Session Start: Sun Jan 05 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #Troubled_Times
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[02:51] <BoY> hi Mr_Odd
[02:54] <Mr_Odd> hello
[02:54] <z> what's up, Mr_Odd
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[05:23] <Jurian> mornin
[05:23] <Earth420> hey
[05:23] <Earth420> life!
[05:24] <Jurian> is it? or is it artificial intelligence? :p
[05:24] <Earth420> you tell me!
[05:24] <Earth420> Jurian, where you at again?
[05:24] <Jurian> just remember.. there is no spoon!
[05:24] <Jurian> I'm in sweden
[05:25] <Earth420> Im the one in S.Ca. the ant that will have the kiddie pool dumped
[05:25] <Jurian> hehe
[05:25] <Earth420> one sec, son up, 5 tirty here
[05:26] <Jurian> hehe :p
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[05:28] <Earth420> ok
[05:29] <Earth420> So how does this work, people who believe, and dont believe in the shift, come here?
[05:29] <Jurian> yep
[05:29] <Earth420> so there is no way to get around the fighting...
[05:30] <Jurian> there is, you can go to #poleshiftdiscussion
[05:30] <Earth420> been there
[05:30] <Earth420> remember, Im the ant
[05:30] <Jurian> hehe :p
[05:30] <Earth420> kiddie pool getting dumped
[05:30] <Earth420> so here I am!
[05:30] <Jurian> well, in here, most people want proof, before believing in planet x
[05:31] <Jurian> instead of just the "it feels right"
[05:31] <Earth420> understood
[05:31] <Earth420> I was fortunate to have other "experiences" that lead me to my conclusion..
[05:32] <Jurian> heh, I think that "I want to believe" applies to most people who say this poleshift thing just "made sense, in an unexplainable way"
[05:32] <Earth420> No, thats not how I work
[05:32] <Jurian> I do believe (or hope?) that something big like a poleshift, will happen soon
[05:33] <Earth420> Plain and simply put, we need it...
[05:33] <Jurian> yep
[05:33] <Earth420> Its 80 degrees here this week
[05:33] <Earth420> in Calli not for Jan.
[05:33] <Earth420> by this time in summer
[05:33] <Earth420> we will bake
[05:34] <Jurian> it was -22F here yesterday
[05:34] <Earth420> wo
[05:34] <Jurian> supposed to be 10, this time of the year
[05:34] <Earth420> weirdness. No matter what I do, I see that definitely something is affecting us
[05:35] <Earth420> And have a friend that says something is pulling on our planets out there
[05:35] <Earth420> He is almost convinced, but wont move
[05:36] <Earth420> like me... except he is on the east coast, says he is a good swimmer, was a lifeguard
[05:36] <Earth420> So I am meeting believers who will have to face this in a not safe area
[05:37] <Earth420> What was your take on the discussion yesterday?
[05:38] <Earth420> It was my first. I was disappointed by the fighting
[05:38] <Earth420> I even got ugly
[05:38] <Earth420> It will just get worse in the months ahead I think
[05:38] <Earth420> you fall asleep?
[05:38] <Earth420> Makin you tyawn?
[05:38] <Earth420> yawn
[05:40] <Earth420> I guess no one else wants to say nothing? I guess I will wait...
[05:41] <Jurian> heh, the fighting is pretty disgusting
[05:41] <Jurian> getting worse lately
[05:41] <Earth420> hey there you are!
[05:41] <Earth420> I thought I lost my only friend!
[05:41] <Jurian> heh, sorry, was looking the other way :p
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[05:42] <Earth420> Ha! For the people in here it is quiet
[05:42] <Earth420> but I wasnt nice yesterday
[05:43] <Earth420> Thats Ok, Jurian you know what 420 means?
[05:43] <Earth420> you havent asked yet...
[05:43] <Jurian> no, no idea :p
[05:44] <Jurian> in my 4 years of being an IRC server admin, I've stopped asking people wtf their nickname means :p
[05:44] <Earth420> wow
[05:44] <Jurian> cause most of the times, it doesn't mean shit :p
[05:44] <Earth420> in Calli here, it is a number that stands for mary jane... smokin the earth
[05:44] <Himitsu> Himitsu is Japanese...means secret!
[05:45] <Himitsu> lol
[05:45] <Earth420> there you go!
[05:45] <Earth420> I dont drink, or do any man made drug
[05:45] <Jurian> heh, I only occasionally drink a beer
[05:45] <Earth420> Healthy as a horse, even with my lungs coated!
[05:45] <Jurian> like.. 2 a month, tops
[05:46] <Jurian> never smoked, never will
[05:46] <Earth420> I am an advocate for the reforming of marij laws
[05:46] <Jurian> used to drink loads of coca cola, but stopped that, and haven't had a drop in over 3 years now
[05:46] <Earth420> Its ok Jurian, I am sure you would with me!
[05:47] <Earth420> Its cool though, there are medicinal benefits
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[05:47] <Jurian> cola is evil
[05:48] <Earth420> We as a people could not even get ovewr that issue, to let people decide for themselves
[05:48] <Jurian> and I'll NEVER smoke
[05:48] <Earth420> How old are you jurian
[05:48] <Himitsu> coffee is the stuff of life
[05:48] <Himitsu> ambrosia
[05:48] <Earth420> Drinkin my coffee now
[05:48] <Jurian> 22
[05:48] <Jurian> I dont drink coffee either
[05:48] <Earth420> Ha! I am 23
[05:49] <Jurian> Earth420: you just said you dont do drugs.. coffee damn well is a drug :p
[05:49] <Himitsu> there is this stuff here called Georgia Coffee
[05:49] <Himitsu> it is sooooo good
[05:49] <Himitsu> you can buy it in vending machines
[05:49] <Jurian> coffee is disgusting
[05:49] <Himitsu> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm bono!
[05:49] <Earth420> In a way, the caffeine is still derived
[05:49] <Himitsu> coffee good!
[05:49] <Jurian> coffee bad!
[05:49] <Earth420> Besides, I need something to give me more energy!
[05:49] <Earth420> No kids J
[05:49] <Himitsu> goooooooood coffee
[05:49] <Himitsu> my crutch, oh how I love you
[05:50] <Jurian> kids? nope
[05:50] <Himitsu> let me count the wayssssss
[05:50] <Jurian> I'm a geek :p
[05:50] <Himitsu> I am a coffee adict
[05:50] <Himitsu> addict
[05:50] <Jurian> no girlfriend, no kids :p
[05:50] <Earth420> 3 yr old girl, almost 2 year old boy... they have me running to the coffee in the mornin, so I need it
[05:50] <Himitsu> I have a needle in my arm for coffee
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[05:50] <Layberinthius> who wants coffee?
[05:50] <Himitsu> meeeeeeeee
[05:50] <Earth420> No geek J Man...
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[05:51] <Earth420> Just no strings
[05:51] <Himitsu> Georgia Coffee rocks
[05:51] <Earth420> Himitsu, where oyu at?
[05:51] <Himitsu> Japan
[05:52] <Layberinthius> !country pt
[05:52] <Earth420> Really?  Sweden, Japan, s. Calli, and?
[05:52] <Himitsu> freax's room!
[05:52] <Layberinthius> Australia..
[05:52] <z> australia is full of washing machines
[05:52] <Earth420> Mixin it up yo!
[05:52] <Layberinthius> damn straight
[05:52] <Himitsu> z is smart
[05:52] <Layberinthius> z is a noob
[05:52] <Layberinthius> =P
[05:52] <Jurian> lol
[05:52] <Jurian> country pt
[05:52] <Himitsu> z is autistic
[05:53] <Himitsu> 5465436 times 4352654
[05:53] <z> 23789151867144
[05:53] <Himitsu> good z
[05:53] <Layberinthius> heh
[05:53] <Layberinthius> yep
[05:53] <Jurian> queenvee?
[05:53] <Himitsu> well
[05:53] <Layberinthius> queenvee?
[05:53] <z> queenvee is a hottie.. not like you Layberinthius
[05:53] <Jurian> z, queenvee?
[05:53] <Layberinthius> rofl
[05:53] <Himitsu> z is an idiot savant
[05:53] <Layberinthius> country .pt
[05:53] <Himitsu> queenvee is just an idiot
[05:53] <Layberinthius> country pt
[05:53] <Himitsu> http://softdrinks.org/asd0208a/georgia200208_2.htm
[05:54] <Himitsu> http://softdrinks.org/asd0208a/georgia200208.htm
[05:54] <Himitsu> number 4 is thee best
[05:54] <Earth420> Dont do soda though
[05:54] <Layberinthius> Jurian does soda
[05:54] <Layberinthius> i do soda
[05:55] <Earth420> its all good, in the neighborhood
[05:55] <Earth420> like I say, aint no rain on my parade
[05:55] <Earth420> dont hate, congratulate!
[05:55] <Earth420> whats uppa dudes?
[05:56] <Earth420> ha sorry!
[05:56] <Himitsu> no worries, people get busy sometimes
[05:56] <Earth420> true dat
[05:56] <Layberinthius> damn, i like rain
[05:57] <Earth420> I will be back... no talking smak on me, ah ite?
[05:58] <Earth420> Jst kidn
[05:58] <Layberinthius> ok brotha
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[05:59] <Layberinthius> nice job
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[06:09] <Layberinthius> mmm
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[06:17] <Earth420> whats up
[06:18] <Layberinthius> nothing
[06:18] <Earth420> cool beans dude
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[08:04] <Howmo> Anybody?
[08:04] <JurAFK> hrm, some freak stole an airplane in germany
[08:04] <JurAFK> threatening to fly into the national bank
[08:05] <JurAFK> stupid dumbass
[08:05] <Howmo> Right now?
[08:05] <JurAFK> yeah
[08:05] <JurAFK> small plane tho
[08:05] <Howmo> Is it on CNN?
[08:05] <Howmo> Live?
[08:05] <JurAFK> its on msnbc here
[08:05] <Howmo> That is like the car chases..
[08:06] <Howmo> You saw it LIVE!
[08:06] <JurAFK> oh, he's gonna land on the airport
[08:06] <JurAFK> boring
[08:06] <Howmo> So, what's the latest with Nancy?
[08:06] <JurAFK> how gay, military planes sent up to "shoot it down" if it gets too dangerous
[08:07] <JurAFK> dunno, not paying much attention to nancytalk lately :p
[08:07] <Howmo> IMO has now identified himself....
[08:07] <JurAFK> yeah :)
[08:07] <Howmo> Now Nancy will have to find some other way to attack him.
[08:08] <JurAFK> why, he's still payed by nasa, of course! :p
[08:08] <Howmo> Actually, so has Sarah, but nancy forgets that.
[08:08] <JurAFK> maybe only one of nancy's persona read it :p
[08:08] <Howmo> !
[08:09] <JurAFK> she probably came up with planet x's personae, cause she herself has multiple! :p
[08:09] <JurAFK> nancy normally, white persona
[08:09] <JurAFK> nancy angry, red persona!
[08:09] <Howmo> I was uphauled to find yesterday that people believe the images show PX.
[08:09] <Howmo> They are spreading that around.
[08:09] <woogles> ah yes that reminds me howmo
[08:10] <Howmo> As if it were true.
[08:10] <Howmo> ?
[08:10] <Howmo> Yes?
[08:10] <JurAFK> heh, I dont know what that stuff is on the pics, but I have a VERY difficult time taking those pictures as "evidence" of planet x
[08:10] <woogles> http://www.geocities.com/zeroun49x2/x.bmp
[08:10] <woogles> In 2 seconds I made a picture about as convincing as theirs
[08:11] <Howmo> I can't figure out why Havas is being so dnese.
[08:11] <Howmo> dense.
[08:11] <Howmo> I would have thought he would figure it out by now.
[08:11] <JurAFK> heh, well, I'm glad someone is making pictures
[08:12] <Howmo> He is seduced by the "contactee" status he holds.
[08:12] <Howmo> Yes, I'm really glad he got pics.
[08:12] <JurAFK> as long as he's providing the raw fits files, I think he should keep it up, for at least 2 more months
[08:12] <Howmo> I'm sure Nancy will push it through to "in the Sun" time again.
[08:13] <Howmo> Then it will float on into May...
[08:13] <JurAFK> lol
[08:13] <Howmo> Where she will have people out staring directly into the Sun.
[08:13] <JurAFK> if, by the end of februari, there are no obvious pictures, zetatalk is gonna be dead rather fast
[08:13] <woogles> lo, if they want to go blind letthem
[08:13] <JurAFK> http://europe.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/01/05/germany.cessna/index.html
[08:14] <Howmo> Nope. It will live on until "naked eye visible".
[08:14] <Howmo> At least..
[08:14] <woogles> who the heck is charles resnick?
[08:14] <JurAFK> fucked if I know
[08:14] <Howmo> ?
[08:14] <JurAFK> Howmo: not on this irc network it wont :p
[08:15] <woogles> if planet x is naked eye visible when it should be, the whole thing is basically over. sitchen and hazlewood who don't push 2003 may still holdt hat planet x exist, but nancy is pretty much done with
[08:15] <woogles> is not rather ^
[08:16] <Howmo> Other people are already setting new dates...
[08:16] <woogles> I know, I've seen people saying its a range now, up to as far as 2012
[08:16] <Howmo> Nancy will be saying that people ARE seeing it in April.
[08:16] <[3j]> !@!
[08:17] <JurAFK> I'm willing to give it up to march, after that, unless there's any GOOD pictures showing some OBVIOUS object, I'll drop every bit of support I've given zetatalk
[08:17] <[3j]> aaah!
[08:17] <[3j]> Im GoIn OfF tHe RaIlS oN A CrAzY TrAiN!
[08:17] <JurAFK> 570p 74lk1ng 1n 5uch 4 l337 w4y dud3!
[08:17] <woogles> uh all you have to do is look up Howmo
[08:17] <Howmo> Jur, there can be no pics in March- it will be "in the Sun".
[08:17] <[3j]> guess im the only one who digs ozzy
[08:18] <JurAFK> what, again?
[08:18] <JurAFK> hrm, yeah, fair enough
[08:18] <woogles> if it is "in the sun" there will a dark spot on the sun, an eclipse of sorts, of a magnitude directly related to the size of planet x
[08:18] <Howmo> I don't know exactly when, but Nancy's coords will go near the Sun again in the spring.
[08:18] <Howmo> No pics possible.
[08:18] <JurAFK> hehe
[08:19] <Howmo> Nancy will push the illusion untill no pics are possible.
[08:19] <Howmo> Then it's "naked eye" time.
[08:20] <woogles> just get some nice sun glasses ;)
[08:20] <JurAFK> well, it should get much much clearer the coming 2 months
[08:20] <JurAFK> if not, its over, as far as I'm concerned
[08:20] <Howmo> Many sunglasses are not safe for Solar viewing.
[08:21] <woogles> People observe the solar eciplse events without going blind, so certainly they could look atthis
[08:21] <Howmo> Jur, it should be the brightest thing in the images NOW.
[08:21] <JurAFK> Howmo: I know :)
[08:21] <Howmo> Woo, yes, if they know what they are doing.
[08:22] <JurAFK> but, for the sake of amusement, I'm willing to consider that this thing is, somehow, VERY different from what we normally see
[08:22] <Howmo> If they aren't careful...it's bad...
[08:22] <JurAFK> altho, I must say, the "personae" and "different light spectrum" and "red light bending" is starting to sound rather hillarious
[08:22] <Howmo> Jur, except that Havas "saw" it ZETA CONFIRMED, two years ago!!
[08:23] <JurAFK> haha, yeah, well, he must have super eyes
[08:23] <JurAFK> or "the zeta's made him see it" :p
[08:23] <JurAFK> big zeta space-lense ship! :p
[08:24] <Howmo> Did you see on QV's chat where the "zetas" confirmed something that didn't happen?
[08:24] <Howmo> The "dropping lake bottom"?
[08:24] <JurAFK> nope?
[08:24] <[3j]> too much rum and coke :(
[08:24] <JurAFK> nancy's red persona was speaking :p
[08:25] <JurAFK> or was it the green one
[08:25] <JurAFK> damn, all these personae are confusing!
[08:25] <Howmo> Nancy misunderstood the question and the "zetas" CONFIRMED an earth-change item that never happened.
[08:25] <woogles> has she ever said why planetx is the onlything with this persona crap?
[08:25] <JurAFK> lol
[08:25] <Howmo> Look at a log of QV's chat.
[08:26] <JurAFK> yesterday's log?
[08:26] <Howmo> Woo, yes she chalks it up to distance.
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[08:26] <Howmo> Jur, yes.
[08:26] <woogles> heh yeah that was quite interesting, watching her explain something that didn't happen
[08:26] <Howmo> Uh oh... it's the fuzz...
[08:26] <obany> wlcm to ztdebunk
[08:26] <Howmo> ?
[08:26] <obany> hi homo
[08:27] <Howmo> That's "howmo", obany.
[08:27] <obany> oooh sigh i forgot the w .. idon't
[08:27] <Howmo> So, obany, how is Nancy going to attack IMO now?
[08:27] <Howmo> He has identified himself.
[08:27] <obany> so, what homwo so what
[08:28] <obany> what does it say that he told he is a proffesor
[08:28] <Howmo> "So what"? That is the only basis upon which she has attacked him.
[08:28] <Howmo> nancy has NEVER addressed his work on theimages.
[08:29] <Howmo> Neither has DEll, Havas, ANYBODY....
[08:29] <Howmo> Only personal attacks on IMO, Sarah, me....
[08:29] <obany> maybe it's time for a masskick here ... and then put an i on it .. this channel basicly is starting to suck
[08:29] <obany> and i find that to bad
[08:30] <Howmo> Why, because we are seeing through to the truth?
[08:30] <obany> sigh
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[08:30] <woogles> obany, with all due respect, people have a right to question things.
[08:30] <JurAFK> heh
[08:30] <Howmo> He's gone.
[08:30] <JurAFK> issues..
[08:31] <Howmo> Obany is maybe the most dense person I have ever seen.
[08:31] <woogles> he or she is one of the one's who bothers me, I pushed him yesterday with questions and all he could do is quote the ZT site
[08:31] <Howmo> He cannot see anything else.
[08:31] <JurAFK> haha, he is, trust me, I've seen him in real life a few times..
[08:31] <Howmo> REally?
[08:31] <JurAFK> yeah
[08:32] <Howmo> He acts like he is about 12.
[08:32] <Howmo> or 10.
[08:32] <JurAFK> or 8
[08:32] <woogles> I think obany will kill himself if planet x doesnt come
[08:33] <Howmo> When I show him something he doesn't want to see, he throws a tantrum.
[08:33] <JurAFK> no, I dont think he will kill himself
[08:33] <JurAFK> he's back :p
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[08:33] <Howmo> So, obany, how are you?
[08:33] <obany> why you ask howmo, i am fine ..
[08:34] <Howmo> I just don't know what to say to you.
[08:34] <Howmo> you won't discuss the errors in Nancy's claims...
[08:34] <Howmo> YUou jsut get mad...
[08:34] <obany> ooh come one go back to your bunc of friend on sci.astro
[08:34] <obany> i am not going to discuss Nancy's errors with you
[08:35] <Howmo> Like I said....
[08:35] <woogles> Your statement implies your recognition of there being errors to discuss
[08:35] <Howmo> you just want to hide your head...
[08:35] <Howmo> I don't think he meant that...
[08:35] <obany> woogles: that's what you think
[08:35] <Howmo> He admits NO errors....
[08:35] <obany> and i don't want to hide my head
[08:36] <woogles> Actually it was due to a linguistical error in your phrasing.
[08:36] <Howmo> Then why don't you look at the various work on the images?
[08:36] <obany> you won't get me of my track, so say anything you want ... to me you won't get far
[08:36] <Howmo> Why don't you see that nancy can't fault IMO's work?
[08:36] <obany> goto #astronomy or whatever
[08:37] <Howmo> She can only attack him personally.
[08:37] <obany> this is #troubled_times
[08:37] <Howmo> The "trouble" is with nancy.
[08:37] <JurAFK> well, zetatalk being right or wrong, is pretty troublesome
[08:37] <Howmo> Obany, Nancy talks about astronomy things!
[08:37] <Howmo> Why can't we?
[08:37] <obany> Jurian: spoken like a true Dutchman wether you like it or not you are influenced by calvinism
[08:38] <JurAFK> no, by common sense
[08:38] <obany> see first then i believe, .... the hollandse nuchterheid ... geef nou maar toe
[08:38] <Howmo> Dell talks about "increasing brightness", why can't we?
[08:39] <JurAFK> that's not dutch, that's something most people with a brain have
[08:39] <obany> je wilt gewoon een goede foto zien ... geen geneuzel etc ... gewoon duidelijk ...
[08:39] <obany> Jurian: don't say i don't have a brain, as i have one
[08:39] <obany> you know me better then that
[08:39] <JurAFK> I didn't say you dont have one
[08:39] <obany> k
[08:39] <Howmo> See what? There is no object in the images.
[08:39] <[3j]> goldmember was dutch thus holland = evil
[08:40] <Howmo> Dutch looks cool in print.
[08:40] <JurAFK> as for me being a "typical dutchmen", I am not
[08:40] <Howmo> Looks unpronouncable.
[08:40] <[3j]> only flandres is okay
[08:40] <JurAFK> I wouldn't be living in sweden, if I loved holland :p
[08:40] <Howmo> What is the deal with Holland? Is it sinking?
[08:40] <JurAFK> I very much doubt I'll go back to holland, if I can manage to find a good house here :p
[08:41] <JurAFK> holland is some 30 metres below sea level :p
[08:41] <Howmo> It would seem that Holland would be done for.
[08:41] <obany> so Jurian for now it's   "it's not going to happen, unless i see it clearly"  
[08:41] <obany> ?
[08:41] <Howmo> Sounds logical to me...
[08:41] <JurAFK> obany: now it is "it MAY happen, but its getting less and less likely with each passing day"
[08:42] <obany> so even hurricanes etc in Germany etc are not convincing for you .. ??
[08:42] <JurAFK> nope
[08:42] <Howmo> Here's the thing... Nancy has attacked anyone who differed with her.
[08:42] <Howmo> But those people were right.
[08:43] <Howmo> There is no new object in the images.
[08:43] <Howmo> That is what we were witing for.
[08:43] <Howmo> waiting.
[08:43] <Howmo> for.
[08:43] <woogles> See, if this planet x is is so valid, you should be able to defend it in a calm and rational manner, and discuss it likewise. But I don't see that, I just see believers closing themselves off from questions
[08:43] <obany> somehow i think that it will be better to leave this channel until some of you see it in the sky ... then maybe this channel will change back into his old function
[08:43] <Howmo> The jury is in.
[08:43] <obany> right now it sucks
[08:43] <Howmo> Until?
[08:43] <obany> with allo those sci.astro loonies
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[08:43] <Howmo> Loonies?
[08:44] <JurAFK> fine
[08:44] <JurAFK> !users
[08:44] <Howmo> There he goes.........
[08:44] <JurAFK> !delowner obany
[08:44] <Howmo> Total denial.....
[08:44] <JurAFK> there we go
[08:44] <[3j]> there we go what?
[08:44] <Howmo> He is so ego-invested in it showing up.
[08:44] <[3j]> obany quit this # a long time ago to PSD
[08:44] <woogles> I think you need to find a happy medium, be open minded but not gullible
[08:45] <JurAFK> yeah, but now he's no longer an op here :p
[08:45] <Howmo> REally?
[08:45] <JurAFK> yep
[08:45] <JurAFK> 17:44:15 | <JurAFK> !delowner obany
[08:45] <JurAFK> 17:44:17 | -ChanServ- Deleted an owner obany from the #Troubled_Times user list.
[08:45] <Howmo> Does tht mean I can now ask nancy about scope sizes, etc?
[08:46] <JurAFK> not really, nancy doesn't come in here :p
[08:46] <JurAFK> he's still op in #zetatalk
[08:46] <JurAFK> I'm not messing with that, at least, not quite yet
[08:46] <Howmo> Oh, I mean in #zetatalk.
[08:46] <Howmo> OK
[08:47] <Howmo> Obany was kicking me for ever ASKING him if I could ask Nancy that.
[08:47] <JurAFK> yeah well :)
[08:47] <[3j]> you dont mess around in there
[08:47] <JurAFK> hrm, I'm gonna go have dinner
[08:47] <JurAFK> back later :)
[08:47] <Howmo> bye
[08:47] <Howmo> Hey, if you can't ask Nancy what scope can see her planet, what does that mean?
[08:48] <Howmo> It is supposed to be "visible in amatuer scopes" after all..
[08:48] <Howmo> I have to get on with my day....
[08:48] <Howmo>  out.
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[09:31] <obany> !up
[09:32] <obany> !op obany
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[09:33] <obany> !up
[09:33] <obany> gvd
[09:33] <obany> Jurian ?
[09:34] <z> Jurian is gonna be pissed
[09:40] <obany> so i guess i don't have ops anymore in this channel
[09:40] <obany> it's now totaly in debunker hands i guess
[09:42] <obany> so why the heck is my status removed
[09:42] <obany> ?
[09:42] <obany> !op
[09:42] <obany> !u
[09:42] <obany> !up
[09:42] <obany> gvd
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[10:43] <cmell> hey
[10:44] <obany> !up
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[10:44] <obany> thnx
[10:45] * cmell nice to have a new king
[10:46] <QueenVee> King of the Trolls
[10:48] <cmell> lord of the rings :)
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[11:27] <haccess> http://us.imdb.com/Title?0319262   :o
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[13:48] <haccess> dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!
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[16:53] <stewart> hi
[16:53] <z> bonjour, stewart
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[17:03] <Guest> peace
[17:04] <Guest> why
[17:04] <monk> ?
[17:04] <Guest> what
[17:04] <monk> hi
[17:05] <Guest> hallo
[17:05] <Guest> who are you
[17:05] <monk> Monk
[17:05] <monk> who are you?
[17:05] <Guest> guest
[17:06] <monk> nice to meet you
[17:06] <woogles> Well it's a good thing we cleared that up...
[17:07] <Guest> it is very dificult to me to speak english
[17:08] <Guest> yoooooo
[17:10] <Guest> MONK
[17:11] <Guest> DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK WITH ME
[17:11] <Guest> OR WHO WANT
[17:11] <woogles> Relax.
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[17:13] <Guest> THANK YOU FOR YOUR  ADVISE
[17:13] <walt> GUEST what do you want to talk about
[17:14] <Guest> I DONT KNOW !!!!!!!
[17:14] <Guest> Where are you from
[17:16] <walt> USA Washington state
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[17:18] <Guest> im sorry
[17:19] <Guest> im from moscow
[17:20] <monk> its ok
[17:20] <Guest> американцы хуевы
[17:20] <Guest> why
[17:21] <Guest> why
[17:21] <monk> ?
[17:21] <Guest> why ok
[17:22] <monk> how you like moscow?
[17:23] <Guest> moscow is very big and expensive sity
[17:23] <Guest> where are you from
[17:24] <Guest> from russia with love
[17:24] <Guest> хуй вам сем американцам в рот!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:24] <woogles> ?
[17:25] <Guest> и тебе тоже ебырь
[17:25] <woogles> english please
[17:25] <z> english is the forth language or a good medium of communication
[17:26] <Guest> i understand
[17:26] <monk> usa california
[17:28] <Guest> russia- moscow -chertanovo-dnepropetrovskaya street hahahaha
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[17:32] <Guest1> somebody!!!!!!!please give me some http of americans chat
[17:33] <Guest1> PLEASE
[17:33] <woogles> You sound like an incompetant russian spy ;)
[17:33] <monk> im american
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[19:16] <Buddha> z, how long is a ten-foot pole?
[19:16] <z> buddha: no idea
[19:16] <Buddha> z, who is buried in grant's tomb?
[19:16] <z> i haven't a clue, buddha
[19:17] <Buddha> z, what did you get on the SATs?
[19:17] <z> bugger all, i dunno, buddha
[19:17] <Buddha> z, you are cool
[19:17] <z> ...but zyxw is just taken as a zombi to believe on this nonsense...
[19:38] <monk> hola
[19:38] <monk> salute
[19:38] <monk> hi
[19:42] <Buddha> hi
[19:42] <z> bonjour, Buddha
[19:42] <Buddha> ha!
[19:46] <monk> !!
[19:46] <monk> hi
[19:57] <Buddha> hi
[19:57] <monk> hows it going buddha
[19:57] <Buddha> illin
[19:57] <Buddha> you?
[19:57] <monk> feeling good
[19:57] <monk> off the chronic
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[19:59] <monk> watching cheech and chong
[20:01] <monk> what u doing
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[21:13] <dwander> hehe...guess they just auto-boot me from poleshiftdiscussion nowadays....sigh...
[21:13] <monk> :(
[21:13] <monk> come to channel #earthchanges
[21:13] <dwander> wouldn't want any of the unfaithful
[21:17] <monk> nope
[21:17] <dwander> they're going to remain faithful til May, I think
[21:18] <monk> maybe
[21:19] <dwander> hehe...I tried reminding a couple of them about how they used to say it would be obvious by Dec
[21:19] <monk> and its january
[21:20] <dwander> yep...and nothing, still
[21:20] <monk> nope
[21:20] <monk> it should get intresting in march and apirl
[21:20] <dwander> not that I had any expectations
[21:20] <monk> see how all this plays out
[21:20] <dwander> the excuses should be interresting
[21:20] <dwander> they're already working on delay tactics
[21:21] <monk> how would they be able to have delay tactics
[21:21] <monk> they already said it
[21:22] <dwander> yep, but they said it would only be inside Saturn for 3 months, so they can delay til end of March, at least
[21:22] <dwander> maybe halfway into April
[21:22] <walt> yep it will get interesting
[21:23] <monk> its suppose to be visable by the naked eye april 1st
[21:23] <dwander> and I wouldn't be surprised if they claim NASA or the STS aliens were cloaking it from view
[21:27] <dwander> if it were to suddenly appear on April 1st for Fool's day, that would be fun...:)
[21:27] <monk> nancy said its not a folls day joke
[21:28] <dwander> Maybe Nancy will come clean on April 1st and tell them all the truth...:)
[21:28] <monk> I wouldn't thinmk so
[21:28] <dwander> and they won't believe her!!!  :)
[21:29] <monk> alot of people already do believe her
[21:29] <dwander> a lot?  a few dozen really believe, I'd guess..not many more
[21:29] <monk> I wanna hear nancy on coast to coast in april
[21:29] <monk> see what she says
[21:30] <dwander> most just like listening to wuld stories
[21:30] <dwander> think she'll show?
[21:30] <monk> what if the aliens are lying to her ?
[21:30] <walt> Im there to pass out survival links
[21:31] <dwander> hehe...quite possible...all a test to see how many humans can be easily fooled by wild stories...:)
[21:31] <walt> Y2K proved that
[21:31] <dwander> what do you plan to survive, Walt?
[21:31] <walt> all sorts of wild stories of cover ups
[21:31] <walt> and concentration camps
[21:31] <walt> anything
[21:31] <z> anything is faster than this
[21:32] <monk> what if the united states government faked all of this what she says and put a telepathic devise in her head and put her on some drugs to see greys
[21:32] <monk> to put disinfo on the real aliens
[21:32] <dwander> Bush does seem to be trying to move us towards being a police state...:(
[21:32] <monk> z forget anything
[21:32] <z> monk: I forgot anything
[21:33] <monk> anything is like as it makes it
[21:33] <monk> z anything is like as it makes it
[21:33] <z> i already had it that way, monk.
[21:33] <monk> anything
[21:33] <z> i guess anything is like as it makes it
[21:40] <Buddha> hmm
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[21:40] <monk> hi
[21:40] <Buddha> monk, no i'm not high on the chronic (from a while back)
[21:40] <monk> i still am
[21:40] <Buddha> right on
[21:40] <monk> laughing my ass off
[21:41] <Buddha> i've been doing this stuff called reiki and meditating a lot, and weed really makes it powerful for about an hour, then i'm totally dead when i come down
[21:41] <monk> everything seems to make sense when your stoned
[21:41] <Buddha> yeah how to convert the stoned logic to sober life?
[21:41] <monk> its hard
[21:41] <Buddha> yeah i've been working hard at it
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[21:41] <Buddha> and it's time for me to take a few months off chronic
[21:41] <monk> I see blinking lights around me when im stoned
[21:42] <Buddha> dude go here:
[21:42] <Buddha> http://www.minkusmaz.com/rr/
[21:42] <Buddha> that stuff totally works
[21:42] <Buddha> i've been doing it for about a month now and it's completely changed my life
[21:42] <monk> how has it changed your life?
[21:42] <Buddha> well
[21:42] <Buddha> it sounds strange i know, but it's pretty much magical healing power
[21:43] <Buddha> it's impossible to explain all that it can do
[21:43] <monk> ahh magical power huh
[21:43] <Buddha> but getting it releases you from the huge stress cycle
[21:43] <Buddha> well it's not magical
[21:43] <Buddha> it's like unlocking a spot in your mind
[21:43] <Buddha> and getting hooked up to some nebulous source of chi
[21:43] <Buddha> you flow it out your palms into yourself or another person
[21:44] <Buddha> it dissipates stress and tension
[21:44] <monk> like energy ?
[21:44] <Buddha> yes
[21:44] <monk> going out of you
[21:44] <Buddha> chi
[21:44] <monk> and light ?
[21:44] <z> rumour has it light is fast
[21:44] <Buddha> not light
[21:44] <Buddha> like my palms get warm and my fingers feel sparks
[21:44] <Buddha> i feel vibrations and stuff too
[21:44] <monk> i feel it all the time
[21:44] <Buddha> yeah so did i, but you'd be surprised of the difference
[21:45] <Buddha> check it out and do level 1
[21:45] <Buddha> don't need to buy any books or any of that
[21:46] <monk> whenever i pray i see radiating energy around me
[21:46] <monk> and times durringthe day
[21:46] <Buddha> oh dude hook this stuff up then. my friend saw stuff like that too when he meditated and he's flying off the handle with this
[21:47] <monk> really
[21:47] <Buddha> you're scratching the surface of a massive world...it's human evolution
[21:47] <monk> evolution indeed
[21:48] <monk> im evolving thats for sure
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[21:49] <Buddha> hit it up then
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[21:49] <monk> what have u been experiencing by doing this
[21:50] <Buddha> you want anecdotes or philosophical changes?
[21:50] <monk> both
[21:51] <Buddha> ok first night i got it (right after the class that i paid $350 to attend)
[21:51] <Buddha> i went over to the drummer for my band's house (bad grammar)
[21:51] <Buddha> i knew that he had problems with the right side of his back and he regularly went to the chiro to get it fixed
[21:52] <Buddha> so i figured that if i've got chi flowing, maybe that will help
[21:52] <Buddha> i put my hands on his right latissimus dorsal (wing-shaped back muscle)
[21:52] <Buddha> and i started to flow it (you just think flow or whatever works for you)
[21:53] <Buddha> forgot to mention that we smoked a bowl first
[21:53] <monk> even better
[21:53] <Buddha> so my hands were hot, i was getting vibrational, and both of our breathing started to slow down
[21:53] <Buddha> the weird thing about reiki is that it puts stuff in your intuition, so if you're listening to it, it can help you out a LOT
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[21:54] <Buddha> and my intuition told me to switch where my hands were
[21:54] <Buddha> there was this bizarre raised square-type thing on the muscle. it must have been a knot or something
[21:54] <Buddha> so i flowed it and chilled out
[21:54] <Buddha> by this time i was hallucinating like mad (reiki + weed = hallucination)
[21:54] <Buddha> when my eyes were closed, that is
[21:55] <Buddha> i'd see strange, complex patterns that represented endless fields of energy
[21:55] <Buddha> and all of a sudden, the square type thing started to melt in my hand
[21:55] <Buddha> when it disappeared, the whole muscle relaxed
[21:55] <monk> endless fields of energy ?
[21:55] <monk> what do u mean
[21:55] <Buddha> well
[21:56] <Buddha> hooking up to reiki is pretty much hooking up to "god"
[21:56] <Buddha> and there is an endless supply of reiki
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[21:56] <Buddha> so what i was seeing was just the fields of it
[21:56] <monk> oh really ?
[21:56] <monk> intresting
[21:56] <Buddha> i've seen a number of those
[21:56] <Buddha> yeah
[21:56] <Buddha> like patterns, like glowing fields, like endless waterfalls
[21:57] <monk> I see the energy fields all the tie
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[21:57] <Buddha> i'd like to pretend that i made it up, but it was incredibly intricate
[21:57] <monk> I see it now
[21:57] <Buddha> right on
[21:58] <Buddha> but yeah my friend's back was fine for a couple days
[21:58] <Buddha> it's his "stress spot"
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[21:58] <Buddha> we've all got a place where we store all of our stress...mine is in my stomach and until last month, i got mega stomach pains 3 out of the 7 days of the week
[21:58] <Buddha> there's still a "black spot" in there that i'm trying to yank out
[21:59] <monk> I  wonder if I have one
[21:59] <Buddha> you definitely do
[21:59] <Buddha> seriously man you'd dig the reiki
[21:59] <Buddha> it's not tough to learn and all it takes is practice, which you can do at any time
[22:00] <Buddha> and it gets you really in touch with what's going on where and why
[22:00] <Buddha> my cat loves it
[22:00] <monk> whats the basics of it
[22:00] <Buddha> well
[22:01] <Buddha> the big thing that "hooks you up" to the power source is the attunement
[22:01] <Buddha> traditionally, a reiki master walks around and does a ritual to you
[22:01] <Buddha> and it gives you an insane mystical experience (what i got) or nothing at all. but you're hooked up either way
[22:02] <Buddha> there is First Degree, Second Degree, and Master
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[22:02] <Buddha> 1st is just starting and getting to know the powers and stuff
[22:02] <Buddha> all the pertinent info is on that site
[22:03] <Buddha> it's pretty subtle, but powerful once you get to know it
[22:03] <monk> I kinda dont wanna read that i already read 2 pages
[22:03] <Buddha> yeah it's poorly organized. i'm going to retool it. i copied the page from another location
[22:04] <Buddha> but it's there...the "magic" power is there
[22:04] <Buddha> so get it if you want it
[22:04] <Buddha> i paid $350 for a class to get I and II
[22:04] <monk> is there any pratices which raises your viberations or anything ?
[22:04] <Buddha> yeah just getting it raises your vibration a ton
[22:04] <Buddha> especially once you get to master
[22:05] <Buddha> i took the master attunement and my body bubbled for about a half hour releasing negative energy
[22:05] <monk> when i lay down my hands viberate first
[22:06] <Buddha> yeah every human is born with a sort of version of this
[22:06] <Buddha> but this is far more powerful
[22:06] <monk> just your body going to sleep
[22:06] <monk> and being relaxed
[22:07] <Buddha> sort of, but this is foreign energy with a consciousness
[22:07] <Buddha> it can't do anything other than good
[22:07] <monk> the energy thats all around us
[22:07] <Buddha> it's there
[22:07] <monk> I like looking at it dance around
[22:07] <Buddha> once you get symbols (level 2) and stuff, you can start blessing things and getting real power on
[22:07] <monk> its intresting to look at the energy
[22:07] <Buddha> i like looking in the sky and checking out the stuff flying there
[22:08] <monk> what stuff flying ? orbs?
[22:08] <Buddha> no, it's like you look up there on sunny days and there are tiny little things that pulsate in a rhythm
[22:08] <Buddha> living things soak it up
[22:08] <monk> oh yea
[22:08] <monk> dance around :)
[22:08] <monk> in like circles
[22:09] <Buddha> they fly for less than a second and disappear, but there are always thousands in a sunny sky
[22:09] <monk> thousands ? more like trillions
[22:09] <Buddha> from one perspective. i'm sure there are more than trillions too
[22:10] <monk> infinte
[22:10] <Buddha> this is truly a magical world
[22:10] <monk> its a beautiful world I think god everyday for it
[22:10] <monk> think=thank
[22:11] <Buddha> definitely
[22:11] <monk> thats like the first thing to do for your spiritual path
[22:11] <Buddha> start thanking god for stuff
[22:11] <monk> to love the earth and all there on it
[22:11] <Buddha> for being alive
[22:11] <monk> and respect it
[22:11] <monk> and being thankful for it
[22:11] <Buddha> right on
[22:12] <monk> :)
[22:12] <monk> its wondeful
[22:13] <Buddha> hook up the reiki flow. you will truly appreciate it.
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[22:13] <Buddha> i've gotta go to bed
[22:13] <Buddha> http://www.minkusmaz.com/rr/
[22:14] <Buddha> have fun man
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[22:15] <monk> bvye all
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