just wishful thinking on the part of people that a disaster would
[10:33] <Otto> get rid of all the evil people?
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[10:33] <Layberinthius> doubtful
[10:33] <Dsarith> Him: Lets say this planet was coming..
[10:33] <Layberinthius> actually it would be the opposite
[10:33] <Dsarith> Do you think the govt would tell you
[10:33] <Dsarith> NO
[10:34] <Otto> That's for sure
[10:34] <Layberinthius> cause all the /evil/ people would be more fit to be able to handle with a situation
[10:34] <Himitsu> how would you keep it a secret from all the astronomers?
[10:34] <Otto> Good question
[10:34] <Himitsu> at all of the observatories?
[10:34] <Layberinthius> mmm =D
[10:34] <Himitsu> all over the world?
[10:34] <Layberinthius> and all the employees
[10:34] <Himitsu> and the night assistants?
[10:34] <Layberinthius> and the janitor who looks in the glass every time at night
[10:34] <Himitsu> how?
[10:35] <Himitsu> waiting
[10:35] <DRGREEN> IF the poleshift does come, then I see no reason to believe otherwise. Evil shall vanish, everything the bible predicted has come true if it happens, so I won't doubt it.
[10:35] <Layberinthius> wtf
[10:35] <Himitsu> why are you skipping those questions?
[10:35] <Layberinthius> nothing in the bible has relation to this =P
[10:35] <Himitsu> a little hard to answer?
[10:35] <Otto> H, shouldn't you answer your own question if you are the astromomer?
[10:35] <Layberinthius> aliens arent prophesised in the bible so as to give us 400 IQ's make us bald and give us smaller cocks
[10:35] <Himitsu> I am an astronomer
[10:36] <Himitsu> LOL
[10:36] <DRGREEN> Himitsu, it seems that this summer 60% of worldwide observatory's have closed for a strange reason.
[10:36] <Himitsu> where is that in the news?
[10:36] <Himitsu> Palomar is open
[10:36] <Otto> So what do you see H?  
[10:36] <Layberinthius> yeah, back it up...
[10:36] <Himitsu> Keck is open
[10:36] <DRGREEN> I do not think the news could be held away from thousands of amateurs thoug.
[10:36] <Himitsu> Subaru is open
[10:36] <Layberinthius> parkes is open
[10:36] <Himitsu> Aricebo is open
[10:37] <Layberinthius> hell i grabbed data from parkes this afternoon!
[10:37] <Soul_Train> not to mention that nibiru would be, by FAR, the brightest object in the sky right now
[10:37] <Otto> That's what I wondered ST.
[10:37] <Himitsu> where  did you get that info from? nancy?
[10:37] <DRGREEN> Well, here two main observatories have closed. I asked why, they said renovations or so.
[10:37] <Soul_Train> wouldn't doubt it, heh
[10:37] <Layberinthius> mmm, the brightest object in the sky right now, bar the sun and moon is fucking Mars
[10:37] <Soul_Train> yeah, with saturn trailing behind
[10:37] <Soul_Train> saturn's looking fantastic right now
[10:37] <DRGREEN> Then I read an article in the Frontier magazine about some amateurs who said this was so.
[10:38] <Himitsu> do you know that once a year a mirror has to be resurfaced?
[10:38] <Layberinthius> quite! =D
[10:38] <Soul_Train> full 27 degree tilt
[10:38] <Layberinthius> and venus =P
[10:38] <Himitsu> some magazine
[10:38] <Otto> But there is a tenth planet
[10:38] <Himitsu> no reference
[10:38] <Otto> ?
[10:38] <Soul_Train> we don't know if there's a tenth planet.
[10:38] <Layberinthius> nope
[10:38] <Himitsu> not on a 3600 year orbit that brings it to a speed of 7000000 mph
[10:38] <DRGREEN> I do not cLAIM TO HAVE PROOF, BUT IT IS WHAT i RAED.
[10:38] <Layberinthius> aint no tenth planet (so far)
[10:38] <Himitsu> read where?
[10:38] <DRGREEN> sorry, capslock.
[10:38] <Himitsu> back it up
[10:39] <Otto> Wasn't that in the news years ago?  I remember that.
[10:39] <Layberinthius> of course, no proof = hot air
[10:39] <DRGREEN> I have given my source, Frontier magazine.
[10:39] * Layberinthius does a search cause DRGREEN is too much of a lazy fuck
[10:39] <DRGREEN> I do not say it is true, but I cannot just say it isn't.
[10:39] <Himitsu> well, hate to tell you, but all the observatories I know are up and running
[10:39] <DRGREEN> I've not researched their claimes.
[10:39] <Layberinthius> wait a minute
[10:39] <Otto> Well interesting discussion but I've got more research to do.  Bye all
[10:40] <Layberinthius> if its a few years ago
[10:40] <Layberinthius> then its fucking irrelevant to this discussion anyway!
[10:40] <DRGREEN> Why do you hate to tell me?
[10:40] <DRGREEN> I do not mind.
[10:41] * Layberinthius listens to Morbid Angel - Covenant Of Death
[10:41] <DRGREEN> You talk to me as if I'm some Nancyfollower who has nothing to back it up.
[10:41] <Layberinthius> no i dont
[10:41] <DRGREEN> I'm not sure about the PX, that's why next week I'll be taking my own images.
[10:41] <DRGREEN> I meant Himitsu. but thanks.
[10:42] <Layberinthius> i talk to you as if you are a bullshit artist with a lazy finger who simply refuses to back anything up with facts and then creates irrelevancies to hide you're true motive to simply cover over the impurities of zetatalk on you're OWN accord!!
[10:42] <Soul_Train> oooh
[10:42] <Soul_Train> dissed
[10:42] <Soul_Train> ;pp
[10:43] <Himitsu> DRGREEN: what kind of camera?
[10:43] <DRGREEN> That should clear things up. If I image nothing but existing objects, then, out with Nancy and her Zetafriends. Burn her like witches should be hehe.
[10:44] <Layberinthius> are you going to use an almost uneditible file format?
[10:44] <Himitsu> remember, it takes a long time to get good at astrophotography
[10:45] <Layberinthius> mmm, what kind of actuator system do you have?
[10:45] <DRGREEN> Himitsu, I'm no astronomer so I must research how and wich settings to use. I do not own my own telescope or camera, I'll image through http://www.arnierosner.com/are/Rent-a-Scope/rent-a-scope.html
[10:45] <Layberinthius> are you going to use a CCD system or are you going to use photographic images off of a 35mm camera?
[10:45] <Dsarith> Sorry had to talk to one of my engineers
[10:45] <Layberinthius> Dsarith: say again?
[10:45] <Himitsu> going to take you more than one shot to get good at it
[10:46] * Layberinthius kicks it up in the air and leaves for a while
[10:46] <Himitsu> there is a really good book to read for ccd work
[10:46] <Dsarith> I was talking on a subject earlier and now its changed so I am good :-)
[10:46] <Layberinthius> i gotta go configure my mail system....
[10:46] <DRGREEN> I'm not getting the shots, It's automatic.
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[10:46] <Himitsu> who sets it up?
[10:47] * Layberinthius listens to Morbid Angel - Fall from grace
[10:47] <DRGREEN> http://www.arnierosner.com/are/Rent-a-Scope/rent-a-scope.html read it please, I encourage everyone to do so, to once and for all clear up the subject of 2003.
[10:47] <Himitsu> nm
[10:47] <Himitsu> I read it
[10:47] <DRGREEN> Everyone can take images now.
[10:48] <Himitsu> who does the processing?
[10:49] <DRGREEN> I'll first send it to Jan if I can, and to MC and MC.
[10:49] <DRGREEN> then to ZT to see what Havas has to tell us.
[10:49] <Himitsu> do you use usenet at all?
[10:49] <DRGREEN> I'll also process myself, but I only have IRIS.
[10:50] <DRGREEN> usenet? I do not even know what that is. But I'
[10:50] <DRGREEN> ll
[10:50] <DRGREEN> post the results wherever I can.
[10:50] <Himitsu> if you post your pictures to alt.binaries.astro.pictures
[10:50] <DRGREEN> yes?
[10:50] <Himitsu> all your frames, they might do the processing for you
[10:51] <Himitsu> but usually it is just people showing their pictures there
[10:51] <Himitsu> hell, you might save money
[10:51] <DRGREEN> I'll let different parties precess them, to see if there are differences.
[10:51] <Himitsu> go there and ask if somebody would image your coords
[10:51] <Himitsu> somebody might just doit for you
[10:51] <DRGREEN> I might do that, thank you kindly.
[10:51] <Himitsu> but don't say it is for px
[10:51] <Himitsu> pleaaaaaaaaassssssssse
[10:52] <DRGREEN> right, I understand :)
[10:52] <Layberinthius> lol
[10:52] <Himitsu> just trying to save you from the fire
[10:52] <Layberinthius> ouch
[10:53] <Himitsu> well, they take their picture time seriously
[10:53] <DRGREEN> But I'm not really expecting fire, as I am 100% objective. I cannot belive in PX passing in 2003 until it has been imaged without any doubts.
[10:53] <Himitsu> and no offence DRGREEN, but they don't believe in it either
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[10:53] <Himitsu> well, if it helps, during this time of year
[10:54] <DRGREEN> I understand, since PX seems to ignore all our mathematics.
[10:54] <Himitsu> I live in the orion constellation with my scope and I haven't seen anyting
[10:54] <Himitsu> it seems to ignore my scope as well
[10:54] <DRGREEN> :)
[10:54] <Layberinthius> heheheheeheh
[10:54] <Himitsu> I can see 7 of the 9 planets, but not px
[10:54] <Himitsu> hehe
[10:55] <Dsarith> The important thing is to look and have a plan, even if it is to do nothing
[10:55] <Himitsu> well, 8 of 9 if I look at the ground I suppose
[10:55] <Soul_Train> lol
[10:55] <DRGREEN> :)
[10:55] <Himitsu> heh
[10:55] <tied2> himitsu what kinda scope do you have?
[10:55] <Himitsu> meade 10" f10
[10:55] <Soul_Train> WHOA
[10:55] <Soul_Train> sweet him
[10:56] <Layberinthius> quite =)
[10:56] <Himitsu> I like it
[10:56] <Layberinthius> thats what i said =P
[10:56] <Himitsu> a lot
[10:56] <Himitsu> hehe
[10:56] <Himitsu> ty
[10:56] <DRGREEN> Hey Himitsu, you do filter for red?
[10:56] <Himitsu> no
[10:56] <Himitsu> no reason really
[10:56] <Himitsu> since I don't have a ccd
[10:57] <DRGREEN> You think PX should be visible without, since it's soon (?) a naked eye object?
[10:57] <DRGREEN> aha.
[10:57] <Himitsu> how far out is it supposed to be right now?
[10:57] <DRGREEN> So filters are only for imaging?
[10:57] <Himitsu> some filters
[10:57] <DRGREEN> I have no idea.
[10:57] <Himitsu> I have nebula filters
[10:58] <Himitsu> it says on her page, but I can't find it
[10:58] <tied2> I don't think that a filter for red is a common filter
[10:58] <Himitsu> I think it is supposed to be within the orbit of neptune right now
[10:58] <Himitsu> it should be easy with any scope
[10:58] <Layberinthius> mmm
[10:58] <Himitsu> if the cover is off
[10:58] <Layberinthius> it isnt common =P
[10:58] <Soul_Train> within neptune?
[10:59] <DRGREEN> We'll, I'll just see how all plays out. The latest images on ZT really dissapoint me, truly seems like nothing's there. And I think Sarah's analysis is well done. The splotch truly seems like a lensproblem.
[10:59] <Soul_Train> and it's like what, twice as big>?
[10:59] <Himitsu> she says it is pretty big
[10:59] <Himitsu> should be bright too since it is a brown dwarf
[10:59] <Himitsu> lol
[10:59] <tied2> himitsu no I don't thonk it enters even the pluto untill febuary
[10:59] <Layberinthius> wtf
[10:59] <Himitsu> I think his mirror is dirty
[10:59] <Himitsu> feb then
[11:00] <DRGREEN> Himitsu, according to Nancy PX hasen't entered our solarsystem yet.
[11:00] <Himitsu> can't find the page
[11:01] <Himitsu> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/pierre4.htm
[11:02] <Himitsu> that is good
[11:02] <Himitsu> heh
[11:04] <Himitsu> screw it
[11:04] <Himitsu> I can't sift through all that crap
[11:04] <DRGREEN> ?
[11:04] <Layberinthius> oh good the script crashed
[11:05] <DRGREEN> Gotta go guys, I'll let you all know if I come up with something, and if not, same.
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[11:05] <Layberinthius> k
[11:05] <Himitsu> what script?
[11:05] <z> hmmm... script is in the other one =(
[11:06] <Himitsu> z, thanks
[11:06] <z> de nada Himitsu
[11:06] <Himitsu> lol
[11:06] <Layberinthius> lol
[11:06] <Layberinthius> the alsa script
[11:06] <Layberinthius> i need to install debconf first...
[11:06] <Layberinthius> all sorts of shit need it =P
[11:06] <Himitsu> I can't believe anybody can read through that site and take any of it seriously
[11:06] <Layberinthius> mmm
[11:07] <Layberinthius> well what do you expect, masses of people took the bible seriously
[11:07] <Layberinthius> !!
[11:07] <Himitsu> it is like a bad episode of unsolved mysteries or something
[11:07] <Layberinthius> LOL
[11:07] <Himitsu> ugh
[11:07] <Himitsu> it is almost painful trying to sort through it
[11:08] <Himitsu> and saying that dell imaged a gravitational microlensing event is nuts
[11:08] <Soul_Train> WHA?
[11:08] <Soul_Train> who imaged gravitic lensing?
[11:08] <Himitsu> http://www.midbc.com/personal/jwd/MicrolensingFrame1Source1.htm
[11:09] <Himitsu> man, I tell you, I can't make this kind of shit up
[11:09] <Layberinthius> ROFL
[11:10] <Himitsu> lol
[11:10] <Dsarith> Here is a thought question for everyone
[11:10] <Dsarith> If it did happen... would you even want to live in the aftertime
[11:10] <Layberinthius> nope
[11:10] <Himitsu> I don't even think about it Dsarith
[11:10] <Layberinthius> well actually yes
[11:11] <Himitsu> I don't give much thought to something that isn't going to happen
[11:11] <Dsarith> Why are you so set Him
[11:11] <Himitsu> set?
[11:11] <Himitsu> you mean convinced?
[11:11] <Dsarith> You have your mind so set against the possibility
[11:11] <Dsarith> Not convinced
[11:11] <Dsarith> Just totally against it
[11:11] <Himitsu> you are losing me
[11:12] <Himitsu> I am convinced
[11:12] <Dsarith> You have a mindset of absolutely not
[11:12] <Himitsu> 110%
[11:12] <Himitsu> or more
[11:12] <Dsarith> What makes you so sure
[11:12] <Himitsu> you want the whole list?
[11:13] <Dsarith> Yes
[11:13] <Himitsu> because aliens don't come to earth running around making crop circles and implanting dna into peoples heads so they can commune with them
[11:14] <tied2> what else?
[11:14] <Himitsu> be cause a planet on a 3600 year eliptical orbit can't reach a speed of 7,000,000 mph without being ejected from the solar system
[11:14] <Soul_Train> because celestial objects don't have "red" and "white" "personas", and even if they did, the white one would be a rainbow streak, not a defined spot, since white is a combination of ALL colors - and the red "persona" would  be a part of it
[11:14] <Himitsu> the same planet can't come into the solar system as an interolper and speed up and slow down
[11:15] <Layberinthius> Go Girls!!!
[11:15] <Himitsu> no matter how much people rail against newton, certain thigs always apply
[11:15] <Soul_Train> you heard about MOND, himitsu?
[11:15] <Soul_Train> interesting stuff
[11:15] <Himitsu> a body tends to remain in its present state unless acted upon by an outside force
[11:15] <Soul_Train> could be no dark matter after all
[11:15] <Layberinthius> what!?!
[11:15] <Soul_Train> MOND = Modified Newtonian Dynamics
[11:15] <Layberinthius> no dark stuff!?
[11:16] * Layberinthius faints!
[11:16] <Soul_Train> no, still dark energy, but no dark matter
[11:16] <Layberinthius> oh ok
[11:16] <Himitsu> want any more Dsarith?
[11:16] <Soul_Train> because objects at extremely low accelerations may disobey newton's laws
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[11:16] <Dsarith> Yes
[11:16] <Layberinthius> keeping that one alive for the trekkies huh? =P
[11:16] <Soul_Train> but it's a very big "may"
[11:16] <Soul_Train> hehe, yeah lay ;p
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[11:16] <Himitsu> because a brown dwarf planet can not be inhabited by beings that are similar to us, they would cook and die
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[11:17] <Himitsu> there would be no oceans there, they would boil away
[11:17] <Dsarith> I do not think that Science knows all that happens in the solar system. They are defined by what we know from looking out into space
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[11:17] <Soul_Train> not to mention that they would be WAY shorter, not taller, due to the increased graivty
[11:17] <Layberinthius> err a brown dwarf is a star is it not?
[11:17] <Himitsu> it is indeed
[11:17] <Soul_Train> Ds, even though we don't know much, this all still goes against the BILLIONS of observations we have made in the past
[11:17] <Soul_Train> so even if we're wrong, that's quite a coincidence
[11:17] <Dsarith> I understand that ST
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[11:17] <Himitsu> so what is the evidence for px there Dsarith?
[11:18] <Soul_Train> there isn't any ;x
[11:18] <Soul_Train> heh
[11:18] <Himitsu> heh
[11:18] * Layberinthius listens to Marduk - Scorched Earth
[11:18] <Dsarith> I think that PX is possible and could be on an eliptical orbit
[11:18] <Himitsu> we covered the orbit part
[11:18] <Dsarith> Yes
[11:18] <Himitsu> can't happen
[11:19] <Himitsu> too fast
[11:19] <Himitsu> it would leave and never come back
[11:19] <Dsarith> That part I do not think science can say for sure if its possible or not
[11:19] <Himitsu> never
[11:19] <Dsarith> It has never happened
[11:19] <Himitsu> ahh
[11:19] <tied2> Himitsu some of your conclusions are based on wrong info
[11:19] <Himitsu> wrong?
[11:19] <Layberinthius> actually if it was going that fast it would have to be 99.9994%  REDICULOUSLY THIN GAS
[11:19] <Himitsu> like what?
[11:19] <Himitsu> orbiat mechanics?
[11:19] <Dsarith> So they plug in numbers and try to make a call
[11:19] <Himitsu> Newton's laws?
[11:20] <tied2> a planet can not speed up and slow down for one
[11:20] <Himitsu> okay, example?
[11:20] <z> i think example is the mass sighting, by pilots and so numerous and from various areas that no flip explanation could be given for what was seen, ...
[11:20] <Dsarith> Newtons Law is good for this planet and our understanding of how it works on this planet.
[11:20] <tied2> it would skip out of our solar system
[11:20] <Dsarith> What about the univers
[11:20] <Dsarith> Observations are noted
[11:20] <Layberinthius> skip?
[11:20] <Layberinthius> you mean get slingshotted out?
[11:20] <Himitsu> that is the beauty of physics, the same laws apply every where!
[11:20] <Himitsu> hehe
[11:20] <tied2> there are many forces in space that could cause that
[11:20] <Himitsu> like what?
[11:21] <Dsarith> Him: That is an insane statement at best. You can not possibly apply our physics on the universe
[11:21] <Layberinthius> yeah thats true
[11:21] <tied2> gravity of the sun for one verses gravity of other stars and planets
[11:21] <Dsarith> Not be adversarial here
[11:21] <Layberinthius> we cant even figure out how pluto formed +P
[11:22] <Himitsu> gravity works the same everywhere
[11:22] * Layberinthius listens to Deicide - In Torment In Hell
[11:22] <Layberinthius> 10th planet that eventually got slingshotted out but done its work on pluto
[11:22] <Himitsu> and the dominate force of gravity in the system is what?
[11:22] <Layberinthius> then left
[11:22] <Himitsu> the sun
[11:22] <tied2> we can't even figure out the weather  lol
[11:22] <Himitsu> so the orbit of a planet can't come in faster than the suns gravitational pull
[11:23] <Himitsu> which is what nancy is saying
[11:23] <tied2> yes but it's not the only force therefore other things have a effects to some degree
[11:23] <Himitsu> and yes, the laws of physics are the same everywhere
[11:23] <Layberinthius> tied2: thats irrelevant, we could if we can take a snapshot of every particle of air and water then do computer calculations, its simply a loss of power
[11:23] <Dsarith> I just dont accept the call to define the universe in terms of what man sees on earth
[11:23] <Himitsu> what forces tied2?
[11:23] <tied2> we all ready covered that
[11:23] <Himitsu> the strong nuclear force?
[11:23] <Himitsu> the week nuclear force?
[11:23] <Himitsu> gravity?
[11:23] <z> gravity is about twice as heavy, that's why they were so big.
[11:24] <Himitsu> which?
[11:24] <z> i think which is why they currently use kerosene for flamethrowers or a heavy metal
[11:24] <Layberinthius> tied2: a supercomputer working for many years can predict the next days weather with pinpoint accuracy, its simply a lack of processing power
[11:24] <Himitsu> we didn't cover that
[11:24] <Layberinthius> erm
[11:24] <Layberinthius> actually
[11:24] <Layberinthius> we accept the physics rules of today based UPON the information we find out there /and/ in our own solar system
[11:25] <Himitsu> the laws of physics are the same everywhere in the universe
[11:25] <Layberinthius> if we couldnt explain the physics of other stars and constellations/universes then we would have forgotten about our current rules long ago
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[11:26] <Dsarith> You are making the same narrow statement. Have you been out there on pluto and beyond to see if the same laws apply. If not, you are defining what you know by what you have from earth
[11:26] <Layberinthius> yep i have =)
[11:26] <Himitsu> I have not, but probes have
[11:26] <Layberinthius> so has every other astronomer
[11:26] <Layberinthius> phyicist =)
[11:26] <Himitsu> and the laws apply
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[11:26] <Layberinthius> we use instruments =)
[11:27] <Himitsu> not to be offensive Dsarith, I really mean that, but if you think, honestly, that the laws of physics are different between here and on pluto, you need to read more
[11:27] <Layberinthius> how the fuck do you think we discovered other planets? we based the rules we have today upon them and.... low and behold every fucking time it worked and we found a planet *Grins8
[11:27] <Layberinthius> how do you think we found pluto?
[11:27] <Himitsu> Dsarith: I really don't mean that to be offensive, I swear it, but that is the truth
[11:27] <Layberinthius> we used mathematics and physics
[11:27] <Layberinthius> yeah not like me =P
[11:28] <Dsarith> I dont take offense and I hope you all dont take offense to what I say
[11:28] <Himitsu> Ds:
[11:28] <Layberinthius> im tired and the star i orbit is getting big in the back door =P
[11:28] <Dsarith> Ok, lets look at science
[11:28] <tied2> yes we use mathematics physics and they say it is out there .... they just can't find it or don't acknowledge it
[11:29] <Himitsu> Dsarith: the same law of gravity that keeps you held to your floor, is the same law that moves pluto around in its 249 year orbit and make it's moon charon orit it
[11:29] <Himitsu> they, who is they?
[11:29] <Dsarith> We constantly overtime have adjusted our theories and formulas as we learn something new
[11:29] <Himitsu> say it is out there?
[11:29] <Himitsu> what it?
[11:29] <Dsarith> Hence our technology has grown
[11:29] <tied2> thats why so many great minds spent life times looking for it long before Nancy came around
[11:29] <Dsarith> Our understanding of the universe grows
[11:30] <Himitsu> people look for planets because they get famous
[11:30] <Layberinthius> erm no
[11:30] <Layberinthius> only the ones based upon assumtions we have changed
[11:30] <Dsarith> Right now we have a set of theories and rules that we go by to predict the universe. However, at any given time, we adapt those theories to define what we once thought was a different way
[11:30] <Himitsu> you aren't understanding something really simple, px can't exist as nancy describes it
[11:30] <Dsarith> Hence why science perpetually evolves
[11:30] <Dsarith> It evolves with understanding
[11:30] <Layberinthius> only the ones based upon assumtions we have changed
[11:30] <tied2> yes himitsu I have articles from a recent study from a French and a American group that came up with conclusion that it's out there
[11:31] <Layberinthius> assumptions rather
[11:31] <Himitsu> what articles?
[11:31] <Layberinthius> not niburi =P
[11:31] <Himitsu> what magazine?
[11:31] <Himitsu> newspaper?
[11:31] <Layberinthius> fucking 10th planet...
[11:31] <tied2> from ABC news .com
[11:31] <Himitsu> news>
[11:31] <Himitsu> a link?
[11:31] <Himitsu> how about a link?
[11:31] <Layberinthius> yes, can you /back-that-up/?
[11:31] <Layberinthius> come on you've got 5mins
[11:31] <Himitsu> I am not saying that there isn't a 10th planet
[11:31] <Layberinthius> more time allowed if you can proove you're on dialup
[11:32] <tied2> it was about two years ago  it's on another hard drive  lol
[11:32] <Himitsu> I am saying that as nancy describes it, it doesn't exist
[11:32] <Layberinthius> oh so it was an assumption
[11:32] <Himitsu> not on that kind of orbit
[11:32] <Layberinthius> well yes not on that orbit Himitsu *Grins* =D
[11:32] <Himitsu> not as a inhabited brown dwarf with swirling moons
[11:32] <Himitsu> it isn't possible
[11:32] <Dsarith> That aside, the idea of PX is possible
[11:33] <Layberinthius> of course it is
[11:33] <tied2> Nancy never said it was a brown dwarf   she said that it maybe be CALLED a brown dwarf
[11:33] <Himitsu> sure, there could be planets all the way out to AC for all we know
[11:33] <Layberinthius> technically you are correct in that sentence
[11:33] <Himitsu> yes she did
[11:33] <Layberinthius> but anything else you say is bullfuck
[11:33] * Soul_Train fucks a bull
[11:33] <Himitsu> she said it is a smoldering brown dward
[11:33] <Himitsu> dwarf
[11:33] <tied2> no
[11:35] <Himitsu> she did on use net
[11:35] <Layberinthius> can you back that up?
[11:36] <Dsarith> brb - need more caffeine
[11:36] <Dsarith> Interesting conversation
[11:36] <Layberinthius> bbs need more food
[11:36] <Layberinthius> and water
[11:36] <Layberinthius> and sleep
[11:36] <Layberinthius> and oil
[11:36] <Layberinthius> hell maybe i need a pitstop
[11:37] <Himitsu> Relevant information on this inbound smoldering brown dwarf, due
[11:37] <Himitsu> for a passage past Earth shortly after may 15, 2003, can be found on
[11:37] <Himitsu> the web at:
[11:37] <Himitsu>     Planet X as a SMOLDERING Planet
[11:37] <Himitsu>         (http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use90650.htm)
[11:37] <Himitsu>     Planet X as a RED Planet
[11:37] <Himitsu>         (http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use90651.htm)
[11:37] <Himitsu>     Planet X Distance, Speed, thus SIZE
[11:37] <Himitsu>         (http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use90652.htm)
[11:37] <tied2> here the thing  I'm not trying to win a award or impress anyone if you don't believe see if i care? I don't have to prove a damn thing
[11:37] <Himitsu>     Planet X and the PASSAGE Path
[11:37] <Himitsu> hmm
[11:37] <Himitsu> smoldering brown dwarf
[11:37] <Himitsu> Relevant information on this inbound smoldering brown dwarf, due
[11:37] <Himitsu> Relevant information on this inbound smoldering brown dwarf, due
[11:37] <Himitsu> Relevant information on this inbound smoldering brown dwarf, due
[11:37] <Himitsu> Relevant information on this inbound smoldering brown dwarf, due
[11:38] <tied2> ok I stand corrected
[11:38] <Himitsu> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3DBA8225.C748B3C0%40zetatalk.com&output=gplain
[11:38] <Himitsu> brown dwarf == hot as hell
[11:38] <Himitsu> not inhabited
[11:38] <tied2> smoldering !
[11:38] <Himitsu> by anything
[11:38] <Soul_Train> or at least not by anything resembling an "Anukai"
[11:38] <tied2> it has to cool off some time
[11:39] <Himitsu> yeah, like forever
[11:39] <Soul_Train> haha
[11:39] <tied2> no such thing as forever
[11:39] <Soul_Train> no such thing as time
[11:39] <Soul_Train> so go suck an egg ;p;
[11:39] <Himitsu> brown dwarfs are known as the universes immortals, they burn for so long it might as well be forever
[11:40] <Soul_Train> not to mention that a brown dwarf doesn't really have a "surface" to speak of
[11:40] <Soul_Train> it's like a bigger version of jupiter
[11:40] <Himitsu> oh, and moons don't swirl
[11:40] <Himitsu> they orbit
[11:40] <Soul_Train> indeed, they orbit
[11:40] <tied2> so then your saying it could be at a point it could be just warm forever?
[11:40] <Himitsu> they don't dance in a swirl
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[11:40] <Himitsu> not literally forever
[11:40] <Layberinthius> hehehe
[11:40] <Himitsu> but for a loooooong time
[11:40] <Layberinthius> mmm, no time =D
[11:40] <Himitsu> our sun is supposed to be 4 billion old now
[11:41] * Layberinthius throws himself around in a booth
[11:41] <Layberinthius> no time no time no time no time no timeno time no time no time no time no timeno time
[11:41] <Dsarith> lol
[11:41] <Himitsu> that is nothing to a brown dwarf
[11:41] <tied2> Freax your a complete and total ass
[11:41] <Himitsu> besides, there is no px
[11:41] <Layberinthius> thanks!
[11:41] * Layberinthius tips hat
[11:41] <tied2> your welcome
[11:42] <Layberinthius> but can you proove it =P
[11:42] <Himitsu> with a swirling tail and inhabitants and a 3600 year 7,000,000 mph orbit
[11:42] <Himitsu> etc etc
[11:42] <tied2> lol I don't have to
[11:42] <Himitsu> and one other thing about me, in regards to nancy
[11:42] <Himitsu> if somebody presses me on something in science, I back it up
[11:42] <Himitsu> I do not ad hominem
[11:42] <Layberinthius> then im not an ass
[11:43] <Himitsu> I do not attack the person pressing me
[11:43] <Layberinthius> cause to have something not proven is for it to not exist
[11:43] <Layberinthius> mainly because it hasnt been discovered yet, hence the meaning of proven
[11:43] <tied2> well so we all agree Nancy is not perfect
[11:43] <Himitsu> I have nothing to lose, I am not a net celeb like nancy
[11:43] <Himitsu> I am not saying nancy isn't perfect
[11:44] <Himitsu> I am not going to cast the first stone so to speak
[11:44] <Soul_Train> ooh ooh! I will I will
[11:44] <Layberinthius> why not? you just gotta aim low, for nancy's toe!
[11:44] <Himitsu> hell, I don't want anybody on my bandwagon
[11:44] <Himitsu> if you want to believe in px, dozo
[11:44] <Soul_Train> nancy's a liar and a fraud and a horrible person with likely mental disfunctions too great to be enumerated
[11:44] <Himitsu> I could care less
[11:44] <Layberinthius> aww i wanted a ride
[11:45] <Himitsu> live in the woods eating bugs and live in a hole
[11:45] <Himitsu> I will be eating pizza hut on may 15th
[11:45] <Himitsu> and the 21st
[11:45] <Soul_Train> and in 2004
[11:45] <Layberinthius> i ate pizza yesterday
[11:45] <Himitsu> and every friday after
[11:45] <Soul_Train> pizza hut is NOT "pizza"
[11:45] <Layberinthius> ooh
[11:45] <tied2> right and thats the way I feel about unbelievers  I don't hate anyone for it. I could really care less
[11:45] <Himitsu> because I CAN BECAUSE THERE IS NO PX
[11:45] <Layberinthius> yeah pizza hut sucks
[11:45] <Layberinthius> dominos rock =D
[11:45] <Soul_Train> it's artificial cheese on artificial "pizza" sauce on cheap "bread-like foodstuff product"
[11:45] <Himitsu> pizza hut
[11:45] <z> i guess pizza hut is NOT "pizza"
[11:45] <Dsarith> And if it proves to be in the sky in the next couple of months?
[11:46] <Himitsu> r0<k5 y0ur 455
[11:46] <Soul_Train> ugh dominos is also not "pizza"
[11:46] <Himitsu> it won't
[11:46] <juditness> i hate dominos
[11:46] <Layberinthius> Dsarith: then you can suck my cock for free, its in the cuboard
[11:46] <Dsarith> IF it does?
[11:46] <Himitsu> because, it is impossible
[11:46] <juditness> and pizza hut :|
[11:46] <Himitsu> IF isn't going to cut it
[11:46] <Himitsu> it isn't there
[11:46] <Dsarith> It costs Lay?
[11:46] <Layberinthius> juditness: do you hate pizza too?
[11:46] <juditness> no
[11:46] <Layberinthius> yup
[11:46] <Himitsu> Mars is, it will be really red in the sky too
[11:46] <juditness> i <3 real pizza ;)
[11:46] <Layberinthius> its a privelage
[11:46] <Soul_Train> if I want pizza, I'll go to Mariella's across the street from me and get REAL pizza with REAL ingredients made by REAL italians
[11:46] <Dsarith> lol
[11:47] <juditness> american pizza != real pizza.
[11:47] <Himitsu> pizza hut made by real Japanese people
[11:47] <juditness> real pizza = thin and crusty ;)
[11:47] <Himitsu> r341 J4p4n353 p30p13
[11:47] <Layberinthius> rofl
[11:47] <Layberinthius> italians are dirty fucks
[11:47] <Soul_Train> judit, that's how it is here ;x
[11:47] <Soul_Train> new york != america :D
[11:47] <Layberinthius> both sexually and food-wise
[11:47] <tied2> I like Alien pizza cause it's outa this world
[11:47] <Soul_Train> NYC needs to secede from the union
[11:47] <Soul_Train> the world would be sucha  happier place
[11:47] <juditness> you = american.
[11:47] <Soul_Train> no.
[11:48] <Soul_Train> me = new yorker
[11:48] <juditness> you = micro user.
[11:48] <juditness> =P
[11:48] <Soul_Train> there's a BIG difference
[11:48] <Soul_Train> OOOH
[11:48] <Soul_Train> ;x
[11:48] <juditness> hahahaha
[11:48] <juditness> me = eleet european.
[11:48] <Layberinthius> if you can read this = you're a good person, cause you can read!
[11:48] <Soul_Train> hmm, i can't read it
[11:48] <tied2> you mean elite?
[11:48] <Soul_Train> no, she means 31337
[11:49] <Soul_Train> don't j00 sp34|< h4x0r?
[11:49] <juditness> i mean eleet. :)
[11:49] <juditness> haha
[11:49] <Himitsu> jud|+n355 |5 +00 3133+ f0r y0u <0<kf4<3d d0g 5u<k3r5
[11:49] <Dsarith> I am confused
[11:49] <juditness> dave saw my tshirts :)
[11:49] <Layberinthius> you mean l33t?
[11:49] <juditness> Himit5u th4t w45 51ight1y t00 3133t.
[11:49] <Layberinthius> qu|te
[11:49] <Himitsu> LOL
[11:49] <Himitsu> was wondering if anybody was reading that
[11:49] <Himitsu> hehehe
[11:50] <Himitsu> sorry for that everybody!
[11:50] <Layberinthius> what?
[11:50] <juditness> dogsucker???
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[11:50] <Dsarith> Wheew I thought it was just me
[11:50] <Himitsu> LOLOLOL
[11:50] <juditness> wtf is a dogsucker???
[11:50] <Himitsu> cockfaced no less
[11:50] * Layberinthius taps his leet decoder in the head
[11:50] <Himitsu> supposed to be dogfaced cocksucker
[11:50] <Layberinthius> mmm
[11:50] <Himitsu> I changed it around just to mess with everybody
[11:51] <Layberinthius> i dont mind bullfuckers myself...
[11:51] <Himitsu> and in leet speak too
[11:51] <Soul_Train> i don't midn dolphin fuckers
[11:51] <Soul_Train> www.dolphinsex.org
[11:51] <Layberinthius> eew
[11:51] <Soul_Train> yep
[11:51] <Soul_Train> it's SO much worse as you read it, too ;)
[11:51] <Layberinthius> well they do have orgasams
[11:51] <Himitsu> sorry if I offended you juditness
[11:51] <Layberinthius> so i guess it aint all bad
[11:51] <juditness> so do we =x
[11:51] <juditness> Himitsu: you didn't :D
[11:52] * Himitsu whew!
[11:52] <Layberinthius> [06:50] <Himitsu> now would be a good time to say sorry
[11:52] <Layberinthius> [06:50] <Himitsu> Layberinthius: now would be a really teally good time to apologise
[11:52] <Layberinthius> [06:51] <Layberinthius> nah im fucked
[11:52] <Layberinthius> [06:52] <Layberinthius> i couldnt apologise to my cat!
[11:52] <Layberinthius> [06:52] <Himitsu> do it
[11:52] <Layberinthius> [06:53] <Layberinthius> but i did earlier
[11:52] <Layberinthius> [06:53] <Himitsu> do it in public
[11:52] <Layberinthius> [06:53] <Himitsu> since the show you made was in public
[11:52] <Dsarith> Lay: You know by experience?
[11:52] <Layberinthius> there i said sorry!
[11:52] <Himitsu> lol
[11:52] <Himitsu> cheeeeeeesy
[11:52] <Himitsu> hehe
[11:52] * Soul_Train throws a big chunk of cheese at himitsu
[11:53] <Himitsu> throw it at Layber, not me!
[11:53] <Layberinthius> hey thats mine!
[11:53] <Himitsu> yeah it is!
[11:53] <Layberinthius> me rubber cheese
[11:53] <Himitsu> damn, I am tired
[11:53] <Himitsu> I need sleep
[11:53] <Layberinthius> judit went all quiet
[11:53] <Himitsu> it is snowing
[11:53] <Layberinthius> ooh
[11:53] <juditness> i am busy netsexing.
[11:53] <Layberinthius> can i change cheese with you? i like swiss better...
[11:53] <juditness> sorry. :/
[11:54] <Himitsu> yeah, the cockfaced dogsucker is really a show stopper
[11:54] * Layberinthius drags the curtain around juditness's workstation
[11:54] * Layberinthius sits back down
[11:54] <Himitsu> gnight all, need sleep it is 5am here
[11:54] <Layberinthius> orgasam stopper ?
[11:54] <Layberinthius> bah thats nothing!
[11:54] <Himitsu> lol
[11:55] <Himitsu> is for  me
[11:55] <Layberinthius> its 6:56here
[11:55] <Layberinthius> am
[11:55] <Layberinthius> 57
[11:55] <Dsarith> Later Him
[11:55] <Soul_Train> cya mitsu
[11:55] <Himitsu> cya all later
[11:55] * Himitsu waves
[11:55] <Layberinthius> idd better go too
[11:55] <Layberinthius> gotta catch a ride with Himitsu
[11:55] <Soul_Train> gnight lay
[11:55] <Layberinthius> *waves*
[11:55] <Dsarith> gnight lay
[11:55] <Soul_Train> peas on earth
[11:55] <Layberinthius> yah, peas =D
[11:55] <juditness> bibi
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[11:56] <Layberinthius> woot
[11:56] <juditness> lol
[11:56] <Himitsu-away> =)
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[15:12] <Jesus> hey i don't know if any of you have heard of reiki, but it's awesome
[15:12] <Jesus> i got a copy of a webpage that teaches you for free
[15:13] <Jesus> no stupid books to buy (ignore the ads) and stuff
[15:13] <Jesus> http://www.minkusmaz.com/rr/
[15:13] <obany> i did read about it... it's the use of energy to heal etc...
[15:13] <Jesus> try it out
[15:13] <Jesus> you'll dig it...it's so crazy
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[16:23] <reticuli> hello?
[16:24] <obany> hi
[16:24] <reticuli> just wondering if anyone was home
[16:24] <obany> k
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