Session Start: Sat Jan 04 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #Troubled_Times
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[00:11] <Sapphire> Anyone awake?
[00:13] <Sapphire> Calling all cult members...
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[00:14] <Himitsu> lol
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[00:15] <Sapphire> Too bad obany isn't here.
[00:15] <Himitsu> what's up Sapphire?
[00:15] <Sapphire> Just checking in.
[00:15] <Himitsu> he doesn't come around that much anymore
[00:15] <Himitsu> I think I pissed him off too many times
[00:16] <Sapphire> ah.
[00:16] <Sapphire> The other day I joined here, and he immediately left.
[00:16] <Himitsu> take it as a compliment I think
[00:17] <Sapphire> right.
[00:17] <Sapphire> I can't wait to see which one of these guys kills himself first when PX doesn't show.
[00:17] <Himitsu> honestly, I would rather none did
[00:18] <Himitsu> but I have a feeling after some realise the messed up their lives on the rantings of a nut, some will wack themselves
[00:18] <Sapphire> me too, but I'm sure it's too late for any to be unconvinced at this point.
[00:18] <Himitsu> I have had a couple of successes
[00:18] <Soul_Train> yeah anyone's that's still with 'em now are gonna go down with the ship
[00:19] <Sapphire> Dell and Havas are hopeless.
[00:19] <Himitsu> I actually had sombody tell me yesterday that the laws of physics are different throughout the universe
[00:19] <Himitsu> hopeless and clueless
[00:20] <Soul_Train> yeah, i was there :)
[00:20] <Himitsu> it is unreal
[00:20] <Himitsu> wtf do they teach in school anymore?
[00:20] <Soul_Train> and i love how nancy has 'confessed' to having some of her 'predictions' actually just be 'tests', so they *might* be wrong
[00:20] <Sapphire> I find the best show is with QueenVee.
[00:20] <Sapphire> Especially after she has been drinking.
[00:21] <Soul_Train> haha
[00:21] <Himitsu> QV does put on the best show, but she never graces her with her presence anymore
[00:21] <Himitsu> lol
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[00:22] <Sapphire> Her dog just fell ill today...she'll probably drink more.
[00:23] <Soul_Train> ..
[00:23] <Soul_Train> have SOME courtesy. this is a real person you're talking about
[00:23] <Himitsu> must be spying in psd
[00:23] <Himitsu> believe it or not, QV and I had a very civil conversation once
[00:23] <Sapphire> even better than spying...
[00:24] <Sapphire> I have conversation with her all the time...it will be published before too long.
[00:24] <Himitsu> she won't talk to me anymore
[00:25] <Sapphire> Not only is she evil by most definitions, but she is physically and mentally ill.
[00:25] <Sapphire> I cannot respect her one bit.
[00:25] <Himitsu> I made a stupid mistake cutting and pasting something and she thought I was doing something underhanded
[00:25] <Himitsu> I actually felt pretty bad about it, and tried to explain to her that it was just a mistake
[00:25] <Himitsu> she wouldn't listen though
[00:26] <Soul_Train> well of course not
[00:26] <Soul_Train> everything's a damned conspiracy
[00:26] <Himitsu> thing is, it was a simple mistake on my part
[00:26] <Sapphire> time to go.  I'll check in later.
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[00:27] <Himitsu> oh well
[00:28] <Himitsu> dell has been stinking up sci.astro as of late
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[01:05] * [3j] is hungry
[01:05] * [3j] eats a live chicken
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[01:38] <Himitsu> Playing: George Thorogood & The Destroyers - Alley Oop  [0:05/3:58 (2%)] [160Kbps]
[01:55] <Himitsu> Playing: George Thorogood & The Destroyers - Madison Blues  [0:08/5:38 (2%)] [160Kbps]
[01:56] <Himitsu> [3j]: you finished with your chicken yet?
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[02:40] <obany> hey Juur :
[02:40] <obany> P
[02:40] <obany> :P
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[04:03] <Nick13> hey
[04:03] <Nick13> Hello
[04:03] <Nick13> anyone home
[04:04] <Nick13> HELLO
[04:04] <Nick13> ANYONE HOME TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PLANET X
[04:05] <Himitsu> ask queenvee in #poleshiftdiscussions
[04:05] <Himitsu> ask queenvee in #poleshiftdiscussion
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[04:48] <Himitsu> Nick13: did you go there and talk to queenvee?
[04:52] <Nick13> yeah
[04:52] <Nick13> she fucking kicked me
[04:52] <Nick13> dude
[04:52] <Nick13> i swear people these days
[04:52] <Nick13> don't have 4 seconds to answer ur questions
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[06:13] <obaway> there will 2 zetatalk sessions today one on #poleshiftdiscussion starting at 20:30UTC and one on #zetatalk starting at 22:00 UTC
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[06:15] <obaway> guess you have something to say
[06:15] <Himitsu> something
[06:15] <z> hmmm... something is very ridiculous about the content on the ZT site. It isn't focussed on us at all. It's aliens this and that, ufos, conspiracies, secrets, assasinations, politics, predictions, doom and gloom.. yes, in between there can be found some advise for people, do this do that, this is better, that is not.. but its too diffused the site is
[06:15] <Himitsu> hehe
[06:15] <Himitsu> but not here, was in a different channel
[06:16] <Himitsu> thanks z
[06:16] <obaway> obany?
[06:16] <z> obany is smart
[06:16] <obaway> thnx z
[06:17] <obaway> forget obany
[06:17] <z> obaway: I forgot obany
[06:17] <obaway> obany is very smart
[06:17] <obaway> obany?
[06:17] <z> obany is very smart
[06:17] <obaway> forget zetatalk
[06:17] <z> obaway: I forgot zetatalk
[06:17] <obaway> zetatalk check www.zetatalk.com for info
[06:18] <obaway> zetatalk
[06:18] <obaway> zetatalk?
[06:18] <obaway> mm
[06:18] <obaway> zetatalk
[06:18] <obaway> something
[06:18] <z> something is very ridiculous about the content on the ZT site. It isn't focussed on us at all. It's aliens this and that, ufos, conspiracies, secrets, assasinations, politics, predictions, doom and gloom.. yes, in between there can be found some advise for people, do this do that, this is better, that is not.. but its too diffused the site is
[06:18] <Himitsu> 3e168bee$0$94302$e4fe514c@dreader4.news.xs4all.nl
[06:18] <Himitsu> maybe someday havas and dell will be able to do that
[06:19] <obaway> xs4all ?
[06:19] <obaway> dutch news server
[06:20] <Himitsu> 3e168ea8$0$94311$e4fe514c@dreader4.news.xs4all.nl
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[06:20] <Himitsu> then again, probably not
[06:23] <obaway>  what are you trying to say with that?
[06:23] <obaway> because they don't use a news server to post?
[06:24] <Himitsu> no, because they can't process a coloring book, much less ccd pictures
[06:25] <obaway> himitsu doh , and you are god sigh
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[06:25] <Himitsu> lol
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[06:25] <obaway> don't act like you are so damn smart
[06:25] <Himitsu> maybe it isn't an act ob
[06:25] <woogles> lol
[06:25] <Himitsu> lol
[06:26] <obaway> you know what i am trying to say with this
[06:26] <Himitsu> it isn't that I don't know, so much as I don't really care
[06:26] <Himitsu> =)
[06:28] <Himitsu> hi woogles!
[06:29] <woogles> From the topic, I gather most of this channel is pro-planet x (believes in it) ?
[06:29] <Himitsu> maybe
[06:29] <Himitsu> not me
[06:29] <Himitsu> ask obaway
[06:29] <obaway> i do woogles ..
[06:29] <Himitsu> do you woogles?
[06:29] <obaway> himitsu is one of the sci.astro ... sickos
[06:30] <Himitsu> careful ob
[06:30] <Himitsu> ad hominem
[06:30] <woogles> I'm very skeptical myself, I'm not afraid to accept something bad may happen someday, but the physics and the facts simply don't add up in favour of a planet x existing and returning this year (at least, in my experience so far).
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[06:30] <Himitsu> ooo
[06:30] <Himitsu> wooohooo
[06:30] <Himitsu> another sicko like me!
[06:30] <Himitsu> =)
[06:31] <obaway> so woogles what do you need then to convince you ?
[06:31] <Himitsu> a big red planet in the sky
[06:31] <Himitsu> that would do it
[06:31] <Himitsu> oh, and swirling moons too
[06:32] <obaway> woogles http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p169.htm
[06:32] <Himitsu> woogles http://www.badastronomy.com
[06:32] <woogles> I've read through zetatalk thank you.
[06:33] <woogles> And I'm also a second year physics student, I'm quite aware of the bad astronomy some planet x people exhibit in their beliefs.
[06:33] <Himitsu> I bet
[06:34] <obaway> woogles: so you want to see the planet with your own eyes before you will take it serious ...
[06:34] <obaway> says that 7 weeks before the shift it will be in the sky for all to see so
[06:34] <Himitsu> how about with a scope? when will it be visible?
[06:34] <obaway> Himitsu: it is ... and don't tell me it's not ......
[06:34] <woogles> No, not at all obaway. If you can demonstrate with good science or provide hard facts in favour of its existance before it is visible, I will believe.
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[06:35] <Himitsu> I can't find it with mine
[06:35] <obaway> sigh
[06:35] <Himitsu> must be jamming me
[06:35] <obaway> this channel anoys the fuck out of me
[06:35] <Himitsu> funny
[06:35] <obaway> to bad it happend
[06:35] <Himitsu> it is your channel
[06:35] <obaway> Yes it's mine channel yes
[06:36] <obaway> but i kick you you whine on sci.astro about me
[06:36] <obaway> dork
[06:36] <woogles> Look, I'm not anti-planet x, maybe it does exist. But the thing is, the facts _most_ believers base this on are simply very poor at best.
[06:36] <Himitsu> hardly whine
[06:36] <Himitsu> more like ridicule you
[06:36] <obaway> and for what purpose, as as i said your karma will chase you
[06:37] <Himitsu> I have karma to burn ob. don't worry about me
[06:37] <woogles> http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/Planet-X.htm gives examples of many of the flaws I speak of near the bottom of the page.
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[06:39] <obany> This is Troubled Times based on the 2003 premise, the date given by zetatalk if you are here to whine to debunk and only for the namecalling, then leave this channel or go to #astronoy or whatever, yes there is a #astronomy on funnet  
[06:39] * obany sets mode: -m
[06:39] <Himitsu> lol
[06:39] <Himitsu> yes there is
[06:40] <Himitsu> I made it obany, and I confess you were the inspiration for it
[06:40] <obany> so why do you bother going to this channel is it still because Steve and others post on sci.astro
[06:41] <Himitsu> that and because there is a certain atmosphere here ob
[06:41] <obany> like an eye for an eye
[06:41] <Himitsu> I just love the abuse
[06:41] <Himitsu> the kicks bans +m
[06:41] <Himitsu> it is funny
[06:41] <Himitsu> hehe
[06:42] <obany> I am still the owner of this channel if you don't like that then leave
[06:42] <woogles> I have a question (well many, but one that shouldn't be too offensive).  The question is, what if planet x does NOT come this year (hypothetically speaking)? I've already seen sites claiming the date was wrong, as though they are preparing to say "oops, miscalculation, it REALLY comes in year XXXX"
[06:42] <Himitsu> nah, I'll stay
[06:43] <obany> if it won't come then humanity will destroy the world by itself ...
[06:43] <Himitsu> but you said it will come obany
[06:43] <obany> but i don't buy the 'it won't come this year"  
[06:43] <obany> so i did give a rethorical answer himitsu
[06:45] <Himitsu> rhetorical question
[06:45] <Himitsu> n.
[06:45] <Himitsu>     A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.
[06:46] <obany> you know that i don't take it that it won't come ... why else do you think that this channnel was created in the first place before it got ruined by guys like you
[06:46] <obany> for discussion about preparing etc
[06:46] <obany> now it well sucks
[06:47] <Himitsu> kind of like how sci.astro was ruined by your group
[06:48] <obany> sure sigh
[06:48] <Himitsu> sigh
[06:48] <woogles> Ok, lets say it will come. Due to planet x's weird orbit, and the fact that the earth orbits the sun once a year, it is hypothetically possible planet x is approaching from behind the sun (though not according to the coordinates given :| )
[06:50] <obany> well i am not a person walking on this world .. blindfolded because i don't see the signs of what will occur
[06:50] <obany> i see clearly what is going on
[06:51] <woogles> I see something going on too :( Many things in fact. Things like the capitilist society taking advantage of peoples
[06:51] <woogles> fears and what not (sorry hit enter by mistake)
[06:51] <obany> the weather is acting up etc etc, you can't deny that either
[07:02] <woogles> A friend of mine has found something that says planet x has not been here before.  I was wondering what, if anything, is your counter argument to his claim. Would you be willing to have a non-hostile dicussion on the matter?
[07:02] <obany> and what is that argument?
[07:03] <woogles> The moon is still orbiting the Earth.
[07:03] <obany> and what does that say ?
[07:04] <woogles> Planet X is supposedly as massive as jupiter yes?
[07:04] <Himitsu> should be more massive
[07:04] <Himitsu> it is supposed to be a brown dwarf
[07:05] <woogles> Ok, well something that big has quite a bit more gravitational force than earth.  If planet x has ever been in our solar system, anywhere as near to earth as claimed, then our moon would either have slammed into us, or have been stolen away by planet x.
[07:07] <obany> it won't be stolen
[07:07] <obany> and won't crash either http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s11.htm
[07:08] <woogles> Why not? It would certainly have been pulled out of Earth's gravitational influence, since X is supposedly enough to stop the Earth rotating.
[07:08] <woogles> The moon proof doesn't say X isn't coming, it is saying X has in fact, never been here.
[07:08] <obany> woogles: that's no proof
[07:09] <woogles> Yet, an explained extra symbol on an ancient tablet interpretted by some guy is?
[07:11] <obany> we are not only talking about what Sitchin said, we are talking about more over here woogles
[07:12] <obany> 3600 shift http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo272.htm
[07:13] <woogles> Ok, fine, you won't accept the moon thing, I can handle that.   My next thing is, do you agree planet x was here in 1628 BC?
[07:14] <obany> i believe it was her at that time of the Jewish Exodus so
[07:18] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword082.htm
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[07:47] <woogles> I saw this really nice animation thingy on planet x once, about how money will lose value and what not.. anyone know what I'm talking about, and if so happen to have a link to it?
[07:50] <obany> moment
[07:51] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo07f.htm one link aint working
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[07:55] <woogles> ah thanks.
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[09:40] <obany> oh himitus couldn't you stand it that Nancy posted about your fellow sci.astro member ...
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[09:41] <Himitsu> not at all
[09:41] <Himitsu> just that when she posts she sounds like an idiot
[09:41] <Himitsu> and a troll
[09:42] <Himitsu> lol
[09:42] <obany> she didn't .... or do you also think that gypsies are from Hungaria?
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[09:42] <Himitsu> I could care less about either gypsies or hungaria
[09:43] <Himitsu> but nancy sounded like an idiot in sci.astro
[09:43] <Himitsu> so I told her
[09:43] <Himitsu> hehe
[09:43] <Himitsu> stupid is as stupid does I suppose
[09:44] <Himitsu> and I still can't see where Silk used insults
[09:45] <Himitsu> maybe you can see them obany?
[09:45] <Himitsu> if you use your sooper seeecrit decoder ring, but I can't find the insults Silk supposedly used against your queen nancy
[09:47] <Himitsu> kind of quiet obany
[09:47] <Himitsu> can't find it?
[09:47] <Himitsu> didn't think so
[09:48] <obany> and where does Nancy in this posting mention the word insult
[09:48] <Himitsu> Walking into a next of Hungarians, including the ZetaTalk Hungarian
[09:48] <Himitsu> translator, and having put her shoes in her mouth, once again, big time,
[09:48] <Himitsu> does she admt to being WRONG, or does she try to change the subject by
[09:48] <Himitsu> throwing insults  (capitalized for emphasis below) and distractions?
[09:48] <Himitsu> Such are the ethics of the new self appointed Sheperd of Sci.Astro!
[09:48] <Himitsu> there
[09:48] <Himitsu> read
[09:48] <Himitsu> does she admt to being WRONG, or does she try to change the subject by
[09:48] <Himitsu> throwing insults  (capitalized for emphasis below) and distractions?
[09:49] <Himitsu> still can't find the insults obany. can you?
[09:49] <Himitsu> no?
[09:49] <Himitsu> didn't think so
[09:49] <Himitsu> seems your queen has some kind of a thing about Silk
[09:50] <obany> yes i see it now ...
[09:50] <Himitsu> where?
[09:51] <Himitsu> waiting
[09:51] <Himitsu> can't find it still?
[09:52] <Himitsu> getting it translated?
[09:52] <obany> just read the text again to what it says, did she says she are in the text from the chat/>
[09:52] <woogles> Maybe the nibiruians will come and the raelians will come, and have a big fight and leave humanity in a smoldering ruin of ash, did you ever thing of that?! huh? well did you?!
[09:52] <Himitsu> lol
[09:52] <woogles> ^think
[09:52] <woogles> sorry, I got carried away there.
[09:53] <Himitsu> obany, I bet if nancy threw sand on the ground, said it was grain and called you a chicken, you would peck at it
[09:54] <Himitsu> why don't you copy/paste what you think is an insult obany
[09:54] <Himitsu> I can't wait to see what you think it is
[09:54] <obany> i think she is meaning something else with that text himitsu ...
[09:55] <Himitsu> like what/
[09:55] <Himitsu> ?
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[09:55] <chickentonight> ehehhehehe
[09:55] <woogles> hehe
[09:55] <chickentonight> now wher are those nice wurms ... :
[09:55] <chickentonight> where
[09:55] <Himitsu> ask nancy
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[09:56] <Himitsu> since you guys are supposed to be eating bugs in 5 months, she should have logs full of grubs
[09:57] <obany> making fun out of Hungaria people ... well .. if that's so nice
[09:57] <Himitsu> where did she make fun of them?
[09:58] <woogles> You know bugs are actually a viable food source, containing many nutrients and proteins.  Indeed I should think in terms of cost effectiveness bug farms could one-up cow/pig/chicken farms
[09:58] <Himitsu> copy/paste obany
[09:58] <Himitsu> did she insult hungarians or not?
[09:58] <Himitsu> find it obany
[09:58] <Himitsu> she didn't did she
[09:58] <Himitsu> oh well
[09:59] <Himitsu> I think nancy is having a clean break with reality
[09:59] <obany> yes, go and defend your dear friend silk
[09:59] <obany> bye again
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[09:59] <Himitsu> I don't know silk
[09:59] <Himitsu> lol
[09:59] <Himitsu> runs away from his own channel
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[10:16] <obany> anoying himitsu .. if you do such a thing do it in private or so
[10:16] <obany> this is like flooding
[10:16] <Himitsu> or what?
[10:16] <Himitsu> it isn't flooding
[10:16] <Himitsu> flooding is the same thing over and over
[10:16] <juditness> not necessarily
[10:16] <juditness> =x
[10:17] <juditness> this
[10:17] <juditness> for
[10:17] <juditness> instance
[10:17] <juditness> also
[10:17] <juditness> counts
[10:17] <juditness> as
[10:17] <juditness> flooding.
[10:17] <z> it has been said that flooding is the same thing over and over
[10:17] <Himitsu> and I was asking a question anyway, that you wouldn't answer
[10:18] <Himitsu> ty Juditness, but that wasn't what I was doing
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[10:30] <[3j]> old
[10:30] <[3j]> mcdonald
[10:30] <[3j]> had
[10:30] <[3j]> a
[10:30] <[3j]> farm!
[10:30] <[3j]> eeee
[10:30] <[3j]> eyyyye
[10:30] <[3j]> eeee
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[10:30] <[3j]> eyeee
[10:30] <[3j]> ooooh!
[10:30] <juditness> erm
[10:30] <juditness> stop?
[10:30] <juditness> :/
[10:30] <juditness> please?
[10:30] * [3j] farts
[10:30] * Himitsu smells trouble
[10:31] <juditness> i said please.
[10:31] * juditness was nice for a change
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[11:49] <QueenVee>  FYI: A ZetaTalk session with Nancy Lieder will begin in #poleshiftdiscussion in about 45 minutes. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda.
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[12:07] <QueenVee>  FYI: A ZetaTalk session with Nancy Lieder will begin in #poleshiftdiscussion in about 20 minutes. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda.
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[12:26] <Jurian> god, this "persona" and "light bending" stuff is getting more and more hillarious
[12:26] <dwander> that's for sure
[12:27] <obany> show me the Planet .. huh that's what you are trying to say
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[12:28] <dwander> just amazed at the number of new "laws of physics unknown to human science" that seem to apply only to Px
[12:28] <obany> as where in that movie someoen says ... show me the money
[12:28] <Mr_Odd> tell me about it, dwander ;)
[12:29] <Mr_Odd> there's no end
[12:31] <woogles> At least to my knowledge, this woman is not by any means trained in physics, thus I could understand her inability to satisfactorly explain certain phenomena.
[12:32] <woogles> It would be like someone with a elementry education in math trying to explain shrodinger's equation after having been given only the base concept of it
[12:32] <Mr_Odd> yeah, but she's founding new laws of optics, planetary motion, gravity, and COMMON SENSE here
[12:32] <dwander> common sense?  I haven't seen that anywhere here....
[12:32] <Mr_Odd> ha
[12:33] <dwander> you left out magnetism...it's supposed to be Px's magnetic field that does the deeds to us
[12:33] <Mr_Odd> oh yes, of course
[12:34] <Mr_Odd> and geophysics as well
[12:34] <Jurian> hehe
[12:35] <Jurian> the atomic clock stuff could well be true tho
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[12:35] <Jurian> I have several systems here, that sync with the atomic clock, and several I manually sync every month, the ones I sync manually, all are 9 seconds fast
[12:36] <dwander> some (VERY minor) rotation slowing has been going on ever since the ice started melting at the poles
[12:36] <Jurian> I wouldn't call 9 seconds a month very minor
[12:36] <Jurian> and its increasing as well
[12:36] <woogles> Some clocks have inate problems in their mechanism along such lines.
[12:36] <dwander> haven't seen data that says that much
[12:37] <woogles> ^innate
[12:37] <Jurian> uhhuh, all 4 of them happen to have the exact same problem
[12:37] <QueenVee>  FYI: A ZetaTalk session with Nancy Lieder is in progress in #poleshiftdiscussion. To get there, simply type the following and hit enter:  /join #poleshiftdiscussion
[12:38] <dwander> I wouldn't worry about it unless you see a steadily increasing error
[12:38] <Jurian> heh, it has been steadily increasing for a while :p
[12:39] <Jurian> used to be off by a second at most
[12:39] <Jurian> I dont worry about it tho :p
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[12:39] <woogles> Well why isn't _Everones_ clock off by 9 seconds a month?
[12:39] <woogles> oi dang typos
[12:40] <Jurian> exactly why I dont worry about it :p
[12:40] <Jurian> but, who says they aren't?
[12:40] <woogles> Well my watch isn't for one thing ;)
[12:40] <dwander> most clocks aren't accurate enough to even look at a few sec/month...most are a couple min/month off
[12:40] <Jurian> yeah, but ones that used to be accurate, dont suddenly start getting less accurate
[12:41] <woogles> Sure they due, thigns wear out.
[12:41] <Jurian> a crystal doesn't 'decay' and slow down
[12:41] <Mr_Odd> cesium atoms don't start decaying faster ;x
[12:41] <woogles> No, but electronics do. And batteries weaken.
[12:41] <kwandrie> most people d ont hardly notice if their cloclks are off by a few minutes much less a few seconds
[12:41] <Jurian> hehe, I know
[12:42] <Jurian> hence, I don't give a shit :p
[12:42] <kwandrie> people in zt have been following this for a while and it has been changing
[12:42] <Jurian> just find it curious :)
[12:42] <Jurian> brb, getting a beer
[12:42] <dwander> now if we start loosing a minute/DAY, then I'd worry
[12:45] <kwandrie> b2late by then
[12:45] <dwander> never too late
[12:45] <kwandrie> i mean for those not prepared to prepare, except to say their prayers
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[12:46] <dwander> hehe...my normal life is about as 'prepared' as one can easily get anyway...:)
[12:47] <woogles> We all gota die someday, does it really matter when or how in the scheme of things?
[12:47] <dwander> you heading to Iraq, woogles??  :)
[12:48] <woogles> Nope, but I very much believe that people as a whole need to start accepting mortality, as our struggle against death causes more problems than good.
[12:49] <dwander> certainly causes insane medical bills....:)
[12:49] <Mr_Odd> ive recenty come to terms with death much more wholly than i ever have before
[12:49] <dwander> did you know that over 90% of medical costs are in the final 6 months of life?  didn't do them much good, did it?  :)
[12:49] <Mr_Odd> I'm not as fearful as I once was
[12:49] <Jurian> heh, I'm not afraid to die
[12:50] <Jurian> just hope that when I die, its not too painful
[12:50] <Mr_Odd> werd to that.
[12:50] <Mr_Odd> ;p
[12:50] <dwander> I'm not afraid to die...but I don't expect to any time soon
[12:50] <dwander> probably live to be 100+
[12:50] <Jurian> me neither
[12:50] <woogles> If you can end your fear of death, and all possible things that may occur after death, you can end all yours fears. For all your fears ultimately lead back to those two fears.
[12:50] <Jurian> not true
[12:51] <Jurian> I fear being in a lot of pain, much more than I'll ever fear death
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[13:02] <dwander> hehe...wonder where those months of time are supposed to be squeezed into the timetable...
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[13:06] <dwander> gov bunkers and de-bunkers...:)
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[13:13] <Jorune> oh common... a hole in minn is not proof of planet x
[13:14] <woogles> Well considering she went on to describe something other than the question...
[13:14] <Jorune> ya, that too... she doesn't even know about the hole
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[13:15] <obany> Jorune: she has to know about the issue ... keep that in mind
[13:15] <Jorune> oh?  I thought the Zeta's were talking... my mistake.  :)
[13:16] <obany> Yes they where ....... but keep in mind that we are talking about telepathy here
[13:16] <obany> you won't suddenly speak some kind of strange language if you recieve telepathic thoughts
[13:17] <Jorune> k, noted
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[13:23] <Jorune> MJ12?
[13:24] <woogles> google it
[13:24] <obany> Jorune: check www.zetatalk.com ... goverment section
[13:24] <Jorune> k, noted
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[13:35] <woogles> sto? sts?
[13:35] <woogles> I'm not a fan of arconyms.
[13:36] <obany> service to others service to self
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[13:41] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in #poleshiftdiscussion has ended. She will conduct a second ZetaTalk Session in the #zetatalk channel in approximately 20 minutes. To get to that channel, simply type the following and hit enter:  /join #zetatalk
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[13:57] <StevenB> hi
[13:57] <z> que tal, StevenB
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[14:10] <Sapphire> 115 people isn't bad...maybe it's a record?
[14:11] <Spanky__> you reach 115, you start generating gravity :)
[14:11] <woogles> How can they buy, if no one will sell...
[14:12] <Sapphire> IMO revealed himself as John Oliver.
[14:12] <Sapphire> It took him long enough.
[14:13] <S7L> John Oliver? Who's that?
[14:13] <obany> IMO
[14:13] <Sapphire> http://www.skepticalmind.com/journal/index.html
[14:13] <S7L> yeah but never heard of the name anyway
[14:14] <BC> hey 7... long time no see...
[14:14] <S7L> hi
[14:14] <BC> those zetas overgeneralize so much...
[14:14] <BC> 'firms going belly up' etc etc...
[14:14] <S7L> yeah
[14:15] <S7L> I for one would gladly accept even more money, our company is floating pretty good
[14:15] <S7L> the most profitable year in its 10-year history is behind us
[14:15] <BC> wow.. not bad....
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[14:16] <Sapphire> If you think about it...93-94% of people who want jobs have jobs in US.  Hardly an economic "collapse".
[14:17] <BC> sapphire, the manufacturing is gone....
[14:17] <S7L> Although it's said that the economy has been in the downfall for a few years.
[14:17] <BC> service jobs create no real wealth...
[14:17] <BC> i do think the economy is in bad shape though...
[14:17] <Sapphire> We've been moving from manufacturing to service for a couple decades now.
[14:17] <BC> too much debt...
[14:18] <BC> trade imbalance... weaker dollar....
[14:21] <raincity> Sapphire: from your site it seems that the shift is merely a soap opera in your mind.
[14:21] <S7L> Sapphire, make the link to John Oliver's homepage a clickable link
[14:22] <Sapphire> Ah, the link...I'll fix it.  I forgot.
[14:22] <Sapphire> raincity: this whole PX movement is like a soap opera...more interesting in some ways.
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[14:24] <Sapphire> ok, fixed the link.
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[14:38] <Sapphire> Just like old times...Queen booted me again.
[14:38] <Sapphire> lol
[14:38] <woogles> What'd you do, piss her off a while ago?
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[14:39] <Sapphire> I just went in her channel and said happy new year.
[14:39] <Sapphire> She booted me.
[14:39] <woogles> Yes, I saw that, but it seems a past issue was at cause.
[14:39] <Sapphire> I think so.
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[14:41] <monk> maybe she doesn't like u
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[14:41] <Sapphire> yeah, that happens.
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[15:22] <Jurian> haha, yes S7L, don't disinfo like you like to do!! :P
[15:22] <Jurian> you evil disinfo artist! :P
[15:22] <S7L> Yeah right
[15:24] <monk> lol
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[15:25] <Jurian> hehe
[15:26] <monk> this is funny stuff it goes back and forth
[15:26] <S7L> I was wrong to say a word anyway
[15:26] <S7L> I just thought I read somenoe said 7 weeks prior it would be a daytime visible object and thought to put slightly more pressure on her when ti doesn't show up.
[15:26] <S7L> That was my evil plan, now curse me.
[15:26] <woogles> You won't be alone in that one
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[15:27] <monk> it is 7 weeks prior thats it gonna be visable by the naked eye from may 15
[15:27] <S7L> Nancy is really paranoid. All that talk about someone going after someone
[15:27] <monk> as what nancy says at least
[15:28] <S7L> visible by the naked eye is pretty obscure. I mean, she'll rewrite that to visible to the naked eye staring a computer-processed picture.
[15:28] <Bip-Bip> hehe
[15:28] <woogles> ok too many damn people in #zetatalk
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[17:09] <Howmo> What's new sports fans?
[17:09] <Howmo> Hi S7L.
[17:10] <Howmo> Anybody?
[17:10] <woogles> .
[17:10] <woogles> .
[17:10] <woogles> oops
[17:10] <woogles> hello
[17:10] <z> niihau, woogles
[17:10] <Howmo> Any conversation here?
[17:11] <Howmo> z, niihau?
[17:12] <Howmo> Oh well....
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[17:56] <dwander> hi
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[18:49] <Guest1> all is quiet on the front
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[19:35] <haccess> http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=451&category=Environment
[19:35] <haccess> omg wtf
[19:35] <haccess> find one dead deer and all of a sudden you have evidence for big foot!
[19:38] <Buddha> hello
[19:38] <z> niihau, Buddha
[19:38] <Buddha> niihau
[20:03] <[3j]> niihau
[20:03] <[3j]> anyone know what it means? :)
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[20:52] <GayFDoe> hello everyone!
[20:54] <GayFDoe> lots of people are in here this chat and no communing?
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