From: "enterpriseuk2002" <brian_gillbanks@l...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 12:50 pm
Subject: Zeta's 100% accuracy #1
First off I've been following Zeta IRC with great interest, (Hi Howmo
great session). Especially the arguments concerning Sci-astro
debunking and invasion of the chat group. I would therefore for the
benefit of those coming from the TT-groups like to point out that it
was Nancy who first invaded Sci-astro with her attempts to force
opinion on the invisible twelfth planet. Similarly disrupting TT-
Watch with her incessant rating's updating a totally uninterested
membership on the subject.
She continually disrupt the science groups with her own particular
brand of hit and run tactics, never answering even the few serious
questions that do pop up then acts all innocent when the likes of IMO
and Howmo invade her pathetic sideshow on the IRC, simply to try and
get answers from the only public source that she frequents. She
should be grateful that those on sci-astro are more tolerant than her
own jack boot disciples on TT. She'd have been banned a long time ago
had the same rules applied, but then that would simply have fuelled
her conspiracy argument.
I'd also now like to show the reality of what is being touted as that
wondrous Zeta accuracy. (For those who have seen it my apologies. For
those already tired of it, again my apologies. For anyone interested
bare with me there's a lot.)
http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword232.htm
2001 Predictions:
"In January, 2001 ZetaTalk stated their 2001 Predictions, and by
June, 2001 a close match was noted:
An overall phrase to describe 2001 will be that things are getting
shaky. Earthquakes increasing in frequency and intensity, and storm
damage continues so that insurance companies will begin to falter and
fail if not bolstered by government intervention. The weather is
becoming more erratic so that any attempt to pretend that crop
shortages are not occurring,worldwide, is no longer possible. Food
prices will rise or there will be shortages in the stores, unless
governments step in with price freezes and forced disbursal of goods
to the populace. Starvation, already occurring in many countries,
will increase, but the starving will have less of a voice as time
goes on, and be increasingly ignored."
Since 2001 there has been no substantial increase in Earthquake
magnitude or frequency. Admittedly the weather is shaky, but there
are no signs of shortages in most of the civilized world. Prices have
not increased and the same counties find themselves as usual in
trouble. Hardly anything out of the ordinary.
A prediction is defined in the English Oxford dictionary as a
prophesy: the foretelling of future events. Unfortunately the
statements made by the Zeta's are on the whole not new, either that
or have simply not actually come to fruition. Indeed at its basic the
Zeta's themselves are not an original concept. Barney and Betty Hill
can hold claim to that. Nancy's efforts simply another attempt to
jump on their bandwagon. Even the STO/STS belief system is based on a
much older religion with roots in concepts as diverse as Star Wars
etc.
AIDS:
"Prior to July, 1995 Zetatalk stated that the Origin of AIDS, while
deliberately Perpetrated, was through the ingestion of infected blood
due to dietary customs in Africa, not immunization. On February 5,
1999, headline news announced that the origin of HIV was from chimps
hunted for food."
Thorough research shows that they knew about AIDS as far back as the
1950's. Although its origins were from the African Continent it
didn't become headline news until it reached the West in later years.
But research had obviously been on going from its discovery back
then. (It doesn't take a genius to read back issues of medical
journals.)
Albinos:
"In June, 1996 ZetaTalk stated that albinos such as the White Buffalo
would be on the increase. There have been increasing reports of such
occurences in wildlife, starting in China, then Australia and North
America."
If true where are these increasing freaks of nature? Where are the
startling figures showing irrefutable proof of this terrific
increase. Any good natural history expert will tell you that albinos
are rare but no longer considered outstanding. In fact they happen
all the time among the myriads of varying species on the planet. The
numbers have certainly not increased dramatically over recent years,
only natural habitat invasion and the increase in reporting these
discoveries has.
Animal Illness:
"On Mar 15, 1999 ZetaTalk stated in the 1999 Predictions increased
illness would be experienced in animal populations as the 12th Planet
approached. On Jan 20, 2000 it was reported that infectious diseases
were on the increase worldwide among wildlife."
Same as before. Research has been going on for years. Well before
1999, certainly in Europe, where most of the stock diseases
originated, which I might add were caused and carried by man. Yet
there's not one shred of evidence supporting any extrastellar
influence. (But then I've noticed most of the evidence seems to be US
based and not a good reflection of the world at large.)
Area 51:
"On August, 1995 ZetaTalk stated that space ships sighted at Area 51
had been loaned to the military, but the secrets of how they operated
withheld from the military, and in September, 1995 that Bob Lazar was
telling a true tale in this regard. Documented interviews with Bob
Lazar, below, support these statements."
Guess this one speaks for itself and from a guy that has no
scientific background, (conveniently deleted by some government
conspiracy), so confused that he has difficulty remembering which
years he spent at whatever university. Plus there's not one shred of
proof to support anything he has ever said.
Assassinations:
"In April, 1996 ZetaTalk stated that Silencing Methods included
killing Commerce Secretary Ron Brown and disguising the assassination
in a plane crash; in December, 1997, the Drudge Report stated that on
autopsy, Ron Brown was found to have been killed by a bullet to the
head, and this fact covered up, and the Conspiracy Archive states the
many reasons."
Everyone knows about black ops and hidden agendas these days.
Hollywood churns them out on a regular basis, but then why the hell
should these unscrupulous individuals bother putting a .45 slug in
the head of a man that was going to end up in an air crash? Didn't
they think it much easier and far more credible to break his neck
instead? Doubt anyone would have noticed one more broken bone among
so many. Unless they wanted to make a public statement. (Although in
Nancy's scenario its becoming obvious that these assassin types are
not very intelligent these , their stupidity never ending as they
leave a trail of evidence for the following forensic investigations
to discover therefore adding credence to the conspiracy. Yet why did
they bother at all and just simply silence the investigation?)
Attack on America:
"Shortly after September 11, 2001, ZetaTalk stated that the Attack on
America was aided by the British, who wanted to undercut the US Stock
Market and the US government's financial position, predicting that
the World Trade Center devastation had devastated JP Morgan. This was
posted within days of the attack on the tt-watch mailing list and
sci.astro Usenet. Increasingly, over the next few months, reports of
JP Morgan's developing problems were reported."
Not one shred of proof. They'd have been better predicting the event
rather than the following conspiracy. Besides all conspiracy evidence
points to everyone other than J.P Morgan, you're the only one
spouting his connection. But then you'll probably find the black
minority, gay rights activists responsible somewhere on the net .
Australian Artifacts:
"On October 15, 1996 ZetaTalk stated that artifacts in Australia were
similar to Egyptian and Chinese pyramids, the handiword of the giant
hominoids from the 12th Planet. The May/June, 1998 issue of Science
Frontiers documents the atypical nature and age of these artifacts,
and Exposure Magazine documented the relationship to Egyptian
artifacts."
The Wandjina paintings were discovered in 1837 by the English
explorer George Grey. Hardly a revelation in 1996 and proof of
nothing extraterrestrial. Try asking the Zeta's for info before the
discovery, then you'll have a real prediction.
Bank Supports:
"In November, 1999 ZetaTalk stated that Bank Supports would be used
to prevent a market crash or public awareness of instability, as long
as possible. By September, 2000 evidence of this worldwide support
effort among central banks was reported."
Hardly stunning. Isn't that what banks do - lend money? Or is every
transaction now a conspiracy? Besides since when did Earth's finance
become such an alien obsession. Seems that's all they can go on about
these day's. Especially when considering the 12th is just around the
corner. I'd have thought that perhaps the co-ordinates were of
greater importance. But then none of it makes sense as money will
serve little use after a cataclysm, except perhaps for starting fires
or melting down the basic metals. What do the elite propose to do
after the shift eat it? Perhaps use it to pay its mercenary forces?
Seriously doubt they'd have much use for it though with nothing to
spend it on. So why the urgency to collect all these ill gotten
gains? Preparation? I doubt even these particular individuals really
believe all the money in the world will save them.
Barter System:
"In early December, 2001 ZetaTalk stated that a Barter System would
begin to replace currency, due to currency instability. By February,
2002 this was reported in Argentina."
Here we go again, more finance. Yet the banks have been talking about
replacing the monetary system for electronic currency for years. What
are credit cards if not, at its basis, a similar barter system?
Bigfoot:
"Prior to July, 1995 ZetaTalk stated that Bigfoot exists but is
quarantined from man, and is thus elusive. On December 22, 1999 Field
and Stream magazine confirmed Bigfoot's existence, and the Fortean
Times and California Sightings list have documented its elusiveness"
One of my favourites. Of course everyone has their own pet Yeti these
days. So no one gives a second thought to proving their actual
existence.
Big Bang and Black Holes:
"Prior to July, 1995, ZetaTalk stated that Big Bangs were a local
event, combined with Black Holes as a renewal agent in the Universe.
During the 2001 sci.astro debates, it was pointed out that an article
in the May, 2001 Smithsonian Magazine pointed to just that."
Destroyed by Sci-astro. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that most
will agree that there is no definitive proof that the big bang
theory, local or galactic are the true origins of the universe.
Indeed I believe there are some who would argue strongly against it.
Billy Meier:
"Prior to July, 1995 ZetaTalk stated that Billy Meier was a genuine
contactee, who took to exaggerating. On Dec 29, 1999, Billy Meier's
son stated that opinions differed even within his own family."
Billy Meier, now were really scraping the barrel. Is there anyone who
actually believes this guy?
Bin Laden:
"During the Mar 16, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session, the Zetas stated:
(NancyL) ZT: The War on Terrorism is a loss, Bin Laden not only not
dead but his network hardly damaged, as renewed activity on the
terrorists part will soon reveal.
On March 25, 2002 CNN reported a new email from Bin Laden, confirmed
to be in his writing style and considered by the intel organization
to be a living Bin Laden, condeming the most recent failure of Israel
and Palestinian negotiations. Bin Laden alive and well!"
Dead or alive? Can anyone say yet? But where is this renewed activity
the Zeta's predicted as "soon" back in March?
Blaming the Sun:
"In July, 1998 ZetaTalk stated that the Sun and Solar Flares will be
used as an Excuse for the increasingly erratic weather as the 12th
Planet approaches. On July 22, 1999, NASA stated just that."
Well guess that's been blown out of the water as the facts stated on
the site are from 1999 and as recent topics on TT have shown solar
activity is down not up. (The only one who seems interested in solar
activity appears to be Mitch Battros someone not very welcome on TT
for his attack on Nancy.) Besides since when do all mobile phones use
satellites? Aren't the majority reliant on those ugly, monstrous
radio masts, broadcasting from ground and land line systems? So how
are we going to notice any effect? Only military and isolated
locations rely on orbital systems. I think we'd need a lot more
satellites whizzing around up there to handle all the global
communication traffic.
Booms:
"On June 15, 1996 ZetaTalk stated that Booms would become more common
and occur even inland as the 12th Planet approached. By March 15,
1999 these mystery booms were being reported, followed by reports
from Ohio, Georgia, Atlanta and Alabama."
The concept isn't new although no one seems to know or at least can
prove what they are.
Brazilian Roswell:
"On July 15, 1996 ZetaTalk stated that an incident in Varginha,
Brazil was designed by the aliens who allowed the crash to occur to
be similar to the Roswell incident, to further the Awakening.
Subsequent reports coming forth from Brazil document the similarity
of the two incidents."
Science fiction, conspiracy. No proof of anything.
Cataclysm Masks:
"In January, 1998 ZetaTalk stated that the Solar Flares would be used
as a cover-up for the approaching cataclysms, and again in July, 1998
included the sun in a list of False Alarms the goverment would use.
On Dec 14, 1999 these false claims reached an extreme with a claim
that the Solar Wind had disappeared for 3 days, and later news
reports cast doubts on the sun as a culprit."
Basically a repeat of "Blaming the sun" Both Nancy and the Zeta's
like to hear their own voice.
Cattle Mutilations:
"Prior to July, 1995 ZetaTalk stated that Cattle Mutilations were
done to by human hand, but assisted by aliens - a combined team
intent on terrifying humanity about the alien presence. A historical
overview of Mutilations supports this."
More science fiction, conspiracy. No proof.
Centrifugal Force:
"On Jan 15, 1997 ZetaTalk stated that planetary or solar rotation did
not occur because of Centrifugal Force, but due to attraction and
repulsion of various components in the core. On March 31, 2000 the
Associated Press reported science findings supporting that Zeta
statement."
Another one for Sci-astro. But then I don't remember ever being
taught that centrifugal force held the planets in orbit.
China Threats:
"On the Jan 12, 2000 Sightings radio show, ZetaTalk stated that China
saber rattling was not serious, but a distraction. On Feb 22, 2000
the Washington Times confirmed no immediate plans for war."
Well even I can predict that most threats are usually done with the
intention of intimidation. Those who act without warning turn out to
be far more dangerous, yet I notice in the world of politics this
never really happens. Everyone knows well in advance what's going on,
most simply don't pay attention. I notice however the Zeta's are
lacking in the revelation type prediction area. (But then "hard to
see is dark side of the force".)
Chinese Pyramids:
"On Oct 15, 1996 ZetaTalk stated that Chinese Pyramids were built by
the same 12th Planet hominoids who erected the Giant Pyramids and
other such structures around the world. Works by Hartwig Hausdorf
confirm this."
Now Graham Hancock would love this one. He's been working on this
stuff for an awful long time and even he can't prove how the
knowledge was somehow shared so I'm damn sure he'd be hard pressed to
show how they were built by the same individuals. The styles are so
radically different in all instances. Did they not bother to
standardise back then? Surely it would have been easier for us simple
humans to prove the connection if they had?
Chupacabras:
"In May, 1996 ZetaTalk stated that the Chupacabras were akin to
Dragons and Vampires, brought to earth by aliens in the Service-to-
Self orientation to terrify humans, and that the rules of the Council
of Worlds was such that harm to a human could only occur if the human
in some way gave permission during their terror. They also stated
that South America was a Continent targeted by these aliens, and the
Chpacabras have consistently been reported in this area."
All these attacks and yet not one single specimen or photograph.
Slippery little suckers. Science fiction conspiracy.
Comet Behavior:
"In April 6, 1997 the Zetas started a debate on sci.astro wherein
they stressed repeatedly that NASA and JPL were asserting Comet
Behavior that was not correct, in essence in the Dark Ages on this
matter. They were brutally ridiculed. In June, 1999 when Comet Lee
appeared, NASA admitted their formulas were not working, and the
Zetas explained the Reversal."
The famous Sci-astro argument, where they shot her down in flames,
despite her attempts to hide her own previous statements from the TT
archives. (I notice there's no proof quoted to add any credence to
the Zeta's statement.)
Contradictory Messages:
"In February, 2000 ZetaTalk stated that Contradictory Messages given
out by the establishment would include talking about Bumper Crops to
disguise crop shortages and cutting back on foreign support. By mid-
year 2000, reports reflected this."
Ah, crop shortages. That's why we're all dieting on worms this week?
Last time I looked the stores seemed full of produce. Let's see 2002
was supposed to be the time when all the shops would be empty, wasn't
it?
(Remember these are touted as 100% accurate. A Zeta victory used by
Nancy at every opportunity.)
End of part one, 25 down 75 to go.
Brian (Angel Isle)