Session Start: Sat Oct 26 14:18:01 2002
Session Ident: #zetatalk
[14:18] * Now talking in #zetatalk
[14:18] <Jurian> earth isn't round
[14:18] <Jurian> not even close to it
[14:18] <Buente> pretty close
[14:18] <Jurian> take the water off, and its more like a potato
[14:18] <Buente> :)
[14:18] <Buente> yeah true
[14:18] <S7L> well, I think we can say Earth is a perfect sphere in some 99.7 % precision
[14:18] <ZooSpecimen> size makes a diff
[14:18] <Torbj> the water is a part of the planet
[14:18] <Jurian> S7L: only when counting the water as surface
[14:18] <S7L> Jurian: actually, the water is only 11 km deep on a sphere which has radius of 6000 km
[14:18] <S7L> do the math.
[14:18] <xiex> take the crust off and you have a liquidy magma sphere
[14:19] <Buente> jurian, space time curves is just the explanation of gravity, the bigger the mass the greater the curvature
[14:19] <Torbj> blow it up and you hava a lot of "not so round" aseroids
[14:19] <motai> Earth-Balls(tm), Crunchy, and spicy in the middle
[14:19] <Torbj> asteroids
[14:19] <Jurian> lol
[14:20] <SinthBaron> i have an asteroid in my pockeet
[14:20] <xiex> i have feces in my abdomen
[14:20] <xiex> ;o
[14:20] <Jurian> I find it rather hard to imagine how you'd bend a 2d field in a 3d space so all sides are connected, only way I can think of, is by forming a donut
[14:20] <Buente> pffff
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[14:20] <S7L> Jurian: precisely
[14:20] <Jurian> which would require compressing parts of the space, and expanding other parts
[14:21] <Jurian> I suppose that is acceptable tho
[14:21] <Jurian> but
[14:21] <Jurian> a donut has sides
[14:21] <S7L> Jurian: well, creatures in this "space" would expand the same way, mostly, so they wouldn't notice.
[14:22] <Jurian> if you were in a giant donut, you could still get to the sides
[14:22] <S7L> what do you mean by 'sides'?
[14:22] <Torbj> ive noticed...thats why i have a helmet on my head
[14:22] <Jurian> the outside of it
[14:22] <S7L> you mean you would rise off the surface of the donut?
[14:22] <Jurian> the part where the sticky stuff usually is
[14:22] <Jurian> yeah
[14:22] <S7L> Well, we are assuming by analogy that you were a 2d creature bounded, or lacked the technical means to erase yourself from the surface
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[14:23] <Jurian> hrm, you'd live ON the surface, not on the inside of the donut, right?
[14:23] <Jurian> fair enough then
[14:23] <Jurian> no way to get off it then
[14:23] <S7L> I merely offered this as an analogy... of course, trying to imagine just what would a 4d torus look like is somewhat extremely difficult
[14:23] <Jurian> and no way to notice
[14:23] <S7L> Jurian: there are ways to notice.
[14:24] <Jurian> I suppose, logic then dicates it should be somehow true for a 3d object in a 4d space, as well
[14:24] <S7L> You could form loops on the donut by having a very long piece of rope... you tied the other end to some fixed point, and then travelled to some direction, until you returned. Now, you begin pulling this rope tighter
[14:24] <Jurian> nasty
[14:24] * Jurian imagins a 4d donut
[14:24] <S7L> at some point, you find the rope can't be pulled any tighter
[14:24] <xiex> heh imagining a 4d cube is hard enough
[14:25] <S7L> and at this point, you would probably have created a loop in the higher-dimensional space. For you, it's simply a straight line.
[14:25] <S7L> There is a riddle tormenting me
[14:25] <Jurian> mind explaining how a 4d cube would look? :)
[14:25] <S7L> and it is ... why are knots on strings only possible in 3-dimensional space
[14:25] * Jurian is intrigued by the idea
[14:25] <S7L> on 2-dimensional space there is not enough space to form knots, and on 4-dimensional space, all knots will unravel
[14:26] <Jurian> will they?
[14:26] <S7L> Jurian: one can form projections of it.
[14:26] <Jurian> how? :)
[14:26] <S7L> there's even a xscreensaver rendering a 2d projection of 4-dimensional cube.
[14:26] <S7L> Jurian: 2d projection is done by dividing point's x and y coordinates by their z coordinate
[14:26] <S7L> so, by analogy, the 4th coordinate can be handled by dividing x, y and z coordinate by the value
[14:27] <SinthBaron> why cant everything be in 2d dammit?
[14:27] <Jurian> so like.. what's the 4th dimension's name? :)
[14:27] <S7L> so it corresponds, kinda, like scaling operation
[14:27] <Jurian> SinthBaron: no sex in 2d
[14:27] <S7L> but unfortunately it makes no sense for us
[14:27] <Jurian> maybe one day it will :)
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[14:28] <NancyL> Hello all, have a VERY heavy agenda today, so pre-prepared.
[14:28] <grimbot> Welcome and g'day to you Nancy and the Zetas!
[14:28] <jubjub963> 2d video games rocked, mario, donkey,  now we got crappy 3d craporama games
[14:28] * Jurian sets mode: +o NancyL
[14:28] <NancyL> This means I have the initial ZT written, and will just flood it into the channel when the Q is addressed.
[14:28] <SinthBaron> wohoo the lady master of bee ess has arrived!
[14:28] <Jeremy> Hi Nancy
[14:28] <NancyL> This will leave more time for followup, though you must read faster, I suppose.
[14:28] <Torbj> ohhh.....
[14:29] <NancyL> Grimbot!  G'Day to you TOO Grimbot, this can only mean one thing!
[14:29] <NancyL> SirGrim is back?
[14:29] <Jurian> sort of
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[14:29] <Spiff_Rymdis> Spiff the spaceman attend today
[14:29] <Jurian> I'm running the bot for him :p
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[14:29] <Alexey> Hi everybody!
[14:29] <NancyL> Jurian, its good news anyway :-)
[14:29] <Torbj> Hello
[14:29] <Jurian> :)
[14:29] <NancyL> I will post the Agenda early for the early birds ...
[14:30] <SinthBaron> where do i send you money?
[14:30] <NancyL> WELLSTONE
[14:30] <NancyL> 1. Was there more to the plane crash of Senator Paul Wellstone than CNN is reporting?
[14:30] <NancyL> SNIPER
[14:30] <NancyL> 1. Are these things (the anthrax, sniping) showing us they're attempting to make those in the DC area leave or at least becomes more fearful? Clear it out so they have room to rule from? I see images of robot spy planes flying over our cities looking for terrorists.  Will this come to pass as well?
[14:30] <NancyL> BALI BOMBING
[14:30] <NancyL> 1. Was the recent disco-bombing in Bali in fact a US Military/Intelligence
[14:30] <NancyL> Black Opera
[14:30] <NancyL> 1. Was the recent disco-bombing in Bali in fact a US Military/Intelligence
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[14:30] <NancyL> Black Operation, as suggested in the following article:
[14:30] <NancyL> http://www.rense.com/general30/baliasd.htm
[14:30] <NancyL> INTERNET ATTACK
[14:30] <NancyL> 1. Who or what was behind the October 21st "internet attack" reported
[14:30] <NancyL> in the following article:
[14:30] <NancyL> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A828-2002Oct22.html
[14:30] <NancyL> BIG  BIRD
[14:30] <NancyL> 1. What is the huge bird recently sited in Alaska by hundreds of people, and reported on in the following article:
[14:30] <NancyL> http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=420&amp;category=Environment
[14:30] <NancyL> EARTH CHANGES
[14:30] <NancyL> 1. Will you please advise if we can expect to see any really big earth changes coming within the next 3 to 4 months.
[14:31] <NancyL> Sinth, there is no charge for the IRC or the ZT website.  What $$?
[14:31] <NancyL> Lo Brent :-)
[14:31] <obany> Hello NancyL
[14:31] <NancyL> Lo Obany :-)
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[14:32] <Buente> obany again :)
[14:32] <tizza> guday nancy :)
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[14:32] <Brent> Hi Nancy :) Early chat today?
[14:32] <jubjub963> i felt worse yesterday about wellstone than i did 9/11, because i knew 9/11 would turn bush into a pseudo-hero
[14:32] <NancyL> Lo Tizza :-)
[14:32] <Jurian> Hmm, how 'bout that senator dude that died in that plane crash earlier?
[14:32] <Jurian> ah right, I can't read
[14:32] <NancyL> Yes, Wellstone turned Bush into an assassin.
[14:32] <NancyL> Wellstone is top on the agenda today.
[14:32] <Jurian> what a surprise :)
[14:32] <Alexey> Nancy - i'm sorry for intervening, but could you please ask Zetas about recent terrorist act in Moscow. Our souls are touched a lot by it, and it is hard not to ask about it. Did it disbalance the Transformation, or the otherwise?
[14:32] <Jurian> NOT :)
[14:33] <Jurian> heh, yeah, that would also be quite interesting
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[14:33] <Mike-O> Also, is there more to the Moscow hostage story than meets the eye?
[14:33] <tizza> nancy:may i ask r u intending to "zetatalk" right up until total satelite failure at pole shift?
[14:33] <NancyL> Quick ZT to Alexey, as this was SUCH a disaster, 90 of 600 hostages dead!
[14:33] <Alexey> thank you
[14:33] <Jurian> specially on wtf the government did, seeing as most of the people are still in the hospital, afaik :/
[14:34] <NancyL> ZT: The Moscow hostage taking will not be the last, in this troubled world, where desperation will be on the increase.
[14:34] <ZooSpecimen> i think it turned out quite good?! i thought they all were going to die
[14:35] <Torbj> This Moscow theater thing....is this the Russian leaders way of doing a "911" playing together with the "Busches"?
[14:35] <motai> such bloodshed
[14:35] <NancyL> ZT: The elite will increasingly close their hearts and minds to ANY consideration of those they consider their cattle, and the cattle will increasingly react with unfettered rage.
[14:35] <ZooSpecimen> could have turned out much worse
[14:35] <Jurian> heh, I think the russian government used this to test some bio warfare gasious agent.. :p
[14:35] <Jurian> noone knows what kinda gas they used yet
[14:36] <NancyL> ZT: This is a forerunner of post pole shift reactions, where the elite will baricade themselves in their enclaves, and the mob attempt to be heard.
[14:36] <SinthBaron> whos gonna shift my pole?!?!
[14:36] <Jeremy> tizza: Nancy intends to run ZT as long as possible (if that's ok for me to say that Nancy), and live ZetaTalk will likely continue beyond the shift. See http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t115.htm
[14:36] <NancyL> ZT: Hostages, the deaths of innocents, is inevitable. Babies will be held up and shot before the supposed basteons of government, and these government enclaves simply shut the doors.
[14:37] <NancyL> ZT: They care not today about the starving or desperate, or the outcome of those whome they steal land and goods from.
[14:37] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, we would suggest you think LESS that this is unusual, and more brace yourself for this type of atrosity in the future.
[14:38] <NancyL> ZT: The coming times, more than ever, will be opportunities for heroism, self sacrifice, and courage, NOT sitting by and allowing matters to procede uncorrected.
[14:38] <NancyL> ZT: Take a lesson from Wellstone, who died because he was just such a person, without regrets.
[14:38] <NancyL> End ZT to Alexy.
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[14:39] <HighLandrer> Nancy, would you and the Zeta's consider being on the Montel  show if it could be arranged?
[14:39] <Alexey> Thank you Nancy!
[14:39] <Torbj> What is the Wellstone thing?
[14:39] <obany> Higlandr: don't ask stupid questions please
[14:40] <HighLandrer> is that stupid?..or is art Bell stupid also obany??
[14:40] <ZooSpecimen> are all governments sts?
[14:40] <NancyL> It is what is seemed, in Russia, angry Islamic rebels tired of having Christian Russian pushing them around.  Been going on for some time there.
[14:40] <obany> uuuh i thought he eeant something else ... so sorry for that
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[14:40] <Cand> they are not rebels, they are terrorists
[14:40] <tizza> jeremy : thanxs....heard a rumhor a while back...not sure were it came from...wanted a confirmation from nancy :)
[14:41] <NancyL> I recall years ago already, news of Russian generals going on personal vendetas there, NOT their country, NOT their land, but in there asserting their authority, etc.
[14:41] <NancyL> This is what comes of that.
[14:41] <ZooSpecimen> is there an incraese in sto's lately...or no change?
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[14:41] <fetus> hehe
[14:41] <NancyL> Tizza, as long as the Internet is up, IRC up, I'll be here, I presume.  My intentions.
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[14:41] <Michaellss> hi all
[14:41] <obany> ZooSpecimen: of course there is i would say
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[14:41] <Angelic> wg fetus ;)
[14:41] <Angelic> wb
[14:41] <tizza> ah k thanks :)
[14:41] <NancyL> Highlander, who the heck is Montel.
[14:42] <HighLandrer> Nancy, Montell Williams
[14:42] <ZooSpecimen> lol
[14:42] <HighLandrer> TV host Talk shows?
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[14:42] <orion> can the zetas comment on the small humanoid found in chile?
[14:42] <NancyL> Zoo, STS is as STS acts, judge them by their actions.
[14:42] <Alexey> And who is Wellstone, Nancy?
[14:42] <Jurian> Alexey: check cnn or any other propaganda website
[14:43] <Alexey> ok
[14:43] <NancyL> Cand, terrorist is just a name given by those who do NOT want the actions.  Bush is the maxi-terrorist.
[14:43] <Jurian> should be top news on most :)
[14:43] <NancyL> HIghlander, who is Montell Williams?
[14:43] <jubjub963> i just about got sick seeing bush talk about wellstone yesterday
[14:43] <NancyL> What TV show?
[14:43] <Michaellss> talk show host
[14:43] <HighLandrer> perhaps I have his name wrong...
[14:43] <NancyL> Orion, we have a packed agenda, not today, sorry.
[14:44] <HighLandrer> Montel Show..similar to Opra..not uite as well known but watched by many..
[14:44] <orion> cool
[14:44] <Angelic> Bush is a warmonger for oil and an idiot, a puppet
[14:44] <HighLandrer> quite^
[14:44] <NancyL> Alexy, a senator from Minnesota, the ONLY one who voted against Bush war mongering, among those senators and congressmen up for re-election.
[14:44] <Michaellss> doubt keeps gettin in way of prep......always say oh it might not show up so well be ok....;)
[14:44] <NancyL> His small plane, NO problems, NO bad weather, coming in for a landing and reporting all well, suddenly went down in flames.
[14:44] <NancyL> Right.  
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[14:44] <johnmeiii> Nancy L: quote from your site: Last summer I watched a Montel Williams show rerun with a noted California psychic Sylvia Brown as the guest. It was taped last January. In the midst of giving predictions for 1997, she mentioned that 2000 AD actually took place six years ago (1991?). Therefore:
[14:45] <Alexey> ok, thank you Nancy
[14:45] <johnmeiii> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword06w.htm
[14:45] <NancyL> This occurred right after Bush was up trying to shore up his Republican candidate there, who was losing to Wellstone.
[14:45] <Michaellss> oohh
[14:46] <NancyL> So, Bush being the sore looser, had him killed, wife and daughter with him.  My opinion, The Zetas state this, but like JFK, we will never have the truth.
[14:46] <orion> senior bush called wellstone "a chickenshit"
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[14:46] <samsara2003> wow
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[14:46] <inkpen> what a jerk
[14:46] <NancyL> JohnMeiii, this must be a quote from the Prophecy TOPIC or some such.  This person stating this is not me.
[14:47] <NancyL> Orion, Sr. Bush is utterly STS, to the max.  
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[14:47] <NancyL> Wellstone was utterly STO, the very best.
[14:48] <Pegasi71> I wish he had that protection :(
[14:48] <Mike-O> If Wellstone was murdered, it was surely meant to be a message to other members of Congress.
[14:48] <ZooSpecimen> i have a quiketime movie of a ufo that just missed a hellicoppter with WTC's in the background (camera was in hellicoppter). has anybody seen this one? was it real?
[14:48] <HighLandrer> `/me wondered as soon as he heard about welstone..if the plane crash was an 'accident', as the balance of power alters in congressional race...
[14:48] <NancyL> Someone wanted me to add to the Agenda the issue of whether George W would be assassinated, as Sean Morton or somesuch was predicting this.
[14:48] <inkpen> zoo... where can i find the vid?
[14:49] <NancyL> I've often thought that, that he would be the first to go if he got out of hand, as I think him to be a puppet, not a strong person or the hand behind it all.
[14:49] <ZooSpecimen> the site is no longer up..but i got the vid saved on my pc
[14:49] <NancyL> If this were to occur, I suspect it would be the US Military that would do it.  They don't want a war with Iraq, want no war, and none of this war mongering is defense of the home land, etc.
[14:49] <ZooSpecimen> was on scifi to but they no longer have it
[14:49] <HighLandrer> Kennedy was sposed to be on that plane as well?
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[14:50] <[3j]> hi
[14:50] <ZooSpecimen> its a good clip
[14:50] <WS6> ZooSpecimen: yeah, I saw that video couple years ago.  It is very convincing.
[14:50] <NancyL> So, we might have insider battles in DC, that include the dead of George W and Cheney has a bad heart, so who knows.
[14:50] -grimbot- WS6, Nancy is currently in #ZetaTalk, please wait for after the questions during session to
[14:50] -grimbot- WS6, Welcome to #ZetaTalk! Please use http://www.zetatalk.com/index/z01.htm for more information
[14:50] <ZooSpecimen> i wonder if that was a warrning?
[14:50] <NancyL> Mike-O, yes, I've prepareed ZT for this IRC, as there is so much on the Ageanda, full before his death was announced.
[14:51] <NancyL> ZT said the same thing, but it will backfire.  Just waiting another 9 minutes to start ...
[14:51] <[3j]> whats on the agenda? quick overview of the q's?
[14:51] <NancyL> Highlander, and the democrates ahead, all over, I've heard, but this is not much discussed in the news for some reason.
[14:51] <ZooSpecimen> did that
[14:51] <[3j]> can you msg me it then
[14:52] <NancyL> Highlander, or REALLY!  Re Kennedy.  Humm
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[14:52] <agentY2> we know who controls the media.
[14:52] <NancyL> 3J, gave the preview already, 20 minutes ago.
[14:52] <HighLandrer> I believe that I caught that in the broadcast of the plane accident yes..but not 100% sure on that...:o)
[14:53] <NancyL> 3J, no. No private message for me, too busy.
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[14:53] <[3j]> i was asking zoo
[14:53] <ZooSpecimen> can't copy/paste ??!!
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[14:53] <FiveMeODMT> yeah i remember running across that bit on kennedy as well...
[14:53] <[3j]> thanks inkpen did it, but he flooded himself off :P
[14:53] <HighLandrer> ok ..:o)
[14:53] <NancyL> We have a full house tonight, good we have Grimbot back, can always use another cop even if he's a robotcop.
[14:53] <Jurian> hehe, robocop :D
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[14:53] <cybervvizz> msg robocop hello ?
[14:54] <NancyL> Zoo, YOU private message 3J, and don't put it on the log.
[14:54] <cybervvizz> :-)
[14:54] <ZooSpecimen> yes
[14:54] <ZooSpecimen> of curse ;P
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[14:54] <agentY2> nancy  has bush started building that oil pipeline across afghan. already?
[14:55] <Jurian> hehe, most likely :p
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[14:55] <DraganR> Hello to all of the humans and the others.......god bles as all
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[14:55] <FOOLSGOLD> he's digging the footings right now
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[14:55] <jwilliam> greetings
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[14:56] <agentY2> perhaps oil stocks will increase.
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[14:56] <pakkanen> oh... it's none of my problem of course
[14:56] <Jurian> yah, kill some more democratic senators, surely the stock markets will go up even further
[14:56] <pakkanen> but there's a typo in the topic :]
[14:56] <NancyL> Agent Y, I don't know about the pipeline, but I doubt it, not yet, and won't ever get to it either.
[14:56] <SinthBaron> i hope my ky jelly stocks go up
[14:57] <NancyL> FoolsGold, watch him fall down HARD.
[14:57] <Jurian> pakkanen: heh, yeah there is, but who cares really, people don't bother reading it anyway :)
[14:58] <agentY2> nancy do u watch fox news or cnn?
[14:58] <pakkanen> well i just tried joining on #toubled_times, so i care! ;)
[14:58] <agentY2> u think they r both crooked.?
[14:58] <NancyL> SinthBaron, if Sarah is here tonight, introduce yourself. You're of a like mind.  She wears Silk and Velvet and Lace.
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[14:58] <Karen> Nancy are we starting at 5 next week?
[14:58] <agentY2> cnn is horrible but i keep watching it...
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[14:58] <inkpen> lol
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[14:58] <ShadowCow> I would hope that this week, we can again have people treat speakers and listeners with the same respect we would have in our own homes.  Please respect the rights of others.  You eap what you sow.  smib
[14:58] <Jurian> there then :p
[14:58] <NancyL> Agent Y, CNN, as Fox would make me vomit too much I'm afraid.
[14:58] <pakkanen> thank you :]
[14:59] <NancyL> OK, the hour is HERE!!
[14:59] <[3j]> jurian, the bushs has the cia behind them, if they did do something like that it noone would suspect anything. no instead the last incident smells just like incidents occuring during the clinton eras, ie : democrats killing themselves
[14:59] * Jeremy sets mode: +m
[14:59] <Jurian> [3j]: either way, it smells :p
[14:59] <NancyL> For those just ariving, I've pre-written the intial ZT as we have a jammed Agenda.  Will kind of flood in the intial, but then this will give more time for followup.
[14:59] <NancyL> Will start with Q1 ...
[15:00] <NancyL> WELLSTONE
[15:00] <NancyL> 1. Was there more to the plane crash of Senator Paul Wellstone than CNN is reporting?
[15:00] <NancyL> ZT: As suspected by almost everyone who heard the news, the small plane crash that killed Minnesota Senator Wellstone was hardly an accident.  
[15:00] <NancyL> ZT: Bombs set to go off when the landing gear is readied can be counted on to be unavoidable as the plane must surely land SOMEPLACE, being unable to refuel in the air.  
[15:00] <NancyL> ZT: Wellstone was the only Senator up for election who opposed Bush on his war mongering demands.  
[15:00] <NancyL> ZT: His assassination, coming on the heels of a visit to the state by Bush to raise support for his Republican lackey, the hope for recouping Minnesota for the Republicans, which visit failed to muster the needed support, it is no surprise that more drastic measures were taken.  
[15:00] <NancyL> ZT: The year earlier several Democratic senators, including the majority leader Dausche, had the CIA version of Anthrax delivered to their suites.  
[15:00] <NancyL> ZT: Yet in spite of KNOWING which Utah lab produced that strain, the FBI has been directed to harass a Maryland scientist, and no arrests have been made.  
[15:01] <NancyL> ZT: The Bush Administration views the slim Democratic majority in the Senate as the major stumbling block between themselves and total control of the US, and thence, due to military superiority, the world.  
[15:01] <NancyL> ZT: The Supreme Court, as the 2000 Presidential election showed, is clearly already in hand.  
[15:01] <NancyL> ZT: What will come as a surprise to those grieving the beloved Wellstone, a man so strongly STO and courageous  that no one who encountered him in person was left untouched, is that he KNEW this was to occur, as did his wife and all others on the plane, and that they were in agreement with the outcome.  
[15:01] <NancyL> ZT: Some messages, some legacies, are stronger in death than in life.  
[15:01] <NancyL> ZT: Too often, strong individuals are looked to as saviors, as parents, as leaders who should arrange all for those in need, as combatants who should fight the fight and bear the bruises ALONE, protecting the timid and hesitant.  
[15:01] <NancyL> ZT: In his absence, there is a void which shouts from the darkness to be filled.  
[15:01] <NancyL> ZT: Stand UP for what is right, what you want to accomplish, countering oppression and lies.  
[15:01] <NancyL> ZT: Where Wellstone's assassination was to be a warning to any Democrat not falling dutifully in line in the Congress, the opposite will be the result.  
[15:01] <NancyL> ZT: Voters passive about the flow of events and business as usual will suddenly put all aside to go to the polls.  
[15:01] <NancyL> ZT: The elected, many of whom personally knew and were touched by Wellstone, will find their courage in the silent rage that is consuming them.  
[15:01] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, in death, he becomes not the small man in stature he was in life, but the giant he was in his soul.  
[15:02] <NancyL> End Wellinstone ZT, Followup?
[15:02] * Jeremy sets mode: -m
[15:02] <[3j]> so who was responsible?
[15:02] <NancyL> George W et all's handlers.  You ASSUME George W is in charge.  He's just a weak puppet.
[15:03] <[3j]> no i dont assume that
[15:03] <SinthBaron> where's ol dick?
[15:03] <[3j]> thanks for the answer :)
[15:03] <ZooSpecimen> like hitler
[15:03] <Pegasi71> Won't they just 'fix' the elections if it doesent go his way?
[15:03] <agentY2> will the stock market tank further? or increase?
[15:03] <HighLandrer> could the Zeta's not intervene in this one?
[15:03] <NancyL> Look at the family history.  George W a drunk in his youth.  Noel hooked on Cocaine.  George W evades Viet Nam combat by his daddy getting him a desk job.
[15:03] <NancyL> George W is strong?  No way.
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[15:04] <samsara2003> Wellstone volunteered to die?
[15:04] <inkpen> lol
[15:04] <[3j]> hehe gore evaded it too, and clintons got there noses so deep in coke :(
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[15:04] <ArcTicWoLf> hey
[15:04] <NancyL> Zoo, indeed, Hitler was controlled also, a weak person.  
[15:04] <[3j]> silly politics again
[15:04] <agentY2> republicans also never investigate bush.
[15:04] <agentY2> hypocrites
[15:05] <NancyL> Pegas, hard to fix all the states, Florida required the Supremem Court to shout STOP THE COUNTING, and it was Bush controlled state, etc.
[15:05] <inkpen> too much corruption
[15:05] <Pegasi71> whew
[15:05] <NancyL> Samsara, he agreed, during group discussions.  Soul-to-soul at a minimum, knowing what was planned, knowing the outcome of this or that, etc.
[15:05] <NancyL> He will be larger in death and life, just watch.
[15:06] <SinthBaron> am _I_ controlled?
[15:06] <NancyL> Star Wars has that in the death of Obewan (probably not how you spell it)
[15:06] <agentY2> yup.  investigate hell outta clinton.  but don't investigate bush.  cause he is republican. (of course they claim they r unbiased).
[15:06] <jwilliam> ;o)
[15:06] <HighLandrer> will investigation of the plane show bomb residue or will this be squashed as well?
[15:06] <FOOLSGOLD> will the weather excuse stand up. In Minnesota that day the weather wasn't that bad.
[15:06] <NancyL> He says to Darth Vader "if you kill me I will become stronger than you can imagine" or some such.
[15:06] * grimbot sets mode: -b *!*@*.isd-holland.nl
[15:07] <NancyL> Then Luke rose to the challenges, etc. in his absense, with Obewan as spiritual advisor, etc.
[15:07] <FOOLSGOLD> ???
[15:07] <ZooSpecimen> i found 1 person where i work that see's the government the way i do but most people i find just don't care and look the other way :(
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[15:07] <Lebrasse> you know more about star wars than the beatles then Nancy!   ;-)
[15:07] <ZooSpecimen> they are too comfy
[15:07] <NancyL> Highlands, I noted on CNN right off the establishment lacky for the TWA800 crash was objecting to the FBI being so open about "no bad weather, no indication of problems before landing" etc.
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[15:08] <NancyL> He wanted the Minnesota FBI to be mum, so HE could have a say so, but the facts are out now.
[15:08] <agentY2> nancy when what date will usa invadeiraq.
[15:08] <NancyL> TWA800, almost 300 people independently gave FBI their testimony of a missile, NONE had talked to each other at the time of testimmoy.
[15:08] <NancyL> TWA800 official cause, a spark in an oil tank.  Right.  Sure.
[15:09] <NancyL> Going onto Q2 as busy tonight.
[15:09] * Jeremy sets mode: +m
[15:09] <NancyL> SNIPER
[15:09] <NancyL> 1. Are these things (the anthrax, sniping) showing us they're attempting to make those in the DC area leave or at least becomes more fearful? Clear it out so they have room to rule from? I see images of robot spy planes flying over our cities looking for terrorists.  Will this come to pass as well?
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[15:09] <NancyL> ZT: Those conspiratorists will have a field day with the DC sniper having a military background, as McVeigh of the OKC bombing did.
[15:09] <NancyL> ZT: The sniper in fact worked alone as an individual and was on a personal mission.  
[15:09] <NancyL> ZT: His mission, however, will never be explained to the public, who will be told it was for the millions he was demanding.  
[15:09] <NancyL> ZT: The Gulf War left the military stunned.  It was patently clear to the enlisted man that their fellows were poisoned, deliberately, by their superiors.  
[15:09] <NancyL> ZT: The inoculations made them ill, whether they went into combat in the Gulf or not, and the hospitals assigned to help veterans INSTRUCTED to turn a cold shoulder and be brain dead about cause and effect.  
[15:09] <NancyL> ZT: How does a soldier fight such a massive wrong, when those who are to be fought control the courts, the lawmaking, the execution of the laws, their careers, and their assignments?  
[15:09] <NancyL> ZT: Taught that ANY but absolute obedience is treason, they fall still, but the internal rage burns the brighter for this suppression.
[15:09] <NancyL> ZT: What was in the snipers demands, not published, and forever to be withheld from the public?  
[15:10] <NancyL> ZT: The sniper demanded the TRUTH about the Gulf War past, and the TRUTH about the ambitions of the Gulf War in planning.  
[15:10] <NancyL> ZT: Given the mind set of the current administration, however, who care not for the public or about the deaths of innocents, no amount of blood would wash these facts out before public view.  
[15:10] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, he was doomed to failure, his rage causing an increasing number of slips, until caught.
[15:10] <NancyL> End ZT re Sniper, followup?
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[15:10] <ZooSpecimen> sorry
[15:10] <agentY2> y didn't they kill any politicians. or cops.
[15:11] <NancyL> I was saying to my son just the day before this all broke, that I was sure he was ex-mil and angry about the Gulf War.  
[15:11] <Jeremy> Nancy: Will the sniper likely reveal these concerns in his coming trial?
[15:11] <cybervvizz> cowboy joe country
[15:11] <NancyL> Early ZT no doubt, as I chat with them all the time, kind of.
[15:11] <agentY2> u think sniper knew tim mcveigh.
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[15:11] <QueenVee> NancyL: I wonder whether the snipers will be killed before coming to trial.
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[15:11] <HBO> why did bush Sr stop before aquiring Iraq and eliminating Husein in 1990?
[15:12] <NancyL> Jeremy, I doubt this will get out, but if so, the media will be suppressed.  Or he will be smeared in lots of ways as a wife beater or some such, and discounted.
[15:12] <samsara2003> Was the 'I AM GOD' message generated by the media or was this a real message by the sniper?
[15:12] <Pegasi71> The man in charge if the investifation is snooty to the press and endlessly says' I cant talk about that"..
[15:12] <ShadowCow> He's already being smeared as a wifebeater.
[15:12] <agentY2> Pegasi71   the chief moose.
[15:12] <NancyL> Queenvee, good thinking, and likely!  Suicide no doubt.
[15:13] <Pegasi71> Agent: Yeah
[15:13] <Jeremy> Nancy: Ok thanks, but whatever his excuse his, he killed innocent people
[15:13] <agentY2> samsara2003  perhaps he is god.
[15:13] <ZooSpecimen> hi QueenVee
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[15:13] <Linus_bc> But whether they characterize hime has an abuser or not...it's no excuse for what he did
[15:13] <NancyL> Agent Y, no, sniper and OKC not related.  Just conspiracy theory related.
[15:13] <ShadowCow> The sniper didn't know much about tarot, either way
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[15:13] <NightbirdTX> He wasn't much of a fighter in the Gulf War.. ran a water truck
[15:14] <agentY2> night  bush skipped war altogether.
[15:14] <NancyL> HBO, he left Saddam in power because he had CREATED Saddam, gave him $$ and poisons, as Bush Sr. is as STS as they come.
[15:14] <agentY2> hehe
[15:14] <Jurian> there is never a valid excuse for murdering innocents
[15:14] <FOOLSGOLD> the world needs truck drivers too
[15:14] <NancyL> He left him in power to create the scenario of today, or some other badness, you can bet.
[15:14] <NightbirdTX> Thats true, Agent..
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[15:14] <drfist> a truck driver caught the sniper not the cops
[15:14] <QueenVee> Jurian: Nancy has not in any way implied that the sniper was justified or should be excused for what he did
[15:14] <NightbirdTX> Yep, Fool's... I am a truck driver
[15:15] <Jurian> QueenVee: nor did I mean to imply that she did
[15:15] <agentY2> if u knew clinton, at least you'd get some women, instead of being on irc all day like me. hehehe.
[15:15] <cybervvizz> Queenvee, the protector of the mediums
[15:15] <NancyL> Truck drivers are good folk, in the main.  On the road, driving an all-nighter, always park with the big trucks for safety.
[15:15] <NancyL> I did, slept like a baby too.  They protect each other, like circling the wagons.
[15:15] <FOOLSGOLD> wasn't Bush Sr. and Saddam business partners. They extorted billions from other gulf countries
[15:16] <NancyL> I in my little VW however, in their midst.
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[15:16] <Emerald> politics again?
[15:16] <NightbirdTX> Thank you, Nancy.. I don't get to park much.. husband makes us keep going... LOL
[15:16] <agentY2> saw a movie that truckdrives kidnap kill prostitutes quite often.  ..supposedly.
[15:17] <NancyL> FoolsGold, I don't read Bush Watch all the time, but the Bush family doesn't come any dirtier.  S&L crisis, cleaned up, the whole family, BIG time.
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[15:17] <AD9> Some believe that he was an MKUltra hit man, and the hypnotic trigger words to his falling asleep were to be captured were; "The sniper has been caught like a goose in a noose.
[15:17] <NightbirdTX> Agent.. hollywood is full of crap
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[15:17] <walt2525> Nancy, If everyone here collectively asks the Zetas to expose the Bush/Cheney scandals will they do it?
[15:17] <NancyL> Drugs/CIA, look to the hand of Bush Sr, all those issues went right to his door, when he was CIA chief.
[15:17] <NancyL> Onto Q3 now ...
[15:17] * Jeremy sets mode: +m
[15:17] <Jurian> walt2525: heh, just us 120 people?
[15:17] <NancyL> BALI BOMBING
[15:17] <NancyL> 1. Was the recent disco-bombing in Bali in fact a US Military/Intelligence
[15:17] <NancyL> Black Operation, as suggested in the following article:
[15:17] <NancyL> http://www.rense.com/general30/baliasd.htm
[15:18] <NancyL> ZT: Indonesia is a hotbed of Muslim insurection, in that the government is and has been for decades controlled by Catholics.  
[15:18] <NancyL> ZT: Recent years, and especially recent months, have put them in the news when visitors the the island nation are kidnapped and brutally killed if ransom not paid.  
[15:18] <NancyL> ZT: This trend has recently spread into Russia, with the drama of an entire threatre audience held hostage to Muslim protesters.  
[15:18] <NancyL> ZT: NONE of this is done at the hand of the Bush Administration, to support their demands for essential martial law within the US.  
[15:18] <NancyL> ZT: These situations existed prior to 911, and have their own force and fury outside of parochial US interests.
[15:18] <NancyL> End Bali ZT Followup?
[15:18] * Jeremy sets mode: -m
[15:19] <NancyL> Note that Indonesia and Russia problems with Muslins, angry, are NOT 911 related.  Those problem were in place LONG before 911.
[15:19] <QueenVee> NancyL: What about the Yemen blast?
[15:19] <NancyL> Indonesia rebels more angry with Australians than Americans, as Australia is blocking their immigration.
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[15:19] <monoxyde> has the session started yet?
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[15:19] <redeye> howdy all
[15:20] <NancyL> Puts the illegal immigrants into cages, so to speak, until they become desperate and go on hunger strikes.
[15:20] <Emerald> howdy
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[15:20] <Beam> 911 ..is that telephonenumber related ..zetans agree?
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[15:20] <NancyL> I read that these immigrants, caged endlessly, sewed the lips of their children shut so they could not eat, during these strikes.
[15:20] <NancyL> That's anger.
[15:20] <NightbirdTX> wow, I'd say so..
[15:20] <inkpen> harsh
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[15:21] <LadyInRed> thats nutts
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[15:21] <marksmann2> Hello all........Love you Nancy :)
[15:21] <Emerald> anger?
[15:21] <NancyL> QueenVee, did not get up on the Yeman blast, but as Bush wanted Iraq the focus, doubt this was at HIS hand at all.
[15:22] <NancyL> Bin Ladens groups is all over the world, frankly, and many countries have rebels; Spain, China, etc.
[15:22] <NancyL> OK, onto Q4 ...
[15:22] * Jeremy sets mode: +m
[15:22] <NancyL> INTERNET ATTACK
[15:22] <NancyL> 1. Who or what was behind the October 21st "internet attack" reported
[15:22] <NancyL> in the following article:
[15:22] <NancyL> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A828-2002Oct22.html
[15:22] <NancyL> Attack On Internet Called Largest Ever
[15:22] <NancyL> Washington Post, Oct 22, 2002
[15:23] <NancyL> Quote: A distributed denial of service (DDOS) attack struck the 13 root servers that provide the primary roadmap for almost all Internet communications. DDOS attacks overwhelm networks with an  onslaught of data until they cannot be used.
[15:23] <NancyL> Quote: The root servers... serve as a sort of master directory for the Internet ...  Domain Name System ... relies on the servers to tell computers around the world how to reach key Internet domains.
[15:23] <NancyL> ZT: This was caused by adolescents, of any age, who tire of virus propagation and desire a larger bang.
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[15:23] <NancyL> End ZT re Internet, followup?
[15:23] <NancyL> Short Q :-)
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[15:23] <cybervvizz> the dream of a hacker, kick the roots
[15:23] <Jurian> ugh, nothing to do with hackers
[15:24] <ShadowCow> 9 of 13 root servers is an impressive score
[15:24] <cybervvizz> DNS spoofing
[15:24] <monoxyde> whats it have to do with zetas is what i want to know
[15:24] <QueenVee> NancyL: why have we not seen more communication failures, as predicted by ZT?
[15:24] <Jurian> they're just kids who need to get their fingers broken
[15:24] <Linus_bc> Is there any larger scale cyberattack in the works by China against the USA?
[15:24] <NancyL> I guess we can expect more of the same.
[15:24] <Pegasi71> Thank goodness they don't know the location of those certain 'comps' that would bring it all down
[15:24] <Jurian> ddos against the root servers will not work too well
[15:24] <NancyL> On Monday night, I tried to get onto my ISP, busy signal all the time, perhaps they took their phones off to deal with the problem, etc.
[15:24] <FOOLSGOLD> start with fingers
[15:24] <Jurian> Pegasi71: actually, they do
[15:24] <NancyL> I forgive them.
[15:24] <Pegasi71> yikes
[15:24] <monoxyde> HAHAHAHAHA
[15:24] <SinthBaron> didnt affect isp[s nancy
[15:25] <monoxyde> i didn't feel anything
[15:25] <Jurian> 10 in the usa, 1 in sweden, 1 in japan, and 1 in the uk
[15:25] <[3j]> it didnt affect anything
[15:25] <NancyL> OK, onto Q5 ...
[15:25] <Jurian> all in known locations
[15:25] * Jeremy sets mode: +m
[15:25] <NancyL> BIG  BIRD
[15:25] <NancyL> 1. What is the huge bird recently sited in Alaska by hundreds of people, and reported on in the following article:
[15:25] <NancyL> http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=420&amp;category=Environment
[15:25] <NancyL> Quote: Steller's Sea Eagle which can have a wing span of 4 to 6 feet.  Niger sub-species of Steller's Sea Eagle ... Both are native to northern Asia,  the Sea of Okhotsk and Sea of Japan.
[15:25] <NancyL> ZT: In Australia there are reportedly large lizards larger than a man, not including the long tail.  This has been sighted, but not captured, by man.  
[15:25] <NancyL> ZT: Nessie is also not alone in being a remnant to the dinosaur in fresh water lakes and rivers, reported in an Australian rivers as well as other places around the world.  No capture or photo exists.  
[15:26] <NancyL> ZT: On occasion, a previously extinct species is located, still alive and flourishing.  Thus, man is NOT aware of all the animals around him, nor are all well documented and researched.  
[15:26] <NancyL> ZT: The current earth changes bring about seasonal changes that change the food patterns, the hunting grounds, and the availability of food for many species.  
[15:26] <NancyL> ZT: It is NOT true that the size of species is delimited by DNA, as the size of young humans in Japan, compared to their oldsters, demonstrates.  
[15:26] <NancyL> ZT: Nutrition availability is taken advantage of, with a steady increase in size among offspring due to influences that affect what DNA expresses or is repressed.  
[15:26] <NancyL> ZT: Not only will animals, predators and prey alike, be found outside their known habitat, they will be found stunted or LARGER than expected, due to changes in food availability and the seasons where growth is normal in a species.  
[15:26] <NancyL> ZT: Dormancy may not occur, resulting in continuing growth.
[15:26] <NancyL> End ZT on Big BIrd, followup?
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[15:26] <SinthBaron> where's elmo?
[15:26] <monoxyde> hahaha
[15:27] <SinthBaron> and does he vibrate?
[15:27] <QueenVee> NancyL: so which is it, a dinosaur-related species were were not aware of, or a known species that has grown very large?
[15:27] <FOOLSGOLD> Hahahahahahahaha
[15:27] <xiex> shh guy!
[15:27] <xiex> be nice
[15:27] <SinthBaron> she had that one coming
[15:28] <tizza> whots the "big" lizards in aust?
[15:28] <agentY2> what does our 'extra'  dna do??
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[15:28] <NancyL> Queen, I get the impression that this is a Sea Eagle eating out of season, in other words, his dormancy periods did not click in, so big.
[15:28] <inkpen> comodo dragon?
[15:28] <jwilliam> an overfed tweety bird? ;o)
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[15:28] <cybervvizz> it's a joei joei bird, a bird with little feets and a big male sXX and it's says joei joei when it needs to land
[15:28] <inkpen> lol
[15:29] <Torbj> We have one in Sweden..a big "thing" in Storsjön (the biglake in Östersund)
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[15:29] <Orfner> that is the ohno bird
[15:29] <agentY2> nancy   anyone else who has zetan dna in their brain??
[15:29] <NancyL> Queen, there are LARGE lizards in AU that many reliable witnesses have seen and drawn, big as a small truck, run on hind legs, etc. and none captured so OFFICIALLY then don't exist.
[15:29] <tizza> seens lots of 6ft goannas.....that it?
[15:29] <NightbirdTX> Nancy, then would the zeta's say this big bird was caused by earth changes due to PX or just a natural occurance?
[15:29] <NancyL> So, man does not know all, every once in awhile dredges up something from the deep that is a surprise also.
[15:29] <QueenVee> NancyL: no doubt we will be seeing more such anomalies...
[15:29] <Pegasi71> I belive the Tasmanian tiger is still around too
[15:30] <NancyL> JWilliam, an overfed Sea Eagle, which has s 6 foot wing span anyway.
[15:30] <inkpen> big lizzard
[15:30] <NancyL> Good eating on the warmer oceans, etc.
[15:30] <jwilliam> ;o)
[15:30] <redeye> are the lack of real evidence of creatures such as nessie by design ?
[15:30] <NancyL> Ageny Y, yes, but I'm not telling WHO.
[15:30] <Orfner> I just want to know the mag. of PX and what wavelength of red to filter for?/
[15:30] <redeye> r they quarantined like bigfoot ?
[15:31] <agentY2> oh
[15:31] <ZooSpecimen> this will help spread disease?
[15:31] <Mike-O> Good question, Redeye, and this is addressed on ZetaTalk.
[15:31] <NancyL> NightBird, Big Bird caused because feeding season was extended, no dormancy, due to warmer seas, longer summer, etc. so GREW.
[15:31] <redeye> mike : yeah , have read that
[15:31] <NightbirdTX> Ok, Thank you.. Nancy..
[15:31] <NancyL> RedEye, no design re Nessie, quick answer from the Z's.
[15:32] <Torbj> ?..if i eat...my belly grows...not my arms....
[15:32] <NancyL> Not like Big Foot, who is quarantined.
[15:32] <Linus_bc> giant mutatated hummingbirds : )  kidding
[15:32] <Beam> Can the body devellop without an soul in it?
[15:32] <NancyL> Orfner, you can gauge for yourself in the TEAM section http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[15:32] <Orfner> you can't tell me
[15:32] <NancyL> Look at all the images, early 2002 and Fall 2002, and decide for YOURself.
[15:33] <NancyL> You're empowered with the info, YOU decide.
[15:33] <obany> Beam: search in zetatalk it's there
[15:33] <NancyL> OK, onto Q5 ...
[15:33] <QueenVee> NancyL: when will there be new coordinates for PX?
[15:33] * Jeremy sets mode: +m
[15:33] <NancyL> Umm, Q6 ...
[15:33] <NancyL> EARTH CHANGES
[15:33] <NancyL> 1. Will you please advise if we can expect to see any really big earth changes coming within the next 3 to 4 months.
[15:34] <NancyL> I'll post these new predictions by category, and to aid orientation to what has been said BEFORE, I've prepared links with previous predictions, by category.  
[15:34] <NancyL> The quoted ZetaTalk prediction sources are by the following code:
[15:34] <NancyL> E1999: 1999 Predictions: 4 years to go (A97)
[15:34] <NancyL> L1999: Next 3.5 Years: 3.5 years to go (T80)
[15:34] <NancyL> E2000: During 2000: 3 years to go (T88)
[15:34] <NancyL> E2001: During 2001: 2 years to go (T100)
[15:34] <NancyL> E2002: During 2002: 1 year to go (T106)
[15:34] <NancyL> The web pages I'm referencing are already on the web, just ahead of the chat, for those with more than one line who are curious.
[15:34] <NancyL> Category [1] Earth Changes: stated was an increase in frequency and strength, but underreported and less than lineal increase due to heating/swelling of Earth such that plates separate at edges.  
[15:34] <NancyL> Link: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/coct26-1.htm
[15:35] <NancyL> ZT: Where those braced for the possibility of a pole shift are expecting massive earthquakes in the months leading up to the shift, the actual Earth changes will be a MOVEMENT of the ground, in place, rather than the jolting of plate movement that causes earthquakes.  
[15:35] <NancyL> ZT: Quakes will continue to increase, both in frequency and strength, of course, but this will not be the primary source of devastation. We have predicted imploding cities, where the infrastructure drops or buckles such that buildings collapse in place, suddenly.  
[15:35] <NancyL> ZT: Rail line disasters have occurred where the tracks are suddenly found to have buckled or zagged in place, without explanation.  This is a forerunner of more such episodes, affecting bridges, roadways, the infrastructure of cities and large buildings, enclosed underground structures, and dams.  
[15:35] <NancyL> Category [2] Oceans: stated was that tides will increase, whirlpools, and continued polar melt due to core warming.
[15:35] <NancyL> Link: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/coct26-2.htm
[15:35] <NancyL> ZT: Where ignored lately in the press, the swelling oceans will begin to devastate coastlines and islands such that they demand attention in the press.  
[15:35] <NancyL> ZT: This is not entirely due to polar melt, but also to heating of the oceans and heaving crustal plates that move UPWARD to relieve the press of swirling magma, giving the oceans less of a bowl to rest in.  
[15:36] <NancyL> ZT: Coastal cities will find themselves steadily inundated, water in the streets and sewage lines backed up.  Insurance companies will turn their backs on these incidences, created demands on government to step into the void and provide housing and compensation for private and corporate victims alike.  
[15:36] <NancyL> ZT: Refugee camps will be started, and become the intractable norm while the governments and media downplay the extent of the problem.  
[15:36] <NancyL> Category [3] Weather/Crop Failure: stated was the erratic weather predicted in 1995, effect on commercial crops, and underreporting in the media.  Depleated stores will result in starving countries being ignored.  
[15:36] <NancyL> Link: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/coct26-3.htm
[15:36] <NancyL> ZT: As the starving are more easily controlled by oppressors, the increasing starvation around the world will be less of a factor in riots and turmoil than would be expected.  
[15:36] <NancyL> ZT: Befuddled thinking, exhaustion that makes even assuming a standing position difficult, and the inability to muster an assault prevent the starving from becoming a nuisance to their governments or oppressors, so they are simply ignored.
[15:36] <NancyL> ZT: As the wealthy and elite stock their enclaves, food stuffs will increasingly become scarce, with a lack of options during shopping the most noticeable result.  
[15:36] <NancyL> ZT: Until a populace used to thinking that their government has put aside stores for emergencies find that the stores have long been emptied, there will not be rage, as any hint that the truth is about to emerge is likely to result in a government sponsored party, as a distraction.
[15:36] <NancyL> ZT: Those countries where the populace is aware that they must depend upon themselves will find more squirreling away of food stuffs, with soldiers sent into the field to locate and raid these stores.  
[15:37] <NancyL> I will break here for followup, as the next two sections are human response, not earth changes.  Followup?
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[15:37] <agentY2> if we activate our extra dna, to we become like an alien creature....etc...??m
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[15:37] <longint> what about satellites?
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[15:37] <Orfner> NancyL you are impowered with the zeta's have them tell me. They are so smart and don't use zero in their math and are all knowing. Or better yet have one of the little grey guys, who we see as grey because we can't see their color, come tell me. If we can't see their color wouldn't they be invisible?
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[15:37] <Salvador> In México, we had two hurricanes heating as never before just weeks ago (Isidore and Kenna)
[15:38] <Jeremy> Nancy: ZT has said that storms and quakes will take out cities before the pole shift. Can we expect such an occurrence to happen anytime from NOW?
[15:38] <agentY2> y don't zetas simply stop that px from messing us up.
[15:38] <obany> orfer: Not related that question you asked
[15:38] <obany> agentY2: NO
[15:38] <Orfner> yes it was
[15:38] <QueenVee> NancyL: Re imploding cities: any in particular that will be susceptible to that kind of activity?
[15:38] <agentY2> no what?
[15:38] <NancyL> Agent Y, the results of overeating in humans is well documented (burp) and does NOT result in larger humans that are desireable.
[15:39] <NancyL> Long, this is coming next section.
[15:39] <longint> ok
[15:39] <agentY2> eh???
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[15:39] <NancyL> Orfer, color blind people DO see, just not the right colors, so no.
[15:39] <Karen> Nancy, due to time changes are we to start next week at 5?
[15:39] <agentY2> u musta meant to direct that to someone else?
[15:39] <Orfner> i want to know the mag. and the zeta's are all knowing. Let them tell us and not have the NanZeta give us a song and dance about us looking for ourselves.
[15:39] <cybervvizz> i am sure if You should see a visible zeta before your eyes, you pXX into your pens
[15:40] <jwilliam> nancyL: could you expand on line Until a populace used to thinking........  what mean distraction??
[15:40] <Orfner> nope
[15:40] <NancyL> Jeremy, they didn't say storms and quakes, they said imploding cities, storms NO worse than today, and some quake damage yes.
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[15:40] <RayC> NancyL: the zetas are saying that there will not be the unheard of earthquakes away from quakes zones? just a horizontal displacement due to the shift?
[15:40] <QueenVee> NancyL: yes, i didn't understand the reference to distraction either
[15:40] <cybervvizz> the weakest are those who don't recognize their fear
[15:40] <Orfner> And that is this bunch
[15:41] <agentY2> i think if we activate our dna, we will become vastly smarter.
[15:41] <NancyL> Queen, who would have guessed that FL, MD, WI and UK would have rail line disasters?  Now TX too.  So, it is in the STRETCH of land, and this is not what man thinks about, charts, so will be erratic to man, the cities affected, I think.
[15:41] <NancyL> Zetas cannot give predictions like that, interferring, as they have stated before.
[15:41] <NancyL> Ask Scallion, he seems to be free of this, being a human.
[15:42] <NightbirdTX> Nancy, Gordon-Micheal Scallion has predicted a large earthquake in the New Madrid area this fall.. he says Ricter 11 or so.. would the zeta's care to comment?
[15:42] <Orfner> It's Amtrack.... most of the time. They can't pull out of the station without falling off the tracks
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[15:42] <SinthBaron> i have some unused grey matter in my pud, will dna activate this?
[15:42] <Pegasi71> Look at the sink holes appearing in the Carolinas...weird
[15:42] <NancyL> Orfer, sorry, I'm the telepath here, and they CANNOT directly type into IRC, etc.  
[15:42] <Jeremy> Nancy: From http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t59.htm ... 'We anticipate a real impact where storms and quakes take out cities'
[15:42] <agentY2> i mean we activate dna, we will understand physics / universe much better. photomemory etc
[15:43] <Orfner> So ask... oh but you have been asked to do that before and won't answer
[15:43] <NancyL> JWilliam, distraction?  What is this in ref to?  I'm lost
[15:43] <cybervvizz> very often the tongue is more powerfull in contrast with the mussle or inner strenght
[15:43] <jwilliam> ZT line Until a populace used to thinking their government ..... this Q
[15:44] <NancyL> RayC, they are saying that we will have earth MOVEMENT, like the rail lines that moved, outside of quake zones and fault lines.  A surprise, affecting cities and rails and bridges, etc.
[15:44] <QueenVee> NancyL:  JWilliam was referring to: ZT: Until a populace used to thinking that their government has put aside stores for emergencies find that the stores have long been emptied, there will not be rage, as any hint that the truth is about to emerge is likely to result in a government sponsored party, as a distraction.
[15:44] <agentY2> understand how brain works, then alter its functioning.
[15:44] <jwilliam> ;o)
[15:44] <NancyL> NightBird, the Zetas cannot comment on specific quake predictions like that, no.
[15:44] <NightbirdTX> OK, Thank you anyway, Nancy
[15:45] <NancyL> Jeremey, I will look at that, be right back.
[15:45] <agentY2> nancy:  i think he's saying he wants some independant confirmation of your claims.
[15:45] <Jeremy> Nancy: Ok, thanks
[15:45] <ZooSpecimen> government party?
[15:45] <Beam> When are the hybrids here?
[15:45] <agentY2> nancy  how do WE communicate with zetas directly???
[15:45] <redeye> zoo : distrction for their being no food in stores
[15:45] <ZooSpecimen> give the call
[15:45] <Jurian> agentY2: read zt site
[15:46] <Jurian> and exactly, give the call
[15:46] <Jeremy> agentY: You can give what is known as 'The Call'
[15:46] <cybervvizz> learn to talk with your mind and not with your ...
[15:46] <NancyL> Jeremy, this was in the context of economic collapse, and stating that WHEN storms and quakes take out cities, the economy will take a hit, an impact.
[15:46] <obany> agentY2: no DIRECt contact yet, and as ZooSpecimen is saying give the call
[15:46] <NancyL> Didn't way that ALL cities will be taken out etc.
[15:46] <agentY2> we could clone some of nancies zeta dna, and inject it inourselves.
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[15:46] <Orfner> If this is real... Why aren't you out there spreading the work.. Not just here but every where?? You say there is a government coverup. Why is ZT still around? Why are you still around?  And again why are you not on every TV station spreading the word?
[15:46] <Beam> I am waiting for some spectaculair..sighting..can't their be a second Rosswell crash?
[15:47] <NancyL> Jeremy, go to the country early, and be worry free!
[15:47] <Jeremy> I never said all cities would Nancy, I just asked if we can expect storms or quakes to take out citites BEFORE the pole shift
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[15:47] <willshell> Orfner this is answered in zetatalk
[15:47] <Orfner> right
[15:47] <jwilliam> read www.zetatalk.con ;o)
[15:47] <Torbj> Orf...week after week shes here on the net.....
[15:47] <agentY2> ::  clone enough of nancy's brain zetan dna, inject in 6 billion humans, we that amount of mental power we might overwhelm the zetans.....possible?
[15:47] <[3j]> use the search engine
[15:47] <jwilliam> oops .com
[15:47] <agentY2> jwilliam   .con ? hehehe
[15:48] <cybervvizz> NancyL, a spacecraft with a black surface, no lights, reverse plate (not so high), do You recognize such ? Race ?
[15:48] <Pegasi71> Is the new MJ-12 still around? What's new with them?
[15:48] <ZooSpecimen> i would like to know more about teaming up w/ the zeta's/hybrids to help after PS
[15:48] <Torbj> isnt that trying to sread the word?
[15:48] <NancyL> Orfner, I have been killed a few thousand times, but NOT because of ZT protection.  If someone THINKS it, they know, and perfect karma do the THINKER in, so to speak.
[15:48] <Orfner> jwilliam been there it is just as dumb as the crap you post on sci.astro
[15:48] <NancyL> Thus, it stops these games pretty sharply.
[15:48] <NancyL> Normally, I'd have been dead in 1995, otherwise.
[15:48] <jwilliam> orfner only 7 months to go
[15:48] <NightbirdTX> I know that some Insurance Companies have been cancelling policies in Florida.. right now, not waiting
[15:48] <Lebrasse> So where is the BUSH Karma Nancy, how come they get away with everything ??
[15:49] <NancyL> Cyber, who says this about a ship, declined, out of line with the going Q, etc.
[15:49] <NancyL> Onto last part of Q6 now ...
[15:49] <Jurian> Lebrasse: who says they do? :)
[15:49] <Orfner> Right and if it shows up I'll kiss your ass on main street and give you a week to draw a crowd
[15:49] <cybervvizz> i known,
[15:49] <jwilliam> no thanks
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[15:49] <NancyL> Category [4] Populace Reactions: stated was migration increase, seeking better places, increasing illness among humans and animals alike, riots suppressed with brutality, and people seeking solutions in cults, survival groups, or by becoming virtual slaves of the rich in work camps.  Polarization will occur.  
[15:49] <NancyL> Link: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/coct26-4.htm
[15:49] <NancyL> ZT: With a frantic sense that something is upon them, the human populations of the world, where they have the means for mobility and energy to spare, will seek solutions with others.  
[15:49] <NancyL> ZT: This will not so much be a reaching out to the governments which are clearly incompetent to address the changes, but in discussions initiated by individuals, each to the other.  
[15:49] <NancyL> ZT: Governments will be heard from after tragedies, disasters, and when bad news must be announced and can no longer be denied or suppressed.  They will announce solutions, work camps or refugee camps, but the takers will only be those hapless souls unable to do otherwise.  
[15:49] <NancyL> ZT: Forming groups will in the main squabble, expectations that prior life styles should be continued slow to change, and will seldom succeed until after the shift, when it is CLEAR what changes are needed, no argument.
[15:49] <NancyL> Category [5] Establishment Reaction: stated was Global Warming used as an excuse until obviously inadequate; media suppression of news about quakes, crop failures, and rising sea levels; worldwide depression with banks and stock markets shored up by the establishment to appear otherwise; barter system increasing among the populace, whitle war mongering among the elite to distract the populace.
[15:49] <NancyL> Link: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/coct26-5.htm
[15:49] <NancyL> ZT: When the stock markets crash, the brakes no longer able to be applied and all investors desperately going for themselves despite instructions from their masters, price controls will be instituted.  
[15:49] <NancyL> ZT: Somber faced officials will parade about, imitating the days of the Great Depression, all blaming a source other than themselves for the disaster.  
[15:50] <NancyL> ZT: Talk will be the order of the day, with little action.  In that the economic disasters can take the media stage, increasing Earth changes can get pushed aside.
[15:50] <NancyL> ZT: This will allow governments to huddle while they plot to save themselves, the doors closed to their desperate citizenry who will be told they must allow their governments to cook up solutions, in peace.  
[15:50] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, when the shift occurs, the citizenry will find NO governments behind closed doors, but absent, long moved to safe locations, without a word to those they are leaving behind in ignorance.
[15:50] <NancyL> End ZT on Earth Changes Q, followup?
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[15:51] * Looking up redeye user info...
[15:51] <agentY2> Pegasis is a sweet name for a car.  
[15:51] <agentY2> oops.
[15:51] <ZooSpecimen> lol
[15:51] <Pegasi71> Like in the past, what is to keep the Elites from regaining control? Polarization?
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[15:51] <onle> nancy aren't u getting bored to tell all these things all the time here to the same crowd
[15:51] <samsara2003> What will be the expected media reaction to Nibiru when it becomes visible in April?
[15:51] <agentY2> nancy  r u gonna watch the next startrek movie??
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[15:51] <NeilAway> jeremey? is Nansy answer your Q about REAL impact of storms  and quakes BEFORE shift?
[15:52] <NancyL> Pegasi, the Transformation, in that incarnating spirits are STO, not undecided or STS or babies.
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[15:52] <Mb_> who #
[15:52] <Pegasi71> :)
[15:52] <SinthBaron> wheres the buffet?
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[15:52] <agentY2> wtf?
[15:52] <agentY2> n.m.
[15:52] <NancyL> Thus, STO take the majority, influence, rule, are older, in charge, AND, aliens will join us here, on Earth, STO aliens.
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[15:53] <NancyL> Onle, I'm very patient, by nature.  Blunt, suffer fools poorly, but patient when the Q is genuine, as most are.
[15:53] <NeilAway> jeremey? is Nansy answer your Q about REAL impact of storms  and quakes BEFORE shift?
[15:53] <NancyL> Samsara, this will be a very interesting IRC Q come March/April, but too soon to tell.
[15:53] <Jeremy> NeilAway: My question was not about impact of storms or quakes before the shift, but WHEN we can expect them to take out cities before the shift, as I read from ZetaTalk on the economic collapse link
[15:53] <onle> it's the right attitude
[15:54] <NancyL> If there is martial law everywhere, NO media, then a moot Q.
[15:54] <NancyL> If the media rebels and has told the truth long before, then very interesting in April, no doubt.
[15:54] <NancyL> Ageny Y, I never could stomach Star Trek, all those hominoid, not real, as most are NOT hominoid, as I well know.l
[15:54] <NeilAway> jeremey, and? is nancy answer or simply ignore?
[15:55] <agentY2> oh.   well i wan'ted to know when we will achieve that level of technology.
[15:55] <agentY2> warp drive etc.
[15:55] <cybervvizz> and for those not humanoid, it's dumb to forget to trigger Your invisibility button on your ufo, violation of interaction rule registered.
[15:55] <NightbirdTX> Neil, Nancy did answer
[15:55] <ZooSpecimen> will zetatalk be running durring martial law?
[15:55] <Jurian> heh, nancy, there's a good reason for most beings in star trek being hominoid :p
[15:55] <NightbirdTX> Nancy said that was economic collaspe, not physical collaspe
[15:55] <SinthBaron> my refrigerator is running
[15:55] <Jurian> multiple, actually :)
[15:55] <NancyL> NeilAway, yes, MOST cities will not be taken out by storms or quakes before the shift, this was taken out of context read T59 (I'll quote)
[15:55] <NancyL> "The barter system emerges, people working for each other on a day by day basis, for food or an exchange of goods. We anticipate a real impact where storms and
[15:55] <NancyL> quakes take out cities, insurance companies fail, and the government must step in or the homeless population increase. Those countries where the population is
[15:55] <NancyL> allowed to die, starve, get diseased and lay by the roadside in this state, will simply continue this practice.
[15:56] <NancyL> "
[15:56] <agentY2> i think bob lazar type ufo's, must be beyond startrek technology.   closer to stargate...maybe.
[15:56] <longint> Nancy, I found nothing about the satellite failure in the second part.
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[15:56] <NancyL> In other words, a real impact on the BARTER system when cities get impacted by storms and quakes.
[15:56] <inkpen> up there that away
[15:56] <AD9> Nancy the Zetas say they met with Jesus-why haven't they mentioned his "Course In Miracles", and which millions are studying? Jesus, also mentions a Celestial Speedup. The Zetas mentioned several books  which few have read.
[15:56] <NancyL> Jeremey just read this with his worries, as he is a city dweller, easy to do.
[15:56] <ZooSpecimen> will martial law control the internet
[15:56] <NeilAway> where predicted satellite failures? no. (insuranse increase report have a clear explanations, which nancy is simple ignored too
[15:56] <Jurian> stargate isn't very advanced mostly, other than the actual stargate itself, afaik :)
[15:57] <agentY2> afaik?
[15:57] <NancyL> ALL YOU CITY FOLK, GET OUT INTO THE COUNTRY NOW, AND PLANT THINGS AND LEARN ABOUT FARMING!
[15:57] <NancyL> Best advice.
[15:57] <SinthBaron> i do
[15:57] <agentY2> yeah i meant just the gate, wormhole technology.
[15:57] * xiex doing that
[15:57] <ZooSpecimen> no money :(
[15:57] <NancyL> Long, you are right, this is in the web pages, but no new ZT on this, so here it is ...
[15:57] <SinthBaron> i raise goats for arabs to marry
[15:57] <cybervvizz> buy a gummy boat
[15:57] <[3j]> you dont need money to live with nature
[15:57] <Orfner> and eat worms
[15:57] <Jeremy> Nancy: I interpreted 'take out' cities to mean major devastation, almost as if they will be totally destroyed
[15:57] <agentY2> zetans must have such technology.
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[15:57] <ekim> but won't farming be impossible with the lack of sun?
[15:57] <inkpen> i have to get away from here
[15:57] <SinthBaron> for they are far more pretty than those horrrrrrible women
[15:58] <Lebrasse> Zetas talked about the Barter system back in July, but now in November stock markets are still healthy, will there really be a crash ahead of the shift ??
[15:58] <NightbirdTX> Nancy, how soon do the Zeta's see the military robbing people's stored food?
[15:58] <[3j]> ekim: solution is mushrooms
[15:58] <SinthBaron> you can come and live on my farm
[15:58] <NancyL> ZT to Long: No change in the prediction.  Satellites are already faltering, with news casters having problems with their transmissions even on live TV.
[15:58] <SinthBaron> no funny business with the goats tho
[15:58] <NancyL> ZT: And cell phones increasingly malfunctioning, but outages are not yet extreme.
[15:58] <Jurian> Lebrasse: stock markets healthy ???
[15:58] <inkpen> lol
[15:58] <NancyL> ZT: When the shift occurs, the tail lashing, etc, there will be NO more satellites to worry about.
[15:58] <Orfner> cell phones don't use sats.
[15:59] <[3j]> NancyL: how much longer until these things happen in the sense that the impact will be impossible to ignore
[15:59] <Lebrasse> Dow went down to 7200 but now back up to 8400
[15:59] <Beam> Can you make a graphic of a Hybrid?
[15:59] <agentY2> nancy   r there currently  ANY alien ufos  at area51 ??
[15:59] <NancyL> ZT: Long before this point, however, they will have malfunctions into uselessness.
[15:59] <NancyL> End ZT to Long.
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[15:59] <splat> Orfner: Voicestream cellphones do
[15:59] <Mb_> Nancy: Are you saying that we are already feeling effects of PX?
[15:59] <Orfner> nope
[16:00] <Orfner> work with voicestream... don't use sats...  land based
[16:00] <NancyL> Jeremy, don't worry, it says WHERE, not WHEN, as quote is "We anticipate a real impact where storms and
[16:00] <NancyL> quakes take out cities, insurance companies fail, a
[16:00] <SinthBaron> oh gooddie, can i pickup sputnik at the fire sale?
[16:00] <splat> Orfner: I have one, and it does..
[16:00] <longint> ok, but they said 'the year prior the shift" and that is now.
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[16:00] <Mansur> Nancy, what do you havr to say to those who leave their families and homes if it does not show up? Have you pondered on that
[16:00] <Orfner> whatever you want to think
[16:00] <Jurian> Orfner: uh, actually, a lot of live coverage from around the world, is sent over sat links
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[16:00] <pauli259> your right Orfner cell phones don't use satellites
[16:00] <NancyL> Jeremy, you need to leave the city, this is a SIGN.  
[16:00] <Orfner> that is true but not cell phones
[16:00] <cybervvizz> IP slices
[16:00] <Lebrasse> Here in the UK, shops are FULL of food and house prices still crazy, no money problems here yet
[16:00] <Jurian> and some phones do use satellites, alltho the iridium network has been shut down
[16:00] <NancyL> Jewremy, make the move!!!
[16:00] <ZooSpecimen> is the alien sketch on the zetalk web site 'about' what a zeta looks like?
[16:01] <marksmann2> Orfner is a ass!
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[16:01] <Clipper> Yes
[16:01] <SinthBaron> can I use my CB as a cellphone?
[16:01] <Orfner> thanks
[16:01] <Jurian> as for satellite connections, they're going fine, me being here proving that :p
[16:01] <NancyL> Mb, for some decades, yes, the effects of Px, especially since about 1995/96, the 7 years period before a shift that Mosees talked about.
[16:01] <NeilAway> http://www.spacedaily.com/news/futron-insure-2002.pdf
[16:01] <Mb_> Nancy:  Can we come and live on your farm?
[16:01] <ZooSpecimen> hehe
[16:01] <Lebrasse> Where can jeremy move TO nancy, UK is due to flood mainly
[16:01] <Orfner> just telling the truth .... unlike some folks here
[16:01] <NightbirdTX> My satellites have been acting up
[16:01] <Jeremy> Nancy: I better sell up I guess, though I was leaving that until early next year
[16:01] <cybervvizz> Jurian, don't be to close to the disc it's bad for your ...children
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[16:01] <Albatross> Did moses suffer from cell phone outages?
[16:02] <Jurian> cybervvizz: uh, the dish is 5 meters above ground, so, no problem :p
[16:02] <obany> !kick albatros
[16:02] <agentY2> i think PYRAMIDS of egypt  will activate and divert px away from us.
[16:02] <obany> !kick Albatros
[16:02] <LadyInRed> yes please do!
[16:02] <Jurian> but yes, if anyone needs to be sure they wont ever have children, they can drop by and stand in front of the dish for a while
[16:02] <NancyL> Long, they said it will START to be noticed the year before, and I've noticed this past summer that CNN has LOTS of phone problems, etc.  on live TV, and cell phone users incresingly have horrendous problems.
[16:02] <obany> !kick Albatross behave
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[16:03] <agentY2> i think PYRAMIDS of egypt  will activate and divert px away from us.      another even more advanced race built them...perhaps our genetic ancestors.
[16:03] <cybervvizz> btw, i remember the orion sat network ;),
[16:03] <NancyL> Mb, I have no farm, and you'd not be welcome anyway.  I don't entertain those who invite themselves. My dog would eat you, with my permission.
[16:03] <marksmann2> Orfner, you talk about things that you no nothing about.
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[16:03] <willshell> lol
[16:03] <LadyInRed> lol@Nancy
[16:03] * Jurian hands NancyL's dog some pepper and salt
[16:03] <SinthBaron> who faaarted?
[16:03] <xiex> heh they were built by humans, i think something like 11-12,000 years ago, took 100 years ;O
[16:03] <inkpen> lol
[16:03] <NancyL> JWilliam, did I answer your followup?  Missed it.
[16:03] <NancyL> Distraction?
[16:03] <jwilliam> no
[16:04] <Orfner> marksmann2 you know nothing at all
[16:04] <NancyL> Albatros, Moses suffered without cell phones.
[16:04] <QueenVee> NancyL: ZT: Until a populace used to thinking that their government has put aside stores for emergencies find that the stores have long been emptied, there will not be rage, as any hint that the truth is about to emerge is likely to result in a government sponsored party, as a distraction.
[16:04] <obany> !kick SinthBaron please behave
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[16:04] <Mb_> Nancy:  What kind of dog do you have?
[16:04] <QueenVee> NancyL: "government sponsored party"??
[16:04] <LadyInRed> a hungry one
[16:04] <NancyL> Agenty Y is having delusions, "we will be saved!"
[16:04] <Pegasi71> hehe
[16:04] <Jurian> Mb_: a 4 meter high one
[16:05] <jwilliam> thats the line
[16:05] <marksmann2> Orfner, its your way or the highway, right?
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[16:05] <NightbirdTX> Nancy, when do the Zeta's see the "powers that be" stealing our stored food?
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[16:05] <HenryK> What is this strange creature: http://www.rense.com/general31/tinyt.htm
[16:05] <NancyL> JWilliam, what was the Q, of yours?
[16:05] <xiex> ;)
[16:05] <jwilliam> see quennvee
[16:05] <jwilliam> queenvee is posting line above
[16:05] <NancyL> Mb, a 120 lb male German Shepard who does not allow even my family to visit.
[16:05] <agentY2> i won't go out w/o a fight.
[16:05] <ZooSpecimen> will this party be before or after PS
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[16:05] <Mr_Zeta> nancy: can i be with you when the pole shift occurs?  i am very insecure about it :(
[16:06] <agentY2> i'll kill zetans by teh dozen if need be.   if possible.
[16:06] <Orfner> marksmann2 nope... but open your eyes
[16:06] <QueenVee> NancyL: JWilliam was asking about this line, what was meant be "distraction", "govt party": NancyL: ZT: Until a populace used to thinking that their government has put aside stores for emergencies find that the stores have long been emptied, there will not be rage, as any hint that the truth is about to emerge is likely to result in a government sponsored party, as a distraction.
[16:06] <NancyL> We have to muzzle him for the vet, who quakes at the thought of a visit.
[16:06] <cybervvizz> release the cats as distraction
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[16:06] <SinthBaron> nancy, a 120lb anything is no match for my 12 gauge ;-)
[16:06] <NancyL> The Zetas guided me to chose him at the kennel.  LORD he
[16:06] <NancyL> s protective.
[16:06] <agentY2> NANCY   after ps, is cannabalism justified to prevent starvation??????
[16:06] <Jurian> heh
[16:06] <Torbj> Chivauha?
[16:06] <cybervvizz> mmm
[16:07] <longint> One last Q: will it affect newer satellites also, or just the older ones?
[16:07] <Jeremy> Nancy: Just as well the Zetas have methods of calming down pets when they visit :)
[16:07] <NancyL> Mr Zeta, grow up, I'm not your mama.
[16:07] <willshell> agentY2 who will mind being eaten if they are dead/
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[16:07] <L421> will it affect radio transmissions?
[16:07] <xiex> haha ;)
[16:07] <Jurian> astra and eutelsat have been doing just fine :p
[16:07] <NeilAway> __int64 :)
[16:07] <agentY2> ppl lost at sea, have resorted to cannabalism.
[16:07] <marksmann2> Orfner,thats why i am here....
[16:07] <Beam> Refer the zetans to the england olate?
[16:07] <cybervvizz> the moon is our mamaa
[16:08] <SinthBaron> who wants to come to MY farm?
[16:08] <jwilliam> What phones are we using up here with satellite connection? Got a name for it?
[16:08] <NancyL> OK, JWilliam, this means that IF the populace is about to get wind that the food stores they claim they have, for emergencies, is NOT there, has been emptied, they will throw a party.
[16:08] <Jurian> heh, if you're dead, wtf does it matter if other people eat you? if they survive by eating you, yay :)
[16:08] <jwilliam> cause we use them
[16:08] <NightbirdTX> bye everyone... Love and Light to you... thank you again, Nancy
[16:08] <Jurian> jwilliam: sat phones :p
[16:08] <Mr_Zeta> Nancy: are you a sts or what :(
[16:08] <NancyL> The public will be fed, boozed, whatever, distracted, and will forget that they worried about government food stores.
[16:08] * Jurian sets mode: +b *!*tacos@*.195-200-24.que.mc.videotron.ca
[16:08] <Jurian> stfu
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[16:09] <jwilliam> thanks nancy, so the goverment has a "diamond: anniversary of some type to distract , right.
[16:09] <agentY2> NANCY  what do u think about artbell retiring??  will u interview with george nooray ?
[16:09] <NancyL> Agent Y, if you approve, can we eat YOU first?  
[16:09] <agentY2> not w/o a fight.
[16:09] <redeye> lol
[16:09] <Jurian> heh, eat me after I've died
[16:09] <Jurian> just don't kill someone, to eat them, that'd be.. wrong
[16:09] <cybervvizz> don't take the digxxie
[16:09] <HenryK> Are Zetas people Etas
[16:09] <Jurian> and rather disturbing
[16:09] <jwilliam> I'm gonna be a veggie tarren ;o)
[16:09] <SinthBaron> nancy, you can eat me any time you want
[16:09] <LadyInRed> i bet agentY2 is sour:(
[16:09] <drfist> mad cow risk from the u.k
[16:10] <agentY2> lady can i eat u?
[16:10] <Mb_> So the public will be fed to distract them from the fact that there is no food?
[16:10] <Torbj> "frozen swede"...(jurian)
[16:10] <Jurian> of course, eating humans might not be very healthy :p
[16:10] <marksmann2> i will bring the A-1 sauce.......
[16:10] <NancyL> JWilliam, Internet, phones, often use satellites to loop over.
[16:10] <Mansur> Nancy, shoul I leave my house and family because of what some aliens says to you?
[16:10] <Jurian> specially not if you don't know what killed them :p
[16:10] <NancyL> Agent Y, what's the deal with Art Bell? I heard that, and don't know Goerge Nooray.
[16:10] <xiex> i heard baby fetus's are a delicacy in japan
[16:10] <SinthBaron> good thing i stocked up on don julio
[16:10] <Jurian> NancyL: Actually, the main internet backbone has *0* satellite links in it
[16:10] <NancyL> Isn't this the second time Bell has "retired"? What's up?
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[16:11] <ZooSpecimen> are the mass sightings on hold? or will we see one son?
[16:11] <xiex> hahaha ;)
[16:11] <Jurian> sat links are high latency, and therefore UNUSABLE for internet backbone
[16:11] <agentY2> nancyL  he will retire for good on jan1.2003.   says his back is very bad.  
[16:11] <ZooSpecimen> soon
[16:11] <Jurian> however
[16:11] <cybervvizz> orion
[16:11] <Jurian> there are quite a bunch of businesses using satellite links
[16:11] <Jeremy> ZooSpecimen: They will occur in areas of the world where the populace in the main are ready for it, so ZT says I think
[16:11] <agentY2> the first time her 'retired' was after his son was molested.
[16:11] <Jurian> and end-users like me :D
[16:11] <SinthBaron> i like george better than that other guy he had replace him before
[16:11] <cybervvizz> quite expensive
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[16:12] <Mansur> Nancy, when will we see you on CNN?
[16:12] <marksmann2> Art bell is having health problems
[16:12] <NancyL> zoo, Awakening is being done on local level, and locals often don't talk about it.  Thus, BIG upsurge in acceptance, outside of establishement control :-)
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[16:12] <FullMoon>  Nancy: are we meeting at 5 pm est next week due to the time change?    
[16:12] <agentY2> artbell is a big PX skeptic though.
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[16:12] <Rudy_Joe> Nancy, I got a '82 Chevy Monte Carlo that doesn't want to start when the weather is humid or raining. It starts up OK in dry weather. I haven't been able to figure out why it won't start on humid days... Can the Zetas explain why my car won't start in humid weather?
[16:12] <SinthBaron> nancy, will you consider and adult video?
[16:12] <NancyL> I suspect satellites are used more than folks realize.
[16:12] <RayC> NancyL: At what point can we expect active help from zetas or simular against STS forces?
[16:13] <NancyL> Planes use them, perhaps, for geosync rather than magnets?  Just guessing.
[16:13] <longint> One last Q: will it affect newer satellites also, or just the older ones? A serious Q!
[16:13] <Jurian> Rudy_Joe: try an umbrella for your car
[16:13] <NeilAway> Mansur, 7 weeks before shift :) there is no concrete date. :)
[16:13] <Jurian> Rudy_Joe: it probably doesn't like to be wet
[16:13] <drfist> spray some wd40 on the wires
[16:13] <L421> FullMoon: yes, UTC remains the same, we fall back
[16:13] <NancyL> FullMoon, are you LATE these days?  
[16:13] <Torbj> the global moneysystem is by sat...
[16:13] <ekim> Rudy_Joe> new ignition wires and a new coil will help
[16:14] <NancyL> FullMoon, YES, those of us using Daylight Saving Time will "fall back" next week.  I will be here an hour earlier, but not all use DST.
[16:14] <Jurian> Torbj: true, but afaik, that isn't linked to the internet, at all
[16:14] <cybervvizz> (NancyL): can you say someting about fuel availability like gasoline, but specific Liquid Propane Gas (to drive)
[16:14] <NancyL> Long, per the Z's, MORE satellites have been put up in anticipation of these problems, or experienced problems, as backup, but they are all failing, etc.
[16:14] <Torbj> no..not by the net...but all linked via sat´s
[16:14] <Jeremy> RayC: Hi Ray. Some STO communities in the aftertime will be protetced from attacks by STS groups by the method of distraction used by Council Of Worlds to implement quarantines for example ..
[16:15] <Mansur> Nancy, can you explain how is that that our moon does not rotate?
[16:15] <redeye> nancy,related to jeremys Q about moving in to the country (UK) in your opinion, will anywhere be safe in the UK at time of pole shift ?
[16:15] <Jurian> NancyL: how does this failing manifest itself? is it temporary, or permanent?
[16:15] <NancyL> L421, UTC is never on DST, right?  Good.  A stable anchor in times of change :-)
[16:15] <longint> Who anticipates this failing? The whole satellite industry?!
[16:15] <Jurian> Mansur: it does, it rotates exactly once, every 24 hours
[16:15] <L421> :)
[16:15] <marksmann2> Rudy_joe, its your distributor.
[16:15] <Jeremy> redeye: Hi. I've chosen my target relocation site in England already...
[16:15] <Mansur> Not according to Nancy Jurian
[16:16] <Orfner> nope not every 24 hrs
[16:16] <willshell> every 28 days
[16:16] <Jurian> Mansur: depends on how you look at it :p
[16:16] <NancyL> Cyber, petrol will burn up in the shift, bumped and lit and burn.  I would not be near stores of petrol during the shift.  NOT the energy of the future, no way.
[16:16] <HenryK> If the Zeta's fixed Art Bell's back, that might make him an ally.
[16:16] <Rudy_Joe> Thanks Ekim! Much appreciated. May the Car Gods look favorably upon you...
[16:16] <longint> Or are they anticipation SOME damage, and are prepared?
[16:16] <cybervvizz> yes, but before the shift
[16:16] <Jurian> it rotates around its own axis once ever 24 hours, and around earth, every 28 (?) days
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[16:16] <oceantree> Nancy, how did the planets in our solar system evolve?
[16:16] <Torbj> if it didnt rotate....you shouldnt have a "dark side"
[16:16] <NancyL> Mansur, clearly the Moon has a side that is more magnetic than the other side, as it has no liquid core, and like the Atlantic Rift which gets gripped by Px, that side of the moon is facing Earth, etc.
[16:17] <RayC> Jeremy I'm asking when they will intervene not if or who.
[16:17] <Jurian> exactly
[16:17] <willshell> it rotates around its own axis AND earth every 28 days
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[16:17] <secridrose> may other sto earth intelligences unveil themselves after the ps, helping to pick things up?
[16:17] <Orfner> the moon has no dark side
[16:17] <S7L> Torbj: the name is really *far* side, not dark side
[16:17] <NancyL> Maybe not magnetic, but some attractant like that, etc.
[16:17] <Mansur> Yes you are right, but Nancy don´t agree on that
[16:17] <Jurian> willshell: hrm, yeah, you're right of course
[16:17] <ZooSpecimen> are there any human souls in the hybrids yet?
[16:17] <NancyL> It does not rotate, only gets turned around as it goes around the Earth in orbit.  
[16:17] <NancyL> It orbits, does not rotate, truly.
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[16:17] <Silk-away> lol
[16:17] <Orfner> it does rotate
[16:17] <Jurian> but, depending on how you look at it, it doesn't really rotate
[16:18] <NancyL> HenryK, I doubt Bell's back is the problem.
[16:18] <Rudy_Joe> Thank you, Marksmann2 for your well appreciated comments!
[16:18] <obany> hello SarahMC
[16:18] <cybervvizz> it does it doesn't it wips !
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[16:18] <agentY2> PHYSics pHD's  say PX is impossible, right???
[16:18] <Silk> hey Obany
[16:18] <Jurian> moon rotating or not depends 100% on how you look at it
[16:18] <agentY2> y is that.
[16:18] <Silk> the moon rotates, period
[16:18] <NancyL> RayC, I have not heard, but will be in the After Dark mag next Dec, or so was stated during the interview with Lex.
[16:18] <Mb_> Nancy: What's the difference between rotating and "getting turned around?"
[16:18] <willshell> yup, i never saw it rotate lol
[16:18] <S7L> Jurian: well, you have to be in a coordinate system which rotates (in reference to background stars), to claim Moon doesn't rotate
[16:18] <obany> and this not #sciastro period
[16:19] <RayC> NancyL : thank you.
[16:19] <ZooSpecimen> if moon did not rotate we would see all all sides
[16:19] <Jurian> S7L: I know :P
[16:19] <Silk> correct
[16:19] <NancyL> Zoo, souls are in the hybrids at birth!  I suspect they will have a VERY active test tube/incubator production the months before the shift.
[16:19] <Jurian> and I agree it rotates, just that I understand why people say it doesn't rotate
[16:20] <cybervvizz> no, if it is gripped by the magnetic field, it can't rotate, but can loop because it is not strong enough to stop ...
[16:20] <NancyL> Sarah, you should meet up with SinthBaron, he's your type!
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[16:20] <Silk> what's my type Nancy?
[16:20] <NeilAway> can zetas explain WHEN satellites failures become as real problem for
[16:20] <Silk> as if you would know - lol
[16:20] <cybervvizz> when it stops it's not strong enough to loop, so the moon doesn't rotate because it loops and does not rotates :-),
[16:20] <NancyL> I'm sure Sinth will explain, he's been explaining in your absense.  
[16:20] <Jurian> heh, ugh, can we please not go back to the lesbian shit?
[16:21] <cybervvizz> lesbians ?
[16:21] * obany sets mode: +m
[16:21] <Jurian> ?
[16:21] <obany> Hush everyone, if you wonna fight use a private message .. not in the channel please
[16:21] <NancyL> Sex starved!  And trolling!  This is not a dating service folks, so please, you guys, help Sarah out as she obviously needs a date!
[16:21] * obany sets mode: -m
[16:21] <secridrose> may other sto earth intelligences unveil themselves after the ps, helping to pick things up?
[16:21] <cybervvizz> i am lesbian !
[16:21] <Silk> here we go, and I didn't say one thing to start it
[16:21] <Mansur> Nancy, will you eat up your words with ketcup if X does not show up? ;)
[16:21] <Jurian> NancyL: please stop with that shit
[16:22] <S7L> oh my fucking god, she's on it again
[16:22] <Orfner> that was real STO NancyL
[16:22] <SinthBaron> so am I
[16:22] <xiex> eww. soy sauce & oil do not mix well
[16:22] <cybervvizz> i like human talk, so mature
[16:22] <Jurian> Mansur: probably, if you deep-fry them :p
[16:22] <SinthBaron> nancy is a dyke?
[16:22] <Orfner> NanZeta take another pill please and that is really going tooooo far.
[16:22] <SinthBaron> damn, there goes all my masturbation fantasies
[16:22] <Torbj> whats a lesbian....a planet?
[16:23] <inkpen> lo;l
[16:23] <cybervvizz> nancy is a harworking medium, at least, most of you can't channel
[16:23] <NancyL> Poor Sarah hasn't figures out that divorcees have the trump card!  If attractive at all, they can get a young male lover 15 years younger as a steady!  Worked for me, and I didn't go trolling on IRC chats either, nor have lesbian obsession as poor Sarah is aflicted with.
[16:23] <Jurian> ugh, stop the goddamn sex bullshit
[16:23] <xiex> guys be nice
[16:23] <cybervvizz> don't shoot the pianist
[16:23] <Orfner> neither can she
[16:23] <Mb_> Nancy:  Why do you say that Sarah needs a date?   What does this have to do with Zetatalk?
[16:23] <Jurian> right, that's it, this session is over
[16:23] <S7L>  hahaha
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[16:23] <NancyL> Manusr, you mean after I'm burned at the stake?
[16:23] <SinthBaron> whos sarah
[16:23] <SinthBaron> ?
[16:23] <Silk> Me
[16:23] <Lebrasse> Nancy, u can be so surreal at times!!  :-)
[16:23] <Silk> Nancy likes attacking me
[16:23] <SinthBaron> join the club
[16:24] <Silk> because she can't answer my questions
[16:24] <cybervvizz> and still you insult yourself when you insult another
[16:24] <NancyL> Sinth, Sarah is apparently, she brought the subject up couple weeks ago, out of the blue!
[16:24] <Silk> Hardly Nancy
[16:24] <S7L> really? What did she say?
[16:24] <Jurian> NancyL: STOP
[16:24] <Pegasi71> Nancy is punching you back, silk. Karma karma karma
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[16:24] <SinthBaron> im not a lesbo, but i am flexible
[16:24] <Silk> Thanks Jurian
[16:24] <Orfner> She sure won't tell me the mag. of PX
[16:24] <splat> LOL..Nancy..the loose canno
[16:24] <Jurian> I don't care if you 2 don't like each other
[16:24] <splat> cannon
[16:24] <jwilliam> karma ;o)
[16:24] <Jurian> this fucking shit stop right now
[16:24] <SinthBaron> are you?
[16:24] <Orfner> OH that is because it is not there
[16:24] <NancyL> Mb, she comes in there dressed as Silk, Velvet, and Lace and then starts talking about dating women, read the log couple weeks ago.
[16:24] <Orfner> won't be there and never was there
[16:25] <NancyL> Sad, really, and not necessary.
[16:25] <DraganR> Cool like Nancy can be only does that speak the truth.
[16:25] <Rudy_Joe> I've always treated Sarah very nice on sci.astro, but  she is always complaining about one thing or another. I think she is a man hater.
[16:25] <Clipper> Jurian: cussing doesn't help
[16:25] * Jurian sets mode: -o+b NancyL *!*lieder@*.baraboo.com
[16:25] * NancyL was kicked by Jurian (cya next week, loose the attitude problem)
[16:25] <Torbj> this is not fun at all....
[16:25] <Jeremy> wtf
[16:25] <Silk> Thank you
[16:25] <Jurian> this is fucking rediculous
[16:25] <Orfner> THANK YOU
[16:25] <Silk> yes it is
[16:25] <jwilliam> orfener , stick your head in the sand and keep repeating ... its not coming its not coming
[16:25] <cybervvizz> yes, i would know if that black disc was a zetan plane or not
[16:25] <Jurian> if this happens again, I will refuse to let this show continue on my network
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[16:25] <cybervvizz> ego eggo ego ego ego stsss
[16:25] <Mb_> Well, isn't that interesting?
[16:25] <S7L> I think this would have been a rather amusing log though
[16:26] <Silk> Jurian, if it helps, I'll stay off
[16:26] <Orfner> jwilliam pull you head out of you A__ and look at the sky
[16:26] <xiex> HEH wtf Jurian
[16:26] <SinthBaron> damn
[16:26] <ZooSpecimen> i thought this was nancy's chat?
[16:26] <Jurian> its still my network
[16:26] <xiex> oh yeah
[16:26] <cybervvizz> yes, he is IRCop
[16:26] <Jeremy> Jurian: I think banning Nancy was a bit too far
[16:26] <xiex> heh
[16:26] <jwilliam> i have orfner
[16:26] <Jurian> and I will not allow this stupid insulting shit
[16:26] <RayC> thanks jurian. people always seem to forget why we are here.
[16:26] <cybervvizz> don't mess with the IRCop's
[16:26] <xiex> she was just unwinding guy she actually cracked jokes
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[16:26] <obany> Juirna removethe ban please
[16:26] <SinthBaron> hahahahaha
[16:26] <xiex> comon she's like 56 or so now
[16:26] <Orfner> Don't do it
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[16:26] <PJ> geezus christ listen to jurian
[16:26] <xiex> gotta give her credit
[16:26] * Jurian sets mode: -b *!*lieder@*.baraboo.com
[16:27] <Mb_> Good work Jurian.  I applaud you!
[16:27] <Orfner> Silk thanks for the info...
[16:27] <inkpen> is this a soap?
[16:27] <Jurian> that shit happen again, and this is over
[16:27] <LadyInRed> she was just pay back time
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[16:27] <AGreenspan> At least one individual here has character.
[16:27] <SinthBaron> this will be a chat log to remember
[16:27] <Silk> I'll leave, I'm not here to cause trouble
[16:27] <secridrose> why not ban those who create the problem?
[16:27] * Silk has left #zetatalk
[16:27] * secridrose has quit IRC
[16:27] <redeye> silk : yeah right
[16:27] <SinthBaron> its all my fault
[16:27] <cybervvizz> i wonder how most of you wil become sto, if you can't handle your own ego
[16:27] <DraganR> TIPICULY HUMAN SITUATION....ARGUMENTS
[16:27] * Michaellss has quit IRC
[16:27] <xiex> hehe
[16:27] <Pegasi71> So Nancy isnt allowed to defend hersefl? that's 'fkd up
[16:27] <Rudy_Joe> I agree with Jurian. This chart  should be related to Planet_X and the Zetas, not to Tripple_X stuff...
[16:28] <inkpen> yea
[16:28] <jwilliam> go placidly amid the noise and haste ... and don't forget to ..... breath
[16:28] <SinthBaron> like what?
[16:28] <Jurian> Pegasi71: its zetatalk , not nancy-insults-everyone-who-disagrees-talk
[16:28] <SinthBaron> heh
[16:28] <inkpen> but still a ban/...
[16:28] <Lebrasse> brave but fair Jurian, she was warned!
[16:28] <HenryK> Zetas will fry your ass Jurian
[16:28] <[3j]> wtf
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[16:28] <ChiefSimi> Thanks for the inspiring great political ZetaTalk!
[16:28] <Rudy_Joe> Didn't I tell you that Sarah was a trouble maker???
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[16:28] <[3j]> jurian did you kickban ??!
[16:28] <S7L> but really... did Sarah actually say anything about dating women in the irclog?
[16:28] <Jurian> no
[16:28] * S7L gotta read it
[16:28] * [3j] scrolls up
[16:28] <Jurian> nancy started that, 2 weeks ago
[16:29] <SinthBaron> i dont date woman
[16:29] <jwilliam> she was insinuating nancy was a lesbian .
[16:29] <Mb_> Rudy:  What did Sarah do?
[16:29] <ZooSpecimen> i take it nancy's not comming back?
[16:29] <cybervvizz> i date women :-),
[16:29] <xiex> heh nancy is gone for the week
[16:29] * oceantree has quit IRC
[16:29] <xiex> she quit allready
[16:29] <SinthBaron> i dont see how nancy could get some if she was a dike anyways
[16:29] <Jurian> 2 weeks ago, this started, I tolerated it then, but no more
[16:29] <Jurian> this is rediculous, personally attacking people goes too far
[16:29] <jwilliam> i agree jurian , your call
[16:30] <Rudy_Joe> She started talking about perverse sexual matters and incited Nancy to participate in the conversation a few weeks ago.... disgusting.
[16:30] <cybervvizz> i agree to there are still IRC rulez
[16:30] <cybervvizz> too
[16:30] <Jurian> fuck it, I'm damn angry, I'm shaking *#$&)@ :)
[16:30] <SinthBaron> hmm?
[16:30] <Clipper> You guys do realize that the Zetas do not have to do this chat. They could stop at anytime and let you guys actually think for yourselves.
[16:30] <inkpen> this needs to be resolved or next week...
[16:30] <xiex> IRC Is the shit guys.
[16:30] <drfist> whats wrong with a good cat fight?
[16:30] * S7L doesn't find that line
[16:30] <SinthBaron> this seems like a good time for nancy to dissapear into oblivion
[16:30] * Mb_ has left #zetatalk
[16:30] <Jurian> Clipper: nancy also needs to realize that she cannot go spraying shit about people
[16:30] <NeilAway> is there anybody who preparing for PS, like mov
[16:30] <NeilAway>  family to safe places, making food bunkers etc?
[16:31] <SinthBaron> i have a farm
[16:31] <jwilliam> I hope nancy has got it out of her system, and will be back to norm next week ;o)
[16:31] <Rudy_Joe> Thanks Jurian... We appreciate folks who stand firmly by their principles.
[16:31] <Jurian> Clipper: how does that help the message?
[16:31] <SinthBaron> and 120 acres
[16:31] <obany> Sintbaron: it ain't
[16:31] <ZooSpecimen> ...well looks like the STS won this round!
[16:31] <inkpen> i need a farm
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[16:31] <SinthBaron> seems like it tho obany
[16:31] <Pegasi71> Yep, silk=STS, that little bitch
[16:31] <jwilliam> zoo: you are assuming
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[16:31] <cybervvizz> Zeta's points to the destruction of your own selfish motivations, so... it's ridiculous to do cat fight
[16:32] <Lebrasse> I think Nancy will applaud Jurian for showing such a balanced hand and not being scared to be fair
[16:32] <cybervvizz> anyway it's spirritual behavour too
[16:32] <Clipper> Didn't say it did help the message Jurian. I leave for a few months and I can see that some things don't change. If I was the contact for the Z's, I would not do the chat again.
[16:32] <S7L> bah, wading through these irclogs is not my idea of fun
[16:32] <Jurian> even if she is, she could be banned, there is no need for personally attacking people
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[16:32] <SinthBaron> whatever happened to chats about planet x, now its just about bush
[16:32] <xiex> why can everyone spray her and she cant spray people back guy?
[16:32] <agentY2> wtf?? nancy banned??
[16:32] <drfist> really
[16:32] <Jurian> Clipper: well, if this happens again, you can be sure it will be the last time
[16:32] <cybervvizz> she is a medium and she does not need to defend herself on the talks of the messengers
[16:32] <inkpen> look at the past couple logs xier
[16:33] <Torbj> Ivé talked about this erlier....be detached....and you do not need to "give back" at someone.....but that´s human, and Nancy is human...dont forget that!
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[16:33] <earlene> Neilaway, I am trying to store supplies, having just moved to relative safety in NC from Florida.  It is very hard to unpack and still store items.
[16:33] <SinthBaron> really, i thought she was hot
[16:33] <obany> Jurian: ??? then she will have to move to another server you would say .. not funnet?
[16:33] <SinthBaron> where in nc?
[16:33] <Jurian> I find it extremely disgusting if people try to talk bad about others by calling them gay or lesbian, or whatever
[16:33] <Jurian> who gives a fuckign shit what someone's sexual preference is?
[16:33] <SinthBaron> i am flexible
[16:33] <inkpen> ya
[16:33] <jwilliam> Jurian; there have been serious personal insults traded on sci.astro, it was bound to blow back.  
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[16:33] <Zetapal> let me see if I got this straight, you can call somebody stupid but you can't call them a lezbo ?
[16:33] <xiex> inkpen ive been here for the past 2 months what do you mean look at the logs
[16:34] <cybervvizz> we don't doubt zeta's are real, we don't doubt NancyL is a good medium, but ... both are strange in their behaviour
[16:34] <jwilliam> ;o)
[16:34] <PJ> call the kettle black why dont you
[16:34] <Jurian> jwilliam: fine, just not on any network I run
[16:34] <SinthBaron> i wanna see a zetan
[16:34] <earlene> Franklin,NC
[16:34] <jwilliam> i understand
[16:34] <drfist> it's more genetic then preference anayway so not an issue to bring up
[16:34] <cybervvizz> i hiope you never see one
[16:34] <SinthBaron> nice place
[16:34] <PJ> manhood problems
[16:34] <SinthBaron> why not?
[16:34] <Jurian> zetatalk is very interesting, which is why I offered my services and let it run here
[16:34] <RayC> bye bye
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[16:34] <Jurian> but if it turns into personal attacks against people, I am done
[16:35] <cybervvizz> be a mouse and you will be glad to miss the cat
[16:35] <NeilAway> earlene, ok? one pioneer we have... applauds to zetas for their great work!
[16:35] <SinthBaron> hmmm...good one
[16:35] <S7L> Nancy has the priviledge of getting some fire because she is, after all, the public figure here. She is the celebrity, or in such role.
[16:35] <Zetapal> jurian people insult each other in here all the time - where have YOU been ?
[16:35] <jwilliam> We're moving into the climax of Zetatalks whole reason, tempers fray and pressures on
[16:35] <SinthBaron> neil, did you take your meds this morning?
[16:35] <PJ> personal attacks have been going on for a long ass time where have you been jurian
[16:35] <inkpen> jurian is stopping it!
[16:35] <Jurian> Zetapal: usually they don't go too far, specially not after multiple warnings
[16:35] <longint> <Jurian> but if it turns into personal attacks against people, I am done       Yes, you are right.
[16:36] <cybervvizz> ego is not sto
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[16:36] <Jurian> just because she is nancy, doesn't mean she doesn't have to live by the rules
[16:36] <S7L> If two people are discussing, it is typically she who starts with the personal insults, as far as I have seen.
[16:36] * agentY2 has to go. gonna go mastur...err sleep. ta ta folks.
[16:36] <Zetapal> What rules jurian
[16:36] <inkpen> lol
[16:36] * agentY2 is now known as agentAwayZZZZZZ
[16:36] <inkpen> bye
[16:36] <PJ> you dont live by the rules jurian
[16:36] <agentAwayZZZZZZ> bye.
[16:36] <Beam> bye
[16:36] <S7L> she can't help but read some remarks that way, I think
[16:36] * Beam is now known as Nolly
[16:36] <longint> But if you kick her, count that she wonT conme back.
[16:36] <cybervvizz> no ? well disconnect to DALnet
[16:36] <splat> she'll be back
[16:36] <Clipper> So ...... saying things like ....... fuck ..... shit, ect is the way a moderator should talk? Fucking cussing is okay?
[16:36] <Nolly> He folks  
[16:36] <Torbj> Jurian right though.....the next step would be "racial" comments thrown
[16:37] <longint> But if you kick her, count that she can do not to conme back.
[16:37] <Nolly> I am back...
[16:37] <S7L> longint: actually, Jurian was a lot more thorough than that. He also banned her, *preventing* a coming back.
[16:37] <Zetapal> where are you to enforce the rules when everyone else is insulting each other or "attacking" as you like to say - YOU are the one being ridiculous
[16:37] <inkpen> it has to stop...
[16:37] <longint> O, i know ban, then replace my word.
[16:37] <Nolly> still wanna see a disc before i die!!!
[16:37] <Nolly> he lol!
[16:37] <SinthBaron> its his channel, he can do whatever the fuck he wants
[16:37] <cybervvizz> zetapal, you are not an example of good behaviour in the past either
[16:37] <Zetapal> we are not talking about me
[16:37] <NeilAway> baron, what do you mean? that you can't sense an irony?
[16:38] <Jurian> Clipper: cussing isn't nearly as lame as attacking someone personally, trying to make them look bad to the whole world
[16:38] <Zetapal> dont change the subject
[16:38] <SinthBaron> yep
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[16:38] <Venus> this is quite a useless discussion
[16:38] <cybervvizz> most people look to others rather to themselves
[16:38] * S7L just thinks that line from Nancy reading "If attractive at all, they can get a young male lover 15 years younger as a steady!  Worked for me, and I didn't go trolling on IRC chats either" is just bizarre
[16:38] <jwilliam> Jurian: I can only thank you for your support in the past, your continued fair monitoring, your actions today, and hopefully your laying down the rules to Nancy
[16:38] <NeilAway> so sad
[16:38] <Jurian> and I am probably not a good moderator, I'm just a techy offering a network
[16:38] <LadyInRed> they have ALL attacked Nancy in the past!
[16:38] <obany> Jurian : mister bad temper :P
[16:38] <jwilliam> and next week we will return to a civil Q & A
[16:39] <HenryK> NancyL has started to resort to these personal attacks, since Planet X has started looking more like Planet eX.
[16:39] <splat> The type of attack that Nancy engaged in is quite different than the types of attacks that Nancy has endured
[16:39] <Zetapal> Jurian - whats it to you what gets said in here ?
[16:39] <longint> S7L: I meant that he should count on the possibility for Nancy NOT coming back to the chat EVER
[16:39] * Nolly : pointing fingers.....????
[16:39] <jwilliam> splat: no its not
[16:39] <NeilAway> jwiilam, for a hour, not more. :)
[16:39] <Clipper> Next week, I will not be here. I don't need this chat to get by. I already know what I need to know.
[16:39] <splat> yes, on this channel it is indeed.
[16:39] <SinthBaron> she doesnt want to answer questions that need to be answered
[16:39] * inkpen slaps inkpen around a bit with a large trout
[16:39] <SinthBaron> f her
[16:40] <Jurian> Zetapal: other than being rather offensive, she's losing credibility fast, every time she does that nonsense
[16:40] <Jurian> imho, anyway
[16:40] <cybervvizz> yes like the relationship with Nordics ;-),
[16:40] <S7L> longint: *shrugs*
[16:40] <jwilliam> its a bifgger world than just this chat
[16:40] <Zetapal> of all the arrogant maneuvers, Jurian who made you Minister of Propaganda ?
[16:40] <Nolly> There are a lot of irc. networks
[16:40] <Rudy_Joe> Officially, the Zetatalk session was supposed to be over by 7PM. Nancy was just hanging out for an extra half hour making small talk... then Sarah joined the session late. Some one else made a randy comment about Sarah. Nancy followed the direction of the conversation by making a suggestive remark. Then Jurian explained that it wasn't appropriate..
[16:40] <Clipper> And don't forget, I own some of the mailing lists. I could cancel them at any time as well.
[16:40] <cybervvizz> he just proceeds with the irc rulez
[16:40] <cybervvizz> lamer
[16:40] <Jurian> Zetapal: I did
[16:40] <PJ> losing credibility my ass who are you to say what the hell is credable
[16:40] <splat> that's ridiculous Jwilliam. Silk didn't say a word before Nancy tore into her..it is quite different than attacks on Nancy
[16:40] <longint> <LadyInRed> they have ALL attacked Nancy in the past!        You have right, and try to think pschychically, what can play in Nancy's mind Attacks, attack and waatack... What can the response be to that..?  Other than attack..
[16:40] <SinthBaron> was that me, i cant remember?
[16:41] <jwilliam> splat; read the google logs for Sarah Mc
[16:41] <S7L> Nancy just must be boiling from the heat she has got from Silk on sci.astro
[16:41] <S7L> This lady has a sharp tongue, be her lesbian or not.
[16:41] <Zetapal> then LET HER lose her credibility - what are you protecting her credibility now ? - If she is a jerk of a human being then let her reveal herself for who she is - you debunkers should applaud THAT
[16:41] <cybervvizz> look rfc's or www.funnet.org or buy a IRC book for dummy's
[16:41] <splat> the google logs is sci-astro, where Nancy has incited all of the uproar there
[16:41] <[3j]> so nancy and planetxvideo guy = lovers
[16:41] <Jurian> even IF she is lesbian, what does that have to do with anything?
[16:42] <SinthBaron> zetapal: agreed
[16:42] * ChanServ sets mode: +o obany
[16:42] <S7L> Jurian: well, there you catch her: nothing.
[16:42] <obany> !op
[16:42] <AD9> If this PX stuff is true, we should give her a little more leaway and a lot of respect for all her work and efforts. This PX must be a big stress for her also, considering the obuse she must be taking from people who are getting real scared about this. Give her a little more room to unwind at times.
[16:42] <jwilliam> Nancy has tried to warn of incomin bogey
[16:42] <Nolly> Bye folks ...i will wait/see what the future brings
[16:42] <[3j]> 'you debunkers' ? lol!
[16:42] <Zetapal> I say let her show her true character- who are you protecting Jurian
[16:42] <Jurian> I really hope people can look beyond that nonsense
[16:42] <S7L> AD9: the problem is that it's not coming true
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[16:42] <earlene> From the sound of Nancy's reaction, this must have started somewhere else, but why did she use this channel to continue?
[16:42] <Jurian> Zetapal: fair enough
[16:42] <Nolly> bye;-)
[16:42] * obany sets mode: +b *!*@62.59.144.*
[16:42] <Jurian> I shall not care anymore
[16:42] <[3j]> you've been hanging with qv too much
[16:42] * Jurian sets mode: -o Jurian
[16:43] <[3j]> hehe symbolic gesture
[16:43] * Nolly has left #zetatalk
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[16:43] <Rudy_Joe> Nobody knows who or what Sarah is. She may be some kind of alien for all we know?
[16:43] <Jurian> just don't ask me for help if shit happens
[16:43] * Orfner has quit IRC (now you see what the NanZeta is really like... And Sarah is not an alien you moron)
[16:43] <xiex> <3
[16:43] <NeilAway> Jurian? problem is there is nothing to look, nothing concrete and approved.
[16:43] <splat> Doesn't matter Rudy..Sarah's gone now, says she won't be back..Nancy got what she wanted
[16:44] <S7L> Rudy_Joe: hardly. Sarah told who she is in the past, when Nancy was pressuring her like "who are you? Can't tell, must be government paid person"
[16:44] <SinthBaron> will the mighty nancy be back tho?
[16:44] <[3j]> of course
[16:44] <earlene> RudyJoe, Or a government agent purposely trying to interrupt this channel.
[16:44] <splat> Of course..this is where her audience is
[16:44] <[3j]> shes gona hold the weekly chats
[16:44] * QueenVee is now known as Queen-away
[16:44] <obany> i am sure she will back next week
[16:44] <HighLandrer> Actually I thought that lesbian stuff was all behind us...and then right at the end today..it starts up...
[16:44] <Zetapal> I say if the woman is a jerk fool or is starting to go insane - then by all means let her come in here week after week and slowly loose her friggin mind right here in front of all of us - we who have been wasting our time week in and week out with this nonsense are due that much consideration at least - if nancy's a nut job then we are entitled to find out
[16:44] <[3j]> dunno splat, her website gets more hits and passes more bandwidth than this chat
[16:44] <HighLandrer> weekly chats??
[16:44] <longint> obany: sure
[16:45] <Jurian> she's quite welcome to come back next week
[16:45] <Jurian> and I wont ban her again for that shit
[16:45] <longint> she can learn from the Zetas
[16:45] <splat> 3j..that's just a website..not personal fawning
[16:45] <SinthBaron> whats wrong with lezbians?
[16:45] <longint> trying not to get things personally
[16:45] <longint> trying not to take things personally
[16:45] <[3j]> right but i meant in relation to her audience
[16:45] <[3j]> dont forget sci.astro
[16:45] <Venus> yay for lesbians :-)
[16:45] <splat> operative word was fawning 3j
[16:45] <[3j]> the so called "debates" which are really just obvious trolling
[16:46] <HighLandrer> where are the weekly chats?
[16:46] * LadyInRed has left #zetatalk
[16:46] <Torbj> It was a good "eye opener" to Nancy....this dirty talk is making her loose cred....her being a ordenary human being under stress....and she IS a true channel....
[16:46] <Jurian> I'm sure she is on a lot of pressure, but as obany so much likes to say, this is not sci.astro, if she wants to throw mud, she can do it there
[16:46] <cybervvizz> a true channel but a true messenger ?
[16:46] <jwilliam> would you know a debate if it hit you in the eye?
[16:46] <Zetapal> this whole idiotic saga is about Nancy and her either imaginary zetas or her insanity at hearing vioices - this chat has nothing to do with Jurian, Jurian we don't come here to see you or care a wit about what you think is fair - shame on you for interferring
[16:46] <Rudy_Joe> Well, it will be interesting to see what happens next week. I wonder what Nancy will have to say during the next session... if there is one? Meanwhile... Thanks for another great Zetatalk session! See you all next week - God willing.
[16:46] <SinthBaron> oh please, she needs to start taking her meds again
[16:46] <Torbj> so if this can make her see the negatives about "hitting back"....it was a good thing Juri boy...!
[16:47] <SinthBaron> with all the profit from the book and video sales, you think she could afford them?
[16:47] * S7L wonders if Nancy *has* meds
[16:47] <jwilliam> zetapal: it requires a referee, thats Jurian
[16:47] <Jurian> Zetapal: you don't wanna see me interfere
[16:47] <AD9> I think she deserves more room to unwind. This could easily be just an aspect of her sense of humor and nothing more serious.
[16:47] <Zetapal> duh correct, no interferrence
[16:47] <obany> Zetapal: Jurian can do so much more then just a kick and a ban ...
[16:47] <SinthBaron> she sounded like she was reading from a script when she was on art bell
[16:48] <obany> so don't piss him off
[16:48] <obany> :)
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[16:48] <splat> AD9: Such an sto example of unwinding, wouldn't you say?
[16:48] <S7L> AD9: we have been observing her 'sense of humour' for a few years. I can assure you this is not jokes on her part, but attempts to pressure Sarah out, and she succeeded.
[16:48] <cybervvizz> tsss, sometimes it's hard to be a IRCop and to obey both offered ways
[16:48] <SinthBaron> i wonder what she has in store for me?
[16:48] <splat> S7L: Agree entirely
[16:48] <Zetapal> we are all grown ups here - who here cant handle an insult - happens all the time - noone is being "hurt" as you might say - its just a friggin chat room for gods sake
[16:48] <Jurian> I left tt inc partially because of this rediculous shit
[16:48] <Rudy_Joe> Oh, and thanks to the folks for giving me the great tips on fixing my Chevy!
[16:48] <jwilliam> What has been sarah Mc contribution to ZT?
[16:48] <Jurian> too much mud throwing
[16:48] <S7L> jwilliam: much-needed criticism
[16:48] <ChiefSimi> She might come back, but I may not? Who cares about the Bush and other political shit? Where hav the old interesting sessions gone?
[16:49] <Jurian> discredits the whole message more than the lack of pictures of PX
[16:49] <SinthBaron> exactly cheif
[16:49] <AD9> Who else is going to channel the Zetas if not her? Over look this stuff, its not serious.
[16:49] * NeilAway has quit IRC (Leaving)
[16:49] <SinthBaron> I will channel the Zetas
[16:49] <HighLandrer> perhaps...this is all part of a 'plan'???
[16:49] <jwilliam> chief simi send in the Q's
[16:49] <cybervvizz> yes, like as said, the mouth reflects the heart
[16:49] <longint> He sent in but it was declined all.
[16:49] <splat> AD9: These are attributes of your proposed saviour?
[16:49] <S7L> The 'plan' is simply a desire to give latitude to Nancy when common sense says she's nuts
[16:49] <Jurian> well, either zetatalk is real, or its not. it'll all be clear in a bunch of months anyway
[16:50] <inkpen> there are other mediums for zetas out there
[16:50] <longint> We alwasy ask aboudt density and such, but ALL declined.
[16:50] <Rudy_Joe> Well, I'm  going to check out sci.astro to see if you-know-who is posting any info there... A hale and hearty farewell to all!
[16:50] <longint> She said, not now, not now.
[16:50] <jwilliam> 7 months and counting
[16:50] <SinthBaron> ZT: Do not fart, as It will let Busha and his cronies find out your food stores.
[16:50] <ChiefSimi> Longint sent in, and was also declined
[16:50] <S7L> only 200 days
[16:50] <SinthBaron> End ZT
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[16:50] <S7L> then, we hope, it will be all over.
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[16:50] <islander> interesting session, just curious...of all those 60+ still in attendance, how may are practicing some backyard astronomy or primarily focused on PX?
[16:50] <longint> Maybe the Zetas deem it more effective to discuss politics NOw.
[16:50] <cybervvizz> or it's
[16:50] <Zetapal> then let the message be discredited - Jurian are you now the protector of the message - screw the message and leave it alone Jurian - if the message must die because nancy is a nut job then let the message die - Jurian if you want to be a pastor of a congregation and protect a flock then don't do it here
[16:50] <PJ> it doesnt discredit anything she was just acknowledging what was said to her
[16:50] <cybervvizz> FINAL END ZT
[16:50] <cybervvizz> snif
[16:51] <cybervvizz> just a joke ;-)
[16:51] <jwilliam> i'm focussed on survival
[16:51] <Jurian> heh, well, better luck next week
[16:51] <SinthBaron> who wants to come live on my farm?
[16:51] <Venus> lol
[16:51] <Torbj> If you have a child, u love it, but ban it, if it´s wrongdoing (in your eyes)
[16:51] <inkpen> sure
[16:51] <HighLandrer> if nancy does not want that behaviour in here...then she should not do it either..
[16:51] <[3j]> geez Zetapal how many times are you going to say nancy is a nut job?
[16:51] <cybervvizz> torbj, you are such a cute
[16:52] <Zetapal> Jesus christ all you savior wannabes are just as nuts as Nancy - but we are here to document HER demise for posterity, not yours, one wacko at a time please
[16:52] <HighLandrer> do as I say  not as I do?
[16:52] <xiex> well if im cyb0ring a chix0r and my kid comes into my channel i'll kick him out too
[16:52] <earlene> Thanks, Jurian, and I hope we will see more signs of PX soon, or the disinfo crowd might succeed.
[16:52] <cybervvizz> btw jesus was Nordic alike...
[16:52] <Jurian> earlene: I hope so too
[16:52] <SinthBaron> but I want px to come, so I can GET ALL THE POWERUPS!!!
[16:52] <Zetapal> how dare you
[16:52] <cybervvizz> hwo dare you, ever seen him ?
[16:53] <inkpen> lol
[16:53] <AD9> No splat, I have a higher Personal Savior. But Nancy should be given more room to unwind and not attacked by some for minor infractions. She is the whole reason the zetas talk to us, if this is all true
[16:53] <Jurian> either way, time will tell
[16:53] <[3j]> you hope it comes? crazy fools
[16:53] <Torbj> cyber...believe me....im not cute....im ugly!
[16:53] <jwilliam> Gonna be pretty hard for debunkers to succeed when theres a big planet in the sky. 7 months and counting. gotta go bye JWD
[16:53] <Venus> gee torbj, i'm having trouble to believe that :-)
[16:53] <ChiefSimi> Nancy became aggressive in the last couple of months, I wonder how she would deal with that
[16:53] <xiex> heh funny how at the begiining i was like yeah this is really cool! now everything is "if its really true"
[16:53] <cybervvizz> cute ugly nozienosie
[16:53] <[3j]> if you hate the world so much you be better off killing yourself than hoping something comes to kill everyone else! that is just plain selfish !!!
[16:53] <S7L> AD9: just read more of what she has done in the past... Go th groups.google.com and type "author:Nancy sci.astro zetatalk" and like and start reading. Check the responses. Try to hit period around 1996
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[16:53] <PJ> shes not aggressive....grow up
[16:53] <splat> AD9: Her conduct counteracts her message. If Nancy is such a prime example of STO behaviour, consider what your personal Saviour might think of her actions today
[16:53] <SinthBaron> I dont see no friggen Planet X
[16:54] <SinthBaron> white noise, thats all
[16:54] <inkpen> not yet
[16:54] <AD9> you don't throw out the baby with the bath water.
[16:54] <inkpen> who knows what the future will bring
[16:54] <ChiefSimi> Jurian, will you contact Nancy via e-mail, or such?
[16:54] <S7L> That's stuff you won't find no zetatalk.com and that's because it's so *lousy*. Except for an attempt to explain away her failed hale-bopp prediction
[16:54] <cybervvizz> ok, is there another channeler in the room ?
[16:54] <SinthBaron> I will eat shit if it does come tho, you have my word
[16:54] <Torbj> thx Venus!....now i am cute!
[16:54] <inkpen> lol
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[16:54] <monoxyde> SinthBaron i'll be trying to get laid :P
[16:54] <AGreenspan> splat: Do not confuse STO behaviour with saintly one. She is obviously all too human.
[16:54] <Venus> see :-)
[16:55] <inkpen> lol
[16:55] <Zetapal> Jurian I am so angry with you right now I could spit
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[16:55] <S7L> AD9: if you really read all the stuff Nancy has written, or some 90 % most of it, you recognize that there is very likely no baby in this water. That is my opinion.
[16:55] <SinthBaron> godammit, my cat just took a shit....ahhhhh the smell!
[16:55] <monoxyde> no baby in the womb
[16:55] <Venus> Zetapal what keeps you here then
[16:55] <inkpen> then spit
[16:55] <Jurian> ChiefSimi: Yeah, I'm emailing her
[16:55] <cybervvizz> the revenge of the cats
[16:55] <inkpen> right on your comp
[16:55] <SinthBaron> im buying a truckload of trojans, want some?
[16:55] <monoxyde> SinthBaron yes
[16:55] <Venus> and the kitty litter all over the room
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[16:55] <monoxyde> but i won't need them after PX
[16:55] <Jurian> Zetapal: type /quit then
[16:55] <monoxyde> i gotta help repopulate the earth
[16:55] <longint> :)
[16:55] <inkpen> lol
[16:56] <SinthBaron> although I am still having trouble procuring astroglide in 55 gallon drums
[16:56] <monoxyde> Jurian /exit is better
[16:56] <cybervvizz> -kick chat
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[16:56] <Zetapal> I came here to watch nut job nancy not see the new Jurian pilot episode -
[16:56] <HighLandrer> lol
[16:56] <SinthBaron> go play with yourself
[16:56] <Jurian> you are really getting annoying
[16:56] <inkpen> lol
[16:56] <Venus> idd
[16:56] <AGreenspan> Zatapal: Please keep in mind that her "misconduct" occured after ZT session
[16:56] <cybervvizz> he does not get, he just is
[16:56] <Jurian> in fact, I think Zetapal is leaving
[16:57] <S7L> And that she was repeatedly warned.
[16:57] <monoxyde> Jurian has klined me enough
[16:57] <monoxyde> heh
[16:57] <AD9> Only less than seven more months to find out if this is true or not. I think it wiser to see what else is offered to us by zetas through Nancy. I have read most of the zeta writings
[16:57] <SinthBaron> still misconduct
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[16:57] <Jurian> I would not ban or kick her during a zetatalk session
[16:57] <cybervvizz> ooo, he is a grey in his ident
[16:57] <Jurian> but this was just repulsive
[16:57] <monoxyde> i'm sad i missed it
[16:57] <inkpen> jurians telepathic
[16:57] <SinthBaron> what if they started talking about your momma?
[16:57] <Venus> i'll truly miss 'em
[16:57] <inkpen> lol
[16:58] <HighLandrer> will all that be in the log?
[16:58] <Torbj> Well....have to take i look at the skies......godnight all! I LOVE YOU!!!
[16:58] <[3j]> jurian just wanted the attention
[16:58] <HighLandrer> or wil it be 'editd?..lol
[16:58] <xiex> LOL
[16:58] <cybervvizz> this explains his axxxx likking
[16:58] <[3j]> ircops die for it !
[16:58] <AGreenspan> As stated, you acted with character. Do not be swayed by the less intelligent. Good night all.
[16:58] <SinthBaron> send me pix
[16:58] <Venus> i love you too tobj
[16:58] <HighLandrer> lol
[16:58] <Jurian> [3j]: I don't give a fuck about attention
[16:58] <HighLandrer> G Knighters All!   
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[16:59] <SinthBaron> where can I send nancee some money?
[16:59] <AD9> People are acting weird all over this planet, so are animals, I think it is just something to overlook and tolerate, and forgive.
[16:59] <PJ> jurian you find being gay repulsive?
[16:59] <Jurian> PJ: no, nancy obviously does tho
[16:59] <inkpen> sinth...send it to me
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[16:59] <PJ> they're people too...god loves them too you know
[16:59] <SinthBaron> howabout flexible?
[16:59] <[3j]> i was just kidding
[16:59] <Jurian> PJ: exactly why I kicked her out
[16:59] <splat> AD9: Forgiveness is fine..but do you allow the behaviour to continue unchecked when it's manifesting itself?
[16:59] <SinthBaron> i want to send her my 2 cents
[16:59] <[3j]> jurian did the right thing imho
[16:59] <inkpen> lol
[17:00] <Jurian> people who say gay or lesbians are less human, repulse me
[17:00] <S7L> but anyway, I must say these chats get worse by the week in some ways. I hope with Jurian that there'll be no more sex crap.
[17:00] <splat> 3j: I agree
[17:00] <[3j]> what kind of msg is she sending out when acting like that
[17:00] <AD9> Yes just like you would when children misbehave
[17:00] <S7L> for entire humanity's sake, or something.
[17:00] <SinthBaron> i can do much worse than sex ;-)
[17:00] <Jurian> and fucked if I care if its nancy or someone else
[17:00] <monoxyde> Jurian
[17:00] <splat> AD9: No, you don't allow the children to continue
[17:00] <Jurian> it is repulsive
[17:00] <monoxyde> didn't i say from the beginning NancyL is a crackho?
[17:00] <monoxyde> or you just now beginning to see?
[17:01] <splat> lol
[17:01] <SinthBaron> cracksexworker is more PC
[17:01] <Venus> lol
[17:01] <splat> I wouldn't go that far monoxyde
[17:01] <monoxyde> shutup splat
[17:01] <[3j]> i dont crack dealers go to where she lives
[17:01] <monoxyde> ROFL
[17:01] <monoxyde> they don't have a ship to PX
[17:01] <inkpen> im going to dress up like a woman and go to the amazon women and say i am a lesbian...it will work!
[17:01] <splat> why shutup?
[17:01] <AD9> splat you overlook their mistakes, and correct the child, but an adult you just give more room, sometimes.
[17:01] <HenryK> Tune in next week to "NancyL V Jurian", no holds barred.
[17:02] <PJ> and what about the rest of your behavior...listen to yourselves worried about some gay talk when you let people talk shit to her or about her behind her back ...abunch of weak sucks....poleshift or not
[17:02] <SinthBaron> will there be fine cuban cigars?
[17:02] <splat> AD9: And the examples that sets for others, not to mention the distress that may be caused by her victim?
[17:02] <splat> felt by
[17:02] <SinthBaron> i talk bad about everyone
[17:03] <inkpen> i will smoke 20 cigars if the ps happens...in consecutive order!
[17:03] <SinthBaron> make that a whole pallet full for me
[17:03] <PJ> well thats a reflection about yourself
[17:03] <inkpen> lol
[17:03] <SinthBaron> i know
[17:03] <[3j]> pj why do you and your kind always generalize everyone like that
[17:03] <Jurian> PJ: what about the rest of my behaviour??
[17:03] <AD9> splat this is the end of the world as we know it if this is true. and I think overlooking eccentric behaviour is the right course at times
[17:04] <splat> Ad9: And if you had been her victim, would you feel the same way?
[17:04] <SinthBaron> I hope i get laid
[17:04] <Venus> lol
[17:04] <SinthBaron> or ill have to go to the goats
[17:04] <Jurian> AD9: I overlooked it 2 weeks ago, hoping it'd be a one-time thing
[17:04] <cybervvizz> all lesbians, come to us :-)
[17:04] <Venus> yay
[17:04] <S7L> AD9: there is ample evidence that 1) the planet x has not been sighted, despite what Lieder claims; 2) that her many predictions about constant earthquakes and raising sea water levels and slowing down of rate of Earth rotation by 1 minute to christmas, or satellite failures, or whatever aren't going to happen
[17:04] <inkpen> if i knew the world would end fore sure at a specific date i'd go a little cocoo
[17:04] <SinthBaron> but they must like strap on didonix
[17:05] <AD9> I would have joked back to her at the level that was set. I saw it as not serious.
[17:05] <islander> all: the general tone of the session seems to be degrading over the last week as Jurian said
[17:05] <splat> AD9: It WAS serious
[17:05] <[3j]> inkpen but nancy is not worried about the end of the world since she is very much aware that she will survive afterwards
[17:05] <S7L> these are rather clear indications that: 1) she is not 100% accurate; 2) her doomsday predictions are not happening; 3) planet x either doesn't exist, or isn't giong to make it here by 2003
[17:05] <SinthBaron> nancy has been degrading, so why not follow suit?
[17:05] <cybervvizz> at least, the economic collaps will be ONE thing for sure
[17:05] <inkpen> perhaps not
[17:05] <Jurian> I REALLY hope next week we can have  GOOD session again..
[17:05] <AD9> Matter of opinion and perception. Not serious from my point of view.
[17:06] <cybervvizz> well it's confirmed by many sources
[17:06] <SinthBaron> 2 people?
[17:06] <S7L> AD9: the laws of physics are not matter of opinion
[17:06] <SinthBaron> ha!
[17:06] <inkpen> she has addmitted to haveing health issues... to survive one must be at their peak
[17:06] <S7L> her planet violates everything people know abuot gravity, optics, or quantum physics
[17:06] <[3j]> inkpen well she's stated it a few times, in very awful taste too, stuff like "where will you be after the shift certainly not safe like me!" or "dont come to my famr or my dog will eat you" etc
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[17:06] <AD9> the laws of physics keep changing because they are not the absolute True laws
[17:06] <cybervvizz> i say always, follow the Heavens, not aliens
[17:07] <inkpen> true
[17:07] <S7L> AD9: wrong, they are being *refined*
[17:07] <S7L> the early laws are still valid within their domain of applicability
[17:07] <SinthBaron> I will come to her farm and eat her dong, with a nice margarita and pinto beans
[17:07] <S7L> Nancy's planet violates *everything*
[17:07] <inkpen> lol
[17:07] <SinthBaron> nancy is a *violator*
[17:07] <splat> AD9: Again, you were not the victim this time, or the last time it occurred. The intent was to remove Sarah, and it succeeded. Personally, I would question why Nancy would want someone removed who asks questions she can't answer.
[17:07] <inkpen> not so
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[17:08] <S7L> just like newtonian mechanics still results from quantum physics (by setting h = 0) or general relativity (by approaching the low-speed low-energy limit)
[17:08] <inkpen> neutonia physics are flawed...scientist admitted this...this ties to gravity...
[17:08] <S7L> but Nancy's planet violates even Newton, and it emits light no other body in the universe emits, etc.
[17:08] <AD9> I didn't get my question answered either. And there is much that I disagree with the Zetas. But also we know very little on this little ball of dirt
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[17:08] <Jointwarrior> U guys SUCK!
[17:08] <inkpen> newtonian
[17:08] <SinthBaron> i think nancy is weetaughtdid
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[17:09] <SinthBaron> I suck, your right
[17:09] <SinthBaron> up for one?
[17:09] <[3j]> Jointwarrior??
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[17:09] <SinthBaron> heh
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[17:09] <Jurian> if only they could do that on sci.astro :)
[17:09] <inkpen> he got what he deserved
[17:10] <splat> AD9: Sarah has asked questions repetively that Nancy can't answer, as have other astronomers, and finally she has resorted to a shift and dodge tactic, all questions forgotten in the shock of her comments
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[17:10] <Mansur> This doesn´t make sence. I think you guys are wasting time with Nancy. Goodnigth to everybody          
[17:11] <SinthBaron> but its fun!
[17:11] <splat> isn't it tho??
[17:11] <Jurian> can't help but agree, after this kind of shit, again and again
[17:11] <inkpen> yea
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[17:11] <cybervvizz> bye obany
[17:11] <AD9> Believe me the implications of my question is very profound, and it wasn't answered either. But I hope this gets straighted out and everybody cools off. I have to go
[17:11] <inkpen> seeya
[17:11] <splat> g'night AD9
[17:11] <S7L> but this is kind of amusing/interesting.
[17:11] <islander> Despite all the arguments about science or our understanding, only one issue will resolve it. An appearance of Px an the ability to see it
[17:11] <AD9> I must watch the world series good night
[17:11] <cybervvitch> it's plain childish
[17:11] <S7L> I suppose I have no other reason any more for showing up.
[17:12] * cybervvizz gonna sleep
[17:12] <inkpen> cheers
[17:12] <Jurian> it was disgusting
[17:12] <S7L> islander: if it was there, we'd have seen it for years
[17:12] <Jurian> nothing more
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[17:12] <cybervvizz> jurian, it was a right action, don't worry
[17:12] <cybervvitch> mind if i join you, cybervvizz?
[17:12] <S7L> it's not there, at least where Nancy claims it is
[17:12] <splat> it was Jurian, and you did the right thing
[17:12] <cybervvizz> yes of course my love
[17:12] <cybervvizz> cyl
[17:12] <cybervvitch> bubye guys
[17:12] <S7L> why is it that we find tiny asteroids far outside pluto, but not one damn planet despite someone screams coordinates for it for 7 years
[17:12] <SinthBaron> i wonder if the sportsbook is taking bets on the rogue planet?
[17:12] <inkpen> it takes guts to do what you did J
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[17:12] <islander> How may of you are practicing backyar astronomy?
[17:12] <SinthBaron> ...raises hand...
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[17:13] <S7L> islander: I would, if I lived somewhere where astronomy hobby would pay off
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[17:13] <Albatross> Did I miss something?
[17:13] <S7L> too much light around here and no car basically rules the fun out for me
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[17:13] <Starstalker> My scope is too small, islander.
[17:13] <Jurian> islander: does sitting outside an looking at starts through binoculars count? :)
[17:13] <islander> moon is in my way right now, or fog
[17:13] <xiex> what about the ppl who were denied access in the observatories or the guys there refused to put in the coordinates
[17:13] <inkpen> alba...dont ask
[17:13] <obany> goodnight
[17:13] <obany> bye
[17:13] <inkpen> bye
[17:13] <SinthBaron> cuz there are more important things to look at then noise
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[17:14] <S7L> xiex: there are more natural explanations than trying to say it's a grand conspiracy where everyone is involved but nobody leaks
[17:14] <islander> magnification may not be as critcal as clear focus
[17:14] <S7L> and some cases where access was denied was because the guys showed up in the observatory, refused to tell where they were giong to look, until given permission to view
[17:14] <inkpen> the fog that hung around for a week has finnaly dissapated! i can look at stars again...beter get my binoculars!
[17:14] <S7L> the observatory staff got suspicious and showed them the door. But Nancy reports this as "observatory refusal"
[17:15] <islander> and do we focus on the stars or for an object that is much closer, like the distance field on a camera lens
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[17:16] <Albatross> S7L: do you know which observatory?
[17:17] <S7L> Yes, the one in New Zealand
[17:17] <S7L> I just forgot the name
[17:17] <S7L> but Nancy advertised it big time in the past
[17:17] <SinthBaron> no px still...
[17:17] <Albatross> They just "showed up"?  I thought observatories worked against reservations and programs?
[17:18] <S7L> Albatross: this observatory offers also some time between viewing sessions to public who might be interested in taking a look
[17:18] <SinthBaron> oh but the conspiracy wouldnt let them do that...
[17:18] <Albatross> Is the observatory private or public?
[17:18] <S7L> it's free, apparently, quite an offer. It's just that the offer is generous, and these guys refused to tell the staff just where exactly they were going to look unless being guaranteed that they were permitted to look, or something
[17:18] <S7L> public observatory, as far as I know.
[17:19] <S7L> I should dig the name up... it's not that long time ago, maybe 8 months ago that it occured
[17:19] <Albatross> Publically funded I mean.  Sounds like they just didn't want to deal with the ppl
[17:19] <tizza> so whots the problem with that?why do you have to say were your going to look?
[17:19] <S7L> tizza: because you can't point the scope yourself
[17:20] <Jurian> heh, obviously not :)
[17:20] <S7L> and because the staff might want to know if the object is viewable at all (above horizon, not too close to, say, Moon, or anything)
[17:20] <tizza> so you give them when you get there??
[17:20] <S7L> Well, you basically tell "here's the coords" and they shrug, okay.
[17:21] <Albatross> Or else there's a few grad students running the scope and they shrug and say "Go away"
[17:21] <S7L> only they wouldn't give the coordinates until granted permission to view, at which point the gears in the astronomers' heads probably said "some nutcases".
[17:21] <Jurian> :)
[17:21] <Albatross> lol
[17:21] <inkpen> lol
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[17:21] <tizza> so whot?
[17:22] <tizza> i shouldnt have to tell until granted i would have thought
[17:22] <Jurian> wtf?
[17:22] <S7L> you have to understand that the viewing is not *guaranteed*.
[17:22] <Jurian> it is a privilege to look, not a right
[17:22] <S7L> the idea is that they probably have more than their spare of extra requests per night, and they have the schedule them
[17:22] <tizza> dont you "book" a sesh?
[17:23] <S7L> no, they were in there for a free peek during actual sessions
[17:23] <Jurian> tizza: if you book one, then its obviously different
[17:23] <inkpen> (o)
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[17:23] <tizza> no i dont....im asking....to find out whot the drill is so as to make my own conclusion :)
[17:23] <Jurian> just squeezing between sessions, and making funny demands, is a rather valid reason for the staff to refuse access to the scope
[17:24] <SinthBaron> but if you dont find anything and report to nancy, then she will claim that they mispointed the telescope to mislead you with the big conspiracy
[17:24] <Clipper> Have fun guys. Gotta go. See ya's the next time I can.
[17:24] <Jurian> "Hi, I'm not gonna pay, and I wont tell you where I wanna look at, unless you promise I can"
[17:24] <tizza> yesyes yes follow all that
[17:24] * S7L shrugs. Nancy wins every way, as long as people are willing to listen to anything from her, uncritically
[17:24] <Jurian> Clipper: heh, cya next time :)
[17:24] <inkpen> seeya
[17:25] <longint> S7L: that's not true. not uncritically.
[17:25] <tizza> ah ok.....i was assuming you would A book B pay C view
[17:25] <S7L> longint: well people believe they are critical but in truth they grant her enormous latitude
[17:25] <S7L> tizza: if you do that then they obviously wouldn't care
[17:25] <Jurian> even if you book tho, the staff still needs to point the scope :p
[17:25] <tizza> just as these pplz in Q should have i would have thought
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[17:26] <Jurian> and they most likely ask where you wanna look at, when you book time
[17:26] <tizza> how long to point a scope of that size?
[17:26] <Jurian> I think, anyway :)
[17:26] <inkpen> SMOKE NEED!
[17:26] <longint> but that lattitude only, which was created only by her own efforts.
[17:26] <inkpen> BRB
[17:26] <Jurian> dunno, but they're expensive bastards, so obviously they wont let anyone mess with them
[17:26] <S7L> tizza: it probably takes several minutes, because it takes time to orient it precisely towards the given coordinates
[17:27] <S7L> the general area is found with low magnification, then you switch to higher, again reorient, switch to higher, etc. I think, unless you have computer-guided mount.
[17:27] <S7L> with a computer-guided one, you just input the coords and the scope turns to precisely correct direction in a minute
[17:27] <tizza> yes but if it only takes...say 5 mins to rotate the scope then it wouldnt really matter that much about not knowing viewing location till last minute
[17:27] <tizza> one minute! well there ya go
[17:28] <S7L> I'm not sure what kind of scopes the big observatories have, I guess the older have the manually pointable ones mostly. But I am fairly sure these high-tech scopes also exist
[17:28] <SinthBaron> so, seriously, who is preparing for x? honestly...
[17:29] <S7L> nowadays astronomy in particular becomes almost computerised work, you just remotely request pictures from a given region, they're scheduled and pictures are taken when your request comes from the queue
[17:29] <S7L> then you get the unprocessed images
[17:29] <tizza> this is whot steveH is doing?
[17:29] <S7L> yes, sort of.
[17:30] <tizza> shouldnt there be more than him doing this?
[17:30] <SinthBaron> i guess noone is then...
[17:30] * S7L shrugs. I consider the images from december 2001 already conclusive in proving that PX is not coming
[17:30] <tizza> possibly.......
[17:31] <islander> what is the opinion of those here of diffusion in the Px atmosphere eg dust making it difficult to spot
[17:32] <S7L> islander: it's just nancyspeak for trying to explain why it can't be seen
[17:32] <S7L> just like her red light bending stuff, which now allows her to point to any random noise spot and claim it as planet x despite it doesn't look like astronomical object
[17:32] <tizza> i think dust would matter bugger all
[17:32] <S7L> (ie. it should have a point-spread profile and appear consistently on all frames)
[17:33] <islander> the continuing theme of mining gold by the inhabitants to may a reflective shield?
[17:33] <tizza> the light emitting should be the thing to be seen and pinpointed
[17:33] <islander> how well would gold dust reflect light?
[17:34] <SinthBaron> gimme some gold
[17:34] <S7L> islander: consider that humanity has no trouble spotting asteroids smaller than pluto from distances farther away than pluto, and we're supposedly not being able to spot an object which is claimed to be a small sun
[17:34] <S7L> at a similar distance
[17:34] <S7L> something's not right in this picture
[17:34] <Jurian> S7L: its cloaked! :p
[17:34] <tizza> whot is it with the gold dust theory anyway?
[17:35] <S7L> and since nancy never heard about radio sources, she has failed to realize one more nail in the coffin of her planet x, the fact that such planet x would be a very bright source of radio emissions
[17:35] <Jurian> hrm, this DST stuff is annoying, too many clocks to change
[17:35] <S7L> it would be seen immediately, be it invisible in visible or infrared
[17:35] <Jurian> stupid devices needa start using NTP to auto-set the time
[17:35] <S7L> even the sun's dead twin at her distance would be extremely detectable in radioastronomy
[17:35] <pauli259> good point S7L
[17:35] <S7L> tizza: no idea, I guess someone else cooked it up and nancy adapted it
[17:35] <tizza> which is were S7l?
[17:35] <islander> S7L: maybe but I like to keep an open eye, as do you or you wouldn't be here
[17:36] <S7L> islander: that's true. I *am* trying to keep an open eye, you never know.
[17:36] <S7L> tizza: I don't know, but it sounds like an idea I'd have heard before
[17:36] <S7L> so it must have been circulating around
[17:36] <islander> if nothing else I'm back into astronomy
[17:37] <tizza> na the  twin sun bit...
[17:37] <S7L> anyway I'm feeling pretty dizzy, so it's my bedtime I guess.
[17:38] <S7L> It was a nice to have a brief chat with you folks. May the Planet X be with you!
[17:38] <tizza> ah...soz thought you were saying there definatly was one
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[17:38] <tizza> yeh im off too :) cya all
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[17:38] <islander> c all next week
[17:38] <Jurian> I'm gonna go sleep as well
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[17:39] <Jurian> lets hope next weeks' session goes better :)
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[17:40] <SinthBaron> hahahaha
[17:40] <SinthBaron> sure it will...
[17:40] <SinthBaron> better hope i forget
[17:40] <SinthBaron> ;-
[17:40] <SinthBaron> )
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[17:51] <inkpen> poo on a shoe
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[17:52] <Mb_> yo
[17:52] <inkpen> whats happenig?
[17:53] <Mb_> Interest chat earlier.
[17:53] <inkpen> ya that was harsh
[17:53] <inkpen> nancy got the boot
[17:53] <Mb_> Think she deserved it?
[17:54] <inkpen> i think it was silly that she kept the argument going...feeding the fire
[17:54] <inkpen> i dought she will in the future
[17:55] <inkpen> something wierd happened yesterday...
[17:56] <inkpen> i was checking out #poleshiftdiscussion and as soon as i got there i was perm banned by queenvee... didnt even have a chance to say nothing
[17:57] <Mb_> Who's queenvee?
[17:57] <inkpen> aka queen-away
[17:57] <inkpen> try going there...see if it happens to you
[17:58] <Mb_> brb
[17:59] <Mb_> I was told to leave.
[17:59] <inkpen> was it a bot or a person?
[18:00] <Mb_> PJ
[18:00] <inkpen> thats wierd...whats up with that?
[18:01] <Mb_> I have no clue.  You know PJ?
[18:01] <inkpen> no but i'll ask him now in a pvt. here
[18:02] <inkpen> lets see if he responds
[18:02] <inkpen> smells like ellitism to me
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[18:03] <Mb_> Yeah, looks like the riff-raff are no longer welcome.
[18:03] <inkpen> lol
[18:03] <inkpen> some people...
[18:04] <Mb_> There were 6 in poleshift.  Pretty small elite.
[18:05] <inkpen> you werent banned though were you?
[18:06] <Mb_> No.  I left when told to.
[18:07] <inkpen> a quote frome PJ:inkpen: unlike #zetatalk it is by invitation only for serious people thats why
[18:08] <inkpen> oh well what can you do... i guess that means we arent serios...lol
[18:08] <Mb_> They can have their own little room.
[18:08] <Mb_> ;-)
[18:09] <inkpen> yup
[18:09] <Mb_> Should be interesting to watch posts to sci.astro.
[18:09] <inkpen> yes...after this feasco today most interesting
[18:11] <Mb_> I'm going to scoot.  Bye inkpen.
[18:11] <inkpen> seeya
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[18:19] <HighLandrer> Last summer I watched a Montel Williams show rerun with a noted California psychic Sylvia Brown as the guest. It was taped last January. In the midst of giving predictions for 1997, she mentioned that 2000 AD actually took place six years ago (1991?). Therefore:
[18:20] <HighLandrer> woder what sitchin would say about this
[18:20] <HighLandrer> wonder
[18:20] <inkpen> he would say...malarky
[18:20] <HighLandrer> true  lol
[18:20] <HighLandrer> although Sylvia is not too shabby
[18:20] <inkpen> lol
[18:20] <HighLandrer> for her predictions
[18:20] <inkpen> pretty desolate here
[18:21] <HighLandrer> yah
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[18:21] <Albatross> okay, so what happened that was so ghastly, I've had to jump in and out
[18:21] <HighLandrer> the session was all right ..cept near the end...back to lesbian talk again...what is with that???
[18:21] <inkpen> nancy got the boot
[18:21] <HighLandrer> by jurian
[18:22] <Albatross> Thot she got that out of her system a cupl wks ago
[18:22] <inkpen> apparently not...i can understand J frustration
[18:22] <Albatross> Was she going after silk again?
[18:22] <inkpen> yup
[18:23] <HighLandrer> you know...I was thinking...for each negative there has to be a coresponding positive...and to date I haven't seen much 'positive' anywhere in the zetatalk...generally illicit's the negative emotions...
[18:23] <HighLandrer> just an observation^^
[18:23] <HighLandrer> :o)
[18:23] <inkpen> good point
[18:23] <HighLandrer> read somewhere that negative emotions are like a foodstuff...hmmm
[18:23] <Albatross> Neg environment yields neg response, eh?
[18:24] <inkpen> nancy loosing her temper doesnt exactly add to her credibility
[18:24] <HighLandrer> nope
[18:24] <HighLandrer> imagine telling someone abut the site..or chat...they go in and see that..lol..
[18:24] <HighLandrer> kinda feels like egg on face in so far as credabuility
[18:25] <Albatross> seems it just fuels the fires of detractors
[18:25] <HighLandrer> I was thinking , it might be cool to get nancy /zeta's on the Montell Williams show...but she didn't recognise him???
[18:25] <inkpen> i wounder... this apparently all started w/ IMHO...then continued more so
[18:26] <Albatross> Prob not wise to get her on montel with silk and IMO, will be like springer...
[18:26] <inkpen> montell would laugh
[18:26] <HighLandrer> or get nancy and sylvia brown together...:o)
[18:26] <inkpen> holy shit
[18:26] <HighLandrer> on the montell show
[18:27] <HighLandrer> no in person on t I mean Albatross
[18:27] <Albatross> Nothing entertains like thrown chairs and hot tempers...
[18:27] <HighLandrer> see what sylvia has to say about zeta's...maybee they can have a chat direct?
[18:28] <HighLandrer> Last summer I watched a Montel Williams show rerun with a noted California psychic Sylvia Brown as the guest. It was taped last January. In the midst of giving predictions for 1997, she mentioned that 2000 AD actually took place six years ago (1991?). Therefore:
[18:28] <HighLandrer> sorry thats hard to read
[18:28] <HighLandrer> but according to sylva 2003 is really 2012
[18:28] <Albatross> how did they get mixed up?
[18:29] <HighLandrer> not sure...that^ was on zeta site..or tt
[18:29] <HighLandrer> so what does nancydoo the rest of the week?
[18:30] <HighLandrer> do^
[18:30] <Albatross> Repose with the Zeta's?
[18:30] <inkpen> 2012 is maya date
[18:30] <HighLandrer> which corresponds to 2003
[18:31] <inkpen> let me see...ZT:the world will end in 12 minuets...if not then PARTY YOUR ASS OFF
[18:31] <HighLandrer> lol
[18:31] <Albatross> Isn't 2012 some sort of 'special' date?
[18:31] <HighLandrer> either way you better party just in case :o)
[18:31] <HighLandrer> yah the calender ends
[18:31] <HighLandrer> mayan^
[18:31] <inkpen> only if it doesnt happen i will
[18:31] <HighLandrer> I hear you ink
[18:32] <inkpen> dont hant a hungover to start a new world
[18:32] <HighLandrer> might be your last
[18:32] <HighLandrer> lol
[18:32] <inkpen> i'll keep a stash just in case
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[18:33] <Albatross> Isn't the mayan calendar a circular one?  Maybe they just didn't bother with the next track...
[18:33] <HighLandrer> according to sylvia...she has many predicts well beyond 2050...
[18:33] <Albatross> Cayce went way into 2000
[18:33] <HighLandrer> let me see if I can find them...brb
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[18:35] <Albatross> douglas adams had a good idea, build a restaurant at the end, and back it up a couple hours over and over again...
[18:35] <inkpen> lol yea
[18:35] <Albatross> no dishes to clean up either...
[18:36] <inkpen> circular calander simmalar to summarian ...circle represents a full cycle
[18:37] <inkpen> summarian time definition for one cycle is 3600 years...go fig
[18:37] <Albatross> then must have an end point... not a good design unless you have a lot of circular stuff lying around
[18:37] <Albatross> sounds zen.  The fullness of a circle.
[18:38] <inkpen> circle in infanite no end unlike linear calenders...time to move on to a new cyle
[18:38] <inkpen> breasts are circular
[18:38] <Albatross> circles are 2d cuts at a sphere
[18:38] <Albatross> Some are, some droop...
[18:39] <inkpen> more dimensions to the circle in a sphere
[18:39] <Albatross> yup!
[18:39] <inkpen> have you ever heard of the mathmatical 7 dimensional array?
[18:39] <Albatross> regarding....
[18:40] <inkpen> well in mathmatics...but could have relavence to our universe
[18:41] <Albatross> I thot astrophysics guys were using multidim arrays to 'search' for superstrings...
[18:41] <Albatross> seven dimensions in virtual space is easy...
[18:41] <inkpen> there are simmalarities... science adhears to math
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[18:41] <dwander> you can use as many math dimentions as you feel a need for...relating them back to the real world is the trick...
[18:42] <Albatross> agreed, hard to visualize outside of virtual...
[18:42] <inkpen> but i'm thinking graphical arrays
[18:43] <Albatross> Something like the 's' transform but to a higher degree?
[18:43] <Albatross> I think they call them transcendant functions... like that sort of?
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[18:44] <dwander> there are all sorts of transforms...most valid only in specific cases...
[18:44] <inkpen> by the 7th you have calculated all possibilities all sequences all alternet poss. allong w/ there linear sequences and all possibilities that could arrise from all thoes possibilities att all charted "times"
[18:44] <Albatross> so a transform of a transform of a transform (...)?
[18:45] <inkpen> imaginge a computer chip doing this
[18:46] <Albatross> pentium?
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[18:46] <Albatross> Like that legend of the monks saying all the names of God which triggers the end...
[18:46] <inkpen>  a jap. fellow actualy did this but the chip lasts for well less than a sec befor burning out...what processing power could arrise from this
[18:47] <Albatross> sounds like poor chip design...
[18:47] <inkpen> we dont have the tech to support this concept fully yet
[18:47] <dwander> it's not the tech, it's the programing
[18:48] <Albatross> I've never seen software break hardware...  
[18:48] <dwander> that's what you just said happened, didn't you?
[18:48] <Albatross> just may not know how to compute such a thing sensibly
[18:49] <Albatross> If a chip croaks out doing calcs, it aint the calcs, its a malfunction of the chip (die problems, power dissipation, etc)
[18:49] <dwander> all such computations are done via programed steps, not chip power
[18:50] <inkpen> the hardware broke the hardware... all we have is on prong chip switching on/off...this chip had more than that... on/ off relates to linear processing or 1d... not 7d... very fast working chip...it fried
[18:50] <Albatross> if the chip runs too hot, it'll burn up.  heat generated by switching gates on and off
[18:51] <Albatross> If designer didn't pay attention to current limits and such, it'll burn up no matter what its doing
[18:51] <dwander> so do it slower...program in rests...
[18:51] <inkpen> yes...now imagine that to the 7th power
[18:51] <inkpen> ok analagy i guess
[18:52] <Albatross> The chip doesn't see the job size, all it does is execute individual machine code
[18:52] <dwander> yep, and with good chip design, it should never burn out
[18:52] <Albatross> yep
[18:53] <inkpen> sure...software perform the cool stuff but you need hardware to support it
[18:53] <Albatross> But, as they say, garbage in, garbage out.  Programmers have big challenges...! :^)
[18:53] <inkpen> yes
[18:53] <dwander> but a programer can know the highest heat-generating functions, and avoid over-use too
[18:54] <Albatross> Ah, but then you're saying that the chip is flawed, and you 'shouldn't' do thus and such for that reason... right?
[18:54] <dwander> yep
[18:54] <inkpen> got to go now and make some food...seeya
[18:54] <Albatross> cya
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[18:55] <HighLandrer> so has there been any more 'concrete' photo's of Px yet?..or still...an 'element of doubt'?
[18:55] <Albatross> www.fnal.gov has an astrophysics group doing multidimensional analysis for superstrings
[18:56] <Albatross> you mean it's not a proven fact?
[18:56] <dwander> hehe...there's no doubt yet...if something does start showing, then is time for doubt...:)
[18:56] <HighLandrer> lol
[18:57] <Albatross> Someone posted that it was a proven fact and that there was a trajectory...
[18:57] <HighLandrer> of Px?
[18:57] <HighLandrer> or strings?
[18:58] <dwander> last I heard, Px seemed to obey only those laws of physics that humanity has never heard of...:)
[18:58] <Albatross> yep, Px.  J something or another
[18:58] <HighLandrer> ok.. :o)
[18:58] <HighLandrer> well humans have not discovered all the animals on earth...soooo stands to reason there might be a 'few' laws not encountered yet'..lol
[18:59] <Albatross> Can I unpack my landrover?
[18:59] <HighLandrer> better bry it!!  lol]
[18:59] <HighLandrer> bury^
[18:59] <dwander> maybe it will teleport into visible position 7 weeks before passage, so it can be seen as Nancy says...:)
[18:59] <Albatross> will the end come in the color red, and later white?
[19:00] <HighLandrer> or a made in usa holographic projection??? could be arranged for the population..hmmmm :o)
[19:00] <dwander> you mean like Iraqui war news??  :)
[19:00] <HighLandrer> I mean like a hologram...could people on the street tell the difference..or would thay all 'see' Px...
[19:01] <Albatross> or multiple versions
[19:01] <Albatross> intermingled with 'noise'
[19:03] <Albatross> did she discuss the sniper further?
[19:03] <HighLandrer> yes a bit
[19:03] <Albatross> is he still a long haird mexican?
[19:03] <HighLandrer> lol.she did not say dat..lol
[19:03] <Albatross> maybe that was his white persona
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[19:04] <Jenkins3d> Did nancy say he was a mexican?
[19:04] <Albatross> sorry I missed the fun....
[19:04] <HighLandrer> well disgruntled Gulf War Vet...with his so called message squashed...as if ANY reaso justifies what the snipers did..
[19:04] <Jenkins3d> before...
[19:04] <HighLandrer> no she didn't.. :o)
[19:05] <Albatross> she said that?
[19:05] <HighLandrer> but lots to say about that plane that went down
[19:05] <HighLandrer> with the senator
[19:06] <dwander> someone should have told them that only politicians were 'in season' in the DC area...
[19:06] <HighLandrer> kenedy was sposed to be on that plane too...
[19:06] <HighLandrer> a warning?>
[19:06] <Albatross> NASA has long arms...
[19:07] <HighLandrer> and a bomb on the plane??
[19:07] <HighLandrer> in landing gear
[19:07] <Albatross> Death ray out of montauk
[19:07] <HighLandrer> that should be easy to find evidence of?
[19:07] <HighLandrer> lol Albatross
[19:08] <dwander> I thought the death ray was out of HAARP...
[19:08] <HighLandrer> I have a list of all the peeps who 'died'...during clinton termmm absolutely scary!!
[19:08] <Albatross> either place, just as terrifying.
[19:09] <dwander> just as many dying now under Bush...
[19:09] <dwander> maybe more...
[19:09] <Albatross> I remember during nixon administration, everyone who died was part of the great evil plan...
[19:09] <HighLandrer> I wonder why no inbtervention with the senator who was VERY STO according to the Zeta's
[19:09] <dwander> no one there to intervene
[19:10] <Albatross> Thot they were omniscent
[19:10] <HighLandrer> and this senator would have been crucial regarding congressional elections..
[19:10] <HighLandrer> and he was 'consulted'...and agreed to die...hmmm...
[19:11] <Albatross> say what?
[19:11] <HighLandrer> yup
[19:11] <HighLandrer> thats what the Zt's said morte or less
[19:11] <HighLandrer> more^
[19:11] <Albatross> 'morte', freudian slip?
[19:11] <HighLandrer> lol
[19:11] <HighLandrer> yup
[19:11] <dwander> morte is more apt there anyway...:)
[19:11] <HighLandrer> lol
[19:11] <Albatross> So when the Zeta's ask, always say "wanna live"
[19:12] <dwander> just ask the zetas to die in your place
[19:12] <Albatross> lol
[19:12] <Albatross> sorta hard to swallow...
[19:12] <HighLandrer> yah
[19:13] <dwander> not compared to PX
[19:13] <HighLandrer> dodged my question why no intervention...
[19:13] <Jenkins3d> I asked the zetas to fix my mp3 player, NOTHING happend :(
[19:13] <HighLandrer> lol..
[19:13] <Albatross> Wonder how they do with lost socks...
[19:13] <HighLandrer> yah right that is sts site Jenkins..lol
[19:13] <dwander> they fixed it...they know silence is golden...:)
[19:14] <HighLandrer> I wonder if the sts have a website too..lol...sorta to 'balance thinbgs?..lol
[19:14] <Albatross> never trusted ifr flight in small planes...
[19:14] <dwander> there you go...channel yourself a STS site...for profit, of course...:)
[19:14] <Jenkins3d> Some people that say they talk to the Zetas say Nancy is talking to the brown, bad zetas
[19:15] <Jenkins3d> who might be sts
[19:15] <HighLandrer> and they lie...
[19:15] <Albatross> brown dwarf, brown swirling moons, brown zeta's.  looks like a match...
[19:15] <dwander> Nancy is just being messed with, of course
[19:15] <HighLandrer> and the bigger the lie...the more that fall into it..
[19:16] <Albatross> surely no one would tell a lie <wink-wink>
[19:16] <HighLandrer> I wonder if so many people 'beleieve' in grey's...that the collection of 'thought energy' about 'them'...actually opens doors for them into this reality...
[19:17] <Albatross> read up on meme's
[19:17] <dwander> only little doors, so far...
[19:17] <HighLandrer> bad copgood cop...sts sto..hmm
[19:18] <Albatross> parasitic thought creations.  Like urban legends, have a life of their own...
[19:18] <HighLandrer> yup...not to mention everything on this earth bega first as a 'thought'..:o)
[19:19] <dwander> more like a nightmare...
[19:19] <Albatross> dreamed of being a doctor, and then he wuz one?
[19:19] <HighLandrer> the idea that thoughts contain a form of electro magnetic energy....and like attracts like..
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[19:20] <HighLandrer> and form over the illusion of 'time' to manifest into this holographic reality we call 'home'..lol
[19:20] <Albatross> shared fantasy to make sense of the sensory inputs...
[19:21] <HighLandrer> is a fantasy truth?>
[19:21] <HighLandrer> what is truth?
[19:21] <Albatross> what you make of it...
[19:21] <HighLandrer> All..is....True? :o)
[19:21] <HighLandrer> is time an illusion?
[19:21] <HighLandrer> when did itstart?
[19:21] <Albatross> individual realms of reality have differing truth's.
[19:22] <HighLandrer> when does it end?
[19:22] <Albatross> Getting very Zen here....
[19:22] <HighLandrer> so we all pretend it exists in infinity...an islad...of 'time'..an illusion of course..lol
[19:22] <HighLandrer> island^
[19:22] <Albatross> one that moves at different meter's
[19:22] <HighLandrer> same with space.
[19:22] <HighLandrer> where does space end?
[19:23] <Albatross> how do you know you're even here?
[19:23] <HighLandrer> so we agree to 'pretend it exists'...
[19:23] <HighLandrer> I speak..there fore I am...I think..lol
[19:23] <HighLandrer> moody bles^
[19:23] <HighLandrer> ?
[19:23] <HighLandrer> blues^
[19:23] <Albatross> we're taught to 'pretend it exists' cause we have no alternatives at that age...
[19:23] <Albatross> favrit band
[19:24] <Albatross> classic problem in dealing with psychotic patients... how to get their reality back in line with 'agreed upon' reality
[19:25] <Albatross> once the subscription is stopped, tough to get it started again...:)
[19:27] <Albatross> zen student: master, help me control my mind.  master: very well, produce it.  :student: I can't.  Master: then it is controlled...
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[19:40] <Mb_> Yo
[19:42] <Mb_> Anybody talking?
[19:55] <Jenkins3d> We are
[19:58] <Mb_> and>
[19:58] <Jenkins3d> nothing
[19:59] <Jenkins3d> these chats used to be quite active
[19:59] <Mb_> Really?
[19:59] <Jenkins3d> yup
[19:59] <Mb_> What happened?
[19:59] <pauli259> till they started booting the host
[20:00] <Jenkins3d> But with no picture of PX when nancy said there would be one made most people change their mind about these things
[20:00] <Jenkins3d> and nancys excuse for the no px was bad...very bad
[20:01] <Mb_> What did she say?
[20:02] <Jenkins3d> Um, I dont really remember...
[20:02] <Jenkins3d> something about it being in a few diffrent places
[20:03] <pauli259> http://www.midbc.com/personal/jwd/Composite%20of%20Planet%20XFrame1Source1.htm
[20:03] <Mb_> I've seen that page pauli.
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[20:04] <Jenkins3d> I do think there have been pole shifts in the past
[20:04] <Mb_> Didn't want to talk about it I guess.
[20:04] <Jenkins3d> and Nancy and been strangly accurate about a few things
[20:05] <Jenkins3d> but I think 2003 is not the year
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[20:30] * Topic is 'during the answers the channel will be on moderation, at follow up questions off moderation : discussion can take place in #Troubled_Times'
[20:30] * Set by Jurian on Sat Oct 26 14:58:38
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[21:29] <agentY> k
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[21:50] <agentY> yo
[21:50] <agentY> ok
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[21:51] <Mb> Hi aY
[21:52] <agentY> hi
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[21:52] <sirgrim> hi
[21:52] <agentY> oy
[21:54] <Mb> Oops!  just got banned from poleshift.
[21:55] <Mb> How rude.
[21:55] <PJ> not really
[21:56] <QueenVee> Mb: i thought you liked people being banned
[21:56] <QueenVee> <Mb_> Good work Jurian.  I applaud you!
[21:57] <agentY> hehehe
[21:57] <Mb> Touche, Queen.  I guess I deserved that.  I'm glad someone is paying attention to everything I say.
[21:58] <agentY> mb i send it to the fbi each weekend.
[21:58] <Mb> And?
[22:00] <Mb> I just think that maybe it's time for you folks to find something else to believe in.
[22:00] <agentY> who was that sarah chick?
[22:00] <agentY> #poleshift??
[22:01] <Mb> I guess you could call Sarah an infidel.
[22:03] <agentY> thought it was funny
[22:03] <agentY> interesting kinky sex talk
[22:04] <Mb> It was a hoot!  I'm glad I was there.
[22:04] <agentY> hoot hoot
[22:05] <agentY> what other channels r there for px?????
[22:06] <agentY> hell
[22:06] <agentY> o
[22:06] <agentY> hihihi
[22:06] <Mb> You mean ones that won't ban you for saying what you think?
[22:07] [agentY:#zetatalk PING]
[22:08] <agentY> hi
[22:08] <Mb> Hi aY
[22:09] <agentY> where the hell u been
[22:09] <agentY> other network??
[22:09] <Mb> been here the whole time.  You?
[22:09] <agentY> bahh
[22:10] <agentY> more action at a cemetary than here.
[22:11] <Mb> was wathing "Dead Alive" on the tube.  True story, I hear.
[22:12] <Mb> lot's of sulking in here, i guess.
[22:13] <Mb> tough night for zetatalk
[22:13] <agentY> ok
[22:13] <agentY> hehe yeah
[22:13] <agentY> person who started zetatalk banned
[22:14] <Mb> yeah.  I suppose she deserved it.
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[22:15] <Mb> do you think that this session will appear on the web site?
[22:15] <agentY> naw, just put her on ignore.
[22:15] <agentY> i would suppose so
[22:15] <agentY> those comments were the only thing she did that was normal i thought.
[22:15] <agentY> sex comments u know
[22:15] <agentY> hehehe
[22:16] <sirgrim> anyone got a log?
[22:17] <agentY> mb does
[22:17] <Mb> I'll bet Jurian has one.
[22:18] <Mb> Me?  No, I wish! ;-)
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[22:21] <agentY> 19:23] *** Jurian sets mode: -o+b NancyL *!*lieder@*.baraboo.com
[22:21] <agentY> [19:23] *** NancyL was kicked by Jurian (cya next week, loose the attitude problem)
[22:22] <Mb> Baraboo, huh?  That's where they have the Circus Museum, I believe.
[22:23] <agentY> oh
[22:23] <agentY> how would u know that?
[22:23] <agentY> freak.
[22:23] <agentY> j.k
[22:24] <agentY> .
[22:24] <agentY> u there
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[22:27] <Mb> We're running low on live bodies here.
[22:28] <agentY> yes
[22:28] <agentY> la all to sciastro??
[22:28] <agentY> arguments theretoo??
[22:29] <agentY> inever been tos   to sciastro or to zeta.com
[22:29] <Mb> sci.astro if fun.
[22:29] <Mb> if=is
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